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Push Kim.
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Hello listeners. If you've been enjoying our coverage
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of the trial of Sam Bankman Freed so far and
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are looking to dive even deeper into Sam's
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past, you should take a listen to Wondery in Bloomberg's
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podcast Spellcaster, the
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Fall of Sam Bankman Freed. His
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fall from grace represents one of the most spectacular
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failures of corporate controls in American
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history. Here interviews with Sam
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Bankman Freed himself and his former girlfriend
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and business partner, Caroline Ellison, who
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later admitted something had gone very
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wrong inside their operation. From
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Bloomberg and Wondery comes Spelcaster, hosted
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by Bloomberg reporter Hannah Miller, now
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with an all new bonus episode that takes you
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inside the courtroom at Sam Bankman Fried's
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trial, including expert analysis,
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what to watch for, and more behind
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the scenes reporting. Here's
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a clip from Spelcaster. Follow
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Spellcaster on the Wondery app or
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wherever you get your podcasts.
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The Baja Maar Resort is a gargantuan
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hotel on a gorgeous stretch
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of Bahama's beach front. You
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enter by crossing a Roman style bridge
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over a landscaped lake where
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every night there's a glitzy fountain
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show with pulsing lights and extremely
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loud music. It's like the Bellagio
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on the Caribbean. Take
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In Climb checked into the Baha mar one
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afternoon in April of twenty twenty
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two.
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So you arrive and there's a fish
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tank behind the check and dusk.
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A big vertical tank filled with lionfish.
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To be more specific, there were signs
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for Cryptobahamas everywhere. It really
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felt like the whole island was kind of buzzing
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about this event.
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Tagan was a twenty nine year old crypto entrepreneur
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and influencer. She'd done a lot
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of these crypto conferences before, but
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she didn't know much about this one called
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Crypto Bahamas, other than that it was
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invite only and she'd agreed to speak
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the event.
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It almost had this dark fantasy Disneyland
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Vegas vibe to it, and
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it really felt surreal from the moment that I
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landed.
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She got her badge and was directed toward
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the VIP reception. She
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walked out on the hotel lawn to find a
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small gathering of people surrounded by
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cabanas and giant video screens.
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A local marching band played in the background.
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There was one big table. It was a long,
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rectangular table set for about sixty
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people, So we kind of cull us in the middle
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of that table and we all talked together.
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It was a three course meal, no caviat
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but definitely nice food.
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The guests took turns introducing themselves.
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There were a lot of the usual suspects
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hedge, fun guy, venture capital dude,
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crypto bro. Then a woman
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sat down at the table.
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She came with two guys and
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they were very nice. They apologized for being late to
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the dinner.
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Can recognize the woman right away. It
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was Katy Perry has an international
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pop superstar, Katy Perry. Then
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the guy next to her spoke of.
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He said, I got famous from
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my role playing legalist and Lord of the Rings,
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and it was actually Orlando Bloom.
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But for this crowd, Katy Perry
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and Orlando Bloom weren't the biggest
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celebrities there. The
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next morning, Michael Lewis, the
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world renowned business journalist, sat
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on stage with an awkward looking thirty
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year old guy with a mop of curly
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hair, wearing shorts and a
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baggy T shirt.
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Three years ago, nobody knew who you were, and
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now you're sitting on the cover of magazines
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and you're a gazillionaire and you're.
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This was who people were here to see, the
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co founder and CEO of FTX,
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one of the world's largest crypto
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exchanges. He was a billionaire
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many times over, a prolific
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political donor, a boundary
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breaking philanthropist, and he does
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it all in just a few years.
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These are world This is your
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breaking land speed records, and
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I don't think people are really noticing what's
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happened, just how dramatic the
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revolution has become. There's a status
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of people that's going on in the financial world, and
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you're sitting right in the.
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Middle of it. Sam Bankman
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Freed.
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Yeah, I mean basically, And I think
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the way that sort of I approached it was
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like, what should the
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product be like?
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You know, Lewis has written some of the definitive
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business books of the past forty years,
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Moneyball, Liar's Poker, and The
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Big Short. He has spent
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a lifetime sorting businesses,
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good guys from the Charlatans, and
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on stage at least he sounded impressed
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by what Sam Bankman Freed had accomplished.
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And Sam didn't just sit with Michael Lewis.
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He was everywhere. He shared
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the stage with former President Bill Clinton
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and former British Prime Minister Tony
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Blair. He had an intimate heart
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to heart with Tom Brady, and
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then another with the quarterback's then wife,
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Giselle Bunschin, the Brazilian supermodel.
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Oh that's just done, you
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know, I mean, ultimately, the
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scale of impact you can have on
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the world is just really, really large.
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Sam was beyond awkward. His leg
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bounced wildly as he spoke, his
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eyes darted around the room, and.
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You know, that's I think what really sets
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it apart.
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His audience didn't seem to care. His
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awkwardness came off as a kind of charm
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like he was totally indifferent to what
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people thought about it, and they
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lapped it up, especially
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when he talked about his driving motivation
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doing good. Sam
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had promised to give all of his wealth away,
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all twenty six billion dollars
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of it.
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The Ftech Foundation's recent announcement
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to give up to one billion dollars this
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year alone to high impact chair parties
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show how Sam is transforming corporate
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governance and becoming the modern day CEO
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that the world needs today.
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We'll discuss on stage with Giselle.
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Salmon bailed a new ad showing him
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standing with his arms crossed with
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a calmly confident, even virtuous
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expression on his face. He wore
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a hoodie and shorts. The quote
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on his ad said, I'm in on crypto
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because I want to make the biggest global
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impact for good.
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Taigan Klein had never seen anything
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like it.
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I think a lot of people were kind of in awe.
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The crowd was captivated by Sam's
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good intentions, by the celebrities
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and world leaders he kept company
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with, and the sheer scale of
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his promises.
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And this is where I realized that it
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was kind of the Sam Show.
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The Sam Show. The spring
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of twenty twenty two, Crypto
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was booming and Sam Bankman Freed
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was the star. At one point,
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FTX said it was processing on average,
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twelve and a half billion dollars
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worth of transactions each day, and
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it was all Sam claimed in the name
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of one day giving his fortune away
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to save the world. Then,
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not long after his star turn in the
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Bahamas, The Sam Show
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began a very different season.
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Competitors and regulators began
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to circle Crypto prices
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were falling. Behind the scenes,
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Sam's closest advisors were
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abandoning him. At the same
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time, my colleagues at Bloomberg
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started poking at the myth of Sam
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Bankman freed, and we published
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stories about it. We weren't the only
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ones, but even we couldn't imagine
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the full scale of what was wrong inside
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Sam's empire. By
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year's end, FTX was bankrupt,
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eight billion dollars were missing, and
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Sam was in handcuffs. Investors,
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prosecutors, lawyers, and crypto
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fans were all left to figure
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out what was real and what
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wasn't.
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