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11:20

In the winter of 1983, Patrick

11:23

Welsh left his name and his

11:25

past behind and pulled into Galveston,

11:27

Texas on a bus with just

11:30

a few dollars in his pocket.

11:32

Residents say Galveston is a friendly

11:34

and forgiving city. Just the kind

11:37

of place you might go if

11:39

you wanted to reinvent your life.

11:42

He was just a tenant at my

11:44

mom's house here and he worked for

11:46

my mom at Shlotsky's restaurant Kevin Doherty

11:49

was just a teenager when a stranger

11:51

named Tim Kingsbury moved into his mother's

11:53

boarding house Would you think of him?

11:56

Nice guy. I remember my life Kingsbury

11:58

told Doherty and others that he was

12:00

a student here at the Galveston branch

12:03

of the University of Texas Medical School.

12:05

Would it surprise you to know that

12:07

we checked with the folks at the

12:10

medical school and they said he was

12:12

never enrolled there? Very much so because

12:14

I know his books were all there

12:17

and he always seemed to be studying

12:19

very diligently. It was the first of

12:21

many deceptions as Tim Kingsbury slowly established

12:24

himself in Galveston Society. In his early

12:26

years he developed a reputation as a

12:28

local character, writing for a small newspaper.

12:31

He wrote about learning to scuba dive.

12:33

to sail and running a marathon, complete

12:35

with photos of himself. Responding to a

12:38

feature on Galveston's eligible bachelor's, the man

12:40

who had abandoned his wife and two

12:42

sons wrote, quote, Can you imagine my

12:45

surprise to find out I was not

12:47

mentioned? For a man on the run,

12:49

Kingsbury didn't act like a man with

12:51

much to hide. Six

12:54

months after his arrival, he was

12:56

hired as a part-time publicist for

12:58

the prestigious Galveston Historical Foundation, referred

13:01

to as GHF. He was eventually

13:03

appointed president. This is a recording

13:05

of his acceptance speech. GHF is

13:07

where I learned and grew professionally.

13:09

It's through GHF that I fell

13:12

in love in every sense of

13:14

the word. While working at the

13:16

foundation, he met Anne Anderson, a

13:18

woman from a prominent Galveston family.

13:20

He moved into her waterfront home.

13:23

where they lived together for 10

13:25

years. Kingsbury eventually made his way

13:27

into the inner circle of Galveston

13:29

Society. known as B-O-Y, born on

13:31

the island. He just was a

13:33

standout in helping the community and

13:36

helping people. He became close with

13:38

Anne's brother Vandy. Another beautiful sunrise

13:40

on Galveston Island this morning. Part

13:42

owner of the local radio station.

13:44

Vandy Anderson reporting KGBC News. Kingsbury

13:47

later worked for him as general

13:49

manager and reporter. This was Tim

13:51

Kingsbury's office. He's done what I

13:53

think a radio station manager should

13:55

do and that is to get

13:57

involved in the community. These are

14:00

very civic groups. he worked on

14:02

and just some symbols of their

14:04

appreciation for what he'd done. Kingsbury

14:06

made other close friends, all prominent

14:08

Galvestonians. The passion that he poured

14:11

into getting the schools improved in

14:13

our community, you know, matched my

14:15

own and I have little children.

14:17

Sheila Lidstone works for the local

14:19

school district. He didn't come in

14:21

with a lot of flash and

14:24

I'm going to be in charge.

14:26

He just... gradually built his way

14:28

into our hearts. Dr. Brent Maysell

14:30

says Kingsbury was his best friend.

14:32

I only know Tim Kingsbury. Don't

14:35

know Patrick Welch. Gerald Sullivan, a

14:37

businessman and cattle rancher. I can

14:39

truthfully put my hand on a

14:41

Bible and swear that I know

14:43

of nothing bad about Tim Kingsbury.

14:46

But even his friends had some

14:48

suspicions along the way. I wondered

14:50

when we were having the school

14:52

bond election, what would make... A

14:54

young man with no children who's

14:56

not married get so involved. He

14:59

never really talked about his family

15:01

and I thought obviously something very

15:03

onerous had happened in his life

15:05

that was so horrible that there

15:07

was no way he could discuss

15:10

it. And again I was one

15:12

of his closest friends. But they

15:14

didn't ask and Kingsbury didn't tell.

15:16

In Texas there's an old saying

15:18

you don't ask a man how

15:20

many cattle he has. He wants

15:23

you to know he'll tell you.

15:25

For 13 years he lived in

15:27

Galvestonistan. a pillar of the community.

15:29

Then one day, late in the

15:31

winter of 1996, everything started to

15:34

unravel. We had a citizen who

15:36

came to us. Mike Guarino, Galveston

15:38

County District Attorney. He had seen

15:40

certain things at the radio station

15:42

and the office of Tim Kingsbury.

15:44

They look funny. A co-worker had

15:47

come across forgeries. Some partially filled

15:49

out social security cards, a birth

15:51

certificate or two. Now just after

15:53

you had seized those fraudulent documents,

15:55

did you have suspicions about him?

15:58

Certainly. Did you think that maybe

16:00

he wasn't Tim Kingsbury? Oh, absolutely.

16:02

At that point, Kingsbury confessed everything

16:04

to the DA and to his

16:06

friends. devastating to hear that someone

16:09

that you talked to just about

16:11

every day has a whole other

16:13

life that you didn't know about.

16:15

It's it's an incredible feeling. And

16:17

maybe just as incredible, no one

16:19

seemed to hold it against him.

16:22

I don't blame Patrick Welsh. I

16:24

don't know Patrick Welsh. We know

16:26

Tim Kingsbury. We're not talking about

16:28

a rapist, a mugger, a murderer.

16:30

He wasn't that awful a person.

16:33

I don't think that I've been

16:35

deceived. I have many emotions. But

16:37

being deceived is not one of

16:39

them. What about Patrick Welsh's wife

16:41

and children? I'm only in a

16:43

position to judge what he's done

16:46

here, and that's been remarkable. They

16:48

should have had those 15 years,

16:50

they'll say. And they're right. I

16:52

mean, they missed out. Kids missed

16:54

out, family, community. I guess I

16:57

really don't blame his wife for

16:59

being angry. Gerald Sullivan's wife, Suzanne.

17:01

He has suffered. I mean, he's

17:03

had his own hell. These 15

17:05

years. Well, why are you so

17:08

willing to forgive. I guess that's

17:10

the question. You all here in

17:12

this room are willing to forgive

17:14

him for the deception. He didn't

17:16

hurt us. How did he hurt

17:18

us? I mean, all he ever

17:21

did here was good. There's no

17:23

reason not to forgive him. Would

17:25

you accept him back here? In

17:27

a heartbeat. No question about him.

17:29

He faked his own death. To

17:32

his wife and his children. For

17:34

15 years. They thought... He was

17:36

dead. To do that kind of

17:38

thing, to leave every single thing

17:40

you ever, ever had behind. Everybody

17:42

you knew behind. And get on

17:45

a bus penniless and just ride

17:47

to the end of the line

17:49

is an act either of incredible

17:51

cowardice or incredible bravery borne out

17:53

of desperation. What do you think

17:56

it was? I think was bravery

17:58

borne out of desperation. Kingsbury pleaded

18:00

guilty to forgery. and got four

18:02

years probation along with a $2,000

18:04

fine. But word of his false

18:06

identity never got out into the

18:09

community. Never made the newspapers. Never

18:11

made. The local news. I think

18:13

it is out of respect for

18:15

Tim that people didn't gossip, that

18:17

didn't talk. People in the courthouse

18:20

knew, people in the probation office

18:22

knew, lots of people knew. But

18:24

they saw no need to rub

18:26

Tim's nose in the dirt. And

18:28

Patrick Welsh was allowed to continue

18:31

his life in Galveston as Tim

18:33

Kingsbury. But because of the forgery

18:35

conviction, he had to use his

18:37

old social security number, triggering a

18:39

chain of events in Ohio that

18:41

would ultimately lead to his arrest.

18:44

And the model citizen left Galveston

18:46

in handcuffs. It's too simple to

18:48

say, why did you do it?

18:50

Patrick Welch faces his family. I

18:52

had questions for him. For the

18:55

first time in 15 years. It

18:57

really is like someone coming back

18:59

from the dead. And Elizabeth seeks

19:01

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you get your podcast. I don't

19:39

have a sense of anger in

19:41

this, but I do have a

19:43

very strong sense of justice. Mr.

19:45

Rush, why did you think your

19:47

own death? I know. that if

19:49

this were any other person. Mr.

19:51

Welch is it really could be

19:53

bad? And Patrick Wash. I'm glad

19:55

to be maybe getting this thing

19:57

behind you. charming or ticking. Do

19:59

you have anything to say to

20:01

your ex-wife and your two sons

20:04

who haven't seen you in the

20:06

last 15 years? That person already

20:08

would have been behind bars. When

20:10

Elizabeth Walsh discovered her ex-husband was

20:12

alive and well, she had a

20:14

difficult decision to make. How far

20:16

was I willing to make another

20:18

exception for Pat? It's too simple

20:20

to say, why did you do

20:22

it? And can I turn to

20:24

my sons and say, You were

20:26

disposable people? I wanted to know

20:29

who I was. It's okay because

20:31

look at all the good he's

20:33

done in Galveston. I had questions

20:35

for him. This is wrong. Where

20:37

did he go wrong? For the

20:39

sake of her children. Where could

20:41

I go right? Where could I

20:43

go right? Elizabeth pursued the man

20:45

who had faked his own death

20:47

and abandoned them 15 years early.

20:49

I sent him an email to

20:51

the attention of Tim Kingsbury. I

20:53

know. Call me. When that didn't

20:56

work. Did you hear of Backlebison?

20:58

No. What did you say? A

21:00

very comfortable lifestyle. A very visible

21:02

person. With a Ford Explorer and

21:04

a convertible in the driveway of

21:06

his waterfront home. Certainly a better

21:08

style of life than he had

21:10

provided for Ted and Chris. She

21:12

came home from her Galveston trip

21:14

and said, you know what? Elizabeth's

21:16

sister, Claire. While the boys and

21:18

I ate macaroni and cheese, Pat's

21:20

been drinking margaritas. Did that make

21:23

you angry? It amazed me. It

21:25

absolutely amazed me. Elizabeth felt she

21:27

had no choice but to call

21:29

the authorities and have him brought

21:31

back to Ohio. It really is

21:33

like someone coming back from the

21:35

dead and bringing mystery with them.

21:37

On January 31, 1998. This is

21:39

state of Ohio versus Patrick Tennessee

21:41

Welsh. Almost 15 years to the

21:43

day he left his home and

21:45

family. A motion was filed for

21:47

a reduction in bond. Patrick Welsh

21:50

was arrested and charged with insurance

21:52

fraud and non-support of his two

21:54

sons. This is not a situation

21:56

where people have been harmed or

21:58

anybody has... His defense attorney, Sam

22:00

Weiner, is trying to get his

22:02

$300,000 bond reduced. This man is

22:04

really no threat to society and

22:06

certainly no threat to lead the

22:08

jurisdiction. So he can be released

22:10

to his girlfriend and Anderson and

22:12

wait out his trial back in

22:15

Galveston. When he asked to be

22:17

released from bond, what he's saying

22:19

is, trust me. Bob Beckert is

22:21

the Licking County District Attorney. I

22:23

understand this is not a murder

22:25

case, but I do take strong

22:27

exception to Mr. Weiner's characterization of

22:29

this case as one without victims.

22:31

There are in fact real victims

22:33

in this case who have suffered

22:35

real harm. The motion for reduction

22:37

in bond is denied. Clear the

22:39

hallway, please. When this whole thing's

22:42

over, I may never see him

22:44

again. I will never know that

22:46

until it's over. So even though

22:48

you see him now in shackles

22:50

and in prison gear, at least

22:52

to get to see him. That's

22:54

great. I have a father for

22:56

this brief moment. With Pat Walsh

22:58

sitting in jail. I'm not angry,

23:00

I'm not nervous. I'm unable to

23:02

run from his problems this time.

23:04

I'm here to see what he

23:06

has in terms of plans for

23:09

his future. Elizabeth and her son's

23:11

finally had a chance to confront

23:13

him, face to face, for the

23:15

first time in 15 years. Not

23:17

our future, but his future, as

23:19

it still affects, something that for

23:21

him became a liability, and for

23:23

me, became the greatest assets of

23:25

our kids. What do you think

23:27

he wants? Out of jail. 30

23:31

minutes later. He said right off

23:33

the top, he was sorry, I

23:35

didn't believe him, just like pressing

23:37

charges. I had to press him

23:39

to think about the reality of

23:41

what he's facing now and that

23:43

he can't just fantasize about returning

23:46

to Galveston. What was it like

23:48

the moment you walked into that

23:50

jail and show him? It was

23:52

a lot like looking into him

23:54

here. We mimicked each other almost.

23:56

He said, I... I love you

23:59

and I said take care of

24:01

yourself. I'm gonna go hide. I

24:03

brought up the boys. It was

24:05

clearly painful for him. I expressed

24:07

to him that he really needs

24:09

to show some sort of admission

24:11

to his family, to my mother,

24:14

to my brother, and to me

24:16

that he has indeed done us

24:18

wrong. When he told you that

24:20

he loved you, did you believe

24:22

it? I don't know. I wanted

24:24

to, but I don't. I don't

24:27

know if I can trust him.

24:29

More important than words are the

24:31

actions. He can say he's sorry,

24:33

but he has to show me

24:35

he's sorry. And he has yet

24:37

to do that. Pat Walsh pleads

24:39

no context to eight felony and

24:42

four misdemeanor counts of fraud and

24:44

non-support. So he not only needs

24:46

his family's forgiveness. Mr. Wells, do

24:48

you agree with the facts as

24:50

has been stated by the prosecutor?

24:52

He's also at the mercy of

24:55

the court. Are you entering the

24:57

police or changing the police? Freely

24:59

and voluntarily knowing what your rights

25:01

are. Yes, your honor. Coming up.

25:03

You have no conscience. Your acts

25:05

were cowardly and they were criminal.

25:08

Judgment day for Patrick Welsh. And

25:10

for that, you will be punished.

25:12

But first. You have to lift

25:14

up a low rock in a

25:16

wet place to find anybody as

25:18

sorry as he is. The tide

25:20

turns in Galveston. How

25:35

did Patrick Welch, a father who disappeared,

25:37

managed to outrun his past for so

25:39

long? Maybe it's because some of the

25:41

people who got to know him in

25:44

his new life, alias Tim Kingsbury, simply

25:46

wanted to believe the best about people.

25:48

Or maybe they just didn't want to

25:51

know the worst. However it happened now,

25:53

after 15 years, a dad's double life

25:55

is finally... catching up with him. Here

25:57

again there's Harold Dow in Galveston where

26:00

they are changing there too. While Patrick

26:02

Welsh sits in an Ohio jail, back

26:04

in Galveston, the tide of public support

26:07

has begun to turn against him. I

26:09

think he's probably one of the great

26:11

con men of all times. A.R. Schwartz

26:13

is known to everyone here as Bay.

26:16

I think Bessler's con men, foragers, liars,

26:18

cheats, and thieves ought to do hard

26:20

time when they're caught. As majority owner

26:22

of the local radio station, Schwartz hired

26:25

Patrick Welsh alias Tim Kingsbury, Tim Kingsbury,

26:27

as General. In his application he said

26:29

he was single. He said he had

26:32

no children. And he gave his name

26:34

and he gave a fictitious social security

26:36

number. Schwartz, a former state senator, admits

26:38

he's one of many people in Galveston

26:41

who got duped by Wells. She calmed

26:43

me pretty good and I don't like

26:45

it. I don't like being conned, I

26:48

don't like being that stupid. And Schwartz

26:50

says, the Galveston County District Attorney, Mike

26:52

Guarino, was also conned. I have written

26:54

the district attorney and I've told him

26:57

he got con too. Even though Guarino

26:59

charged Wells with forgery and knew that

27:01

this well-known public figure was living a

27:04

lie, he never announced that accusation publicly.

27:06

This man goes before the court, goes

27:08

before the district attorney, how come nobody

27:10

in the community knows about this? I

27:13

don't know if it. He'd have been

27:15

in a newspaper. Some people bought the

27:17

district attorney should have called a press

27:20

conference, should have had his picture plastered

27:22

out there for the entire community to

27:24

see. What's your response to that? The

27:26

district attorney is not a publicist or

27:29

the town crier, so to speak. He's

27:31

the prosecutor. He's got to prosecute the

27:33

case. Which Guarino says he did, right

27:35

by the book. We really didn't handle

27:38

it any differently than we would have

27:40

handled, you know. a forgery case of

27:42

this nature. He admits he knew about

27:45

Welsh's abandoned family in Ohio. Did you

27:47

know he was married? With children? Yes,

27:49

we did know because he had walked

27:51

away from a family. We had no

27:54

current information on them or their whereabouts.

27:56

But at the court hearing to determine

27:58

Welsh's sentence... Guarino never informed the judge

28:01

about Elizabeth and their two sons. Judge

28:03

Carmona, the district judge, got conned. Never

28:05

in his lifetime would he have given

28:07

Patrick Wells probation had he known that

28:10

Patrick Wells abandoned his wife and children.

28:12

District Court Judge Frank Carmona confirmed to

28:14

48 hours that he was not told

28:17

about Welsh's family. Warino says he never

28:19

brought it up because it was not

28:21

a legal issue relevant to the forgery

28:23

case. Did you feel it was your

28:26

responsibility to try to seek out and

28:28

locate the wife, the children of Patrick

28:30

Welsh? No, at the time we did

28:33

not. We did not think about it.

28:35

We notified all the agencies that we

28:37

thought were proper, including the Ohio side

28:39

of the equation. We thought they would

28:42

seek them out. But we really didn't

28:44

think about it. Hindsight is 2020. I'd

28:46

probably do it today. He's not admitted

28:48

publicly that he was conned like the

28:51

rest of us, but he should. But

28:54

Swartz is far more upset at

28:56

his partner Vandy Anderson, co-owner of

28:58

the radio station, and brother of

29:00

Kingsbury's girlfriend. I put it all

29:02

on his back, because he knew

29:04

every bit of it. Vandy was

29:06

on the air. Vandy was on

29:08

the air every day. Vandy was

29:11

on the air every day. Vandy

29:13

was on the air every day.

29:15

Swartz believes Anderson had an obligation

29:17

on the air and gives a

29:19

news. Because of that, Swartz fired

29:21

Anderson as news broadcaster. According to

29:23

Babe, this man known as Tim

29:25

Kingsbury, conned you. Conned your sister.

29:27

Conned everybody. Sure. Do you feel

29:29

like you've been conned? No. Not

29:32

at all. Anderson's sister Anne remains

29:34

loyal to him as well. She

29:36

supports him a hundred percent. I

29:38

think they'll be together the rest

29:40

of their lives. Do you think

29:42

he conned your sister? No, I

29:44

think we all knew that there

29:46

was a past that we just

29:48

didn't want to know what it

29:50

was. Ann Anderson declined our request

29:52

for an interview. This guy had

29:55

caught my sister. My first inclination

29:57

would be to beat the hell

29:59

out of him. What we know

30:01

him as is a good person.

30:03

If he did something years ago

30:05

that was bad, he's made up

30:07

for that, I think in his

30:09

own life, I hope so. And

30:11

that's how we know him. But

30:13

as the story unfolds, others in

30:15

Galveston aren't so forgiving. The guy

30:18

belongs in orange jumpsuit. I guarantee

30:20

you, two years in the general

30:22

prison population will make a brand

30:24

new man out of it. Doug

30:26

McLeod, chairman of Moody Gardens, a

30:28

top tourist attraction, worked with Kingsbury

30:30

in various civic groups. This guy

30:32

was in fact nicknamed the Amazing

30:34

Tim. That's understandable now because he

30:36

gained this trust. Everyone felt like

30:39

this guy was most trustworthy. person

30:41

in the world. McCloud believes the

30:43

people of Galveston are wiser from

30:45

the whole experience. If a new

30:47

person came to town tomorrow and

30:49

donated a lot of time to

30:51

community efforts, do you think it's

30:53

still checking out? I think I

30:55

know the answer is just ahead.

30:57

Elizabeth Walsh wishes to make a

30:59

statement. Thank you, Your Honor. The

31:02

public confrontation. Every father's state for

31:04

the past 15 years. was stolen

31:06

from the lives of your sons.

31:08

What will be the punishment for

31:10

Patrick Welch's deception? You're telling me

31:12

you're not angry of this man.

31:14

I'm not angry with this man.

31:16

Not even old. I don't believe

31:18

so. It's been seven months since

31:20

Patrick Walsh was brought back from

31:22

the dead. He has chosen his

31:25

course and I have chosen mine.

31:27

And today. I feel that I...

31:29

have done the right thing for

31:31

my sons. Judgment day for the

31:33

charges of non-support and insurance fraud.

31:35

Pat maintains that he believes he

31:37

did the right thing when he

31:39

deserted us. Besides facing his punishment.

31:41

This is the state of Ohio

31:43

versus Patrick Kennedy Welsh. Pat Welsh

31:45

must also face his family, including

31:48

his own father. Elizabeth Walsh comes

31:50

to court with a new look

31:52

and new determination that what she

31:54

did was right. Today's date is

31:56

May 21, 1998. We're here today

31:58

for the purposes of sentence. I've

32:00

made it clear from the beginning

32:02

that I believe a term in

32:04

prison is appropriate in this case.

32:06

It seems to me this is

32:09

this man's third felony conviction. For

32:11

that fact alone, he ought to

32:13

go to prison. Welch has pleaded

32:15

no contest. This court finds that

32:17

the defendant is guilty as charged.

32:19

And it will be sentenced by

32:21

Judge Gregory Frost. But first, the

32:23

court has been informed that Elizabeth

32:25

Welch wishes to make a statement

32:27

and also Christopher I believe wishes

32:29

to make a statement. Ms. Wells?

32:32

Thank you, your honor. Pat, you

32:34

started on this sad journey by

32:36

stealing money from Ohio State University,

32:38

from your father, and from mine.

32:40

You took our love, you took

32:42

our trust, you took our innocence,

32:44

our home, and any hope we

32:46

had for a normal life. Every

32:48

trip to Colorado. Every South Padre

32:50

Island vacation, every Christmas, every Easter,

32:52

every Fourth of July, every father's

32:55

day for the past 15 years

32:57

was stolen from the lives of

32:59

your sons. Instead of being a

33:01

father that they can respect and

33:03

emulate, you are a 50-year-old kept

33:05

man. And what was I to

33:07

make of your last letters to

33:09

me? Do you remember what you

33:11

wrote? You are my light and

33:13

my deepest love. You know how

33:16

much I treasure life. I treasure

33:18

you and your future more. You

33:20

know how much you are a

33:22

part of me. So I hope

33:24

you know that a part of

33:26

me will live on. Know that

33:28

there was no one on earth

33:30

that I cherished more. But you

33:32

did cherish someone more, Pat. And

33:34

that person was you. I'm sorry

33:36

for you, Pat. Christopher, do you

33:39

wish to make a statement? Yes.

33:41

Come forward. How can you turn

33:43

your back on a family that

33:45

loves you? How can you in

33:47

one breath? Say you love somebody

33:49

and then turn your back and

33:51

run. How for 15 years can

33:53

you never call your sons and

33:55

say hello? How can you look

33:57

me in the eye right now?

34:00

I hope you'd think about this and

34:02

maybe give me some sort of reply.

34:05

Finally, Mr. Wells, is there anything

34:07

you wish to say before the court

34:09

pronounces sentence in this matter? Yes,

34:11

your honor. You may proceed. Ted and

34:14

Chris, I love you deeply. I really

34:16

do. The great sadness of my life

34:18

is that because of what I've

34:20

done, you may never know how much

34:23

I love you or how much

34:25

I missed you. Petey, I'm sorry. I

34:27

did a wonderful job with the boys.

34:29

I'm sorry for what I've done. And

34:32

I'm ready to continue my punishment.

34:34

Thank you. Mr. Welch. And finally,

34:36

with Elizabeth, Chris, and Pat's

34:38

father Richard watching. You have

34:40

no conscience. Your acts were

34:42

cowardly, and they were criminal.

34:44

His sentence. And for that, you

34:47

will be punished. You therefore

34:49

have a total sentence to

34:51

be served of four years

34:53

at the Orient Correctional and

34:55

receiving sentence. There is restitution

34:57

to be made and you

34:59

will pay every penny of

35:01

that. Four years of prison

35:03

and over $92,000 in funds.

35:05

Is this ever going to

35:07

be over for you? Doesn't

35:09

come to closure exactly

35:11

what this part of

35:13

it does. The hurtful

35:15

part of it that

35:18

involved. Deception, betrayal, hardship,

35:20

is done. It's done. It's done.

35:22

Now it gets settled. The

35:24

debts get settled. Next.

35:26

I know I did bad

35:28

things. I knew I did

35:30

terrible things. Pat Welch tells

35:32

his side of the story. I

35:34

need to explain that I

35:37

never stopped being a

35:39

loving father. I know I did

35:41

bad things. I knew I did

35:44

terrible things. But I tried... Once

35:46

and for all to make something positive

35:48

of my life in Galveston. Patrick Walsh

35:50

has never spoken publicly about his disappearance.

35:52

I need to explain that I never

35:55

stopped being a loving father. Until now.

35:57

I did this thing to make life

35:59

better. for my boys without having

36:01

to live under the shadow of

36:03

this criminal who was Pat Welch.

36:06

We've seen pictures of you with

36:08

the boys and you look so

36:10

happy. You look like the model

36:12

dad. What happens to a guy?

36:14

How do you go from that

36:16

to doing what you did? I

36:18

mean it was very very vivid

36:21

in my mind when it happened.

36:23

I had had told Elizabeth that

36:25

I was going to pay her

36:27

father back money that I didn't

36:29

have. That was January 21, 1983.

36:31

the day Pat Walsh disappeared. I

36:34

thought there was some way I

36:36

could get that money and when

36:38

I couldn't get that money, I

36:40

knew that what was going to

36:42

ensue was just the disintegration of

36:44

everything. And I said, this is

36:46

it, this is the moment that

36:49

I have to just go kill

36:51

myself. Did you really intend to

36:53

kill yourself? Absolutely, absolutely. I went

36:55

to the edge of the pier.

36:57

I was a bad person to

36:59

myself. I thought they would eventually

37:02

be happy to have been rid

37:04

of that bad person. In the

37:06

end, I couldn't face that. In

37:08

the last second, you can't say

37:10

you're sorry for killing yourself. The

37:12

person that I just saw in

37:15

those tapes was acting. Forty-eight hours

37:17

showed Pat's interview. I did a

37:19

bad thing. To Elizabeth and her

37:21

sons. My interpretation was that he

37:23

was acting the part of someone

37:25

who was supposed to be contrite.

37:27

who dearly loved his sons and

37:30

was really trying to do the

37:32

right thing by them. How did

37:34

you come up with the name?

37:36

Tim Kingsbury. Looked in a newspaper

37:38

for someone who was born about

37:40

that time. Really, just looked in

37:43

the newspaper, saw this name, said

37:45

that sounds good. Yeah. Why Texas?

37:47

Far away. I've never known anyone

37:49

from Ohio who'd ever gone to

37:51

Texas. Couldn't afford to go to

37:53

the East Coast or to California,

37:55

Texas. You say you did this

37:58

for your family? What

38:00

did you think was going to

38:02

happen to them? How did you

38:04

think they were going to get

38:06

by? I knew that my family

38:08

had the resources to take care

38:11

of the boys. I knew that

38:13

Elizabeth was beautiful and talented and

38:15

someone else would come into her

38:17

life and become a new father

38:19

for the boys. But that's not

38:21

how things worked out. I'm lucky

38:24

that I had a lot of

38:26

books to read and... and I

38:28

had Chris and my mom and

38:30

Aunt Claire around and he, we

38:32

didn't, we never did find another

38:34

dad. Did you like being a

38:36

husband and father? Oh sure, sure,

38:39

that was, uh, was absolutely wonderful.

38:41

Trust, there's no trust there whatsoever.

38:43

I mean, I cannot trust this

38:45

man at all. I

38:47

do not trust anything he says. In

38:50

those 15 years, how often did you

38:52

think about the boys? Every day. Every

38:54

day. Every day. Why not just pick

38:56

up the phone and call? Hi. I

38:59

just wanted you to know. I'm alive.

39:01

I'm here. I did this for this

39:03

reason, that reason or whatever. But I'm

39:05

here. It was bothering you so much.

39:08

Why couldn't you do that? I thought

39:10

about picking up the phone and calling

39:12

them. Those are the times when you

39:15

would say the... the price I'm paying

39:17

is not knowing and I'm going to

39:19

pay that price today. Let me just

39:21

make sure I understand this, but you

39:24

thought you were punishing yourself by not

39:26

picking up the phone and calling me.

39:28

Exactly. I mean, it's... I certainly wouldn't

39:30

have brought them any joy. You know

39:33

what they told me when I first

39:35

met them? I was so happy. I

39:37

had a dad. My father is still

39:40

alive. So maybe if you picked up

39:42

the phone, it wouldn't have been as

39:44

bad as you thought. Thanks for telling

39:46

me that. I keep thinking that how

39:49

can you say these things and keep

39:51

a straight face. Would you like to

39:53

have a relationship with Ted and Chris?

39:55

Absolutely, I want it desperately. I know

39:58

I don't deserve it. I know it's

40:00

on their terms. But when that day

40:02

comes, I hope it does come. When

40:05

that day comes, I hope it's pure.

40:07

and simple that when they see me,

40:09

they're glad. But since Pat Walsh is

40:11

sentencing, Ted and Chris say their father

40:14

has not contacted them. He's obviously erased

40:16

my brother and I from his lives.

40:18

What do you owe the boys? What

40:20

do you think you owe the boys?

40:23

Game of catch. Game of catch. You

40:25

can't even say he's a father. There's

40:27

nothing behind those words. Despite his four-year

40:29

sentence, I'll pay my debt. Pat Walsh

40:32

is likely to be released in a

40:34

few months. And I'll make a contribution

40:36

to this world. And plans on returning

40:39

to Galveston. As Tim or as Pat?

40:41

As Pat. I mean, there's no charade

40:43

anymore. That's my name. I gotta tell

40:45

you, Elizabeth has been very gracious when

40:48

it comes to you. She's a better

40:50

person than I am. She really is.

40:53

I don't know why

40:55

I would expect anything

40:57

else. In 1999, Patrick

40:59

Welch was released from

41:01

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41:03

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