Forest fall to Everton & Arsenal come unstuck against the Bees

Forest fall to Everton & Arsenal come unstuck against the Bees

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It's that time again

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your say about your

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club Chris and I

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taking your calls until 9

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p.m. tonight earlier There was

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more noise magic on the

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banks of the Trent Oh,

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bad day for your Nottingham

1:23

Forest Hill, Everton won! Oh,

1:25

a bad day for your

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Nottingham Forestside, Christopher, the chasing

1:30

pack of closing in. Is

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there any danger they could

1:34

miss out on the Champions

1:37

League after such a good

1:39

season, Christopher? Well, there is

1:41

a danger, Robert. I... Oh, do

1:43

you believe in them? Officially, well I'm

1:46

worried, Rob, Nuno's done a brilliant job,

1:48

but you think that the chasing back

1:50

now in Manchester City, Aston Villa, Chelsea,

1:52

Newcastle, how far do you want to

1:54

go down? Nottingham Forest under pressure, how

1:56

do you feel about it? Not a

1:59

good forest fan? And Everton fans can

2:01

David Moyes take you back into

2:03

Europe next season. The number to

2:05

call is 0825, 909-693. After taking

2:08

down rail, Madrid, the gunners have

2:10

the bees in their sights today.

2:12

Rice is going to run into

2:14

the penalty area. Thomas Party! Scores

2:16

for Arsenal. Collins nods it down.

2:19

Whissa! It's in, it's an equaliser.

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Brentford! Have got their first shot

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on target on target on the

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second half. Arsenal's lead is gone.

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notice. So I draw today Christopher,

2:43

but it's all about the chap,

2:45

Miss Lee, for us. So this

2:47

week, can you believe I'd call

2:50

us last weekend, saying our tetta

2:52

should go? No I can't, absolutely

2:54

ridiculous. Brilliant in the Champions League.

2:56

I've got to say Robert, I

2:58

don't know what you think. They're

3:01

sort of falling away with a

3:03

win-pah in the Premier League, not

3:05

putting Liverpool under any sort of

3:07

pressure. I'm a bit disappointed with

3:10

Arsenal in the Premier League, I'm

3:12

a bit disappointed with Arsenal in

3:14

the Premier League, who's the best

3:16

team? Well Liverpool because they've won

3:18

the Premier League. Do you think

3:21

Liverpool are better better? Well, I

3:23

don't know whether you, the way

3:25

you look at league tables, Rob,

3:27

but I would look at Liverpool.

3:29

Who's the best team in Europe?

3:32

Who's the best team in Europe?

3:34

Well, Arsenal, because the team in

3:36

the Champions League, they'll be the

3:38

best team in Europe. Because Liverpool

3:41

are ahead of them in the

3:43

Premier League. How do you view

3:45

league tables Robert? Oh thank you

3:47

Christopher and then so we'll come

3:49

on there Chris who else you

3:52

need from tonight? Oh I wonder

3:54

here from South Hampton fans how

3:56

depressing once again absolutely spank by

3:58

Aston Villa did you see essential

4:00

miss two penalties Villa fans will

4:03

be delighted but from South Hampton

4:05

fans point of view not that

4:07

I was saying essentially are missing

4:09

a couple of penalties not delighted

4:12

about him missing a couple of

4:14

penalties but their result they're pushing

4:16

but Southampton fans you've sacked even

4:18

you're rich who do you want

4:20

to see in the job next

4:23

up and I want to hear

4:25

from Bernie and Leeds United fans

4:27

Rob really decisive day in the

4:29

the championship you both won Sheffield United

4:32

lost look like it kicked off at

4:34

the end of the end of the

4:36

game Chris Wilder are in the tunnel

4:38

but Sheffield United fans your five points

4:40

are drift now as this is defining

4:43

day in the championship automatic promotion places

4:45

tight at the bottom as well loot

4:47

and losing to our old club black

4:49

men rovers who's gonna go down and

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in Scotland a Celtic win today Rob

4:54

I was there means if range is

4:56

slip up tomorrow at Aberdeen they will

4:58

be crowned champions and Liverpool fans the

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news you all wanted to hear

5:02

Mosala staying for another two years

5:05

Rob just how big is that

5:07

for Liverpool, want to hear from

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Liverpool fans and it looks like

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Van Dyke's going to sign as

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well, Rob. Mmm, you have your

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support, whatever you watch your football,

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call us on OH85, 9963. Oh,

5:20

I'll have a bit of the

5:22

Masters, Chris, I think we'll be

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going to coverage all through 606.

5:26

Rory, just birdied the first to

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go to seven under. Whoa! It's

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quite tight, isn't it, Rob? Um,

5:33

whereas, um, Terrell Hatter, I

5:35

think he's on four under

5:38

Chris. So yeah, listen, it's gonna

5:40

be a great night. Who'd

5:42

you, who'd you, sort of, bet

5:45

on Rob if you, I know you've

5:47

not, I don't, I don't, I don't,

5:50

I don't go. But who'd you

5:52

fancy to win then? Don't

5:54

say Rory, come on, think outside

5:56

the box. Do you, do you

5:58

ever have... I have any imagination.

6:01

Who did you want me to

6:03

say? Bernard Lange? Who did me

6:05

to say? I don't think he's

6:07

in it, is he? Yeah, he

6:09

did not watch it. It was

6:11

his last one, Chris. He just

6:13

missed the cut. He got three

6:15

over. I don't know if that

6:17

made the cut. What, it's two

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time masters champions Chris. What? What?

6:21

Yeah. That's a bit Mickey Mouse.

6:23

I've got three over on there.

6:25

What's happened to Bernard Lange? He's

6:27

more of, what a golfer, he

6:29

is still, right now he is,

6:31

he's still playing, 67 years of

6:33

age, unbelievable. Right, let's go to

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John Everton, how are you, John?

6:38

Hi Robbie, I am Chris, listen,

6:40

it's all about David Moyes, Evan,

6:42

at the moment, he's done an

6:44

absolutely unbelievable job, he's got the

6:46

players playing, I'm sorry Chris. I

6:48

think you'll lose to Manchester City

6:50

playing like that in the FA

6:52

Cup and you won't make the

6:54

champions that he plays simple as.

6:56

Don't let the score and have

6:58

it and only scored in the

7:00

last minute, gloss over anything. Oh

7:02

hang on a minute John. John.

7:04

It's a minute 90. End of

7:06

story. End of story. End of

7:08

story, Chris. John, can I just

7:10

say, John, I mean, there you

7:12

are crowing and giving Nottingham forests,

7:14

or having predictions on Nottingham Forest.

7:16

I'm just seeing your 11 places

7:19

below Nottingham Forest in the table.

7:21

Are you in the FA Cup,

7:23

John? John? John. John? John? John.

7:25

Well, no, that'd be nice. I

7:27

bet that'd be nice to be

7:29

in the semi-final. Listen, I'm just,

7:31

I'm just, no, I'm just stating,

7:33

in fact, that's all in, today,

7:35

you would totally outplayed. If you

7:37

want to play the wrong ball

7:39

to Chris Wood, then Chris Wood's

7:41

not on sort. There's nothing else,

7:43

the forest didn't have a plan

7:45

be or plan, see? That's it.

7:47

You've got what he's heard today.

7:49

So I'm not saying that... Hang

7:51

on a minute. Route one Everton.

7:53

Route one Everton. Route one Everton

7:55

fan. That's what you come... on

7:58

and I've seen another game. I've

8:00

seen enough of every season of

8:02

the game because what we've done

8:04

is the ball on the part

8:06

that played it on the grass.

8:08

They just pump it forward to

8:10

Chris. That's all they did today.

8:12

Watch the game back, Chris, and

8:14

then pull me up. And I'm

8:16

not saying that I'm not about

8:18

murder side, Darwin. I'm on about

8:20

today. That's what we're talking about

8:22

today's game. Don't deflect from something

8:24

else. I'm on about today. The

8:26

truth of the matter. Anyone in

8:28

the champion of league playing football

8:30

that way. Simple as that, that's

8:33

just being honest. We've been awful

8:35

for the last three years. You

8:37

can deflect from that and we've

8:39

struggled forever some football club. It's

8:41

a disgrace where we've been absolutely

8:43

disgraceful, but little building blocks is

8:46

what we've got to start with.

8:48

John, John, stay there, John, because

8:50

we're bringing Ben who's a Nottingham for

8:52

his fan, how are you Ben? I'm really

8:54

well, I'm really well, thank you. Forest's

8:56

fan, go on John saying what you thought

8:59

of about Forest today. How many times did

9:01

you pass the ball over three times

9:03

before you humped it long? Tell me,

9:05

one month, tell me how many times,

9:07

not once, because you didn't end up

9:09

studying, nothing else to say, all you

9:11

were doing was humping it forward to

9:13

Chris Wood. And you know what, on

9:15

the way on, Jared Brathwaite stopped to

9:17

get some fuel. and he opened his

9:19

wallet to pay for it and you

9:21

know what? Chris Wood fell out of

9:23

it. That's what a comfortable afternoon that

9:25

he had today. Seriously, for a minute

9:27

once, a minute 90 and the forest

9:29

ran instead. It was a bad day at the office.

9:32

John, can I just, John? John, John,

9:34

John, Chris Wood wouldn't have fallen out

9:36

of his wallet as, out of his pocket.

9:38

Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

9:40

John, John, most of what you're saying, my

9:42

friend, I don't disagree with it, it was,

9:45

it was a poor performance from Forrest, and

9:47

I think the frustration amongst the fan base

9:49

is that even games that we've lost this

9:51

season, like Aston Villa last week, for example,

9:53

even games that we've lost, there have been

9:55

many positives that we've been able to take

9:58

away. Today there were none, Everton came. and

10:00

they were the best side they were

10:02

good for the three points. And yeah,

10:04

I mean, we're beginning to find out

10:06

the hard way, the challenges that come

10:08

when you're competing in the Premier League

10:10

in those final weeks, the depth of

10:12

squad that teams around us have, we

10:14

can't match that I think we're beginning

10:16

to show some cracks. That said, you

10:18

know, and as Chris said, you know,

10:20

we're 11 points north of you, so

10:22

I think it's a little bit rich

10:24

coming from up north, you know, this,

10:26

that and the other, when we're actually

10:28

say we're going to Wembley, we're in

10:31

third. and we're grateful for the

10:33

season we're having. Yeah John. Can

10:35

I just correct you there Ben,

10:37

you're 19 points clear of

10:39

Everton? Okay, okay. Eleven places. Which

10:42

is, yeah, 11 places. John, are

10:44

you still there or have you,

10:46

have you, have you popped up?

10:48

Oh, I'm still here. No, no,

10:50

no, no. No, no. No, not

10:52

bragging about any place. But I'm

10:55

in comparison to what we've been

10:57

used to for the last three

10:59

years under two. substandard coaches are

11:01

evident. We can't, we can't play

11:03

the way that we've had over

11:06

the last three years because it's

11:08

been awful. Things have got to

11:10

change and things are changing. It's

11:12

a new, we're getting rid of

11:14

players in the summer. The deadwood

11:16

has got to go before we

11:18

can get fresh. Who's the deadwood?

11:20

Do you want me to start

11:22

naming what players? Start going through

11:24

them. Right. Dominic Calvert Lewin.

11:26

He's played seven times in two

11:29

and a half years. Top earner

11:31

at the club is not good

11:33

enough. Well he's got to go.

11:35

Listen, how many fans? You listen

11:38

to our Everton fans. Jack Harrison,

11:40

not good enough for Everton. Sorry

11:42

he's playing and that. Harrison's got

11:44

to go. We've got, Michael Keene's

11:47

gonna go. I think that's always

11:49

going to go at the end

11:51

of the season as well. So

11:53

I'm saying, but I mean, things

11:55

like Ashley Young has come to the

11:58

end of the line. Nearly 50. He's

12:00

going to want to, he's going

12:02

to want to sign for evidence.

12:04

So many others. And Gala's not

12:06

going to come back, is he,

12:09

the players that got injured, do

12:11

you know what I mean? He's

12:13

another player that's going to go.

12:15

Lindstrom's not going to come. So

12:17

I'm saying, you're starting to get

12:19

into quite high figures. Well, have you

12:22

been to the new stadium? Have you been there Chris?

12:24

Well, hang on. No, no. Hang on, you didn't want

12:26

to, you didn't want to, you don't want to, listen,

12:28

if you don't want to play, listen, if you don't

12:30

want to play for one of the biggest clubs in

12:32

the country, with a fancy fan, I don't sign for

12:35

it, but I wanted to, John, John, listen, John, John,

12:37

God, thank you, because we had to, we were meant

12:39

to be getting view, and we were meant to be

12:41

getting view, and we ended up, and we ended up,

12:43

getting, getting, getting, getting, getting, getting, getting, getting, getting, getting,

12:45

getting, getting, Thank you so much for the call Ben.

12:48

Thank you so much for the call Ben. Thank you

12:50

so much. Oh wow. You've got dropping that one

12:52

and you're better than that. You're

12:54

better than that. Your mate ABB would

12:56

have heard that. He's at the Masters

12:59

ABB. What's the update? I'll tell you

13:01

what Robbie if you'd let John keep

13:03

going there you'd have said savage out

13:06

and sudden out as well it was

13:08

lucky you you stopped him when you

13:10

did welcome to sunny Augusta we've got

13:13

a thrilling day's golfing prospect here commentary

13:15

at the moment is over on radio

13:17

five sports extra Rory McRue has made

13:19

a supremely confident start to the third

13:22

round he has birdied the first he

13:24

hit his drive get this 371 yards

13:26

down the first booming big drive over

13:29

the bunker over the bunker Saturday on

13:31

movie day at the Masters. Yeah. Have

13:33

you seen the Shambles put

13:35

then to go 800? There you

13:37

go, there you go, Robbie, there

13:40

you go. So the Shambo goes

13:42

into a share of the league

13:44

with Justin Rose. That's a long

13:46

part he's hold from the back

13:48

of the first. Makaro is just

13:50

one shot behind on seven under.

13:53

I said, I tell you what,

13:55

I said Shane Lowry at the

13:57

start of the week and he's

13:59

six. under par. Has he won a

14:01

major? Has he won a major? Yes

14:04

he has a good tip that baby,

14:06

well done. Well done. Bruce, do you

14:08

know tell me about your drive on

14:10

the first when we had a game?

14:12

I'll tell you about my drive on

14:14

the first when we had a game.

14:16

I'll tell you about my drive on

14:18

the first when I played with you.

14:21

went about 25 yards, didn't it? Off

14:23

the first two, love and love. Chris

14:25

and I were paired together and I

14:27

think he thought, oh my goodness. We

14:29

did all right in the end. We

14:31

did all right in the end. 20

14:33

yards longer than Chris's. Yeah, exactly. I

14:35

tell you what, I tell you what,

14:38

just hold here guys, Justin Rosa can

14:40

see putting on the first here. So

14:42

he's our leader at eight under party.

14:44

He's Mr. ABB. He missed it. Well

14:46

how can you be ahead of me?

14:48

It's turning from rocks to left. It's

14:50

just going past the hole. And I

14:52

tell you what Robbie, I think he's

14:55

got about four feet left there to

14:57

try and save his pass. So that's

14:59

a little tester coming. Yeah, the old

15:01

hand tremble. I'd miss that Bruce. I'd

15:03

not get six feet back. I've got

15:05

I've gone pencil grip now Chris. I've

15:07

changed the pattern grip. I've gone pencil

15:09

grip. ABB will come back to it.

15:12

Thank you so much. ABB at the

15:14

Masters. He's quite good golfer sports extra.

15:16

Bruce, you know, is he? Yeah, steady.

15:18

So it hits everything about 70 yards.

15:20

What's his gear? Like was he turning

15:22

up in? Oh, but he's like long

15:24

socks tucked into his trousers. The old

15:26

red trousers, waistcoat and stuff. Long socks

15:29

tucked into the trousers. Yeah, all that

15:31

stuff. Yeah, shorts. Right, let's go, oh,

15:33

let's go to Anthony. How's some fan?

15:35

Well, I think that results tonight sums

15:37

up our season. Couldn't kill Brentford off.

15:39

Oh, answer the answer to you, I've

15:41

got to stop you there. Wow, what

15:43

is that Rory macaroid just at ABB?

15:46

He's just chipped in for Eagle, Robbie,

15:48

you wouldn't believe it on the second.

15:50

He's birdied the first, he is eagle

15:52

the second, the par five second, another

15:54

monster drive. Second was a towering iron

15:56

shot that went over the back of

15:58

the green and he's just hit the

16:00

perfect chip from the back of the...

16:03

It takes the slope, it rolls right

16:05

to left, and it just creeps into

16:07

the hole on the left-hand side. That

16:09

takes him to nine under power. Rory

16:11

McElroy leads the Masters. Do you

16:13

think he can win it? ABB? Think

16:16

he'll win it? ABB? ABB? Oh!

16:18

Do you know what that would

16:20

answer the question? Wow. Do you know

16:22

why he's doing so well, Rob? He's

16:25

got a mind coach. Right? Rory

16:27

Rory. Rory. Rory. I think I'd

16:29

be really good at that. Yeah,

16:31

I've been brilliant at that, yeah,

16:33

yeah, brilliant. Anthony, how are you?

16:35

Yeah, it's inflated after watching that.

16:38

Do Arsenal need a mind

16:40

coach, Anthony? They've just beat

16:42

Real Madrid, three, Neil. I'm

16:44

talking about the Premier Rob. I

16:46

don't think we need a mind

16:48

coach, I think we need a

16:50

couple of strikers, but apart from

16:53

that, we're fine. But it's going like

16:55

that, which is why we haven't won

16:57

the league, it's... I

16:59

mean we had plenty of chances.

17:01

Plenty of chances first half

17:03

and second half. And it's just

17:05

a head scratch really. It's frustrating.

17:08

Frustrating to watch. Very frustrating. I

17:10

mean I ask Kristen if you

17:13

listen, if you win the Champions

17:15

League, hypothetically, a Liverpool win

17:17

the Premier League, who's the

17:19

better team? I've

17:23

got to be careful there because my

17:26

mum's side of Liverpool, my side, and

17:28

dad's side of... What are you? I'm

17:30

after obviously, but I mean, I would...

17:32

I'd... You'd have to say after because

17:35

they're the Kings of Europe. But I

17:37

mean, Liverpool have been the best

17:39

team in the Premier League this

17:41

season. You've got to admit that.

17:43

There's... There's no other team come

17:45

close to them. The better team

17:48

wins the Premier League. Is that

17:50

the disappointment though, Anthony, that you

17:52

have fallen away? You haven't really

17:54

put any pressure on Liverpool. Last

17:56

couple of results really have emphasised

17:58

that, haven't they? Yeah. I mean, the

18:00

last two drawers have just been,

18:03

it's like, again, it's just like,

18:05

when the final whistle goes, it's

18:07

just like, oh my God, we've

18:09

just dropped another two points. It

18:12

is frustrating, but I mean, what

18:14

we're doing in Europe at the

18:16

moment, Andy, thank you so much

18:18

for the call, because I've just

18:21

got to go to Phil Y,

18:23

who's with your manager, Michael Ateta.

18:26

Michael, you understandably made changes for the game,

18:28

didn't get the result you wanted, but how

18:30

would you reflect on the performance? Yeah, we

18:32

are disappointed with the result obviously. It's a

18:35

really tough opposition. The one we faced in,

18:37

it's not a constant result that they had,

18:39

but I think we dominated the game. We

18:41

were on top of it and with the

18:43

one knelt you have to see the game

18:45

through or score the second one with a

18:48

big opportunity with Bucaya when the keeper misses

18:50

the ball. and after that against them if

18:52

you just reach out for you don't apply

18:54

certain principles especially after third pieces are replaced

18:56

second actions they're gonna punish you and they

18:59

didn't punish us. One of the players that

19:01

you had in an unfamiliar position today Thomas

19:03

Parte did his job with that goal and

19:05

it was a wonderful goal to watch. Yeah,

19:07

he did really well. I mean, we had

19:09

an issue yesterday with Ben and Jordan wasn't

19:12

feeling enough to start the game as well,

19:14

so we have to adapt to that. We've

19:16

been doing it all season and I think

19:18

he was really good again today. You have

19:20

to end the game with 10 men. How

19:23

is Georgina? What's the problem there? I think

19:25

it's something with his rip, so he could

19:27

not carry on. He knew the consequences to

19:29

that because we already made the changes. But

19:31

again, the team still played and generated two

19:33

big chances to try to win the game.

19:36

Unfortunately, we couldn't. It's a fourth draw in

19:38

six league games. Is that kind of a

19:40

thing that frustrates you this season though? That

19:42

number of draws? Yeah, for sure, because, I

19:44

mean, the magazines have solved us more. But

19:47

when the teams that don't generate do anything

19:49

like everything, absolutely nothing, the two goals that

19:51

we have considered that cost us four points,

19:53

it's painful. Lastly for me how pleased are

19:55

you to get this game out of the

19:57

way because it feels like the calm before

20:00

the storm of Wednesday, four, he doesn't it?

20:02

All eyes are going to be on that.

20:04

We have the most beautiful game of the

20:06

season ahead of us in a few days

20:08

in Madrid, so just have to prepare and

20:11

be fully ready for it. In that respect,

20:13

it must have been very difficult to prepare.

20:15

Thanks so much, Phil, right. Let's go to...

20:17

Just Rob, that lack of a center forward

20:19

for Arsenal. It's cost them. Tottenham have scored

20:22

more goals than Arsenal this season,

20:24

Premier League. Let that sinkink in.

20:26

Where are spurs in the league? Yeah,

20:28

well I know, it's just, I'm just,

20:30

you know, we are, you know, stat-based

20:34

at times, I'm just telling

20:36

you that talking with school

20:38

more goals than Arsenal in

20:41

the Premier League. Michael, how

20:43

are you, Everton fan? I'm

20:46

delighted mate, but I have

20:48

to say, Chris has embarrassed

20:51

himself tonight, he's better

20:53

than this. 19 points, 11

20:55

places. 19 points, let's not

20:57

get confused. You know, the

20:59

thing, were you at the game today, Chris?

21:01

No, I wasn't, I covered another

21:04

game today, I can't be

21:06

at all the games, the

21:08

evidence under David was done

21:10

brilliantly. I was there, I

21:12

was also there when when

21:14

Forrest were at Gooderson earlier

21:16

in the season, and to

21:18

be honest, they used to

21:20

have real class, real class,

21:22

and their fans, a Gooderson,

21:24

would disgraceful, their fans, today

21:26

were horrible. I thought I thought your

21:28

team was better than that Chris Right

21:30

so so just I'm not aware of

21:33

this so can you can you

21:35

just describe what you mean? No

21:37

I'm not going to explain I'm

21:39

not going to expand on it

21:41

but the chanting was just disrespectful

21:44

and you know Evan fans love

21:46

a bit of banter but you

21:48

know Forrest at Gooderson was disgraceful

21:50

and I was in the main

21:52

stand today and it was It

21:54

wasn't a nice place to be

21:57

and I've been to forest a

21:59

hundred times. and it's historically always

22:01

been a really nice place to

22:03

visit and you know that the

22:06

people have been great but right

22:08

now it's a toxic atmosphere and

22:11

you're associating yourself with that with

22:13

that fan base Chris. Well Michael

22:15

can I just say we've seen

22:18

I think in a week where

22:20

we've seen Pepp Gardiola speak out

22:23

about the the abuse. Let me

22:25

just let me just finish let

22:27

me just finish okay the point

22:30

you've made absolutely valid I get

22:32

that but is it is it

22:35

not across a lot of football

22:37

now that there are you know

22:39

disgusting chance from a lot of

22:42

football fans whether it's towards players

22:44

or what I really think that.

22:47

football is about banter but forest

22:49

in particular I've got there's a

22:51

nastiness about them which never used

22:54

to be there I've been to

22:56

forests for you know for years

22:59

and year I've got loads of

23:01

friends in Nottingham and go to

23:03

forest frequently but right now there's

23:06

a toxic atmosphere at Nottingham and

23:08

it's it's not good I'm surprised

23:11

you associate yourself with it Chris

23:13

Well listen, let's just be clear

23:15

Michael, don't sit there and point

23:18

fingers at me and saying I'm

23:20

associating myself with ugly chance and

23:23

disgusting chance because that's absolutely ridiculous.

23:25

Michael, let's get around to the

23:27

football Everton, you must be delighted

23:30

with the improvement under David. If

23:32

Moise had been in job 10

23:34

games earlier, we'd be pushing for

23:37

Europe without a doubt. But the

23:39

thing for Evidence Fans now is,

23:42

for the rest of the season,

23:44

the only thing we care about

23:46

is the Southampton game. It's the

23:49

last game of the season, it's

23:51

the last game of Gooderson, and

23:54

what we don't want is the...

23:56

Premier League messing about with the

23:58

date or with the time of

24:01

that game. It's 3 o'clock on

24:03

a Sunday, it's deliberately scheduled so

24:06

it doesn't collide with the end

24:08

of the season and all 11

24:10

fans now just want to know

24:13

with 100% certainty that that's going

24:15

to happen on that date at

24:18

that time and then we can

24:20

plan around it and we can

24:22

plan all our parties around it

24:25

and you know but but the

24:27

fear is... The Premier League is

24:30

going to mess with the time

24:32

and the date. Michael, thank you

24:34

so much for the call. 085,

24:37

909, 693 is a number to

24:39

call. More calls after the news

24:41

on Five Live with John

24:43

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24:45

Music Radio Podcasts. The UK's

24:48

biggest football debate. This is 606.

24:50

With Chris Sutton and Robbie Savage

24:52

on Five Live. Let's go straight

24:55

to Phil Wy, who's speaking with

24:57

the Brentford manager, Thomas Frank. Thanks

24:59

Robbie. Thomas, thanks for joining us

25:02

live on BBC Five Live. How

25:04

would you assess that performance from

25:06

Brentford today on the point? Good

25:09

performance against a very good team.

25:11

That definitely... I did everything they

25:13

could to win the game, of

25:16

course, very strong. We all saw

25:18

their performance tonight against Madrid. But

25:20

all that's taking into consideration, I

25:23

think, is a very good point.

25:25

What is keeping pressing me with

25:27

my players is the ambitions they

25:29

got and the drives they

25:31

have, so they're quite actually

25:33

a little bit disappointed when

25:35

they came in because we

25:38

played 11 against 10 the

25:40

last 10 minutes because unfortunately,

25:42

Eugene knew couldn't. couldn't play

25:44

the game or finish the

25:46

game. So I like that

25:48

mentality in many ways. I

25:50

think at all probably was

25:52

a fair one. We really

25:54

limit Arsenal. I think

25:57

the defensive performance was

25:59

top. They basically had a

26:01

big moment matineely where Krista fire blocked

26:03

it. The situation with Sakha where Mark

26:05

flaking probably underestimated a tiny bit in

26:07

that situation. And that was it, then

26:09

some dangerous set pieces which you know.

26:12

So I'm very happy with the defensive

26:14

performance, very happy with the mentality coming

26:16

back here, equalizing. I think the only

26:18

little... thing to improve is I thought

26:20

we could have been even better on

26:23

the ball and maybe created more but

26:25

they are just so good. Let me

26:27

ask you about the Arsenal goal because

26:29

it came from a Brentford corner. Does

26:31

that annoy you? Are you in all

26:33

of how they broke? How would you

26:36

reflect on that? No, no, of course,

26:38

always credit to the opponent because they

26:40

broke and they sprinted forward and there

26:42

was a great, well-taking goal from party.

26:44

But, no, I was very, oh, I

26:47

am very, I think it just took

26:49

a notch down because we got a

26:51

point. It's on our set pieces, we

26:53

know how dangerous we are on all

26:55

our set pieces. And then we allow

26:58

them to break the other way, which

27:00

we knew they could and we know

27:02

the bid very well that we will

27:04

take it quick, so we just handle

27:06

that badly. But you also had hung

27:08

in there today and the goal was

27:11

worth worth it and well worth coming

27:13

with all, wasn't it? Yeah, definitely I

27:15

think it was an excellent second phase

27:17

from a corner. Two teams that definitely

27:19

challenged each other on set pieces. So

27:22

no, that was a great goal from

27:24

Greece. Last one for me. How do

27:26

you see the challenge for Arsenal on

27:28

Wednesday? Can I ask you about that?

27:30

Oh, probably else. I can answer it

27:32

better than me, but I think I

27:35

played an excellent game Tuesday. I, of

27:37

course, have three jobs, so I've probably

27:39

got a better heart to go through.

27:41

And, you know, when you live in

27:43

England, then we need to support the

27:46

English team, so I hope they go

27:48

through against the Madrid. Thanks be time.

27:50

Thanks so much, Phil. I tell you

27:52

what Chris, big statement from ABB, doesn't

27:54

think Rory will win them masters. What

27:57

a start, he's had ABB. Who said

27:59

that? You said, um, Laoria wouldn't it?

28:01

No, I said, a tip showing Lao at the start of the

28:03

week, I didn't say boring. Well, I'll just say it. I

28:05

mean, if you think Laoria wouldn't, that means back where I

28:07

want. Listen, it's Master's Golf and

28:09

Football with you guys on 606

28:12

tonight and I'll tell you why,

28:14

because McElroy is absolutely blitzing the

28:16

front nine here. So last time

28:18

I was with you, he chipped

28:20

in for Eagle at the second

28:22

to get to Nine Under. He

28:25

then nearly drove the green on

28:27

the short par four-third, and chipped

28:29

it up to Six Foot, and

28:31

he's not that in to get

28:33

to Ten Under. De Shambo at

28:36

nine under. Rose at eight under,

28:38

ah Shane Lowry Robbie, my man, he's dropped

28:40

a shot on the fourth, he's back to

28:42

six under. So don't you think Lowry will

28:44

win it? Could still win it,

28:46

long way to go. You know,

28:48

the Masters doesn't start, Robbie, here

28:50

comes your cliche, claxen, Masters doesn't

28:52

start until the back nine on

28:54

Sunday. Ohhhh, baby, Bruce, love it,

28:56

please. Love it Bruce. He's good

28:58

Bruce here too. Oh, he's got

29:01

some great lines. Yeah, but he

29:03

doesn't say, listen, obviously if he

29:05

thinks Lowry will win it, that

29:07

means McElroy won, so have I

29:09

got that wrong? Yeah, but he's,

29:11

now he's entitled to his opinion,

29:13

I think, you know, it's a

29:15

very open competition, I think

29:18

the chambeau will win it,

29:20

Bruce thinks Lowry, but Rory's

29:22

going with his mind coach,

29:24

yeah. Absolutely, we want to

29:26

hear from our old club Birmingham

29:28

City fans, Rob, you're champions of

29:30

League One, should they have an

29:33

open top bus around the city

29:35

of Birmingham? Let's hear from you

29:37

and Rexham, Drew with Wigan. Rob,

29:39

third place, Wicham, they beat Stevenage

29:41

one, Neil, only a point behind

29:43

Rexham now. Can I want to

29:46

hear from Wiccom fans? Can you

29:48

catch Rexham, haul them in and

29:50

get that automatic spot? And in

29:52

League 2, Port Vale. will win

29:54

over Bromley a bad day for

29:56

Bradford City though dropped a second

29:59

after losing. Listen to this Rob,

30:01

a five, four thriller against Swindon

30:03

in the 95th minute. Were you

30:05

there Ian Holloway's doing a brilliant

30:07

job? Just want to go back

30:09

to that Thomas Frank interview, Rob

30:11

quickly. You know, we've talked this

30:13

season about the promoted size. Ipswich,

30:15

Leicester and Southampton really going down

30:17

in poor fashion, you know, haven't

30:20

really put up a fight. I'd

30:22

maybe say Ipswich have a little

30:24

bit. But Brentford, just to think

30:26

the job Thomas Frank has done

30:28

got you up to the Premier

30:30

League and you are a

30:32

stable Premier League club season

30:34

in and season out. Let's

30:36

hear from you just... pay

30:39

a bit of respect and

30:41

tributes to Thomas Frank for

30:43

the job that he's done

30:45

at Brentford. Absolutely brilliant. Magnificent.

30:48

Oh, 825, 909, 693. Redding

30:50

as well, Chris. Seven points

30:52

in a week. In six

30:54

place, three points ahead of

30:56

the late and early. With

30:59

Bolton and Huddersfield both getting

31:01

hammered today, Redding. four

31:03

games to go getting the

31:05

playoffs. I'll be there on

31:08

Friday. Imagine if Rexham dropped

31:10

into the playoffs and

31:12

there's a Redding Rexham,

31:14

yeah, who would you want to,

31:17

who would you want to

31:19

win? Redding, Redding, Redding, yeah,

31:21

Redding, yeah, Redding, yeah, Redding,

31:23

yeah, Redding, yeah, Redding, yeah,

31:25

Redding, yeah, Redding, yeah, Redding, yeah,

31:28

Redding, right then Krista. I'm the

31:30

tipster, so I hope Rory McRoe

31:32

wins it. If you remember at

31:34

the start of the season, none

31:37

of you took Liverpool to win

31:39

the league, none of your BBC

31:41

commentators, you know, you were saying

31:44

that man united with finishing by

31:46

Liverpool, Liverpool might finish not finishing

31:48

the top four, and if you're

31:50

really strong, they were juggling hungry

31:53

and clubs gone, well, it's humble

31:55

pie time because Liverpool are going

31:57

to win the league and we have

31:59

been Arsenal pretenders how they hit the

32:01

point that Liverpool were hitting under clop

32:04

against Man City and I just didn't

32:06

think they had it in them because

32:08

they just they went for a number

32:10

of strikers as opposed to one or

32:12

two really good. So I'm not here

32:15

to knock Arsenal. I hope they win

32:17

the the champions. He was a fantastic

32:19

performance against Wellwood. But this is a

32:21

little bit of a lull. It shows

32:23

how like you said how good Brentford

32:26

are. When I looked at Man 60,

32:28

I thought they are a bit of

32:30

an agent squad. They are going to

32:32

come under pressure because of the financial

32:34

penalties that they've been holding off. Carl

32:37

Walker's gone. It was the aging defense.

32:39

One individual robbery, they seem to have

32:41

imploded because they rely on goals from

32:43

Harland. But even if they maintain their

32:45

standards, look at the politics, Liverpool of

32:47

math, they'd still be up there challenging

32:50

the league. Liverpool, they're going to walk

32:52

it. And there's a unity about Liverpool

32:54

football club. Despite. If you look at

32:56

the defenders, we haven't had to rely

32:58

on Trent Alexander Arnold, playing Libra and

33:01

coming out and right back, badly uncovered.

33:03

He's got a tune-out for Cunate and

33:05

got a partnership with Van Dyke. Simicas

33:07

plays sometimes, Roberson. Keller has filled in.

33:09

The strikers all admire Stella and Gapco

33:12

has done a great job. We talk

33:14

about Nunez not being clinical enough, but

33:16

he still comes on, does a job,

33:18

gets your goal, supplies goes, he's his

33:20

nurse Diaz, soberzidee. He's been careful with

33:23

him, he'll feel done, get a hamster,

33:25

we've seen how good McAllister is, and

33:27

the job that Arnie's slot has done

33:29

with Gravenberts, your Gravenberts has seamlessly fit

33:31

in, as I think if Fala hadn't

33:34

scored the amount of goals, Fala's going

33:36

to be a permission player of the

33:38

season, if you haven't scored the amount

33:40

of goals, Gravenber's will get it, because

33:42

I didn't see that, I just did

33:45

not, you look at gap co, I

33:47

apologize, I apologize, I apologies. Captain Phil's

33:49

into the middle sometimes and you've got

33:51

to know the Dutch lab's got a

33:53

spine there. But um, Rodry, Rodry is

33:56

missing from man sitting, it's all fun

33:58

to pieces and we will at the

34:00

end of the season and the way

34:02

Grabenberg just sat in there

34:04

and played every game. I

34:06

didn't see that. I didn't envisage

34:09

that. I'm surprised because you

34:11

are, I mean you're the

34:13

self-proclaimed tipster you described yourself.

34:15

Yeah. So did you, Ami, Ami,

34:17

did you have Liverpool? Well Ami,

34:19

Ami, Ami, you must take contrast

34:21

in the predictions then before the end

34:23

of the season, surely. I rang you at

34:26

the start of the season and... You think?

34:28

I think we all say we think we'll

34:30

win it. No, I said to you, I don't understand

34:32

how you discounting Liverpool. I was saying to

34:35

the... I can't understand... And did you say,

34:37

I mean, Liverpool will win the league? Obviously,

34:39

they think... Well, I'm going to say that

34:41

as a Liverpool fan, but I said to

34:44

you, they'll go close against that. Have you

34:46

got this on record? I can't... I'm not

34:48

discounting what you're saying, but you're saying you

34:51

called it up and said at the start

34:53

of the season, Liverpool, Liverpool, we'll win the

34:55

Premier League. Three or four games in, I

34:57

said, you live full of winning the Premier League

34:59

and you kept going about Chelsea because you like

35:02

going on about Chelsea. I said, yeah, they'll do

35:04

all right, but they won't, Kelsey get up

35:06

for the big games. I don't know

35:08

if they are going to win against

35:10

the small teams. Did you go for

35:12

Chelsea Crestes yet? Do you know I'm

35:14

going to do, I'm going to get

35:17

our production team onto this and see

35:19

whether our production team can dig out

35:21

your calls because I'm not discounting anything

35:23

the self-proclaimed tips. Would you be prepared

35:25

to go against Ami one day in

35:27

the predictions? Well yeah I think, yeah

35:29

absolutely. He's the king? Well I mean I've

35:32

won the last two seasons, I've won

35:34

the last two seasons, I've won the

35:36

last two seasons, I've won the last

35:38

two seasons, I think we're leveled this

35:40

season myself and the guess. Well, just,

35:43

I think I'm playing a

35:45

rapper this. Oh, right, right.

35:47

Okay, guys, with respect, who

35:49

did you tip for your

35:51

top three then, Chris, and

35:53

who did you tip for

35:55

your top three then, Robbie?

35:57

Mine was Man City, Arsenal,

35:59

and... I went Chelsea I think you

36:01

did. I think you did. I did.

36:03

I went Liverpool fifth. Yeah, I was

36:06

wrong. I was miles. I didn't think

36:08

Liverpool to win it. It doesn't do

36:10

the predictions, Amy. I think I think

36:12

I think I think I said Manchester

36:14

City Arsenal not digging for a third,

36:16

I think. No, you didn't say that.

36:19

You didn't like that. Well, I see

36:21

if we're safe production can can dig

36:23

out what I said. I think you

36:25

did. I think you did. the start

36:27

of my season. That's some going on

36:29

me though that if you heard and

36:32

fair play to you but did you

36:34

did you predict Liverpool to win it

36:36

because you're a Liverpool fan and that's

36:38

where your heart is or was it

36:40

your head? Be truthful. Well it was

36:42

the heart's always going to say that

36:45

because I'm biased but my head said

36:47

to me I just don't think Arsenal

36:49

are going to mask the points I

36:51

remember saying to you there's a bit

36:53

of scramble at the end and I

36:56

said you're going over to go over

36:58

to Arsenal go over to Arsenal. treated

37:00

really badly and told that you go

37:02

and I was well you know you

37:04

were saying what the manager's got his

37:06

own idea of coming in. Pochitino was

37:09

kind of pushed out the door a

37:11

little bit. I mean okay that's fair

37:13

enough that's gone but I think I

37:15

think Arsenal will pick up Sterling now

37:17

just and until they shouldn't they should

37:19

have got Tony in now I thought

37:22

I can see that happening because they

37:24

need that's a recognition that they need

37:26

another person up front. But it kind

37:28

of shows that they were trying to

37:30

do it on the cheap a little

37:32

bit. And I looked and you know,

37:35

Mount City got their set squad and

37:37

I thought, well, you know, Liverpool just

37:39

have to, I said to you, Liverpool

37:41

just have to avoid injuries. I mean,

37:43

great show, just quickly, Amy, then, because

37:46

you, because you, you know, you are

37:48

the self-proclaimed tipster, who's going to win

37:50

the Masters? Rory mackerel, who's going to

37:52

win the ashes? Who's going to win

37:54

the ashes? Who's got the pinning in

37:56

Australia? You've got a 50-50 chance. Yeah,

37:59

well England, Australia. England

38:01

Australia at, I'm going to

38:03

go Australia. That's brave. I

38:05

got, listen, Amy, thank you, so

38:08

much. Lucky, lucky there with Australia,

38:10

didn't he? Chris, today, right, we

38:12

got a city fan, Luke, coming

38:15

up. Today, my team won again,

38:17

under a point for the season,

38:20

you know, Jed, friend of the show,

38:22

you know, been on for a while?

38:24

Yeah, not been on for a while.

38:26

He said today, and these were his

38:28

words, and I've, It would be a

38:30

miracle, a miracle for a city to

38:32

qualify in the top four, it would be

38:34

a miracle for them to do it. it was so

38:37

last first first first of all

38:39

that's a miracle first of all

38:41

why is why is that fud

38:43

on the bench on your bench

38:45

and and and secondly a miracle

38:47

yeah get it's off yeah that's

38:49

day with his words hang on

38:51

hang on this is a miracle

38:54

jed so we're a Manchester city

38:56

now in fourth yeah luke one

38:58

thing about that is it a

39:00

miracle sitting get in the top four

39:02

luke to be fair, I would

39:04

have said the same a few

39:06

days ago, but I think a

39:08

miracle. Not a miracle mate, but

39:10

we had 25 points after 10

39:12

games and we've got 50 odd

39:15

now, so we've had the mid-table

39:17

form for the last, you know,

39:19

the last sort of 20 odd games.

39:21

I wouldn't say it's a miracle

39:23

now, I'm pretty confident

39:25

we're getting the top four, top

39:28

five, but that's just what we've

39:30

got to do, isn't it? I have

39:32

a bit of their confidence man. Do you

39:34

know what I mean? We've won four Premier

39:36

League titles in a row. We've had a

39:38

bad season, but we'll get Champions League

39:40

football for next season. Forest today,

39:42

losing was a big one, Villa

39:45

obviously being Southampton, but I think

39:47

Forrest the catchable, I think they

39:49

probably need to watch the box a bit.

39:51

They're only two points out out of the city

39:53

and villas in the world have to play

39:55

against Villa. But I'm pretty confident now,

39:57

we're getting in the champions league.

40:00

season is a whole I mean

40:02

you know it's it's one season

40:04

you know Manchester City have been

40:06

so dominant the interesting thing is

40:08

I think everybody's looking to next

40:10

season and do you see this

40:12

Manchester City team challenging for a

40:14

title without a doubt we're challenging

40:16

the league next season I see

40:18

people crying about it and you

40:20

know making stuff up saying city

40:22

gonna fall our peps gonna go

40:24

all this absolute waffle will be

40:26

absolutely fine I'll be absolutely fine

40:28

I think we're definitely gonna win

40:30

the league So there's still beweds

40:32

coming out with. I think we'll

40:34

challenge the title. I'm not saying

40:36

we'll definitely win it, but we'll

40:38

be up there, there, about, and

40:40

yeah, once we get, Roger's a

40:42

big statement, that man said he'll

40:44

be up there, or there, a

40:46

hundred percent. I'm going to be

40:48

on this on, four league, I

40:50

don't know if they're going to

40:52

be up there, I think we'll

40:54

probably win it next season, or

40:56

as I said, at least be

40:58

within five points. A minute ago

41:00

you thought you're going to be

41:02

up there now you think you're

41:04

going to win it? Are you

41:06

going to win the Champions League

41:09

as well next season? Well it's

41:11

a cup competition. Back as a

41:13

league, it leagues about consistency, you

41:15

can't call the Champions League, you

41:17

want to say your team's going

41:19

to win it. Unlike our last

41:21

guy as well, he said he's

41:23

a Liverpool fan, he wants us

41:25

not to win the Champions League.

41:27

I do. Just quickly Kevin DeBroy,

41:29

where would he rank in terms

41:31

of Manchester Manchester City? Premier League

41:33

era, where would he rank in

41:35

terms of the best city players?

41:37

He ranks number one. He ranks

41:39

number one. David Silver just behind

41:41

him, Aguero just beyond that. Kevin

41:43

DeBroy and his number one, mate.

41:45

Easy. Kevin DeBroyero schools. Kevin DeBroyner.

41:47

All right there. Thanks, Manchester City

41:49

fan luke. Kevin DeBarrow schools, Chris.

41:51

Scoles. Yeah. Scoles. Yeah. Kevin DeBarrow

41:53

schools, Chris. Yeah. Scoles. Robert, how

41:55

are you. Yeah, not bad are

41:57

you, Robbie? Kevin DeBriner or Patrick

41:59

Vieira. every time I go. Go on then

42:01

Robert, Arsenal. Arsenal.

42:04

Fantastic performance

42:06

against Real Madrid, midweek.

42:08

I think Arteca had his

42:10

hand forced. Gabrielle being

42:12

out, you know, he's been relying

42:14

on the opponent's defence this

42:16

season and half of last season

42:19

and we was forced to be

42:21

on the attack and we we

42:23

attacked Real Madrid and I thought

42:25

what a great performance that was.

42:28

tactics right by our cutter.

42:30

It's just disappointing that

42:32

young adopted the same

42:34

tactics throughout the Premier

42:36

League season. You know, like

42:39

going to Arsenal Strengths

42:41

rather than like I think

42:43

I've discussed with Chris before

42:46

the Marino tactics parking everybody

42:48

behind the bus type of thing.

42:51

What do you guys think? Would you,

42:53

I'd play like that in the Bernabel

42:55

on Wednesday? we will get spank we've

42:57

got to be brave we've got to

43:00

be on the phone not sure you

43:02

will do you not think so if you

43:04

go if you go at rail Madrid there

43:06

I think you could get picked off and

43:09

especially if this go early okay so what

43:11

would your taxes be then I would

43:13

I would what would your tactics be

43:15

a hundred points this season in I'm

43:17

not going to tell Michael I've tested

43:19

what to do but you know as

43:21

it stands you know I've won a

43:23

league and he hasn't so I would

43:25

say I would say You know, be like

43:27

Arsenal, do you remember when you went to the

43:29

Etted and Drew nil, no, but every say you

43:31

should have gone for it, you should have gone

43:33

for it. Yeah, yeah, I would play like that.

43:35

You've seen it up. So again, if Michael wants

43:38

any advice, you know, 2.56 points per game, under

43:40

a point to my first season, Michael, you know,

43:42

play like you did when you went to Man

43:44

City and Drew nil, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but

43:46

do you not think that you should have applied

43:48

these, you should have applied these tactics,

43:50

you should have applied these tactics more

43:52

throughout a Premier League season this season

43:54

this season this year? Which tactics

43:57

the ones that Neil Miller Man the city are the

43:59

ones when they played real? Well, they've got two,

44:01

they've got two free kicks. See, they're

44:03

not really open rail Madrid. Right, right,

44:05

this is, this is, this is getting ridiculous.

44:07

They've not really open rail Madrid up there.

44:09

There's got two free kicks, two, the best

44:12

three kicks you'll ever see in the history

44:14

of football. Yeah, but you are doing Arsenal

44:16

a disservice, Rob. This was the mighty Real

44:18

Madrid coming, coming, coming to town. And to

44:20

beat, who, who would have viewed, we could

44:23

have viewed, we could see Arsenal winning the

44:25

game, we could see Arsenal winning the game,

44:27

right. Right. We could all see Arsenal

44:29

winning the game, but we thought that

44:32

it'd be maybe by the odd

44:34

goal. So to win three nil,

44:36

that's one of the greatest champions

44:39

league performances in all the time.

44:41

But they haven't really all put

44:43

them up time after time. They've got

44:46

two of the best three kicks

44:48

in the history of football. Can

44:50

you just give them credit? I

44:52

am. And then Marino's goal. I

44:55

mean, you know, was that a fluke as

44:57

well? Yeah, I would agree with that

44:59

but... So Robert, if you won

45:01

the Champions League, are you a better

45:03

team of Liverpool? I would say

45:05

we was on a par, if not better,

45:07

because a league season is over

45:10

38 games. It's harder to win.

45:12

Premier League is harder to win

45:14

the Champions League. Yeah, I would agree

45:16

with that but... In terms of

45:18

Arsenal progression, I would say

45:21

that would be a good result

45:23

for Arsenal as a football club.

45:26

Yeah, I mean if you win the

45:28

Champions League, but do you know

45:30

a long way to go Rob

45:32

there? You look at the PSG,

45:34

what a team, what an unbelievable

45:36

team, but are you a little

45:38

bit disappointed with the Premier League,

45:40

Robert, and the way you've sort

45:42

of waved the white flag in

45:45

the last couple of games and

45:47

you're just letting Liverpool win. Yeah,

45:49

yeah, yeah, no, I think we've

45:51

talked about this before Chris, aren't

45:53

we in terms of mental attitude

45:55

and looking for excuses rather than looking

45:57

for positives to go on the front

45:59

foot. and they get a little

46:01

bit today, isn't it? I think

46:04

we're trying to start playing party

46:06

at right back when you've got

46:08

like timber, BEM White, who are

46:10

your first choices, why are you

46:12

not putting that forward, why not

46:14

giving that... Well, who scored today?

46:16

Partied, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

46:18

Can I just ask you, Robert,

46:20

do you think if Arsenal don't

46:22

get over the line in the

46:24

Champions League, will there be a

46:27

lot of dissatisfied Arsenal fans? with

46:29

our tetter. If you finish the

46:31

season, trophyless. I think you've got

46:33

a look, like I said before,

46:35

it's five strokes, six years, eight

46:37

hundred million down the line. How

46:39

much longer has he got? How

46:41

much longer has our tester got

46:43

in terms of being given that

46:45

chance to win something, shall we

46:47

say? To progress. Don't get me

46:50

wrong. He's done a great job.

46:52

He's like cleared the dressing room

46:54

out of the bad names, bad

46:56

influences. But has he got that

46:58

ability to become that elite manager

47:00

to win those things that matter

47:02

most? I don't know. And I

47:04

think, is it the board not

47:06

backing him or is it just

47:08

him being stubborn that he's not

47:10

bought that drive? You've just said

47:13

800 million pounds later, you'd say

47:15

the board has backed him. Yeah,

47:17

yeah, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, great point.

47:19

And, you know... Good point Chris.

47:21

How long do you think he's

47:23

got less than Chris? You know,

47:25

what do you think? I think

47:27

we've got to go to the

47:29

news. I said, you know, it's

47:31

a great question Robert, let's put

47:33

out there. Let's put out there.

47:36

Let's put out there. Let's put

47:38

out there. So as it stands

47:40

Chris, what a win it was

47:42

against Ray and Madrid. Yeah, three

47:44

nil. That's not, that's not going

47:46

to happen. Ooh. Arsenal fans. Oh

47:48

wait, oh wait five. That's just

47:50

not going to happen. 909. Six

47:52

and nothing. Can I tell you

47:54

for advice? Yeah. How to win

47:56

titles, would you speak to him?

47:59

You know, relentless, ruthless, play your

48:01

best team at all costs, you

48:03

know, what we've done, 100 points,

48:05

100 goals, the next goal we

48:07

score in the league, and we'll

48:09

be the best team ever at

48:11

this level. You'd fall foul of

48:13

FFP, I think. No, I don't

48:15

think we would, because the crowd

48:17

and the sponsorship would be getting

48:19

Chris, would be absolutely fine. Absolutely

48:22

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49:25

to call Macaroni. Just quickly about

49:27

your paddle tennis with Michael Brown

49:30

last week. How did that go?

49:32

Tell you what mate, what a

49:34

game it was. How did you

49:36

get on? We won six, one,

49:38

six nil. 6 mil. See, well

49:40

I've heard different. Pardon? I've heard

49:42

differently. Really? You started as well

49:44

and you ended up getting thrashed.

49:46

Six one, six mil, six mil,

49:49

me and Rob Smetters against Michael

49:51

and Akkers. They were all over

49:53

the place. Six one, six, one,

49:55

six, one, six, one, six, one.

49:57

So they didn't beat you. No,

49:59

miles off it. Miles off it.

50:01

Seriously. Right. Let's go. We've got

50:03

Paul, a Rex and Fab Monty,

50:06

a Brentford fan. Let's go David,

50:08

a St. Frank, Christopher. Evening all?

50:10

David and David. I just wondered

50:12

if you're talking about the last

50:14

three states' results, Six Love, Six,

50:16

One, Six One. What's it like

50:18

being the worst ever Premier League

50:20

side at the minute? Well, to

50:23

be fair. It's brutal, but it's...

50:25

entirely predictable Robbie to be honest

50:27

from the end of last season

50:29

where we scraped up into the

50:31

Premier League there was a brilliant

50:33

thing to win promotion a terrible

50:35

thing then to be promoted and

50:37

with with no particular proper plan

50:40

no no management structure to think

50:42

what are the still things that

50:44

we need to put in place

50:46

to survive in the Premier League

50:48

where we would argue differently though

50:50

David wouldn't he because there was

50:52

a big overhaul of players he

50:54

brought a lot of players in

50:57

so there was a plan it

50:59

just it was a plan which

51:01

didn't work well is that fair?

51:03

Well it sounds to me like

51:05

somebody's been to IKEA or some

51:07

such place and got a flat

51:09

pack team to play in the

51:11

same style as Mount City or

51:14

someone else but without actually having

51:16

the composite parts so we never

51:18

had strikers who could score in

51:20

the Premier. We never had a

51:22

midfield which knew the dark arts,

51:24

knew how to win the ball

51:26

back. We never had a defense

51:28

which was fit for purpose. We've

51:31

had a goalkeeper who's done pretty

51:33

well to prefer. But actually that

51:35

goes then into the... coaching the

51:37

management it goes then back into

51:39

the recruitment and actually an understanding

51:41

of what it takes you need

51:43

two teams now we need to

51:45

have one team which is going

51:48

to get us out of the

51:50

championship which is a brutal league

51:52

and now and then we need

51:54

another team almost to step up

51:56

in order to stay and do

51:58

something in the Premier I don't

52:00

know if it's even possible now

52:02

to get out of the championship

52:05

to stay in the Premier but

52:07

you need you need somebody behind

52:09

the scenes who understands the different

52:11

stages and the incremental growth of

52:13

a team and we haven't had

52:15

it So you might have bought

52:17

loads of players, but none of

52:19

them really are fit for purpose.

52:22

Alcatraz is pretty good, but one

52:24

or two of the others, you

52:26

know, they just aren't fit for

52:28

purpose. And a load of them

52:30

are going to clear off. Actually,

52:32

the better ones are going to

52:34

be skimmed away during the summer,

52:36

and then we're going to be,

52:39

you know, just to start again.

52:41

So there is a danger actually

52:43

with the plummet that we could

52:45

end up in the bottom half

52:47

of the championship first. When you

52:49

look at Luton, Luton in a

52:51

relegation place now at the bottom

52:53

of the championship, do you see

52:56

Southampton, you're saying you've talked about

52:58

bottom half, but then you've seen

53:00

the way that Burnley had bounced

53:02

back this season. If you had

53:04

a hunch, would you hunch, you

53:06

know, you said you think you're

53:08

going to finish nearer the bottom?

53:10

than the top but is there

53:13

you know are there Southampton fans

53:15

out there's been a dismal season

53:17

who are more optimistic than you

53:19

and think that you can bounce

53:21

straight back and of course that

53:23

means getting a manager in place

53:25

what type of manager do you

53:27

want to see South Hampton go

53:29

for? Yeah and so I hadn't

53:32

absolutely no clue. Why we ended

53:34

up with you rich at all

53:36

not a clue where that thinking

53:38

came from no idea what was

53:40

going on in the background to

53:42

make that as an appointment So

53:44

Russell Martin got us out of

53:46

the Premier got us out of

53:49

the championship into the Premier, but

53:51

we need somebody who has sort

53:53

of clarity and understanding, as I

53:55

said, about the incremental nature of

53:57

moving through the divisions, the actual

53:59

kind of people with some experience

54:01

and some depth, some of the,

54:03

like I say, some of the

54:06

dark arts, some of the kind

54:08

of the worldly wisdom you need

54:10

to survive in British in English

54:12

football, the pace of it, the

54:14

sort of the depth of it,

54:16

the ongoing power of it. You

54:18

need to have somebody who understands

54:20

how that works. and there are

54:23

a few candidates that are out

54:25

and about and if we end

54:27

up with one of them great

54:29

but sports republic the owners don't seem

54:31

to have a clue they seem to think

54:33

that you can you pick a strategy pick

54:35

a person make the players play the way

54:37

you want them to play and that's going

54:39

to bring you success and it doesn't there

54:41

has to be a cohesion about it and

54:44

we haven't got it David thank you so

54:46

much thanks David for the call league warden

54:48

Christopher Birmingham Champions, they've got

54:50

the final tomorrow against Peterborough,

54:52

good luck to both sides.

54:54

You know, sports of Barry

54:56

Farrine and Mr. McCantony as

54:59

well about Peterborough, good side.

55:01

That's going to be a good final tomorrow.

55:03

Wickham, I think are now a point

55:06

behind Rexham. I've seen both teams play.

55:08

To be fair. Wickham and Rexham I

55:10

can't believe both are up there. They've

55:12

done amazingly well to be up there.

55:14

I think there's a better team over

55:16

the course of the season. You know,

55:18

they're there on Merritt, Rexham to go

55:20

up again. Name these other teams you

55:22

think are better then? I think Redding

55:24

are better in terms of the group.

55:26

I do, I do. I think Charlton

55:29

are better in different styles. Listen, I

55:31

watch all the teams in league won.

55:33

There's some very very very good

55:35

side, listen. You've got say Rexham,

55:37

Rexham. play their way and they

55:39

do it really really well and

55:42

effective. Wickham, big win for them

55:44

today. It's going to be so,

55:46

so tight. And I like Rexham,

55:48

I like him but they didn't

55:50

play well against Redden when I

55:53

went to see him. You know, a

55:55

young Rexham side. Sorry, a

55:57

young Red inside dominated

55:59

Rexham. Let's go to pod, but I

56:01

up Wrexham go about all those teams.

56:03

Yeah, I up Wrexham finished second, I

56:06

really do, because between the championship,

56:08

they'd have a chance in the

56:11

championship Chris, they would, you know, with the

56:13

owners, with you know, what they can bring

56:15

in, pod, how are you? When you say a

56:17

chance. Have a chance, I think they'd have

56:19

a chance, yeah, I really did. Getting to

56:21

the Premier League, if they go up. I

56:23

think. they'd be looking at playoffs. I

56:25

do Chris, honestly, they can bring in

56:27

the players, you know, look at the

56:30

size of the club now Chris, they're

56:32

flying. I think, pod, you can tell

56:34

me, was Rex and worth like five

56:36

million hours hundred, but I don't

56:38

know, I think I've seen something. The

56:40

middle I like that, even in lads.

56:42

Not the best performance today, to be

56:45

honest, we weren't really at it. And

56:47

they had the better chances, we didn't

56:49

really have a shot today, what shocked

56:51

me. Bitstad really when Paul Mullin was in

56:54

the crowd with us where the fans are rich and for

56:56

him to play or at least be on the bench I

56:58

don't really know what's happened there or anything but in a

57:00

game like that today he's a player who could come on

57:02

for the last 20 and just get you a winner he

57:04

could be having a shocker and he's just one of them

57:06

players who can just do something special at that level. I'm

57:08

just wondering if he's been lost out then. Yeah he's fit

57:10

and all that and all that I'm ready to go. I'm

57:12

ready to go. He's been ready to go. He's been ready

57:14

to go. He's been ready to go. He's been ready to

57:16

go. He's been ready to go. He's been

57:18

ready to go for ages. He's been ready

57:20

to go for ages. He's been ready to

57:22

go for ages. Everyone, I just can't get

57:24

me head around why you're not even on

57:26

the bench or anything. Well, you got Sam

57:28

Smith, you've had Sam Smith, yeah,

57:30

it's been, since it's been, Sam

57:33

Smith, since it's been, Sam Smith,

57:35

since it's been, Sam Smith, since

57:37

it's been on fire, really fair,

57:39

Rock Creek, they haven't been really

57:42

impressed that much of him, is

57:44

what I thought he would be like.

57:46

Has he got two winning goals here,

57:48

am I wrong? Yeah, definitely.

57:51

One was a rebound? Yeah,

57:53

it was actually, but going

57:55

back to the age game, we

57:58

weren't at it at all. Four

58:00

cup finals left for us next night. Plus

58:02

the game's ball. We've got Bristol Rovers on

58:04

pride. They're what I think will win. We've

58:07

got a trippice game. Bank holiday Monday away

58:09

to Blackpool where Blackpool are good at home.

58:11

I rate them at home. And then we've

58:13

got Charlton at home who are playing really

58:16

well and getting results. And then last game

58:18

is season. I don't really want to go

58:20

to Lincoln, but I think personally it's going

58:23

to go to that game. But saying that.

58:25

Wickham have got the harder games, but if

58:27

the teams around them can't finish any higher

58:29

in the playoffs, I think the last two

58:32

games are somewhere like their rest players, like

58:34

stop port and teams. You know what? When

58:36

I watch Rexham against Redding. I was so

58:38

disappointed with Wrexham, it was the first time

58:41

I've seen them, you know, live this season.

58:43

I'm going to be able, it's important, you

58:45

can tell me if I'm right or wrong.

58:48

I want Wrexham to go up, pod in

58:50

second place, I really, really do, it'd be

58:52

brilliant for the town, the community, I think

58:54

it would be absolutely fantastic. You'd prefer Redding

58:57

to go up in second, wouldn't it? Redding,

58:59

can get six, this and Redding might not

59:01

finish to play us, but right now, but

59:03

right now, I would not finish the place

59:06

to play us, but right now, I would

59:08

not finish the place, I wouldn't, I wouldn't,

59:10

I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't,

59:13

I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't,

59:15

I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't,

59:17

I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't,

59:19

I wouldn't Let's stay in the game for

59:22

60 minutes and if it's not going that

59:24

well let's bring on Fletcher let's get the

59:26

balls in the box and try to nick

59:28

a goal in the last half hour of

59:31

games. You're very critical of other advantages wrong.

59:33

No no I'm just saying but they've done

59:35

it listen but Phil Parkinson does it really

59:38

really well Chris and the second in the

59:40

league and he's done unbelievable you're just being

59:42

honest and listen if I had players like

59:44

that I'd play that way. But we're my

59:47

players with dynamic, we score goals, we entertain.

59:49

So Wrexham don't have dynamic players, is that

59:51

what you say? I wouldn't say no. I

59:53

wouldn't say they have, no. I think they've

59:56

got a way of playing. Well, they've done,

59:58

but they're doing pretty well. Yes, there's different

1:00:00

styles of playing. But the question I'll ask,

1:00:03

if Wrexham go up, can they play that

1:00:05

style in the championship? You don't watch league

1:00:07

one, no, because you're about the Premier League,

1:00:09

because you've won it, because you've won it.

1:00:12

to keep mentioning. But a few moments ago

1:00:14

you talked about Rexham challenging at the top

1:00:16

of the championship. It's ridiculous. Then you then

1:00:19

you criticize in the style of play. Update

1:00:21

for the Masters ABB. Help me out here.

1:00:23

Talking dynamic Rory McElroy's golf has certainly been

1:00:25

that he leads the Masters at the moment

1:00:28

by three shots He's played six holes of

1:00:30

this third round so far and he's done

1:00:32

something that no golfer has ever done in

1:00:34

the history of the Masters I think I

1:00:37

know what it is. Yeah, because you've seen

1:00:39

it give up on this great. Go on.

1:00:41

Is it started the first six holes with

1:00:44

threes? Yeah six threes three three three three

1:00:46

three which means... Birdie Eagle, Birdie Par, Birdie

1:00:48

Par. So the par that's just come on

1:00:50

the par three six actually was a tester.

1:00:53

He had to hold a 10 foot, that's

1:00:55

a huge sloping green. T-shot wasn't the best.

1:00:57

They left himself 10 foot with the par

1:00:59

putt, but he's made it. His putting has

1:01:02

been lights out so far today. Still a

1:01:04

long way to go. 12 holes to play,

1:01:06

but he leads. By three, oh. Where was

1:01:09

that? The seventh year, narrow par for... Got

1:01:11

in the trees! Okay, okay, so work to

1:01:13

do there, down the par four, seventh, but

1:01:15

he does lead by three, we've got Justin

1:01:18

Rose, he's on seven under, Bryson to Shambo,

1:01:20

one ahead of him, on eight under, Shane

1:01:22

Lowry's at seven under. Oh, God, ABV! Exactly,

1:01:24

exactly, and after you guys, it's us all

1:01:27

the way through tonight on Five Live commentary

1:01:29

from third round of the Masters, and we'll

1:01:31

be here tomorrow night of the night as

1:01:34

well. Thank you so much, Bruce, Bruce, Brenti,

1:01:36

Brenty, Brenty, Brenty, Brentford fan, Brentford fan. Good

1:01:38

evening, happy Saturday to you both. How are

1:01:40

you? Happy Saturday to you as well, Monty.

1:01:43

And a good Saturday for Brentford. Well I'm

1:01:45

supposed to be at the game, but I

1:01:47

lived down in near Hastings, St. Leonard, and

1:01:49

I have to drive to Paris tonight for

1:01:52

a meeting tomorrow. And I was up at

1:01:54

a really weird thing, not a wedding, but

1:01:56

it was a, it was an invitation to

1:01:59

a proposal. Adam Baker, a gunna. go there

1:02:01

and he's going to propose in front of

1:02:03

all of the 100 people which I think

1:02:05

is a bit weird. Well that that's ridiculous

1:02:08

what what about if he proposed he got

1:02:10

the like the big audience there all his

1:02:12

pals there and then it's a well I

1:02:15

went up there I went up there early

1:02:17

just because I've just pair of things is

1:02:19

the last minute thing so I went up

1:02:21

early to meet meet his girlfriend and everything

1:02:24

like that so he seems pretty confident in

1:02:26

on there. Did he say yes? Well

1:02:28

I'm going to find out, I'm

1:02:31

probably, yeah I'm going to find

1:02:33

out this evening, do you know

1:02:35

what I mean? I don't know.

1:02:37

I would have been at the

1:02:39

Arsenal. Well I just, I'm very

1:02:41

good at embarrassing Adam Baker and

1:02:43

I think I might have done

1:02:45

it again. But anyway I would

1:02:47

have been at the Arsenal game,

1:02:49

I'm a season ticket holder, I've

1:02:52

been a way to workington, all

1:02:54

the short talkie, I've seen us

1:02:56

losing finals against Paul Vale. Carlisle

1:02:58

in the freight road, I think,

1:03:00

Crew, Stoke, not Stoke. Yeah, anyway.

1:03:02

So I'm- Yeah, Brentford, Brentford, I'm,

1:03:04

Crew, that was Sean Smith's God,

1:03:06

won no win for Crew, am

1:03:08

I right? Absolutely, and Danny Murphy

1:03:11

was brilliant. I got left out,

1:03:13

I got left out, we played

1:03:15

Luton. I got left out of

1:03:17

the semi-final, the final, my contract

1:03:19

was up and I got off

1:03:21

the new contract and I declined

1:03:23

it and I didn't play, I

1:03:25

played every single game of the

1:03:27

46 game season, the five I

1:03:29

messed playing for the Wales and

1:03:32

the playoffs, Chris and the final,

1:03:34

I didn't get selected in the

1:03:36

squad. Did this call listen about

1:03:38

you? Oh, okay. Just saying, Greg,

1:03:40

I mean, I say Monti, Monti

1:03:42

was there. Monti was there. You

1:03:44

could have, I could have, Grace

1:03:46

Wembley, you could have watched me.

1:03:48

But if we were to, to

1:03:51

be on five live every week

1:03:53

and talk about all the times

1:03:55

you got left out, there wouldn't

1:03:57

be any time to call us

1:03:59

to make the points, Rob. Carry

1:04:01

on, Monti. Anyway, so, yeah, I

1:04:03

had nearly had the pleasure of

1:04:05

seeing. play them but I missed

1:04:07

out. That's a sad thing. Yeah

1:04:09

Breverton's own, so all of this

1:04:12

stuff is a miracle. I think

1:04:14

there were lots of triggered memories

1:04:16

because of the first game after

1:04:18

COVID in the new stadium and

1:04:20

I think I was with 17,000

1:04:22

people that thought they would never

1:04:24

see the day and when Tony

1:04:26

scored the second goal I'm sure

1:04:28

that crowns was going to lift

1:04:31

off into the space. It was

1:04:33

amazing the angst that was expended.

1:04:35

So it's been amazing we probably

1:04:37

should have qualified for Europe in

1:04:39

the second season. You know last

1:04:41

season was a bit of one

1:04:43

of those transitional seasons and I

1:04:45

think we've had Hickey's been out

1:04:47

all season, RICO's been out all

1:04:49

season, Nunez came on today as

1:04:52

like an 18 year old genius

1:04:54

Brazilian first game he's been injured

1:04:56

and Tiago who we bought from

1:04:58

Belgium has played like one game

1:05:00

or something like that. So next

1:05:02

season could be interesting but I

1:05:04

do worry about Frank. You know

1:05:06

what I mean? I'm surprised no

1:05:08

one's giving him a chance so

1:05:11

far. Okay, yeah. Alleged, big club.

1:05:13

Monty, yeah, thank you, it's good

1:05:15

luck in Paris Monty. Yeah, good

1:05:17

look and good look tonight Montyau,

1:05:19

Adam, Adam's partner says yes. Right

1:05:21

then, how did you propose to

1:05:23

your lovely wife? Well I said,

1:05:25

will you marry me, that's how

1:05:27

you know where? Where? Where? Where?

1:05:29

Where? Where? That's a really good

1:05:32

point, huh? Kaley, how are you?

1:05:34

Hello, I'm good thanks. How are

1:05:36

you? Chris can't remember where he

1:05:38

proposed to his wife. Oh, that's

1:05:40

a bit embarrassing. Yeah, it says,

1:05:42

yeah, it says, yeah, it says,

1:05:44

come on, then Kaley, Villafan, how

1:05:46

are you? Well, I'm good, thanks,

1:05:48

how are you? Good, good, good,

1:05:50

good, good. I'm literally just stepping

1:05:53

off the train. I've just gone

1:05:55

back from Stonleville to Riley Regis

1:05:57

because I've got off the coaching

1:05:59

team from the game Southampton. Right.

1:06:01

Okay, nice journey, nice scenery. It's

1:06:03

not, he was actually quite nice,

1:06:05

right at the front of the

1:06:07

coach as well. Oh, that's nice,

1:06:09

very nice. So, so what's your,

1:06:12

what's your, what's your point, who'd

1:06:14

be talking about here? Who are

1:06:16

we talking about? Villa, Chris. Sorry,

1:06:18

Kaley. He's thinking, he's still trying

1:06:20

to think where he's proposed to

1:06:22

his wife. So it was a

1:06:24

great game to be honest, this

1:06:26

is a bit slow to start,

1:06:28

we've probably got there in the

1:06:30

end and got the three points

1:06:33

needed. Clearly what a season, taking

1:06:35

the lead against Paris Saint-Germain, won

1:06:37

the lot but their three goals,

1:06:39

can you do it in the

1:06:41

week? I think if we score

1:06:43

first, I think now they'll start

1:06:45

to panic a little bit personally,

1:06:47

but it's a big ask and

1:06:49

we're not should be good for

1:06:52

what they've got to lose. All

1:06:54

the same, you know, has been

1:06:56

a phenomenal season. Rob is right

1:06:58

in that respect and still so

1:07:00

much to play for the job

1:07:02

Unai Marie has done and the

1:07:04

signings in January. What about Sensio?

1:07:06

Tell us about his penalty misses.

1:07:08

I'm going to watch him to

1:07:10

our match of the day, but

1:07:13

well, well, how did it? Well,

1:07:15

I know he missed them, but

1:07:17

tell us about the, you know,

1:07:19

the way he took them. So

1:07:21

it kind of counted out, but

1:07:23

he's already done so much for

1:07:25

the team. So I don't really

1:07:27

want to give him too much

1:07:29

stick for it, do we? Yeah,

1:07:32

he's been absolutely brilliant. Where would

1:07:34

this season rank, Kaley, for you

1:07:36

in terms of supporting Villa and

1:07:38

your enjoyment? Yeah, I love every

1:07:40

second of it, well, and then

1:07:42

we've had injuries, we've had, we've

1:07:44

had draws at home, which we

1:07:46

should have really walked away, we've

1:07:48

had a few more points for.

1:07:50

It's one of those things being

1:07:53

a fan of those things that

1:07:55

means you've always, you'd support someone

1:07:57

like Man City, will you? Will

1:07:59

you be sporting Birmingham tomorrow in

1:08:01

the final? Absolutely not. Thank you

1:08:03

so much for the call. Kaylee,

1:08:05

right, let's go to Peters in

1:08:07

Darby and Everton Fan Pete. Good

1:08:09

evening gentlemen. I'm closing your

1:08:12

show with a heartwarming story

1:08:14

of why we are the

1:08:16

People's Club. So I was

1:08:19

walking my Hungarian visitor

1:08:21

Marley this morning in my

1:08:23

Everton shirt and I walked past

1:08:25

this pub. I walked past this

1:08:28

pub. and there's a lot of

1:08:30

the scouses sat outside so they

1:08:32

call me over I get chained

1:08:35

to them and I said yeah you

1:08:37

know to season to get older for

1:08:39

20 years I don't get to go

1:08:41

to many a ways and you know

1:08:43

forests it's 10 miles down the road

1:08:46

and I said you know there's

1:08:48

the point system and all that

1:08:50

and this fellow just goes I'll

1:08:52

all that yeah this is for you

1:08:54

and it gave me a ticket and I

1:08:56

have had the most

1:08:59

amazing afternoon with a bunch

1:09:01

of brilliant blokes. The right

1:09:03

result, you know, we

1:09:06

played really well dominated the

1:09:08

game. You know, I actually

1:09:10

want for us to do

1:09:12

well, but if they play

1:09:15

like they played against

1:09:17

us today and, you

1:09:19

know, they buy some

1:09:21

miracle getting the champions

1:09:23

league, they'll get destroyed.

1:09:25

But no, avatar was

1:09:28

superb, the support was

1:09:30

just unbelievable. It was unbelievable.

1:09:32

And at the end, Decoré, the

1:09:34

whole Everton team came over to

1:09:36

us at the end. Decoré is

1:09:38

running and jumping in the air

1:09:40

and it's just a really good

1:09:42

vibe around the team and the

1:09:45

bond between the team and the

1:09:47

supporters. And for me to be

1:09:49

walking my dog, thinking... Yeah, watch

1:09:51

it on much of the day

1:09:53

tonight. I'll listen to it on

1:09:55

fire live in the afternoon and

1:09:57

watch it and then next minute

1:10:00

Yeah lads, easy to see. You

1:10:02

just gave, just, just gave

1:10:04

it to you, that's, that's

1:10:07

amazing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1:10:09

yeah. Uh, you didn't, you didn't

1:10:11

give me a dog as

1:10:13

a swap or anything, did

1:10:15

you? Oh, tell you what

1:10:17

mate, I'd never give this

1:10:19

little beauty up. So when

1:10:21

I spoke to you, but

1:10:23

he was barking his head

1:10:25

off, but he's, uh, he just

1:10:28

quiet. We've got seven.

1:10:30

Seven, Chris has got

1:10:32

pink. Have you got a

1:10:34

visler? No, no, no, I

1:10:37

haven't got a visler. Yeah,

1:10:39

but there are... I can't,

1:10:41

what does a visler

1:10:43

look like? Well, think

1:10:45

of an Australian, sorry,

1:10:47

an African ridge back. Oh

1:10:49

yeah. More slender. So when I

1:10:52

bought it two years ago,

1:10:54

eight weeks old, I was 18

1:10:56

stone. I'm now 14 stone.

1:10:58

Well done you. Wow. Wow. So he's, yeah

1:11:00

he needs to, unfortunately he needs like

1:11:03

two to three hours a

1:11:05

day. So we do it. I love, I love,

1:11:07

I love, I listen, we love dogs. I've

1:11:09

got a French ball dog, Pete. Yeah,

1:11:11

he is, obviously he's seen French ball

1:11:13

dogs with ears up. She's got a

1:11:16

hema tourman in one ear and one

1:11:18

ear. completely flopped over. So she's got

1:11:20

one ear up and one ear down

1:11:22

now and it's oh wow. You'd never

1:11:25

be without them though, would you? No,

1:11:27

I love them to listen. I love

1:11:29

them to get a look back to

1:11:31

football ads. I'd never be without the

1:11:33

blues. I mean what, fancy, what are the

1:11:36

chances? What are the chances? Because I live

1:11:38

in a tiny little village called Charlotte Lo.

1:11:40

and it's like at the end of the

1:11:42

850 before we get to the end of

1:11:45

the end of the end. Listen, listen Pete,

1:11:47

thank you for your story. Call us again

1:11:49

and thanks for listening, thanks for all your

1:11:51

calls tonight. Chris and I will be back

1:11:54

with 6.06 tomorrow at 6.30 p.m. taking all

1:11:56

your calls after the commentary of Newcastle versus

1:11:58

Manchester. What's the prediction Christopher? Uh, two-nill

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1:12:05

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