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it when the schedule allows and

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the schedule to talk about it when the it. So

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and the was for it. So a busy

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year. busy year for Magic Cards. busy.

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In fact, we didn't

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the tape. the Let us

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know in the comments below in

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I am. There's no way! I am.

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There's was a busy year. We

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a busy year. We had five main

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sets, Six? Six? Six?

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I think. Counting Wheeler? We

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had Murders of Karlov

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Manor. We had Assassin's Creed. no, no,

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no, no, just the the Not

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the not the product. Thunder Junction.

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Oh, you just want the ma...

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Yeah, then we'll get to

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the other stuff after. Thunder Junction,

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Yeah, then we'll get to the other stuff after. Thunder Junction.

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Yeah, modern Horizons, three. Foundations. So that's

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six sets. So Then six sets. Then we

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had like. This is not even, not,

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the Lord of the Rings was last

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year. Was Dr. Who the first one

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this year? No. Fallout? We had Fallout

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this year. So, Fallout, Assassin's Creed, Ravnica

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Clue? Yeah. Commander product for basically every

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set. Yeah. And Foundation's jumpstart. Yeah. It

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actually, like some bangers in all of

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this too. Yeah, that's the problem. I

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don't know. We. See, this is why

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I wanted to slide in the Assassin's

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Creed or whatever, because like, it really

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doesn't matter. It's all the same, for

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Canlander players, realistically, it's all the same

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thing, if anything. The supplemental product is

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typically product not going directly into standard,

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which means the overall card quality is

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higher, which then means that like, but

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the set is smaller. Sure. So the

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percentage of cars that end up getting

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in is about the same. Interesting. Yeah,

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it's a lot of magic. Some of

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it some of it good. So I

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want to throw a low ball at

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first, which I think I'm gonna call

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this probably the biggest splash of any

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product in 2024, the surveillance, which I

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think maybe started a little bit, I

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don't wanna say modest. I think we

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looked at that we thought this is

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gonna be pretty good, but like, every

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deck is playing them now, which is

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wild. Yeah. I feel like. whenever I

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retell my evaluation of those cards, it

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started off being like, these are pretty

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good, but you might not play them

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everywhere. Like, you'd want to play them,

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like, the, you know, the blue-white one

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you could play because it's another island

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for, like, a blue-white X deck or

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whatever for Mystic Sanctuary. Well, I guess

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the blue-black one, you probably want to

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reanimate or two. The green one, I

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mean, finding forest off your wood elves

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is pretty good. I can't, I can't,

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I came out quick in saying, Scape-Shift

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decks are going to play the mountains.

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That was, that was true. That was

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true. That was true. Yeah, that was

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true. Yeah, because, because, because, because, because,

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because, because, because when, because when, when,

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when, when, when, we've, we've, we've had,

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we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, we've,

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we've, we've, we've, we've, we've, Land type

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cards recently, right? Like scapes shift has

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been eating well with the, it was

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the cycle land, scapes, was like, okay,

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maybe they're a little bit slow, but

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I like these and the triumphs and

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everyone loved the triumphs and scapes, just

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like great another mountain. And then I

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think when we saw the surveillance, we

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kind of treated them the same way.

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You're like, oh, they're gonna be a

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little bit slow, they're gonna provide some

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utility, but they're not gonna change that

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much, but they're not gonna change that

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much. Especially in a hundred card singleton.

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Yeah. Like, and arguably people, I'm on

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the camp that I think people should

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be playing more of them. Like, even

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off-color splashes? I wouldn't be surprised, like,

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I don't have the data, but I

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wouldn't be surprised if every month since

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Murders or Karlov Manor, you know, was

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released, the percentage of decks at tournaments.

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playing like in the number of surveillance

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versus other cars has just been slowly

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creeping up even into December. I wouldn't

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be spressed. I don't think off-color for

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every deck. I think there are some

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exceptions where you might want to play

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an off-colored one, who knows. But more

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so like decks, like there are blue,

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three-color blue decks that might be on

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the two islands because they want their

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mystic sanctuary and they want their blue

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man on. And they're like, I'm not

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going to play elegant parlor or shadowy

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backstreet or whatever. And then they realize

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like, oh, I should just, I should

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just play this. Yeah, you go to

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crack one fetchland and one game and

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you're like, I don't have this in

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my deck. Mm-hmm. Why don't I have

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this in the deck? Yeah. Yeah. This

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is a, this is an odd one

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and I wonder how far this is

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going to go, but it's not unusual

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for decks to splash like an O.G

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dual land for deathright activation. You know,

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but what if the bayou. gets cut

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for is it shadowy back street is

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that the that's underground mortuary is the

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black green one right like is that

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just more correct because how often do

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you need it to be untapped again

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sometimes you do but right well for

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that case I think for most of

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them the answer is yes they just

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wanted untapped oh you know Where

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I want more

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players to play them

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are these three three

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colored decks, you know,

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making sure that

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they have all three

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I don't know, I heard a gruel

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monsters pilot don't know I

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heard a playing pilot complain about

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playing can't complain I'm like that. Come

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really? can't complain about that this commercial

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like I just have this commercial district

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and it comes up tapped. I'm like, like you

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telling me you don't want to have a are

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you telling me you don't want to

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have a commercial deck? Because going into going into

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reviewing these the the sort of place

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where I thought Yeah, commercial rest of district

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will get played played in team or but it

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won't get played in cruel prowess in gruel prowess

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or gruel then after a few months, I

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was like, oh, yeah months, I was like, oh yeah,

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all the on -color ones of these

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always and then sometimes play more, but

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we got we went into it thinking these

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are triumphs. You're gonna wanna play them

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in decks that have long game

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plans and are interested in in like,

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card gets more value the later

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the game goes goes. then it turned

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out. out. is more is more

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simple than that and that to the

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triumphs is actually like kind of

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a mind -trap, right? kind of sort of

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serving different purposes. they occupy serving different purposes.

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They that they a play tapped and

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they that they do exchange themselves in

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a way for a card, but

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like in a way include them

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for different reasons. you include them for

7:17

different reasons anything, they kind of occupy,

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of occupy like a... is going to be

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a bit of a weird one,

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like a creature weird space. a creature land

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don't really Right? We don't We don't

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see We don't see creature I mean, Well, I

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mean, I'm all, I'm just, up that sleep up

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that creeping tar pit or that's... Yeah. Like but

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you can't put it in too

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much can't put Yeah, too much. not

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the other two. Not while. two, not

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in a I've been putting In red green,

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I've been putting raging raging... Red green

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raging ravine. Is it raging ravine? That's the one that's

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you put a and you put a

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time plus one counter ravine I've know

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the a raging ravine in you know you

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want about deck Say what you want

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about colonnade, but it kill a Minsken

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boot time with zero No, Colin is

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still relevant. I'm hoping that we're gonna

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see surged sometime at some point attack

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with that cottage and make a food

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token. Oh yeah, the cottage is good.

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Cottage actually has done a lot of

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work in games. Sorry, no, restless cottage

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has been fantastic. But these, they, where

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we were right is that these cards,

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these surveillance take up the same few

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spots in your deck that you can

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allocate to a tapland. And I think

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because. Similarly, triumphs just kept getting more

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popular after streets of Nucapana came out

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and after a quarry it came out,

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that it's felt like they had a

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really entrenched position as like, well, you

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want to play two triumphs in this

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deck and four triumphs in this deck,

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you know, because that'll make sure that

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your man is great and also that

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you've got gas throughout the game. And

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then throughout the year, we've seen the

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number of triumphs included in deck lists,

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go down and deck lists. which lands

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go on first, right? So, you know,

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like fetches, duels are at the top.

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They're kind of the auto includes. Then

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you have your Ravduels, and then there's

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a whole gulf that opens up, and

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it feels like now it immediately goes

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into surveillance. Like, I think the surveillance

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are fighting the Ravuels. Like, overbuddy lands,

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yeah, gravules, and it depends on how

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many colors you're going to, because like

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a four-color deck isn't necessarily going to

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play. 8 and 8 of all the

9:18

duels, right? Like, usually the original ones,

9:20

the Rav duels, that's when you start

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to trace. That's what I mean, right?

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That's when you get that flexibility or

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like a maybe a triome and stuff.

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Mm-hmm. I mean, I tend to like

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fast lands too. Like, the one that

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if you have three or less, I

9:35

always get those mex. The scars? Yeah,

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scars lands. So those are auto includes

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like I think those are auto includes

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for me is the like I get

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my fast lands like fetches O. G.

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Dules shock lands surveillance fast lands utility

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lands and then. I mean mean

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utility and and are

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kind of interchangeable,

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but like pips. but like

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so so okay, all

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kind of boils down

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I feel down. I like

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a philosophy here the best

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man a in the

10:07

formula, which I will

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I will take that

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that claim. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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I'm washed washed up

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knows it. I knows it. could still mean, sure

10:18

I could still go down to the shop

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and clean up a Monday night or

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whatever But that's always been the case, but

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I'm but from a manabase challenge. a man I'm

10:26

washed I'm I see these cool deck ideas

10:28

that people build folks in the community in

10:30

the or online And I'm like damn. This

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is a dope deck. They put in

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the reps. damn, at that a dope I'm like They

10:37

put it in the is. look at

10:39

that manabas. I'm my That is. And

10:41

yeah, my thought is that the format is sped

10:44

up, The the It's is sped

10:46

up, right? play out threats deck can

10:48

play out threats now like even

10:50

are very few decks, like even

10:52

the right? They They have Rogavan and Darcy

10:54

and whatnot. So it's every every deck is

10:56

playing cards And so the board. that

10:58

And so that you the idea

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that too of that, you don't

11:03

want to play Yep. many tapped

11:05

lands. stumble. You you don't want to

11:07

stumble. want to to stumble. Yeah. But I

11:09

think think that's looking at it the wrong

11:11

way. way. I think you should look at the

11:13

fact that the fact that faster, it

11:15

means that everything is everything is

11:17

pip dense. like very PIP specific I guess, I guess,

11:19

which means that you need to have the

11:21

right mana at the right time to

11:23

cast your cheap spells to deal deal with your

11:25

other opponent's things. And the tap lands

11:28

could be like, ooh, could be I had was

11:30

tap lands and I died. It's like, died.

11:32

probably like, well if you had untapped lands,

11:34

if it's that bad. if And so instead,

11:36

you just like if it's out your tap land.

11:39

you just on turn two is

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not as bad because we

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have 15 different lightning bolts

11:45

now we have 15 different lightning bolts now. You

11:47

know, know, we have in addition to addition

11:49

to your spell and your spell snare. Like just the

11:51

the other of mana cards that you

11:53

can have make the tap a lot

11:56

better, my opinion, not worse. worse. I think

11:58

that's think that's something that people aren't.

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really locking onto as much. It's like, yeah, it's

12:02

just play a tap land on turn one

12:04

or turn two and then go off. Like,

12:06

or just, you know, play it when it's

12:08

good. I will say a good friend of

12:10

mine who recently claimed to be the best

12:12

man of base builder in the format did

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drop a quote that is surprisingly simple and

12:16

yet also kind of profound. Play lands so

12:18

you can cast your spells. Is this Tyler?

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No, it's you. Oh, me? I said it?

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Yeah, yeah, I said it. Yeah, you said

12:24

that earlier this year. Remember when I did

12:26

the Loading Ready run patron pitch at the

12:28

beginning of this one? No, I don't. Like,

12:30

yeah, if you can cast, spells are so

12:32

good nowadays. If you can cast your spells,

12:34

you're probably winning the game. And like the

12:36

taplands can maybe say like, oh, I'm not

12:38

casting my spell, but I don't know. Magic's

12:40

pretty like, like, what's where I'm looking for

12:42

fun game. It is a fun game, but

12:44

it's just like, yeah, sometimes that does happen.

12:46

I don't know what to tell you. It's

12:48

very, it's very, it's their percentages on. I

12:50

really liked Wheeler's order of if you want

12:52

to go back and listen to it, write

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it down in the comments or whatever, order

12:56

of how. he approaches like building a man-based

12:58

really clean. Mine is similar but I want

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to let you know so I do fetches

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and duels that I'm going to play and

13:04

then I grab any utility lands that I

13:06

know I want to play in this deck

13:08

and any other sometimes I'm like I'm definitely

13:10

playing the feta heath any any other duels

13:12

that aren't the original duels and then I

13:14

decide how many basics I'm willing to play.

13:16

I include those basics, and then I fill

13:18

the remaining slots with probably just more manifesting

13:21

lands, but possibly not. You need that threshold.

13:23

Yeah, I just, I usually do that before

13:25

I'm at the leg end, like I'm like,

13:27

okay, these, I'm playing five or I'm playing

13:29

six or whatever. So I have to like

13:31

lock those in so I don't try to

13:33

trick myself into cutting them. Because I love,

13:35

because I will, because I will only only

13:37

on a two, or two, but you only

13:39

on two, but you only on two, but

13:41

you, but you, but you, but I will,

13:43

but I will, but I will, but I

13:45

will, but I will, but I will, but

13:47

I will, but I will, but I will,

13:49

but I will, but I will, but I

13:51

will, but I will, but I will, I

13:53

will, I will, but I will, I will,

13:55

I will, I will, I will, I will,

13:57

I will, I decision going

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in right in right? Mm-hmm. All

14:01

right so I I threw up

14:03

the surveils mm -hmm what

14:05

what cards or sets

14:07

have been right like either highs

14:09

or lows for you 2024? highs or

14:11

lows for you murders at Karlav

14:13

Manor? else were obviously the Those

14:16

were obviously the seen some

14:18

fugitive code breaker seen some a card kind

14:20

was a card that kind of made it

14:22

into the - There are some some role players. Yeah. The

14:24

The beginning of the year was a bunch

14:26

of like. of like... role players. Surveyal lands

14:28

were so cool. There are some other things

14:31

I'm sure. Like you other things I'm sure like I've

14:33

see the occasional threat like I've seen

14:35

some decks playing like from I was like, that's a

14:37

that one I was like that's a

14:39

really cool um, cryptic coats, pretty good. Well, modern, yeah, coats

14:41

pretty good. that set. I didn't want from that

14:43

set. I didn't want to go through

14:45

like I don't remember the set specifically just

14:47

like cards that are coming out. I

14:49

mean, are coming out. I mean, um, Modern

14:51

Masters so modern horizons modern obviously,

14:53

like Oslo Pride,

14:55

that sucks. all that's biggest

14:58

the biggest Real like the huge.

15:00

Yeah. were huge. Yeah, be

15:02

played for the rest

15:04

of for the rest of eternity Yeah,

15:06

but so will so many

15:08

cards cards 3. modern horizons three

15:10

yeah, like MH3 was a travesty.

15:13

It hit the hit like a

15:15

god planet like a

15:17

goddamn meteor. I'm Like

15:19

it's a meteorite. goal

15:21

is this and I mean you're

15:23

And I mean, right but

15:25

I'm curious where the I'm

15:27

curious you the line for you is

15:29

between, hey, it's really cool that I

15:31

have shiny new toys to play

15:33

with play with and No, this this is

15:35

bad actually and like where where is that

15:38

because of these cards are

15:40

fun are fun of uh inclusion Those

15:43

are my two big Those are my

15:45

two big deciding points of like, that we

15:47

also mentioned that we at no point

15:49

have we ever had more of man

15:51

of removal. Yeah, the answers are answers the

15:53

answers are everywhere are answers are

15:55

super abundant but they're not but they're

15:57

not efficient answers one man one man a

15:59

removal is not very good against psychic frog.

16:01

Your one-man or removal doesn't deal with half

16:04

of the a Johnny. Your one-man or removal

16:06

trades at mana neutrality with my ossalot pride

16:08

or guidosoles. At best. If I didn't get

16:10

you on the turn I played the game.

16:12

Yeah and you also just don't always have

16:15

your mana open because you are also casting

16:17

your spells. And so like if I might

16:19

guidosoles into one drop and you're like oh.

16:21

or like some kind of protection or hand

16:23

attack or whatever, or just you might just

16:26

be a red deck and I played psychic

16:28

frog and now you cannot beat me. Like

16:30

it's just I will discard my hand and

16:32

it'll be correct and now you're gonna wish

16:34

that you included your like Carrie Zevs expertise

16:37

or your claim the first porn or whatever

16:39

in your deck. Yeah. So the cost of

16:41

inclusion of a lot of these cards, even

16:43

Naudu, right? Like what's the cost of a

16:45

collusion of a nadu in... Well now I

16:48

have to have Shuko in my deck. No,

16:50

you don't. You don't. That's the problem. Yeah,

16:52

that's the problem. You could just play old

16:54

bristly Billiam or Sightcat Cub or whatever if

16:56

you want redundancy. I mean, I challenge you

16:59

to look at your deck that didn't intentionally

17:01

include stuff for Naudu and tell me that

17:03

Naudu isn't still good. If it's like on

17:05

Manna, right? Like it's already pretty clear. You're

17:07

saying there's nothing in here that the targets

17:10

Naudu. I'm like, what? No, like I'm just

17:12

a triple mocks deck with death rate shaman

17:14

and stuff. I'm just gonna play this Naudu

17:16

on curve. Just a three men, a three,

17:18

four flying bird. Yeah. Yeah, you're just gonna

17:21

try to kill it. I'll draw a card

17:23

then I'll force a will it or something.

17:25

It's like, yeah, we mentioned a Johnny, but

17:27

Tamio also been hitting White's. White a lot.

17:29

Some Soren's too. I think the new. Goyphs?

17:32

Rock. I don't, don't do

17:34

you have them in

17:36

the in the Beryl The other

17:38

ones make me no,

17:40

no, no, no, no,

17:43

no, no, no, terms

17:45

of no, good. Barrow

17:47

Goyf feels like one

17:49

of those threats. I'm

17:51

like, oh, this is

17:54

a problem. If we're

17:56

if we're talking like one of

17:58

those Somebody's been reading

18:00

the like, oh, this is a problem. If

18:02

least you can kill

18:05

it. Like it's like

18:07

three mana. have to

18:09

exile it with path

18:11

or whatever, like it's

18:13

big. But at least

18:16

it's like it comes

18:18

down. And then if

18:20

it doesn't get to

18:22

attack, you get to

18:24

one for one. like if you

18:27

you have the have the

18:29

card yeah if it's a a -minute

18:31

card that isn't a recurring

18:33

threat that makes multiple game makes

18:35

whatever, game pieces or I'm like, right

18:37

yeah then I'm like this is just is

18:39

just like sometimes this card's absurd, but also

18:42

like - We shouldn't have a like yeah Right.

18:44

Well, well, if you you didn't have a lifelink,

18:46

then you wouldn't recognize it as who

18:48

it is, which is Bane Slayer, right?

18:50

who it not, this card Slayer. Right? Like, it's not,

18:52

like card way Wheeler was talking about earlier,

18:54

where it's like, it's really tough to

18:57

interact with these cards in a way

18:59

that you're comfortable with. way This is

19:01

just Bane Slayer. Like, hey, did you

19:03

not kill it and I like, attacked with

19:05

it? Well, to like interact with these it's in card

19:07

that just - kind of

19:10

shuts down kind of shuts

19:12

down red decks, very well. well. like

19:14

it's you're you're going to have to

19:16

throw multiple pieces of a removal at

19:18

this or you just have just have to

19:20

hope sometimes you could just kill it with

19:22

a with a bolt whatever it's if it's played

19:24

out early, but like, you know,

19:27

that's where the beauty of magic being

19:29

a game where no two games

19:31

are the same, especially in Singleton is like

19:33

maybe one one game out their barrel goy and you early

19:35

and they're like, you kill I should play

19:37

the other things first so that when I

19:39

play the Barrowgoyle, if you can't kill

19:41

it. the bear they do that, then they're giving

19:43

you more time, time like as opponent of the

19:45

Barrowgoyle to, Goiff to play the game the game before

19:47

the Barrowgoyle the table. But yeah, Barrowgoyle, I

19:49

would say, rocks. Like Like I to agree

19:52

in general. It's like Barrowgoyle is a fun

19:54

card is a fun card for you playing it a

19:56

not a totally your card for your opponent

19:58

playing against you. I am I am that. I think

20:00

they all, Paraguay is, you know, arguably

20:02

the most powerful. Certainly it's more, I

20:05

mean, Paraguay is very good, but also

20:07

it's a four drop, which is a

20:09

million manna. It's a four drop. It's

20:11

a four drop. Which is a million

20:14

manna. Yeah. It's a four drop that

20:16

isn't mince can be or comet. So

20:18

it's a four drop that isn't mince

20:21

can be or comet, so it's, or

20:23

comet or comet, season engineer. Yep. Yeah,

20:25

and it's correct. There's got to be

20:28

more stuff we're missing from Bob and

20:30

Rice. There's just so many. Yeah, I'm

20:32

trying to remember what the best card

20:34

that Eldrazi got because that was another

20:37

important part of that. Maybe the rumors

20:39

or something, the one malevolent rumble? Oh,

20:41

well, that ended up not being like

20:44

an Eldrazi card. It's just like a

20:46

card that people slapped on until they're

20:48

like, wait a minute. This card rules.

20:51

Right, okay. Yeah, but it's an El-Drazi

20:53

coded card. So you could talk about

20:55

it. Getting, you know, what's the word?

20:58

The spawn? Yeah, getting a spawn and

21:00

kind of enabling your plan of getting

21:02

a bunch of stuff in your graveyard.

21:04

Yeah. Blocking for you and making mana.

21:07

Well, here's a question. Why don't we

21:09

shift to the decks that we've been

21:11

playing because it kind of ties hand

21:14

in hand in hand with this too,

21:16

right? and they made some strategies stronger,

21:18

they made some strategies weaker. So my

21:21

2024 journey, we can describe as, we'll

21:23

call it the all-you-can-eat buffet of the

21:25

food deck, where basically I, much like

21:27

in real life, I kept going to

21:30

the buffet until I hated myself. That's

21:32

my journey with the food deck, where,

21:34

you know, Lord of the Rings came

21:37

out, we got all the hobits, and

21:39

I thought to myself, oh my God,

21:41

food is so cool. And I started

21:44

cooking. I started cooking. And then Bloomberg

21:46

came out and I was like, oh

21:48

my God, so much food support, I

21:50

should just eat more. And then Foundations

21:53

came out and I was like, please.

21:55

I'm much. I'm not

21:57

having fun anymore.

22:00

It's just a way

22:02

just a wayfare thin mint. I, I,

22:04

I, yeah, and like, what, what

22:06

was it, like. was the five man

22:09

at, Lumrow What was the bear,

22:11

that's the the bear, the land

22:13

bear. What was from? yeah,

22:15

Blueboro, six man. What was, five was

22:17

food card from a food card from

22:19

it's green and black. It's a

22:21

green and black. It's green and whatever. Like

22:24

we're talking these black. finishers, right? These

22:26

legitimate threats in the in the

22:28

I'm like, OK, I could go

22:30

I'm like, I could go aggressive. combo,

22:32

I could go product gave us Commander

22:35

like us Hazel's

22:37

brewmaster, threats. threats.

22:40

And yet I just could not pull

22:42

this deck together, which was really

22:44

quite upsetting. Other other

22:46

decks that I think got

22:48

a lot of support and were

22:50

really fun really fun were equipment White equipment

22:52

and Boris that's the same thing.

22:55

And Naya equipment thing, and Naya equipment of

22:57

the same that of the same

22:59

thing, but faster and meaner,

23:01

right? faster and meaner, right? I don't

23:03

I don't think there's too many many standouts.

23:05

from those from this year. year, like

23:07

decks that I had fun with that

23:09

I played I had some cool new

23:11

cards. mean, and got some cool new in I mean,

23:13

white decks and the food tech. Pride went

23:15

in by red white can't think of

23:17

too many other inclusions there. And

23:19

then the last deck that I

23:22

really had fun with then the last deck that

23:24

I really had fun with And this was

23:26

a standout from Modern Horizons was

23:28

the Horizons was the magis of the the Blue Moon.

23:30

The Harbinger the Sea. of the of the Sea. There's

23:32

of the Seas. Yeah, Yeah. no, card we

23:34

forgot. wrote down to. And basically like I had some

23:36

others I wrote down to you. And

23:38

that card does matter. And basically of my

23:40

red decks have been strategies in the new shut them

23:42

down. And then when I was incredible. Temple, So all

23:44

of my this decks have been playing taking

23:46

advantage of these of the Moon trying to

23:48

shut them down. And then when I

23:50

went into Blue Black Tempo, Harbinger of

23:52

the blood deck and this mana denial package

23:54

taking advantage of these three, four check-zero-check check-check

23:56

decks, check-check trying to, I don't know, just

23:58

trying to find a way to ace.

24:00

dramatically change the board and build my

24:02

deck in order to take advantage of

24:05

it. I don't know. It was a

24:07

good year. I definitely missed on food.

24:09

I invested a lot of time. Look,

24:11

I'm happy with the journey. I'm happy

24:13

that I did it, but I'm gonna

24:16

be putting that one aside for a

24:18

while. Need to digest, go for a

24:20

walk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, have some salad

24:22

before I have more dessert, right? Right,

24:24

maybe, maybe it'll be time for another

24:27

meal in 2025 or later. But yeah,

24:29

you certainly put the you put the

24:31

reps in trying out all the fields.

24:33

I did put I certainly put the

24:36

reps in Okay, so I started my

24:38

year excited to put these surveillance into

24:40

team or escape shift. Yeah, and I

24:42

was playing a bunch of that deck

24:44

around matchcong Chicago and some North 100s

24:47

and maybe even a YJ tournament in

24:49

the early part of the year. That

24:51

deck's still really good. I didn't, I

24:53

borrowed a list from someone who had

24:55

done well with it online and then

24:58

I didn't try to, I didn't reinvent

25:00

the wheel, you know, it was like

25:02

pretty similar to, just triple ramp. No

25:04

it's both it's like it was time

25:06

walk and then I think you can

25:09

fit seeker seeker in there and then

25:11

some one or two five mana time

25:13

walks and then a bunch of ramp

25:15

stuff. It's my first time trying out

25:17

the Herkel card from Brothers War that's

25:20

not from this year but I liked

25:22

that card three mana two four legendary

25:24

and then it draws a card. Yeah

25:26

we'll get to also play that card

25:29

this year don't like it right. And

25:31

then when... Outlaws of Thunder Junction came

25:33

out. I really wanted to try Simulacrum

25:35

synthesizer. Oh, right. Yeah. I spent a

25:37

bunch of the middle of the year

25:40

trying out Esper and Grixis artifact decks.

25:42

So I tried out, Esper first, I

25:44

think I was a little bit more

25:46

successful with it, trying out again some

25:48

more Brothers War cards I hadn't played

25:51

with before to combo with this, along

25:53

with, you know, lots of classic old

25:55

Miradin cards and just good artifact stuff.

25:57

Yeah, this is what your Tamios are

25:59

coming to play, right? For sure. Yeah,

26:02

I played, I also played like all

26:04

the different erzas and I played like,

26:06

you know, I love playing like sculpting

26:08

steel and frixian minimal. So I was

26:10

doing that next to this. This is

26:13

an interesting card. It's certainly my favorite

26:15

card that came out of Thunder Junction.

26:17

And we made some robots. The deck

26:19

was actually okay. Mostly just, I think

26:22

the main success with this deck was

26:24

that it was built around trying to

26:26

get a bit of ramp. We'll talk

26:28

about it later, but like one of

26:30

the better things you can do in

26:33

Canadian Highlander. And then when I moved

26:35

to Red instead of White, I tried

26:37

some welder stuff. I've never been like

26:39

super successful playing Goblin Welder, but that

26:41

deck was still fun. And then in

26:44

Highlander, I didn't play this deck, but

26:46

in Highlander, after Bloomborough came out. I

26:48

noticed it was fairly popular to play

26:50

like almost mono red prowess. Multiple people,

26:52

including my friend Trenton McIntire, I ran

26:55

into playing at a tournament of YJ

26:57

playing this deck where you get to

26:59

play the new mice that have valiant

27:01

as well as like old good prowess

27:03

cards and then like berserk and like.

27:06

a few other green cards. I really

27:08

want to make that deck. Right, yeah.

27:10

The green is like a pretty light

27:12

splash, like the man is easy, you

27:15

just play your your untapped red-green sources

27:17

in your commercial district and and you're

27:19

good. You don't have very many green

27:21

cards. It's kind of like a red

27:23

deck wins, haste prowess deck, but that

27:26

deck's been pretty strong. Hmm. And then

27:28

Dust Warren came out. I remember Overlord

27:30

of the Hauntwoods was in your version

27:32

of Teamerscape shift. Not anymore. Oh, okay.

27:34

All right. That's that's your fun of

27:37

slaughter or whatever. But I remember I

27:39

remember that card was like, that's a

27:41

cool include for like, that's an interesting

27:43

piece of technology for scapes. I wanted

27:45

to mention that just because we haven't

27:48

I mean, they talked about Dustborne a

27:50

lot. It was fine. Yeah, Dustmore. Yeah,

27:52

Dustmore. Dustmore. Yeah. Dustmore. Dustmore. Yeah. Dustmore.

27:54

Yeah. maybe or two two

27:56

role that I have

27:59

in a deck.

28:01

I don't, I don't.

28:03

don't. I think think is going going

28:05

to, a hater. Yeah. But I a

28:08

hater, but I think Dustmort

28:10

is going to be the set we

28:12

year at it look back oh and go

28:14

should have just we should playing that this whole

28:16

this whole time. like we mean, like of

28:18

of whiffed on a horn oculus. I I

28:20

mean, I was down on that. I'm

28:22

still not as high on it

28:24

as other people. We did. We We did.

28:26

We which one is like Oculus is

28:28

two in a blue for a a porn

28:30

ochulus But to cast it, you have

28:32

to do You have to exile

28:34

six cards to So, six cards. you have to

28:36

do what? it's like to excel six right now.

28:39

And I think this card is

28:41

cracked in it's like $40 in standard right now. And I

28:43

singleton. Sorry, 60 card $40 in standard right now.

28:45

because it's so. is $40 card have multiple copies

28:47

of it and put it out. also, I

28:49

think the other reason why people are so

28:51

excited about this the three the three mana one

28:53

that we got in That has the three man of

28:55

that has the one green, it has one green green,

28:58

it has the activated ability to flip

29:00

a card over. over. Oh yeah, the Huntwood Shrieker. The The

29:02

hauntwood shrieker, and then people are playing playing like

29:04

of big of big cheat version deck where you

29:06

manifest dread with a bunch of stuff of

29:08

then you have then you have your is in there,

29:10

you have these other cards and you're and

29:12

you're like the ability to manifest dread and

29:14

you're like filling your graveyard. you're like I've filling

29:16

watching a fair amount of standard built around

29:18

these decks fair amount of I don't think it

29:20

is as good in think it is as good in

29:22

Singleton is in card constructs. That's my

29:24

take. my take. Wheelers looking at

29:26

me like I'm crazy. I'm on the other

29:28

side of the fence from of the I

29:30

think it turns out that we looked at

29:33

this card and thought we not worth and

29:35

putting in your deck that has a bunch

29:37

of in your deck that has a bunch of fetch got other

29:39

things that you want to use for

29:41

those that you're already to use for on. And

29:43

it just turns out we were wrong about

29:45

that. turns out we were is worth paying for

29:47

this thing because it's just that good. that good.

29:49

Well, but also, like reanimate and on earth are really good at this. And

29:52

really good at this. card by unearth. Yeah,

29:54

this card gets played a lot on earth decks.

29:56

And reanimate is just a messed

29:58

just a messed up card. right when you're

30:00

already like So, you know, you're already

30:02

cycling your troll of cause of doom.

30:04

Yeah, maybe this gets discarded or they

30:07

kill it once and they had to

30:09

use multiple resources or whatever. Yeah, you

30:11

get it back. Like, you only have

30:13

to pay three life. You don't have

30:15

to pay three life. You don't have

30:17

to pay six cards. Oh, right. Right.

30:19

Which is like, you only have to

30:21

pay three life. You don't have to

30:23

pay six cards. Oh, right. You don't

30:25

have to pay six cards. Oh, right.

30:27

Yeah. Like as min range or dedicated

30:29

graveyard decks like how much support do

30:31

you think it needs or is it

30:33

just free? You just cast cheap spells?

30:35

Yeah, it's just it's just fine in

30:37

the decks that are jamming all the

30:39

cheap good stuff. Yeah, yeah, but gets

30:41

better with Black certainly like I think

30:43

this card and psychic frog are like

30:45

best friends I don't think it's an

30:47

ancient tomb man occurred no No, no,

30:49

no, no, that's the thing that's the

30:51

thing to understand about it like you're

30:53

you we were right. You're not dropping

30:56

Oculus on turn one. No, I'm really

30:58

weird event happen You got mine twisted

31:00

or something. Yeah, Oculus is to me.

31:02

To me. It looks sort of more

31:04

like today is Jay's the mine sculpt

31:06

the mine sculptor where it's like and

31:08

you're like, uh-oh-oh. Yeah. Yeah, I gotta,

31:10

I gotta have it. Like, ideally I

31:12

can counter this, or I'm killing them

31:14

next turn, but like, it's hard to

31:16

do that because it makes a flyer

31:18

and another creature by the time you

31:20

can attack. Yeah, it's, uh, it's big.

31:22

It's big. Yeah, big scary. The lands,

31:24

the verges from Dustbourne are pretty good?

31:26

Yes, they've showed up a bit. I

31:28

like the blue-black one and the red-green

31:30

one the most. The red-green one is

31:32

actually kind of decent in the the

31:34

gruel prowess kind of decks because it's

31:36

one of them. It always adds red,

31:38

which is your primary color. And then

31:40

if you just play a mountain, which

31:43

you have, a plenty of them, then

31:45

all of a sudden it casts or

31:47

berserk or you're requesting druid or whatever

31:49

your... know green cards

31:51

of choice are

31:53

yeah, I like the

31:55

blue. I like

31:57

the white blue one

31:59

as well I

32:01

think there's some spots

32:03

where that can

32:05

shine. Yeah, always adds

32:07

white. Yeah, so

32:09

if you're like White

32:12

D &T splashing blues. Yeah. Yeah, if you

32:14

are a base white deck cast swords

32:16

on turn one cat or prismatic ending cast

32:18

counterspell on turn Yeah, you could definitely

32:20

just include it in your in your Esper

32:22

and and just guy decks for sure,

32:24

too. Yeah it

32:28

Let's see what else from bloom bro. There's

32:30

some others like the overlords. They're not

32:33

that like not the black one Bail mark.

32:35

It's pretty good. Yep. I've seen that

32:37

one pop up a bit bloom borough has

32:39

a Lot in this like we're talking

32:41

about before we're talking about dust born or

32:43

bloom borough. So I'm we were just

32:45

switched I'm talking about dust mark. No, it's

32:47

just said bloom bro. He said bloom

32:49

borough, but he's still talking about Yeah,

32:52

I think bloom borough is crap Crap.

32:54

Yeah, I think it's pretty crap. I

32:56

think it's pretty bad I don't think

32:58

more cards that are in it in

33:00

in our decks recently from bloom borough

33:02

than dust born Yeah, but I think

33:04

that's because they look cool and they

33:06

have cool things on them I don't

33:08

think they're that good comparatively or if

33:10

they are good. They operate very similarly

33:12

to Other cards like the valiant mouse.

33:14

Yeah, these red power sprites are real

33:16

But I don't have another card to

33:18

talk about exactly. Yeah them out. Uh,

33:20

who baza baza, but baza is so

33:22

niche Baza also to me kind of

33:24

feels flavor the week like it's yeah

33:26

Timely reinforcement, you know a lot of

33:28

that. Yeah four drops are tough man.

33:30

No, that's fair Like pop four drops

33:33

are gonna beat it pop hatch recruit

33:35

pretty good Yeah, the one man or

33:37

two one with the offspring But even

33:39

then it's just one man or two

33:41

one gets a little better later We

33:43

have a couple of those. Yeah, like

33:45

that's my thing with bloom pro We

33:47

said a lot of it. The cards

33:49

are just like Sure, it's a bit

33:51

a little bit of redundancy Cards like

33:53

the most excited about from bloom bro.

33:55

We're like there's like three or four

33:57

two mana mana acceleration And then in the in

33:59

the very next set they gave gave us

34:01

toy and I'm like, oh, this is

34:03

better than all of them than all of

34:05

and like still only kind of playable.

34:07

I mean, maybe there's some other card

34:09

from there's some other like missing on like that

34:11

I'm like missing know, on like, I is kind of

34:13

a cool thing, but of a up so infrequently.

34:15

up And just gave us the mono white

34:17

one as well. us the mono they made a

34:20

better one. Right. right, like, a better kind of awkward,

34:22

right? It depends what colors you're in. It's Yeah.

34:24

of awkward. It's kind of yeah, It's

34:26

think of awkward. It's kind of awkward.

34:28

a hell lot better better than terms

34:30

of like. in terms of like gameplay the

34:32

the cards. but yeah, that was off the

34:34

was off the mentioned the Overlord. Yeah, no,

34:37

I had cards I had I

34:39

had to and decks to talk

34:41

about they're sort of connected,

34:43

but yeah but yeah. You actually. took notes.

34:45

I did, I brought I notes, I wanted to

34:47

be prepared. I, so I I played, I

34:49

said, scape I I said, I I

34:51

played a bunch of of decks, I

34:53

just play a different I just played a

34:55

different summer. decks. Oh, think the, I

34:57

think the too? Yeah. Like I think the, I deck

34:59

commander a ton of of jund and like four-color

35:02

check just so much. And we've

35:04

been seeing that since since, Yeah. Right. Yeah.

35:06

So I mean that mean, that deck doesn't

35:08

feel a lot different than it

35:10

did in previous years, but it's

35:12

just still still It's just better. better.

35:14

Yeah, slowly yeah, gotten more more and more

35:16

stuff I played, I then I played I

35:18

went back to just trying to after

35:20

after playing John for a couple

35:22

weeks I was like to play just want

35:24

to play I So I was just

35:26

trying to play like a bunch of

35:29

different kinds of of decks and try

35:31

to land on one that I

35:33

liked the most and I didn't I didn't.

35:35

But I just just kept playing initiative decks

35:37

and trying stuff out with and and

35:39

all those colors with either omnath just all those

35:41

colors the initiative decks did fall off.

35:43

Yeah. Yeah, it fall off. Yeah. Yeah. over.

35:45

over. The the past year, that

35:48

at least that time of

35:50

recording over 2024, how many decks that were many

35:52

decks that were dedicated decks, at

35:54

least through at least through recorded

35:56

tournaments, do you you think actually

35:58

came in like a talk? for position.

36:00

So right, what do you mean? Yeah, from

36:02

the start of the year compared to now

36:04

or like total just total for 2024 because

36:06

there are a lot of folks we see

36:08

them in the comment section that are like

36:10

the initiative is bad when it gets terrible

36:12

for the format or whatever like the initiatives

36:14

too good and like what they really mean

36:16

is that white plume adventure before I can

36:19

do anything is too good. Yeah. But there's

36:21

a lot of complaints about the initiative as

36:23

like a whole, and especially the like, it's

36:25

so boring when I just fight the player

36:27

that goes like initiative into initiative into initiative.

36:29

But like over the past year, it's like

36:31

three. Sure. Just three decks. It's drop. Oh,

36:33

right. Yeah, turbo initiative as opposed to one

36:35

car. The truth is that like, turn one

36:37

or two white plume is terrifying. Yeah. And

36:39

season engineer is a really strong white four

36:41

drop that often ends the game. Yeah, like

36:43

those are kind of facts and if you

36:45

want to like do like I did in

36:47

early fall and just like focus on trying

36:49

to blink your initiative creatures as much as

36:51

possible and just win through like initiative degeneracy

36:53

it's like that's not actually a much stronger

36:55

strategy than anything else you might be thinking

36:58

of. It's not over-powered. That's fine because you're

37:00

playing a lot of crap. Like yeah, you

37:02

got a lot of draft chat. It also

37:04

reminds me of the evolution of the monarchy

37:06

when it was first introduced because we used

37:08

to play a lot of monarch cards and

37:10

it's basically now settled down to maybe you

37:12

play palace jailer Maybe but there used to

37:14

be custodial itch people used to play there's

37:16

a land that for five manna would introduce

37:18

the monarchy Oh thrown to the high city

37:20

because it was interesting because it's like if

37:22

you were a control deck once you locked

37:24

in control you could introduce the monarchy to

37:26

generate card advantage or if you're playing against

37:28

the control deck and you wanted to apply

37:30

pressure and they didn't have a threat you

37:32

could introduce the monarchy it was like it

37:34

was a really interesting sort of middle game

37:37

and then people eventually realized oh if I

37:39

introduced this thing and I can't hold on

37:41

to it I just lose and I feel

37:43

like the initiative might be going through a

37:45

similar journey as we said as as card

37:47

as creatures get better and

37:49

better Like Oslop Pride is is

37:51

like cool initiative thanks. Yeah it's

37:53

just people just people hit

37:55

the board so quickly

37:57

so it's hard to

37:59

be like oh my

38:01

court like I was

38:03

going to keep this

38:05

court guess the court of Garamber came

38:07

out came out which

38:09

is a new monarchy

38:11

card that people are

38:13

playing well are playing well new. It

38:16

doesn't even see that

38:18

much play anymore anymore. least

38:20

not least not in top tier like ducks

38:22

or whatever index or whatever cards are

38:24

fun are fun. Yeah they're like can be

38:26

good if you like you like.

38:28

snowball ahead of of people with this

38:30

thing or the fall from favor right right? If

38:32

you just lock down down one thing,

38:35

you can really start ripping cards.

38:37

The one the card that does see

38:39

a lot of play is a lot

38:41

of play is Aragorn yeah that's one one fourth Yeah, fourth

38:43

Aerolinkus. Fourth Aerolingus is a monarch. I know it's on a monarch

38:45

card. Yeah, yeah, has a word on it,

38:47

right? Yeah, yeah. Just yeah, of cute. kind of

38:49

two probably from Lord of the of the Rings

38:52

probably are the most played most played monarchy cards.

38:54

Yeah. Even above Palace Jail. Yeah, didn't think it That's

38:56

card, so I think think it's right. So I

38:58

think digress, you were talking about the

39:00

fall off of the were as a

39:02

result of new sets. off of the initiative

39:04

as a result of the initiative as a

39:06

mean, new sets. it's not

39:09

the boogie that people online

39:11

can make it out to

39:13

be. feels bad It feels

39:15

bad when somebody gets it

39:18

down very quickly. the downside

39:20

that's mostly the downside Sure. Right?

39:22

If I may very quickly. I just

39:24

want to, were there any other decks

39:27

that you wanted to I may very quickly,

39:29

I just we keep, we keep there any

39:31

other decks that you wanted to talk about? Cause we

39:33

keep, we keep a chance want to give Wheeler a

39:35

chance to talk about as as well before we. we. I played

39:37

El-Drazi as well, a bunch a the end of the

39:39

year. end of the year, but it wasn't It wasn't

39:41

that much different than it was before. was

39:43

of Annihilation was a surprisingly decent card. It's

39:46

a card. enchantment, but it

39:48

lets all your Eldrazi's tapped

39:50

for mana. all your El-Drazi's tapped for mana.

39:53

deceptively like, mana to huge even

39:55

though it also gives you two chumps

39:57

you can block with. you can

39:59

block with. playing with that card,

40:01

even though I wouldn't say like, this

40:03

is the card that breaks Eldrazi Green

40:05

wide open. It was just a card

40:07

I tried. And I was like, oh,

40:09

this sometimes just sort of pays for

40:12

itself in the same turn. But yeah,

40:14

that was my, that was most of

40:16

at least my 2024 Highlander career was

40:18

those decks. Cool. How much did you

40:20

gem this year with her? Not as

40:22

much as I wanted to, but I

40:25

did actually play. a considerable amount, just

40:27

not a huge amount of tournament. Sure,

40:29

sure. I mean, I tried to play

40:31

the tournaments when I could. I did

40:33

very funny enough manage to squeak out

40:35

a tournament win, like a couple of

40:38

weeks ago. Oh, next. Oh, man. Which

40:40

was nice. It was like, hey, still

40:42

got it. But yeah, and part of

40:44

it was my fault because I started

40:46

off the year playing a little bit

40:48

of like paradox and eggs. I think

40:50

eggs is mostly dead right now. You

40:53

kind of have to, it needs like

40:55

a glow up. It needs to be

40:57

built from the bottom up, like to

40:59

really take advantage of it. And right

41:01

now that's, I just haven't done it

41:03

because it's such a god damn nightmare.

41:06

Sure. That's what everyone else thinks looking

41:08

at that deck list. Yeah, watching anyone

41:10

play. So and I was playing better

41:12

you than me. I was playing paradox

41:14

and I was like, this is this

41:16

kind of does a thing, but I'm

41:19

not super into it. Similar things, right?

41:21

Both of them draw seven decks, not

41:23

the best into Bowmasters, Children, Hull Breacher,

41:25

Aupo, Razor Kin. Oh, yeah, the new

41:27

one that, yeah, God damn. And so

41:29

I played a bit of time vault.

41:31

And that was just going to play.

41:34

whatever damn deck is like really good

41:36

and just I don't care how soulless

41:38

it is because I have as I'm

41:40

sure people that have watched some of

41:42

the year-end championships I got a interesting

41:44

relationship with Time Vault and that deck

41:47

was very strong but also it was

41:49

not very It didn't

41:51

do it for me.

41:53

it So I was

41:55

me. So I was kind of

41:57

was a bit of

42:00

a MKM me a bit

42:02

of a, for me I

42:04

was at kind of

42:06

a low point

42:08

with of a to play

42:10

these cards. wanting to

42:12

then, cards. But more

42:15

cards got released it's

42:17

as more sets came out and I

42:19

was playing more and I was trying

42:21

different decks more and I was trying

42:23

different decks. I built

42:25

Bant beans. which Wild's Valdry, not

42:28

of Algeria, not a set from

42:30

this year, but, you you know,

42:32

I was like, yeah, yeah, feel

42:34

so good. good. And I think and

42:36

I think there were some changes

42:38

in the points around this

42:40

time, or maybe they were also

42:42

from early early 2023, that just the idea

42:44

of cards with up the Drawing cards

42:46

with like a solitude or a like a

42:48

solitude or a good. I very good

42:50

I didn't want to go back

42:52

to just Guy. I I haven't played played

42:54

guy this year year. because

42:56

it's it's just, you know, know, trying to

42:58

feel something here, but it had

43:01

a, it had a lot of that

43:03

just of vibe. guy Um, where, you

43:05

know, like like old jesci control where it's

43:07

like, I'm going to like for this

43:09

to miss I'm going to kill your

43:11

things. He's just waiting a whole year

43:13

to play just He's So that when

43:15

you play it for the first

43:17

time, it's going to feel fresh, again so

43:19

that when you play it for the first time, it's I

43:21

completed my set of Yeah, like having your first

43:23

see you next ever. Yeah. Yeah. I That was,

43:25

that was a big. jesci for this

43:27

year. I just was like, all right,

43:29

well, I I guess I'm not going to

43:31

play with these. play with these. But yeah, the the

43:33

beans felt great, especially with with coming out.

43:35

out. It felt It felt like I just

43:38

getting Tamio for that deck. It felt

43:40

pretty good, even if it's just kind

43:42

of one card. But then I then

43:44

I moved into which has a lot has

43:46

a lot of similar kind of

43:48

vibes because that beans beans deck, my

43:50

always like my Favorite thing to

43:52

do with that deck was was using to

43:55

Ferry 3 to Scapes shift on their end step

43:57

get get the Dead in a bunch

43:59

of a bunch of lands. just kill them with

44:01

these stupid zombies. It's like it's like

44:03

Splinter Twin, but instead it's Scape Shift.

44:05

Yeah. That deck was dope though. I

44:07

got to play Gideon Jura in that

44:10

band deck because I really like to

44:12

get, I like Gideon Jura. I think

44:14

that card is still just like fine,

44:16

draws a card off. Well that's interesting.

44:18

You wouldn't play that around sort of

44:20

like the peak of initiative in 2024

44:23

as well. Yeah. So that had been

44:25

a neat time to be playing Gideon,

44:27

right? Yeah, it was pretty good. Just

44:29

they all attack Gideon, the Gideon attacks

44:31

you, takes your stuff, and then I

44:34

just kill you to the back, maybe.

44:36

But then I switched to Scapeshift, which

44:38

I don't know why, because I've never

44:40

really liked Scapeshift, and I haven't really

44:42

liked, like, the curb your enthusiasm. Like

44:45

blue-green turns was never just wasn't my

44:47

jam so but that's part of why

44:49

I wanted to play it is like

44:51

I just never really played this even

44:53

back of the day push yourself to

44:55

a little bit yeah just try out

44:58

some new stuff and To win a

45:00

tournament if I just bring Nellie's deck

45:02

Yeah, well I I think I I

45:04

pulled from the same player online Hike

45:06

him I can't 17. Yeah I cut

45:09

the her cool. This is the thing

45:11

I looked at the deck. I'm like,

45:13

this is kind of cool. This is

45:15

fun. Like it just started out as

45:17

rug. I played with it. And then

45:20

I was like, I think I can

45:22

maybe do this better or at least

45:24

more fitting to what I like to

45:26

do. And so I took the rug

45:28

scape shift deck that had all the

45:30

turns cards, extra turns cards and beans.

45:33

And I added black. And I changed,

45:35

but only for one card. I added

45:37

black for demonic tutor and I changed

45:39

my point spread to be timelock demonic

45:41

tutor mystical tutor and that Rules yeah,

45:44

it's it's cool that that was legal

45:46

this year. Yeah, like that's yeah, it's

45:48

a wild spread. It's a wild spread

45:50

and yet it's like there's no moxes

45:52

in the stick. Yeah, you know, and

45:55

yeah. Just being able

45:57

to do demonic

45:59

tutor for do a monic

46:01

really good. time walk is really good.

46:03

The surveil lands that add or sorry, the the,

46:05

the surveil lands. not surveil lands, what's, not

46:07

triumphs, the triumphs. I mean, the adding I

46:09

mean, made that deck a lot better a lot

46:11

better. Cause when you're taking

46:14

extra turns, sometimes you're just like,

46:16

I just need to hit

46:18

my I I just need to hit

46:20

my lands, I Um, need and the,

46:22

the And the gave me more black

46:24

sources that also added additional

46:26

mountains. So like So like. The genuine

46:28

issue of, I can't skate I don't

46:30

have enough mountains, have enough mountains.

46:32

Like very, like was making it a four makes it better. it

46:35

happened back in the day a lot.

46:37

That is of the day a It's like the biggest

46:39

so in the community being like my man

46:41

is so bad at three colors. I'll just

46:43

add a fourth color and now my

46:45

man man is so bad at three I was just, I

46:47

would draw of fourth my deck before I

46:49

found was I have all these lands in

46:51

play and I'd still be able to scape

46:53

shift for draw like that. of my deck

46:55

thank you. found Yeah. That,

46:58

that And that deck was also me

47:00

that deck was push how many tap

47:02

trying to play. how many tapped

47:04

lands a deck could play

47:06

10 that deck played Oh, think

47:08

nine or ten tapped lands

47:11

all my surveillance, all my all my all

47:13

my all my Yeah. Maybe a creature land.

47:15

No, a creature not that. Didn't have

47:17

I just have room. I just more triumphs.

47:19

Right. I was on like Right. Right. Right.

47:22

I was on like five four Three

47:24

or four surveillance. Mystic sanctuary probably

47:26

Because sometimes you play

47:28

it on Because sometimes you played on turn

47:31

one. Yeah. Yeah. Um, a tap That's

47:33

a tap I was on like

47:35

And I was on like 40 lands. It was

47:37

be of after me. That great felt felt

47:39

That deck felt awesome. a lot got a

47:41

lot from him each three and got, you know,

47:43

some cool cool stuff from

47:46

Desmourne, but cool stuff that I cool

47:48

stuff that I wanted. Like I

47:50

wanted that the green one the green one

47:52

to be good. And then And then up

47:54

ended up being up. at a up turning over I'm

47:56

like I cut it for like your poison. sure because

47:59

I wanted something to, to merctide region. That's

48:01

what that deck really struggles with is

48:03

bigger creatures, especially big flyers. And so

48:05

pick your boys. It needs to use

48:08

as an unsumor. Or a mystic confluence

48:10

and whatnot. And it just was nice

48:12

to have something that I could like

48:15

a demonic tutor for and just like.

48:17

hit their oborinoculus or the murk tide

48:19

or whatever. Is Pick your poison the

48:21

second best card after the surveillance that

48:24

come out of murders? Probably second most

48:26

played, honestly. Pick your poison in a

48:28

ton of sizes. How funny is that?

48:31

This like common draft shaft card. Yeah.

48:33

And it's usually, it's the kind of

48:35

card that honestly I wouldn't always play

48:37

in Highlander. It feels like over correcting.

48:40

But for exactly that deck where it

48:42

was like, well. Yeah, I could just

48:44

like hit their blood moon. That was

48:46

pretty important too. I'd want to get

48:49

basic green or basic blue so that

48:51

I get if I get the basic

48:53

green, I could then use my ramp

48:56

to find basic blue, etc. But or

48:58

activate Basaju. But now I could just

49:00

find pick your poison and cast pick

49:02

your poison. And then I've settled like

49:05

the past month, I've been playing Citadel

49:07

Storm, which is a Tinker Bolo Citadel

49:09

Storm shell. I've been doing two things.

49:12

I thought you were telling me the

49:14

name of another video game, just like

49:16

on a fan. I've been playing this

49:18

game on my phone, Citadel Storm. I've

49:21

been playing Esper, Three Animator in the

49:23

Sheets, and Citadel Storm in the streets.

49:25

Okay. The Citadel Storm deck is like

49:28

a Tinker Storm list that looks to

49:30

just get out Bullis of Citadel. And

49:32

that's it. I just, I kill you

49:34

with Aitha Fox Reservoir Sense's top. It

49:37

has an actual like boomer stormline, which

49:39

is really funny because I, there's the

49:41

Discord channel about it. They're like, yeah,

49:44

I don't really storm that often with

49:46

it. You know, that's kind of like,

49:48

I think I want to cut it.

49:50

And me, I'm just like playing this

49:53

be like, Yogwill, play these bob like

49:55

tendrils you twice or whatever. Yeah, that

49:57

deck has felt a lot of fun.

50:00

a pilot too, which is weird because

50:02

it's so easy to, you just find

50:04

Tinker and cast it. That part's real

50:06

easy. It's not dying to your own

50:09

citadel. Right. Or like, yeah, that deck

50:11

also plays timely reinforcements and sunset revelry,

50:13

the baby time reinforcement. Yeah, it's in

50:16

there. Come on. Yeah. Oh, that's, but

50:18

that gains you for and costs for.

50:20

Right, it just breaks even. Right, right,

50:22

right, right, right. You're not up on

50:25

renewed faith. Maybe, I did think about

50:27

revitalize. Right, that's because you're Asper and

50:29

you gain four. Oh, do you guys

50:32

is two men? Two men, I gain

50:34

three draw. There's also three men, I

50:36

gain four draw, isn't there, but that

50:38

cards. There's, that's been my like, bring

50:41

to tournaments. I got a turn one

50:43

with that, which felt great. That was

50:45

like, ooh, I'm back, baby. And I

50:48

will actually share this. I played against

50:50

local R.D.W. Pilot, the Red Menace, Greg

50:52

V.H. The Red Menace. Greg V.H. The

50:54

Red Menace. Yeah. Just like always on

50:57

gruel Blitz or R. D.W. or medium

50:59

Red or something. If you watch the

51:01

year ends, you've seen them basically every

51:03

year. Him and I have had some

51:06

fun matches where like in total I

51:08

think across two matches we played like

51:10

eight turns Okay, and both and both

51:13

and both of them going to game

51:15

three like And it's just I turn

51:17

one to him the first week I

51:19

played against him and the next week

51:22

I like turned to him And he's

51:24

just like so peeved and he has

51:26

this like he's off the plate he

51:29

goes land or turn to he goes

51:31

land roiling vortex Which is like a

51:33

two minute enchantment that says whenever a

51:35

player cast a spell without paying mana

51:38

for it they take five and then

51:40

it deals deals to each

51:42

each player then an then

51:45

activated ability for

51:47

red for red players can't game

51:49

and I was like,

51:51

sure and I was like oh

51:54

that's bad. He bad he

51:56

untaps goes land on you

51:58

hex on you cast a

52:01

non -creature cast a non-creature d6

52:03

take the and I

52:05

it was so I it

52:07

got me me I

52:10

had the like the

52:12

like chain of of vapor

52:14

style card. I

52:17

was like, oh maddening hex

52:19

I'll just bounce this

52:21

and kill you kill

52:23

you right he's like he untaps

52:26

he hex hexes me hexes

52:28

me I I try to kill

52:30

through Maddening hacks down to

52:32

one with like my one

52:34

reservoir my big reservoir and a the

52:36

play reservoir turn play. I but

52:39

it die, but it was a was a rip-roar

52:41

time. Very Very small number of

52:43

turns. Yeah. And then the And then the

52:45

other one is this esper deck, the

52:47

esper three animator, which which is something

52:49

I stole from Gladiator, which

52:51

is like, what if we if we just reanimate

52:53

all the busted three or less

52:55

cards? Oh, Oh, just all in on Earth. I'm just on

52:57

like on Earth, I'm just on like reanimate,

53:00

hand, Rack. Baby Sun Titans well lately, right? That there's smaller Sun

53:02

as well that right? hit That they're smaller

53:04

sun titans that also hit smaller

53:06

targets. of hot. Like I of hot Esper deck this

53:08

I played that I played on where I

53:10

where I lost to I was and I

53:12

was like, that can't be right. So

53:14

I So I had to go home

53:16

and recreate the entire deck. recreate the

53:18

entire deck. I don't know, don't know it's

53:20

just like like we were talking about with

53:22

like a about with like a and stuff and You

53:24

kill it once. What if you had

53:27

to kill it again okay, you kill the the What

53:29

with that deck to kill it's not exactly

53:31

where I want it to be that deck.

53:33

And it's to play the new Kiora,

53:35

which feels kind of cool. to of I get

53:37

to play the new I think her title

53:39

feels else. know Emperor bones? go, go, go,

53:41

go, go. We forgot her one of

53:43

is something cards forgot didn't forget it, I mean,

53:45

yeah, well, I didn't forget Emperor Bones,

53:47

but we didn't talk about Emperor Bones.

53:49

We talk about any of the

53:51

two talk about I know, I know, I

53:53

know. All right, all right. I of

53:55

Glory. know. All Oh all right. Arena of

53:57

Glory. Oh my God. Yeah, or those. So... favorite

54:01

set or top two, Wheeler. Oh, my

54:03

favorite set is also my least favorite

54:05

set in Modern Horizons 3. Yeah, that's

54:07

there. Yeah. Nelly? So my favorite set

54:09

this year personally across Magic the Gathering

54:12

was Dustmore because the limited was so

54:14

good. But for Canadian Highlander, I just

54:16

want to give it to MKM. It's

54:18

just going to have the most lasting

54:20

impact. Survey Alliance. Yeah. Foundations. Oh, okay.

54:22

I feel I feel maybe we've got

54:24

some recency bias on it, but we

54:26

didn't really talk about it at all.

54:29

I think foundations is cracked. Are there

54:31

cards from foundations? Yes. There's there's two

54:33

new aristocrats. There's the black manna doom

54:35

traveler. Yeah. Infestation sage and in the

54:37

jumpstart product. The jumpstart product. We have

54:39

so much. Oh, the wrickland groans. Yeah.

54:41

Right. A bunch of sweet placent cards

54:43

cards from that. Some pretty stuck about

54:46

that. Any lessons or takeaways going into

54:48

2025? So for me, I finally got

54:50

back into tournaments since the pandemic. And

54:52

I got busy again and I stopped,

54:54

but I had a couple of months

54:56

of going regularly and doing pretty well.

54:58

And I want to make a commitment

55:00

to trying to go again in 2025.

55:02

The other takeaway I've had is I

55:05

think I've grown a lot as a

55:07

player especially in reflecting on if I

55:09

want to win I need to stop

55:11

doing the surge things and there's a

55:13

little bit of tension there and it's

55:15

ultimately been good. Hopefully people have seen

55:17

a growth of surge Jaeger as a

55:19

player and I'm hoping that by getting

55:22

back into tournament scene I can get

55:24

back to form because I don't think

55:26

people have ever seen me when I

55:28

was really grinding and really playing a

55:30

lot of magic. I give you a

55:32

lot of crap. Mostly because it's funny

55:34

and I've known you for way too

55:36

long. Oh yeah. But to surge his

55:39

credit, this is a two-parter that the...

55:41

first might sound like a bit of

55:43

a burn. Playing on camera is really

55:45

hard when you have to be very,

55:47

when you have to be entertaining and

55:49

click all the buttons and stuff. So

55:51

the play that you may see on

55:53

camera doesn't necessarily reflect the ability of

55:55

the people playing. Magic's a hard game.

55:58

You're only seeing one match, whatever. I

56:00

can second that. But yeah, you were,

56:02

I mean, showing up to events that

56:04

you're just killing people. I think, didn't

56:06

you hit the finals like three weeks

56:08

in a row or two weeks in

56:10

a row or something? Yeah. Like, yeah.

56:12

Four out of six weeks. Oh, yeah.

56:15

And when you play good cards? Yeah.

56:17

And when you play good cards and

56:19

you don't have to explain the line

56:21

out loud to your opponent. Yeah. Like,

56:23

yeah, yeah, you're killing people, dude. I

56:25

think that's an admirable goal to have

56:27

too. Search a good deck and don't

56:29

make him introduce every match to the

56:32

camera. Just put away this man's hazels,

56:34

brew mask, that card's actually good. All

56:36

right, hide his astrid path and steel

56:38

shapers. Gastred path is also good. Yeah,

56:40

okay. Yeah. I wrote down some lessons.

56:42

I actually didn't see a lot of

56:44

Blood Moon, but then you two both

56:46

talked about it. So maybe I just

56:49

got lucky, because it felt like Blood

56:51

Moon should have had a real year,

56:53

with like how much... the land base

56:55

that is available to us pushes people

56:57

to have three and four color decks.

56:59

I barely ran into it this year.

57:01

So lucky. Okay. Yeah. So maybe I

57:03

was just lucky and that's the lesson.

57:05

If y'all don't have someone in your

57:08

community that's playing Blood Moon to keep

57:10

you honest, I recommend you become that

57:12

person. You be that person. It's like

57:14

free winds just hanging out. Somebody's got

57:16

to keep them honest. I do see

57:18

this pop up within communities that haven't

57:20

been playing Highlander for decades or whatever.

57:22

unique situation where you know if you

57:25

haven't been playing for that long or

57:27

if like if you're playing online and

57:29

like you know it is a bit

57:31

more of a hassle to like get

57:33

your webcam set up get your deck

57:35

sit down that kind of

57:37

thing like it's less

57:39

of a social

57:42

activity as it may

57:44

be going to

57:46

like your may or

57:48

whatever like your LGS or you

57:50

might run into

57:52

fewer people on people on

57:54

like Boros I can't say

57:56

ruin your evening

57:58

that's a thing that's the

58:01

on I don't care

58:03

about your your of

58:05

kind of like

58:07

you know the like

58:09

like know the decks luck hey

58:11

luck spirit guide tomb spirit

58:13

guide yeah blood boon because there

58:15

is a lot

58:18

of those running around

58:20

when people are

58:22

like are like Jaded and they

58:24

they just want their

58:26

store credit and

58:28

they're like like, I'm gonna and

58:30

so they've kicked my ass the past two

58:32

weeks. ass the finally going to do it, you

58:34

know. going to do it, you know, yeah. The surveillance lesson

58:37

were talking about earlier, but it's

58:39

just like but it's We learned. we

58:41

learned. how much more you have a

58:43

spare fetchland play? This is like a pretty

58:45

niche lesson niche lesson to like what fueled surveillance to

58:47

pop up and continue to grow in

58:49

numbers to in more and in more It's just

58:51

how often in this game that we

58:53

play often in this game that we play, it's Both players

58:55

are still alive. There's still decisions to

58:57

be made. And yeah, you have a

59:00

fetch land that you may or may

59:02

not and yeah you have a That's all. that

59:04

you may or may then crack this turn. I

59:06

sort of grew as a

59:08

person, I sort of grew as a person at like... noticing

59:10

like the kind of the truth

59:12

about format and its and its similarity

59:14

to vintage, like or Like, or at

59:16

least this year it felt like. our format

59:18

got Our format got closer to what

59:21

my idea of vintage is, how you know,

59:23

how we drew it up opens where you

59:25

you do have like some number of in

59:27

nine in your hand when you start

59:29

the game and then like you do

59:31

something. you do something terrifying if not game

59:33

ending or or threatening in the first

59:35

turn, and I just ran into like

59:37

and lots of matches where it was

59:39

like the opponent does something opponent I

59:41

do something nuts turn one, do and

59:43

then we have one and or more

59:45

turns back and forth, turns back and forth

59:47

like second you know thing

59:49

happens or whatever for one side or

59:51

the other, and then that determines it.

59:53

But and then that determines it saw so many I saw

59:56

so many moxes I played a lot of

59:58

moxes and across the table. the table I just

1:00:00

I think I grew a little bit

1:00:02

at mulligan evaluation. So I got a

1:00:04

little bit better and that's it's taking

1:00:06

I've been playing since like 1993 and

1:00:09

I've never been great at mulliganing like

1:00:11

it's a part of my game that

1:00:13

I'm always kind of weak at where

1:00:15

I'm like well I don't really want

1:00:17

to play with less fewer cards now

1:00:19

like it's hard. So I sympathize with

1:00:22

you you know if you're watching and

1:00:24

you're also terrible at mulligan it's like

1:00:26

it's okay you know we're a big

1:00:28

club. every opening hand of Canadian Hill

1:00:30

and we're like, well, could I possibly

1:00:32

beat turn one, inti, turn two, Laeli,

1:00:35

like could if that happened, would I

1:00:37

still be in the game at all

1:00:39

with this hand? And so that's not

1:00:41

just valid enough. How do I win?

1:00:43

It's just like if I'm slowed, am

1:00:45

I just dead? Am I just dead?

1:00:48

Am I just dead? Am I just

1:00:50

dead if how do I'm going into

1:00:52

my mulligans? And of course it varies

1:00:54

once you know the match-up on the

1:00:56

month. One of them isn't really, I

1:00:58

mean I guess it's a lesson, but

1:01:01

I've always been kind of a combo

1:01:03

DGen. It's that I'm not the, combo's

1:01:05

not the bad guy. We're not the

1:01:07

bad guy anymore. And what I mean

1:01:09

by that is that like, I genuinely

1:01:11

would have moments where I would feel

1:01:14

bad playing combo at my weeklies because

1:01:16

I would just. combo off against somebody

1:01:18

on turn three or turn four or

1:01:20

whatever and like they might salt out

1:01:22

and I'm like well I don't know

1:01:24

what to tell you you like did

1:01:27

the wrong thing at the wrong time

1:01:29

or whatever or sometimes it just happens

1:01:31

yeah and like that's a thing where

1:01:33

I you know it made me definitely

1:01:35

a little reluctant to always bring combo

1:01:37

but it is not the menace of

1:01:40

the format. The menace of the format

1:01:42

are these proactive... Yeah, it's a Johnny.

1:01:44

Yeah, it's a Johnny broadside bombard kind

1:01:46

of decks and like kind of realizing

1:01:48

like, wait a minute, we're all trying

1:01:50

to cheese. each other. Like that's

1:01:53

of the love

1:01:55

of a game. of a

1:01:57

for this format

1:01:59

is that like, yeah,

1:02:01

we're all just

1:02:03

trying to take these

1:02:06

wild swings at

1:02:08

each other swings at each

1:02:10

And And maybe I Maybe

1:02:12

I need to get a little faster. and

1:02:14

play and play some worse cards

1:02:16

to do so. person. I've never I've never

1:02:18

been happier playing tutor than I I

1:02:20

have right now. Was good this

1:02:22

year. Or Imperial Seal. I don't

1:02:24

care that they know. know. I really don't, I

1:02:26

mean I do care I mean, I do

1:02:28

care if they rock -a -vonded off

1:02:30

the top. That part's a little a little

1:02:32

awkward. you know, you know, it's just like yeah,

1:02:35

I I need to stop caring

1:02:37

about what my opponent. is is

1:02:39

doing sometimes and just accept that

1:02:41

that like, who Who cares? yeah, you know, you

1:02:43

know, they're going fast, whatever. I

1:02:45

need to just go faster. effect being

1:02:47

the best effect being the best possible

1:02:49

version of the effect didn't matter

1:02:51

as much as like the effect

1:02:53

reliably. reliably. because the opponent is is

1:02:56

like trying to end the

1:02:58

game. trying to then the second Yeah,

1:03:00

so. And then the second one

1:03:02

is, the second one one

1:03:04

is about, I'm trying to figure

1:03:06

out to word it. It's

1:03:08

basically, it boils down to removal

1:03:10

and it boils down to

1:03:13

responding to down to like, to

1:03:15

the starts, right? right?

1:03:17

Is just just like. You know

1:03:19

know, sometimes not not gonna

1:03:21

be able to stop their

1:03:23

to stop their or their turn

1:03:25

or Lelea or whatever, right?

1:03:27

right but I Can't stop them from

1:03:29

them from with it a with

1:03:31

it. the a lot of the

1:03:33

time. And by playing more You can get

1:03:36

away can get away with

1:03:38

that of a lot of these

1:03:40

threats aren't the kind of value

1:03:42

that you would it's not thrag

1:03:44

value. It's like dark confidant value,

1:03:47

right? And so, I And so the hit,

1:03:49

I can let that happen. can take the

1:03:51

hit. I can let that happen. I

1:03:53

just, you know, maybe I don't fire

1:03:55

it off immediately like a piece of

1:03:57

removal immediately or whatever or maybe it's okay

1:03:59

that I. play the tap like the

1:04:01

surveillance take the turn off for

1:04:03

the surveillance or the tap land

1:04:06

or casting ponder or whatever because

1:04:08

I need to find something for

1:04:10

the second threat right and it's

1:04:12

like just accept that like yeah

1:04:14

maybe they'll take the initiative maybe

1:04:17

I'll get hit by a brickload

1:04:19

or for a brickload I will

1:04:21

have to worry about some of

1:04:23

this but like right now I

1:04:25

just have to deal with their

1:04:28

first couple of threats so that

1:04:30

I can then like develop a

1:04:32

game plan beyond that, right? Like,

1:04:34

there's no sense in thinking about

1:04:36

the future if you're just going

1:04:39

to die in the next first

1:04:41

couple of turns anyways. And so

1:04:43

preparing for the nuts, kind of

1:04:45

like you said, but in debt

1:04:47

construction, not just Mulligan, is, yeah,

1:04:50

I think pretty important. Yeah. Good.

1:04:52

Cool. Good final thoughts there, friends.

1:04:54

I mean, made me evaluate a

1:04:56

lot of my goals too. It's

1:04:58

like if I want to be

1:05:01

grinding more in 2025, I should

1:05:03

be taking a lot of this

1:05:05

to heart. All right, shall we

1:05:07

call it there? Yes, good podcast.

1:05:09

Thank you so much for watching

1:05:12

everybody. Really, really appreciate it. I've

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