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Happy New Year! Year! It's time

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for you to have your

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say about your Chris and

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I are here with 60-6 taking

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your calls 9 p.m. As the gunners travelled

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across across London with their on

0:41

set on second place. in. Gabriel

0:43

Jesus in the in the

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six Jazzos. Then it's turned in its

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it's 2 -1. Arsenal. the

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the box, box, Mikhail

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got there. there. Bartinelli. Right-foot

0:54

shot. Flashes into the Brentford

0:57

net. must win that for Brentford won. Arsenal

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3. Arsenal 6 points beyond Liverpool. points

1:01

behind Liverpool will Liverpool have

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a hand. And Arsenal Liverpool's biggest

1:05

biggest challenges. I I think Rob, I

1:07

think Arsenal the challengers when

1:09

you think think no soccer today, no halverts,

1:12

on the a a bug

1:14

in the I thought Arsenal won there

1:16

and won well that well today

1:18

from hear from Arsenal fans

1:20

are you excited about

1:22

your title challenge As some Peppford fans,

1:24

the number to call is 9, 6,

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9, 3 on Monday, Christopher

1:29

Manchester United and another defeat at

1:31

Old Trafford. Showa Linton,

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into the net! It's 2-nill!

1:35

And we haven't even played

1:37

20 minutes. Gordon this time

1:40

went outside and back inside.

1:42

Showa Linton arrived, guided the

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header away from O'nada. Ninat,

1:46

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So, Christopher, Newcastle, great festive form, continue,

2:10

but Manchish and I did, and the

2:12

end of year, in 14th place, seven

2:14

points above the bottom three. The big

2:16

question is, Christopher, are they in a

2:19

relegation battle? Well, Ruben Amorim, did he

2:21

not say they're in a relegation battle

2:23

the other day? I tell you what,

2:25

Rob, it was so one-sided against Newcastle.

2:28

A Newcastle are absolutely flying. What can

2:30

you achieve this season? A Newcastle United

2:32

fans. But Manchester United fans watching that

2:34

game the other day. They must be

2:37

seriously worried. They do look like they're

2:39

going backwards under Rum and Amorim. But

2:41

whose fault is it? Let's hear from

2:43

Manchester United. And the tomb fans, oh,

2:46

eight, oh, eight, five, nine, oh, nine,

2:48

six, nine, three. Who else do you

2:50

need from tonight Christopher? On the 1st

2:52

of January. I want to hear from

2:55

Ipswich. Taren fans, the tractor, boys, first

2:57

home win. And what a win. Congratulations

2:59

to my daughter's teacher. Mr. Fields, absolutely

3:01

made up for him and Ipswich. I

3:04

mean, it must give them belief that

3:06

they can stand the Premier League, Rob.

3:08

want to hear from EFL fans as

3:10

well in the championship leads thought they

3:12

were going five points clear at the

3:15

top only for Blackburn to nick a

3:17

point in the last minute than he's

3:19

ugly is it is it Rovers against

3:21

Burley at the weekend oh yes the

3:24

big one at the weekend isn't it

3:26

and Burley who are in second could

3:28

only draw nil nil nil with Stoke

3:30

I think we've got updates from Shef

3:33

Sunderland and Sheffield United haven't we? Shefill

3:35

Wednesday fans huge four to win against

3:37

Darby 32,000 at Hillsborough saw you move

3:39

three points off to the playoffs but

3:42

what a goal Rob from Josh Winders

3:44

I mean from his own half incredible

3:46

awareness and technique were you there call

3:48

us let us know about that goal

3:51

Brilliant Norwich City, the

3:53

City, the Canaries be pressure

3:55

on Rob Edwards be

3:57

pressure on Rob Edwards now. Mark

3:59

think. in it, Stoke. Good appointment, I

4:02

think, fantastic. And in League One,

4:04

scored a last -minute

4:06

penalty to go top

4:08

of League One. I

4:11

think Birmingham could

4:13

only get a draw

4:15

at Stockport. Moneybags,

4:17

Wrexham, they lost to

4:20

them. They lost to Barnsley and Redding.

4:22

straight win a third

4:24

assist from a young

4:26

from a young Charlie Savage. Yes, yeah.

4:29

And in League Two, Walsall, there are

4:31

12 points clear at the top, Rob. points

4:33

clear at the top, Rob.

4:35

That's Walsall Let's hear from Walsall

4:37

fans. window window is open.

4:39

Who does your club need

4:41

to bring in the most

4:43

in January? Alexander Arnold. Has he Has

4:45

he had his head turned,

4:47

Rob? By By Madrid? Could he

4:49

be off Liverpool fans? That

4:51

would be ridiculous, wouldn't it?

4:54

And it? And seeing as Day, Rob, day,

4:56

what should your club's New

4:58

Year's resolution be? your club's New Year's

5:00

resolution? Well, went on

5:02

it's nearly on. It's nearly

5:04

you support wherever you

5:06

watch your wherever you watch your

5:09

phone calls on away, 25, 9.096, 9.3.

5:11

And Christopher, before we go to the

5:13

callers, we go to

5:15

the callers United. So,

5:17

United think I don't a

5:19

in a relegation battle, but... When

5:21

I seen that team, that team, I think it

5:24

was Gary Gary Neville said for pound team for pound

5:26

team in to agree with I I think to

5:28

I seen that team, think looking at

5:30

the you're of the pitch. of the pitch. Ambrans

5:32

picked that team. He knows the players,

5:34

he knows what system, he knows what what

5:36

team he's going to put out to try

5:38

and win a game of football. win

5:40

a game you look at how dynamic you

5:42

look at how the energy Newcastle are they get

5:45

round the pitch the you look at

5:47

that Manchester United team, the pitch, predicted

5:49

Newcastle to win the game. team, you know,

5:51

even more when I seen the in

5:53

the team the question I'll ask

5:55

you Chris and Manchester United

5:57

United fans is obviously in the ocean the hierarchy

5:59

of gone for Reubenammering. But if they know

6:01

his system is the three, four, three,

6:03

Manchester United, yeah, for me, have not

6:05

got the players to play a three,

6:07

four, three, they look, they look, they,

6:09

um, breadth of ideas, they look all

6:11

over the place, they look like, they

6:13

haven't got a clue at the minute,

6:15

and when the manager put that team

6:17

out and the players he's got at

6:19

his disposal, unless they spend a fortune,

6:21

which I'm not sure they're gonna, because,

6:23

you know, of, of, Players have to

6:25

go out probably before players come in.

6:27

What chances he got of improving it?

6:29

So who's to blame right now for

6:31

this form? The players obviously take accountability.

6:33

The manager for going to 3-4-3 and

6:35

it looks like he won't change. Or

6:37

is it the hierarchy for a point

6:39

in some day who's set on the

6:41

3-4-3? No, and they haven't got the

6:43

players for it. Well, as far as

6:45

I can see, Rob, it has to

6:47

be the hierarchy. It has to be

6:49

Enios. Why did they have point Amorim

6:51

and then sort of give him an

6:54

ultimatum to, you know, he need to

6:56

put him under pressure to take the

6:58

job? They knew the way that he

7:00

played. They were hoodwinked, really, weren't they,

7:02

by Eric Tenharg and the FA Cup,

7:04

when decided to stay with Tenhog, wanted

7:06

to make the change. But let's hear

7:08

what Manchester Manchester Manchester United States united

7:10

fans, I agree with you. Amurim has

7:12

to take a certain amount of responsibility,

7:14

that, you know, midfield duo, they just

7:16

do not have the legs. And where's

7:18

Marcus Rashford in all this as well?

7:20

He hasn't covered himself in the story.

7:22

Who would you keep Manchester United? He's

7:24

one for you, Chris, and I don't

7:26

know what you did as a manager.

7:28

And, you know, maybe it's a ruthless

7:30

side I need to get, but... I

7:32

would not take a player off, you

7:34

know, for me a youngster in the

7:36

first half of a game because it's

7:38

an admission from yourself that you've got

7:40

it wrong. You've got it wrong. So

7:42

you're punishing the player for you getting

7:44

it wrong. Listen, they were all really,

7:46

really poor and the manager has to

7:48

make big decisions for the collective. I

7:50

get that, I understand that. But to

7:52

take off a youngster, you know, coming

7:54

to a new league... after 33

7:56

minutes I felt for

7:58

him and I

8:00

thought for me that

8:02

was really poor you could

8:04

waited waited till half time but again

8:06

the collective comforts I don't know how you

8:08

did does manage said to my players,

8:10

Chris, Chris as bad as we're doing,

8:12

I I wouldn't take off a was

8:14

injury it was injury reasons tactical reasons,

8:16

because it's an admission from me

8:18

and my staff got it we've got

8:20

it wrong and I'm punishing the

8:22

player for that. yeah I can can

8:24

see both sides of that, but

8:26

I think I you know, know it's

8:28

what's in the best interest of

8:30

the team team and a Newcastle United. mean, it

8:32

was it was a wasn't it? Manchester

8:34

United in their own United in their

8:36

own backyard and was surprised was

8:39

surprised. Right let's go to

8:41

the the calls Arsenal Happy New Year,

8:43

happy New Year Mark. Happy New Year,

8:45

Year Mark. Happy New Year Mark. Happy New Year what

8:47

did you make in that, Year

8:49

must be delighted, Mark. When it got to

8:51

three got to the game game was,

8:54

the with the greatest respect, was

8:56

dull. You'd won it. it. You saw

8:58

it through comfortably and that was

9:00

that was a fixture. a tricky fixture. It

9:02

It was, The The second team to win

9:04

at Brentford this season, it's not an easy

9:06

place to go. easy place to go. I I'm

9:09

going to make one thing clear, clear. a

9:11

a two-horse tower We're not going to let

9:13

Liverpool to with win A lack

9:15

of the could cost us this season

9:17

but could just got to keep on winning

9:19

and winning. we just got to keep on will cost?

9:21

What would you do if you make

9:23

LR Teta? cost? What would you do if

9:25

you Michael Artetta? I'll do and

9:27

break the the bank and sign East Sack, going to

9:29

leave me a think now. going to

9:31

leave Newcastle right now. Main

9:33

January anyway. But you think it's

9:36

sort of hinted that the the

9:38

to going to be the

9:40

difference? but if I'm I'm an Arsenal

9:42

fan, fan, you know, I see Gabriel forming

9:44

in recent weeks, I'm pretty

9:46

chuffed with that. with that. Yeah,

9:48

he's playing well at the moment. He's the

9:50

moment. He's got to keep

9:52

on winning he's just he's to keep

9:54

on keep on scoring It's it's a team

9:57

collective effort. bartonalia well and obviously now there's

9:59

no second to March So Martinelli, Etrusad, Hardigard,

10:01

they've all got a chip in at

10:03

the end of the day. Do you

10:05

think, what's your gut feeling with Liverpool?

10:07

I mean, they've been, they've been so

10:10

good, they're so consistent. Do you think

10:12

they'll have a wobble mark? The wardrobe

10:14

pawns at some point, like, they've got

10:17

to nothing of forest, I believe, in

10:19

the next 10 days, and they've got,

10:21

they're gaminandies at everything. Okay, listen, thank

10:23

you so much for the call. Finn's

10:26

a Brentford fan. How are you Finn?

10:28

Happy New Year, mate. Hi, happy New

10:30

Year 2. I'm a good fan, how

10:32

are you? Good, thanks. Yeah, good, good.

10:35

What other wheels coming off a little

10:37

bit of Brentford, Finn? Where are you?

10:39

It's just a blip, isn't it? It's

10:42

been a good season? I think there's

10:44

a few problems. some horrific injuries not

10:46

even just this season but we've got

10:48

injuries from last season that's still carrying

10:51

on we've been missing our starting both

10:53

of our starting fallbacks so nearly 18

10:55

months now and it's we've been playing

10:57

centerbacks at right back and we've got

11:00

issues up front as well we still

11:02

our striker our only strikers injured as

11:04

well we're having to play whisser who

11:07

is naturally a sort of a wing

11:09

player in the middle and I think

11:11

that although it wasn't It was quite

11:13

a disappointing game in a lot of

11:16

ways. I think that a lot of

11:18

the sort of drives the score was

11:20

gone by the end of the second

11:22

half. But I think there are glimmers

11:25

of hope in it. I think Arsenal

11:27

as well, again, has to give credit

11:29

in the brilliant team. And you can't

11:31

expect to dominate the game and dominate

11:34

the ball like we have at home

11:36

in the past year games. Does it

11:38

sort of tell you how far you've

11:41

come though Finn that you're, I mean

11:43

if you lose a game of course

11:45

you're disappointed, but the fact that you

11:47

actually expect more because you've had a,

11:50

you know, your journey into the Premier

11:52

League and the way that you've stayed

11:54

up comfortably every season and now you're

11:56

at... stage great start to

11:59

the season home home

12:01

form excellent where you're actually

12:03

coming away from from from

12:06

from games like against Arsenal like thinking you're

12:08

thinking that was that was a bit

12:10

disappointing, but it does show how

12:12

far you've come, right? come right yeah

12:14

I I mean if mean, if you look

12:16

at the way Brentford with not financially

12:18

can't compete in in any way with

12:21

any other clubs with the owner I think

12:23

is is worth 300 million compared to

12:25

of the clubs the Saudi

12:27

Arabia with Newcastle Newcastle and and

12:29

place like Man like Man City

12:31

and Arsenal large backing financially. But I

12:33

financially. considering their history of think in second,

12:35

third sort of history of being in at some

12:37

third the fourth I think even at some it's the

12:40

fourth division. that we're at now just. we don't

12:42

have to worry about level that we're at

12:44

now it's we don't have to worry about table, rather

12:46

than more we're looking up at the table

12:48

rather than looking down we can look at places

12:50

of even forests, even can look at. and now we can get

12:52

into those sort of now we can get can sort

12:54

of up and we can compete. that that that

12:56

that that that that that table. and it's just

12:59

I think we've we've been quite unlucky in

13:01

some of the games. games. Yeah and Finn just

13:03

in terms of January in terms of January

13:05

of do you think because of

13:07

recent results, it's just you know a bit of a blip

13:09

do you bit of bring do you

13:11

think you need to bring players

13:13

in in January? Do you think

13:15

Thomas needs a bit of help? You've

13:17

talked about the extensive injury list.

13:20

injury list? Yeah, I I think you I

13:22

think should bring in some players. players. We

13:24

had, Tony We had, Tony went quite late

13:26

in the he didn't so he didn't have

13:28

the opportunity to spend the from that. from

13:30

that. understanding is Brentford has some cash

13:32

to spend. has some cash to spend. And

13:34

so a lot of the lot of seen as

13:37

to a seen is to a

13:39

called player in Italy who's sort of

13:41

holding the fielder and of holding the be out,

13:43

and I think he'd be brilliant. I see the way

13:45

that a few of the watched a few of the games he's played

13:47

and the way he he the ball. the games he's I think

13:49

it's the sort of thing parted sort of thing Brent It's

13:51

not so much of a needs. high

13:53

possession, high... you see it's about its press and

13:55

its it's about its to its ability to

13:57

pass it all quickly I think what I think

14:00

makes Brentford... effective and to have a player in

14:02

there that we can rotate with. So if

14:04

we have an injury for Jenson or Jana

14:06

or Norga that we have someone that you

14:08

can do their role, I think it would

14:10

be very useful. And the other thing may

14:12

be another fallback. I know we do have

14:14

those two players injured but again we have

14:16

no idea when they're coming back. What about

14:18

Christopher Iyer? Where's here at the minute? I

14:21

have been on and off. He's injured at

14:23

the moment I think for a few games.

14:25

But it just seems like he comes back

14:27

for one game, then it's gone again. But

14:29

I is a great, I love it. But

14:31

even then, he himself is more of a

14:33

centre back than a fallback. It's just because

14:35

he's been playing there so long that we've

14:37

sort of got used to him in my

14:39

head as a wider player. But it's when

14:42

we've had Icky and Henry out for nearly

14:44

a year and again. I don't think Frank's

14:46

mentioned them in the injury list for weeks.

14:48

So it was talks about, I think Henry

14:50

coming back at the start of the start

14:52

of the start of the start of the

14:54

season, but then, but then, but then, haven't

14:56

haven't heard since, haven't heard since. haven't heard

14:58

since. Okay, Finn, do you have a new

15:00

year's resolution? Quickly, Finn, do you have a

15:03

quick? New Year's resolution. Um... I... I'm your

15:05

choice. I haven't got one, no. All right,

15:07

Finn, well, thank you, Finn. Next time you

15:09

call in, Finn, Chris, to be happy, cheerful,

15:11

to be nice to callers. To be nice

15:13

to me. No, to be less patient, Rob,

15:15

this year. But to be less patient. This

15:17

year. Is it for Big An's to finish

15:19

in the top six or for your fours

15:21

to finish in the top four? Which one

15:24

do you prefer? I, uh... Oh, Blimey, that's

15:26

a good question. I'd like to see Big

15:28

An's to turn things right, great for the

15:30

Premier League. You know, we want to see

15:32

that brand of football, Rob. Oh, it's the

15:34

quarterfinals at the darts. Oh, Stephen Buntins, he's

15:36

a leg away from winning the second set.

15:38

James Greg, there's a... Oh, there's the music,

15:40

there you go. Double A, Christmas, you're like,

15:42

yeah. Have you been, Robbie? You must have

15:45

been down here. Yeah, I've got... Bood,

15:47

believe it or not.

15:49

Did you? or not. Did you?

15:51

A lot. I'm surprised. Just buys pals. Gee

15:53

fair, James, be fair, basically I

15:55

knew I knew I

15:57

was going to get

15:59

a Bood, and when

16:01

the TV camera went

16:03

on me, you know

16:06

the signs you hold

16:08

up. went on if you

16:10

think I was the

16:12

greatest football hold up? I nice.

16:14

if good. It was

16:16

one of the legendary I

16:18

was the Did anybody

16:20

boo? ever. Everybody good. It's from the legend here

16:22

in That's just the hilarity

16:25

of the Did isn't it? It

16:27

really is. Love it. boo.

16:29

Peter he's he's he's got his back got

16:31

his back against the wall snake bite two-time

16:34

winner of Luke of Luke in the in

16:36

the last round course being tamed by bunting at

16:38

the at the moment massive massive crowd

16:40

he I bet he I bet they're

16:42

not booing him Rob but he has been he has

16:44

been great so far been great so far

16:46

he's just only 180 of the match He's had

16:49

the only 180 of the match

16:51

Not the highest standard this first

16:53

match of the evening session earlier

16:55

on we had some so yeah looking forward

16:57

to that to that and of course

16:59

Luke Littler up against the Aspenol. Exactly. Look, I know Nathan

17:01

I know Nathan Aspenal a a

17:03

lot of support here and he

17:05

up up the crowd he celebrates

17:07

massive and all that kind of

17:09

stuff and he's won easy

17:12

all the way through. But through. But...

17:14

he's got to be a lot

17:16

better tonight better tonight to So Loretta So

17:18

would you say? It though would

17:20

great. I know we had 140

17:22

average in the last in of

17:24

in of the previous games set

17:26

that one of set games and that it

17:28

white? set against um oh was it white? Well white and

17:30

Joyce yeah Joyce so Joyce that last

17:32

set but set, a looked

17:34

a little bit nervous, not

17:36

playing as well as he can.

17:38

a a on tonight. It is, it is, but

17:40

you know, I mean, what mean, what

17:42

were you two I I mean,

17:44

you were were on pro contracts

17:46

at 17, weren't you, but I

17:48

at I wouldn't you, but I mean... No, I wasn't,

17:50

I was a week. on was a

17:52

British record a week. That was a British record

17:55

was for, um, that was any joking Premier

17:57

League, you know, as well, League, you

17:59

know, as well, record signing. But at 17, I

18:01

mean, can you imagine helping with all

18:03

that? You know, he's brilliant. He does

18:05

well to get up there and after,

18:08

you know, a couple of sets is

18:10

playing his way into it and he

18:12

is like an artist and he just

18:14

sort of wills his way around the

18:17

board. He's brilliant to watch. Did we

18:19

get a nine data? Nine data tonight?

18:21

There's been two already. We've got to.

18:23

I think in the next three nights

18:26

we're gonna get at least one nine

18:28

data. That's my, that's my, that's my

18:30

prediction. Okay. James, thank you so much

18:32

for the call. Pissing out the day,

18:35

it's not good at home, Chris? No,

18:37

I've not really watched it this year,

18:39

can't do you? Things on, Robting. You've

18:42

got a big one tomorrow, isn't it?

18:44

Rangers Celtic, Celtic. Yes. It's over a

18:46

Celtic win in it. It's over now,

18:48

isn't it? No, it wasn't as over,

18:51

Rob. I mean, if you're a Celtic

18:53

play, you can't think like that. We're

18:55

14 points at the moment. But yeah,

18:57

let's put it out there. It's the

19:00

league over north of the board of

19:02

ranges and Celtic fans. Oh wait, oh,

19:04

805, 909-6-9-3. Thank you so much. Move

19:07

back to you in a bit, James.

19:09

Let's go to Matthew, Matthew, it is,

19:11

yeah, how are you, mate? I'm not

19:13

bad, not bad. Chris, you're what I

19:16

mean? Yeah, yeah, good thanks. Matthew, do

19:18

you have a good, good Christmas? I

19:20

did mate, actually, yeah, put the world

19:22

to rights like everyone else don't, the

19:25

lovely Christmas. But what's your best and

19:27

worst present, Matthew? I'd like to fuck

19:29

presents, actually. Oh, nice, nice, good. Yes,

19:32

right mate. So yeah, thoroughly enjoyed the

19:34

performance like you did. Press Brentford, penned

19:36

them back, not easy to do it,

19:38

the G Tech Community Stadium, got the

19:41

three points, but I think the concern

19:43

like the first Arsenal caller alluded to

19:45

is the lack of clinicality. I know

19:47

that Gabriel Jesus' forms picked up very

19:50

much, we're delighted for it. is all

19:52

around game place, you know, you

19:54

know deserves more he

19:56

was he was getting

19:59

more goals He

20:01

would be some some striker,

20:03

wouldn't he? But I I

20:06

think they they need need

20:08

another striker. I

20:10

don't think the Eastack

20:13

deal will be, will be to do to do in

20:15

a month like this. Valvic might be a better deal.

20:17

I be a better deal. I don't

20:19

know what you guys think about that. that.

20:22

But he's been linked been linked for

20:24

a while, But has. your gut feeling, Matthew,

20:26

on this, on this? Artetta didn't want

20:28

to strike her last season, season,

20:30

didn't, did he thought he had

20:33

enough. But this but the age -old

20:35

debate, and when you see when

20:37

you see Liverpool... And I I know,

20:39

to be fair, you mentioned Jesus

20:41

today have out and and Saka out and

20:43

that's you know a significant loss,

20:45

especially Saka, but when

20:47

you see Liverpool and the

20:49

rotation that they can make

20:51

in forward areas, Is is

20:53

that gonna be the

20:55

difference this year, year Matthew? I think

20:57

think it is, look at the play you

21:00

look at the sheer number

21:02

of players, he's go. Reese what Reese Nelson's on

21:04

loan is on the isn't he? the area.

21:06

I don't know what the situation

21:08

on that one is, I don't know don't know

21:10

whether he's going to come back next

21:12

season, but Neil Smith but Neil Smith is

21:14

not and Ketch, has not really set it

21:16

a light out at Palace. It just does look

21:19

thin, doesn't it? thin doesn't Jesus, you

21:21

know, we all like gabriel jesus

21:23

you know in terms of

21:25

his game of his game play, he's

21:27

absolutely fantastic, his work ethic, it's you

21:30

know get it get you it

21:32

doesn't, you know, get the goals know deserves,

21:34

you know, there's that debate in he

21:36

good enough to really to really

21:38

leave the lining up. What are you saying?

21:41

Sorry? Sorry? do What do you think? Well, I

21:43

do think he needs another one. I

21:45

do. think he needs another

21:47

one. I think he my opinion. one.

21:49

I And he needs another one

21:51

a creative midfielder as as well, just

21:53

to Martin. I don't know. We've got

21:55

I know we've got Ethan Wagnari, We were all

21:57

all delighted to see him play today.

22:00

today. Maybe he's looking to ease and then,

22:02

but maybe another creative metaphor, maybe like

22:04

someone like Everett, he has a that

22:06

would add a bit more orchestration. Yeah,

22:09

do you, do you, Matthew, do you,

22:11

are you one of those Arsenal fans

22:13

who? So it's beginning to think, because

22:15

you ran Manchester City so close last

22:18

season, then you see Liverpool away in

22:20

the distance this season, albeit I do

22:22

think you're the team who can challenge

22:24

them, but is this going to be

22:26

a missed opportunity? These, you know, these

22:29

years where, you know, where you, it

22:31

looks like you're going to be the

22:33

bridesmaids again, doesn't it? It looks like

22:35

you're going to be second place again.

22:38

When you look like the games this

22:40

season, three times on the spin, we

22:42

want it, the Tottenham Oxford Stadium. Yeah,

22:44

but you need, do you need to

22:47

think about sort of, you know, more

22:49

than just beating Tottenham as a reason

22:51

to get the button out as you?

22:53

No, no, no, no, not until, I

22:56

mean, defensively, you know, we've been good

22:58

at times, but it's not quite there

23:00

this season. It's that lack of clinicality

23:02

and ruthlessness that's going to let us

23:05

down in Liverpool. Liverpool, look the real

23:07

deal, I'm not saying that we won't

23:09

challenge Liverpool, you've got to look at

23:11

Chelsea as well, who look really good,

23:14

who were never going to be as

23:16

bad as they were lastly. They lost

23:18

a hip switch the other night, Chelsea?

23:20

They did, yeah. OK, OK, listen, Matthew,

23:23

thank you so much for the call,

23:25

loot and town, Chris, the 20th lost

23:27

their own today, to your Norwich. I'm

23:29

sorry for no stories. Scored by the

23:32

canaries in their own backyard. He must

23:34

be under pressure, Robert. I love Robert

23:36

with the job which he's done, but

23:38

I'm in the... You got me the

23:41

Premier League last year? Well I know,

23:43

but I'm just, well let's, you know,

23:45

I think we've got... Why not saying

23:47

what you're saying, under pressure? Under pressure,

23:50

should he? Well, I mean... Premier

23:52

League last year,

23:54

come on. Listen, we

23:56

don't watch we every

23:58

week. OK, let's

24:01

hear what week, a

24:03

real Luton town Mark, a

24:05

hear what Mark

24:07

thinks. Mark. fan, Happy

24:10

New Year hear what New Year

24:12

thinks, Mark, to you, Happy to hear, Mark. Happy

24:14

So what do you think? I'm a

24:16

little bit worried about your team. Happy

24:19

to We're not worried about Happy us here, you're not

24:21

worried about them. Well I am, to Well you're

24:23

not, yeah. You're not worried about to hear, Mark.

24:25

Happy to hear, Mark. worried,

24:27

hear, you, Mark. I'm worried.

24:30

20th, 20th in 20th in the

24:32

you know, fall know, great not worried You're

24:34

not worried, about these. be worried, but

24:36

you're not worried about worried, would I'm

24:38

worried about Luton, are you? worried

24:40

about Luton. Are you? Yeah, I've

24:43

been today, driven back driven back

24:45

an hour and a half I'll be honest,

24:47

I'll be honest, I thought I've a ring

24:49

yet. yes. It pains me to it pains

24:51

me to do this Edwards, as robedwoods

24:53

as you can believe it to so

24:55

to, I gave me one of of the best

24:57

days of my life 18 months ago in terms

24:59

of being a football fan. fan when

25:01

us up to the up to the Premier League but

25:04

He's lost the fans, he's lost the

25:06

team. we've got 25 points got 25 games

25:08

in 25 games. not one

25:10

of these people get get me wrong, I'm not

25:12

one of these people who sat there and

25:14

said, up we've come down, we'll go up, we'll

25:16

get under points, we'll storm back up. expected expected

25:19

that, you know we should you know. to have a We

25:21

should be able to have a decent run at

25:23

the year year with the squad we've got, but we've

25:25

We've lost away league games games in a

25:27

row. in a row. We've won one away league

25:29

game game in the whole of

25:31

last calendar year. year. And today was

25:33

just a disgraceful just a

25:35

disgraceful performance it's obvious the

25:38

players have players of down that a a

25:40

lot of them seem to think that

25:42

they're too good for it too good for

25:44

it now. Mark, I said I was listening to

25:46

Live all afternoon. It sounded like like loot and

25:48

I think you hit the bar. I

25:50

think you hit the had opportunities. It

25:52

sounded like It an even game to

25:54

me. Is that is that fair?

25:57

that fair? It was

25:59

Well, it depends. I turned

26:01

to my mate halfway through the third

26:03

star, well, a bit near half-time, actually,

26:05

and I'd said, if this is on

26:08

a Premier League game, on match of

26:10

the day, this is basically heading for

26:12

last place. A bit disrespectful to Norwich,

26:14

that aren't, but... Well, I'll be honest,

26:17

Chris. You're saying you're worried about loot,

26:19

and I'll be worried about them, because

26:21

they weren't any great shakes, because they

26:23

weren't any great shakes. just outside the

26:25

box just drilled it into the farcorder

26:28

into the side netting can understand it's

26:30

a bit of a shit yeah that

26:32

shouldn't have gone in but he the

26:34

problem is I mean so we're one

26:36

ill down so I don't know what

26:39

was it 65 minute around there they

26:41

scored didn't make a change to the

26:43

83rd minute and the crowd and this

26:45

this is an example of it the

26:47

whole loot and home end the singing

26:50

it's a miracle it's a miracle it's

26:52

a miracle Um, Rob Edwards deserve better

26:54

though, just because of the journey, which

26:56

it was impossible. Isn't it, you know,

26:58

impossible that he did? Listen, Mark, listen,

27:01

sorry to interrupt, thank you so much

27:03

for the call, because Rob Northman is

27:05

with the Arsenal Manager, Michael Artetta. Oh,

27:07

Thomas Frank, the Brentford Manager, sorry. That's

27:09

right, Robbie, Thomas Frank, is here, and...

27:12

The game started well, won it up,

27:14

you had a difficult beginning right at

27:16

the start of the game and yet

27:18

managed to hit them on that first

27:20

counter-attack. At that stage, did you think

27:23

where, you know, the tactics are working

27:25

well? I don't think the beginning to

27:27

the game was that difficult, if I'm

27:29

honest, but maybe I'm wrong, I need

27:31

to look back at that. I think

27:34

overall, I think we performed well. I

27:36

think especially first of all, first half

27:38

all I was very pleased with. I

27:40

think, I love the way we played,

27:42

I thought we were very brave, I

27:45

thought in our phase one, I think

27:47

we got out of, relatively easy, out

27:49

of the pressure. I think you're very

27:51

good in the high pressure and the

27:54

man man. I thought we

27:56

defended well -low, well

27:58

scored a brilliant goal

28:00

to goal -0. nil. And then

28:02

of course if we want to win

28:05

a game like this, we need to

28:07

be of course, if

28:09

we And the three to win

28:11

a game like this, we need to be

28:13

perfect in the big moments. In the three

28:15

big moments that went against us, we were

28:17

not perfect. that one. We first one, we need

28:19

to do better on that one. We can't

28:21

concede that if we want to get something

28:23

out of the game. set pieces, they only had only had

28:25

three corners, so didn't didn't give a lot of

28:27

way. But this one, this one, unfortunately, dropped, it for them.

28:30

them. I need to to look more into

28:32

detail. It was messy messy. in that situation. that

28:34

situation so I need to

28:36

look into it but of course

28:38

we concede, we need to win

28:40

need to win that set piece the third

28:42

one as well I one as need

28:44

to do better. I think three

28:47

big do better. So the didn't, moners overall

28:49

play The overall high level, a high level,

28:51

high I'm very pleased very competed

28:53

with competed with set So the you mentioned

28:55

you mean for Arsenal to score

28:57

again to know about know all about their

28:59

set he used to be here.

29:01

to be here. How much time do you

29:04

spend trying to make sure that

29:06

you nullify what they do? course, you

29:08

spend a course you spend a lot

29:10

of time on it. We do

29:12

that for every game. game. So it doesn't

29:15

change too much to this game.

29:17

course Of course, a little bit more

29:19

more of the threat they the threat they

29:21

pose. I think think it's important to

29:23

say that to say that we've goals from now

29:25

two goals in 19 games. 19

29:27

games. That's the best

29:29

in the league, so we

29:31

are relatively good at it. good

29:33

didn't drop for us, didn't drop

29:35

for us. Those statistics do speak

29:37

for speak for just one quick

29:39

thing But Arsenal do near the

29:42

thing in that they block

29:44

the goalkeeper from getting a

29:46

proper punch the goalkeeper from the ball.

29:48

What can you do defensively

29:50

to stop your goalkeeper being

29:52

in a way goalkeeper being the

29:54

way that he gets at

29:57

the ball? in think that he gets

29:59

at there. I do that myself. We

30:01

know they're good. I think they are

30:03

the best in the world. And we

30:05

need to look at them and see

30:07

what we can learn from them. That's

30:09

what I will say. I think I'm

30:12

pretty sure that there's quite a few

30:14

teams that try to find out how

30:16

can we make sure the goalkeeper can

30:18

get out. And as far as I

30:20

know, none of the 19 teams have

30:22

managed to do that. So one last

30:24

thing in terms of what you want

30:27

to see from your team now moving

30:29

forward, you've got loads of games coming

30:31

up in January, you've got plenty of

30:33

injuries at the moment, do you feel

30:35

that you're still in a decent spot?

30:37

Yeah, I think it's okay. Of course,

30:39

I have a lot to have more

30:42

players available, but that is what is.

30:44

I know the medical department is working

30:46

very hard to get everyone fit and

30:48

available. I think we put a very

30:50

competitive team out today, and I thought

30:52

they did well. Well, thank you very

30:55

much for your time. That's the Brentford

30:57

manager Thomas Frank Robbie and Michael Artetta

30:59

will be with us in the next

31:01

five or six minutes or so. Happy

31:03

New Year, Rob. Thanks to speak to

31:05

you. Happy Year to you too. Thank

31:07

you. Oh, joy five. 909-693. That was

31:10

the Brentford manager. Rob just... Yes I

31:12

know Christopher and I did say Thomas

31:14

Frank but you know producers... First of

31:16

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31:18

Producers and the team, behind the scenes,

31:20

obviously did a great night last night.

31:22

Sir Alex Ferguson is the most successful

31:25

British manager of all time. So

31:30

how did this apprentice toolmaker from

31:33

Glasgow become one of the most

31:35

iconic figures in sporting history? He's

31:37

strength of character, his determination, their

31:40

fight on him. Ferguson was every

31:42

department. He can be persuasive, he

31:44

can be charming, he can be

31:47

frightening. Go down is the best,

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Cates and this is sporting giants,

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there there for us It is

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nil here, Robbie. Sutherland, unbeaten at home at

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home this season have not won either

32:31

not won either of their

32:33

last two games back can

32:35

go back second tonight some way back,

32:37

hoping back pace to keep pace

32:39

with those challenging for It's

32:41

simmering with excitement here here

32:43

at the Sutherland, Neil, Sheffield

32:45

United nil at

32:48

the at the moment. Peter Wright v.

32:50

Stephen Bunting up the darts. James Craig.

32:52

The big man, the bullet. Stephen Bunting,

32:54

checking out from 143 in out for leg of that

32:56

third set. He's the second leg of

32:58

that third set. He's now if he gets

33:00

his it's first on and beats Peter so

33:02

if he gets his skates on be

33:04

a real right, 5 -0, which would

33:06

be a real a bit of the I

33:08

might get to watch a bit

33:10

of the Sheffield United Sunderland match before

33:12

Luke, the new clitler, to the the hockey. a

33:14

bit against Nathan Nathan in the

33:16

final of those quarter -final matches. Earlier

33:18

we had wins for Earlier we Michael

33:20

Van for it's been a great

33:22

day Van Goohin. It's been a great day at Aurora Sally Valley.

33:24

Oh 8.85, 6, the 9, 3 is

33:26

the number to call. Just before

33:29

we got to Joe, the Arsenal Chris,

33:31

who do who do you hear from

33:33

tonight? tonight? Well I to hear from

33:35

Manchester United fans on just where

33:37

they think they season is heading. Amberham

33:39

clearly needs time, but this mean,

33:42

this is a real mess. And

33:44

is there a Manchester United fan

33:46

out there who actually does think

33:48

you're in a relegation battle? And I

33:50

And I'll tell you goes Christopher, the verb,

33:52

time, Michaela Teta is speaking a fantastic Rob Nothman. Happy

33:55

New Year to new year to who has a big

33:57

has a big smile on his

33:59

face in front to us here. You've got

34:01

some injuries, illness in the camp, you're

34:03

a goal down early on, so how

34:05

much satisfaction does that victory give you?

34:07

I love the attitude and the spirit

34:09

of the team. It's a really difficult

34:11

place to come when you look at

34:14

the results and how they're performing games.

34:16

Very, very tricky. And on top of

34:18

that, you're going down, as you said,

34:20

and it's a big mountain to climb

34:22

against this team. We've done it, being

34:24

very composed, really determined as well and

34:26

insisting a lot. Another set piece goal

34:28

from a corner. Are you surprised by

34:30

just the volume of goals that you

34:32

have scored from set pieces? Well, I'm

34:34

very pleased because it's a big factor,

34:37

especially when a team defends with such

34:39

a density in their own box. You

34:41

need to generate certain chaos. It's not

34:43

this impossible. Just call the perfect goal

34:45

all the time. So having that weapon

34:47

is really good. So we talk all

34:49

the time about marginal gains, especially at

34:51

the elite level. Can you give people

34:53

an idea? How much time in a

34:55

training week would you devote to set

34:57

pieces? Is it 10% 20% how much

35:00

time? depends, depends, attacking and defending and

35:02

then all the restarts. So it's not

35:04

just about that. I think we train,

35:06

we train all the sequences of play

35:08

that are very common for us and

35:10

they can put us in a good

35:12

position to win the game. Are you

35:14

happy with the resources that you've got,

35:16

bearing in mind you have got some

35:18

injuries and some illness? Are you likely

35:20

to try to strengthen during January? I'm

35:22

very happy with the team that we

35:25

have. If we have people nice and

35:27

healthy, we will be up there. But

35:29

yeah, you are always scared that if

35:31

more injuries happen, that you can be

35:33

short. But let's see what happens in

35:35

the market. And one last thing from

35:37

me, six points behind Liverpool now. Does

35:39

it give you real clarity of thought

35:41

for the remainder of the season that

35:43

in a way you can't have any

35:45

slip-ups now, almost till the end of

35:48

the season? I mean if a slip-up

35:50

is then you have to win a

35:52

big game. If not, it's a slip-up,

35:54

you know, we can control and try

35:56

to do our best to perform the

35:58

level that we're required to win games,

36:00

after that is not in our hands.

36:02

Well, thanks so much for your time.

36:04

Well done to Michael Artetta, the Arsenal

36:06

manager after there. Three one win at

36:08

Brentford, Robbie. Rob, what was the best

36:11

and worst Christmas present you had? It's

36:13

fair to say the golf, the golf

36:15

tea cozy, which goes on my head,

36:17

not a good one. Wow, thank you

36:19

so much. Rob, Joe, you're an awesome

36:21

fan of you Joe. Yeah, I'm just...

36:23

Just get over the T-cozy, but yeah,

36:25

I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. How you

36:27

doing, right? Yeah, good, thanks Joe. Happy

36:29

New Year, mate. Yeah, happy New Year

36:31

to you and other team. Yeah, and

36:33

I was just, yeah, I was just

36:36

thinking about the connection between Marcus Rashford.

36:38

and mainly I did, and all this,

36:40

the situation they've got there, and then

36:42

you've got Arsenal who have got, you

36:44

know, sacral for a certain amount of

36:46

time, the, the transfer of windows just

36:48

opened. So it's like, and then when

36:50

you, the more you think about it,

36:52

the more it kind of makes sense,

36:54

but for both teams, the manually have,

36:56

they can't afford to buy anyone in

36:59

January unless they sell someone, they've got

37:01

a, a striker who, you sat the

37:03

bench, you, you know, you know, you

37:05

know, you know, you know, you know,

37:07

you know, you know, you know, you

37:09

know, you know, you know, you know,

37:11

you know, you know, you know, you

37:13

know, you know, you know, you know,

37:15

you know, you know, you know, you

37:17

know, you know, you know, you know,

37:19

you know, you know, you know, you

37:22

know, you know, you, you know, you,

37:24

you, you, you, you know, you the

37:26

bench last game, you know, three games

37:28

full out, you know, nowhere to be

37:30

seen, so, you know, well, you know,

37:32

sound, the stands and all the rest

37:34

of it. And then you've got us,

37:36

you've got the ability to take a

37:38

player, like for example, Haberts, where we

37:40

bought someone in, who's been under performing

37:42

another team, and our test, and the

37:44

coaching staff, have bought this kind of

37:47

magic out, and... They put the magic

37:49

out of habits, but what he does

37:51

for the team is not what...

37:53

we need right now.

37:55

Well, we need... you need

37:57

a a rashford? you

37:59

need a Rashford then,

38:01

then, right now? Well, I

38:03

mean, what the

38:05

thing is though, is

38:07

I reckon under the

38:10

under the right nurturing, when he's shown

38:12

in the past shown in

38:14

the past that when

38:16

he feels psychologically good Rashford

38:18

is like smacked Rashford 30 goals in

38:20

he's goals form. I feeling on

38:22

form. I've just got

38:24

this optimism you you take

38:26

something like that, that. a Moanite team

38:28

that to get rid of

38:30

some players, players, a player is

38:32

sat sidelines who's probably

38:34

bringing down the changing the changing room,

38:36

in the the training pitch

38:39

the rest of it, you know, I'm not,

38:41

that's no question of rush for, I'm just

38:43

saying, even if someone turns up... Is

38:45

you need need? Is that what you

38:47

need? Is the what the

38:49

changing You see, I mean, they're that

38:51

what bringing down the mood in the

38:54

changing room, so is that... He's not

38:56

going to do it for us. it

38:58

do you How do you know that? Just to

39:00

stop you there, you there, Joe, because

39:02

there might be a penalty penalty Adam

39:04

Sund and Adam Cotty. It and it's for

39:06

Sheffield United, Keith Amour, who had

39:08

his shirt pulled by Luke his shirt

39:11

It looks fairly harsh from my from

39:13

my but in front of where

39:15

of where the... Sheffield United as are.

39:17

are, has a chance to

39:19

give them has a chance to give them an

39:21

early lead because stadium, a light, has

39:23

made a save with his

39:25

feet. Moore went down the

39:27

middle, made a and the goalkeeper

39:29

saves with his feet. It's

39:31

a fine middle and the and it

39:33

stays saves -nil. feet, it's a there

39:35

you go. Nil -nil stays Penalty.

39:37

Sorry, there you go, Back to you, mate. save,

39:39

penalty, sorry Joe, back to you mate.

39:41

No worries. Yeah I think he's...

39:44

Do we need rashford? I

39:46

mean, what we could do with a bit

39:48

we could do our a bit of and

39:50

our technician and the coaching team the

39:53

the amount of positivity that is

39:55

around the training around the Arsenal.

39:57

around Arsenal, you you hear...

40:00

off of interviews of everyone and comes

40:02

in, the genuine feeling that they're being

40:04

looked after. And you look at the

40:06

line of players that have come into

40:09

Arsenal over the last couple of decades

40:11

who have felt that love and then

40:13

fall in love with the place. I

40:16

mean, you know, I mean, the better

40:18

players are like, well, no, I paid

40:20

for Arsenal, I love Arsenal. And I

40:22

reckon Marcus Rashra coming in, especially after

40:25

what he's done, is he's carried on

40:27

that legacy. that are the main set

40:29

up which is caring for the emotions

40:32

of the players. He carries on doing

40:34

that. And this is why, you know,

40:36

fabricating on really, you know, the list

40:38

goes endless really. I reckon Rashford coming

40:41

under our wing, I think he's an

40:43

incredible player. I reckon psychologically he's been

40:45

knocked about a bit. He's in a

40:48

Manny Night team that have Harry McGuirer

40:50

as their bloody captain in the last

40:52

game. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm

40:55

sorry, I don't, hang on, and I

40:57

know that's, that's not PC at the

40:59

moment, to, to, to knock off Harry

41:01

McGuire. But what I'm saying is, I

41:04

just, you know, that he's coming, he's

41:06

leaving a sinking ship and Manny Night

41:08

and I think we can bring the

41:11

best out of him. So, you know,

41:13

I'm... I'm up for it. It's interesting

41:15

actually as well listening to that Michael

41:17

Artissa interview that's just gone. You know,

41:20

you know, he doesn't normally pause that

41:22

long when he says like, you know,

41:24

January windows open and you're going to

41:27

bring some more players in. Big, big

41:29

pause, you know, he was a kind

41:31

of, oh, we've got, you know, I'm

41:33

very proud of the players I have.

41:36

but there was a big of a

41:38

big pause and towards the end of

41:40

them you know we'll see what happens

41:43

in the market so from the other

41:45

side of things I think I think

41:47

they're picking up on that opportunity and

41:50

yeah give Russia I mean if we're

41:52

given a role on Sterling um Blessone

41:54

that doesn't work out or hasn't worked

41:56

out yeah okay yeah Joe Joe listen

41:59

thank you so much Where are you

42:01

Rob? I think it's a good fit

42:03

Rashford Arsenal. It's a Rashford, a risk

42:06

worth taking. Yeah, for me. May, yeah.

42:08

Yeah. Okay. Do you not think? I

42:10

would just... If you're getting, if you're

42:12

getting the perfect markers Rashford, of course,

42:15

but I think that there are question

42:17

marks about him. Would you take, if

42:19

you were, if you were asking... It

42:22

would worry me. So you're not taking

42:24

him? It seems harmonious dressing me, it

42:26

would work me. So Chris, if you

42:28

were asked, or you wouldn't say it,

42:31

I'm not sure. Well, I'd be doing

42:33

a little due diligence, Rob, and so

42:35

there's, you know, doing my checks, really.

42:38

That's what I'd be doing, is just

42:40

as well. Did you ever make a

42:42

decision as a manager? Seriously, all over

42:45

the place, you. The new year started,

42:47

it's on fire, James, Greg. He absolutely

42:49

is. He's making mincemeats of Snake Bike.

42:51

The two-time world champion has had an

42:54

absolute nightmare here. So Stephen Bunting the

42:56

Masters champion, just to set away from

42:58

a semi-final at the world championship here

43:01

at Ali Pali. Don't get me wrong.

43:03

He's a big crowd favourite, but I

43:05

think they do want a bit more

43:07

excitement than this. He leaves right for

43:10

nil. Oh wait, oh wait, oh five,

43:12

nine or nine, six. Wouldn't rule him

43:14

out, yeah Peter, right, snake bite, I

43:17

wouldn't, wouldn't rule him out. Let me

43:19

ask you a question, this is what

43:21

you probably can answer. Do you think

43:23

Stephen Bunton or Peter Wright a win

43:26

this game? Uh, oh, can you come

43:28

back to me on that? Let's go

43:30

to Ellie as a Manchester United fan,

43:33

how are you, Happy New Year, mate.

43:35

And you too, gentlemen, well, I'm very

43:37

demoralised, very depressed, very depressed. Very depressed.

43:40

Oh, did you not have a good

43:42

Christmas, Elliot? What happened to you? You

43:44

know, when you're a football supporter, you

43:46

really do hope for the games at

43:49

Christmas and at the break. You know,

43:51

you really want to see good football,

43:53

you want to see improvement. And to

43:56

be perfectly... honest we've seen

43:58

nothing of that

44:00

at Manchester United. We've

44:02

seen we've seen That's what

44:05

we've seen. what You know, you asked

44:07

you couple of minutes back of minutes back

44:09

are in the are zone or could

44:11

be. zone or Now let me point this

44:13

out to you. We've got you games

44:15

coming up against Liverpool, the mighty

44:17

Liverpool, and then we've got Arsenal. If

44:19

we get defeated if we get defeated badly by

44:22

that's them and that's The team

44:24

itself, the players. the be

44:26

thoroughly demoralized. There will be

44:28

a be a of of confidence and of

44:30

confidence creates despair.

44:33

despair. who quite frankly,

44:35

a is not really who quite

44:38

at home is the Premier League. He

44:40

still doesn't in the Premier and

44:43

tactics of the way

44:45

you should play. understand you

44:47

basic that? and

44:49

about to say, you see,

44:51

the way you should play. If you you

44:53

thought that the mentality of the

44:55

manager was correct, let me ask

44:57

you a question. Would you bring

44:59

him him the squad? Would you bring

45:01

him back into the squad? Put

45:04

him on the bench, him on the bench,

45:06

him in a way. him in him

45:08

on the bench, the leave him there and

45:10

then decide to take to off a

45:12

runner, a a guy with a lot of

45:14

energy. Take Take him off then then Erickson, a

45:16

guy a guy who's got no legs, a

45:18

a legs, lot of talent. Four

45:20

years ago he was he was he's

45:23

not now. he's not now, and putting in that role

45:25

that has vacated and then leave

45:27

Rashford on the bench. Would you

45:29

do that if your mentors... Well, what I do

45:31

think, do is... Would you do that? Is, well, I'm

45:33

now answering it. answering it. Will you

45:35

answer the question please, Yeah, Chris?

45:37

Hey, I tell I tell you what

45:39

you're both doing, you're both you're

45:41

so I'm not getting the

45:43

opportunity to the opportunity to ask. Can I? always

45:45

I There you go again. go again, come on. He

45:47

on. us off there us off that, So

45:50

I go on. that come on. a bigger

45:52

I think don't a bigger picture.

45:54

I don't think any of this

45:56

is on Amroom. think I think I this

45:58

is on on. This is on this is on any. This

46:00

is on a bigger picture. If you

46:02

have a disruptor in the dressing room,

46:04

then it doesn't matter how good Marcus

46:06

Rashford is. It's about the bigger picture.

46:08

And in Eos, in Eos got hammer

46:10

him in, they sort of put him

46:13

under pressure to make a decision. They

46:15

knew that the way that he played

46:17

and they knew that they would have

46:19

to be a patient. And he has

46:21

to deal with players as he sees

46:23

fit. I am not partly to everything

46:25

which goes on in the Manchester United

46:28

Dressford. Clearly there's an an issue with

46:30

Rashford. But if he has certain standards

46:32

and he sets a certain bar and

46:34

Rashford is below that bar, then I

46:36

think that he has to deal with

46:38

that in the way that he sees

46:41

fit and that's what he's doing. And

46:43

it's for the good of the team

46:45

and for the bigger picture. This isn't

46:47

all about short-term fixes, but I'm concerned

46:49

as you are about Manchester United's form,

46:51

Elliot. Chris just one second,

46:53

please. You've evaded the issue. No,

46:56

I haven't. You didn't answer the

46:58

question. You didn't answer the question.

47:00

You're always going to provoke, but

47:02

you won't answer the question. Oh,

47:04

what was your question? Answer the

47:06

question, sir. You can't even remember

47:08

your question, Elliot. Well, I can

47:10

assure you that Robbie does. The

47:12

question is simple. Why does the

47:14

manager? Who you think has got

47:16

needs time, doesn't have a lot

47:18

to go for him, needs experience?

47:20

Why do you think he brings

47:23

him back into the squat, shoveling

47:25

him on the bench? The carrot.

47:27

Is the carrot? No excuse me.

47:29

Why do you expect him to

47:31

do that? Do you think that

47:33

that is common sense? Um, well,

47:35

it's the question. Well, it's the,

47:37

it's, it's the old carrot technique,

47:39

isn't it? It's the sort of,

47:41

you know, you, it's the first

47:43

step. We're letting you back on

47:45

the bench, Marcus. You behave yourself

47:47

in the week, you train hard.

47:50

We might, we might give you

47:52

a run out next time. Marcus.

47:54

What is Amorim's motive down? Amorim

47:56

goes into the club. He wants

47:58

to achieve great things. Marcus Rashford

48:00

is, as we all know, we've

48:02

had, you know, call us on

48:04

earlier, the caller before wanted him

48:06

to go to Arsenal. We know

48:08

he's a superb talent. We know

48:10

he's a superb talent when he's...

48:12

when his attitude is right but

48:14

clearly there are issues and amoram,

48:16

ruben amoramoram is dealing with those

48:19

issues that's actually it's actually unfair

48:21

on ruben amoram this whole situation.

48:23

I've heard that before the carrot

48:25

technique carrot technique we use that

48:27

a lot in Norfolk Elliot. Can

48:29

I face them to you both

48:31

please? The biggest value in my

48:33

opinion I said this last year

48:35

to both you would be to

48:37

send somebody into the club who's

48:39

an independent-minded individual. such as a

48:41

Robbie who was there as a

48:43

young kid and to allow him

48:46

to look at what United is

48:48

possibly doing. They've got David Brailsford,

48:50

the cyclist who's going in to

48:52

do that? What does he know

48:54

about football? It's like saying... Please,

48:56

Chris, don't be so naive. But

48:58

hang on them and are you

49:00

saying Dave Brailsford doesn't do anything?

49:02

Well, I'll tell you what I'm

49:04

going to do, Chris, what I'm

49:06

going to do is if Mac

49:08

is struggling here, I'm going to

49:10

get Jonathan Davis in from Rugby

49:13

Union, come and have a look

49:15

at this, Jonathan. Seriously. Well, yeah,

49:17

but he might come in and

49:19

sort out your player's mindset when

49:21

you go up a level and

49:23

you will melt. And it's my...

49:25

Listen, let me tell you something,

49:27

gentlemen. Talk about Marcus Rashford. Now

49:29

the young guy is a very

49:31

nice... He's a good guy. He's

49:33

not a flat. How do you

49:35

know this, Elliot? So Rubenamren left

49:37

him out of the squad because

49:39

he's a good guy? No. He

49:42

left him out of the squad

49:44

because he wants to teach him

49:46

a lesson. He wants to show

49:48

him that he's only a kid

49:50

in a school and he needs

49:52

to be treated like an infantile.

49:54

So he brings him back, teases

49:56

him, puts him on the bench.

49:58

and allows to watch

50:00

Manchester United. disintegrate

50:02

in front of him. That is

50:04

the tactic that That uses. If that that

50:06

on me, I he used would deal

50:09

with Ammarine. would deal that. How would you

50:11

deal with him, Elliot? do that. would

50:13

you deal with you deal I'm afraid to

50:15

say I'd take him outside and

50:17

I'd show him how take him outside you

50:19

don't you don't deal with him. You see, you

50:21

You don't don't to human you might

50:23

not like them You might got

50:25

to work with them.

50:27

They're footballers. them. They're footballers.

50:29

particularly enjoying the time he's actually

50:31

got to manage got but he's got

50:33

him, but he's got psychology the

50:36

got to be prepared

50:38

to sit down and

50:40

understand and understand what what what is thinking.

50:42

I know I know Rashwood's

50:44

a extremely good talent. seasons

50:46

ago he was on fire ago

50:48

he suddenly it went down. it went

50:51

For what reason, I do not know, but that

50:53

is the key factor. the key factor. Okay,

50:55

Elliot, thank you thank you

50:57

so much for the call. The

50:59

carrot technique, that's it. the carrot technique.

51:01

It's a well -known technique I

51:04

like Elliot, he's so I like a

51:06

little bit, you a little bit,

51:08

you know, he's you outside if he's unhappy

51:10

with the decision you make. how

51:13

I'll tell you what, Christopher, Is

51:15

the comeback on at the darts, James? Oh, it

51:17

could well it could well be

51:19

been shocking for all for all of

51:21

this match as Peter Wright. Two-time King

51:23

of the the here at here

51:25

at Ali Pali. It's from nowhere, started average 104 in

51:27

that fifth set, he's pulled

51:29

it back. It's now It's now for

51:31

one, Stephen Bunting, straight off the

51:33

stage, shaking his head. Could

51:35

we see the mother of

51:37

all all comebacks? I I think we

51:40

could. think You think so?

51:42

I think we could. I

51:44

think he went early on Peter right.

51:46

He's known as a known as a

51:48

really strong finisher. on the You circuit.

51:50

You did say, be fair Chris Chris, you said.

51:52

I don't write him him yet when

51:54

he was when he was four nil down. So we'll

51:56

see we'll see they're off stage for a

51:59

a little break at the moment,

52:01

but 4 -1 it is now, Steven Bunty.

52:03

Thank you so much, James. Right, Andrew,

52:05

how are you? Andrew.

52:08

It's happening to you, of you.

52:11

Oh, Andrew, there's been a goal,

52:13

and Sunderland! Sunderland

52:16

won, Sheffield United nil

52:18

after missing a penalty.

52:20

Sheffield United go behind.

52:22

Mistake by Jack Robinson.

52:24

Put in Mayenda, Mayenda

52:26

springing clear and slotting

52:28

pass Michael Cooper. Sunderland

52:30

won, Sheffield United nil.

52:32

Thank you so much.

52:35

Production's been a good new year, because

52:37

I think. Good new year. So

52:39

that was Andrew, who you were just

52:41

really excited about, that Sunderland goal.

52:43

He's obviously a big Sunderland fan. Andrew,

52:45

were you cheering when that went

52:47

in? Well, we play him on in

52:49

the FA Cup in a bit

52:51

of a week's time, don't we? I

52:53

was too late when we... You're

52:56

a Stoke City fan, yes. a Yeah,

52:58

because around the other day, after we'd

53:00

sacked Narciss Powack, I was a

53:02

bit down the dumps, Link. I wouldn't

53:04

have anybody... I think you asked

53:06

question. we'd I sacked think we did talk

53:08

about that, so I wanted an

53:10

experienced manager. I think we probably got

53:12

the best man we could get,

53:14

think, from all the available, I would

53:16

suggest. And

53:18

I think it's a central appointment.

53:20

you notice, he's referred to as

53:22

the football manager, as well, rather

53:24

than coach, head coach. So all

53:26

I suggest that maybe that John

53:28

Coates is a bit more influenced

53:30

on this one than John Waters,

53:33

maybe. So I'm

53:35

hoping that when Valk Robbins told

53:37

me, I said that I want

53:39

more control of the football side.

53:41

So John fingers crossed, that's good

53:43

news for us. It's the new

53:45

term, a head coach or a

53:47

manager. So I'd regard myself as

53:49

a manager, who can coach and

53:51

a head coach, or what's a

53:53

head coach? Well, you're just patting

53:55

yourself on the back there. No,

53:57

but I'm a manager, so it's

53:59

for other people. the judge out Rob the terminology

54:02

now is a coach coach manager surely

54:04

the hardest thing thing Chris look to this

54:06

of of getting the best out

54:08

of of players is man management seen players

54:10

the hardest job man management

54:13

so you are a manager so

54:15

you are a manager What is a head

54:17

coach? what is a head coach what is a head coach

54:19

yeah I think he's I think I reckon I reckon

54:21

he's got he wants more control wants more

54:23

control of the football I think

54:25

I think, he was more were

54:27

approaching, the football inside I I'm guessing we were

54:29

guessing we were trying to

54:31

have idea idea of a football

54:34

director, then the head coach working on head

54:36

coach didn't quite work, That didn't quite

54:38

work more experience need some more

54:40

experience in there. fits the bill. think

54:42

And you can see fits the bill I you

54:44

could see problem was, I think, with the the

54:46

problem was I think with I think, maybe it

54:48

was situation I think. things too much for

54:50

him. Because you much for we got a

54:53

couple a couple of good

54:55

results recently recently, recently, through today, we

54:57

beat Sundland, one nail. under Ryan Shorecross

54:59

he Cross things simpler

55:02

for him we were more on

55:04

the front the rather than trying to

55:06

maintain possession. trying to together with

55:08

him and crowd together with him and

55:10

side. we think we a

55:12

like better side I didn't think we

55:14

looked like it where a as

55:17

we side be looked to

55:19

be fair under And so,

55:21

recently and so I think it a

55:23

bit simpler for them. I'm

55:25

just saying. him and just saying push forward, try

55:28

to to when they're in defence and then

55:30

we've got the results, go a couple results, I

55:32

mean a really got the results got a

55:34

couple Burnley, I mean it a good

55:36

draw there and we probably... get yeah brilliant, thank you so

55:38

much for the call. So Chris, that's an interesting question, so if

55:40

you went Thank you so much not going

55:42

to, would you That's an interesting I mean, you

55:44

if you went back know, I'm you're

55:46

not gonna I'm you could I'm, I'm

55:48

don't know I'm, I'm, you know, mean, I'm, I'm

55:50

you know I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm, I'm,

55:52

you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, is our

55:55

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I Does it actually matter?

55:57

What would you call are you matter? getting

55:59

so so fixated by that? Are you saying a

56:01

head coach, a head coach, what

56:03

isn't allowed to manage players? Yeah,

56:05

yeah, but it's bringing a manager.

56:07

Whoever takes charge of the first

56:09

team is a manager. Well not

56:11

if they call the head coach

56:13

they're not. Okay, why be your

56:16

head coach then? So do you

56:18

need your pro license, your A

56:20

license to be head coach? Well,

56:22

I don't know, but it's the

56:24

hardest thing in the world is

56:26

managing players. Why are you getting

56:28

so fixated? I don't really know.

56:30

It's looking after a group of

56:32

players. Why are you so angry

56:34

about it? What does it make

56:36

you angry? Is that statistical? So

56:39

you are, so you have to

56:41

be called the manager, first team

56:43

manager, Robbie Savage. No I don't,

56:45

I'm the gaffer. Yeah, but that

56:47

is your title. The manager, yeah,

56:49

I'm the manager, because I managed

56:51

that whole page. So would you

56:53

be so, so for example, if

56:55

you, uh, you drove up to

56:57

Macclesfield into the car park and

57:00

it said head coach, you'd be

57:02

offended by that, would you, would

57:04

you? Because I'm not the head

57:06

coach, I'm not the best coach.

57:08

No, but that would offend you

57:10

if you saw head coach. Because

57:12

they wouldn't do it, because whoever

57:14

put it up. Oh, there's a

57:16

bit another goal, that's Sunderland! Gustavo

57:18

Hama has equalised for Sheffield United.

57:20

He had one bite at the

57:23

cherry shooting into the near post.

57:25

The goalkeeper Paterson repelled it. Sheffield

57:27

United kept it alive. It came

57:29

back to Hama and his fist

57:31

shot across the box has gone

57:33

into the net via somebody close

57:35

to the goal. Hama's goal it's

57:37

one one. Thank you so much.

57:39

And every department of the members

57:41

of the department, you know, the

57:44

head coach, the head coach of...

57:46

What? If the title of the

57:48

head coach, who cares? Let's put

57:50

it out there, are there, you

57:52

know, people around the country who

57:54

would rather be called a head

57:56

coach than a manager? Who cares?

57:58

Oh, 8-2-5, 9-9-6-3. At

58:00

the moment, Riven, are you far

58:02

too easy to score against? I

58:05

think, yes, I think so, but

58:07

we have some situations, clear situation,

58:09

you cannot score and that makes

58:12

the difference, but if you look

58:14

to all the games, that is

58:16

a clear point. And looking at

58:18

the table at the motor room,

58:21

it doesn't look at all pretty,

58:23

as you get the closest to

58:25

the relegation zone. Do you feel

58:27

as though it might be a

58:30

battle to avoid the drop that's

58:32

going to unfold in the second

58:34

half of the season? I think

58:36

it's a possibility, and we have

58:39

to be clear with our fans,

58:41

so we have to change something.

58:43

And that this is, it will

58:45

be really hard on everybody, can

58:48

make us stronger, or... and we

58:50

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privacy notice. It was one all

59:06

last time at the stage of

59:08

the day of the July. Has

59:10

there been a change in the

59:13

score line, Adam? There has its

59:15

two won to Sunderland, Wilson Isadour

59:17

scoring the goal as they look

59:19

for another one. Cross the ball

59:22

in and it's cleared away. It

59:24

was one back in midfield by

59:26

Sunderland, the Sheffield United, let go

59:28

of a sloppy bit of possession

59:31

in midfield. It was work left.

59:33

Isadour B. Ackman Hodges for pace

59:35

and scored with a fine right

59:37

foot finish. Sunderland two. Sheffield United

59:40

One. Thank you. Adam, what a

59:42

big win for Middlesbrough, a whole

59:44

late goal. What a win-miles, how

59:47

are you, happy new year mate?

59:49

Oh wow, yeah, what a game,

59:51

what a win. Yeah, the perfect

59:53

way to start off 2025. Late

59:56

winner. Oh, we're knocking

59:58

on the door

1:00:00

all game, testing their key for

1:00:02

all the time then, yeah, was just just,

1:00:04

yeah, to Yeah, to get late especially Alex

1:00:06

Gilbert, who was a player who he

1:00:08

never really never in the first a chance in the

1:00:10

doing so well in his position, is doing

1:00:12

so to see him position. But with the

1:00:14

fans in the end and like celebrate with the in

1:00:16

the in the end, and the club just Johnny

1:00:19

Housing to witness as a borough fan with

1:00:21

the fans, and looking upwards from here here. Johnny Houghton,

1:00:23

and what a career he's had hasn't

1:00:25

he he? And what about this season then

1:00:27

because Michael Carrick got a lot of

1:00:29

plaudits last season but you didn't you

1:00:31

didn't get in the playoffs but this

1:00:33

season do do you think the team

1:00:35

is stronger to make that challenge to

1:00:37

make that challenge? Miles? Absolutely,

1:00:39

absolutely. Why? Because we have

1:00:42

got it. we have got it, we've

1:00:44

seen many glimpses of it this

1:00:46

season we've 100% the got the right

1:00:48

materials to go up this season. the

1:00:50

But the main problem is inconsistency

1:00:52

and of of tactics. So I went

1:00:54

to the I went in we drew

1:00:56

free away game with root for you all and

1:00:58

like we were the worst team in the

1:01:00

league. We just the exposed in that.

1:01:02

really exposed and the weak teams in

1:01:04

the like all the weak teams in the silly points, lose or

1:01:06

one of the of teams around us but never

1:01:09

the top three, one of be beaten. We

1:01:11

always seem to perform well, that's what I

1:01:13

mean by inconsistency. beaten. We we can find

1:01:15

that consistency of beating teams every single week

1:01:17

and hopefully get a comfortable play from

1:01:19

the playoffs and hopefully challenge for promotion at

1:01:21

the end of the day, because that's

1:01:23

a goal, isn't it? at the end of the

1:01:25

day because you so much

1:01:28

it? Okay, Miles, thank you so Christopher.

1:01:30

for the call I tell you. tell you

1:01:32

what. I'll tell you what. Did, da, da,

1:01:34

da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,

1:01:36

da, da, oh, back in it it!

1:01:38

Oh you can hear him singing Rob, can't you?

1:01:40

Peter Peter right. Peter right. There you go, there you

1:01:42

go. You called it go, you you

1:01:44

go You called it Chris The

1:01:46

should be really happy back in

1:01:49

it. Oh back in he's never

1:01:51

happy to sets to two

1:01:53

to now. Remember, remember Bunting was sets

1:01:55

sets to was a set was

1:01:57

a set away from making

1:01:59

A ever semi-final. here at Ali Pali the

1:02:01

crowd all of a sudden have woken

1:02:03

up so seemingly two has Peter right

1:02:05

an unbelievable 133 check out there to

1:02:08

take that six set we're into a

1:02:10

seventh and you just never know the

1:02:12

man with the Mohawk looking very very

1:02:14

good at the moment has bunting is

1:02:16

his hand starting to shake because my

1:02:19

hand would start to shake it's a

1:02:21

look it's a bit more red he's

1:02:23

sort of matching the floor of his

1:02:25

shirt now But yeah, that's the only

1:02:27

visor from sign, Chris, that he's, you

1:02:30

know, just going a little bit. Well,

1:02:32

you wouldn't start to shake, Chris, would

1:02:34

it? Because you've been there so many

1:02:36

times. Yeah, but you wouldn't be up

1:02:38

there, wouldn't? Yeah, but I wouldn't write

1:02:41

Peter right off. I wouldn't be up

1:02:43

there, would you? Would you be would

1:02:45

you prefer to be Peter Wright's head

1:02:47

coach or would you be a manager?

1:02:49

Manager. There's not a head coach of

1:02:52

the dark, is there? Managers, aren't they

1:02:54

James? You're with me James, aren't you?

1:02:56

I'm not getting involved in that one.

1:02:58

That's a real head scratch for me.

1:03:00

Sorry, I like you both for the

1:03:03

equal measure. Okay, thank you so much

1:03:05

James. Start, starts players, don't get coach

1:03:07

then. Is that what you saying? Tom,

1:03:09

how are you, Plymouth, fan? How are

1:03:11

you, happy new year, Thomas? Thanks, thanks

1:03:14

very much, Robbie, yeah. It's only been

1:03:16

four days since the last spoke to

1:03:18

you, so a lot can change in

1:03:20

those four days. Just equipment then, Tom,

1:03:22

are you looking for a new manager

1:03:25

or a new head coach? I think

1:03:27

we're looking for a new manager this

1:03:29

time, because it looks like our director

1:03:31

of football, New York Newsnip, is going

1:03:33

to be leaving, as part of managers

1:03:36

and head coaches. It seemed to work

1:03:38

for Sir Alex Ferguson, so it should

1:03:40

work for everyone. Is that your only

1:03:42

example? Sir Alex is a good example.

1:03:44

Exactly, exactly. The clock was a manager?

1:03:47

I just, I just think you two,

1:03:49

you know, you've... Croughs was a manager.

1:03:51

You're both reading too far into too

1:03:53

much into this. That's okay. That's okay.

1:03:55

So Wayne Rooney was a little bit

1:03:58

hard done by in the end, not

1:04:00

cut addressed. Yeah, I mean, when I

1:04:02

was talking to you guys a couple

1:04:04

of days ago, I thought three more

1:04:06

games would probably be fair. The board

1:04:09

thought differently and... maybe it was just

1:04:11

delaying the delaying the inevitable. So he's

1:04:13

gone now, you know, he, a really

1:04:15

gracious departure. There's rumours that he's, you

1:04:17

know, agreed to waive around a million

1:04:19

pounds in compensation, which is fantastic. And,

1:04:22

you know, we all wanted it to

1:04:24

work out as plume of fans and

1:04:26

it didn't. But, you know, that's football

1:04:28

at the end of the day. A

1:04:30

couple of poor appointments this year, but

1:04:33

we're all ready to move on and,

1:04:35

and, you know, A decent point today,

1:04:37

the atmosphere was rocking at home park

1:04:39

today, a fantastic team goal for the

1:04:41

equaliser and then a bit of luck

1:04:44

at the end to make it too

1:04:46

all. But yeah, I think we're hopefully

1:04:48

excited about what 2025 can hold and

1:04:50

it's looking like it's going to be

1:04:52

Stephen Schumacher which I think the majority

1:04:55

of the fans would welcome. Obviously came

1:04:57

in as assistant to Ryan Low and

1:04:59

and then when Ryan Low left he

1:05:01

took on the mantle and you know

1:05:03

led us to the league one title

1:05:06

you know if you think of those

1:05:08

two teams behind us it should be

1:05:10

Sheffield Wednesday that's not that's not a

1:05:12

bad job and yeah we'd be really

1:05:14

excited to have him come in and

1:05:17

should he go back though they say

1:05:19

never go back don't know they say

1:05:21

especially managers don't ever go back. Yeah,

1:05:23

they do say that, but I think

1:05:25

we're gonna, you know, we've got, we

1:05:28

should have a couple of fresh signings

1:05:30

in January. Cicoco came back today, our

1:05:32

left winger, he was good for the

1:05:34

10-50 minutes he was on. And you

1:05:36

know, he knows a lot of these

1:05:39

players as well. I think when Paul

1:05:41

Starr, it came back a long, long

1:05:43

time ago, it was a completely different

1:05:45

squad that he inherited from what he

1:05:47

left on. So, so, Yep, I'm all

1:05:50

for Stephen Schumacher and I don't think

1:05:52

there's a wealth of championship managers out

1:05:54

there as well. So I think it

1:05:56

would be a great... appointment and it

1:05:58

would be quite would be quite

1:06:01

ironic if he if he

1:06:03

take on the job

1:06:05

and and Saturday. on Saturday

1:06:07

in eight months, he'd have had three Argyll in charge

1:06:09

of Stoke twice and then in charge of

1:06:12

R -Gull once, which would be quite something.

1:06:14

in charge of Argyll you so

1:06:16

much for quite something. Thank you

1:06:18

so much for the cold the

1:06:20

festive it's been the I wonder

1:06:22

if I wonder for the many

1:06:24

for the simulation game. And

1:06:33

Shazuz for the heavy touch, Dam's guard was in,

1:06:35

down, down, free kick given by Peter that, that, whether

1:06:37

there an arm arm caught him, him,

1:06:39

and referee is saying he's gone

1:06:41

down he's gone his is... his head or

1:06:43

his face. stuff like this like this

1:06:45

really frustrates me you know I know know

1:06:47

he's got a little bit

1:06:49

of a clip maybe around the the

1:06:51

face end of end of the hand,

1:06:53

not but it's not a bad

1:06:55

one at all. He's gone

1:06:57

down been hit with his ledge hammer it's such

1:06:59

a good player. doesn't need need to

1:07:02

do that. up He'll up in a

1:07:04

second, he's old come on, he'll have a little

1:07:06

little him, around he'll put I I don't even know

1:07:08

if know the they use the magic sponge anymore, but he give

1:07:10

him a little bit of something, a little bit

1:07:12

be back up and be fine. Just be back

1:07:14

up with the he'll be fine just go up and

1:07:16

get on with the game. I think Netto thinks he's

1:07:19

foul. Morsi has got them over the halfway line and then the referee

1:07:21

has pulled it back and that will upset. He's been conned. looks

1:07:23

like Neto's the referee. the referee. And then there's

1:07:25

an off the ball incident with

1:07:27

Kukere incident with Kukere with his and as well.

1:07:29

Oh, they're all falling over now. its

1:07:31

going down. as well. Oh, The referee needs

1:07:33

eyes in the back of his head

1:07:35

at the moment. He's going to need

1:07:37

some help from his assistant needs eyes in the

1:07:39

Chris Sutton in his simulation game

1:07:41

on 6 He's on a Sunday night. He's

1:07:44

got plenty of material this week from

1:07:46

this game alone. Just in that

1:07:48

one. minute you've got in his simulation

1:07:50

game on 6-0-6 on a Sunday

1:07:52

night, it's got you what, I

1:07:54

thought Liam this week. Had a little dive for

1:07:56

the penalty as well, as well don't know

1:07:58

whether you saw all that. that Nauti Nato,

1:08:00

but as it's a festive simulation

1:08:02

game, I'm gonna say Gabriel Jesus,

1:08:04

I mean, Andy reading commentary, a

1:08:06

bit of a mystic Meg, said

1:08:08

he'd go down, he'd get straight

1:08:11

back up, went down like he

1:08:13

got hit with a sledgehammer, I

1:08:15

agree with that, Arsenal, two wins

1:08:17

today, won against Brentford and three

1:08:19

points, Gabriel Jesus, you won the

1:08:21

game, you don't want to win,

1:08:23

not the first time you've won

1:08:25

it, but you're much better than

1:08:27

that you're much better than that

1:08:29

little spell of the season, spell

1:08:31

of the season, spell of the

1:08:33

season, of the season, of the

1:08:35

season, of the season, the season,

1:08:38

the season, the season, the season,

1:08:40

the season, spell of the season,

1:08:42

of the season, season, the season,

1:08:44

the season, the season, season, the

1:08:46

season, the season, the season, the

1:08:48

season, spell of the season, of

1:08:50

the season, the season, of the

1:08:52

season, of the season, the season,

1:08:54

the season, season, season, But just

1:08:56

stay on your feet. Don't go

1:08:58

down on that again. Your eyes

1:09:00

on the simulators over the next

1:09:02

few weeks. Simulated? Simulated? Is that

1:09:05

you call them? What's you call

1:09:07

them? Simulation? What of the people

1:09:09

doing though? Simulators? Good. Yeah, it's

1:09:11

all like that, don't you? Half-time

1:09:13

at the stadium of light, Adam

1:09:15

Cotier. Sunderland 2, Sheffield United won

1:09:17

here. Incident pack riddled with mistakes.

1:09:19

Sheffield United missed a penalty. Keep

1:09:21

a more having his efforts saved

1:09:23

by Anthony Patterson after he'd had

1:09:25

his shirt pulled by Luko 9.

1:09:27

That was early on. And a

1:09:29

mistake by Jack Robinson, a slice

1:09:32

clearance, allowed Eliza Mayenda to break

1:09:34

clear and score. Gustav O'Hama then

1:09:36

shot across goal for his shot

1:09:38

to be turned in by Luko

1:09:40

9 for an own goal before

1:09:42

Isador restored Sunderland's lead with a

1:09:44

fine individual goal before the break.

1:09:46

Sunderland 2. Sheffield United One. Is

1:09:48

this the chance, James, Greg at

1:09:50

the doubt? Oh, it could well

1:09:52

be, Robin, a couple of moments'

1:09:54

time. Peter Wright needs to check

1:09:56

out from 150 to keep himself

1:09:59

in the match. He's thrown one

1:10:01

triple 20. Let's see if he

1:10:03

can throw another. This will be

1:10:05

quite something, no, he can't. So,

1:10:07

that is going to open the

1:10:09

door. Here at Alexandra Palace. Are

1:10:11

you ready? Well that first art

1:10:13

is a couple of inches high

1:10:15

of the wire. So is the

1:10:17

second. The third is low, so

1:10:19

maybe just maybe a chance for

1:10:21

Peter Wright to break the throw

1:10:23

of Stephen Bunting and keep himself

1:10:26

clinging on in this match. He

1:10:28

needs double tops, does right, the

1:10:30

first start is high, the second

1:10:32

attempt. No! Also high, raises the

1:10:34

wire. And three match darts missed

1:10:36

for Stephen Bunting. How many more

1:10:38

is he goes to do it?

1:10:40

He'll get it. Double ten. He's

1:10:42

shifted himself right to the right-hand

1:10:44

side of the hockey, the dartist

1:10:46

to the right-hand side of the

1:10:48

wire. The fifth match dart flies

1:10:51

in. With a long, he gives

1:10:53

a little soft embrace to Peter

1:10:55

Wright. What a double it was

1:10:57

in the end. Five sets to

1:10:59

two it finished. Despite little scare,

1:11:01

we're going to see the bullet.

1:11:03

Stephen Bunting in the semi-final of

1:11:05

the World Arts Championship here at

1:11:07

Alexandra Palace. Round of applause for

1:11:09

the crowd from Peter Wright. He

1:11:11

was not at the races today.

1:11:13

Too little too late for the

1:11:15

two-time champion. But Stephen Bunting will

1:11:18

meet the winner of Luke Littler

1:11:20

and Nathan Aspenor tomorrow evening. Thank

1:11:22

you so much. James Ryan. Let's

1:11:24

go to Ebs Arsenal fan. How

1:11:26

are you Ebs? Happy New Year.

1:11:28

Happy New Year. Happy New Year

1:11:30

to Legend. And happy New Year,

1:11:32

Chris. And he didn't. So come

1:11:34

on then, you must be delighted

1:11:36

with that today's. First of all,

1:11:38

the victory, but have you got

1:11:40

enough? Do you need, do you

1:11:42

need to bring players in in

1:11:45

January? We do need players in.

1:11:47

We need quality wingers and equality

1:11:49

in number nine. Obviously, that's not

1:11:51

been a secret. But to get

1:11:53

Marcus Flashford, no way. He can

1:11:55

stay out. if the team are

1:11:57

other players on performing it. other

1:11:59

clubs, they'll come to

1:12:01

ask them and start performing. No, we're

1:12:03

our own team, don't need players don't need

1:12:05

players like who will who will upset

1:12:08

the room. And you know, it shouldn't even

1:12:10

be in the question to shouldn't even be in

1:12:12

the I'm to be honest with you, I'm

1:12:14

quite surprised a question a question raised raised

1:12:16

and asked. we Why would we want Marcus

1:12:18

Rashford? Rob. We've got Martin Ellie, we've

1:12:20

got trussard on got left. on the play

1:12:22

on the right, play on the play through the can't play

1:12:24

through the middle. position the only position

1:12:26

he can can on the on the left. and who

1:12:28

are you you going to drop? to can't drop

1:12:30

You can't drop Trossard's already Endy and Trotzard's

1:12:33

already getting... Squads, Squads, win leagues. Who's you going

1:12:35

to drop? Mark Rashford. We They do,

1:12:37

in they do. Strength and

1:12:39

depth talk about all

1:12:41

the and time. So you

1:12:43

look at win leagues? They do. They do.

1:12:45

and Marcus Rashford has

1:12:47

the capability all scoring lots

1:12:49

of goals, at if, you

1:12:51

know, he can perform. Marcus

1:12:53

Rashford will score goals for a

1:12:55

team team again. Fact. He will, but

1:12:57

he probably will. He's in my

1:12:59

view, and in many of my Arsenal my

1:13:02

view and in many of my,

1:13:04

um, Standard. He is

1:13:06

not Arsenal Standard. He is not

1:13:08

Arsenal Standard. He might He might

1:13:10

perform three or four times in

1:13:12

a season a score you score you ten

1:13:14

goals, but the baggage that that

1:13:17

comes with him... It's Harvard. So were you one

1:13:19

of the fans? the had lots of

1:13:21

fans when Havertz of fans was an asshole,

1:13:23

standard he is now. performed. He was now.

1:13:25

I wanted to have it. I don't know.

1:13:27

You are going to to say

1:13:29

that, aren't you? No, no. be be

1:13:31

be saying you didn't want want

1:13:34

Were you one of the

1:13:36

were you one of the were

1:13:38

when of was fans saying beginning? Oh, was

1:13:40

losing the beginning? Oh, at the

1:13:42

start? no. So was he Arsenal

1:13:44

standing at the start?

1:13:46

Well, Artetta. Yeah. A lot of fans on

1:13:48

this show wouldn't it

1:13:50

are fans on this show, wanted

1:13:53

all of us. out. I mean, I don't know

1:13:55

if it was a moral... I wanted our

1:13:57

tetra to replace Venga. And we

1:13:59

got... The Scrooge from Spain who's

1:14:01

apparently doing so well at Man's

1:14:03

Aston Miller now I mean, you

1:14:06

know the wheels are coming off

1:14:08

that Aston Miller aren't they? Okay,

1:14:10

you look at our Teta season

1:14:12

by season there's been an improvement

1:14:14

either in the training ground in

1:14:16

the squad in the team in

1:14:18

the club There's been an improvement

1:14:20

season on season. Okay, fair enough

1:14:22

last two seasons. We've we've been

1:14:24

close. Well Man City or Man

1:14:27

City, you know Liverpool was such

1:14:29

a great team or only stopped

1:14:31

them once Okay We, I mean,

1:14:33

my nephew, who I live next

1:14:35

door to, is a hardcore Tottenham

1:14:37

fan. And we watched a match

1:14:39

together and he said, what have

1:14:41

you won in the last... Fair

1:14:43

enough, we haven't won much. But

1:14:45

the point being, is that we're

1:14:47

building us up, we've got an

1:14:50

identity. Yeah, you like, you like

1:14:52

stalk on a choose tonight at

1:14:54

times? Oh, come on. Yeah, that's

1:14:56

the hate talk, isn't it? Yeah.

1:14:58

That's a hate talk. and we've

1:15:00

got two goals from corners. So

1:15:02

what? That's part of football. That's

1:15:04

correct. Correct. Correct. Correct. Yep. Still

1:15:06

there? Oh, it was just gone.

1:15:08

Oh, it was just great. Where's

1:15:11

it? It's gone. Wow, sorry, Ebbs.

1:15:13

Let's go to Michael's a Dundee

1:15:15

fan. You've got Celtic ridges? And

1:15:17

then yours is kicking off, I

1:15:19

think, is it a half past

1:15:21

five kickoff I think? Five thirty

1:15:23

tomorrow, that's exactly right, yeah, ours

1:15:25

is the big one obviously in

1:15:27

Scotland. So come on then, Dundee

1:15:29

last season, exceeded expectation, six place

1:15:32

finish, what are you smelling this

1:15:34

season? Tony Dockard, he's done a

1:15:36

good job, but Dundee united are

1:15:38

going well, aren't they? Yeah, Tony

1:15:40

Duckett has done a fantastic job

1:15:42

with the resources he has. We've

1:15:44

been really unlucky this past week

1:15:46

while. We've got something like... I

1:15:48

think it's seven defenders, I've injured

1:15:50

at the moment. I mean, we

1:15:52

managed to win in our last

1:15:55

game against St. Mirren there, with

1:15:57

two defenders coming off actually in

1:15:59

the game in the 22nd minute

1:16:01

and an unrelated incident, or unrelated

1:16:03

incidents, quite unbelievable. But, you know,

1:16:05

the strength of the team, the

1:16:07

kind of, it's a fairly youthful

1:16:09

team. He believes in, you know,

1:16:11

letting boys have a chance. And

1:16:13

I think that's making a difference.

1:16:16

As long as he has a

1:16:18

good, you know. If the squad

1:16:20

basically are given a chance and

1:16:22

the players believe that they've got

1:16:24

a chance to actually show what

1:16:26

they can do and succeed at

1:16:28

what they can do, then that's

1:16:30

all we can hope for. And

1:16:32

that was the reason for my

1:16:34

call. I wanted to say that

1:16:37

I don't know if other football

1:16:39

fans get this in their stadiums,

1:16:41

but something I've noticed recently, the

1:16:43

world seems to becoming more polarized.

1:16:45

people can be really quick to

1:16:47

jump on the back of the

1:16:49

players or jump on the back

1:16:51

of the manager if things aren't

1:16:53

going well you know on the

1:16:55

pitch and for me I'm like

1:16:58

well hang on a minute we're

1:17:00

supposed to be supporters you're supposed

1:17:02

to support your team through thick

1:17:04

and thin if something's not going

1:17:06

well get on the back of

1:17:08

the players isn't going to help

1:17:10

them this young you know the

1:17:12

young squad we've got just now

1:17:14

they're doing their best so my

1:17:16

ask tomorrow in the Dundee make

1:17:18

sure we get behind our team

1:17:21

make sure we support our team

1:17:23

and give them a really good

1:17:25

chance of succeeding because they're up

1:17:27

against it they've got a lot

1:17:29

of injuries I think that's I

1:17:31

think it's a great point Michael

1:17:33

made up and also Dundee where

1:17:35

that where they've come from there

1:17:37

sort of recent history got themselves

1:17:39

back up top six finish did

1:17:42

unbelievably well and Dundee united this

1:17:44

is that's gonna be a cracker

1:17:46

mmm and let's go to the

1:17:48

final call paddy you got about

1:17:50

30 seconds paddy Yeah,

1:17:52

hello man. I originally rang

1:17:54

about the Arsenal supporter that

1:17:57

was talking about Rashford. That's

1:17:59

an absolute... Well I do think

1:18:01

that because we've He only

1:18:03

turns up players in every

1:18:05

position. What I was asked to talk

1:18:08

was asked to talk about bit of I'm

1:18:10

a little don't I don't think

1:18:13

we will lose another game. the the

1:18:15

rest of the season. Oh wow

1:18:17

champions then, do you be

1:18:19

champions then? Well I do think

1:18:21

I do think that we've got

1:18:23

so many players. players in every

1:18:25

position that are just... You You

1:18:28

know, could we out the turn

1:18:30

out the would put her whole and

1:18:32

she it. Paddy, thank you so it. A

1:18:34

look for thank you so

1:18:36

much for the call game. All

1:18:38

to lose another game And

1:18:41

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1:18:43

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