Winter 2025 Q&A || TTC Ep540

Winter 2025 Q&A || TTC Ep540

Released Monday, 10th March 2025
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Broadcasting live from Bleach

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Bone Verge on the plane of...

0:20

Actually I didn't check. I'm on

0:22

cat, I think. This is Tap

0:24

Tap Concede. Welcome everybody to Tap

0:27

Tap Concede. My name is Graham

0:29

and joining me is Kathleen. Hello.

0:31

And Cameron. Huh? And today, it's

0:33

a Q&A episode, because it's been

0:36

a while. So we're gonna... Aye your Qs.

0:38

I almost like Q-Y-Y-Y-Y-A's, but

0:40

that's your job. I question

0:42

your answers. Wait. Wait, hold

0:44

on. Yeah, we'll A-Your-Qs, and

0:46

then you cue them right

0:49

back. Exactly, yeah. Q as

0:51

in Q-U-E-U-E-U-E-U-E-U-E-U-E-W-We have queued your Qs.

0:53

Yeah. Yeah, they're all on a

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Q. James is just waiting to

0:57

push a button, and he'll do

0:59

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2:00

Thank you for that. All righty,

2:02

yesterday, James, I think it was

2:04

yesterday, James put out the call

2:06

on our Mastodon and Blue Sky.

2:08

Correct. Correct. I guess actually this

2:10

is a good time, at least

2:12

for now, in the past we've

2:14

had a lurMTG Twitter account back

2:17

in the day, and I think

2:19

we actually do have a lurMTG

2:21

Mastodon account. It's somewhere, yeah. It's

2:23

maybe a little too much so

2:25

I think going forward we're probably

2:27

just gonna use the one account

2:29

and probably try to tag magic

2:31

things with lur MTG and that

2:34

way maybe it's easier to find

2:36

or mute or mute don't care

2:38

all the chances are if you're

2:40

watching this yeah probably not but

2:42

okay unless you're hate listening to

2:44

it yeah in order to like

2:46

come up with things for a

2:48

receipt blog I mean, they're still

2:51

giving us those clicks. So who's

2:53

winning? Yeah. Yeah. So we are,

2:55

we're loading readyrun.com on Blue Sky

2:57

and just at loading ready run,

2:59

or loading ready run at kind.

3:01

social on Mastodon, if you're curious.

3:03

And yeah, so James put out

3:05

the call for some questions and

3:08

then he put together a list

3:10

and we have not looked at

3:12

it. Yeah. Yeah. So going in

3:14

completely information low. Yeah. Yeah. So

3:16

let's. Question number one. From Rayansaka,

3:18

if you could bring back a

3:20

line of magic products, what would

3:22

you bring back? Example, planes walker

3:25

decks, spellbooks, from the vault, etcetera.

3:27

Novels. Dang, all right. All right,

3:29

well, she took my answer. From

3:31

the vault is secret layer. It

3:33

kind of is. Yeah, kind of,

3:35

yeah. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, spell books,

3:37

because the, or not spell books.

3:39

the was they called spellbooks were

3:42

they called commander collection what were

3:44

they called they only did two

3:46

they did a green one and

3:48

a black one and then they

3:50

just stopped. Yep. They were like

3:52

a cool little, they covered all

3:54

the best colors. They were like,

3:56

I mean, to be fair, I

3:59

bought both of them and I

4:01

was like, good, I don't actually

4:03

care about the other three, but

4:05

they should finish them. I would

4:07

have. Maybe they did finish them

4:09

and then you didn't know. No,

4:11

they only did, they only did

4:13

green and black. They were, what

4:16

were they called? Was it Commander

4:18

Arsenal? You know, that was useful.

4:20

We were given a couple of

4:22

those that somebody had custom-made at

4:24

Magic on Chicago. Ooh. Yeah, well,

4:26

maybe, yeah, maybe the, uh, the,

4:28

the boat has sailed on the

4:30

Magic Dewhickies. Right. Right. I think

4:33

that lunch has probably been eaten

4:35

by 3D printers. But I think

4:37

the novels, yeah, novels, like, you

4:39

know, you have good authors, maybe

4:41

give them more than 10 pages

4:43

per set. Like, or sorry, Warhammer,

4:45

or Warhammer, Warhammer, Warhammer novels. Black

4:47

library has been publishing Warhammer novels

4:50

for 27, 28 years. And some

4:52

of them are just like legitimately

4:54

great. And you know what? There's

4:56

a lot of people who are

4:58

like, no. Like people who like

5:00

to, like, they're not just novels

5:02

for teenagers. There's a lot of

5:04

people who are like, no, these

5:07

novels are legitimately, they go hard.

5:09

Right? Right, good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

5:11

They do a top 10 of

5:13

their best novels every year. And

5:15

like they just publish a lot.

5:17

There's a market for it. Yeah,

5:19

lorheads love it. Yeah. And like

5:21

solidly, one or two of those

5:24

books per year is gonna be

5:26

a decent read. Right? It's not

5:28

gonna be anything profound. But you

5:30

know, stuff's gonna happen in it.

5:32

Yeah, you can you can it's

5:34

a great place to you know

5:36

elevate because there's so many people

5:38

who would love to write for

5:41

magic the gathering like you have

5:43

such a deep pool of talent

5:45

of like town of writers they

5:47

are already working with and then

5:49

all of the people who do

5:51

the side stories and maybe people

5:53

who haven't even hired yet to

5:55

write stupid books where stupid things

5:58

happen to characters that aren't of

6:00

any consequence. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah,

6:02

yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. One of

6:04

the great things that Games Workshop

6:06

does well is that they don't

6:08

focus the new, like there will

6:10

be a new novel for whatever

6:12

event is happening in the game,

6:15

but most of them just. don't

6:17

care they take place in the

6:19

universe somewhere right with characters who

6:21

may or may not have models

6:23

or any presence in the game

6:25

itself oh wow they just like

6:27

they're just like all right let's

6:29

just go play around in our

6:32

fridge it's so well stocked yeah

6:34

yeah make make our universe just

6:36

a little bit deeper yeah make

6:38

some sandwiches leave them behind for

6:40

other people and if we really

6:42

like the sandwiches that you made

6:44

maybe they get models and the

6:46

we get stuff that people are

6:49

invested in yeah what a concept

6:51

For those keeping score, I agree

6:53

with everything you just said, by

6:55

the way. For those keeping score,

6:57

who aren't familiar, it is called

6:59

the Commander Collection. The thing I

7:01

was talking about. The most recent

7:03

one, they made green and then

7:05

they made black and black came

7:08

out January 28th, 2022. So three

7:10

years ago, more than three years

7:12

ago. And it had Gulkolar Gisa,

7:14

a fia mancer for Xian arena,

7:16

reanimate, toxic deluge, toxic deluge, Liliana

7:18

hereoretical healerer. Most of them with

7:20

new art and then a salt

7:22

ring and a command tower that

7:25

were specifically like black aligned with

7:27

like new flavor text and everything

7:29

and a double-sided token with a

7:31

death-touch snake token for the Affiam

7:33

answer and a cool-looking zombie of

7:35

Liliana. Or Liliana's brother Josu. Yeah,

7:37

Josu. But it's it's it's just

7:39

a zombie token. But it's Joseph.

7:42

But it's clearly Joseph on the

7:44

token. It's a very cool token.

7:46

Big oopsie. So that's essentially it's

7:48

a very fancy secret layer. Yeah.

7:50

But. But. Finish the cycle. Magic

7:52

players famously hate it when you

7:54

don't finish the cycle. We did

7:56

too and that was it. Yeah.

7:59

The commander player is the world

8:01

over, or just like that photo

8:03

of the kid in high school,

8:05

who's like beat red with veins

8:07

standing out on his neck, waiting

8:09

for the final three commander personals.

8:11

Yeah, that's me. All right, next

8:13

question. I didn't even listen to

8:16

the name. The fundamental question we

8:18

came out of that way, I

8:20

did not get the name of

8:22

for that product. The commander collection.

8:24

Commander collections. Our next question from

8:26

Humbro. When do you feel magic

8:28

peeked for you? For me, it

8:30

was before the master sets. I

8:33

think it peaked for me when

8:35

I was in grade nine and

8:37

didn't fully understand how the game

8:39

worked, got to stay up till

8:41

11 o'clock on weekends, hang out

8:43

with my friends, didn't really have

8:45

a responsibility yet, didn't know how

8:47

to drive, didn't have a job.

8:50

I think that was probably when

8:52

magic was at its sweetest. I

8:56

don't think we can top this

8:58

answer. Yeah, I mean, the thing

9:01

is, I'm still enjoying it, like,

9:03

yeah, peaked. That implies that it's

9:05

all been downhill. Yeah. I don't

9:07

think it has been. I feel

9:09

like everything has like natural high,

9:12

like what's the highest high, it's

9:14

very hard to look back and

9:16

say this is the highest high

9:18

unless you have this Alesian childhood

9:21

memory of Magic the gathering. I

9:23

don't know, I want Game Nights

9:25

live in Vegas, that was pretty

9:27

good. I was gonna say, winning

9:30

the Game Nights championship has got

9:32

to be pretty big. Getting flown

9:34

around the world to do magic

9:36

events is kind of sweet. Yeah.

9:38

Alex asks favorite and least favorite

9:41

mechanic from the last year. What

9:43

are the mechanics for the last

9:45

12 months? They mean they don't

9:47

mean 2025. I assume from like

9:50

2025. I assume from like Marloff

9:52

Manor would have been the analogous

9:54

set last year. Right. Okay. Okay.

9:56

Honestly collecting evidence was good. I

9:58

did not like collecting evidence. I

10:01

liked collecting evidence. I didn't like

10:03

cloak or was it disguise in

10:05

cloak? The two like new new

10:07

morph and manifest variants? Yeah. You

10:10

know what worked out surprisingly well

10:12

was rooms. I thought I thought

10:14

rooms were good. Rooms were clever.

10:16

Rooms was really good. What was

10:19

the mechanical thing about Bloomborough. It

10:21

didn't really have a special one.

10:23

It had valiant which was like

10:25

heroic but just the once. Oh,

10:27

and then you could make the

10:30

offspring tokens. Offspring was very fun

10:32

and cute. And there was... Threshold

10:34

was back. Offspring valiant forage? Oh,

10:36

yeah. Forage was okay. Expend gift?

10:39

Oh, gift. Gift. Gifts to fish.

10:41

I did like expend, also, as

10:43

well. That was fun. I think

10:45

the mechanic that I've liked the

10:48

least that I've played... No, wait.

10:50

It didn't come out in the

10:52

last year. Uh-huh. O-T-J was... No,

10:54

no, O-T-J was last year. No,

10:56

O-T-J was last year. I don't

10:59

like Mount. I don't like Mount.

11:01

Yeah. I mean... I don't, I

11:03

couldn't qualify why I dislike Mount

11:05

to you. It's vehicle different. Yeah,

11:08

it's vehicle different, I think. Yeah.

11:10

It's vehicle different, I think. And

11:12

it was never a saga. Right.

11:14

Are we met, do you have

11:17

the list in front of you,

11:19

James? Uh, no, I was just

11:21

pulling up the sets. Okay, I'm

11:23

trying to remember what else was

11:25

in Thunder Junction. We had, because

11:28

obviously we talked about mounts. Uh,

11:30

uh, spree. Spree, um, uh, doing

11:32

a crime. I mean, doing a

11:34

crime was just giving a keyword

11:37

to something that you did anyhow.

11:39

And I did not, like, spree

11:41

was kicker, kicker, kicker, was, variety.

11:43

From oh, yeah from thorough school

11:45

thorough block I actually prepared to

11:48

call it here the longer I

11:50

think about this, rooms, rooms were

11:52

great. Yeah, rooms were great. Yeah,

11:54

I also manifest dread was very

11:57

cool and powerful. Yes, yeah, dust

11:59

worn mechanically was a lot of

12:01

fun. Yeah, dust more limited and

12:03

mechanically was well designed and fun

12:06

to do. And I think the

12:08

vibe was like just like half

12:10

off. Yeah, is the consensus on

12:12

it. And I'm prepared to like

12:14

broadly. Agree with that. The vibe

12:17

in the stories was good. Yeah.

12:19

Yeah, the stories were proper stories.

12:21

Such troopers the authors to be

12:23

like, what am I doing? Okay.

12:26

What were your thoughts on free

12:28

running? Oh, right. From assassins. Creed

12:30

set. I have not a single

12:32

card. Can I try to remember

12:35

what this even is? I don't

12:37

know what it is. I'm pretty

12:39

sure that it was it was

12:41

similar to a mechanic that I

12:43

don't remember the name of also

12:46

from Lowerman Shadowmore where it's like

12:48

if you if you hit your

12:50

opponent with a ferry or rogue

12:52

and I'm pretty sure that free

12:55

running is like if you deal

12:57

combat damage with an assassin or

12:59

Commander Then you get to do

13:01

something for cheaper or you get

13:04

some other benefit I'm upset already.

13:06

You went a little too far.

13:08

You either are perfectly right. You

13:10

may cast a spell for the

13:12

free running cost if you dealt

13:15

combat damage to a player this

13:17

turn with an assassin or commander.

13:19

There we go. Yeah. Cool. Yeah.

13:21

So a slight discount. Yeah. So

13:24

it is basically like, what was

13:26

that ability called? It wasn't skulk

13:28

because that's a whole different thing.

13:30

But do you do any of

13:32

your fairies have this where it's

13:35

like if you deal deal damage

13:37

with a with a fairy fairy

13:39

or rogue bonus? Yeah, I think

13:41

so and I'm trying to remember

13:44

what it is. I swear it

13:46

starts with an ass. They don't

13:48

remember what it's called. Anyway, yeah,

13:50

free running's fine, I guess. Sure.

13:53

It's like that. But it's like

13:55

that. Three. Oh right. No, I

13:57

don't think so. Modern Horizons, oh

13:59

well no, there was. Like there's

14:01

new cards, but I don't think

14:04

it was all the same, like

14:06

I don't think there's new mechanics.

14:08

No. Because I'm recalling that we

14:10

did some sort of modern horizons.

14:13

Yeah, I think the idea with

14:15

those sets are like, yeah, there's

14:17

like a billion returning mechanics, but

14:19

none of them are actually new.

14:22

Yeah. Actually, if I could go

14:24

back and amend an earlier answer,

14:26

I'd love to do that and

14:28

would say that. Magic peeked for

14:30

me the time I was playing

14:33

at lunch with friends and I

14:35

crude of a dally in war

14:37

machine with my entire board swung

14:39

with it and did not get

14:42

tarred. Ooh That that was that

14:44

was magic at its best. Hell

14:46

yeah, good time. It's all been

14:48

it's all been a trail of

14:51

yeah misery since then All right

14:53

next question King of Doma

14:55

asks, so now that it's been a

14:57

few weeks, how are we feeling about

14:59

commander brackets? Any glaring emissions you hope

15:02

they address in the full version? I

15:04

don't know about the second part of

15:06

that, about glaring emissions, no idea. But

15:08

so far, and having come back from

15:10

a MagicCon where they were actively play

15:12

testing this in the area, in the

15:14

command zone play area, with like little

15:17

signs being like, you know, bracket two,

15:19

bracket four, things like that. I think

15:21

it. worked really well because what I

15:23

love is there was a we did

15:25

an episode of tap tap about the

15:27

commander brackets and there was a comment

15:30

from someone who was like they're like

15:32

I don't really I mean you know

15:34

they say that this is supposed to

15:36

sort of make sense like this but

15:38

I don't really know because like I

15:40

kind of feel like you know I

15:42

have this deck this deck you know

15:45

it's like a two point five and

15:47

I'm like no no it's not it's

15:49

two yeah it with a one to

15:51

ten scale there was room for that

15:53

with this It's very clear. Something either

15:55

is two or not. Or it is

15:58

three or not. There are very clear

16:00

distinctions about what bracket a thing goes

16:02

in. And there's different, like, reasoning

16:04

for that. And like, again, read

16:07

the article, not the little graphic

16:09

the Wizards did. In fact, read

16:11

the more fulsome graphic that Rachel

16:14

Weeks put together for a sort

16:16

of idea on the philosophy behind

16:18

the brackets. But there's no such

16:21

thing as a three and a half or

16:23

a two point five. It's like, no, does

16:25

it fit this? And it's three, right? I

16:27

don't know. I didn't play any commander at

16:29

Magic-Con, but there were tables of people with

16:32

the signs and they're, you know, they would

16:34

have known what they were sitting down to

16:36

do. So I think it's a step in

16:38

the right direction. I played some

16:40

commander at Magic-Con, so I have

16:43

a pre-conduct that I bring to Magic-Cons

16:45

because it plays, it's pretty quick and easy

16:47

to play and I've played a lot, so

16:49

if I'm playing with you, I don't have

16:51

to read my cards too much. I still

16:54

misplay it. But anyhow it

16:56

is the... Throne of Eldrain,

16:59

Tegwill, Tegwill deck, but I'm

17:01

running a Layla as the commander, and

17:03

I've added some different cards over the

17:05

time. But it still contains zero game

17:07

changers, tutors, extra turns. So it is

17:09

a tuned up pre-con, but it is

17:11

not on the level of something that

17:13

has been built, right? I will have,

17:15

this is not me, this is me

17:17

sort of saying, the brackets are just

17:20

a power level discussion, how well you

17:22

play and how lucky you get on

17:24

your draws can really affect. how your

17:26

deck does. What did you say, speaking of

17:28

Blue Sky, what did you say about this

17:30

deck? Oh yeah, I took a pre-con and

17:32

I added some cards to improve it

17:34

and then I added some cards to

17:36

make it worse because I like those

17:39

cards better than good cards. Yeah. Yeah.

17:41

I think my pet commander deck, my

17:43

Ramirez deck, is a solid one. And

17:45

it is designed with the philosophy that

17:47

every time I draw a card, I

17:49

look at it and go, yeah. Yeah,

17:51

because it's a common commander deck.

17:53

Yeah, yeah, every card in that

17:55

deck is a card I feel

17:58

warmly about. Maybe not like. excited

18:00

about, but it's a card

18:02

where I look at it

18:05

and I'm like, hey, I

18:07

like you. That's the very

18:09

definition of a one. Yeah.

18:12

In terms of the pure

18:14

utility of having a pre-game

18:16

power level discussion, the brackets

18:19

are already so much better

18:21

than an arbitrary one through

18:23

10. Yeah. And you can

18:26

have feelings about. specific game

18:28

changers or the things that

18:30

they have determined make the

18:33

difference between a one and

18:35

a two or a three,

18:37

you know, that you can

18:40

definitely, I'm not saying they're

18:42

perfect, right? But the structure

18:44

of it is already so

18:46

much better than like vibes

18:49

based scale. Yeah. Yeah, the

18:51

decimal. conversation reminds me

18:53

so much of the time that

18:55

like I got an 89.7 at the

18:58

end of term in one of my

19:00

classes and I went to see the

19:02

profit about it and I was just

19:05

like you know this is this is

19:07

a difference between a day and yeah

19:09

like point three could we round this

19:12

up to a to an a plus

19:14

and he was like you should have

19:16

gotten that extra point three that's

19:18

why we have those right like yeah

19:21

I agree like if this was if

19:23

we didn't have the decimal points Yeah,

19:25

89.7 would round up to a 90.

19:28

But you know what, 89.7 rounds up

19:30

to? Considering we have these decimal points?

19:32

89.7. Wow. Yakes. But here, I was

19:35

like, yeah, I mean, okay, I guess.

19:37

Yeah, there's some intent to these cards,

19:39

but I will say, I did test

19:42

the deck after added a bunch of

19:44

these bad cards. Some of them are

19:46

good cards. Some of these bad cards.

19:49

Some of them are good cards. Some

19:51

of these bad cards are good, actually.

19:53

Well, I added the, I added the

19:56

enchantment dire undercurrent, which is an old

19:58

Lorewin. Oh, and whenever a blue creature

20:00

comes into play you draw, you draw

20:03

a card. Right? Like on its own.

20:05

By magic to standards today, that doesn't

20:07

do anything that turns it comes down.

20:10

It doesn't get me immediate advantage. Nothing

20:12

even happens on my upkeep, right? Or

20:14

the my end step. You gotta play

20:17

creatures to do stuff. You gotta play

20:19

creatures to do stuff. I gotta play

20:21

creatures. And the like, oh, yeah, I

20:24

can make creatures on other people's turns,

20:26

but I just paid five mana for

20:28

an enchantment. So I'm probably not gonna

20:31

get that for a turn. You get.

20:33

Cool. Well, no, it's an opponent discards

20:35

a card. I don't. Now that I

20:38

think about it, maybe my deck is

20:40

actually, like, way higher than a one,

20:42

because it's got transmute cards in it.

20:45

Oh. Where do those fall? I have

20:47

no idea. I don't think, I don't

20:50

think, I actually don't think that, I

20:52

think it's probably still a one. I

20:54

don't think they count as tutors. Because

20:57

they're not, like, like, I'm playing the

20:59

world's worst tutors. So who can say.

21:01

But they're still tutors. Maybe mine's maybe

21:04

mine's a 1.2. No, 1.3. Killian asks,

21:06

you all came back to the game

21:08

almost 15 years ago. What? And in

21:11

that time magic has changed a lot.

21:13

That is true. What are some of

21:15

the best changes and what are some

21:18

of the worst in your opinion? Hmm.

21:20

Interresting. Okay. Some of the best changes.

21:22

Hey, I'm just gonna say arena beats

21:25

the pants off of mico. Yeah, yeah,

21:27

arena's just You know, I had a

21:29

rough start, but I think anything that

21:32

big is gonna have a rough start.

21:34

Like I know there are advantages to

21:36

mico. I understand that it's much more

21:39

like one-to-one with the paper game in

21:41

terms of the cards that you can

21:43

play. I get it. But in terms

21:46

of just like cleanliness of use and

21:48

just sitting down and doing a draft

21:50

is so nice and I can play

21:53

it on my phone and I

21:55

shouldn't but I can and I do

21:57

controversial opinion I'm gonna come out swing

21:59

in here You know, if you're hate

22:02

listening to this, waiting for something for

22:04

your seats blog because it's 2012, then,

22:06

you know, get out your pen and

22:09

pencil. Explicit commander products, like products that

22:11

were designed specifically for commander, like commander

22:13

masters, pre-printed commander decks with new cards

22:16

in them. It's just like everything has

22:18

so many words on it. They're, they're,

22:20

I'm using air quotes here for the,

22:23

for those listening, they're too good. They're

22:25

hypertuned. Yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. I think

22:27

Wheeler's talked about this before, I think

22:30

on this podcast that like, cards that

22:32

are very explicitly designed for commander are

22:34

kind of a mess. Yeah. Sometimes. Whereas

22:37

cards that are like, oh. I've discovered

22:39

a way that this could be good

22:41

in commander is much more interesting than

22:44

like, oh this is obviously, and I

22:46

don't mean like, you know, you look

22:49

at it in a draft pack and

22:51

you're like, this is a commander card.

22:53

I mean ones that are like, again,

22:56

like in a commander product where it's

22:58

like, oh, we're making a product here

23:00

that's just a commander product, we can

23:03

do whatever we want. So we'll design

23:05

a card that does this, and it's

23:07

like, that's so arbitrarily arbitrarily powerful, I

23:10

don't know, maybe this is a boomer

23:12

magic opinion. It actually is a boomer

23:14

magic opinion, but I like sorting through

23:17

the dollar rares. Finding something neat and

23:19

going, ooh, yeah, this would work. I

23:21

think the best thing that has come

23:24

out of magic has been some last

23:26

15 years. I think one of the

23:28

things I have disliked is the... aggressive

23:31

monetization of FOMO in how secret layers

23:33

are sold now. It was I didn't

23:35

like it when they launched Secret Layers

23:38

that it was like, you have to

23:40

buy this now. Like you have a

23:42

window of hours before they're sold out.

23:45

And they were like, okay, people didn't

23:47

like that. So now they're open for

23:49

a set period of time. Do you

23:52

have opportunity to get it? And it's

23:54

just the ceiling is however many we

23:56

sell when it cuts off. That was

23:59

good. And now that they're like, okay,

24:01

it's open for like two weeks, but

24:03

once it sells out, that's it. Hate

24:06

that's it. Hate that. Hate that. I

24:08

actually haven't, I'm a sucker and I

24:10

haven't bought a secret lair in a

24:13

long time, because the new system is

24:15

bad. Yeah, means that you can't be

24:17

like, oh I was gonna get that.

24:20

I should get that. Yeah. Like I

24:22

get the, I even, they even send

24:24

me the emails and they're like, hey,

24:27

new secret layers launching and I'm

24:29

like, oh right, I guess that was

24:31

this morning. I could probably go look,

24:33

oh, the ones I wanted or gone.

24:36

Okay, well, well, now I just feel

24:38

bad. I didn't mind the print-to-order system

24:41

at all. Yeah, right. I didn't mind

24:43

waiting five months to get the thing

24:45

that I ordered because I actually got

24:48

the thing that I ordered. Yeah, you

24:50

were able to purchase it for the

24:52

money that you wanted to give them.

24:55

Yeah. All right, so we're hearing that

24:57

the print-to-order secret layer system was great.

24:59

And I actually, like, I do have

25:02

to say, I like in general. I

25:04

like the idea of secret layers because

25:06

it is a way to read to

25:09

get more copies of cards that people

25:11

want for their decks in out there

25:13

You're basically it's like I don't know

25:16

I have just fun It's like the

25:18

Marvel Snap alternate art treatment, right? Like

25:20

there's like a million different iron mangs

25:23

that you can have, but you can

25:25

have your own, the special iron mang

25:27

that you like best. And you can

25:30

deck, you can bling out your deck

25:32

and it's fun and it's collectible and

25:34

you don't have to pay for these,

25:37

but it does drive down the price

25:39

of the normal art, which is still

25:41

so good because Magic Card art bangs,

25:44

right? Right? I think. I mean, yeah,

25:46

I like when they do weird stuff

25:48

with the. secret layers like the rules

25:51

text land. I thought we're hilarious. That's

25:53

funny. Right? The Genjito alt-heart. Like, does

25:55

it matter if doomsday is like a

25:58

$5 card? Not really. I'm not here

26:00

for value. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean,

26:02

but like any time that they reproduce

26:05

or retake take out something that's like

26:07

a $10 card. And like, it's not

26:09

like the most expensive card, but here's

26:12

the deal. There just there's a few

26:14

more copies in it. There's a few

26:16

more copies. because they did that they

26:19

did the rules tech secret layer lands

26:21

but it was still just like five

26:23

cards right and it's like these are

26:26

basic lands but more recently when they

26:28

did the yes they did the they

26:30

did some very fancy looking looking looking

26:33

ones including a particularly suggestive island those

26:35

were in those were ten yeah was

26:38

it ten basic lands in a in

26:40

a thing Good. That's how many you

26:42

want. Then you can put together a

26:45

draft kit of these these particular lands.

26:47

I didn't buy those ones, but they

26:49

looked cool. Yeah. I did say a

26:52

good thing, right? What was the good

26:54

thing I said? Arena. Arena. Arena. Yeah.

26:56

Arena is on my phone. I can

26:59

play magic on my phone. I'm going

27:01

to say the nadir of magic for

27:03

the past 15 years is when

27:05

we had Theros. the theros block that

27:08

didn't even get a story. People are

27:10

like, why is what's going on? And

27:12

they're like, ah, we've canceled the story.

27:15

Right. Yeah. Well, beyond death. Yeah. There

27:17

wasn't web fiction. It was just there

27:19

was a trailer and it's like, there's

27:22

Elspeth and Ashyok and things are happening.

27:24

Yeah, it's all been very much like,

27:26

well, yeah, this is what happened. BD

27:29

648 asks, if you were a new

27:31

player wanting to get into magic lore,

27:33

how would you get started? Current story,

27:36

good old story? Books, question mark? I

27:38

would start with the current story because

27:40

it's well written and interesting. I would

27:43

just read the story. for the block

27:45

that you're reading so you understand what's

27:47

going on and if you're like who

27:50

are these characters great you can dig

27:52

into a whole bunch of extra resources

27:54

or you could just keep up with

27:57

what is going that's what I would

27:59

do. Tarkier Dragonstorm has seven pieces of

28:01

main story and five side stories yes

28:04

that's a lot that's 12 that's great

28:06

that's correct but you get a seven-story

28:08

now what if it was six sides

28:11

stories? Well, I think I assume it's

28:13

one for every clan. No, I know

28:15

I was just saying you were did

28:18

the math really quickly not not really

28:20

you did simple math I was just

28:22

You were like that's 12 and I'm

28:25

like yes, but what if the numbers

28:27

were different? It's quite a bit of

28:29

when you're like that's quite a bit

28:32

of it is quite a bit of

28:34

fiction like 12 pieces of I think

28:37

the side stories are like 5,000 words

28:39

so that's we've got five of them

28:41

25, 25,000 words. That's that's a no.

28:44

So think of it's a no, so

28:46

think of it this way. So think

28:48

of it this way. So think of

28:51

it this way. So think of it

28:53

this way. Oh yeah, you can just

28:55

listen. That deck, that counts as reading

28:58

a book. There's also the MTG Vortho

29:00

subreddit and those people are so excited

29:02

to get in there. But yeah, Magic

29:05

Story is crafted with love. I would

29:07

read the story for the most recent

29:09

set. And if you like it, there's

29:12

more. There you go. Next. Tap

29:14

and Roll asks, half the standard

29:16

sets are universes beyond products this

29:18

year. UB sets have significantly higher

29:21

costs due to licensing. LGS's are

29:23

already struggling. Is this tenable? Can

29:25

I, before we jump into this,

29:27

can I push back on the

29:29

premise of part of this question,

29:31

which is that UB sets have

29:34

higher costs due to licensing? That's

29:36

not why. Because there are licensing

29:38

costs. But the expectation is that

29:40

they do that because they know

29:42

that these will make money. It's

29:44

not there's licensing costs, so Wizards

29:46

has to charge more. It's there

29:49

are licensing costs and Wizards charges.

29:51

is more because

29:53

they know they

29:55

can sell these

29:57

for hire because

29:59

they're a thing

30:02

that people want.

30:04

Those are separate.

30:07

We don't know this, but I I'm just saying that's

30:09

not an excuse. I would just, yeah. I would

30:11

imagine there's also some kind

30:13

of like profit sharing arrangement.

30:15

Yeah. Between the licensee and

30:17

the licensor, right? Cause - Yeah,

30:20

it's not like wizards, sorry. We

30:23

do a lot of work with wizards, but I'm

30:25

just saying people, wizards has never

30:27

said this also, by the way. This is an

30:29

excuse that people have made up. Wizards

30:31

has not said, well, you know, the licensing

30:33

costs means we have to charge more for

30:35

Final Fantasy than a normal standard set. That's

30:37

something other people have invented as

30:40

a defense, I guess. I

30:42

don't think it's good for what

30:44

it's worth. I think, especially

30:46

now that all UB is standard,

30:48

I think that having some

30:50

standard sets are just $2 more

30:53

because it's got cloud on

30:55

the box. I don't like that.

30:57

As a cloud enjoyer, right?

30:59

I'm very excited about Final Fantasy.

31:01

Yeah. I

31:04

don't know. I mean, like,

31:07

LGSs are struggling

31:10

for other reasons. Like,

31:13

to the benefit of LGSs, wizards

31:15

finally brought back MSRP, right? Like

31:17

that was not good for LGSs when

31:19

they did away with MSRP. So

31:22

I'm excited about that. I

31:25

think what's harming LGSs is not

31:27

even that, but it's that

31:29

like the higher

31:31

costs that an

31:33

LGS is obliged to charge versus

31:35

what you can get magic for

31:38

on, I guess, Amazon. I

31:41

have never bought magic on Amazon and I never

31:43

will, but that's beside the point. There's some real

31:45

reliability issues with buying your magic from Amazon

31:47

though. If you buy it from like, specifically

31:50

the Magic the Gathering store then, but

31:52

check that, because you can get got

31:54

some, I've seen horror stories about like,

31:56

I bought this off Amazon and it

31:58

was full of bricks. You know. Yeah, because

32:00

the Amazon does not want you to

32:02

find the magic of the gathering store.

32:04

They want you to find a reseller

32:07

who is paid for elevation

32:09

in search result. Yeah, I don't, okay.

32:11

Don't buy things from Amazon,

32:13

period, but that's, yes, other options

32:15

are available. I would say, here's

32:17

my problem with this, with the

32:20

question. Local game stores are

32:22

struggling. I don't think local game

32:24

stores are struggling because you B

32:26

sets have a higher price tag.

32:29

I don't like that you B sets have

32:31

a higher price tag. I think that's

32:33

bad. And also they have a higher

32:35

price tag not because of licensing

32:38

costs, but because Wizards knows

32:40

they can just sell them

32:42

for more because people will

32:44

buy them. Like Final Fantasy,

32:46

they like, they, their Amazon

32:48

pre-ordered link broke because people

32:50

were clicking it so much. Like,

32:53

they're gonna sell. They have said time

32:55

and again. They're like, if... universes

32:58

beyond didn't sell like hot cakes

33:00

we would stop but you know

33:02

there is a vocal pushback

33:04

against them from from some

33:07

people online but they're selling

33:09

they're selling really well yeah

33:11

so for every entrenched magic player

33:13

who's like I don't like this

33:16

I want to keep my magic

33:18

lore special there are you know

33:20

five people who are like oh

33:22

my god I love final fantasy

33:25

I would allege that LGS

33:28

is probably struggling because of

33:30

just the state of everything

33:32

in the economy and many

33:35

costs. Venture capital, siphoning

33:37

up property as a

33:40

guaranteed investment stream. Rents

33:42

are going up, mortgages

33:44

are going up. LGS is

33:46

like definitionally, our businesses that

33:49

are kind of like luxury

33:51

goods, which people will forego

33:53

when like food and rent.

33:55

get expensive. Yeah. I don't have an answer

33:58

for how to save the local game store. but

34:00

a couple dollars more for a

34:02

you be for a you be

34:04

pack is not what's harming them

34:06

but also they shouldn't cost more

34:08

yeah I hope I hope I

34:10

hope I hope that I hope

34:13

that part's coming across yeah yes

34:15

that part I want to make

34:17

it that really clear yeah the

34:19

the surcharge sure don't help yeah

34:21

next question from Julian rogue not

34:23

in the new season because spoilers

34:25

but what's your favorite joke or

34:27

gag from previous seasons of Friday

34:29

nights Ooh. Ooh. Man, it might

34:32

just be in the first episode

34:34

where Kathleen is hiding behind a

34:36

stand in the back of yellow

34:38

jacket, as more and more people

34:40

are revealed to be breaking the...

34:42

Oh, the rule of we can't

34:44

spend too much on our decks.

34:46

Yeah. Yeah, that it's like, I'm

34:48

in yellow jacket and other people

34:51

come in. They're like, what are

34:53

you doing here? Like, oh, just

34:55

buying sleeves. And then there's like...

34:57

someone else pops up and then

34:59

another person pops up and then

35:01

I think many people didn't notice

35:03

on their first watch that like

35:05

way in the back is like

35:08

also Kathleen peering around the corner

35:10

the way the back that's I

35:12

do like that one that is

35:14

from like one of the first

35:16

if not the first episode I

35:18

mean also from the very first

35:20

episode it's it's it's been an

35:22

enduring Gag of just listening to

35:24

someone talk about magic and magic

35:27

magic magic magic magic when it's

35:29

like when you don't know what

35:31

they're talking about That's pretty darn

35:33

good. I like that part where

35:35

we hit, where we didn't actually,

35:37

but where we did the gag.

35:39

Joe? No, I'm, oh wait, actually,

35:41

yes, tackling Joe? God, and then

35:43

the cut to Joe being interviewed

35:46

in the, like, karate studio? The

35:48

Kravmaga studio? Yeah, well, well, well,

35:50

the instructor in the background just

35:52

wails on. Meats to the groin

35:54

of the dummy? Yeah. That's also

35:56

good. I was going to say

35:58

the one where we have been

36:00

done actually, but it's a really

36:02

good special effect shot of him

36:05

getting nailed in the side of

36:07

the head with a can of

36:09

paint. That's a good one. I

36:11

like that a lot. I liked

36:13

when we were filming Ben vomiting

36:15

up the Simic's Law and I

36:17

lift my phone to start filming.

36:19

Yeah. And then you like take

36:22

it away from me, turn it

36:24

to landscape mode and hand it

36:26

back. Yeah. I like that one

36:28

a lot. I like the I

36:30

like the Gas League episode where

36:32

or the fumigation. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

36:34

Yeah. We're like James. I think

36:36

it's James. where you go away

36:38

to a Magicom but you like

36:41

forget your passport or something and

36:43

you come back and then it's

36:45

been it's only been like a

36:47

day and the whole moon base

36:49

is a wreck. Yeah I believe

36:51

that's right. Yeah yeah and like

36:53

gib is there and there's like

36:55

that there's like the the like

36:57

the very close shot of gib

37:00

like trundling around the moon base

37:02

and then there's like a man

37:04

in a hazmat suit from like

37:06

the secret door that we never

37:08

open. I don't know, there was

37:10

a lot of really good stuff.

37:12

Matt Griffiths used that clip a

37:14

lot in the 20th anniversary podcast

37:16

in the episode we were talking

37:19

about, like, the pandemic, that it's

37:21

like, this is what it was

37:23

like. Gosh. I don't know, there

37:25

was a lot of really, really,

37:27

really good stuff. I like the

37:29

one where you, Kathleen, it's another

37:31

one where you're trying to get

37:33

people ready for the pre-release, but

37:35

it's for Ixelan. You take people

37:38

to the woods and then... The

37:40

dinosaur? The dinosaur costume. Yeah. That's

37:42

very very funny. That's a good,

37:44

it's good Cameron Scream in that

37:46

episode. Yeah. And actually, because this

37:48

goes out on Monday, so the

37:50

most recent episode from the new

37:52

season that we'll have aired on

37:55

Friday was the Deck Master game.

37:57

This isn't even like a magic

37:59

joke, but I really love when

38:01

they're talking about the Loner. And

38:03

they're like, oh, it's not cursed.

38:05

No, it's cursed. No, it's not

38:07

cursed. No, it's not cursed. I

38:09

think it's cursed. It's just a

38:11

bad deck. It's not cursed. And

38:14

then there's this beat. And then

38:16

the narrator that by that point,

38:18

hopefully, you've forgotten the episode as

38:20

a... narrator just comes back in

38:22

with the lunar was cursed. Just

38:24

very, you know, very matter of

38:26

factly. I really enjoy the pacing

38:28

of that. Yeah. Next question. Next

38:30

question. Julie Rugg again asks the

38:33

same question because that's the same

38:35

question. But actually we wanted the

38:37

next question from Thresher who says,

38:39

I'm new to the game. What

38:41

are the color wedges identities for

38:43

Tarkir and who should I choose

38:45

in my pre-release? Ooh. Well, I

38:47

just tuned up all of like

38:49

what the the clans are about

38:52

now Because we're in a timeline

38:54

where they did not come to

38:56

power revering the dragons Yes, but

38:58

they had they had their cons

39:00

and now the cons have You

39:02

know what? This is actually too

39:04

deep for somebody who's new to

39:06

magic. They don't need to worry

39:09

about it. You hate the magic

39:11

story if you're interested. Let's just

39:13

talk about what the colors do.

39:15

Okay. Mardu is going to be

39:17

like that's your red, white, black

39:19

wedge. They're going to be kind

39:21

of like agro, but because the

39:23

color diversity, they're more of like

39:25

a broad-based agro strategy that is

39:28

going to want to like... attack

39:30

with multiple creatures. You're gonna make

39:32

a lot of little dudes and

39:34

you're gonna turn them sideways and

39:36

you're gonna have ways to make

39:38

your little dudes into slightly bigger

39:40

dudes. And then you kind of

39:42

like, it synergizes with losing your

39:44

little dudes. It's kind of like

39:47

an attrition strategy. You don't care

39:49

about losing a few little dudes

39:51

because you have so many little

39:53

dudes and they still trade up

39:55

for like the two or three

39:57

dudes on the other side of

39:59

the table. And when they die,

40:01

you get value, you get value.

40:03

Blue, black, green. Blue, black, green.

40:06

Speaking of value, blue, black, green,

40:08

all colors that love value. Saltai

40:10

creatures are going to be higher

40:12

on the, usually higher on the

40:14

toughness than the power. They're going

40:16

to be sort of like your

40:18

your mid range strategy, where if

40:20

the game goes a little bit

40:23

longer, your creatures start to get

40:25

a lot bigger than your opponents.

40:27

creatures and you just get the

40:29

money incremental value. You have ways

40:31

to pull things out of your

40:33

graveyard. You have ways to get

40:35

rid of their spells. You have

40:37

ways to ramp yourself in manna

40:39

so you can cast those big

40:42

expensive things faster. That is your

40:44

saltai sort of value mid range

40:46

strategy. Yeah. Absan are going to

40:48

be again kind of another. This

40:50

is green black white. Yes. Absan

40:52

has a lot of like life

40:54

train effects. Like rain and life

40:56

gain and walls like defenders like

40:58

Absan does a lot of sort

41:01

of shoring things up and like

41:03

sort of Absan goes whoa now

41:05

yeah Absan wants to slow things

41:07

down and then build up its

41:09

own resources and then pummel you

41:11

with big things. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

41:13

by old heads. Alex Stacey, our

41:15

friend, once described it very aptly

41:17

as building a shipping container of

41:20

value that is slowly lowered onto

41:22

your opponent. Yeah. Crushing them. Yeah.

41:24

Right. Like all of your dudes

41:26

are just kind of like a

41:28

little bit better than everyone else's

41:30

or a little bit cheaper for

41:32

what their stat line is. And

41:34

it's just kind of like... local

41:37

superiority distributed across the entire battlefield.

41:39

Yeah. Teamer is green red blue

41:41

and Teamer tends to operate on

41:43

sort of like mid-sized creatures supported

41:45

by supported and protected by spells.

41:47

So like, you know, you've got

41:49

like a decent sort of green

41:51

creature. and then you can spend

41:53

a red spell to make the

41:56

creature bigger and scarier and a

41:58

blue spell to stop your opponent

42:00

from hurting it. I guess would

42:02

be a very... simplistic way of

42:04

looking at Teamer. Teamer can do

42:06

big spell stuff as well, but

42:08

they have a they have a

42:10

ground supportive reliable beasties. Yeah, Teamer

42:12

is big things that want to,

42:15

like all of these things are

42:17

aggressive, right? But Teamer is like

42:19

probably the biggest punchiest wedge, right?

42:21

Yeah, Mard is the lowest and

42:23

most aggressive. Yeah. And then Teamer

42:25

is like... Teamer is going to

42:27

be like the Timmy kind of

42:29

deck. Sorry. Yeah, if you want

42:31

to make big cool monsters and

42:34

then leverage those monsters to put

42:36

your opponent in the ground, Teamer

42:38

might be the color for you.

42:40

And finally, Jess Guy, which is

42:42

white blue red, which has a

42:44

lot of spellcraft and flying and.

42:46

Their creatures tend to be kind

42:48

of small, but they get bigger

42:51

with the spells that are cast.

42:53

Yeah, prowess. Prowis. Yeah. They have

42:55

access to the best flyers, the

42:57

most flyers in the game. Yeah.

42:59

Sorry, that was me cutting in.

43:01

I'm trying to find what the

43:03

mythic spoiler is, if there's any,

43:05

like, spoilers or previews out for

43:07

the new set yet, and there

43:10

aren't really, are there? There's not,

43:12

there's not been a lot. Because

43:14

like, the thing is, I don't,

43:16

like, it's hard to speculate on

43:18

exactly what they're going to do.

43:20

And it's, it's also worth noting.

43:22

Mardu, you might get a lot

43:24

of cards that were meant for

43:26

Absan, which will still have a

43:29

home in your deck because they

43:31

share the white and black color

43:33

identities. So like when we say

43:35

that Mardu is generally small creatures

43:37

that are aggressive and Absan are

43:39

like mid-range creatures that have a

43:41

more grindy strategy to them, there's

43:43

interplay between those two. So don't,

43:45

don't, don't, don't get too fixated

43:48

on the watermark on the watermark

43:50

on the card. Yeah, exactly. And

43:52

you got a thing. So say

43:54

you're playing Mardu. You can also

43:56

look at your packs, Jess Guy,

43:58

that's two of your colors. Yeah,

44:00

yeah. So a little aggressive red

44:02

white guy in Jess Guy may

44:04

have slightly different flavoring than a

44:07

Mardue aggressive red white guy. Like

44:09

maybe the Jess Guy one flies

44:11

and the Mardue one flies and

44:13

the Mardue one, you know, gets

44:15

for strike on your turn. I

44:17

don't know what these cards do. Yeah,

44:19

we haven't seen the set yet. This

44:22

is just general vibes. But you can

44:24

definitely look in that and say, are

44:26

these the colors that I have access

44:28

to. Yeah, like a Jesskai deck

44:30

might get more value out of

44:32

like a lightning helix, like a

44:34

damage spell, right, in red and

44:37

white, but that's still gonna clear

44:39

the board for a Mardu deck

44:41

to get in. Yeah, maybe you

44:43

don't care about the prowess

44:45

trigger, but you care about dealing

44:48

the three damage to opponent's

44:50

creature. Right. So there you go. Hope

44:53

that helped. Reminder that for

44:55

your... Tarkier Dragon Storm pre-release

44:57

that atypically you get to

45:00

choose your clan while supplies

45:02

last I assume and rather than

45:04

six booster packs of Dragons

45:07

of Tarkier not dragons to

45:09

Tarkier Tarkier Dragon Storm rather than

45:11

six packs of that you get

45:14

five packs of that and then

45:16

one pack that is seated for

45:18

your So you get what you want. For

45:20

your clan of choice that will probably,

45:22

based on previous things, I don't know

45:25

what's in the new ones, but based

45:27

on previous things, it'll probably have like

45:29

a triland or some other like thing

45:31

that will definitely go in your deck and

45:34

then a bunch of creatures that might go

45:36

in your deck. Creatures and spells that might

45:38

go in your deck. And then a rarer

45:41

of some kind. Yeah. Next question. It's a

45:43

really good one. I bet it is.

45:45

From Lord time for a new

45:47

bit buddy hosk. What's the best

45:49

two-man a black sorcery with a

45:51

six-man a flashback cost in all

45:53

of magic? Is it bump in

45:56

the night? I believe that would

45:58

be bump in the night. Two men? I

46:00

thought bump only cost one. Oh,

46:02

yeah, no bump the night's only

46:04

one. Oh wait. So wait, what's

46:06

Hask talking about? Oh my god.

46:08

I think Hask messed up his

46:10

own joke. Which I, wow. I

46:13

was so primed for that. And

46:15

then I was like, two mana.

46:17

Yeah, no. Is there a card

46:19

that fits his definition? I don't

46:21

know. I'm pulling out scryfall right

46:23

now. I do not know how

46:26

to use scryfall well enough to

46:28

figure that one out. Wait, black

46:30

is exactly these colors. Yeah, it

46:32

costs. Two. Two. Two. And then

46:34

flashback in the rules text. Right?

46:36

Yeah. If it lets you type.

46:39

Sometimes scryfall on mobile just won't

46:41

invoke the keyboard. Sets criteria. No,

46:43

like near the top, there's a

46:45

thing for rules text. It's like

46:47

the second or third one down.

46:49

So flashback in there. So yeah,

46:52

black flashback with man-of-value two. Yeah,

46:54

this is gonna return like maybe

46:56

a handful of cards. Yeah. Okay.

46:58

And then- Wait, how do I

47:00

make, wait, man-of-value is equal to-

47:02

Yeah. Not, man-of-value is too generic.

47:05

Watch millennials go on the internet.

47:07

Search with these options. Okay. How

47:09

many are there? We've got three.

47:11

Okay, okay. Hosk, you're getting what

47:13

you wanted here. Okay, so there's

47:15

chainers edict. Oh, target, yeah, sacrifice

47:18

is a creature, flashback seven. That's

47:20

an instant though. That's true. It's

47:22

a sorcery. Oh, it's sorcery. Yeah,

47:24

no, chainers edict, I think, it

47:26

clears. Now, did Hosk's question say

47:28

flashback cost of six? Yes, he

47:31

did. Okay, well, okay. Bad news,

47:33

eviscerators in sight is a two-manna,

47:35

it looks from, it's one of

47:37

them Eldrazi in Estradi things, I

47:39

think. I don't know what said

47:41

this is. Oh, that's modern horizon.

47:44

Yeah, that's MH3. Oh, okay. Eviscerators

47:46

in sight. As an additional cost

47:48

to cast the spell, sacrifice and

47:50

artifact or creature. draw two cards

47:52

flashback of five. So the flashback's

47:54

wrong and this is an instant.

47:57

And then what's our third option?

47:59

Oh, their third option is a

48:01

sorcery. Uh-huh. It's morgue theft. What?

48:03

It's from on slot, it looks

48:05

like. One in a black. The

48:07

O.G. flashback? Return target, creature card

48:09

from your graveyard to your hand,

48:12

flashback of five. That's on. Is

48:14

that on slot? Odyssey. Odyssey. Odyssey.

48:16

Odyssey. Yeah. Damn it. I don't

48:18

know why you're upset. I guess

48:20

this is a question that has

48:22

no answer. Yeah, I mean, maybe

48:25

you should design one, Hosk. I

48:27

mean, I feel like we're going

48:29

with chainers edict, though. Like, it

48:31

doesn't. Yeah, I mean, like, given

48:33

the parameters, I think chainers edict

48:35

comes the closest to being... A

48:38

two man of black spell with

48:40

flashback. Yeah. And is also a

48:42

legitimately good card. Yes. Yeah. And

48:44

is also a legitimately good card.

48:46

Yes. That's going to do it

48:48

for tap to have continued this

48:51

week. I want to remind everybody

48:53

that you yourself can get a

48:55

copy of Chainer's edik probably from

48:57

cardking.com/LRR You can use their decked

48:59

builder to throw a whole deck

49:01

list in there and it'll show

49:04

you a whole It'll show you

49:06

all the cards and give you

49:08

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49:10

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49:12

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49:43

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49:45

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49:47

chainers edicts at near mint available.

49:49

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49:51

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49:53

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49:56

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49:58

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50:00

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