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the Gulf of America, what an

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that that is our president. What

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is this year? What is going on? I

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That's pretty much all the updates

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I have for you right now.

2:58

Feeling pretty tired and a little

3:00

seasick, which is awesome. I also,

3:02

I don't know when I introduced

3:04

Tefi in this episode because we

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just start going. It might be

3:08

like 15 minutes in. You might

3:10

recognize Tefi from social media. She's

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across all platforms making content all

3:14

the time. She is awesome. I'm

3:16

obsessed with her. This was such

3:18

a fun episode to record. And

3:21

we literally met like one second

3:23

before we started filming. So, uh,

3:25

We just jump right

3:27

in and we kind

3:29

of are all over

3:31

the place but I

3:34

think it's such a

3:36

fun episode I

3:38

hope you guys enjoy

3:40

it and yeah all

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her socials will be

3:45

below like always

3:48

enjoy this episode

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pray for me on

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this book Because I get into that

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in a fucking needle and put it

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in my arm. I love that I

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know also the The algorithm right now

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is too reactive. If you like

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one video, you get like seven.

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Back to back to back. Like,

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that's what I like. Guck crazier.

4:10

But what are you watching? Sorry.

4:12

Howie the crab? No idea.

4:14

Well, crabs are sentient. Worsings

4:16

ever happen to me. Oh God. Just

4:19

like elephants. Yeah, they have

4:21

communities. They have, they experience

4:23

grief and joy. No. No, no,

4:26

no. So they make amazing pets.

4:28

And Howie the crab, it's a

4:30

girl. live much longer. She loves

4:32

hats, she loves costumes, they make

4:34

a noise when they're happy, it's

4:36

like... Stop it. No, no, no.

4:38

Are you vegetarian? No. My favorite

4:40

animal are cows, I have a

4:42

cow tattooed on me. It's a

4:44

favorite, it's a cow, and it's

4:46

a cow, and my favorite food

4:48

is steak. Everything is complicated, nothing

4:50

can be easy for me. Yeah,

4:52

that's tough. And then I'm also

4:54

on Pigeon Talk, the history of

4:57

Pige. I mean we train them and then

4:59

we abandon them right? They don't know how

5:01

to live without us and they keep waiting

5:03

for us to take them back so they

5:05

won't leave cities. Okay I'll cry. This

5:07

is my thing. This is your for you page.

5:10

This is my free page and then also

5:12

like decline super bad for cats.

5:14

Yeah. I'm on vet tic-tac-tac. It

5:16

sounds like you should be vegetarian.

5:19

Well, I'm Latin. I'm Latin. My

5:21

mom, it's like very much like

5:23

my big fat Greek wedding. Like

5:26

I'm vegetarian. It's okay. I make

5:28

lamb. Like that's like kind of.

5:30

But when I was vegetarian for

5:33

nine years and then I was

5:35

vegan sober. I was vegan

5:37

when I was sober. Okay. For

5:39

like a few years. The moment

5:42

I got drunk. I was like,

5:44

whatever. Yeah. So then. My mom

5:46

is like traumatized because she's like,

5:48

I've never seen a girl eat

5:51

that much lean cuisine. I can't

5:53

cook. Oh God. So, that's

5:55

okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Do you

5:57

order in like a lot of food?

5:59

In New York, it's so easy. It's

6:02

so easy. And yeah, what I'm in

6:04

LA, all I do is eat that

6:06

goop kitchen, chicken, is that, um... Gweneth?

6:08

Yep. You couldn't find her

6:10

name. We're so different. We're so

6:12

different. I was gonna say Nicole

6:15

Kidman. I'm like, no, no,

6:17

no, that's baby girl. That's

6:19

my favorite interview of all time.

6:21

Which one? With what? Her by yourself?

6:23

No, I interviewed her. You did it? Yes.

6:26

You did it? I'm the one who did

6:28

it. On a carpet? On a carpet I

6:30

did. My favorite interviews I've ever done are

6:32

Melissa McCarthy and Nicole Kidman, and they were

6:34

on the same night. Oh my God, for

6:37

what? What was it? In style awards. Cool.

6:39

And Nicole Kidman. It's somewhere on

6:41

my Tik Talk. It's a... Yeah, by the

6:43

way, you have like the biggest

6:45

digital footprint of anyone I've ever

6:47

had on my podcast. Me? Yes.

6:49

Usually people, I'm like, oh, watch

6:51

a few of their stuff. Like,

6:54

I watch you, I've been following

6:56

you for years and years and

6:58

years. So I was like, I

7:00

already know, or I don't

7:02

have to like do much. But

7:04

I wanted to see like you

7:06

on podcasts and stuff. I do

7:08

love a combo. Yeah, it's impressive.

7:11

It's like truly impressive. Anyway, somewhere

7:13

on that profile. Because we're on

7:15

that profile. I took Tukt so

7:17

much though, everything. And then I just

7:19

hired Sidebar. I just hired, you know

7:21

who Remy Bader is? Yep. So Nikki

7:24

Bader is her sister. Okay. And she's

7:26

based in Miami. And she just came

7:28

out with Second Home Social. It's her

7:31

new company. And she has like a

7:33

few influences. repurpose all of your content

7:35

to YouTube and Snapchat for you and

7:38

link all of your outfits so she

7:40

started doing that so like I want

7:42

to see where my digital yeah you're

7:45

everywhere you're everywhere there's no hiding from

7:47

you now it's great my mom went in

7:49

the beginning of this she's like a normal person

7:51

she works in an office and she says uh

7:53

then in the beginning people would walk

7:56

into her office and they're

7:58

like are you Tefy's mom

8:00

and she'd be like what

8:03

did she Like you are,

8:05

I smoke, I... I

8:08

snuck out of the

8:10

house once and you

8:12

caught me within 30

8:15

minutes. Like I did

8:17

not do anything. No,

8:19

you were a nightmare.

8:21

But I was a

8:24

nightmare. But I do

8:26

get to interview people

8:28

that she's like, no, and what

8:31

where they like, you know, like Nicole Kidman.

8:33

But that was also the craziest,

8:35

like, the most protective publicist I've

8:38

ever encountered too. Where, but

8:40

I understand why now. Yeah. It

8:42

was right after it was 2021.

8:44

It was like November, December, December,

8:46

December 2021. Okay. And. It's a crazy

8:48

time. I think that's a kind of when

8:50

the world was like finally back to normal.

8:52

Yeah, kind of, but you had to

8:54

get like double tested for the yeah,

8:56

for the COVID, for the corona like

8:58

going to like an event. You remember

9:00

going to an event and they would

9:02

test you at the event site and

9:04

you're like, this is going to be

9:07

humiliating. Yes. Yes. Literally. I like during

9:09

that time period is the first time

9:11

I ever got to work with Ariana

9:13

Grande and I'm like. Can you imagine? Surely

9:15

I have COVID. Like I'm sure it just

9:17

do. Like the universe is going to take

9:19

this away for me for sure and then

9:22

this like huge jacked guy because it's her

9:24

security guard doing it and he's like waiting

9:26

for it to test. I'm like, oh my

9:28

god, please, please, just let me in. Just

9:31

let me in. Have I? Like the old

9:33

one? Yeah, isn't it's like, is that

9:35

the one where they're like, how do

9:37

you like your men? like you like

9:39

my coffee or whatever the little girl

9:41

I think so yeah it's like slapstick

9:43

it's like well he goes surely there

9:45

must be another and he's like who's

9:47

Shirley that's like my favorite every time

9:49

somebody says Shirley but Nicole Kid when

9:51

she was like very um giddy mmm

9:53

and everybody around her was like

9:55

masked up obviously we were all

9:57

messed up except for me when

9:59

somebody wasn't. Yeah, exactly.

10:01

She was like, Giddy

10:03

and she's like, so she

10:06

saw me from across the

10:08

red carpet and she

10:10

goes, this to me. And I'm

10:13

like, this. Me? And I'm

10:15

like, Shirley. Shirley. Shirley. And

10:17

every time she like passes

10:19

a camera, you know, she's

10:22

like. It's cold. It's cold

10:24

in here. And then the

10:26

camera guy is like, is

10:28

Nicole Kidman floating with you?

10:30

I'm like, don't fucking move.

10:32

Whatever's going on, whatever stars

10:34

have aligned on me at

10:36

this moment, nobody fucking moved.

10:38

Yeah, don't ruin this for me.

10:40

She's like, are you cold? From

10:42

like, but she's still like five

10:45

cameras away. And I'm like, I'm

10:47

not cold. She's like. Whatever.

10:49

I'm taking off her jacket. She

10:51

looks at me and she goes,

10:53

no, I'm going to put it

10:55

back on. I'm like, she has

10:58

to think that she knows me.

11:00

Like, she has to think that

11:02

she like, like, I look like

11:04

someone. Yeah. She comes up and

11:06

she goes, hi, I'm Nicole. I'm

11:08

like, you, kiss me. And then,

11:10

I'm like, when do you feel

11:13

the most in style? I came

11:15

up with that. And she's like,

11:17

when I wear. My pajamas.

11:19

When I wear my pajamas. I'm at

11:21

home with my kids, and then she

11:23

looks at me and she's like, but

11:25

I never wear the bottoms. I don't

11:28

even know if she was learning. I

11:30

think that she was just like, there

11:32

are some people in the world that

11:34

are so famous. I don't think

11:36

she understands how famous she is.

11:38

Yeah, I mean, it's probably better

11:40

not to. Right. And like her

11:43

her assistant is actually someone who

11:45

like... Who's married to a college

11:47

friend of mine weirdly there's a connection?

11:49

Yeah, and he was like no she

11:51

is like that like she's just like

11:53

a joy And she's like sometimes I

11:55

walk around the house without my pants

11:57

on or something and the publicist is

11:59

like Like, please, Nicole. Like, they're like,

12:01

please rain it in. Please. And

12:03

I also, I think that might

12:06

have been like the first time

12:08

she went out. So she was like

12:10

having an alcohol with her friends

12:12

like since COVID. Yeah. But that is

12:14

easily like me giggling when Nicole

12:16

Kidman like and doing the exes

12:18

and those podcast. Thank you so

12:21

much. I was waiting for my

12:23

recognition. Thank you. That's awesome. Wait,

12:25

what was Melissa McCarthy like? I

12:27

look at that tick-tock of us

12:29

all the time. I'm not going

12:31

to get it. Basically in the

12:34

middle of it. I don't know

12:36

why. Sorry. I don't know why

12:38

I started dancing. And she

12:40

started dancing with me. And

12:42

she was like, and I was like,

12:44

you go in the front, she's

12:47

like, no, I'm backing you up. She's

12:49

just so cute. Fucking funny. When

12:51

Sandra Bullock goes to the bar

12:53

with her, and the morning they

12:56

wake up, he's like, no. Your

12:58

first boyfriend, Walt! She's like,

13:00

you guys were electric! It's

13:02

like, or the albino, she's

13:04

like, she's the albino man,

13:06

she's like, is your wife a five

13:08

pound bag of flour with a hole in

13:10

it? I feel like I need to watch

13:12

this again so I could be in

13:14

on this with you and remember it

13:16

The only thing recently with a drew

13:18

a follow in LA fun. That's why

13:20

I only remember like the window blankets

13:22

about the curtains She's like okay. Sorry.

13:24

I don't have window blankets like Because

13:27

because it's under bullet has curtains. It's

13:29

one of those movies that I would

13:31

watch on a plane and not pay

13:33

attention to but because Drew loves that

13:35

movie if I I could feel her

13:37

watching me watch the movie And that's

13:39

a good thing when the movie is

13:41

good, but when the movie is bad

13:43

and the pressure is there, you're

13:45

like, do I have to? I

13:47

know. Like my brother making me

13:49

watch Wild Hogs? I'm like, like,

13:51

that's not gonna land with everyone.

13:53

That's like me watching Saltburn

13:55

with my dad. Why did you? I didn't

13:58

know. I didn't know. I didn't know. anything.

14:00

Someone was like, you have to watch it

14:02

every picture. Yeah, I mean, every scene is

14:04

like, um, it's like a picture. I was

14:06

like, okay. Yeah, like my dad was there

14:08

and then like halfway to the meeting, he's

14:11

like, what the fuck is this? Like, but

14:13

he watched the whole thing. So he's like,

14:15

oh, I love a bath. He's like, he

14:17

was like in and out of sleeping. And

14:19

then at one point, he just walked woke

14:21

up and he's like, woke up and he's

14:24

like, woke up and he's like, woke up

14:26

and he's like, he just walk, woke up

14:28

and he's like, woke up and he's like,

14:30

woke up and he's like, he's like, he

14:32

just walk, he just walk, he just walk,

14:34

he just walk, woke up, he just walk,

14:37

woke up, woke up, woke up, woke up,

14:39

he's like, he just walk, he just walk,

14:41

he just walk, he just walk, he just

14:43

walk, he just I'm trying to figure, I

14:45

think everyone's trying to figure that out. We're

14:47

not sure. Barry. That's amazing. One of my

14:49

close friends, Jeff, I don't know why I'm

14:52

using your name, G, but G-off, G-E-O-F-F. The

14:54

only way to spell Jeff. His sibling came

14:56

out to their mom. And then right after,

14:58

Jeff was like, you know what we should

15:00

do as a family, is go watched, blue,

15:02

is a warmest color. And that day, I

15:05

think he's never been the same. No, did

15:07

they actually do it? Yes. No, no, no,

15:09

no. No. And I was like, oh, that's

15:11

that French movie. He's like, Tevi, do me

15:13

a favor and watch that movie tonight. And

15:15

I watched it and I called it back

15:18

and I was like, that was like watching

15:20

a war movie and your friend is a

15:22

veteran. Yeah, it like triggering and very, like

15:24

that movie is a lot of. Hard for

15:26

me to get true. Yeah, I'm sorry. When

15:28

they were like, and we used prosthetics, I'm

15:30

like, I've seen a pussy. No, also, yeah,

15:33

there's like so much weird shit about that

15:35

movie, but I don't know anyone who's sizzering

15:37

that much, like for that long. Like, I'm

15:39

not a sizzering. Some people don't think it's

15:41

real. No, they were trying to start a

15:43

fire. What the hell was that? Don't kick

15:46

off. The amount of friction in that room

15:48

was crazy. There's no way they could keep

15:50

a prosthetic on with that much movement. It

15:52

had to be super glued. There is no

15:54

way you couldn't feel anything through that prosthetic.

15:56

Give me a fucking

15:59

break. Yeah, and also

16:01

the director was a

16:03

creep, which is unfortunate.

16:06

Wait, a guy in Hollywood? No way.

16:08

What the fuck are you talking

16:10

about? That's crazy. Surely. Surely. No, he's

16:12

also like a French director, so

16:14

it's like you're not safe anywhere. Yeah,

16:16

yeah, yeah. And it's that famous

16:18

photo of what's her name, the blonde

16:20

girl with the tear. The

16:23

blonde one or the? Not Adele. Adele

16:26

with the long Greek name. Yeah, yeah,

16:28

yeah. The blue haired girl? The blue

16:30

haired girl, there we go. Yeah, that's

16:32

like, is she blonde? Doesn't she have

16:34

blue hair? Because blue is the warmest.

16:36

I understand. Yep. Oh, that's, now it's

16:38

coming. And then that girl also is

16:40

in Bond. She's a Bond girl.

16:42

Yes, she is. She is. know some pop

16:44

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16:46

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16:48

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18:55

I didn't even do an intro,

18:57

I could do it. Hey, so,

18:59

hey, hi. Okay, we're already talking

19:01

about scissoring. Let's

19:04

get into it, okay. Okay, hi guys, my

19:06

name's Shannon Beverage. Welcome back to Xs and

19:08

Ls, a podcast where we talk about queer

19:10

relationships and sex. And my guest today, I

19:12

cannot believe that you're here. I feel like

19:14

I asked you to come on my podcast

19:16

like a year ago. And I'm so glad

19:18

that you said yes and that we finally

19:20

made it happen. But you might recognize her

19:22

from TikTok or the internet or red carpets.

19:24

Where else could they see you anywhere?

19:26

You're everywhere, Snapchat now. Definitely not

19:28

the supermarket. Not in real life,

19:30

not anywhere where you would have to

19:33

make food anyway. It's tough. Maybe

19:35

your local Benihana, I do think

19:37

Benihana is the best fine dining experience

19:39

ever, yes. And you know who

19:41

Benihana who started it? It's

19:43

Steve Ioki's father.

19:45

Crazy. Brother to Devon Ioki.

19:48

Who's that? What are you

19:50

talking about? Should I know who that is? Devon

19:52

Ioki, Fast and the Furious. She's so hot. Oh

19:54

my God, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she was in

19:56

the lesbian movie too, Debs. What

19:58

are you talking? about. I didn't know

20:01

that they were related. I know and

20:03

I follow her on social media and she

20:05

is just living the life that like

20:07

everybody wants to live. What a crazy family.

20:09

What a crazy family. I would love

20:11

to go to the Benihana corporate

20:14

Christmas party. But they don't like

20:16

have a relationship. Have you seen the

20:18

documentary? Wait, Steve, I don't have a relationship with

20:20

my dad either. We have so much to talk

20:22

about. Are you trying to date Stevie, Oki, from

20:24

my podcast? I don't think this is the right

20:26

place. No, no, no. I want to go to

20:28

Benny Hana's with Steve Iok. Okay, okay. Yeah, that's

20:30

what I want. We can make that happen. That's

20:32

what I want. I think he's married. Oh, who

20:34

isn't. Who isn't? I'm like, I'm like, me, me,

20:36

me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,

20:38

me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,

20:41

me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,

20:43

me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me,

20:45

Is Tefy Straight? Because I don't have anyone

20:47

straight on my podcast, but then I

20:49

was like, is Tefy Straight or do I just

20:51

think everyone's gay? And then I was

20:53

like, I'm just gonna look into it.

20:55

I'm sure I can find something. And

20:58

then you went on Gabby Wendy's podcast

21:00

and you guys kind of talked about

21:02

being pansexual, but then you don't like

21:05

the word. I like to say my

21:07

organizational style, my interior design, my interior

21:09

design, and my sexuality is. bohemian in

21:11

nature. Okay. Both. Both. I'm more of

21:14

a bohemia. Like I tell people my

21:16

type is whoever likes me. Yeah. Who

21:18

am I to deny you? That actually

21:21

is a great explanation. You know to

21:23

explain also like pansexuality. It's so

21:25

pansexual like I'm missing a nail

21:27

so every time. Look at that.

21:30

Look at the screen. How. But

21:32

it's like subtle. Is it? I

21:34

feel like the pinky is the best option.

21:36

Go back to me. Can you go back?

21:38

Go back to me. I think, um, I

21:40

think when it comes to sexuality, I don't

21:43

know why. I just, I know why. When

21:45

I was young, so my sister was with

21:47

a woman for a very long time and

21:49

I'm, I was a big fan of her.

21:52

And now if I was in a Durango

21:54

going 70 miles per hour, I would be

21:56

going towards her. But that's fine. And if

21:58

I got my license. Oh shit. I

22:00

know. Well, it was, you don't need

22:03

it. It was 2020. I was in

22:05

quarantine. My license expired. I'm not going

22:07

to the DMV. Yeah. Oh, you had

22:09

a license at one point. I did.

22:12

Yeah, in Miami, like you have to

22:14

drive around. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nobody was

22:16

like super sad. I couldn't drive anymore.

22:18

You were in breaking hearts with that.

22:21

So my sister, I remember when I

22:23

was, I had already moved away, I

22:25

must have been like 22, and she

22:28

picked me up from the airport, and

22:30

my sister's, like, she grew up as

22:32

a tomboy, she loves animals, she loved

22:34

being outside, motorcycles, she went through a

22:37

big wolf phase, I think she's still

22:39

in her dragon phase. Okay, she's still

22:41

in her dragon phase, like, she's like,

22:43

like, loves the doors. Okay. And I

22:46

know why, it's because Morrison, what's his

22:48

name, what's his name? James Morrison, does

22:50

that sound right? I was saying Jimmy,

22:53

I don't know. James, Jimmy, Morrison, you

22:55

know. I could make a beautiful woman.

22:57

Yeah, and you know it. Oh yeah,

22:59

he's gorgeous. So I remember, she picked

23:02

me up and she was like, I'm

23:04

in love with a girl. And I

23:06

said, water is wet or something. Yeah.

23:08

And we laughed about it. And then

23:11

she was with this person for like

23:13

seven, eight years or something. And then

23:15

I remember somebody asking me. Was it

23:17

ever a big deal in your family?

23:20

And I'm like, no, I think, like,

23:22

Laura technically didn't have to come out.

23:24

Like, my mom was like, oh my

23:27

God, amazing. All of you guys are

23:29

so weird. I'm so glad one of

23:31

you is in a relationship. It's amazing.

23:33

Wait, what is she like? And that

23:36

was it. Yeah. Because there's so much

23:38

Catholicism, right? And like. It's funny if

23:40

you have a gay cousin, who's a

23:42

guy. I was going to say, if

23:45

gay men are kind of in, because

23:47

like Miami too, it's like, there's a

23:49

lot of gay guys down there, like,

23:52

they're running the nightclubs. So you kind

23:54

of have no choice but to be

23:56

accepting of the gay men. Miami, I

23:58

grew up in. is not the Miami

24:01

people know today. Shit. I don't think

24:03

I know Miami by the way. You

24:05

don't? No. Well if you and I

24:07

went we never come back we'd have

24:09

to we'd have to do rent at

24:11

11. I have too much fun in

24:14

Miami. Every time I every time

24:16

those airplane wheels hit the ground

24:18

I go okay we can do

24:20

this. It's like sounds like Las

24:22

Vegas. Please. It is Las Vegas

24:24

by the ocean but I'm there.

24:26

Yeah. We're talking like, my dad in a

24:28

speedo rollerblades. And my dad is not

24:31

a gay man. He's just Brazilian. It's

24:33

just Brazilian. Often confused. You know, just

24:35

Brazilian. But very lively, like, come on,

24:37

come on chicky baby, that's too that

24:39

kongat, like all that. And now it's

24:42

just like New Yorkers and like magga,

24:44

which is fucking crazy to me. Because

24:46

the Miami I know is like, you

24:48

walk down the street, you know, somebody

24:50

has a basket full of mango, so

24:53

like, do you want one? You're like,

24:55

oh my God, of course, you have

24:57

mango all over your teeth. And then

24:59

you go to. Oh my god, I

25:01

can't believe like your ex is like

25:04

cheating on you. I can't believe

25:06

a 16 year old boy in

25:08

Miami would cheat on you. You

25:10

know, like and you're eating like

25:12

you're drinking Cuban coffee with like

25:14

your classmates. It's just like a

25:16

different and now I go back

25:18

and I'm like, it's completely

25:21

different. So the Miami that I

25:23

grew up in like, yeah, I remember

25:25

like, when Rosie O'Donnell bought a house.

25:27

Oh my gosh. And I met her

25:29

the other day. Do you follow her

25:31

on Instagram? Because she has an obsession

25:33

with squirrels that I need to understand.

25:36

I'm on squirrel tick-talk. She is just

25:38

posting her squirrel that's in her back.

25:40

Is she a squirrel? I think it's

25:42

just her backyard squirrel. She grid posts

25:44

the squirrel quite frequently. Sometimes with

25:46

no caption, it's just the squirrel.

25:48

And I'm like, really? She's putting

25:50

her, of course she's posting her,

25:52

of course she's posting her, squirrel

25:55

sounds bad. Of course. Yes, exactly.

25:57

It's like a beaver is big

25:59

squirrel. landing trip. No.

26:02

No? No, I made that up. Okay, that

26:04

was actually really good. Yeah, I put

26:06

that in Urban Dictionary. Yeah. Me all day

26:09

on TikTok, I'm on Urban Dictionary. Dictionary

26:11

on. Dictionary. Right. She's got a burr for

26:13

spurt. But

26:15

I, so Miami, I think

26:17

with Latin people, growing up gay

26:19

guys were cool, but like

26:21

being a Latin girl and being

26:23

gay, it was like, it

26:27

was, if you take something away from men, they're

26:29

not gonna like it. When you tell me about

26:31

it. So like,

26:33

I think that was kind of the deal,

26:35

you know? And then I was also on the

26:37

car ride over here. A

26:40

movie, the first movie that

26:42

I ever saw where gay

26:44

people, like people, where I

26:46

was like, oh, women fuck

26:48

each other. Was

26:50

at the end of love actually. What

26:53

happens when they have a threesome

26:55

with the, yeah. With the Scottish guy?

26:57

I think it's Denise Richards. Oh

26:59

my God. The hottest women ever. Hotest

27:01

women ever. Hotest women ever. And

27:03

a girl from Girl Next Door too.

27:05

I've always had a crush on.

27:07

Gotcha. That movie, I can't believe you

27:09

said that movie. That movie, I

27:11

watch like once a season. It's a

27:13

great film. And that's gay of

27:15

you because she's so hot in that.

27:18

Also like the bag on the

27:20

head gets me every time. At the

27:22

end, when they're filming the panel.

27:24

Oh my God. And he's got the

27:26

huge cock. Yeah. Huge. I call

27:28

it an American hammer. But he's also

27:30

in Batman. Yeah. And I'm like,

27:32

where's the Joker, right? Or no, is

27:34

he the Joker? He's a bad

27:36

guy. Yeah, I think he is the

27:38

Joker. But there's so many Batman's

27:40

and so many Jokers. Okay, Shannon, let

27:43

me tell you something. Do you

27:45

know them all? No, I have sex.

27:47

No, but I have to say,

27:49

every, there's this one journalist, I can't,

27:51

I don't remember his name, but

27:53

I think he works for Vice. And

27:55

every time there's a new Marvel

27:57

movie, there's a theater in New York

27:59

that starts from the first Marvel

28:01

movie. And it does the whole universe. And I think it takes like

28:03

something like 78 hours. And the guy like, no, can

28:05

you, and he does it every year. And

28:08

every time there's a new announcement for a

28:10

Marvel movie, I'm like, this is the worst

28:12

day of his life. Like every single time.

28:14

He has to do it again. Like I

28:17

remember, oh my God. I remember specifically reading

28:19

like, okay, we just got to Ant Man

28:21

One. And I'm like, I would be. That's

28:24

insane. There's so many. There's so many. There's

28:26

so many. And then. And then. And

28:28

then. And then. Love that. Love that.

28:30

Love Marvel. Speaking of lesbians.

28:32

I love to. The L word.

28:34

Yes. Romy. Yes. Married. I can't

28:36

believe. Angelina Jolie's brother. Just in

28:39

case y'all didn't see. Yeah. And

28:41

I was like, that's the key

28:43

to being around Angelina Jolie. You

28:45

just have to wait a little bit.

28:48

Yeah. And hang around people who are.

28:50

I'm always trying to figure out how

28:52

to get close to Angelina Jolie. Is

28:55

she dating a woman I need to

28:57

know. Well, she did for a very

28:59

very long time. Yeah, but there's rumor

29:01

she is now who the weekend Some

29:03

like blonde lady who was on a

29:06

red carpet with her free zone Are

29:08

you gonna stitch on me? Oh, thank

29:10

you Thank you. You thought I was

29:12

gonna like bring out a laptop. Yeah.

29:15

I was like please let's do the

29:17

work But of dating a woman, some

29:19

blonde lady. Some blonde lady that did.

29:22

Always you fucking blondes. Yeah, damn it.

29:24

I mean taking Angelina, Jolie away from

29:26

me is what I mean. Yes, of

29:29

course. Of course. Shannon. Of course, of

29:31

course, Stephanie. Have you ever had any?

29:33

No, you had orange hair though. I

29:35

was a blonde for a little bit,

29:38

but my mom said I look like

29:40

mystique like on my skin. So that

29:42

was mean. Got it. I've been almost

29:45

every color. That's nice. I've done

29:47

this one. Just the brown? Just

29:49

the brown. You have virgin hair?

29:51

Yeah. Now, well, no. Also, because

29:53

I get a Brazilian blowout. Do

29:55

you know about those? Yes, I'm Brazilian.

29:58

Yeah, well, you got to be.

30:00

careful because a Brazilian it means two

30:02

things. Yeah when you said Brazilian I

30:04

was like okay it's a pub joke

30:06

yeah and I was gonna say my

30:08

favorite pub joke exactly what is your

30:10

favorite pub joke then I'm part Portuguese

30:13

so it's not a Bermuda short it's

30:15

just me my laser leader was like

30:17

it's gonna take at least 16 sessions

30:19

I'm like the website said eight oh

30:21

my god it hurt Shannon,

30:23

I was screaming uncle. That is

30:26

insane. And then I see on

30:28

TikTok, and it's expensive. Also, it

30:30

did not work. You're looking at

30:32

Bush Queen. Not it not working.

30:35

No, I'm, what is Mad Damon

30:37

and Contagion? I'm. What's it called?

30:39

Immune. I'm immune. You're immune to

30:41

lasers. Yeah. So, Matt David, I'm

30:43

so sorry. How he got dragged

30:46

into that. We don't know. I

30:48

never thought I would talk about

30:50

my bikini laser treatment and Matt

30:52

David. At the same time. And

30:54

who's in contagion. Gweneth Paltrow. Oh,

30:57

and we made it back to

30:59

the beginning. Everyone's related somehow. What

31:01

is it like the Kevin Bacon

31:03

thing? Six degrees of Kevin Bacon.

31:06

So in my house it was

31:08

Tom Cruise. Really? I have a

31:10

story about Tom Cruise. Okay. Wait,

31:12

what were we talking about? Pubes?

31:14

Oh, Brazilian blood, virgin hair. Yeah,

31:17

but then before that, we were

31:19

talking about your, if you use

31:21

that clip of me screaming pubes.

31:23

Pubes? Pubes! Yeah, that's going in

31:25

the breakdown. Have you ever had

31:28

like internet controversy? Shannon. Have you

31:30

every fucking day really but like

31:32

really like a like where people

31:34

blow up like things like that?

31:37

Yeah No, because I have rules

31:39

about the internet. Okay. So one

31:41

is I never Go into specific

31:43

detail Mm-hmm meaning that doesn't mean

31:45

that I'm not like a like

31:48

I'll share about my life like

31:50

people are like you're so vulnerable

31:52

online and I'm like that's crazy

31:54

you say that because for example

31:57

And I always

31:59

use this example,

32:01

like I could tell somebody

32:03

like I'm the first my grandparents passed away

32:05

and I miss them every day. I can't

32:07

believe I can't call them like something good

32:09

happens and they were so worried about me

32:11

for so long and now I'm fine and

32:13

I can't like share this with them. Anyone

32:17

who has experienced grief knows exactly what I talk

32:19

about, but I don't you didn't know how old

32:21

they were. Yeah. You know what I mean? So

32:23

like when I talk about I feel like I

32:25

have I feel like with the

32:27

internet most of this drama

32:29

comes from letting people to enter

32:31

their narrative to the point that

32:33

it becomes theirs and I fucking refuse.

32:35

So fair. I don't apparently because

32:37

because if I give you generality, not

32:39

generality, but if I don't give

32:41

you like if I don't break it

32:43

down for you, it's not just

32:45

about me. It's about us. Yeah. And

32:47

I want my platform to always

32:49

be conversational. I don't want it to

32:52

be a presentation or like a

32:54

monologue. And also I hate people telling

32:56

me who the fuck I am.

32:58

I barely know who the fuck I

33:00

am. So you're gonna fucking tell

33:02

me. Yeah, it's terrible. Some bitch in

33:04

Oklahoma at home with her Yorkies

33:06

is gonna fucking tell me about the

33:08

problem with you is where do

33:10

you live? Come outside. No, literally. I'm

33:12

like, are you guys all therapists?

33:14

Yeah, but lesbians are so like that's

33:16

another thing. My my friends, they're

33:18

always like, Tuffy, if you ever need

33:20

to find something out, go on lesbian tiktok,

33:22

they know every detail down to the rising

33:24

sign. No, they literally know everything. They knew

33:26

I was dating my ex -girlfriend before we

33:28

had ever met, which we so

33:30

we weren't dating. They were like, I think that

33:33

Shannon's going to date this girl because we followed

33:35

each other on Instagram. And

33:37

then we did date. They know you better

33:39

than you know yourself. I hope not because

33:41

they think some terrible things about me. I

33:43

will say, so my best friend Flora, she's

33:45

married to HK and they've been together. It's

33:47

like her first real, what

33:51

is WLW? Woman -loving -woman I can't

33:53

say that. Woman -loving -woman relationship. It's

33:57

her first gay relationship

33:59

and they just got married.

34:01

and HK loves you. Oh no way! Loves you!

34:03

So I was like, oh wait, HK, like I

34:05

have this podcast today, and she's like, holy

34:07

fucking. Do you have a Tumblr?

34:09

Oh yeah, that's what it is.

34:12

I've been, see, I feel like

34:14

your analogy to the internet too,

34:16

it's kind of like songwriters, when

34:18

they write lyrics that are not

34:20

very specific, so everyone can hear

34:22

them and attribute it to their

34:24

own life. massive hit. Yes. For

34:26

said reason. And that's kind of

34:29

how you're like operating your online

34:31

presence, which for me, I never

34:33

even had the idea or the thought

34:35

or like the wherewithal to protect

34:37

myself in that way because of

34:39

how I started online. Like because

34:41

it started with like, here is the

34:44

letter I wrote to my dad coming

34:46

out to him. It's like very vulnerable.

34:48

And you can't take that back. No,

34:50

so that's still out there. You could

34:52

definitely find it. 19. Okay, a baby,

34:55

a cherub. Yeah, and this is

34:57

the year of like the internet

34:59

was not the internet. Yeah, for

35:02

ever. So the first time I

35:04

ever found you was because of

35:06

that song. Because of that song.

35:08

What song? The one about very specifically.

35:11

Rebecca. Very specific lyrics. Yeah, she doesn't

35:13

write songs like you do your social

35:15

media. No, no, no. My song would

35:18

be like, I woke up today. Literally.

35:20

No. I do, I, okay, another rule

35:22

is I don't talk about anything. Okay.

35:24

Until I've already figured it out. Okay.

35:27

Until I've already figured it out. So,

35:29

so people aren't helping me figure it

35:31

out. Fair. So like I was I

35:34

was engaged and that to me

35:36

a while ago we broke up

35:38

three and a half fucking years

35:40

ago and I'm still like unpacking

35:42

that because I'm a cancer. God

35:45

forbid I let go. And I'm

35:47

still unpacking that. I'm still like

35:49

coming to like putting things

35:51

like wait, he didn't go to

35:54

the party that night. Like that's

35:56

like so to this day. So

35:58

I don't talk about it. learned a

36:00

lot of things from that break up.

36:02

Like, when I knew it wasn't gonna

36:04

work out, should have been it, rather,

36:06

will people make things work? Like, I'll

36:08

talk about that stuff. But I won't

36:10

talk about, you know, like, things that

36:12

are other people's stories too. Like my

36:14

sister with her experiences, or even like

36:16

my brother, or like, we don't talk

36:19

to our dad, right? So like, I'm

36:21

not gonna say like, well, for Laura,

36:23

like, you know, and stuff like that

36:25

kind of stuff. Yeah, you like keep

36:27

a little bit of a wall between

36:29

you. And yeah, I don't want to

36:31

say anybody else's story. I work in

36:33

pop culture. Yeah. I'm like, I think

36:35

you just did like a four part

36:37

series on someone else's story, but yeah.

36:39

Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Okay,

36:41

speaking of those, can you please do

36:43

gay ones? I really want you to

36:45

do Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor. Yeah,

36:47

I do too. It's like, the thing

36:50

is, it's so much easier to do

36:52

Y2K couples because they've talked about it

36:54

now, we have the truth versus these

36:56

like horrible tabloid lies because if you

36:58

look up Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor,

37:00

she's sorry, I'm so sorry. Did I

37:02

get it right? Yes. Taylor, they're super,

37:04

super fucking private. Yeah, and they're also

37:06

still together. And they're still together and

37:08

they also live in separate houses. Like,

37:10

there's not a lot. Yeah, I know.

37:12

They're boss. So the thing with Y2K

37:14

couples is name one gay one. That's

37:16

like, oh, that's why people are like,

37:18

can you do black couples? I'm like,

37:21

the most iconic couples like were not,

37:23

they were white blonde skinny bitches. You

37:25

know, all of them, tender bullock, we

37:27

love you. But like, I guess I

37:29

could do, like, if I think of,

37:31

you know, I mean, I did Whitney

37:33

Houston. That's another thing though, Shannon. Okay,

37:35

like people are like, can you do,

37:37

like I have an Aretha Franklin packet

37:39

waiting. I've had it for a year.

37:41

Okay. When

37:43

you're doing, like I

37:46

did a share packet,

37:48

shares 70 something. Yeah.

37:50

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37:52

packet. She's 80 fucking

37:54

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37:56

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37:58

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38:00

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40:11

do 30. I have so many packets. What

40:13

do you, when, do you sleep? No, no,

40:15

no, no, I don't. I don't, I don't.

40:17

I don't. I take a, I take a,

40:19

I take a, I take a, I take

40:21

a trazidone. I take a trazidone, I take

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40:29

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40:31

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40:33

and the reason I love doing them is

40:36

because you don't understand the questions that I

40:38

get. I got questions like, wait, what's a

40:40

spice girl? Like you don't understand, like I

40:42

get, I, the other day, the other day,

40:44

I was talking to somebody and they're like,

40:46

wait, Brittany Spears danced? Stop. Brittany Spears. Savannah

40:48

slow down. There's entertainers and there's singers. You're

40:50

talking about one of the best entertainers in

40:52

the fucking world. Okay? Yeah. And, but the

40:54

packets, they take me, like, so in the

40:56

beginning, I would hand, I only write things

40:58

down because I'm ancient. And so I'd have.

41:01

You're not even, you're literally not old at

41:03

all. But you talk about that all. I'm

41:05

like, stop. Because you're giving people like me

41:07

a bad name too. I'm like, I'm like,

41:09

we're young. I know, but then I'm like,

41:11

I look at my bow talks, I'm like,

41:13

you don't look at day over 33, you

41:15

fucking beautiful bitch. You know, but when, but

41:17

people online, like, you have to remember, like,

41:19

there's a girl, she'd get me the other

41:21

day, and she's like, I'm 13, I love

41:23

your Tik Talks, if she's 13. Oh my

41:26

God, she doesn't know anything. No, when she

41:28

born then, she was born in. I can't,

41:30

I can't, when I was 2021, it was

41:32

2021, when I was like, when I was

41:34

like, when it was 2021, when I was

41:36

like, when it was, when it was, it

41:38

was, when it was 21, when it was,

41:40

when it was, when it was, it was,

41:42

it was, when it was, it was, when

41:44

it was, it was, it was, it was,

41:46

it was, it was, it was, it was,

41:48

it was, it was, when it was, I

41:51

fucked this guy, the rumors are true of

41:53

how sex. I fucked this guy. That's like

41:55

the fourth time you said you have sex.

41:57

Like I'm like, we believe you. No, no,

41:59

no, I don't have any. I'm always always

42:01

prepared. I'm always prepared. I'm

42:03

always prepared. You're like, I

42:05

have sex, I'm going to

42:07

do 30 packets in January.

42:09

And guys, it's not that

42:11

I'm not getting late. I'm

42:13

so busy. Yes, with my

42:15

homework. Guys, I have sex.

42:17

But I, no, like, I'm

42:19

always, always prepared. Like, I'm

42:21

at CVS, like, looking for

42:23

razor burn all the time. Like,

42:25

where is it? No, I'm

42:27

just kidding. Were you born were

42:30

you alive for 9-11 and I was like how

42:32

old are you? What the hell is like it

42:34

was like 24 or something and I was like

42:36

I have two options I can freak the fuck

42:38

out or and I looked at him and I

42:40

was like It was a normal morning.

42:43

Like, there's no way. And he

42:45

was like, that must have been

42:47

so scary. And I was like,

42:49

it was super scary. Stuff. You're

42:51

like, not only was I alive,

42:54

I was conscious. Like, I have

42:56

memories. And I was like, please,

42:58

please never tell anyone about this.

43:00

I want to talk about it

43:02

on a podcast. Don't tell him.

43:04

I'm going to tell him for this.

43:07

If you saw him, you'd be

43:09

really proud of me. You

43:12

haven't figured that out

43:14

yet, so you're not ready. I

43:16

am. I saw that you posted

43:19

in November. That I had a

43:21

question. He shaved his mustache. Oh,

43:23

that was a joke though. Okay,

43:26

I couldn't tell. No, no, but

43:28

I really love a mustache. But

43:30

I've never dated anyone seriously

43:33

with a mustache. Me either. I think

43:35

a mustache is so fun. Oh my

43:37

God, I would love to. What's that

43:39

guy on the rug, the bear rug,

43:42

who's naked? Like Bert Reynolds. Oh, like

43:44

football player guy? Yeah, I know. Your

43:46

dad probably loves him. I know who

43:48

you're talking about, which is crazy. I

43:50

saw that as a kid, and I

43:52

was like, oh my God. Yeah, also

43:54

I feel like Miami was like the

43:57

birthplace of a mustache. Cocon mustaches, right?

43:59

Right? Yeah. Yeah. And I love that, I

44:01

love a mustache, you know what I mean?

44:03

You know what? I think everyone should

44:05

wear a mustache. That's the influence

44:07

you have on this podcast. All

44:09

the girls are like, grow it

44:11

out. Hmm, okay. Put the thread

44:13

down. There was something also when I

44:16

would turn like 26. I'm like, why

44:18

did my upper lip hair change? I'm

44:20

a different, but mine was like, not

44:23

like this, and then it changed. I'm

44:25

like, well, you're losing estrogen. Well, that's rude. I want

44:27

it back. Shannon, darling. Damn, is that what it is?

44:29

I was young. Yes, it is. I think so. I

44:31

found my first gray hair the other day too. First,

44:33

though. Your first is crazy. Yeah, I know. Super, that's

44:35

what I keep telling people. I fuck, I'm young. Yeah, I have

44:37

many gray hairs. You have many? Many. I call them nature's highlights.

44:40

Yeah, I love that. I just wish they weren't a different texture

44:42

of hair. What do you mean? Like I wish they weren't, like,

44:44

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

44:46

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

44:48

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

44:50

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

44:52

like, like Like my hair is like

44:55

one texture and then the gray

44:57

hair comes out and like not

44:59

belongs to a different head. Not

45:02

mine. Oh good. You've had one.

45:04

Not mine. Not mine? Yeah suddenly

45:07

you're like the expert on gray

45:09

hairs. Well gray hairs are. What

45:11

was I talking about before mustaches?

45:14

Oh and like dating. I do

45:16

have a really fat fucking crush

45:19

on someone. Okay. That I know

45:21

that I know. Things he likes me.

45:23

Okay, like he thinks he likes

45:25

me. Okay. Yeah I feel like

45:28

sometimes I date people and they're

45:30

like wait I should like her

45:32

Mm that's like my curse,

45:34

you know that That's interesting.

45:37

It has to be something

45:39

about who you're picking as

45:41

well though, right my picker Is so

45:43

bad. I have two types of men,

45:46

right? I need one who's like

45:48

gonna be caveman mm like

45:50

mustache. Oh, like he could throw

45:52

a cotton ball on a roof.

45:55

Okay. Just strong. Never heard that

45:57

saying ever. That's great. That's great.

45:59

I'm gonna have to put that into

46:02

my my urban dictionary. Yeah. And so

46:04

I need like that kind of like,

46:06

or I need just the gayest, skinniest

46:08

noodle, the dangly earring of a man.

46:10

I felt like you said that you

46:12

dated by men before. I only date

46:14

by men. Yeah. Or the men that

46:16

I date don't know they're by yet.

46:18

Got it. And then they figured out

46:20

while we're together, fuck you. And then

46:22

they want to break up and I'm

46:24

like, why would we break up? We

46:26

have more in common. I like cock

46:28

too. Why would we break up? This

46:30

doesn't have to pull us apart. You

46:32

made me pause lay miss for this?

46:34

We were harmonizing. What are you talking

46:36

about? And they're like, but yeah, I

46:39

love a feminine man. I love men

46:41

you can watch like Will and Grace

46:43

with. I feel like the majority of

46:45

men that I've dated have had experiences

46:47

with men. And I think that is

46:49

so fucking hot. It's not hot. is

46:51

doing that while we're together. Yeah, because

46:53

that's cheating. Because I love, there's nothing,

46:55

I love, I love three things in

46:57

the world. Brittany Spears, nicotine, and monogamy.

46:59

Oh, that's a tough one. Oh, that's

47:01

a tough one. That's a tough one

47:03

in these streets. Imagine me in a

47:05

long-term relationship listening to Brittany Spears smoking

47:07

a cigarette? Like, that seems like a

47:09

dream you could have. We could make

47:11

that happen. That is true. I have

47:13

not taken that. Have you ever had

47:16

sex with a man. Virgin. Because I

47:18

grew up in Dallas and then I

47:20

had like very religious friends. It was

47:22

more just like no one was really

47:24

having sex so I just got to

47:26

like fly under the radar with everyone

47:28

else. It wasn't like I think if

47:30

I grew up... You grew up Mormon?

47:32

No no no. Oh I don't know

47:34

why I started her in Dallas. Just

47:36

religious. It's more like it's giving more

47:38

like... Protestant, like what, what, I don't

47:40

even know, like Bible churches and stuff,

47:42

like I don't even know what the

47:44

Caucasian Protestant adjacent. Yeah, like also mega

47:46

churches. is some baptism.

47:48

Wait, I'm dying.

47:50

Baptism? Baptism. Baptist. Baptists.

47:53

Baptists, yeah. Which

47:55

is a religion. Baptism

47:57

is a verb.

47:59

Yeah, okay. So it

48:01

stuck with me.

48:03

I remember all that

48:05

religious stuff. No,

48:07

but I just like

48:09

flew under the

48:11

radar because no one

48:13

was like sleeping

48:15

with anyone. Which was awesome

48:17

for me. They're like, wait, of course

48:19

she hasn't lost her virginity. We're

48:22

not married. No, literally. That is incredible.

48:24

Yeah, I have friends who got married

48:26

and didn't touch penis. Didn't

48:29

even touch it. Not even over

48:31

the pants. I'm like, what

48:33

did you look at his pants when

48:35

they were tight at least to know what you

48:37

were like signing up for? Isn't

48:40

that wild? I mean, it's not wild.

48:42

If anyone's watching and you are doing who fucks so

48:44

much. So

48:47

again. 100%, I think

48:49

I got laid like three

48:51

times in 2024 Yeah,

48:53

time I'm every time it

48:55

happened I go I'm

49:01

literally fucking gone. They're like, why is she

49:03

so attached to me? I'm like, you don't

49:05

understand. I've been fishing in this river a

49:07

long time. Oh

49:10

my God. You're like, after this, I

49:12

have to film a 80 part series on

49:14

Jane Fonda. I don't want to explain

49:16

what I do for work. Yeah. But I

49:18

think I lost my virginity when I

49:20

was 15. Yeah, see, that's what I'm

49:22

saying. I think that there is like more, that's

49:24

more common. Not 15 sounds a little, I

49:26

don't know. I don't know what's right

49:28

wrong. No, you can judge me to my

49:31

face. No, no, no, I don't know.

49:33

I don't know who's watching, but it does

49:35

seem like many people lose their virginity or

49:37

at least start to explore sexuality in high

49:39

school in some way, shape, or form. I did

49:41

too, but with a girl. But

49:43

we didn't have sex. We just

49:45

were like, I'm in love with

49:47

you. We're going to hell,

49:49

but together. Yeah, well then we were

49:52

like, but apart. Because her parents

49:54

found out. Everyone who watches my

49:56

podcast is like, stop talking about

49:58

this, but basically her parents put

50:00

a baby monitor her. room found out that

50:02

we liked each other out at us to like my family her

50:05

family so that was like my my origin story my

50:07

like first like out experience was really bad

50:09

so I think that's also why this and

50:11

how old are you 16 so then in

50:13

19 so you were full of shame and

50:15

so then you said that's not true that's

50:18

not true it's not true it's not true

50:20

I went to Oklahoma went to Oklahoma the

50:22

Gaius, state of them all. I'm at the

50:24

home, joined as a priority. You should have

50:26

gone to Miami. I mean, I should have

50:28

done a million other things. You should have

50:30

been in New York. I could have gone

50:32

to Austin, like my sister went to UT.

50:34

UT, although still Texas. Longhorns? Yeah.

50:37

It's definitely more open-minded about

50:39

that kind of thing, but I did it on

50:41

purpose, because it's like, fuck you guys, I'm not

50:43

gay, I'm going to make out with Jake with Jake

50:45

out with Jake out with Jake out with Jake

50:48

out with Jake out with Jake with Jake

50:50

with Jake. He never even tried to touch

50:52

him so confused about him as well. No,

50:54

literally the other guy I made out with

50:57

in college, there were only three. One of

50:59

them is an out man now. I'm telling

51:01

you, that's what I was going to

51:03

say, the girls that married the guys

51:05

that didn't want to fuck, it must

51:07

be a dream come true for a

51:09

gay man. I know, but I don't

51:11

think they're gay. I think they're really,

51:13

really religious. Like they believe that. So

51:15

why don't you fuck when you're in

51:18

front of me? This is the thing

51:20

too, I just feel so stressed for

51:22

so many people in that kind

51:24

of like environment because they're just...

51:26

That's jail cell? Yeah, it's just

51:29

so, there's so much suppression of

51:31

sexuality that I feel like even when they

51:33

get into marriages, it's like, it feels

51:35

naughty. Like sex is so naughty to

51:37

me. Like, I only recently started

51:39

to like speak when I'm having sex.

51:42

Oh my God, I am such... the

51:44

four times I've ever had sex. I

51:46

am, I am like, are you talking?

51:48

I'm like, no, I can't stand you,

51:51

Debbie. Why aren't you talking? What's on

51:53

your mind? No, no, not what's

51:55

on your mind. This is why

51:57

bisexual men love me though. Yeah.

51:59

I'm only also, and I'm 32

52:02

by the way, again, I'm only

52:04

realizing how bizarre. I mean, I

52:06

love, I love communication though, I'm

52:08

a big communication

52:10

girl, but I feel like quiet

52:12

sex. I know, there's like, obviously

52:15

there were sounds happening and stuff,

52:17

but there was not a lot

52:19

of, like, I'm only also, and

52:21

I'm 32 by the way again,

52:24

I'm only realizing how, how bizarre

52:26

that was, like. Not that it's

52:28

bizarre if you're having quiet sex.

52:30

You're not quite done. You're too

52:32

interneted. I know. You're too interneted.

52:35

Someone is gonna come. As a

52:37

quiet sex community leader. Literally though.

52:39

No guys. There's no right or

52:41

wrong way to have sex. Okay.

52:43

But I realize now I would talk about

52:46

that like kind of freely. If I were

52:48

you, I would eha when I come if I were

52:50

you. Yeah ha! Like that. No. But I could just

52:52

talk a little bit more. I

52:55

don't think I'm going to start

52:58

doing that. But I'm also... No,

53:00

thank you, please. No, no. No,

53:02

thank you, please. I need to...

53:04

Anyway, be single, so... Well, you're

53:06

a lesbian. You're going

53:09

to be single for what,

53:11

three months? I know, but... I know,

53:13

but this time, I'm not allowed. Do

53:15

you have a lot... What do you

53:17

mean? Jesus? No, I've just been

53:20

like such a... I... I've been

53:22

like a serial monogamous, I've like dated

53:24

many people back to back, I've had

53:26

long term. Is it hard for you?

53:28

Hey, and I'm Alona too. Okay. Okay.

53:31

Yeah. There's two strategies here. There's two

53:33

strategies, yes. But yeah, I don't know.

53:35

I think, I was talking about this

53:37

with someone recently. I think there's

53:39

this like idea of like, um.

53:41

like a scarcity mindset when it comes to

53:44

like lesbianism and queer women culture because

53:46

there's 50 of you worldwide there's not

53:48

that many of us and then when

53:50

like a really eligible one becomes available or

53:52

like a someone that you're like well

53:54

wait I'm attracted to you you're like you're my

53:56

type you're like in the same city you're

53:58

like when all those things line up You're

54:00

like, well I have to date you

54:02

down. Even if you're in, like I

54:04

know so many queer people get into

54:07

relationships when they're like, I was like,

54:09

you know, I was gonna do my

54:11

soul searching, but then we met and

54:13

now we're in love. And I'm like,

54:16

that's good. I thought I could work

54:18

and operate that way as well. But

54:20

I'm like, oh God, no. And also

54:22

so many people keep getting gay. So

54:25

I'm like, I just need to relax.

54:27

Hey. That's fucking funny. Oh my

54:30

God, that is a good title

54:32

for something. For something somewhere. Copyright

54:34

that. Pandemic. Okay. No, but it's

54:36

real. I get that though. I

54:38

get that too. Also, it's like

54:41

a kinship, you know. I'm one

54:43

of my friends Bowman. He is

54:45

in a monogamous relationship with a

54:47

man and he's like I want

54:49

to get married so bad but

54:51

I'm like and him and his

54:54

boyfriend have talked about this like

54:56

there's not a lot of examples

54:58

of a monogamous long-term gay relationship

55:00

and once in a while I

55:02

mean the Palm Springs gays yeah

55:04

those muscular like biker gays they've

55:07

been together since like the 80s

55:09

yeah or like the roommates of

55:11

like that we all grew up

55:13

with. They're women. Yeah. Yeah. But

55:15

they're like, yeah, not a lot.

55:17

That's another rule of mine is

55:20

like when a video. There's a

55:22

couple videos of mine that I

55:24

kept up, but I regret because

55:26

the people that agreed with me,

55:28

I don't like. And that's how

55:31

you know you're on the wrong

55:33

side or whatever. I'm not talking

55:35

about anything like hateful. It's just

55:37

people that I find really fucking

55:39

annoying. Like people who are just

55:41

like. The quiet sex of America

55:44

like whiners. Yeah, you know and

55:46

like the PC police, but like

55:48

the ones that take it to

55:50

like Extreme, I'm like still trying

55:52

to be nice though I love

55:54

you guys Hey, how do you

55:57

know what? PC police. I love

55:59

those guys or

56:01

people, you know, and

56:03

we're all people. And I love

56:05

all those people. Everyone deserves a

56:07

life of dignity. That's what I say

56:09

whenever I'm in trouble. Everyone deserves

56:11

a life of dignity. That's good. Don't

56:13

you think me too? Yeah, yeah.

56:15

But I think the biggest internet dramas

56:17

I've ever gotten myself into are

56:19

being intentionally

56:23

misunderstood because, I mean,

56:25

we just got the

56:27

10 minute TikToks a

56:29

year ago or something. Thank God that must have

56:31

changed your life. Yeah, no,

56:34

it's part 10, not part 15. But

56:36

that must, I was one of

56:38

the last ones to get it. And I

56:40

was emailing TikTok, I'm like, if anyone. It's

56:42

like they did it on purpose. They're like,

56:44

actually, no, she's boosting the algorithm because she

56:46

has to make so many videos. Why would

56:48

they give it to you? Like Allie, Allie,

56:50

whatever. What's her name? Allie the dancer? Belaris.

56:53

Belaris, got it before me 4 ,000%. For

56:55

sure. And I'm like. I'm sure I did.

56:57

Barely ever I'm on there. And you're like, hey

56:59

guys. No,

57:02

I'm like, so the thing

57:04

about civil rights in this era

57:06

and I have to keep

57:08

going back and forth, back and

57:10

forth. But like, I remember, what's

57:13

one thing? Like, Anara Smith with

57:15

her baby name. Oh, I giggled at

57:17

it. What was it? It's like

57:19

Tootsie. Rumble. Rumble. I'm

57:21

laughing. Tootsie. Yes.

57:24

Similar to Rumble. Tootsie, Rumble, same

57:26

tree, same family. Latin for, but I

57:28

giggled because my mom, my mom's

57:30

a Colombian Scorpio. She meets a Piper.

57:32

She's like, stupid. Like, I remember

57:34

when I moved to New York, I

57:37

met a Kelsey and she's like,

57:39

that's made up. And I'm like, Mom,

57:41

I'm telling you, there's a girl,

57:43

I met a girl named Kelsey. That's

57:46

like not a weird name. It is when

57:48

you come from Maria Cristina Patricia, Adelaida de

57:50

los Reyes. You know what I mean? I

57:52

come from a world, my mom and my

57:54

aunt, who are I come from the world

57:56

of Kelsey. I'm like, wait, Kelsey's really normal.

57:58

My sister's name's Casey. No, that's

58:00

crazy. With a C? With a C.

58:02

C-A-S-C-Y. That's crazy. Yeah, I wish.

58:05

I want her name though. I feel

58:07

like I should be Casey. Shannon is

58:09

a gorgeous name. I've never met a

58:11

bad person who's a Shannon. Wow. Okay,

58:13

it usually made me feel really

58:16

good about myself. Period. Shannon. Thank

58:18

you so much. I used to

58:20

have an assistant called Channer, so

58:23

I call her Channer's Bananers. Cute.

58:25

Yeah, I love Chan. But Shannon's

58:27

a good name. You're like, that's

58:30

a real name. Like, Trisha

58:32

is a good name. Oh, okay. Wait, how long

58:34

has your name been Tefy? Like, how

58:36

long have people called you Tefey? Oh,

58:38

so I had a, when I was,

58:40

um. Oh, so my mom's super judgmental, super critical.

58:42

She is the reason I am who I

58:45

am today. She's one of the funniest people

58:47

I've ever met in my life. Love. But

58:49

she had all of her friends. The friends that

58:51

she has today, like her group of

58:53

25 friends, they all went to kindergarten

58:55

together. So when they all had babies

58:57

in 1989 and 1990, that's when they

59:00

all started. That's like literally a dream

59:02

that just will never exist for me.

59:04

I truly believe that my mother's friends

59:06

in her. Like, are they're all

59:08

soulmates? Mm-hmm. Because their lives,

59:11

they did not mean to

59:13

end up in Miami together.

59:16

Like, they all had completely

59:18

different fucking lives. Okay, so

59:21

maybe that could happen for

59:23

me. Exactly. And there's only

59:26

50 lesbians in the world.

59:28

There's, like, 10. So, I've met

59:30

all of them. Oh, 40 of them

59:32

are by now. One of the moms has

59:34

a daughter Danielle Jankelevic who I

59:37

just talked to yesterday and she

59:39

Couldn't say is Stefaniya. She would

59:41

say Tafamida. So from Tafamida. I

59:43

went from Tafida Tefite to Tefitei.

59:45

But I also had a little

59:47

bit of a speech impediment growing

59:49

up. I couldn't say T-H I'd

59:51

say think a lot. I think

59:53

that's why I can't do math

59:55

because the speech therapist would come

59:57

during math in elementary school. That's

59:59

what. And also, like, I wouldn't

1:00:01

say the S in some words.

1:00:04

So my Caucasian family that married

1:00:06

into my family, like my uncle

1:00:08

Ray, my uncle Louis, they would

1:00:11

call me Steffy. And I thought

1:00:13

that was so cute because there,

1:00:15

Miami is little Cuba, it's like

1:00:17

little Latin America. So having like

1:00:20

your uncles who live in New

1:00:22

York, that nickname, I was like.

1:00:24

That's a cool nickname. I'm gonna be Raxi. Like

1:00:26

that was like everything. But I come to school

1:00:28

and I couldn't say the yes, it would be

1:00:31

tuffy. So it's like a mixture of the two.

1:00:33

That's really cute. Yeah, and so when people

1:00:35

started finding that out, it was more like

1:00:37

in middle school, a girl, Gabby Fernandez came to

1:00:39

my house to help me with homework. Okay.

1:00:41

She's a doctor now math.

1:00:43

She's so yeah and she

1:00:45

told everybody that my name

1:00:47

was Tefy and everyone was

1:00:50

relieved because they didn't have

1:00:52

to call me Estefania and

1:00:54

I was sobbing crying I

1:00:56

was so embarrassed I was

1:00:58

so embarrassed and I was

1:01:00

sobbing crying I was so embarrassed

1:01:02

and I was so embarrassed

1:01:05

and I was like what? And

1:01:07

so then ever since like 7th

1:01:09

grade people have called me Tefy.

1:01:11

I feel like it's such a cool

1:01:13

name because it's really memorable. Like no

1:01:16

one, well like, and even when I

1:01:18

was telling people last night that you

1:01:20

were coming on my podcast today, I

1:01:22

was like, you know Tefy, like hello

1:01:24

Tefy, and they were like, yeah, everyone

1:01:27

immediately. I'm like, if you were just

1:01:29

saying, like, I don't know. Yeah, like

1:01:31

a normal, like a, my name is

1:01:33

Stephanie in Spanish, like, like, like,

1:01:35

like, When I first, it is a stage

1:01:38

name. It really is. Wait, really quickly.

1:01:40

I read something, I read two things

1:01:42

that I want to ask you about, but we

1:01:44

are running. About me? Yes. Oh, okay. But

1:01:46

one thing I read was that you want

1:01:48

to have an egot. I would, oh

1:01:50

my god, Shannon, I don't even understand

1:01:52

what you just brought up. I said

1:01:54

that interview as a fucking joke. I

1:01:56

can't sing? I was like, oh my

1:01:58

gosh, she's got like. She's acting and

1:02:01

she's doing, she's singing, she's... And now

1:02:03

I have to. I watch you in

1:02:05

a podcast and you were singing and

1:02:07

you sound pretty good. Which one?

1:02:09

I have to watch it. You

1:02:12

and the Scottish girl? She's Scottish?

1:02:14

She's Scottish, she's English. A yamé?

1:02:16

Yeah. She's from London. Well, I

1:02:18

love Scotland. I was watching that

1:02:20

in like four times speed trying

1:02:23

to be like, oh, and you

1:02:25

guys literally were, by the way,

1:02:27

flirting and second, melting into each

1:02:29

other on that couch. Shannon,

1:02:31

her and I are blackout drunk. Well,

1:02:33

I thought maybe. You did say you

1:02:36

had one, but you guys literally, just

1:02:38

you, you, she didn't move, by the

1:02:40

way. I am this person though. I,

1:02:42

people on airplanes, tell me, stop touching

1:02:44

my knee and I'm scared. Like, I

1:02:47

am this person. My mom says that

1:02:49

every photo of me as a child

1:02:51

is me talking to her like this.

1:02:53

I talk to everyone like this. I

1:02:55

don't know what my problem is. As

1:02:57

a kid, now I think people know

1:03:00

my character and my morals and my

1:03:02

values. But as a kid as a

1:03:04

teenager, everybody thought I wanted to fuck

1:03:06

their boyfriend. And I have a

1:03:08

boyfriend. And he hasn't come out

1:03:10

yet. I'm like, I am such a

1:03:13

close talker and I'm such a toucher.

1:03:15

And I'm such a touch talker. growing

1:03:17

up in such a close family like

1:03:19

and friends that you kiss hello I

1:03:21

got here I got to New York when

1:03:23

I was 22 and I went to a

1:03:26

party and I kissed a Like a

1:03:28

girl was like, hi, I'm like, hi,

1:03:30

how are you? And then the

1:03:32

guy was like, hi, and

1:03:34

she goes, don't kiss my

1:03:36

fucking boyfriend. I'm like, nobody

1:03:38

wants your fucking man. Like,

1:03:40

what the fuck? So. Also,

1:03:42

you kissed her first? I

1:03:44

did. Yeah, what the fuck.

1:03:46

If anything, I want her. Like,

1:03:49

get out of here. But the

1:03:51

egot thing was a joke, I

1:03:53

think I said it to like

1:03:55

time or something. I mean my managers

1:03:57

and my agents were like money.

1:04:00

Sounds good. And I was like, I'm

1:04:02

gonna do a comedy album. I'm gonna

1:04:04

do a comedy album this year.

1:04:06

Sick. I'm gonna start acting classes.

1:04:08

I'm gonna do something in theater.

1:04:11

I have to, even if it's like

1:04:13

Peawee's Playhouse. I have to. I'm going

1:04:15

to get back on television. Fuck

1:04:17

yeah. And I'm gonna start fucking. I

1:04:19

don't know about that. Honestly with

1:04:22

all that you just said, that's

1:04:24

probably the thing you're gonna do

1:04:26

the least amount of. I'm going

1:04:28

to try to have sex four

1:04:30

times this year. Yes! Four times

1:04:32

this year, yes. Okay, one not

1:04:35

with a man. That's usually what

1:04:37

happens, Janet. That's usually what

1:04:39

I usually, men are, men

1:04:41

have a way to ruin

1:04:44

it and women wait to

1:04:46

ruin it until after. And women

1:04:48

wait to ruin it until

1:04:50

after. And I really appreciate

1:04:52

that. Men are, men have

1:04:54

a way to ruin it

1:04:56

until after. we are an

1:04:58

interesting breed to date. Yes, I

1:05:00

love it. Okay, you wrote such

1:05:02

a cool thing about moving to

1:05:04

New York and then someone calling

1:05:06

you like spicy that was dating

1:05:09

you. And I just thought that

1:05:11

that was so insightful and interesting.

1:05:13

I'm like, can we talk about

1:05:15

it a little bit? Because I

1:05:17

think that's cool. Not cool that

1:05:19

it happened. The way that you

1:05:21

wrote about it was really interesting.

1:05:23

I think when, okay, so. women right

1:05:25

in general were known to be

1:05:27

like you have to be everything

1:05:29

at once right I I'm gonna

1:05:31

say something I've never said publicly

1:05:33

I've never seen Barbie stop it

1:05:36

have you seen Barbie obviously I

1:05:38

thought you're gonna say no and I

1:05:40

was like I'm like surely did

1:05:42

no I didn't because I think when

1:05:44

I'm burnt out emotionally I can't like

1:05:46

emotionally invest in anything else so when

1:05:49

they were like Barbies about being a

1:05:51

woman I'm like I can't I can't

1:05:53

do that right now I've been there

1:05:55

done I can't I can't I can't

1:05:57

possibly so I know they talk about

1:06:00

and Barbie a lot too, like

1:06:02

how you have to be everything

1:06:04

all at once, but like being

1:06:06

Latin and dating somebody who's

1:06:08

not Latin, there are moments

1:06:11

where you lean into like,

1:06:13

not lean in, you are

1:06:15

expected to lean into like

1:06:17

this caricature of yourself, where

1:06:19

I am American, like I

1:06:21

am first generation Latin American,

1:06:24

but. Like I was raised around

1:06:26

the same kind of ideals and

1:06:28

people and social media and like

1:06:30

media, whatever, as everybody else. But

1:06:32

for some reason, when you date,

1:06:34

I'm just gonna say it, when

1:06:36

you date white guys. I was

1:06:38

gonna say it, when you date

1:06:40

white guys. I was gonna say

1:06:42

it, when you date a guy

1:06:44

with the sister named Kelsey. Exactly,

1:06:46

Father Casey. No, Casey, I know a guy

1:06:49

named Casey. He's my makeup

1:06:51

artist, he's my makeup artist,

1:06:53

he's gay. Like Keenan, we don't see

1:06:55

that name anymore. Cal. Yeah, so true.

1:06:57

Cal. We see it every Saturday night.

1:06:59

Who? Keenan and Cal? Oh yeah.

1:07:02

I thought you meant Travis Cal. So

1:07:04

I'm like, you watch football like that.

1:07:06

Oh my God. I'm not that lesbian.

1:07:08

Well, I feel like when you date

1:07:10

white guys for some reason, the

1:07:12

white men that I've dated, they

1:07:14

need some kind of, they need

1:07:16

to be different too. I can

1:07:18

explain it, but they need to

1:07:20

be quirky and special and special

1:07:23

too. Social with the media climate

1:07:25

that being like a white guy

1:07:27

is like really really bad, but

1:07:29

they want to be like They want

1:07:31

to have issues too. So like my

1:07:33

mom was really mean to me. I'm

1:07:35

like, okay, whatever Or if I

1:07:37

didn't blow out this Me I'd

1:07:39

go pro or whatever the fuck

1:07:42

But this one guy that was

1:07:44

dating. He was manipulating me and

1:07:46

I knew that he was manipulating

1:07:49

me, but I was broke and I didn't

1:07:51

have a job. I mean, I did have a

1:07:53

job, but it wasn't... I was living paycheck to

1:07:55

paycheck, and I was working like a ton

1:07:57

of odd jobs, like if you needed to

1:07:59

get... your electricity rewired I'd be

1:08:01

on YouTube University and that before and I'd

1:08:03

do it you know for like $10 like

1:08:05

I was doing whatever I could so I

1:08:08

couldn't be that and single and have a

1:08:10

failed relationship like I could it at 23

1:08:12

that's like the end of the fucking world

1:08:14

yeah so and I remember he was telling me

1:08:16

how he was telling me how he didn't want

1:08:18

to he didn't want to he didn't want

1:08:20

to meet my family and we'd been dating

1:08:22

for a year and we'd been dating for a

1:08:25

year and we'd been dating for a year and

1:08:27

we'd been dating for a year and And as

1:08:29

a Latin girl, like that's like, you have to,

1:08:31

like you have to. In my house, it's

1:08:33

never too soon to meet your family because

1:08:35

my family wants you to know that if

1:08:38

you fuck with me, that there are faces

1:08:40

to names, you know? So it wasn't even

1:08:42

about like it being so serious. It was

1:08:44

about like, no, you don't understand, like my

1:08:46

family has to meet you. And he was

1:08:48

manipulating me and he was like, like, I

1:08:51

hate the word gas light now, but. He

1:08:53

was trying to make me

1:08:55

disbelieve my own reality. It's

1:08:57

gas lady. Right. And what

1:08:59

the hard part is, as

1:09:01

a woman, is like, you can't

1:09:03

show that you're angry because then

1:09:06

people will remember how you

1:09:08

said it, not what you

1:09:10

said. You know? But at 23,

1:09:12

you don't know that. No. So I

1:09:15

remember I said something like.

1:09:17

This is bullshit and he stopped

1:09:19

and he looked at me and

1:09:21

he was like, oh, we're getting

1:09:24

spicy. And in that moment,

1:09:26

I realized nothing, I can

1:09:28

never feel anything. If I

1:09:30

felt anger, if I felt

1:09:32

excitement, if I felt passionate,

1:09:34

if I felt tender, if I was,

1:09:36

you know, was, uh, I was gonna say

1:09:39

horny, but I can't. I knew

1:09:41

it. I'm thinking of spicy stuff.

1:09:43

I knew. I was like, is

1:09:45

she gonna say horny. I'm a

1:09:47

virgin. That's the end

1:09:49

of the podcast. I've

1:09:52

never had sex. She's

1:09:54

coming out. Ask something

1:09:57

today. As the quiet

1:09:59

fuckers. But I remember

1:10:01

thinking like nothing I feel

1:10:03

will ever be valid as long

1:10:06

as this person sees me

1:10:08

as a spicy Latina. And I

1:10:10

didn't, but the problem

1:10:12

with saying with what I wrote,

1:10:15

sometimes now, is that I'll see.

1:10:17

One, POV, I'm a spicy Latina,

1:10:19

and I get way too angry

1:10:22

in the comments. I'm like, this

1:10:24

is just a girl in London.

1:10:26

Like, this is like, this is

1:10:28

a girl somewhere in Rome, and

1:10:31

she's like, who the fuck is

1:10:33

this? Ollatepi, chow tepi. Or I'll

1:10:35

see other Latinas who are in

1:10:38

my comment section about something completely

1:10:40

else, like a selfie or a

1:10:42

funny video, whatever the fuck,

1:10:44

and it's like spicy Latina. 073. It's

1:10:46

cool if I say, like it's cool

1:10:48

if we say it, you know, but

1:10:50

I do think the performance of being

1:10:53

a woman sometimes we complicate for the

1:10:55

sake of being loved and understood. And

1:10:57

there were moments in that relationship where

1:10:59

I liked being a spicy Latina for

1:11:01

him because I wasn't like the girls

1:11:03

he had dated before. And I was

1:11:05

showing him a whole new world. And

1:11:07

then all of a sudden I had

1:11:09

stabbed myself in the back because I

1:11:11

was suddenly spicy. So I didn't know

1:11:13

how to be my true self.

1:11:16

authentic self and

1:11:19

express my emotion

1:11:21

and still want him

1:11:24

need him to want

1:11:26

to fuck me yeah well

1:11:29

it became like

1:11:31

your whole identity

1:11:34

yeah in that relationship yeah but

1:11:36

that's crazy fucking man dude you

1:11:38

don't have to Look down the

1:11:40

barrel, look around, but if you

1:11:43

do have anything. And he got,

1:11:45

um, January is going to be

1:11:47

a busy month. I'm a Beyonce,

1:11:50

rising, I may, every month I'm

1:11:52

like, and this.