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It's the great Sean Evans

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everybody. Hey! Thanks so much

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for having me. Thank you.

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I hope Bert gets a

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it's gonna add a whole new

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dynamic to his live show. Thanks

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for being here. You're in town

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because South by Southwest, and you're

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gonna, are you gonna speak? Yeah,

1:00

they have, it's a totally full schedule.

1:02

It's been a really busy year, but

1:04

yeah, just an itinerary that's packed for

1:06

like the next couple days where. God,

1:09

it sounds awful. They'll shove me into

1:11

a room, take a bunch of pictures.

1:13

Um you know I'm leaning into this

1:16

year so like you know I was

1:18

just I was at the Oscars last weekend

1:20

we did like Sundance like the weekend

1:22

before that like the whole calendar has

1:24

filled up and I'm just kind of

1:26

leaning into it right now every time

1:28

I arrive somewhere and they go this

1:31

is your calendar. My objective is I

1:33

go, how can we reduce this? That's

1:35

what I lead with. How can we

1:37

do less instead of what you've proposed?

1:39

I think that's something that comes with

1:41

growth. You know, right now this is

1:43

my first time kind of going through

1:45

all of this. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:47

yeah. So I'll review it afterwards and

1:50

figure out what we need to do.

1:52

You'll go never do this to me

1:54

again. That'll be the subject line. Never

1:56

again. Yeah, right. I'm learning. I'm learning

1:59

all those things. I mean, everybody who

2:01

knows from watching anything on YouTube, everybody

2:03

knows hot ones and the trajectory of

2:06

this thing is incredible. You're like the,

2:08

that's the prototype. That's the dream for

2:10

people is they go, I have an

2:12

idea, I'd like to do this, you

2:15

know, this bit kind of online and

2:17

maybe it'll turn into something. And then

2:19

the A plus plus example is hot

2:22

ones. That's got to feel pretty amazing.

2:24

Yeah, it does. I never take for

2:26

granted this unique magic carpet ride that

2:28

I've been on. And I'll also say

2:30

that a lot of it came by

2:32

accident. You know, like, we had this

2:35

idea, but I don't think we realize

2:37

the degree to which, you know, hot

2:39

sauce is a disrupt development, all the

2:41

hours spent, like, really committing to the

2:43

interview, the way that it would kind

2:45

of make this, what's it like to

2:48

have a beer with this person show

2:50

that people have been trying to invent

2:52

for a really long time. Yeah, I

2:54

think yeah people and sometimes I kind

2:56

of miss even just this like this

2:58

is fine You know, you don't have

3:01

to add some sort of high concept

3:03

to it. I remember watching Maybe it's

3:05

before a Monday night football game and

3:07

it was Sims doing an interview with

3:09

some with Patrick Mahomes and they're doing

3:11

this interview and then they mixed into

3:13

it like playing catch with each other

3:15

right and I remember that being just

3:17

a distracting element yeah but it comes

3:19

from a place of people sitting around

3:21

in a boardroom being like well we

3:23

can't just do an interview we have

3:25

to interview like we have to introduce something

3:28

sort of high concept to it which maybe

3:30

it's gone a little too far I didn't

3:32

realize to the genius of hot ones

3:34

until after doing it, which is

3:37

that like on its surface, it

3:39

can appear that, oh, this is

3:41

some gimmick, like eat hot wings,

3:44

right? But the thing that happens

3:46

is that when you have something

3:48

like hot sauce, it disrupts

3:50

your natural guard. So

3:53

as these questions progress

3:56

and you're uncomfortable, you're

3:58

speaking in a way. that you would

4:00

not normally speak. And that's really the magic.

4:03

You're like, because like you could do with

4:05

alcohol, but then you have like, you know,

4:07

it's different, right? You have your inhibitions are

4:09

kind of like, it's, also it's like it's

4:12

making you, it's gonna affect you for

4:14

a longer period, right? You're gonna be

4:16

drunk eventually. But this is like this

4:18

temporary thing that throws off your equilibrium

4:20

and your judgment all sudden, it's like

4:22

truth serum. It's truth serum is what

4:24

it is. Yeah, and I think it

4:26

also just distracts you from the formality

4:28

of an interview. Yeah, you know, like

4:30

It's so bizarre just the concept in

4:32

general that you'll sit down Oftentimes with

4:34

someone that you're meeting for the first

4:36

time You'll have to create this rhythm

4:39

this energy this rapport in the sense

4:41

of trust with someone and then you're

4:43

doing it in this ridiculous context of having

4:45

all these cameras pointed at you and it

4:47

being a show, you know, that just in

4:49

its architecture should Probably brick 90%

4:51

of the time. You know, interviews should

4:54

have like a 90% fail rate when

4:56

you just look at how they're designed.

4:58

But I think just the act of

5:00

sharing a meal with somebody, that's something

5:03

that can kind of create that trust.

5:05

And then the hot sauce and then

5:07

just being disoriented by the whole thing,

5:09

I think you just kind of forget

5:12

that you're on an interview show, plus

5:14

the way that we shoot. It's like

5:16

deep in the room, the black curtains,

5:18

all of that. that are very detailed.

5:21

I feel like too, like we, you know,

5:23

I've watched a lot of them and I've

5:25

obviously, I've been on the show and you're

5:27

like, you start to appreciate that you kind

5:30

of leave there and you're like, what the

5:32

fuck just happened there? How did they know

5:34

this stuff? And like, like, what did I

5:36

just say? Do I have to text them

5:39

and say, please cut that like all those

5:41

things? But I feel like also, you're so

5:43

good at interviewing that. I think you're next,

5:46

you know, like at some point you're going

5:48

to stop doing it. Right. You're our next

5:50

Charlie Rose. Oh, yeah. I mean, I remember, I

5:52

think he was the man and then he like

5:54

peed on someone and then it was and then

5:57

they stopped letting him do the show. But we

5:59

need the guy who. gives the really good

6:01

in-depth interview. Well, thanks.

6:04

I appreciate the compliment.

6:06

Well, half compliment. Because

6:08

it's a real compliment.

6:10

Yeah. Shout out to Charlie

6:12

Rose. I'm still a fan. Yeah, I

6:14

think, um. You know interviewing is just it's something

6:16

that I don't think anyone's naturally good at in

6:18

the beginning and I think you only get better

6:21

by the reps and all the hours that you

6:23

have to put in so that's always what I've

6:25

just tried to try to stay committed to is

6:27

the next interview trying to make it a little

6:30

bit better than the next one and just keep

6:32

building those things and what do you advise for

6:34

interview like if somebody was like how do you

6:36

give a good interview like what's your take on

6:38

it? I think be naturally curious and enthusiastic when

6:41

you're doing the kind of interview that I'm doing

6:43

if you're talking to a movie star that

6:45

has a movie coming out. I think it's

6:47

the... the best thing the way that I do

6:49

it is I just try to walk a mile

6:51

in someone else's shoes so if we're interviewing a

6:53

musician I'll listen all the music make a playlist

6:56

that'll become the soundtrack to my life for a

6:58

week if they've if they have a whole filmography

7:00

you know end your night with like a little

7:02

double feature and really soak in their output as

7:04

an artist because I think in a lot of

7:06

ways that can communicate who they are as a

7:09

person just as much as anything that you would

7:11

read in a profile or whatever. And then obviously

7:13

you should do that other work and really dive

7:15

into all the stuff. And then you have so

7:17

many resources on YouTube, so many interviews, so

7:19

many things that you can reference in order

7:22

to get a better understanding of the person

7:24

that you're talking to. But I think overall

7:26

people that begin, they'll probably just make a

7:28

list of questions and just try to fill

7:31

up that sheet and think like that's kind

7:33

of enough or whatever. That's the. When you're

7:35

doing press, they always like, hey, you want

7:37

to do an interview with this college kid?

7:40

And you're like, sure. And then the college

7:42

kid is like, what made you like comedy? And

7:44

you're like, I've watched it. And they're like,

7:46

when did you start? And then I have

7:48

four more. And you're like, OK. And it's

7:50

like they're filling their quota. Exactly. Yeah, they

7:52

just want to fill up the sheet and

7:54

be like, well, that's, I've done my job.

7:56

I've done my job. I've done my job.

7:58

I've done my job. on the other person

8:01

to elevate this whole thing. Yeah. Your

8:03

whole thing is essentially don't be lazy.

8:05

Yeah and that's hard to do sometimes.

8:07

It's effort. You guys put time and

8:09

effort into it. I think it's obvious

8:11

like when you do the show and

8:13

when you watch the show you're like

8:15

oh they didn't just like go tell

8:17

us about your movie. Right, well I

8:19

think that that's also important because you're

8:21

coming in to eat these scorching hot

8:23

chicken wings. I think it's only right

8:25

that we meet someone halfway. It's kind

8:27

of just a respect thing, but also,

8:29

and maybe you can speak to this,

8:32

but if you're sitting down with somebody

8:34

who's just like, has their list or

8:36

whatever, you know, the value of an

8:38

interview is going to depend a lot

8:40

on the generosity of the person that

8:42

you're interviewing. So I think that if

8:44

you meet them halfway, if you, Show them

8:46

especially early on that it's going to

8:48

be a different kind of interview then

8:51

they'll relax their shoulders And then that

8:53

can be just as disarming as the

8:55

wings and the sauce. So I think

8:57

it's that combination of things and That

8:59

really can make a good interview, but I

9:01

think it's also just reps in time

9:03

and hours doing it that makes you

9:06

better It's clear that you guys do

9:08

a better job that it's so funny

9:10

because it's non-traditional media and then you

9:12

go this is Like, right, you know,

9:14

it's online versus like a ABC show

9:17

or something and you're like, yeah, you

9:19

guys did a way better interview, like

9:21

you guys, a way better interview. And

9:23

then it gets probably, even though you

9:25

guys have, it's wildly popular and you

9:28

have so many views, I'm sure there's

9:30

a percentage of the public that like,

9:32

I don't watch this chicken wing shit,

9:34

like, you know, they're like, I want

9:36

to watch the traditional thing where I

9:38

learn nothing about this person. there's the

9:41

eyeballs situation, you know, like so many

9:43

eyeballs now on these internet shows and

9:45

then the production is flattened so much.

9:47

You know, when you're looking at something

9:49

on YouTube, it looks just as good

9:52

as it does on those network shows.

9:54

And then when you think about where

9:56

a lot of these shows, I'll include

9:58

ours, live in culture. kinds of guests they

10:01

have in the numbers that they put up.

10:03

I think that kind of separating those

10:05

two things is just it's just a

10:07

matter of time before that disappears because

10:09

I think all of that is flattened

10:12

so much. I think you're right. It's

10:14

widely reported that the show has been

10:16

sold but you still get to operate

10:18

it. So now that you're legit wealthy

10:21

what are the bitches like dude? I

10:23

don't know it's kind of dry out here

10:25

right now. Yeah yeah there's a there's a

10:27

big um responsibility now with

10:29

what we have going on because we didn't

10:31

plug into anything you know like we basically

10:34

plugged into severance yeah so now I feel

10:36

like I've had such a busy year like

10:38

January was the busiest month of my career

10:40

so far until February hit because because of

10:43

the lead up to selling it or no

10:45

I think now it's just there's the responsibility

10:47

of doing now it's on us you know

10:50

what I mean like we were able to

10:52

extract that jinga piece and get our baby

10:54

and now it just feels like It all

10:56

falls on our shoulders to make

10:58

it successful. So I've just been

11:00

selling out with everything that I

11:02

do this year. And then I

11:04

think that also like coincides with

11:06

the profile rising and then a

11:08

lot of these other polls in

11:10

various directions, including like the reason

11:13

I'm here today, you know, in

11:15

Austin. So it's just been the

11:17

studio, the airport, the hotel, back

11:19

to the airport, to the studio,

11:21

to the airport, to the studio,

11:23

hotel, like nonstop. Sean, as a

11:25

fellow bomber jacket enthusiast, how do

11:28

you go about picking your outfits

11:30

for the... I appreciate you saying

11:32

that because I recognize your bomber game

11:34

and your polo game. Thank you. And

11:36

I think that we're both similar that

11:39

way. Yeah. So I have we both

11:41

have beautiful bald heads. Yeah, yeah, actually

11:43

shaved. Yeah, sorry. Next Charlie Rose. Maybe

11:46

I'm trying to be the next Tom

11:48

Segura. Looks good. But you do put

11:50

thought into it, right? Yeah, I'm a

11:53

little sharp, dude. Yeah. Well, I'm a

11:55

uniform dresser. Like I think it's like

11:57

the same kind of kind of vibe.

12:00

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12:02

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12:04

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12:08

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12:10

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12:13

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12:15

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12:17

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12:19

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12:21

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12:23

fuck, man? Same with me, but it's just

12:26

because I'm not, I'm not shopping, but like

12:28

once I find a shape that I like

12:30

or a style that I like. Then you're

12:32

like, I'll just get more of those. Exactly.

12:34

Oh, they have it in kind of different

12:36

materials. Yeah, and you know, like I have

12:39

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12:41

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Sean. A Super Bowl commercial is a

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17:02

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17:04

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he's approaching this Uber eats commercial, you

17:08

know, like talking to the director, like,

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like, in real time, workshoping alt lines,

17:12

in it was like something that was

17:15

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17:19

that changed on the spot to be like

17:21

these wings deserve a team you know like

17:23

and then and then he's talking to the

17:25

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17:27

you know what if I'm like I look

17:29

over to Bill and I'm like you got

17:31

a good team names for Buffalo Bill Bill

17:33

you know he's like doing that he's like

17:35

you like that you like that I think

17:37

the director is just like yeah that sounds

17:39

good to me he's like Sean you like

17:41

that you like that you like that's the

17:43

one that's the one that's and then even

17:45

when he was sitting down you know he'd like

17:48

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17:50

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17:52

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17:54

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17:56

the motivation for his character to do his

17:58

character you know and And then I

18:01

think the reason that that commercial

18:03

works so well is because that's

18:05

how he'll attack every scene that

18:07

he does. And he gives a

18:09

shit. He really cares. He really

18:11

gives a shit. And it's kind

18:13

of inspiring to me because in

18:15

those situations, the only responsibility I'll

18:17

feel is like, I'll be like,

18:19

okay, just don't fuck up this

18:21

line. Yeah. Just hit my mark,

18:23

don't fuck up this line. But

18:25

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18:27

he approaches it. just kind of

18:30

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18:32

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18:36

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18:45

the lines let me just phone it in

18:47

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and take away And let's see.

19:00

As someone who's constantly on the move

19:02

flying for interviews, brand

19:05

deals, and the Hot One's Empire,

19:07

you've probably seen every possible version

19:09

of in-flight. madness. What are the

19:11

air travel pet peeves that drive

19:14

you? Absolutely insane. Are we talking

19:16

bare feet on the bulkhead? People

19:18

clapping when the plane lands or

19:20

something even more heinous? I think,

19:23

you know, part of the problem

19:25

is everybody who works at airports

19:27

is so burned out, you know,

19:29

and you can kind of tell

19:31

when you're going through a security

19:34

line, you know, and I'm like,

19:36

you know, just asked the TSA guys, like,

19:38

do laptops, like do laptops, like do laptops

19:40

come out? It's not that complicated like that,

19:43

but in my head. I'm like yeah, dude.

19:45

It is that fucking complicated It changes airport

19:47

to airport even in this airport. It changes

19:49

lane to lane like it is that complicated

19:52

So but it's just kind of that over

19:54

and over again Because then you go how

19:56

many times has like he's saying that because

19:59

he's been asked that I understand where

20:01

he's coming from. Of course, but he's

20:03

got to understand your position too, of

20:05

course. Exactly, so that's a problem. I

20:07

like to sleep on flights so pilots

20:10

that get super chatty and are like

20:12

telling you that you're flying over the

20:14

Grand Canyon and are going through like

20:16

humidity of your and wind speed of

20:19

your destination when you land and they're

20:21

really filling you in and they're really

20:23

filling you in that can kind of

20:25

stop also to they'll pipe up and

20:27

talk to you about deals that you

20:29

can get if you sign up for

20:31

the United Credit card and stuff like

20:33

that we got a great deal for

20:35

you guys 35% to me. Yes. So

20:37

as a food guy, because you're somebody

20:39

we associate with food. Yeah. It is

20:41

kind of crazy to be in an

20:43

enclosed space and people just bring all

20:46

this food sometimes food from home

20:48

that opens up and then you're like,

20:50

what the fuck is that? So I got

20:52

a bag of eggs. And you're like, that's

20:54

yeah, it's just. You couldn't have

20:56

eaten that at the gate man. You're

20:58

exposed to yeah, we're all animals and

21:01

you're really exposed to it when you're

21:03

at the airport. being treated like cattle,

21:05

hurt and onto these planes. And you

21:07

know what? Like I flew from

21:09

New York to Austin today, you

21:12

know? And it wasn't. It was

21:14

like one of those planes that's

21:16

like a Greyhound bus with wings,

21:18

you know? Sure. So I'm like,

21:21

you know, even if you get

21:23

like a first class ticket, it's

21:25

just like this, but I'm like,

21:27

is that a long enough flight

21:30

to get the pop down seats?

21:32

And like, where's the cutoff for

21:34

that? You know, where's the cutoff

21:36

for that? You see how long

21:39

somebody's planes have been in operation?

21:41

This thing's been here since like

21:43

91. And you're like, that's a fuck,

21:45

it's time. It's time, dude. You gotta

21:47

take this one out of commission. Yeah.

21:50

But I was in New Zealand last

21:52

year and I was flying back here.

21:54

I remember they pulled my bag out

21:56

of security and the guy, I

21:58

had the spray deodorant. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

22:01

And I go, the guy goes, can't

22:03

have this. And I go, I

22:05

can't have the deodorant.

22:08

And he was like, no,

22:10

it's too big. And I flew

22:12

with it here. And he

22:14

goes, and where'd you fly

22:17

from? Was it another

22:19

country? And I go, yeah,

22:21

he goes, this is another

22:23

country. And I go,

22:25

brilliant. What was that?

22:28

I go, brilliant. much I

22:30

think like I had one today aggressive yeah

22:32

aggressive and they're like I just got to

22:34

check your stomach and I was like that

22:36

was a little lower than my stuff you

22:39

know in front of everybody and the back

22:41

of the hand yeah back in the hands

22:43

against my nuts yeah I'm like against my

22:45

nuts yeah I'm like at least I don't

22:47

know to an audience of like 80 witnesses

22:49

yeah yeah and they're like what is that

22:52

you're just my fucking beanbag dude oh what

22:54

about this is one I'm curious about I'm

22:56

curious about I mean you guys

22:58

have had huge A-list celebrities

23:01

on your show. It's pretty

23:03

wild. How about after-show diems?

23:05

Have those gotten? Oh, you

23:07

know what? The DM's off the

23:10

top of my head, you know, I'm

23:12

sure there's been a bunch of them,

23:14

but like as you know, I think

23:16

like when you go through the hot

23:18

ones gauntlet, you kind of either become

23:21

friends for life like you and me,

23:23

you know, or this person never wants

23:25

to see me again, you know, it's

23:27

one of the other, yeah, like there's

23:29

no, middle ground, but like one of

23:32

my favorite moments is when we shot

23:34

with Dave Groll, he brought in a

23:36

bottle of Crown Royal, after the shoot,

23:38

we're out back in the alley. I don't

23:40

even smoke cigarettes. I was just chain smoking

23:42

with Dave Groll, you know, he's like, you

23:44

want a cigarette? And I'm like, yeah, exactly.

23:46

So we're just sitting back there, chat. Gotty

23:48

heroin? Yeah, sure. Like, let's party. And then

23:50

he goes, hey, I've got a premiere for

23:52

my movie tomorrow. Like you got to stick

23:54

around as supposed to get on a plane

23:56

and go back. And I kind of got

23:58

to stay so call. my team, I'm like,

24:01

is there any way that I

24:03

can just stay in LA? Go

24:05

to Dave's thing, you know? I'm

24:07

trying to be best friends with

24:09

Dave Girl right now. Yeah. And

24:11

they said yes? Yeah, they said

24:13

yes. They made it work. So

24:16

I stayed, went to the premiere

24:18

and then afterwards they had this

24:20

like friends and family food fighter

24:22

show. So I went and like

24:24

saw food fighters and like kind of

24:26

like an intimate shows of all time.

24:28

And at three o'clock this morning I

24:30

woke up and shit my fucking brains

24:33

out So this next song is dedicated

24:35

to Sean Evans He's in the audience

24:37

is like a movie like spotlight on

24:39

me. Well, I'm just standing there in

24:41

the audience and then he covered shame

24:43

and then in the course he'd be

24:46

like shame and then the course he'd

24:48

be like shame and they go shame

24:50

on you Sean and by the end

24:52

of this song like the whole crowd

24:54

is going shame on you Sean shame

24:56

on you Sean so this is the

24:58

best story because I remember there's,

25:00

and I think this is probably

25:02

a shared experience for a lot of

25:04

people that go on hot ones, you

25:07

have this built-in anxiety, right? When you're

25:09

like, hey, so, you know, you have

25:11

like a producer coming, like, what's this,

25:13

what's this, what are we, what are

25:15

we, what are we, what are we, what

25:17

are we, what are we, what are we,

25:20

what are we, what are we doing here?

25:22

You've, you've seen, you've seen, like, you've seen,

25:24

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

25:26

like, like, like, like, like, you're

25:28

doing it and then you're

25:30

like oh what's the later result

25:33

of this gonna be like

25:35

how upset am i gonna fucking

25:37

shit fire am i gonna

25:39

have emergency diarrhea like so

25:41

have you had like immediate

25:43

after taping things where

25:45

someone's like either notably

25:48

sick or like they're or

25:50

they're vocally upset about like

25:52

have you had people like

25:54

really be like what the

25:56

fuck the fuck Because by

25:58

the end, shocking it's usually a

26:01

very positive shoot experience. Like I

26:03

would imagine that these things would

26:05

go flying off the rails all

26:07

the time, you know, like if

26:09

you just look at it on

26:11

paper, but honestly like 95% of

26:13

the time it becomes, it's like.

26:15

they're happy they did it when

26:17

they're done, even if there's some

26:19

turbulence while we're going through the

26:21

thing. And I'm trying to think

26:23

if like anybody's had some sort

26:25

of meltdown or episode afterwards, but

26:27

at least by the cameras are

26:30

rolling and while I'm on set, you

26:32

know, it's I'm

26:34

ready for my life to change. ABC

26:36

Sundays, American Idol is all

26:38

new. Give it your all

26:40

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26:42

golden ticket. Let's hear it.

26:44

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26:46

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26:48

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radio.com. But overall, like, I

27:51

haven't been, like, the times that

27:53

I've been cursed out are like mostly

27:55

ingest on the show. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

27:57

yeah. I mean, I remember, like, for

27:59

me, I... I was like, oh, and then I

28:01

was like, oh, it's going to be,

28:03

thank God, there's wet wipes back in

28:06

the screen room. And then I was

28:08

like, oh, it wasn't that bad. But

28:10

then of course, I was like, yeah,

28:12

digestion takes a while. Yeah. So it's

28:15

later. And I do worry, because, you

28:17

know, like a lot of times people

28:19

are on a press tour or something

28:21

like that. So they're doing a day

28:24

of press in New York, and then

28:26

they're hoping I do think about

28:28

that. So you were you were raised in

28:30

Chicago. Mm-hmm. Have you heard people say it

28:32

like that? No, it's literally the first time

28:34

I've ever heard somebody say that. That's so

28:36

funny to me because I used to like

28:38

Christina used to be like, are you going

28:40

to Chicago? And I'm like, why are you saying

28:42

that? She's like, people say that. I got no

28:44

one says that. And then literally one of the

28:47

times like a morning she did that I went

28:49

to LAX and I'm walking through the United terminal

28:51

and I'm walking through the United Terminal. on

28:53

the mic and she goes flat 22

28:55

21 Chicago gate and I was like

28:57

holy shit somebody is fucking dumb enough

28:59

to say that so there are people

29:01

out there that are saying that the

29:03

wrong way but I do think I

29:05

was just in Chicago last weekend it

29:08

was fucking amazing and I always have

29:10

a good time when I go and

29:12

I gave them credit I go you're

29:14

incredible sports fans because you sell it

29:16

you have to deal with whatever you

29:18

get and you keep dealing with it

29:20

but you're a hardcore White Sox

29:22

guy, right? Yeah, you're

29:25

a Southsider. Yeah. So

29:27

if you were chiseling

29:29

out Mount Rushmore of

29:31

White Sox, greats. Yep,

29:34

okay. Who's making the

29:36

cut? And is there

29:38

any universe where Mark

29:40

Gural doesn't have a

29:42

spot on there? No, there's

29:45

not. So Mark Burley. Is

29:47

it Burley? Hey Mark, huge apologies.

29:50

Is he dead? Put him in

29:52

the Hall of Fame. No, he's

29:54

alive and kicking. Hey Mark Burley,

29:56

I got it right this time.

29:58

Okay. Mark Burley. is definitely on

30:00

there. He's probably my favorite white sock

30:02

of all time. And then, well, actually

30:05

maybe, no, Frank Thomas is my favorite,

30:07

but then Mark Burley, Frank Thomas, big.

30:09

Frank Thomas with the fucking T-pills? Yeah,

30:11

dude. My dog, yeah. Oh, dude, I

30:13

love them. He's like, I fucking take

30:15

my dicks hard all day. Yeah. So

30:17

Frank Thomas, Mark Burley. Frank Thomas is

30:20

a guy I'd like to watch fuck

30:22

someone like he's one of those guys

30:24

where you're like the big hurt the

30:26

big hurt the big hurt yeah yeah

30:28

the big hammer fuck yeah you know

30:30

that thing swings you know you know

30:32

back to your list sorry no please

30:35

no I just I've met some I've

30:37

told this before but I've met some

30:39

majorly baseball players I had no idea

30:41

they were like oh you know that

30:43

in throughout MLB on all teams Dominicans

30:45

shower separately like and I was like

30:47

and I was like no and they're

30:49

like oh yeah because they're wild and

30:52

they'll do shit like They're not gay,

30:54

but they'll come up in like culture.

30:56

They're like, they'll just slap their dicks

30:58

against each other and then we're like,

31:00

nah. So it's like Dominicans, they do

31:02

their own thing and then the rest

31:04

is. They're like, it feels like segregation.

31:07

They're like, well, it kind of is.

31:09

They're doing their fucking wild shit because

31:11

they're so sexually free. That's a, I

31:13

had no idea. That's interesting. The first

31:15

guy that told me, yeah, multiple people,

31:17

yeah, yeah, multiple people, yeah, multiple people,

31:19

and then I told the other people,

31:22

and then I told the other, and

31:24

then I told the other, and then

31:26

I told the other guy, and then

31:28

I told the other guy, and then

31:30

I told the other guy, he like,

31:32

he like, he like, he like, he

31:34

like, he like, he like, he like,

31:37

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

31:39

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

31:41

It's pretty interesting, yeah. And then you

31:43

go to the Dominican Republic and you're

31:45

like, you know, I get it. Yeah,

31:47

that checks out. Yeah. Oh, I have

31:49

two more spots, right? Yes. I'm gonna

31:51

put... But you had Burley, Frank Thomas.

31:54

I think I'm gonna put Aziji in

31:56

on there. Okay. And then I have

31:58

one more spot, which can be kind

32:00

of tough. And... You know what I'm

32:02

going to give it to there is

32:04

this blue collar workman center fielder that

32:06

I was obsessed with when I was

32:09

in high school named Aaron Rowan? Was

32:11

maybe not like the biggest name, but

32:13

he used to just crash into walls,

32:15

you know, like, uh, Just over the

32:17

shoulder going into the wall full force

32:19

But I always just loved the way

32:21

that he played in an honorable mention

32:24

to Scott Posecenic as well Wow, okay.

32:26

There you have it. It's official and

32:28

hopefully this will get built pretty soon

32:30

The way things are going you know

32:32

is crazy right because well first of

32:34

all if you have like you have

32:36

the bears which is like it's It

32:38

is crazy. I'll roll. I'll roll bulls.

32:41

You know you'll roll white socks season

32:43

into bear season, into bull season, and

32:45

it just goes on and on and

32:47

on and on and on and on

32:49

and like it's interesting that um you

32:51

know because I think with sports that's

32:53

always just gonna be this like joy

32:56

misery slot machine that you're playing all

32:58

of the time you know it is

33:00

and only one team is gonna win

33:02

a championship so I think the appetite

33:04

and enthusiasm that you can build for

33:06

a team is all about the ride

33:08

that they take you on that season

33:11

right a thousand percent so even if

33:13

you're you know a couple games out

33:15

of the wild card at the all-star

33:17

break like there's still something to follow

33:19

something to tune into and it's been

33:21

so frustrating for like the last decade

33:23

and dead on arrival before they even

33:26

start. And then there's no real sunlight

33:28

for how they get out of it.

33:30

You know, like there's, I'm not even

33:32

sure what I'm supposed to be looking

33:34

towards. It's so funny because I tell

33:36

this to people, so because you know,

33:38

there's people who are like, I don't

33:40

care about sports. And then there's like

33:43

kind of people who like casually watch

33:45

some things. I'm like, here's the thing

33:47

about it. that is there. Right. It's

33:49

like if you go, I don't care

33:51

whether they win or lose, it's like,

33:53

well, then you almost shouldn't just, you

33:55

just shouldn't watch, right? Like, the whole

33:58

thing about being a sports fan, I

34:00

mean, obviously some people take this to

34:02

an extreme and they're way too invested.

34:04

But the fun of getting behind a

34:06

team is that you care enough to

34:08

be miserable when they're down. So that

34:10

the, when they are great, the joy

34:13

is so much greater. That release, you

34:15

have to have the up and down.

34:17

And so, you know, a lot of

34:19

these things are, like I always watch

34:21

college football and like, it's, it is

34:23

cyclical. Like the teams will be great

34:25

and you're like, these guys are great

34:27

and then they'll have this downtime and

34:30

then the team that wasn't doing so

34:32

well and it comes back. But it

34:34

feels like, it usually belongs, it really

34:36

does belong to like 10 to 12

34:38

teams. like you know the other ones

34:40

really can't compete because they can't bring

34:42

in the recruits to that level in

34:45

the pros though you're like man some

34:47

of these windows where it's not good

34:49

is like a lifetime it's like decades

34:51

and to I always think about I

34:53

mean at the end of the day

34:55

that's that business is a nostalgia and

34:57

memories business yeah you know what I

35:00

mean so it's just been so flat

35:02

for so long that I wonder I'm

35:04

like Are they losing like an entire

35:06

generation of sports fans there? You know

35:08

what I mean? Like, I think about

35:10

that sometimes. Well, if you're a kid

35:12

who was born, like say in Chicago,

35:15

I don't know, 15, 20 years ago,

35:17

you haven't experienced the highs. Really? It's

35:19

a couple moments. Well, if you're a

35:21

Blackhawks fan, you've had some big time.

35:23

But like, they don't know what the

35:25

Bulls thing was like. Right. They've just

35:27

like heard about it. wild. Like it

35:29

was a given they're gonna dominate, you

35:32

know, that's how I that's how I

35:34

actually thought of them when I was

35:36

a kid. Like the first time I

35:38

ever saw adults behaving bizarrely was during

35:40

those Eastern Conference playoff matchups between the

35:42

Bulls and the Knicks. Yeah. No, that

35:44

was the first time that I'd see

35:47

my dad, you know, screaming swear words

35:49

at the TV, you know, and I'm

35:51

like, why is he freaking out? They

35:53

win all the time. I'm like, they

35:55

win all the time. I thought it

35:57

was like a Harlem Globe Traitors thing,

35:59

you know? So I'm like, why are

36:02

all the adults in the room like

36:04

screaming at the TV and acting like

36:06

something's at stake here? Like they always

36:08

win. So even that, I didn't even

36:10

really enjoy it. is doing well and

36:12

then they're cocky. And you're like, yeah,

36:14

it's not you, like you didn't do

36:17

this, but they're like, fuck you guys,

36:19

like it's my shit, you have nothing

36:21

to do with this. But like they

36:23

adopt the arrogance and they're like, I

36:25

would just like a chance to adopt

36:27

that arrogance for a like to have

36:29

no idea what that's even like. It

36:31

feels like just on that whole cyclical

36:34

thing that like the bears would have

36:36

to be due at some point. I

36:38

mean, you know I'm gonna ride it

36:40

out with Caleb and see what happens

36:42

and the NFL is much more of

36:44

a parody league which is why it's

36:46

kind of like bizarre that they haven't

36:49

been able to crack that code or

36:51

solve that Rubik's Cube like at least

36:53

a little bit recently but there is

36:55

a thing about the NFL too that

36:57

like you just notice over time and

36:59

you go how can this be but

37:01

it is true there are organizations that

37:04

understand winning more. You know what I

37:06

mean? You're like, that's weird. They all

37:08

have like money and like they should

37:10

not, but like, you know, you look

37:12

at like the Steelers and you're like,

37:14

yeah, this organization understands going after winning.

37:16

Yeah. Like they're doing it decade after

37:18

decade. Right. And then there are like

37:21

these handful of like silly teams, you

37:23

know, like the jets are like the

37:25

Bears of the Jaguars or whatever, you

37:27

know what I mean? Where it's just

37:29

like, yeah. Yeah, I'm from Cincinnati dude.

37:31

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I understand. I

37:33

understand. that the president of operations pays

37:36

himself 35 million a year there. For

37:38

real. Mike Brown's like, that's my salary.

37:40

This is not about winning. This is

37:42

about you being like, this is pretty

37:44

cool. This is a fucking. He runs

37:46

it like it's a hotel and he's

37:48

like, yeah, it's full. So, yeah, they're

37:51

not going anyway. I don't care. I

37:53

don't give a shit. So, for this

37:55

next question, shit in your pants, and

37:57

then sit there and deal with it.

37:59

Now, just tell me if it affects

38:01

your answer. Yeah, yeah. You've been known

38:03

for asking hard hitting questions, and now

38:06

it's time for the real question. Do

38:08

you believe in Sasquatch? Are you full

38:10

of this is all nonsense, or do

38:12

you lean more? I do. I don't

38:14

not believe when it comes to them.

38:16

And if we put you out in

38:18

the Pacific Northwest with night vision goggles

38:20

and a GoPro, do you think you'd

38:23

make a compelling case one way or

38:25

the other? Great quote. I loved this

38:27

parody of me, by the way. What

38:29

are you talking about? I was like,

38:31

just fucking write some things down for

38:33

me. So. I'm obsessed with the idea

38:35

of Sasquatch. I don't believe that like

38:38

Bigfoot's actually walking around there, but I

38:40

would love to go out and do

38:42

one of those hunts. You know, like,

38:44

that sounds fun. There was this Sasquatch

38:46

show that I used to watch all

38:48

the time, you know, and it was

38:50

this Sasquatch show that I used to

38:53

watch all the time, you know, and

38:55

it was just kind of like, simmering

38:57

resentments amongst the group there. But I

38:59

think, I like the idea of it.

39:01

You know, I like the idea of

39:03

a Loch Ness monster. Yeah, as a

39:05

kid, that was a really exciting one.

39:07

And I never, I never developed out

39:10

of that. thing of like things. So

39:12

do you love UFO things and like

39:14

alien landings? Well, I'm I'm less compelled

39:16

by that than like creatures walking amongst

39:18

us. So that's your that's the lane

39:20

you like the most. Yeah, like a

39:22

mythical beast amongst us. Okay, that's have

39:25

so many alien friends, you know, yeah,

39:27

but that's because that's the thing I

39:29

just can't hang with them. You know

39:31

what I mean? Because people are into

39:33

aliens. One of my super in aliens.

39:35

Like check. I think those are birds.

39:37

That's not a bird. You're like, he's

39:40

just like, look at him. I was

39:42

crazy. You fucking shot that? You're like,

39:44

all right, dude, I don't know. Are

39:46

you, do you believe in the moon

39:48

landing? Yeah, I'm going to go with

39:50

the moon, I'm going to believe in

39:52

the moon, I'm going to believe in

39:55

the moon landing. But there was a

39:57

hesitation there. Well, you guys, as this

39:59

continues, please. these prep all get all

40:01

the Bryce stuff ready for us just

40:03

so I can show him like all

40:05

three just I just want to show

40:08

you yeah yeah evidence well there's other

40:10

voices out there a lot of people

40:12

want to realize this but the Margaret

40:14

Herrick library is kind of like the

40:17

holy grail for film nerds and a

40:19

place where you can find original scripts

40:21

production notes Hollywood history that feels too

40:24

sacred to be touched You had the

40:26

chance to do interviews there leading up

40:28

to the Oscars. What is the coolest,

40:31

weirdest, or most unexpected thing you

40:33

stumbled on? And did you actually

40:35

end up with like, whoa, like

40:37

this is actually here? Yeah. Well,

40:39

they have tons of cool stuff.

40:41

So yeah, I did a series

40:43

of interviews over there. The coolest

40:45

thing that they have, or the

40:47

coolest thing that I saw at

40:49

least, they have Quint and Tarant's

40:51

handwritten pulp fiction script.

40:54

a poem or a song? No, you write it by hand.

40:56

He writes all of his, his scripts are handwritten and

40:58

then he gives it to somebody to type up. I

41:00

thumbed through it. It's in a three ring binder just on

41:02

notebook paper. But is it written? Film style? Like is it

41:05

script style? Yeah, it looks like a script. So it's like

41:07

exterior. Yeah, and even sort of, even in the way that

41:09

he's writing, it's like in the center of the page. Like,

41:11

like, kind of like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

41:13

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

41:16

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

41:18

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

41:20

like, Yeah, it was cool to see

41:22

his handwriting and like all the

41:24

dialogue is almost like exactly the

41:26

same, but it was interesting to

41:28

see that some of the characters

41:30

names were different, you know, going

41:32

through, but that was the coolest

41:34

thing that I saw, but they

41:36

have tons of cool stuff there.

41:38

It was kind of an amazing

41:40

thing to just go through the

41:42

archives. Another awesome thing. Was it

41:45

fun to see handwritten nwords, not

41:47

from a friend? Yeah. Yeah. This

41:49

is Hollywood Lord. Yeah. History right

41:52

here. Oh, here's another one. And

41:54

another one. Another one. Almost every

41:56

page. And then another cool thing

41:58

that I saw. is they have you

42:00

know just these pages of like casting

42:02

notes you know so you can see

42:04

like all these people that were auditioning

42:07

for thing then like sometimes it'll be

42:09

like kind of mean notes next to

42:11

it like not believable you know like

42:13

you see all that oh yeah yeah

42:15

can anyone access this or no this

42:17

is like I don't know maybe some

42:19

of the things that I was in

42:21

or like under it but it's a

42:23

library that's open and it's awesome I

42:26

really wish I could just write interviews

42:28

I a couple days ago. And

42:30

I was like, I want to

42:32

know if this is me or

42:34

if this feels genuine, like more

42:36

true. I feel like, like the

42:38

Oscars just recently happened. Right. I

42:40

was like, you know, I just

42:42

feel like it used to be

42:44

more of a cultural national

42:47

event, almost like a Super

42:49

Bowl of sorts. And I'm like,

42:51

am I sensing like something changing

42:54

legitimately or is it that

42:56

like me personally? Am I

42:58

just more removed and less interested?

43:00

I get both parts of it

43:02

because, you know, I always assume

43:05

that any movie that I bought

43:07

a ticket to and watched blew

43:09

up at the box office. And

43:11

any movie that I didn't buy

43:13

a ticket to and watched bombed

43:15

at the box office. Right. You

43:17

know, I think that it is

43:19

part of that. Like, oh, the

43:21

things that I engage with. don't

43:24

matter. Yeah, like the Oscars, like I was

43:26

like, I don't know. Yeah, so I think

43:28

that that's part of it. But I think

43:30

just holistically, like when you look at entertainment

43:32

in general, like if you just look at

43:34

like the last couple years, the ways that

43:37

movies are, you know, everything is just kind

43:39

of becoming more fragmented. Yeah. When you just

43:41

look at the whole thing. There's massive movies

43:43

and then there's everything is like small. There's

43:45

not like the in-between really it feels like,

43:47

right? Like, yeah. And too, I think, you

43:49

know, like the things that go straight to

43:52

streaming, you know, like there's always just these

43:54

things that are coming at you all of

43:56

the time. So to have real cultural penetration

43:58

anymore is just really hard. I think like

44:00

the Super Bowl is kind of the last

44:02

thing that we share as a culture. You

44:04

know what I mean? I think everything

44:07

else has become sort of fragmented.

44:09

I wonder what like Oscar viewership

44:12

was like this year versus like 1995.

44:14

Yeah, right. I wonder if it's dramatically

44:16

different. Would you look that up

44:18

like what they are those two

44:20

years? Because I I do wonder

44:23

like is it is it dramatically

44:25

different where there's like because the

44:27

other thing is like you like I hear about.

44:29

And it kind of, I guess it kind of

44:31

makes sense, is that NBA viewership is way down.

44:33

Yeah, that, yeah, and that makes sense to me

44:35

too, but like when you think about it... There's

44:37

also in the times that we're living in

44:39

where you can just catch the clips the

44:41

next day You're like oh well the cream

44:43

will rise to the top and anything that's

44:46

worth talking about will reach me in some

44:48

other form whether it's like right You know

44:50

something that I see highlights basically Yeah, the

44:52

highlights are always delivered to you and I

44:54

think that's the same with oh same with

44:56

sports. I'm not wrong about no I mean

44:58

a degree this thing says how did the

45:01

Oscars go from 43 million to 15 million

45:03

viewers in just eight years in just eight

45:05

years? Yeah that is that's a that's

45:07

a dramatic that's not decreased yeah

45:09

yeah so it's not no I think

45:11

that all the I think that

45:14

that's right I'm interested I'm reading

45:16

kind of the things that they have

45:18

yeah I just it's just it's like

45:20

this thing you sense without like

45:22

having looked up that number you

45:24

just feel like I don't know like

45:26

almost like in even though I like

45:28

I work in entertainment as you go

45:30

like yeah people aren't like oh my

45:32

god the Oscars yeah but I think

45:35

maybe just about That kind

45:37

of breakthrough in a way that there

45:39

used to be in the 90s, you

45:41

know when and they used to nominate

45:43

less people For each category, which

45:45

I think makes it feel like harder

45:47

to get in that conversation So

45:50

it becomes more exclusive in other

45:52

words. Yeah, they're like wasn't like

45:54

three nominees for like the big

45:56

ones right right right and now

45:58

there's 10 like and I would like

46:00

to see, I mean this is just like a

46:02

dumb guy just talking out of his

46:05

ass about like one of the

46:07

most prestigious cultural institutions and all

46:09

of entertainment, but I do think

46:11

that Best Picture is just going

46:14

to naturally lean towards the dramas

46:16

more and more, you know? So

46:18

I would like to see in some

46:20

way Excellence awarded in the action

46:22

category or like maybe there is

46:25

some ways that. we can throw a

46:27

little red meat out there with

46:29

these sorts of things in a

46:31

way that doesn't totally tank the

46:33

prestige of the event or you

46:35

know I grew up as a

46:37

comedy lover you know yeah there

46:40

are so few theatrical comedies that

46:42

are released and made and but

46:44

they also never celebrated those you

46:46

know like yeah the really good ones

46:48

like to me kingpin is like a

46:51

best picture nominee you know what I

46:53

mean it's just but the things that

46:55

we saw Jim Kerry and like

46:57

Eddie Murphy Bill Murray in comedies

47:00

like in just straight

47:02

comedies you go that the

47:04

movie doesn't exist without that

47:06

person in it right wouldn't

47:09

work right so yeah, so

47:11

I think maybe that but you

47:13

know who knows Yeah, all right.

47:15

So we have these things that

47:17

straight so Bryce Mitchell you have

47:19

C fighter comes on the scene

47:22

you have these going through the

47:24

speaker For us. Yeah. Okay. So

47:26

this is like his episode one

47:28

of his podcast coming

47:30

out hot comes out hot

47:32

Hitler hell in the Nazis I

47:35

really don't think that he was

47:37

because I honestly think that Hitler

47:39

was a good guy based upon

47:41

my own research, not my public

47:43

education in Dr. Nation. He's faced

47:45

with it. I feel for that

47:47

call. Yeah, he's like, this is

47:49

how I was starting with. He

47:51

fought for his country. He wanted

47:53

to purify it by kicking the

47:55

greedy Jews out that were destroying

47:57

his country and turn them all in the

47:59

gaze. He gets all the notes, right?

48:01

He's like, and this is my

48:03

show. This is episode one. This

48:06

is episode one. You know what

48:08

our first trainy surgery ever was?

48:10

Happened to be in Germany before

48:12

Hitler took over. You know the

48:14

books that everybody makes fun of

48:17

Hitler Barney. You know what the

48:19

books was? Queer books. He gets

48:21

all the notes, right? He's like,

48:23

and this is my show. This

48:25

is episode one. People go absolutely.

48:27

Rightfully, Dana White, because he's

48:30

a UFC fighter, was like, this

48:32

guy's a fucking moron. Right. He

48:34

comes out, and he's like, he's

48:37

the dumbest person we've ever had

48:39

the pleasure of hiring? Yeah, yeah,

48:41

yeah. And he's like, hopefully people

48:43

will just watch and fight to

48:46

get someone, see someone beat this

48:48

shit. Yeah. And then you're like,

48:50

I guess this guy's not going

48:52

to make content anymore. Yeah, did

48:54

he make an episode too? You

48:56

know. Other things to say

48:59

and everybody is just totally talking

49:01

shit about me because of how stupid

49:03

I am Let me explain myself a

49:05

little bit better because this is what

49:07

I meant by what I said And

49:10

I think nobody's gonna disagree once I

49:12

explain it I stated that you can

49:14

prove the earth don't rotate because you

49:16

can take a helicopter Povered 20,000

49:19

feet for 24 hours and come back down

49:21

in the same spot that everybody said

49:23

oh a helicopter has inertia I

49:25

know what inertia is, dude. I'm

49:27

not stupid. Let me tell you

49:30

what I mean. Here is a picture

49:32

of the circle of the earth,

49:34

supposedly, if you believe in

49:36

a globe. And the red

49:38

circle is the helicopter. When

49:40

the helicopter extends above the

49:42

earth's surface, it now has

49:44

a larger flight path around

49:46

the earth. As in when

49:48

the earth, the inside circle,

49:50

the black circle, does one

49:52

full rotation. the red circle

49:55

or the flight of the

49:57

helicopter actually has to cover

49:59

more distance. is that when something

50:01

you that you see somebody who has

50:03

multiple cool opinions you know I mean

50:05

so like that that you're like who the

50:07

fuck is like I'd like to go fishing

50:09

with Hitler it's the same guy who's like

50:11

hey man if you take a chopper up

50:14

in the air you know look at this

50:16

it's not gonna land in the same spot

50:18

or it is and that means that the

50:20

earth don't spin you're like I got it

50:22

And then he also goes into, I don't

50:24

know, he's also not. Is your issue with

50:26

seat belts? Seat belts, I think it's just

50:28

like you get to choose if you want

50:30

to wear a seat belt, the government doesn't,

50:32

you know, they don't wipe my ass for

50:34

me and they shouldn't be able to

50:36

tell me if I want to wear

50:39

a seat belt, the government doesn't, you

50:41

know, they don't wipe my ass for

50:43

me and they shouldn't, so I don't

50:45

personally wear a seat belt, but I

50:47

grew up, my mom never wore one.

50:49

I just don't believe this though. It's

50:51

not up to the government to decide.

50:54

Crazy about not wearing a seat

50:56

belt is the god damn ding and

50:58

like the ding ding ding like the

51:00

fucking car tells you put that mother.

51:02

So like I have been like driven

51:04

by like a car service right right

51:06

right some psycho fucking you know dude

51:08

who's just up there and you're like

51:11

ding and you're like hey man are

51:13

you gonna can we stop the ding

51:15

and you see the guy like. I

51:17

got to put it. So that means

51:19

that guy drives around all day with

51:21

it ding. Like when the battery goes.

51:23

Yeah, like that doesn't bother you.

51:25

Yeah, it doesn't drive you

51:27

completely insane. Some guy drove us

51:29

on the road a few weeks ago and

51:32

we were all looking around like, is this

51:34

really happening? Where he had, you know,

51:36

when you have the radio on and

51:38

you don't find a station and

51:40

it's just static? Yeah, yeah. Just that.

51:43

We were like, don't say anything. Don't

51:45

say anything. and then we just kept

51:47

driving and shh the whole time like

51:49

white noise. I was like this is

51:51

what you cruise around with just static

51:53

in your ear all day and he's

51:55

just like again fine this is good

51:57

soothe of me to drive and this

51:59

guy Wherever he goes, ding, ding,

52:01

ding, every 20 seconds. And then

52:04

he's just sitting there like, which

52:06

I was fishing with Hitler right

52:08

now, just fucking. He's kind of

52:10

a performance artist though. You know,

52:12

like this could almost be like

52:14

a performance art. It is a good

52:16

lane for like W. E. Like his

52:18

healed. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If he was

52:20

like trying to be like, make me

52:23

the villain, I'll just. Open up with

52:25

Hitler would be cool to hang with

52:27

Like and they're like all right like

52:29

everyone's gonna know your name right right

52:31

and then he's gonna double and triple

52:33

down After that, but he's got It's

52:35

got lots of thoughts so many thoughts

52:37

The funny thing is what I love

52:39

when somebody actually has opinions And

52:42

then he, in his mind,

52:44

he has great supporting arguments.

52:46

Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

52:48

actually kind of my favorite

52:51

part about it. Yeah, yeah.

52:53

And you're like, yeah, that's

52:55

how I came to this.

52:58

You're like, yeah, no, that's

53:00

fucking good, man. And I like,

53:02

I like even two his like,

53:04

this is like, this is what I

53:07

meant to say, but I'll be like,

53:09

you know, you meant that. Yeah, yeah.

53:11

He frowned face. He was like,

53:13

this is episode one, dude.

53:15

Frozen. Like you said this was

53:17

gonna be fun when you got

53:19

me to do this with you.

53:21

Like, you just dragged me into

53:23

some shit that I don't want

53:25

to be a part of now. Like,

53:28

I'm gonna get so many

53:30

fucking calls after this. Listen,

53:32

that's the plate of co-hosting

53:34

on a podcast, you

53:36

know? Oh my God. What about

53:38

a Chicago pizza question. Sure. Chicago's

53:41

known for Deep Dish. It's like the

53:43

Chicago style pizza. Yet you live most

53:45

of the time in New York. She's

53:47

known for a completely different

53:49

style of pizza. Are you going to

53:52

be a diplomat or are you going to

53:54

choose a side? No, here's what I'll say.

53:56

Pizza is amazing in any form. I

53:58

love Detroit style pizza. I love a

54:00

pub pizza. I love the classic New

54:02

York slice. It's always good. But I

54:04

will say this, you know, like sometimes

54:07

people make fun of deep dish pizza

54:09

or call it a tourist thing or

54:11

think it's, you know, people have strong

54:13

opinions on deep dish pizza. But being

54:15

away from Chicago, I crave it. Every

54:17

time I go back, I always have

54:19

to eat it because nobody else really

54:22

does it. So I have to get,

54:24

you know, like a Lumal Nadi's with

54:26

sausage and green pepper like I really

54:28

do love. deep-dish pizza and miss it

54:30

quite a bit. So I don't know

54:32

this landscape, but like, is any place

54:35

that serves pizza in Chicago kind of

54:37

required to do deep? Like, do they

54:39

all do it? No, no, there's a,

54:41

just like a handful of places that

54:43

do it. And all have different places

54:46

that do it. And all have different

54:48

origin stories and claim that they invent

54:50

today. Like, I could actually just really

54:52

go for a slice right now,

54:54

actually. Yeah, I wish we had

54:57

pizza right now too. pepperoni? I

54:59

like a sausage green pepper. Oh

55:01

sausage green pepper. Sausage green pepper.

55:03

Yeah. You went to broadcast

55:05

journalism school that track.

55:07

Yep. And a professor suggested you

55:09

should be a weatherman. Do you

55:12

ever imagine? I hear's the thing

55:14

hearing that. I go, oh he would

55:16

have been great at that. Yeah. Yeah, well

55:18

you're a good presenter and I think you

55:20

would have been, you know, information, a little

55:22

wink and a smile. Yeah, yeah. Right? And

55:24

they always have like little quips or jokes.

55:27

You would have developed your sense of that

55:29

and then there'd probably be like a... like

55:31

an IG fan page of like what's Sean's

55:33

bomber jacket like today or whatever right for

55:35

the weather guy or like I want to

55:37

fuck the weather guy or something like that

55:39

you would have you would have had some

55:42

like super fan some moms at home who

55:44

were like honey get out the door I

55:46

want to watch the weather and I think

55:48

being like a regional celebrity in like a

55:50

smaller market would be awesome awesome awesome awesome

55:53

yeah so but no I always thanks for

55:55

saying all of that um yeah I think

55:57

you know weather is challenging we always in

55:59

the final broadcast journalism classes, one of

56:02

those things where. students would just

56:04

rotate. So you'd be the anchor

56:06

one day, you'd be the sports

56:08

guy the next week, then you'd

56:10

direct, then you'd be on camera,

56:13

then you'd do weather, all of

56:15

these different things. And people used

56:17

to fold with weather because you

56:19

have no teleprompter, you're going to

56:22

off-green screen, because you have no

56:24

teleprompter, you're off-green screen, you're going

56:26

through the clicker, you're going to

56:28

fold with weather, because you have

56:30

no teleprompter, weather though? No, I know

56:32

and I'm you know and I'm not

56:34

even like really that uh... I was

56:36

never that great a science student either,

56:38

so it was going to be an

56:40

uphill battle in order to get there.

56:43

But you like the presentation aspect of

56:45

it, right? I like the presentation aspect

56:47

of it, and you just have to

56:49

think about when your broadcast journal is

56:51

major, there's a part of you that

56:53

maybe thinks that you're a broadcast journalism

56:55

major, there's a part of you that

56:57

maybe thinks that you can be on

56:59

TV, but it's not like majoring in an

57:01

you can be on TV, so that's a

57:03

thought that I had for a little bit.

57:05

But thankfully I didn't pursue it too

57:08

hard, but maybe I should, you

57:10

know, like I'm just thinking about

57:12

being like a regional celebrity, a

57:14

mid or small market, you know,

57:17

be sick. So sick. Because all

57:19

the, I lived in LA 20

57:21

years, and that's not like small

57:24

market, but all the local news

57:26

people are like very, they're

57:28

beloved there. Exactly. I remember

57:30

Dallas rains. That's made for

57:33

local news. That's made for

57:35

look. Look at that smile,

57:37

bro. Oh, that is. And they always

57:39

have like a lot of them, you know,

57:41

like appearance is obviously a big

57:44

thing. He's also in the LA market,

57:46

but it's like, you know, the hair,

57:48

the veneers, the tan. I mean, I

57:50

know it's a bygone era. You know,

57:52

he's kind of like the last of

57:54

a dying breed, but that's

57:56

an important subculture of

57:59

broadcasting. like 40 years ago in

58:01

the in the headshot yeah the

58:03

the signed one I think that's

58:06

him incredible probably came

58:08

out to try to be an actor always

58:10

yeah same with porn like they

58:12

everybody goes like I'm here to

58:14

act and then someone's like hey

58:16

what do you think of $300

58:19

to show your ass hole and

58:21

they're like I kind of fell

58:23

into this you're like yeah I

58:25

know I've watched that fuck it

58:27

that porn doc on Netflix And

58:29

they have this fucking, it's so

58:32

fucked up. But they're like, hey,

58:34

if, they're like, what are you

58:36

getting paid today? And this girl's

58:38

like, I don't know, like it

58:40

was like $500. And then the

58:42

guys like, and then she goes,

58:44

but they offered me another 100

58:47

for a cream pie, like to finish

58:49

inside of me? But then she goes,

58:51

I gotta buy the, I gotta buy

58:53

the plan B pill. Which is

58:55

which is 40 was 40 at

58:58

the time and she goes, but

59:00

that's 60 bucks in my pocket

59:02

I'm like yeah, that's not a

59:04

lot to say come inside to

59:06

me like yeah, but you got

59:08

60 more dollars 60 bucks is

59:10

60 bucks But for sure local

59:12

weather is like a byproduct

59:14

of failed auditions a

59:16

rough pilot season. I think

59:18

anything you end up doing with

59:21

a camera anywhere is like I

59:23

was trying to act Yeah, like

59:25

anything like everybody was like

59:27

I was trying to act and

59:29

then I ended up doing weather Yeah,

59:31

now I'm just telling you it's fucking

59:34

breezy today. Yeah, but I do think

59:36

it's kind of cool The weather the

59:38

weather track is kind of into you

59:40

know, like Letterman started it as

59:43

a weatherman too really yeah, I forget

59:45

that I also loved this is like a

59:47

I mean not that it doesn't exist

59:50

anymore. Is that him? Yeah, look

59:52

at that and I think he got fired

59:54

This is maybe Lord Lost

59:56

in time because he congratulated

59:58

a tropical storm. on being

1:00:00

upgraded to a hurricane. You know, it's like

1:00:02

a very letterment joke, you know? Funny. That

1:00:04

is so funny. We're under a flash flood warning,

1:00:06

but all of that seems of a little

1:00:09

importance once you take a look at the

1:00:11

cloud cover photograph made earlier of the United

1:00:13

States today. And I think you'll see that

1:00:16

once again we've fallen to the prey of

1:00:18

political dirty dealings. And right now you can

1:00:20

see what I'm talking about. The higher ups

1:00:22

have removed the border between Indiana and Ohio,

1:00:25

making it one giant state. Personally, I'm against

1:00:27

it. And they're laughing on that. I don't

1:00:29

know what to do about it. I mean,

1:00:32

that's awesome. That's so awesome. Yeah. And there's

1:00:34

also, that to me speaks to also

1:00:36

the audience at home, where there's

1:00:38

people dying laughing at that, and then

1:00:40

there's people being like, the fuck's this

1:00:43

guy doing? Like, they're totally confused. Why

1:00:45

is he talking about a border?

1:00:47

Like, did they really? Like questioning

1:00:49

that it's real, like questioning that

1:00:51

it's real, like questioning that it's

1:00:53

real. Style you know and his irreverence,

1:00:56

you know towards being a what you

1:00:58

know, he's probably Bitter about

1:01:00

doing the weather, you know, and then

1:01:02

that's coming out Yeah, presentation, you know,

1:01:05

he's the best he is the best

1:01:07

dude. That's so fucking funny. I also

1:01:09

miss I I have I guess it's

1:01:11

a nostalgia thing the what the

1:01:14

national news guys were when I was

1:01:16

growing up like it was Peter Jennings

1:01:18

Dan rather Tom Broco. Mm-hmm-hmm and

1:01:20

like I really Missed those guys?

1:01:22

I loved those guys. I loved

1:01:24

like their their presentation of really

1:01:27

prompter just if it was

1:01:29

like comforting of me. Classic newsmen. Classic

1:01:31

newsmen. I liked it. We still have

1:01:33

I guess a little bit. Yeah, but

1:01:35

not like that. Not like that. Not

1:01:38

like that. There's also it's like there's

1:01:40

something to be sad about just old

1:01:42

white guys making you feel like everything's

1:01:44

okay. You know, they don't they don't

1:01:47

hire them anymore. Poor guys. And

1:01:49

the news isn't a let you

1:01:51

know everything's okay kind of business

1:01:54

anymore either. It's totally, people don't

1:01:56

understand that like you want to

1:01:58

rogue? Sure, yeah, yeah. That

1:02:00

I've mentioned that I remember

1:02:02

like going through the transition

1:02:05

from news is just something

1:02:07

that's read where they're like

1:02:09

here's what's happening in Somalia

1:02:11

today and you're like okay

1:02:14

to It was what I remember

1:02:16

specifically is CNN the first time

1:02:18

I was like I remember like

1:02:20

going through it and it was

1:02:22

Anderson Cooper, but he's like ageless

1:02:25

or something. It might have been

1:02:27

50 years ago, but It was like,

1:02:29

it was Anderson Cooper. And then he,

1:02:31

like, he said something that was happening

1:02:33

and he was like, he like

1:02:35

commented on it and I was like,

1:02:37

what the fuck? Like, is that so weird?

1:02:40

And he was like, yeah, it's not so,

1:02:42

I personally think that's a bet. I'm like,

1:02:44

why is he fucking doing this? Right, right.

1:02:46

But then you realize that he was doing

1:02:49

it because the cult, like he wasn't like

1:02:51

the only one doing it, but it was

1:02:53

slowly happening, like Fox was started to do

1:02:55

it, like, like, like, like, like, like, Like,

1:02:58

oh, this is the person who's gonna say

1:03:00

what I want and I'm gonna say. Right.

1:03:02

And then that'll make me feel good because

1:03:04

they're sharing the opinion. But those guys were

1:03:07

just like, here's the thing. Yeah, yeah. But

1:03:09

that's I think like when, you know,

1:03:11

sort of like the classically trained school

1:03:13

versus, you know, in a lot of ways,

1:03:15

entertainment is just what we want reflected

1:03:17

back at us. You know what I

1:03:19

mean? And then at some point, yeah,

1:03:21

like somebody was like. rolling through and

1:03:23

being like well this is you know

1:03:25

what holds our audience you know like

1:03:27

this is the watch time they're just

1:03:29

like looking at the that's definitely and

1:03:31

then just cranking the other side and

1:03:33

what happened too was that when Fox

1:03:36

did it they were doing it first where they

1:03:38

were like they're gonna look this way

1:03:40

they're gonna they're gonna take this angle

1:03:42

and their numbers went through the roof

1:03:44

right and so everybody else was like

1:03:46

uh we gotta do the opposite like

1:03:48

do something to to get the other

1:03:51

people because they're killing us This is maybe

1:03:53

a fun thought exercise. But as you

1:03:55

know, the market swings, the pendulum swings

1:03:57

in the other direction, do you think

1:03:59

there's a market? opportunity for a classic

1:04:02

newsman to like take over in

1:04:04

these times or is that just

1:04:06

dead? I think I don't know

1:04:08

I keep saying this about things

1:04:10

that like everything seems cyclical but

1:04:12

it feels like you know it feels

1:04:14

like in my lifetime nothing's ever

1:04:16

been more split where people are

1:04:19

just so adamantly against the

1:04:21

others and like what they need is someone

1:04:23

to go like hey Like how about I'll

1:04:25

just tell you a calming brocaw? I'll tell

1:04:27

you with a steady hand. I'll just tell

1:04:30

you what's happening And they're like yeah, fucking

1:04:32

tell me what's happening and like that person

1:04:34

it it feels like there would be a

1:04:36

market for them You know, that's I'm just looking

1:04:38

at Yeah, white space in the market there,

1:04:40

you know, there's I'm like wondering But

1:04:42

then like I go I thought that

1:04:44

already wasn't like PBS doing that and

1:04:46

then I don't know when I said that

1:04:49

last time somebody was like no fucking

1:04:51

PBS is not doing that I was

1:04:53

like oh okay sorry like you can't

1:04:55

you know everybody gets upset about it's

1:04:57

so funny because if you say

1:04:59

something that like certain groups agree

1:05:01

with immediately you're bombarded with

1:05:03

like you fucking get it smart guy

1:05:06

you're like oh okay and then the

1:05:08

second you say the thing that they

1:05:10

don't it's just Vichre, like it's just

1:05:13

so much hatred of like, fucking idiot.

1:05:15

And you're like, okay. So, I mean, I

1:05:17

guess I should, you just can't look for

1:05:19

validation in comments. No, that's a bad idea.

1:05:22

It's a bad idea. But it is, like,

1:05:24

it's still, I feel like the split could

1:05:26

not be wider and stronger. And

1:05:28

just, yeah, always growing more intense.

1:05:31

Right? And I don't know if it's like

1:05:33

a old guy thing, but it doesn't, to

1:05:35

my memory, I don't feel like it was

1:05:37

like it. No, I mean, maybe this

1:05:39

is just me being an old

1:05:41

guy, but sometimes you just feel

1:05:44

like like the 90s was like

1:05:46

the last message of that and

1:05:48

then it just started to

1:05:50

tip tip. Yeah, yeah, and it's

1:05:53

all because of... I don't know

1:05:55

what it's from. I don't know.

1:05:57

That was a bad day. It

1:05:59

didn't really... It was a

1:06:01

controlled demolition! I don't know.

1:06:03

Somebody's real happy I said

1:06:05

that though. They're like, he

1:06:07

finally gets it. He gets

1:06:09

it. He gets it. Oh

1:06:11

really? Do buildings just fall

1:06:13

like that? Really? George Bush

1:06:16

and his friends. They went

1:06:18

in there the night before. And

1:06:20

they set dynamite inside

1:06:22

and just fucking fell. The

1:06:24

signs are there all along. They

1:06:26

were always there. The planes are

1:06:28

just a little thing on the

1:06:30

side just to get you distracted.

1:06:32

Anyway, we're gonna we're gonna make

1:06:34

the news on this one. We

1:06:36

hit a lot of cool topics.

1:06:38

Fingers cross. That's really gonna help.

1:06:40

It's gonna help sauce sales for

1:06:42

sure. They're like, yeah, it's a pleasure

1:06:45

dog. Hey, look, in your defense, you

1:06:47

didn't do anything wrong. It was all. our

1:06:49

side. Yeah I was just like I was

1:06:51

just the guy with the frowning face on

1:06:53

the other side of the table. But I've

1:06:55

heard from other people before you have to

1:06:57

say something in the moment otherwise people get

1:06:59

mad at you for not having so this might

1:07:01

be that good sound bite for you to be like

1:07:03

I just want to say some of the things

1:07:05

you've shown me or said like you know

1:07:07

what I mean? Yeah like I'll get sanctimonious

1:07:10

in a sanctimonious way. Well yeah just so

1:07:12

that like people go because the big criticism

1:07:14

will be that things were played for you

1:07:16

and things were played for you didn't speak

1:07:19

up in the moment. You should have spoken

1:07:21

up in the moment. Just live and

1:07:23

learn, you know. I was just going

1:07:25

with the flow here. Yeah, there's not

1:07:27

a thing to go with the flow.

1:07:29

I was just trusting you, Tom, and

1:07:32

maybe that was my problem. I

1:07:34

should never have trusted you, Tom. But

1:07:36

I should know better at this point.

1:07:38

That is actually a really good sound

1:07:40

bite. Is that don't trust Tom? Love

1:07:43

that I've that I did your show

1:07:45

and that I've gotten to be friends

1:07:47

with you I couldn't be happier for

1:07:49

your success. Thank you. I do think

1:07:51

you are I've said before I think

1:07:53

you were the best interviewer on the

1:07:56

planet doing this today You really

1:07:58

are the Charlie Rose without paying on

1:08:00

a sum or whatever he did. And I

1:08:02

think, I really do think you're the best.

1:08:04

I think you're the best. I'm

1:08:06

happy for you. I know you're

1:08:09

extremely wealthy now and I expect

1:08:11

incredible holiday gifts when that season

1:08:13

comes. I would also like to

1:08:15

visit your estate when you're done.

1:08:17

You're invited. Always. Always. Open door

1:08:19

policy for you. And Christina. Where

1:08:21

would you reside if you were

1:08:23

picking your like this is where

1:08:25

I want? Would a meeting? I

1:08:27

think about it sometimes. You want to

1:08:29

out of the big city and

1:08:32

more peaceful setting? Well, there's, you

1:08:34

know, I'm a city rat by

1:08:36

nature, I think, you know, and

1:08:38

we'll be for the foreseeable future

1:08:40

and eventually someday I'd like to

1:08:42

get back to Chicago. I'd like

1:08:44

to die in Chicago. I'd like

1:08:47

to die in Chicago. I'd like

1:08:49

to die in Chicago. I'd like

1:08:51

to get back to Chicago. I'd

1:08:53

like to get back there eventually,

1:08:55

but sometimes when I do just

1:08:57

let the daydreaming. Where would you like to die?

1:08:59

That's how I think about it, because I have no exit

1:09:02

strategy at the moment, and I have fallen in love with

1:09:04

New York. When I first moved to New York, I treated

1:09:06

it like prison. I was like, I'm doing two summers, and

1:09:08

I'm doing two winners, and I'm getting the fuck out of

1:09:10

here. But... How long's it been now? like 14 years

1:09:12

I think, or 13 years, I don't

1:09:14

know, something like that. I lived there

1:09:16

longer than I have lived anywhere else

1:09:18

and now I'm in love with it

1:09:20

and it's hard to adjust when you

1:09:23

go to another city after you're like

1:09:25

used to the pace and style and

1:09:27

everything of New York. So I love

1:09:29

New York, I have no immediate plans

1:09:31

to leave, spend a ton of time

1:09:33

in LA, but you know, obviously because

1:09:35

of unfortunate events, the landscape

1:09:38

there, like, my dream was always

1:09:40

like... Sometimes I'll stay at this

1:09:42

place called the Malibu Beach in. Yeah,

1:09:44

yeah, like by that Nobu over there. That

1:09:46

place is red. It's so great. It's so

1:09:49

great. I love that place and it's

1:09:51

kind of just like a just a chills

1:09:53

end like sanctuary for me. Yeah. I'm

1:09:55

working. I've got like this weekend off like

1:09:57

I'd booked there and I'd take these long.

1:10:00

walks up north and you just see those

1:10:02

like crazy estates that are on the beach

1:10:04

there and when I look at those I'd

1:10:06

be like I would be like that would

1:10:09

be so sick you know to just like

1:10:11

sure have the beach and that beach

1:10:13

access but then we'll also have these

1:10:15

sick pools and you know like those

1:10:18

houses are so sick and then you're

1:10:20

just by that zen ocean water

1:10:22

and you can just fall asleep

1:10:24

with the windows cracked and just

1:10:27

something different about it and it's

1:10:29

so calming to me that I was like,

1:10:31

you know, if things work out in just

1:10:33

the right way, this would be amazing.

1:10:36

All right. So I've thought about it

1:10:38

a little bit. So you can now

1:10:40

take your newfound extraordinary wealth and buy

1:10:42

a house in Malibu. So you know

1:10:44

where to find them? Find them. Find

1:10:46

the dip. Yeah. Fucking, dude. Malibu

1:10:49

is, even with all of its chaos,

1:10:51

like you get used to hearing about,

1:10:53

you know, obviously fires is

1:10:55

a big thing, mudslides and

1:10:57

everything. It's still there's like

1:10:59

there's nothing. It's the best.

1:11:01

It's the best. Malibu is the best.

1:11:04

Malibu Beach in. You got a free

1:11:06

plug. There you go. Give us a

1:11:08

couple free nights. So how Beach

1:11:11

House, what is it called? Yeah, little.

1:11:13

Yeah, they have that club over there.

1:11:15

Clubs over there. Nobu's there.

1:11:17

All you need. They used to

1:11:19

have this like fried chicken joint

1:11:21

across the street from Nobu.

1:11:23

And I always thought that would

1:11:25

be like. What's better than

1:11:28

fried chicken, too? It's the best. Do you

1:11:30

know boo on, no boo on Saturday? Fried

1:11:32

chicken on Sunday? Hey, can we get some

1:11:34

fried chicken tonight? Let's go. Hell yeah. Let's

1:11:37

do fried chicken, dude. Fried chicken is the

1:11:39

shit. It's so good for you. And

1:11:41

it's so good to eat. What do

1:11:43

you watch? That's the other thing I

1:11:46

want to know. Because you have good

1:11:48

taste. What are you watching? Are you

1:11:50

watching any shows or movies right now?

1:11:52

Yeah, I'm watching. Well, I watched every

1:11:54

Oscar nominee, every adapted. You did watch

1:11:57

everyone? Yeah, because I was doing all

1:11:59

these interviews. love one the most? Yeah

1:12:01

I mean Nora was probably my favorite film

1:12:03

of the year and it cleaned up but

1:12:05

I also really loved the substance and I

1:12:08

love Corley that I was kind of rooting

1:12:10

for her for director and I was rooting

1:12:12

for demean best actress you know like when

1:12:14

I was at the event yeah just thinking

1:12:16

about yeah yeah you're like yeah So I

1:12:19

did love those movies a lot. I'm happy

1:12:21

that the White Lotus is back. That's one

1:12:23

of my favorite shows. Yep. That show Severance

1:12:25

banging right now. Love that show. Never seen

1:12:28

it. Everybody. It's one of those things. That's

1:12:30

all right. If you're not on the, if

1:12:32

you're not, you don't need to jump on.

1:12:34

You know? No, I feel like I have,

1:12:37

I'm such an idiot. Is that I always,

1:12:39

whatever is like the hottest show. If I

1:12:41

didn't already started it. I was later, Game

1:12:43

of Thrones is already done before I even

1:12:46

started it. I started in, fucking, 2023. Hell

1:12:48

yeah, you can be a bullet dog. I

1:12:50

watch the season and a half though. I

1:12:52

get too distracted, I think it's, I have

1:12:55

a little, a lot of characters, a lot

1:12:57

of different spots. Yeah, yeah. My favorite was

1:12:59

that Breaking Bad was like a cultural

1:13:01

phenomena, and I kept being like, oh, fuck

1:13:04

off, you like this is the best show

1:13:06

ever. Well, here's the thing, I started the

1:13:08

show, I started the show, as the last

1:13:10

season. Was beginning to air whatever year

1:13:12

that was like 2015 or something. So

1:13:15

I started I all watch this show

1:13:17

So I got to watch the entire series in

1:13:19

like two weeks of like This is

1:13:21

the fucking best thing I've ever so

1:13:23

I always remind myself that I was

1:13:26

at 13. So it's 13. It was

1:13:28

even earlier It was yeah that ride

1:13:30

of being able to go through it

1:13:32

without having yeah, it was incredible. Yeah,

1:13:35

it was incredible. But I do keep

1:13:37

hearing that severance is amazing It is.

1:13:39

It's really good. Yeah, shout to Adam

1:13:41

Scott, shout to Ben Stiller. Okay,

1:13:44

well, guys, make a note that in

1:13:46

2029, I will watch Severance.

1:13:48

Please, don't let me forget.

1:13:50

Thank you, Sean. You're the

1:13:52

best. Thank you for doing

1:13:54

this. I'm sorry if I did

1:13:57

something that will affect your

1:13:59

brand. in some way. I wouldn't

1:14:01

have it any other way. Yes.

1:14:03

I'll go down with you. We,

1:14:05

yeah, lots of studio space here,

1:14:07

you know, I could always pop

1:14:09

up a show here. Anytime. Okay,

1:14:12

deal. Yeah, we will, we will,

1:14:14

we will make, you know what,

1:14:16

we'll get rid of people for

1:14:18

you. I would love to tell

1:14:20

somebody that they lost their job

1:14:22

today because you're here. And I'd

1:14:24

love to break the news with

1:14:26

you. Also that would be the

1:14:28

best IG real, Tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic-tic- and actually

1:14:30

stand up because

1:14:32

you got to

1:14:35

get the fuck

1:14:38

out of here.

1:14:40

Sean's here now.

1:14:43

All right, that's,

1:14:46

thanks guys. We'll

1:14:49

see you next

1:14:51

time.