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Perplexity is on an absolute tear and
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is in talks according to sources that
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are familiar with the matter to raise
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one billion dollars. This is absolutely
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insane. I feel like we've seen of
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the top AI companies, they're able to
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do round after round of funding as
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long as they can show positive user
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growth. There's a handful of these companies
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that are really showing themselves as the
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winner. Perplexity is 100% one of these and
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I've been absolutely blown away by the fact that
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they may not be best known for like... you
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know a foundation model chat gPT although I think
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they have like some of their own tech that
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they'll say they they mix in there but as
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far as being like a quote unquote gPT wrapper
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that a lot of people criticize or make
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fun of well they're raising a billion dollars
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so they're doing a fantastic job they do
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a lot of cool stuff so today on
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the podcast I want to be diving into
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what they're doing with that billion dollars how
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they were able to actually achieve that and
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raise that money and Also, what I think
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this means for the industry going forward in
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the future. So stick around, this is going
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to be a great episode. Before we get
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right, let's get into what's going
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on with perplexity. So the first
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thing is, of course, like the
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big headline is like, oh my
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gosh, they're raising a billion dollars.
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Their valuation is an $18 billion
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valuation. All things considered, like the
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equity they're giving up for a
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billion dollars, is not that much.
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This is really on this, their
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annual revenue and annual recurring revenue
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just came out and it has
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now reached a hundred million dollars.
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So it's interesting, I mean, a
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hundred million dollars in annual recurring
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revenue, if everything froze today, you'd
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say in 10 years they would
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make a billion dollars, they would
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make a billion dollars, obviously
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they're seeing rapid growth and
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that's why they're able to get
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such a high evaluation, so I
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think that's pretty impressive. This has
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went up a ton. This is almost
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double their current valuation.
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So in December, if you
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remember, not very long ago,
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December they raised at a
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$9 billion valuation. And now in...
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April, they are in April, sorry, of last
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year. So we're going to 2024. I
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mean, we're coming to the end of
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March right now, so this is literally
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one year after they reached a billion
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dollar valuation April of 2024 that it
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around there. So one year after a
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billion dollar valuation, they're raising a billion
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dollar cash at $18 billion valuation. This
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is. really, really rapid growth. There's a
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couple things that I think contribute to
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the rapid growth. And of course, this
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is all coming as there's a bunch
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of rumors of a, you know, going around essentially,
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that there is some new competition
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in the AI-powered search space. We
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see Claude adding search, but I really
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believe that's one of the reasons
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why perplexity has actually stayed in
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the market so long has been
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so successful, is because Anthropropics Claude.
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for better or for worse, they
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kind of were like, oh, for
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safety reasons, we want to create
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a contained AI model, we don't
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want to get it out into
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the world. And so, Claude, you
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know, the big competitor, ChatGPT, literally
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did not have internet access. Proplexity
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absolutely exploited this from day one,
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absolutely exploded this from day one,
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literally exploded this from day
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one, literally exploited this from day
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one, branding, and now it's kind
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of interesting if you'll see. revenue
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or usage dip because of that. I'm
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sure perplexity has got a lot of
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things in the works to continue to
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grow, but like that is something I
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think to be aware of. But they
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really milked that at a time when even
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ChatGPT was on and off with their web
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browsing because you know the New York Times
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was suing them for showing like, you
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know, getting behind, like you could essentially
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go and post a, a Paywall New
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York Times article and ChatGIP would like
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summarize it and read it and read it
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to people and read it to people.
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their web browsing off so there's kind
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of been back and forth and Google's
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slow to the game some would argue
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so perplexity really got in this from
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the beginning and because of that I
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think did quite well so I think
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with everything coming into focus this
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is going to definitely be heating up
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a lot of competition you know right
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now its core market is getting
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much more crowded and because of this
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and perplexity has actually teased a couple
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new things. And I think this is
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kind of what they're fundraising on, right?
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When you look at these companies doing
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like a billion dollar fundraising round, you
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know that it's coming from, like, they're
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showing investors something that's not publicly available.
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It's very common, I think, with a lot
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of like the big AI companies that I've
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looked at recently, right as they, like
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they'll kind of do like a big new
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feature announcement, along with a funding announcement. So
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like, hey, we just, you know. Release the ability
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to do this super cool new voice model
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thing and we also just raised 20 million
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dollars They kind of do them in tangent
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and I think it's smart from a branding
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perspective because It's like the news of you know raising
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20 million dollars is definitely going to get out
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there And then they can kind of add their
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new feature on but the thing that I think
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not a lot of people think about is the
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fact that Whatever that new feature was is how
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they got the money. They've been talking to investors
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about it for the last, you know, three to
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six months, however long they did their crowdfunding or
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however long they did their fundraising for. And so,
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you know, you can assume they probably had a
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really cool feature for three months. They don't want
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to just release it and then maybe the feature
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flops or I guess that's kind of a pessimistic
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way to say it. like raising money is all
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about hype. So if they can go to investors
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and say, look at this absolutely incredible
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in-house tool or in-house feature rebuilt, it
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blows all the competitors out of the
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water, we're about to release this, get
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in your funding now because once we
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release it, we're gonna go parabolic.
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This is essentially how these AI companies
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are raising money. And so it's interesting to
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me to see how people are. pairing up
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new feature teases or announcements with these crowdfunding.
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So the new tease out of perplexity is
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they're kind of talking about this $1 billion,
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which no doubt a lot of times the
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teas or the like the leaks are coming
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from investors that see the pitch deck and
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then like share it with reporters. This is
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how a lot of the stuff gets. I
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kind of leaked. Is that a perplexity is
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working on launching a quote unquote agentic browser
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that they're going to call comment. So comment.
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So this is very interesting. dominated this AI
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search space to the point where some people
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are saying, oh, they're going to be a
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competitor to Google. And if you look at
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the actual like usage of web search. You know
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you can kind of see the market like
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Google is not really losing any ground to
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perplexity perplexity is a very tiny You know
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one two percent of the whole search market
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or something very small But people are saying
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but I mean for an you know an
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incumbent like this is actually quite impressive for
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a small startup to get there And so
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now that they're now that they've reached that
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the next place that they're looking at is
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actually owning the browser so if they can
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make an impressive browser like this an agentic
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browser can do all these in a giganticic
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But if they can create a browser that
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people are switching to, then all of a
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sudden starts to threaten perhaps Google Chrome, and
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people will just use this, they're gonna start
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expanding their footprint that way. So I think
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this is very smart. This is what they've
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been teasing. They're also ramping up their enterprise
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offering, so they're working a lot more with
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companies. I have seen a ton of universities,
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for example, using perplexity in a lot of
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people. They have a deal essentially where if
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you get like. uh... you know fifty people at your
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university to sign up for clod then everybody
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at your university gets it for free for
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a year or something like that or sorry
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not clod for perplexity and i think this
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is absolutely genius is a great
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marketing this thing isn't probably insanely expensive and their
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cost their acquisition cost plus they know that if
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they're at universities are people that are going to
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go into the workforce most likely and probably be
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power users so I think this is really smart
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they've done a lot of this with enterprise with
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universities they have a lot of these kind of
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offerings they're ramping up and they are they've recently
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launched an AI search engine that helps essentially businesses
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get information from their internal documents. So they're pulling
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out all this new stuff. I think the internal
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documents thing is really cool. If you have a
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bunch of internal documents to your company that obviously
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are online, you can't ask chatGPT about them. Now
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you can ask perplexity about them. And you can
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tie perplexity into chat, GPT, Claude, Mistrol, and every
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other AI model. So I think perplexity is doing
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something very, very good there. And I'm really excited
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to see how this new fundraen. how they're actually
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able to raise that, what the new features are.
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And so cool stuff coming out of perplexity. I'll
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definitely keep you up today on all of that.
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