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15-17. Well, we are in Matthew Chapter

2:39

18. Jesus just got done talking about

2:41

some parables of a lost sheep, and

2:44

he says, man, tell you what, I'll

2:46

leave 99 sheep to go find one.

2:48

That's what I'll do. That bad sheep.

2:50

That sheep that's out there doing bad

2:53

stuff, I'll leave 99, go find him

2:55

and when I get him, I'm gonna

2:57

be excited. I'm gonna be rejoicing. Well,

2:59

the disciples rightly perceived it. He's talking

3:02

about sinners going astray. I mean, that's

3:04

what it means to be a sheep

3:06

that goes astray is that you didn't

3:09

just wander off sinlessly. No, no, no.

3:11

You got tempted away. And Peter wants

3:13

to know some stuff. And Peter wants

3:15

to know some stuff. Because Peter wants

3:18

to know some stuff, because after that,

3:20

because he said, hey, I just want

3:22

you to know that if your brother

3:24

sins against you, there's a sort of

3:27

an order to bring in that brother

3:29

back. But the whole goal here is

3:31

that, hey, you're trying to get your

3:34

brother back, just like I got that

3:36

lost sheet back. And of course, Peter,

3:38

he's got a question about this. I

3:40

mean, like immediately something or someone maybe

3:43

pops into Peter's head and he's like,

3:45

hmm. Let's just say, I'm with you.

3:47

Say it was the same person, like

3:49

how much, like what if it was

3:52

like the, don't you feel like guys

3:54

in this situation, Peter, it's not just

3:56

like a number question, but it's a

3:58

person question and Peter doesn't want to

4:01

say a name, but someone's in his

4:03

head where he's like, yeah, but like

4:05

what if someone's like really, really treading

4:08

on thin ice man, there's got to

4:10

be a limit. to like how often

4:12

you do this sort of thing. Yeah,

4:14

that's a reasonable question. I mean, you

4:17

know, in one sense, this is a

4:19

very reasonable question. It's very human. Very

4:21

human. Very human. Very human. And so

4:23

we picked up at verse 21. It

4:26

says, then Peter came up and said

4:28

to him, Lord, how often will my

4:30

brother sin against me and I forgive

4:33

him? So that that question is understandable.

4:35

It's like, well, what's the limit here?

4:37

Maybe it is James, you know, he's

4:39

just like, acts like my literal brother,

4:42

Lord. This guy, this guy. Who knows?

4:44

I mean, and it very well could

4:46

be. And so Peter wants to, I

4:48

mean, he knows he's dealing with a

4:51

God that's all about that grace. I

4:53

mean, he knows who he's dealing with.

4:55

And so he makes a suggestion. He

4:57

says as many as seven times. Now,

5:00

of course, the tradition at the time

5:02

in Judaism was that you were obligated

5:04

basically to forgive some three times. Peter's

5:07

doing double plus one. Yeah, I mean,

5:09

so you can tell, I mean, you

5:11

can just see Peter being like, I

5:13

know I must be on the right

5:16

track here, like going above and beyond.

5:18

radical forgiveness from Peter. Yes, double plus

5:20

one. Peter thinks like, I'm gonna throw

5:22

something out there that's gonna seem very

5:25

gracious, like to the Lord, like the

5:27

Lord's gonna be like, oh. Wow, Peter,

5:29

that's a great number. And not only

5:32

that, it's a very biblical number, Peter.

5:34

I mean, you're really on your completion.

5:36

Yes, you've been reading your Old Testament

5:38

having you, Peter. You're right, it is

5:41

seven times, actually. Yeah. But that is

5:43

not what Jesus says to him. Instead,

5:45

we read in verse 22, Jesus said

5:47

to him, I do not say to

5:50

you seven times, but 77 times. Now,

5:52

important to note, there's a couple different

5:54

ways that that can be translated. in

5:56

some of your translations it will say

5:59

70 times 7 times other times you

6:01

know it's four hundred ninety is not

6:03

a great biblical number though so we

6:06

had to do something with that yes

6:08

yes so you know they so So,

6:10

you know, depending on your, you know,

6:12

the way that the translators in your,

6:15

your version did it, the point here

6:17

is that no, you're supposed to go

6:19

way past seven times. In fact, you're

6:21

supposed to always be willing to forgive.

6:24

I did. Well, I think that probably

6:26

like Peter's, you can see it in

6:28

Peter's eyes probably and he's starting to

6:31

do math. Like he's got his fingers

6:33

out and he's like doing them and

6:35

Jesus is like, let me tell you

6:37

his story to explain to explain to

6:40

you. that you can stop doing the

6:42

math. He's like, I've only got 10

6:44

of these. Because the point here is

6:46

not like a number, right? So like,

6:49

don't get your hand up. Like, what

6:51

Jesus is saying is like, listen, dude,

6:53

there, the fact that you're asking how

6:55

many times is showing that you don't

6:58

get what I'm saying. So I'm going

7:00

to tell you a story. about that

7:02

you're going to really want to just

7:05

maybe forgive and don't worry about the

7:07

number of times that you're having to

7:09

do it. But I mean just because

7:11

I've heard it so many times I

7:14

think it's important to dispel in people

7:16

that there's you know some deeper secret

7:18

knowledge significance to the number that Jesus

7:20

is putting out here like there's no

7:23

like. We're not going to do some

7:25

specifically biblical mathematics on this to come

7:27

out with like the symbolic representational number

7:30

here that means until, you know, whatever.

7:32

And it's just, it's what Jesus is

7:34

just saying, yeah, you got to, Jesus

7:36

got to forgive him. Yeah. This is

7:39

stop keeping track. If anything, if there

7:41

is any sort of secret to this

7:43

number. you could connect it back to

7:45

Genesis Chapter 4 where Lamech who is

7:48

guilty of murder says at one point

7:50

in Chapter 4 verse 20 war if

7:52

Keynes revenge is sevenfold then Lamech is

7:54

77 fold and the whole idea is

7:57

that Lamech is saying he is His

7:59

vengeance is unstoppable. It goes on forever.

8:01

Well, Jesus sort of does the opposite.

8:04

He says, no, no, no, the mark

8:06

of the Christian is that you're going

8:08

to forgive in that kind of unstoppable

8:10

way. Right. So it's just like, listen,

8:13

this is what you do. You forgive

8:15

your brother. Yep. And so yeah, to

8:17

that, he does tell a parable illustrating

8:19

what it should look like. He says,

8:22

in verse 23, therefore the kingdom of

8:24

heaven may be compared to a king.

8:26

who wished to settle accounts with his

8:29

servants. When he began to settle, one

8:31

was brought to him who owed him

8:33

10,000 talents, which basically is just an

8:35

insurmountable large amount of money. And since

8:38

he could not pay, his master ordered

8:40

him to be sold with his wife

8:42

and children and all that he had

8:44

and payment to be made. So the

8:47

servant fell on his knees imploring him,

8:49

have patience with me, and I will

8:51

pay you everything. and out of pity

8:53

for him, the master of that servant

8:56

released him and forgave him the debt.

8:58

But when that same servant went out,

9:00

he found one of his fellow servants

9:03

who owed him a hundred denarii, and

9:05

seizing him, he began to choke him,

9:07

saying, Pay what you owe. So his

9:09

fellow servant fell down and pleaded with

9:12

him, Have patience with me and I

9:14

will pay you. He refused and went

9:16

and put him in prison until he

9:18

should pay the debt. When his fellow

9:21

servant saw what had taken place, they

9:23

were greatly distressed distressed. and they went

9:25

and reported to their master all that

9:28

had taken place. And his master summoned

9:30

him and said to him, You wicked

9:32

servant, I forgive you all that debt

9:34

because you pleaded with me. And should

9:37

not you have had mercy on your

9:39

fellow servant as I had mercy on

9:41

you? And in anger his master delivered

9:43

him to the jailers, until he should

9:46

pay all his debt. So also my

9:48

Heavenly Father will do to every one

9:50

of you, if you do not forgive

9:52

your brother from your heart. This is

9:55

the gospel of the Lord. I don't

9:57

have said it before, but they did.

9:59

Like when Jesus. This preaches the law

10:02

like he doesn't he does not mess

10:04

around. Yeah, he's no wayroom. No, man.

10:06

No, man. The law always accuses. Yeah,

10:08

and he's not doing it in a

10:11

way that's like giving you some sort

10:13

of man be pay and be checklist.

10:15

Like this is this is why you

10:17

end with and do it. Don't just

10:20

do it like with your mouth. You

10:22

got to do this from your heart

10:24

and it's like ooh. Okay. I always

10:27

wonder. I mean, we don't even spend

10:29

any time on this. But it's always

10:31

funny to me, like the concept of

10:33

throwing somebody in jail until they can

10:36

pay their debt is always just a

10:38

funny one to me. It's like, yeah,

10:40

well, they're now making money in jail.

10:42

That was initially why jails were built

10:45

or were formed. Debtors present or debtors.

10:47

Yeah. That's such a weird concept to

10:49

me. Didn't debtors present, I think this

10:51

is right, back in the day. They

10:54

farmed. Well, yeah, you were basically a

10:56

slave to the state at that point

10:58

and the state was like, well, we're

11:01

going to we're going to imprison this

11:03

person and they're going to do labor

11:05

and we're going to pay them. But

11:07

we're not actually going to pay them.

11:10

It's just going to go toward their

11:12

debt. So like you end up never

11:14

really working it off. Which would be

11:16

the same thing with our servant here,

11:19

by the way. I mean, there's no

11:21

chance of him being able to work

11:23

off 10,000 talents. Yeah. So a talent.

11:26

Generally, a talent is about like 20

11:28

years worth of wages. So if you

11:30

do that math, it would take him

11:32

like, if he gave everything, he needed

11:35

to live to be 200,000 years old

11:37

to pay this off, like it's an

11:39

absurd amount of money. Dan, did you

11:41

do that math without a calculator just

11:44

now? Yeah, that's weird. That's pretty impressive,

11:46

yeah. Well, he didn't have that eighth

11:48

grade algebra. And I always tell people,

11:50

you have to be weird with doing

11:53

sort of one-to-one analysis with things like

11:55

things like talents. This is measured always

11:57

in something that's just the idea of

12:00

time of time work. That's the only

12:02

way we can really do it. And

12:04

the idea of time work really. I'm

12:06

getting too in the weeds, I'm sure,

12:09

and so just make me shut up.

12:11

But the idea of like time value

12:13

really changed after the Industrial Revolution, let's

12:15

just do that. And so it's really

12:18

hard to do sort of comparisons between

12:20

our dollars or something like that. And

12:22

that's why it's always just compared to

12:25

time. It's supposed to be a insurmountable

12:27

amount of debt, like a debt that

12:29

you could never possibly pay out. A

12:31

debt that you could only owe to

12:34

God because it would be impossible, I

12:36

think, to even get in this much

12:38

debt with like another person, right? It

12:40

would never happen. Now, one of the

12:43

things that happens was- What did he

12:45

buy to getting that much debt? I

12:47

don't know even know how you could

12:49

owe this much, right? So this is

12:52

obviously, like, the point is that this

12:54

is a debt owed to the king,

12:56

owed to God, that you have a

12:59

debt that you could never ever ever

13:01

ever repay. Now, the other thing about

13:03

this that sometimes people do, that sometimes

13:05

people do, that sometimes people do, that

13:08

I think- is not a good thing

13:10

to do is they treat this other

13:12

debt as if it's absolutely nothing which

13:14

is not which is not true. It's

13:17

a hundred days worth of labor. It's

13:19

a hundred days worth of labor. Yeah,

13:21

so like that and so like is

13:24

it payable? Yes, but like it's not

13:26

ten bucks like it's not that it's

13:28

it's a lot of money like that

13:30

this other guy owes him. And I

13:33

think the reason that you should look

13:35

at it that way is that. in

13:37

life, like what the point of this

13:39

story is that you owe God something

13:42

that you could never ever ever repay.

13:44

And that there are debts that people

13:46

owe you and these obviously debt here

13:48

is synonymous with like being sent against.

13:51

This is like it's about forgiveness. But

13:53

you're going to have like legitimate. sin

13:55

happen against you, right? That is not

13:58

just no big deal, that you will

14:00

be called because of the great forgiveness

14:02

you get from Christ. Even that debt,

14:04

which seems like a decent-sized debt here,

14:07

like this guy really does owe this

14:09

to you, God does... that you would

14:11

forgive all things right that every that

14:13

you that that's that would be your

14:16

response this is the whole thing this

14:18

is the whole problem with the unforgiving

14:20

servant is that he does not really

14:23

recognize or appreciate just how much he

14:25

has been forgiven that's and that's why

14:27

he then feels justified in going after

14:29

this guy that owes him because he

14:32

doesn't really he really doesn't appreciate it

14:34

Here's what I here's how you to

14:36

deal with this. It's not just that

14:38

he doesn't appreciate it It's that and

14:41

that this is why this parable has

14:43

to do with faith and why forgiveness

14:45

has everything to do with faith Because

14:47

what this servant that's been forgiven all

14:50

of this massive debt doesn't do is

14:52

he doesn't trust it. I was saying

14:54

that's right. He doesn't believe it. He

14:57

thinks that like it may be the

14:59

case that this guy's gonna change his

15:01

mind so he's gathering up his his

15:03

his his hordess Correct. So he's like,

15:06

I'm going to need to go accumulate

15:08

what is owed to me so that

15:10

if this this guy changes his mind.

15:12

So he has this this this lack

15:15

of trust and what this good master

15:17

has done where he's like, I hear

15:19

it, but I'm not sure. Do I

15:22

really trust it? Can I really live?

15:24

Can I live the rest of my

15:26

life believing that this debt will not

15:28

be called? Uh, that's the problem. Because

15:31

if you Live your life not trusting

15:33

in the forgiveness that you have in

15:35

Christ this will? Make you someone then

15:37

who doesn't dole out forgiveness easily well,

15:40

and you're going to try to keep

15:42

gathering up your good works to pay

15:44

got back. Yeah, if we were to

15:46

back up to the I mean, there's

15:49

a part of this story that is

15:51

like really really really harsh and it

15:53

is not that the servant starts choking

15:56

his fellow servant the debt that the

15:58

original servant owes the master is so

16:00

big that the only way it could

16:02

be, you know, even come close to

16:05

being repaid is not just that the

16:07

servant be put into slavery, but that

16:09

his wife and his children be sold

16:11

and put into slavery and all that

16:14

he owns be sold and given to

16:16

the master. I mean, there's, that is

16:18

some. Talk about preaching the law, like

16:21

since he could not pay his master,

16:23

ordered him to be sold with his

16:25

wife and children, and all that he

16:27

had and the payment be made. If

16:30

you want to know at the end

16:32

of the day what you owe God

16:34

for your sin, it's that everything that

16:36

you are and everything that you value,

16:39

be sold, be taken from you, and

16:41

be given to God. So if you

16:43

want to know what you're being forgiven,

16:45

it's all of that. And what you're

16:48

being given is all of that. So

16:50

you're being forgiven everything and what you're

16:52

being given back is everything that you

16:55

could possibly think of valuing. And that's

16:57

the level of forgiveness that you're asked

16:59

to put trust in. And the fact

17:01

is you cannot put trust in it

17:04

and on your own and this is

17:06

also I think an example of that

17:08

you could not like just on your

17:10

own you could not believe that anybody

17:13

would do that that they had the

17:15

right over everything that was yours and

17:17

it was rightfully theirs now and that

17:20

they just gave it back to you.

17:22

Yeah. And. No questions asked. I give

17:24

you, and you can't, this is why

17:26

at the end of the day when

17:29

Jesus continues to talk about this, and

17:31

we've already had some chapters where he

17:33

has, and we'll have more where he

17:35

does, that this sort of faith is

17:38

just an absolute miracle of the Holy

17:40

Spirit. It just is an absolute miracle

17:42

of the Holy Spirit. And the illustration

17:44

that this guy does not have that

17:47

faith is the fact that he's going

17:49

and he's... his good works

17:51

because he's gonna try

17:54

to offer this

17:56

back to the this back

17:58

to the Or he

18:00

thinks that he might

18:03

have to Or you

18:05

said. that he might have to

18:07

the level said. he's been forgiven of

18:09

huge. been and what he's owed

18:11

to him is big owed to is of

18:13

value. is of value. But it's still not

18:16

anything that could come anywhere

18:18

close to what he actually owes

18:20

the the that's an important point

18:22

to make. It's not that

18:24

you don't have sins that have that have

18:26

been committed against you. you. Right. not

18:28

that people haven't done you wrong. you

18:30

wrong. And it's not necessarily

18:32

even saying that forgiveness is saying

18:34

that Ah, you know, it's real easy. oh, you

18:36

know, I mean, it's a I mean, it's a

18:38

death to self. Because when, when, I

18:40

in in literally in Greek

18:43

is, is like is like

18:45

to loosen or to release someone. Yeah.

18:47

And so and so you're you're

18:49

You're being asked to trust that God is

18:51

going to work all things out for good. out

18:53

for good you forgive someone.

18:55

someone. And being asked to

18:57

trust that he really really has

19:00

that of grace So then at

19:02

the end, this whole whole thing

19:04

is being set up in a, even,

19:06

even Peter's question that started this out from the

19:08

started this out from the last episode from this

19:10

one, how goes from this one, how many

19:12

times do I have to forgive, right? Peter's mind

19:15

mind is in the law, and he's thinking

19:17

about this in the terms of an

19:19

earthly economy. He wants to know. to know. Well,

19:21

if he's forgiven me once and

19:23

I've forgiven him forgiven him going above

19:26

and beyond and I've come out

19:28

ahead, right? and I've this is also

19:30

how the this about, but think about

19:32

how this switch thinking about, but the

19:34

end how this switch at, verse 35, where

19:36

it comes out of sort of

19:39

an earthly earthly economy and

19:41

it goes back into the reality

19:43

of the situation. So my heavenly

19:45

father will do every do every. due

19:47

to every one of you, if if you

19:49

do not forgive your brother from your heart.

19:51

your heart. And it changes this from from like a

19:53

one, two, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

19:55

eight, nine times where we're sort of counting

19:57

the way we count money money or the the

19:59

way count. assets or the way we count

20:02

our good works or something like that.

20:04

And it changes it into what is

20:06

the reality that it that in faith

20:08

by the work of the Holy Spirit

20:11

it's your heart that is the thing

20:13

that is changed and that your heart

20:15

that can cling to Christ alone and

20:17

believe. And that's what makes you realize

20:20

and believe and trust that like Dan

20:22

said that your these sins are actually

20:24

forgiven. And there's does two things for

20:26

you. One it gives you absolute... freedom

20:29

and it makes you realize that you

20:31

actually have no ground on which to

20:33

stand to not forgive someone else. Yeah,

20:35

well this is this is why you

20:38

know like Luther will say like all

20:40

forgiveness is God's forgiveness. Yeah. What he

20:42

means by that is just that the

20:45

only way is possible for you to

20:47

forgive others is to realize that you've

20:49

been forgiven right like all forgiveness what

20:51

to person a person flows from the

20:54

forgiveness that you have in Christ. So

20:56

if you're trusting in that then you

20:58

can. extend forgiveness to other people. I

21:00

think there's like a real practical thing

21:03

too here where I would do this

21:05

both ways where one, when you're dealing

21:07

with God or with other people, don't

21:09

ask for patience, ask for forgiveness. Don't

21:12

do this thing where you say like

21:14

just be patient with me and I

21:16

pay the whole thing. No, you won't.

21:18

You will not pay this whole thing.

21:21

Instead, just ask for the thing you

21:23

need, which is absolution. Ask for forgiveness

21:25

and you will get it. And also,

21:27

the second part of this, which is

21:30

what God expects from you, is when

21:32

your neighbor who sends against you, ask

21:34

for patience or ask to make it

21:37

up for you to give them forgiveness.

21:39

Give them the thing they need, not

21:41

the thing they're asking for. And then

21:43

I know it's a parable and you

21:46

don't want to draw too much from

21:48

too much from it. You like believe

21:50

in like, you know, Christ died for

21:52

everyone and like, you have, you're always

21:55

talking about the grace of God in

21:57

Christ and forgiveness and all this stuff.

21:59

But yet I hear you say that

22:01

you like don't believe in like once

22:04

saved, always saved. What's that? about, like,

22:06

how can these things go together? And

22:08

his parables like this, let you know,

22:10

you know, or they'll say, like, if

22:13

Christ died for all sins, then, like,

22:15

how can anyone be judged? And you're

22:17

like, well, there is a parable where

22:19

debt is reinstated quite obvious, like, it's

22:22

quite obvious, like, where this guy was

22:24

forgiven, and now his debt has been

22:26

reinstated because he didn't trust in that

22:28

forgiveness, man. You can see

22:31

the same principle, by the way, in

22:33

the parable of the sower, especially in

22:35

Luke's account of it, where the word

22:37

for believe that is used to describe

22:39

what the rocky soil and the thorny

22:41

soil do is the exact same word

22:43

for believe that is used in the

22:45

rest of the New Testament. Yeah, for

22:47

sure. And this is the thing, not

22:49

damning anyone here, but if you're reading

22:51

the New Testament, if you're reading Jesus

22:53

particularly, if you find yourself repeatedly, if

22:55

you find yourself repeatedly, just... unwilling to

22:57

forgive people like this should like give

23:00

you pause you should let the law

23:02

do its work that's not a good

23:04

thing right like that is that is

23:06

not something that that Christ you should

23:08

find that troubling because I this is

23:10

a big deal to him not just

23:12

for your neighbor but also I mean

23:14

just practically like we know what harboring

23:16

unforgiveness does to us psychologically well unforgiveness

23:18

choke out faith well it's I mean,

23:20

I don't think I'm going too far

23:22

here, and I think I know that

23:24

Dan, at least Dan agrees with me,

23:26

that's because I think we've talked about

23:29

it, but this is the sin against

23:31

the Holy Spirit at the end of

23:33

the day. Again, if it is, what

23:35

causes this man to go out and

23:37

seek his debt from the fellow servant

23:39

is that he does not trust in

23:41

the forgiveness that he's been granted, you

23:43

know, does not trust that it's enough,

23:45

and is therefore really rejecting it. That's

23:47

what that's what it is at the

23:49

end of the day to be unforgiving

23:51

is to reject. your forgiveness. And that

23:53

is, you know, what does the Holy

23:56

Spirit give you? He gives you the

23:58

faith to grab hold of that forgiveness.

24:00

And if you've now, you're no longer

24:02

trusting it, that is the sin against

24:04

the Holy Spirit here. But the debt

24:06

is then reinstated. The other thing I

24:08

was going to say is going back

24:10

to one of the things you said

24:12

when you quoted Luther, that all forgiveness

24:14

comes from God. And we don't bring

24:16

a lot of cultural references into this

24:18

show, which is probably good thing, but

24:20

I watched too much TV not to.

24:22

But one of the things you'll notice

24:25

in popular culture representations of somebody sending

24:27

and knowing that they've sent and then

24:29

sort of talking to the people in

24:31

their lives about it, you will not

24:33

hear, for the most part, in anything

24:35

that is sort of, that is secularly

24:37

cultural, someone say to another person, I

24:39

forgive you. You'll hear this. you have

24:41

to learn to forgive yourself. Yes, all

24:43

the time man. And I mean, I

24:45

just, watching a pretty good show and

24:47

it was just a great case of

24:49

that in there and the dad literally

24:51

said to the daughter, I can't forgive

24:54

you, you have to learn to forgive

24:56

yourself. And I'm like, oh my lord,

24:58

how horrible. But at the end of

25:00

the day, you know, that is a

25:02

myth. If you're to believe the Bible,

25:04

the idea that you can forgive yourself

25:06

is a myth. You don't have that

25:08

kind of authority. You don't have that

25:10

kind of authority, you don't have that

25:12

kind of power, you have to have

25:14

either Jesus himself or somebody standing in

25:16

Jesus' place who's called to forgive you.

25:18

Some preacher that's called to forgive you.

25:21

And then the Holy Spirit works through

25:23

that to give you faith which trust

25:25

and clings to that forgiveness. It actually

25:27

sets you free. And that's sort of,

25:29

that's what went on here. So is

25:31

there gospel here? Yeah, I had pity

25:33

on him and I forgave him all

25:35

of his debt. This is the gospel

25:37

of the Lord. But then what happens

25:39

is sin creeps in. Well, you know,

25:41

and to that end, there's for me,

25:43

the favorite part, my favorite part of

25:45

going to my church every Sunday is

25:47

really twofold. It's number one, beginning the

25:50

service with confession and absolution and having

25:52

that word of absolution, pronounced over me,

25:54

being done to me. And in related

25:56

to that, kind of the same thing

25:58

when we take communion. And it's proclaimed

26:00

to me. that the body of Christ

26:02

and the blood of Christ is given

26:04

to me for the forgiveness of my

26:06

sins. I need to hear it all

26:08

the time. And so as a point

26:10

of application here, if we're going to

26:12

be people that display forgiveness, we need

26:14

to be in places where we're receiving

26:16

forgiveness all the time, which is another

26:19

argument for the necessity of being a

26:21

part of a church that's handing out

26:23

absolution very liberally. Yeah. Like if you're

26:25

listening to this and you're like, I've

26:27

got some unforgiveness going on, like there's

26:29

some people or there's a person and

26:31

I've not forgiven them. And it's justified.

26:33

Yeah, or even if you're just like,

26:35

you're hearing this and you're just saying,

26:37

I need to, let me just encourage

26:39

you to this. One, I want to

26:41

say like, there is forgiveness for that.

26:43

So like, and be forgiven, of course,

26:46

like from that. And then use the

26:48

forgiveness that you receive that you. This

26:50

is the thing about about unforgiveness like

26:52

unforgiveness is a Dangerous place for faith

26:54

and unforgiveness is is a slow death

26:56

to yourself You're not hurting this other

26:58

person like the way you think you

27:00

are you are hurting your Corrie Temboom

27:02

has this great line where she forgave

27:04

the the guy that ran the concentration

27:06

camp that where sister died and like

27:08

where she was for a long time

27:10

and he faced a fate for this

27:12

guy and and and He asked for

27:15

forgiveness and she gave it and she

27:17

says, uh, forgiveness. is releasing a prisoner

27:19

just to find out that prisoner as

27:21

you and like that's that is how

27:23

this works like if you've ever like

27:25

truly forgave someone like you think you're

27:27

liberating them which you are but you

27:29

you are liberated in this moment unforgiveness

27:31

will kill you it's not a good

27:33

way to live it's a sin and

27:35

so it's way it weighs on you

27:37

and it destroys you It's like, uh,

27:39

lots of something similar, you know, a

27:41

little bit more, uh, I don't know,

27:44

funny, but she says, uh, not forgiving

27:46

someone is like drinking rat poison and

27:48

waiting for the other person to die.

27:50

Yeah. Yeah, it is, man. Like, I

27:52

mean, it totally, it's, and everybody's been

27:54

there. Poison. 100%. Yeah, this is why

27:56

you have, you know, Paul say things

27:58

like, hey, be careful that like no

28:00

root of bitterness takes it. Well, what

28:02

is that? What happens with root? Where

28:04

does that come from? It comes from

28:06

our forgiveness. And what you say it'll

28:08

do is it'll choke out faith. This

28:11

is your whole reason that forgiveness is

28:13

such a big deal to Jesus is

28:15

because he knows that it's an enemy

28:17

of faith. It is. I don't have

28:19

a better cross. Yeah, that is true.

28:21

I know the moment in your life

28:23

when you've looked the most like Jesus

28:25

and it's when you've forgiven someone who

28:27

doesn't deserve it. Like this is true

28:29

of everybody. Amen. Because this is what

28:31

he's about. And so yeah, I would

28:33

take this and if you do have,

28:35

and you probably do, you know, you

28:37

say like, you know what, there are

28:40

people that I need to forgive. Man,

28:42

do, do do do do that. That's,

28:44

be free yourself, free yourself, free them.

28:46

live in the freedom of Christ's forgiveness,

28:48

trust in that, like it is trustworthy,

28:50

like you can trust it, don't doubt

28:52

it, go hear the gospel, and the

28:54

way that, and the way that, and

28:56

the way that this faith is fed,

28:58

that trust in this forgiveness is, that

29:00

you need to hear the gospel and

29:02

receive the absolution over and over again,

29:04

like I was saying, and this, this

29:06

is how that faith is going to

29:09

be maintained to this forgiveness that you

29:11

have in Christ, but. But I would

29:13

caution you I would

29:15

caution you who you're

29:17

somebody who thinks list of

29:19

people I a long

29:21

list of people I

29:23

haven't forgiven and

29:25

justifiably so because they

29:27

haven't adequately repented

29:29

or they haven't said

29:31

they're sorry or

29:33

whatever it is. sorry or

29:36

whatever it is. To quote

29:38

my dad, don't think that's

29:40

think that's going to

29:42

stand before the the

29:44

one fire. eyes of fire. I

29:46

don't think it's going

29:48

to. to. Like to this

29:50

to this. Obviously not. I'm so glad

29:52

so glad you

29:54

found a way to

29:56

squeeze that quote

29:58

in here, Dan. Well,

30:00

he he he was

30:02

to. I don't think it's going

30:05

don't think it's think it's

30:07

going to stand. Well he Well,

30:09

he asked the

30:11

question. was 15 years

30:13

old old sitting in he

30:15

service that going to

30:17

stand that the one

30:19

to of fire? He

30:21

yelled the one with odds of

30:23

fire? He yelled it and I

30:25

I got the distinct

30:27

impression that the

30:29

answer was answer was no.

30:31

you? you? All right right,

30:34

guys, well, we are

30:36

of time. We will

30:38

leave it there.

30:40

Hey, next week, it's

30:42

going to be gonna

30:44

be to they got

30:46

the We're a question

30:48

about divorce, so

30:50

that should be fun.

30:52

about divorce, so that get

30:54

into that we'll see

30:56

what Jesus has to

30:58

say. I'll see you guys

31:01

then. guys right, see you See you good