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on Tropic Time now. Allison
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Rosen, do you want
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to wave your
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hands again? Allison Rosen,
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Allison's your new best
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friend. Hey
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everyone, hi, hello. Welcome to
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an extremely special episode of
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Allison Rosen is your new
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best friend live from Japan
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and yes I did
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change a word. Normally I say it's a very
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special episode. This time I had to go above
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and then say it's an extremely special episode because
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as I said we are on location we are
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in Yokohama as
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I speak we are sitting on a
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hotel bed it's late at night
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the children are asleep Wendy
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is in an animal hospital I will
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explain hello Daniel Quants welcome our dog
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is in the shop yeah
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that's right okay all right
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can I be can
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I peel the curtain back for the audience peel
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away so this is the second
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time trying this we we had a
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little marital tiff it's all it's okay
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everybody it's okay one of those tips
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by the way when I say tiff I
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think TIFF Toronto International Film Festival oh
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yeah that's right what do you think I
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was gonna say is there like a file format that's
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a tiff I
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think so because I think we had
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a marital JPEG yeah I feel like
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we had a marital h e i c
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yuck what is that it's like what
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When I airdrop a photo from
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my phone to my computer
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so that I can put it on
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sub-stack, which by the way, this is
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a plug within appealing back the curtain.
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If you're not subscribed to my sub-stack,
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get on there. I mean, if you
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are curious. What are you even doing
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with your life? If you are curious
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about the whole me
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on the Corolla show of it all,
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I have been, I mean, this is
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appealing back the curtain inside the curtain
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of infinite curtain
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peels. This is like that Bjork
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video. Sure, it's
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like the end of the hills. No, but do you remember
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that Bjork video where the Michelle Gondry one where it was
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like, it's like black and white
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and she writes a book and then
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it gets adapted into a play, but the play is
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her writing a book that's getting adapted into a
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play. No, but that sounds really cool. Oh, it's brilliant.
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It's one of the, yeah, anyway, look it up.
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What song is it, do you know? I
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don't remember the name of the song, but
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it's one of the greats. Folks, folks.
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It's one of the greats. It's one of the greats. I
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would like to see that, but anyway, yeah. I've
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been telling that story on my sub-stack. I also
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went into quite a bit of detail about why
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we're on this trip and all that stuff on
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sub-stack. And, but then I was like,
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but I can't leave my
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patroons. That's what I, that's
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the. That's what she calls you.
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Peeling back the curtain of the curtain of the curtain. That's
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right. And then publicly I say
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Patreon people, but when I say, but to Daniel, I
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say, I got to upload a patroon. Yes,
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she does do that. So I can't
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leave my patroons out in the cold.
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So I wrote a post with a
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ton of pictures and I uploaded that
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to patroon. I've never gone, I've never
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been public about patroon. Here
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we are though. There's
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no turning back now. So
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anyway, yeah, so get on all
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of that. But anyway, yeah, that's
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an HEIC file. Okay, so anyway,
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as Daniel was saying, we
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had a little P.N.J. It's
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just a silly little thing, but silly
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little Yeah, we were recording
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this show and when we started that
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version of it you had
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asked me to Translate
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the name of the show into Japanese
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and on the fly Yeah Oh,
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yeah with a little a lot
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of hesitancy because I'm not fluent in Japanese with
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a couple bopping your nose in your head With
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the microphone to help you think Which
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is how I think you can hear you
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can literally hear him think although you won't
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ever hear that episode unless I upload it
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to a Formention patroon. I'm just honey. I'm
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like a I'm one of those like audio
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based performance artists. I need to oh, yeah
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I had percussion with my mic technique.
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Yeah And
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then you rudely expected me to sing
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it. I Didn't
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rudely expect you Opportunity
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sorry, no, no you you you
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vocalized it in a rude way. Let's just say
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that Anyway, here you
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go I'll
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sing it. Okay, great Addison
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Rosen, wha? Wait
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now. I'm okay started before I thought about it. Addison
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Rosen, wha? Atari
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she moto II Tom
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a chi This
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I love it I Love
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it. I don't I probably got that wrong
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Like I'm there might be a syllable
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like a character here or there that
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I got wrong, but yeah, no, that's pretty good Daniel
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has done so Daniel has done well
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with the Japanese conversations my note. Did
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you know that I have a note
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for you? You
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don't have enough you what is it my
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note is You're
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too Hesitant to start
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conversations with people in Japanese because you
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do really well when you're having these
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conversations But I have to push you
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to like go ask that person person
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this or you know I've got a
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little well she I like I like
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lady make that thing your Japanese because
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I can't really do conversational Japanese I've
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only been taking lessons since like February
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yeah I mean I can I can
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do only like you can only do Duolingo
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Japanese well but I mean I can only
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do basic stuff
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yeah I know but these aren't conversational conversations
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these are just like I'm looking
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for this can you help me find it well
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but even that is it can be
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like I can ask
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for something but then their answer may not
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make any sense yeah I know because I
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don't know all my directions and there's like
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there's all these words that
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mean you know that can mean you know go up
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these stairs or you know go left and then up
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and then right and then down or this is next
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to that or that is in it and
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in Japanese like the sentence structure is
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all that it's very kind of hard
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wrap your head around because here you'll
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you'll say you know this
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is close to that but
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in Japanese you would say like like
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this this is that
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close to is it's
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it's just and so though the answer
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in your base like what so no
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just to illustrate that I
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received a bunch of papers from
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the animal clinic so we had
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to pay a surgery deposit and
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a hospitalization deposit neither of
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these were refundable but they're like the
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surgery deposit goes towards the cost of surgery
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the hospitalization deposit goes towards the cost of
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a hospitalization so they handed
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me five sheets paper each one
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numbered but it's like number
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five is the itemized bill
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this deducted it's
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like This is
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deducted from one and two.
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One and two being the deposit. And so I
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am, I can't make heads or
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tails. We have a negative total at this
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point. And I don't know if they give that back to us
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or it's just applied. I don't know what it is, but like,
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but sorry, all of this is a very convoluted
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way of saying their
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sentence structure is convoluted because they're saying
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this is deducted from that, but it
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doesn't work mathematically to do that the
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way we think of it. Did
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we wait, but did
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we explain why, maybe it was obvious
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why we can't upload our TIFF? Because
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I thought we could mine the TIFF for content
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and it would be fun and just,
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you know. Sometimes it's fun. But then
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it just turned into, it was just
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too. A couple of being annoying at each other. Well,
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it was just like, how stressful is it to
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listen to two people fight? Because that's what
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it was. It wasn't a fight, it's just.
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People not getting along. There needs to be
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another word because when I think of fight,
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I think of couples fighting
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with my mom and my stepdad fighting. Yeah, or my
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parents. And we don't fight like that. No, no, no.
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But we'll go
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back and forth. There just needs to be another
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term for it. Because there's nothing like. Podcast. Just
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good radio. I
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don't know. Anyway, that's all it was. It
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was just annoying. And it was over stupid shit that you
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don't wanna hear about. So anyway, speaking of stupid shit. Can
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we just tell them what it was about? It
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was about a glass of water. I
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had a new glass of water. And Daniel
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threw out my water. She was really. And
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then I felt that he was. Okay,
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let's not relitigate. Not being respectful. Let's not relitigate.
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Me and he felt any way. Just
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know this, just know this folks. Just
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know I'm drinking water. Just know this. I
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was right. That's all you got in there. Tony
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just hang on
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hang on you're just
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sticking with DQ you'll be alright when
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you start when you start siding with
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Allison that's when things go sideways water
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can suck a dick I don't like it that
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much so anyway let's just
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start at the beginning
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Daniel how
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far in the beginning are we going back
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to 1973 Tucson
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Arizona no um
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let's see the okay so
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we're in Yokohama we're in
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Yokohama which is
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next to Tokyo yes
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it is not charming it's like
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a business center yeah I read that
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it's like more like a European city
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than other cities I was expecting people
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had said Japan's like another planet another
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country it's like the moon Yokohama
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is not it's just like any other city
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granted most people here
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are Japanese there's a lot of Japanese spoke
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you're gonna really only Japanese spoken but
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it was like a port city and
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has always had more of an international
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you know a lot of international
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like people you know from all over it's a
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it's kind of like a business you
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know like a lot of tall buildings
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and just business folks salary men salary
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men is what they call them in
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Japan can we share it
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just is it's just much more of a like an
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international modern city you could be anywhere
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LFH is that what it's called there's
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a term that I learned
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that Japanese it's a Japanese
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people have for like
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white mostly American I
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bet British guys fit into this too
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who come over here and date
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Japanese girls and they're
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called LFH is or LBH
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is losers
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back home I
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haven't seen any LFH is though I've been on the
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we don't look But yeah, but we don't
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see a lot of white or tour
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this is not an area this is like It's
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mostly Japanese people where we have you
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begun to have the same thing You
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know, I just said this is a very
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international place. This is how we know that
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I'm acclimating to the culture When
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I see Americans or
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when I see white people I think Well,
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that's because most Americans we see our if is
12:28
it that or is it that I'm just beginning to?
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Have been kind of like Well,
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that's what I'm saying What's
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up with that? Well because I think that
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if you're not maybe you're in Tokyo. You're
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in Kyoto You're in Okinawa. You think it's
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that or do you think maybe? When
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you're outside of America for long enough you begin
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to see Americans or just they could be European
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I don't know for who they are. No,
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you think that there's just a special because when
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I'm it like I'm in America And I look
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at Americans like oh, I feel like
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I'm having it more here Because you
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might see someone who's American if you're
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you know If
13:07
you're in a foreign country you might see someone from home
13:09
and think oh my god, it's over from home But instead
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I just think oh, well, I mean, I
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guess it depends on your like
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mine mine is like You're
13:19
what you suck Okay,
13:21
well, but but I want they're not like
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stylish or you know, like The
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you don't look I don't look I haven't seen anyone Any
13:32
white people I've looked at them and gone like look
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at that, you know Cool
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or young or energetic or
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attractive what about me jet-setting?
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Yeah, I include you know a Person
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I just think You
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know my wife I'm Yeah
13:52
her again Tony, please
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make a drop of my wife.
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It's the opposite of my wife.
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Mm-hmm. My wife Okay,
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this brings me to a question I wanted to
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ask you, Daniel. And I wanted to go through
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this, you know, chronologically, but
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I'm jumping around. The
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day of Wendy's surgery, which was Tuesday, I don't
14:13
know why they need, it was the 23rd, the
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day of her surgery. The her surgery was like
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four, it was a long, intense,
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crazy, emotional
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day, which I'll get to, but
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we had a few hours to kill in the middle
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between when they had taken her in and when we
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were going to come back and, you know, find out
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how it went and stuff.
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So we went to Shibuya, which is
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Shibuya crossing, which is the, which
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by the way, is this a claim to fame? It's
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the busiest cross. It's a very, it's very intersection in
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the world. It's iconic. It's like, you
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know, it's in every, whenever you see
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a movie in Tokyo, they look like
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rats running across. Whenever it's like, we're
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in Tokyo. That's it's like the times
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square of Tokyo. It's
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yeah. It's that place where the
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crosswalk with the diagonal and every
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million people. Very crowded. So anyway,
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and we went to the store called Don Quixote.
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Don Quixote. It's a chain. Oh yeah. It's a
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chain. It's sort of like their womb. It's
15:11
it's it is a tourist destination, even
15:13
though you think you
15:16
might be thinking to yourself, why did
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they go to the Walmart of Japan?
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The Don Quixote's hashtag. Yeah. Like
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the, well, I don't know
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who cares. But like if that there
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are Don Quixote's that are in areas
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where it's just like a treated
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like a Walmart. But this one,
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because it's it's right off of
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Shibuya Crossing happens to be like
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particularly tourist. Right. I was curious
15:42
about all the different skincare and cosmetics and
15:44
things like that. And they also had like
15:46
a thousand snacks, but they also
15:49
had when you first walk in, it
15:51
smells delicious like pancakes. And
15:53
they had these things which are like they
15:56
look like big coins and it's dough
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on the outside and It's
16:01
a waffle on the outside
16:03
and mozzarella on the middle. But
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it looks like a coin. Yeah, it's like
16:07
a quarter or something. I
16:10
don't actually know what currency it is. It's
16:12
like 10 yen. But you knew about it and you
16:14
said, oh, it's this, it's this famous coin cheese. A
16:16
thing that had gone viral, I
16:21
mean, clearly there was a shop that was doing this. I
16:23
guess they've made it, like they've expanded
16:26
to kiosks or whatever at Don Quixote,
16:28
but there was like these
16:30
long lines of people waiting for these
16:32
things. It was kind of a thing. Waiting for
16:34
their coin cheese. So anyway, Daniel said,
16:37
let's splurge for the coin cheese. I
16:39
mean- Cheese coin, coin cheese. What is it called? Yeah,
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I don't even know. On our way out. I
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just figured like it was easy to
16:47
get. When in Shibuya. And something I'd
16:49
seen that God went viral. Well, check
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it out, right? Yes, but the people behind
16:53
us, were
16:56
American. Were they? Yeah.
16:59
Well, I don't know. They were white. They
17:01
were big old yuck. And
17:05
they were even getting that thing that you pointed out
17:07
was supposed to be good, which is like a little
17:09
skewer that has candied fruit on
17:11
it. And I was tempted to say
17:13
to them, how is it? And
17:16
then the guy behind you for the
17:19
longest time, I don't know why he
17:21
was waiting. Oh, cause he hadn't received his cheese coin yet.
17:23
Long as I was noticing, you're
17:27
not talking to him. Is
17:29
that on purpose? I'm not talking to who?
17:32
You could strike up a conversation with this
17:34
guy. He's American. Are you curious?
17:36
What are you doing here? I was not even aware
17:38
of him. I was watching them make the
17:41
cheese coins. There was some,
17:43
maybe it's somewhere else. And there's, I definitely
17:45
noticed somewhere where you were, it
17:48
seemed to me very deliberately not
17:51
having the like, Oh, you're American. Are you American?
17:53
Ah, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know
17:55
any other circumstances, but I will say this. So,
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first of all, there's a lot
18:05
of great things that I think are
18:07
great things about Japan and Japanese
18:10
culture, and there are
18:12
some negatives. If
18:14
I end up saying too much of one or the other, don't think that
18:17
I'm not aware of the other. One
18:20
of the negatives about Japanese culture, in
18:22
my opinion, is how shy everyone is
18:24
and how
18:30
reserved. They
18:33
don't make eye contact and everyone just keeps to
18:35
themselves and it's rude to just look
18:42
at someone in the eyes or to strike.
18:48
In order to be polite in their
18:50
culture, I'm in this mode of just
18:52
not engaging with other people. I'm
18:55
doing that with everybody. I'm
18:57
not saying, oh, there's an American, I'm
18:59
going to strike up a conversation with them. So
19:02
I think that might be part of it.
19:04
Part of it also is I'm just misanthropic.
19:07
I'm not the type of person that looks like... It's
19:10
circumstantial, but in that situation, it's like, I
19:13
don't give a fuck. I'm
19:15
waiting for a cheese coin. What
19:18
am I going to ask them? Hey, did
19:20
you get any nail clippers in there? Those
19:22
nail clippers are pretty neat, aren't they? Tell
19:24
them why the nail clippers are neat. Because
19:26
all the nail clippers in Japan have catchers
19:29
built into them. So you're not
19:31
spraying nail clippings around
19:34
like shrapnel. Like, duh,
19:37
why? That's
19:40
the good side of Japan. Two more weird things
19:43
about Japan, not that I would call the nail
19:45
clipper things weird, that's just innovative. The
19:48
crosswalks don't have buttons and
19:50
they take a long time. You
19:52
listen, Pen Especially when it's
19:55
90 degrees, 90% humidity. It's
19:57
like walking around in soup. very
20:00
hot. We
20:02
were caught in the rain yesterday and it was
20:04
refreshing. But yeah, so the
20:06
crosswalks don't have buttons, but the elevators
20:09
do have door, they have door close buttons
20:11
and they work and you have to press
20:13
them. Or else the elevator will
20:15
just stay there. The, oh you're talking about the open and
20:18
close buttons that are just... Oh sorry, yeah, I didn't make
20:20
that clear. They're just performative in... They're just
20:22
for decoration in... Well they make you feel like you
20:24
have agency. Yes, but here, because I pressed the button
20:26
and I was just standing there like, uh, what's going
20:28
on? Why is the elevator not working? And the guy
20:30
said we have to hit the door close button. You
20:33
don't always have to push it, but it definitely...
20:35
Well how do you know when you have to?
20:38
Well, if the door isn't closing, you could push
20:40
the door close button and it'll close. Which
20:44
is what was happening. Well now we know. So
20:47
anyway, for anyone who doesn't
20:49
know, but I feel like everyone knows, but if
20:51
anyone doesn't know, we came
20:53
to Japan to get surgery for Wendy, our
20:55
beloved dog. There's a clinic here that does...
20:57
Did I already share this in this episode
21:00
or was it in the episode where we
21:02
nearly got divorced? I think we've talked about
21:04
it, so maybe just give them the Cliffsnuts.
21:08
Heart surgery clinic here who pioneered it
21:10
has very good success rates. So
21:13
the first many days...
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Well no, the first
21:18
day, so we were still heavily jet
21:20
lagged, we had our pre-op appointment, and
21:24
I was in the car,
21:26
we took a tab there and I was looking at my
21:29
phone and then I thought, bitch, what
21:31
are you doing? How many times are you
21:33
in a car in Japan and you're going
21:35
to be looking at threads? Get
21:38
a grip, girlfriend. Pretty lame.
21:42
Oh, pretty lame. So I put my phone down and I
21:44
looked at the window for a little while and then eventually
21:46
I looked at my phone again, but you get what I'm
21:48
saying. I'm trying to live in the moment. Got
21:52
there and it
21:55
turned out that Wendy's
21:57
heart was a lot worse
22:00
than we realized which sounds silly because of
22:02
course we realized her heart was pretty bad
22:05
that's why we're here but it
22:07
was like the doctor there
22:09
said that Wendy could go into heart
22:11
failure like any second she was worried
22:13
about her going into heart failure before
22:15
the surgery in a few days because
22:18
if she was in active heart failure
22:20
she wouldn't be able to have the
22:22
surgery but she'd
22:25
be able to have it at a later date but that I
22:27
was just like oh there's no way we are turning
22:30
around without her having the surgery
22:32
and she asked me if I had
22:35
any experience giving shots now this is
22:37
where I shine yeah you're
22:39
good at giving shots that's for sure well I've
22:42
given so many shots to myself during
22:44
IVF so she gave me three syringes
22:46
of medicine to give to Wendy if
22:49
well to give her one but two in
22:51
case I mess up if she goes into
22:53
heart failure they up she's on a heart
22:56
medication they upped the frequency of that they
22:58
added a diuretic I had an
23:00
alarm on my phone I was giving her from
23:03
that point forward we couldn't really do much because
23:05
I was giving her medicine four times a day
23:07
and it just felt
23:09
very sad and scary
23:12
and like they showed us
23:14
an x-ray x-ray ultra I
23:16
don't know her heart it was like a
23:18
video they said her well but that was
23:20
the echocardi that was the Doppler thing where
23:22
it showed us the regurgitation of blood but
23:24
no I just mean it must have been
23:26
an x-ray where we just saw how huge
23:28
her heart was her heart was like I
23:32
don't know it's like pressing against her like
23:34
windpipe and like almost cutting
23:36
her air off her heart was just
23:38
huge and then also I love
23:44
our cardiologist in
23:47
America our dog cardiologist however
23:49
the clinic here and I
23:51
think that different countries do it different ways
23:54
Japan probably does it the best if
23:56
it were up to them she would have been on more medicine
24:00
and different medicine as well. So then it
24:02
made me, and for
24:04
some reason I just, and you guys have listened to me long
24:06
enough to know, I hate the feeling
24:09
of doubting someone
24:11
that I put my trust in. And
24:14
so I hate this feeling of like,
24:16
oh God, could things have been different
24:18
if we had had someone different advising
24:20
us or prescribing? That being said, like
24:22
I love our cardiologist, but I, whatever,
24:25
for whatever reason, she
24:27
should have been on more meds. Because
24:30
what she was on wasn't controlling it. But so
24:32
anyway, there was no reason
24:34
she couldn't have the surgery though, as long as she
24:36
didn't go into heart failure. So I
24:39
just didn't realize how precarious it all
24:41
was. It just felt very precarious. Yeah,
24:45
it was definitely, it was
24:47
definitely a nervous few
24:49
days, and then she had her surgery, and that was,
24:51
it was
24:54
good to go to Shibuya because it
24:56
was incredibly distracting. Yeah. And
25:00
then, and then
25:03
the recovery was harrowing a little bit, because
25:05
then, you know. Let's tell them about, okay,
25:09
so we got there at 8 a.m. with
25:11
old Wendy. They didn't take her
25:14
in until like 11.30, I think? Is
25:17
this the more interesting thing, telling them
25:19
about that or talking about Japan? Talking
25:21
about, well, okay fine. Because you've shared
25:24
a lot of this with
25:26
your whatever your patrons. Right?
25:30
No, I haven't done a Patreon episode for Japan yet. Oh, okay,
25:33
all right, all right. Tuck
25:35
in for me to repeat this, guys. Sorry.
25:38
So they took her back at like 11, and
25:45
then they said to come back at 3.30.
25:50
And that's when the doctor would talk to us
25:53
around then. We
25:56
got back at 3, and they didn't
25:58
call us. They didn't. talk to
26:00
us until five. So the whole time I'm just like,
26:02
what did she dies in surgery? What did she does
26:04
in surgery? What if she does in her surgery? And
26:06
then I'm thinking like, well, I think if something bad's
26:08
gonna happen, it would happen at the beginning. I mean,
26:11
I'm just doing all this extra thinking
26:13
that isn't tied to reality. Like I think if
26:15
something bad's gonna happen, then it would happen at
26:17
the beginning. And I'm like, or it would happen
26:19
at the end when they take her off of
26:21
bypass. If they can't get her
26:23
heart started again. At one point, we did ask.
26:26
And now we're communicating with someone who works
26:28
the hospital because there's one person who speaks
26:30
English there. So we're communicating with her via
26:32
Google Translate. And she holds up her phone
26:34
and it says it'll take one more hour.
26:37
And then we both have this look of like,
26:39
uh, on our face. And then she writes, everything's
26:41
going well. And that was a huge relief. So
26:43
anyway, we will get to the Japan part, I
26:45
just want to say, so all of
26:48
a sudden they came, they're like for Wendy, and they call us
26:50
back and they take us into this hallway,
26:53
where you can see into the
26:55
surgery rooms, which are enclosed in
26:57
glass. Three
27:00
Japanese people working like, like
27:03
kind of over. And
27:05
you just see this little patch of fur.
27:07
And it was the most surreal thing of
27:09
like, Oh my God,
27:12
that's Wendy. That's Wendy
27:14
on the table. Like they literally, they
27:17
stopped her heart to do the surgery like
27:19
they choose on bypass, they bypass her heart,
27:21
you know, they, her blood goes through this
27:24
machine that oxygenates it and puts it back
27:26
into her body. They stop her heart, they
27:28
do this surgery on the heart. And
27:31
then they start it back up again. And they
27:34
so her up. It's the craziest thing. I mean, like,
27:36
I know that they've been doing open heart
27:39
surgery for, you know,
27:41
a long time, right? On
27:43
people or whatever. But
27:45
it's still miraculous that that's even possible. I
27:48
know they don't do it as much on people right now.
27:50
They have more different ways
27:52
of going in and doing surgeries. But
27:55
like, just seeing, I don't
27:57
know, it was wild. What
27:59
was your? For me,
28:01
the sort of out of this
28:03
body, like otherworldly surreal aspect though of
28:06
just being like, oh, that's like
28:09
just seeing that tuft of fur because her body
28:11
was draped. So there's just a little section you
28:13
could see, but just like, oh my God, that's
28:15
her. She's unconscious on the
28:17
table there. It's weird.
28:20
And it's also, I think about it from her perspective.
28:23
You think she has one? Well, just like
28:25
how confusing this whole thing must be. Just
28:27
like, you know, she's
28:29
on a plane and what's going on and
28:31
I'm here and then all of
28:34
a sudden she's taken away and you
28:37
know, like for her
28:39
experience, she probably just like she passes out, wakes up
28:41
and she's just in this box
28:43
and she feels weird and everything's weird
28:46
and it's just weird.
28:48
I don't know. Obviously.
28:50
So they were happy with how the
28:53
surgery went though, which
28:55
was a huge relief. So we
28:57
came home, felt good about everything.
29:00
And then I, so they use, there's this app they
29:02
use to communicate with you. So
29:05
in the morning I got a message saying that
29:07
she was stable through the night, but
29:10
she's developed ventricular
29:13
arrhythmias, tachycardia, and
29:17
her muscle contractions are weak. That's
29:21
from the surgery and because of how, because
29:23
of how dilated her heart was. So
29:26
they're giving her anti arrhythmia
29:28
medication. They're giving her all
29:31
this medication, but I
29:33
just felt like all of this is a bad sign
29:36
and I said, is this worrisome? And
29:39
she wrote back, yes, that's why we're starting
29:42
treatment, which wasn't the reassuring message
29:44
I hoped it would be. And
29:47
then I said, is
29:50
this common? And she said, yes, we see
29:52
it commonly and kind of explained that like,
29:54
if the arrhythmia continues, it can lead to
29:56
fainting or collapse. In worst case, the
29:59
heart can stop. And
30:02
that was a very upsetting series
30:04
of messages. But then the
30:07
next day, her arrhythmias
30:09
had gotten, or no,
30:11
later that day, she had responded to
30:13
the medication and she was getting better.
30:16
And the next day,
30:18
her arrhythmia, arrhythmia, arrhythmia was lessened.
30:20
So they switched to oral medication
30:22
from injectable medication. And then today,
30:24
she's much closer to normal. And
30:26
they're saying we could even visit
30:28
her tomorrow because we couldn't visit
30:30
her up till now because if
30:32
she gets excited, that makes it
30:34
worse. So she has to stay
30:36
very calm. But the message
30:38
today was that she's eating well. She's like almost
30:41
back to normal. She's eating well and she's barking
30:43
when bored. It's like,
30:45
okay, she's back to herself. Our
30:47
Wendy's back. So yeah,
30:50
it's been, that
30:52
part of this trip has been pretty
30:54
weird and interesting.
30:58
I definitely feel like Japanese people,
31:01
for the most part, do things kind of
31:04
better than others. There's like
31:06
a pride, there's a cultural
31:08
sort of thing in Japan where people
31:10
take pride
31:12
in the work they do, no
31:14
matter what job it is. That's
31:17
not to say that there aren't Japanese
31:19
people who don't, but like, you
31:21
know, for the most part, like if you
31:23
go to McDonald's here, they
31:26
are putting their best
31:28
effort into it and they're happy
31:30
and it's a good experience dealing
31:33
with someone who works at that
31:35
McDonald's. It's
31:39
really nice to live, to be in a
31:41
society like that. Well, it's sort of interesting.
31:43
I was, okay, so I
31:45
know where I'm jumping around, but I posted
31:48
something on Instagram today saying that
31:50
I know so many people who love
31:52
Japan and I, like,
31:54
where should I go or what should I see to have,
31:57
so that I can love it like you do, because I
32:00
like it. it, but I don't love it because that's I
32:02
like it, but I don't love it yet. This is not
32:04
my favorite place on earth. Granted, we're here for sort of
32:07
less than like super fun
32:09
reasons. But I just
32:11
feel like I haven't experienced the
32:13
Japan that no rope Tony loves,
32:15
etc. So someone put me in contact
32:17
with this American guy who lives here. And then
32:21
he said, Do you know what to
32:23
Tommy? Tada, to talk to Tommy is
32:25
do you know this Daniel T
32:27
A T E M A E. Wait,
32:32
say T A T. What?
32:34
M A A E. To
32:36
Tommy. Well, do you know that?
32:38
Okay, he said, it's key to
32:40
not only understanding but also navigating
32:43
Japanese society and making the best
32:45
relationships. He thought
32:47
I was moving here though. So then but
32:49
still, he said, in a
32:52
nutshell, in order to keep the society in
32:55
harmony and out of conflict, everyone has raised
32:57
their whole lives to keep their true feelings
32:59
inside only to be revealed to close friends
33:01
and family. When we interact with people in
33:04
public daily life, we are mindful to be
33:06
proper, courteous, etc. It's the glue that holds
33:08
this place together. I'm not saying all the
33:10
friendliness is fake. But I am saying we
33:13
have to be friendly. But if you're just
33:15
here two weeks, it's nothing you really need
33:17
to consider. I was just thinking about that.
33:20
I was thinking how interesting it is. It's
33:22
so, so fundamentally
33:25
opposite from
33:27
American individual
33:34
sharing everything, charting
33:37
your well,
33:39
everything I do even like it's
33:41
just so different than American individual
33:43
culture. That
33:45
aspect of it, yes. I have
33:48
heard of that. I didn't
33:50
know the word
33:52
for it. It's good and
33:57
bad. Because
34:01
on the one hand, yes, he's
34:04
right. It does create a very
34:06
cohesive, friendly, everybody is... Everyone
34:09
is super safe and super polite here.
34:12
But there's this respect-based
34:17
culture that everyone adheres to. And
34:19
you can imagine how
34:22
that makes everything really smooth. On
34:25
the other hand, and this isn't something
34:27
we have to deal with. But
34:29
if we lived here and worked here, it would
34:33
drive us crazy because it creates
34:36
a passive-aggressive... Yeah. Nobody
34:39
is direct. It's a part
34:41
of... I've
34:44
learned about Japan is you
34:46
end up having to develop the skill of
34:49
understanding what someone's
34:52
really trying to communicate when they're not
34:54
communicating it in any kind of direct
34:57
way. I learned that in my family.
34:59
Yeah. And so it's like I and
35:01
I personally, that's why I know I could never live
35:03
in Japan. I do love
35:05
Japan and I love the Japanese people.
35:07
I love this culture, but I could
35:10
never live here. It would be too
35:12
suffocating for me and I don't do
35:15
well with passive-aggressiveness. It's
35:18
just I'm just too Western. You'd
35:22
have to have those night movers disappear
35:24
you. Okay. I don't know if this
35:26
is true. I saw this on TikTok.
35:28
However, an American who
35:30
lives here now was talking about, quote
35:32
unquote, the night movers. So
35:35
if someone needs
35:37
to disappear from their life because
35:40
let's say they experience bankruptcy
35:43
or something where they have a lot of shame
35:45
around it, they'll hire these night... I don't know
35:47
if it's like specific people that do
35:49
it or I don't know exactly if it's a
35:51
company or how it works, but they'll hire
35:54
these night movers who come and they
35:57
relocate you in the middle of a... the
36:00
night, not even
36:02
your friends or family will have any idea where
36:04
you went. Oftentimes you'll just be regarded as a
36:06
missing person and they just send you to some
36:08
other part of Japan. It's like a, it's like
36:10
a witness relocation. Yes. So
36:12
weird. I, you'd have to do that. Well, I think
36:15
that by the way, I think that's brilliant because I
36:17
was thinking like, God forbid, if
36:19
one of our boys became really
36:21
suicidal, I would much
36:23
prefer they, they
36:25
have that option. Oh,
36:29
relocate, disappearing and re-locating. I'm just going like, I'm going
36:31
to then, you know, it's
36:33
just, okay, good. At
36:35
least I know you're somewhere and
36:37
you're happy. Like, I dunno, but
36:39
God, that's dark. But you wouldn't know that
36:41
though. You'd think that they just are missing. Yeah.
36:45
And then not knowing what drives you crazy. But even
36:47
knowing that that's an option would give you hope.
36:51
I dunno. Elliot and
36:53
Owen, one day, if you're sad and
36:55
you're hearing this, call me.
36:58
But also it gets better
37:00
and also get help. Reach,
37:03
reach out, please. Tomorrow's a new
37:05
day. Don't let the night movers
37:07
disappear you. Sounds
37:10
like an 80s movie. But anyway, on
37:12
a, on a more like happy note, I
37:17
think just, and we get it. I don't know
37:19
if you're going to release the stuff
37:21
we just recorded earlier, but we
37:24
did get into this. Yeah. But so
37:26
I'll just make it quick in case you do. No, I feel
37:28
like that should not see the light. Okay.
37:31
Well, my, my point to you then
37:33
and is again, that we're,
37:36
we are not doing an experience
37:38
like we
37:41
have come here with a purpose, which
37:43
is this surgery, everything that
37:46
our whole, like where we're staying and what we're
37:48
doing is sort of like constrained by that. And
37:52
so it's not designed to be the kind
37:54
of trip where you experience
37:58
Japan in a way. that
38:00
I feel guilty because
38:02
this is this amazing
38:04
once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to visit
38:07
a foreign country that's
38:09
very foreign and very
38:11
different than Burbank
38:15
and yet I don't and
38:17
some of this is because I'm very
38:19
online and I see what other people's trips to
38:22
Japan look like I just feel
38:24
like I'm having trouble getting into them the
38:27
but you wouldn't do it you would not
38:29
do it this way at all if that's
38:31
what yeah like headspace the mind space why
38:33
am I having I can't even think of
38:35
the word I'm having trouble getting into the
38:39
head I'm having trouble wanting
38:42
to have that kind of trip and I
38:44
don't know if it's because I'm concerned about
38:46
money and I am
38:48
I think having some endometriosis flares
38:50
and I'm worried about Wendy and
38:52
I'm just like I'm
38:54
just not feeling super
38:57
adventurous but like sand
39:00
is passing through the hourglass we don't have that much more
39:02
time here so there's
39:04
the part that's you and then there's the
39:06
part that's the trip so there's the part
39:08
that's like yes you're worried
39:10
and anxious and it's comfortable you're uncomfortable
39:12
and you're not open and so therefore
39:16
the kinds of the kind of mindset you'd want
39:18
to be in you're not in it right um
39:21
and then there's the fact that it'd be like if
39:23
someone were to come from another country
39:25
and visit California and they're gonna
39:27
stay in Century City yeah you
39:30
know and it's like there's a mall there
39:32
yeah I mean there's stuff there and it's
39:34
like yes you could go to a nice
39:37
restaurant in that mall and
39:39
you could but it's a business district Houston's
39:41
yeah you go to Houston's whatever you
39:44
could even go to Beverly Hills but it's just
39:46
not like gonna
39:48
be that's not what you would design
39:51
for somebody if you're gonna be like you're gonna
39:53
fall a little bit sanitized if you want to
39:55
fall in love with California that is not what
39:57
I would write how I would design it yokaha
40:00
is very much like Century City. And
40:04
we are constrained by the fact that we
40:06
have stuff to do with Wendy and we
40:08
have two children and we just
40:10
can't go out at night. We can't go
40:12
wander the streets of Tokyo at night and
40:15
walk into a bar or go up to
40:17
the second floor of some alleyway and find
40:19
this little sushi place. And you know, all
40:21
those magical things. And then also like we're
40:23
here in the worst two months of the
40:26
year. It's so fucking hot and humid. If
40:29
you were there during Sakura season where they
40:31
have all the cherry blossoms and it's like
40:33
we were in Kyoto or one
40:36
of these beautiful like cities outside
40:38
of Tokyo. I
40:40
mean, just like there's so many
40:43
ways you could experience this country
40:46
that would have you fall in love with it. And
40:48
we're not doing anything like that. Now that- You
40:51
know they come out
40:53
with planes that go faster. Or
40:57
are we stuck at like Delta
40:59
cruising? You
41:02
mean could we get to Japan quicker? Yeah, because
41:05
I'm thinking, listen, who's to
41:07
say we'll never ever
41:09
make money again? Well, I would say this. It
41:11
seems bleak, but someday we might come into money
41:13
and we can come back. That flight did
41:16
not feel nearly as long
41:18
as it was to me. I was
41:20
prepared for like, no, this is
41:22
just for me. I don't
41:25
know what I was like. When you tell
41:27
me 11 and a half hours, I'm like,
41:29
okay, fucking hell, that is a long. But
41:31
maybe because my expectations were one
41:34
thing, it was like, oh, that was
41:36
it. Actually, it
41:38
didn't feel that much longer than like
41:40
a five or six hour flight. Yeah,
41:43
like I could totally do that flight.
41:46
The flight was not prohibitive for me. Especially if
41:48
we, and no offense, but if we don't have
41:50
to bring Wendy. If we
41:52
were our kids, like
41:55
one of our kids refuses to walk. Have
41:58
you ever, I don't know if anyone out there. has seen the Mr.
42:01
Show sketch where David
42:04
plays a kid. They're doing a fundraiser
42:06
for a kid whose disability is that
42:09
he's just lazy. And he's just, that's
42:11
it. He has nothing wrong with him.
42:13
He just doesn't want to not sit.
42:15
That's all. So we have
42:17
like, you know, it's just,
42:23
this is a city where you
42:27
want to come here without kids. There
42:29
is Tokyo Disneyland. We went
42:31
to it how I could do a whole episode
42:33
about it. Uh, but
42:36
it's, I would not say that this
42:38
is a city where you go with kids. I would say this
42:40
is a city you go when you're, you're a
42:42
couple either not married
42:45
or, or newly married without kids.
42:47
And then it's like amazing. Or
42:50
with your friends. Like, because I think
42:52
it's just like, I don't know, it's
42:54
a city for young adults, in
42:56
my opinion. You know, I wasn't, I
42:59
didn't, the first time I went out of the country, I was 19
43:02
and I was saying that to Elliott. I was saying, I didn't leave
43:04
the country until I was 19. You're seven
43:06
and you've left the country. And want to
43:08
know what he said? Is he
43:11
jaded? What did he say? What do you mean? Um,
43:17
then I explained it a few times and then I
43:19
think he eventually got it. We've got, sorry, we've gone
43:21
out and done things without Owen who's five. And I'm
43:24
like, up for
43:26
a second, I'll feel guilty. And then I'm like, he's
43:28
not going to remember
43:31
anything. We're not robbing. We're
43:33
not robbing him of any memories right
43:35
now. But I think Daniel's mom's
43:37
here too. Uh, we don't
43:39
just leave him at that. Um,
43:43
I think they'll both remember stuff, but I also
43:45
think the Lego store, they'll remember
43:47
the Lego store in the mall and they
43:49
love it. Owen's willing to walk for that
43:52
barely. He's like, my feet
43:54
got tired. Well, he's got
43:57
little feet. And
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44:57
we had I had intended to really
44:59
go through a lot more and tell
45:01
a lot more We have about what
45:03
we've done. We've got the future ahead
45:05
of us. Yeah, we but we do
45:07
have a snack chat So
45:10
let's do that Does
45:23
that sound that you're hearing They
45:26
have a Kit Kat Yeah
45:30
One of the things you got to do Come
45:32
to Japan is trial the different kinds of
45:34
Kit Kats and so we've had here We
45:36
are doing that for you sitting here and
45:39
Daniel wouldn't let me try them I
45:42
did anyway. Yeah, but only one or two.
45:45
Let's see. I'm gathering all
45:47
of them Okay, so
45:49
there's oh Wow,
45:52
there's a lot so many You
45:57
know, oh cuz these well,
45:59
you know We can share them. There's
46:01
two little tickets in each of them. You know what? Why don't
46:03
we just share them? Yeah, okay. So
46:06
there's melon ruby matcha milk
46:08
cotton candy taste Yuzu
46:11
strawberry and bitter. There's also a white
46:13
do we not have white? There's
46:16
only one white that's the one I ate. Okay,
46:18
it was good. What would you like
46:20
to start with Daniel? Whichever
46:23
let's start with Yuzu What
46:26
is you do is it just orange it looks
46:28
like orange I thought that you knew
46:30
it's a kind of orange. I don't know a
46:32
Yuzu orange. Okay, so Here
46:35
you go. All right, so we're each
46:37
taking one. It's got a white on the outside
46:41
The nose is sort of a white
46:43
chocolatey nose You
46:47
have sour like sour Orange
46:50
interesting. Oh, yeah, that's really good. It's almost
46:52
like a yogurt II Yeah
46:54
flavor That's
46:59
really good we have been I like
47:01
that one I started Ellie
47:05
was complaining about something To
47:09
be fair, I also didn't enjoy the restaurant we were at
47:11
but I said to him why don't you
47:13
give it a rating? Why don't we give things everything? This is the Yakuatori
47:17
restaurant. Okay, um But
47:20
you didn't like it cuz you okay cuz what you don't have
47:23
it a hugely adventurous palette Like
47:28
one of the didn't eat anything adventurous there. Well,
47:31
there was an eel omelet. Oh, yeah I don't
47:33
know. I don't know. Well, I don't like
47:35
the way eel looks listen. He was delicious I
47:37
won't eat gummy worms cuz they're worm shaped. I've got
47:39
a thing about eels and worms and things. This place
47:41
was good It
47:43
was fine. It was good. It was actually good Fine
47:47
this is better than
47:49
fine, but go ahead. Well, how many Daniels did you give
47:52
it? I give it four Daniels I think
47:54
Elliott ended up giving it
47:56
three Elliott's and I gave it three Alison's
48:01
no, I think Elliot gave it for
48:03
Elliot's Elliot is inflating his rating anyway
48:05
Well, that's not my problem take a minute daily
48:07
Elliot How many users do you give this you
48:10
do because I'm gonna give it a 4.5 That
48:13
was pretty good like if that were a
48:15
standard flavored KitKat it it would be a
48:17
KitKat I would buy frequently Yeah, okay. What
48:20
do you want? Where do you want to
48:22
go next? I'm really curious what Ruby is
48:25
Okay, let's try it But
48:27
I will say I've had the normal KitKats here
48:29
and they're better than the KitKats at home Like
48:31
I feel like the KitKat factory KitKats
48:34
is managed by a whole different folks here.
48:36
It's like a different formula. Okay. All right,
48:38
which one is this? This is Ruby Ruby,
48:41
what does that mean? Is that just Ruby chocolate?
48:43
I think this is Ruby chocolate Oh Ruby chocolate
48:45
is a thing, isn't it? Yeah Yeah,
48:51
it just tastes like KitKat Little
48:55
sour. Ruby chocolate has a tiny
48:57
bit of a tang a
48:59
tartness to it It's
49:01
a pretty good too. It's good. That's really good I
49:09
give that four. Would you smash
49:12
it? I'd
49:14
fuck with that. Yeah, I would too. That
49:16
was really good No,
49:18
you know what? I'm sorry That
49:21
last bite had like a it took
49:24
a turn, you know, I gotta say
49:26
those are better than normal KitKats Now
49:30
but you had like a regular KitKat
49:32
earlier here and you said that was
49:34
that was also better than it was
49:36
okay Let's
49:40
try the melon melon because
49:42
I think that one's gonna go the other way. I think I'm gonna
49:44
like it there was a Some
49:47
gummies they had when they were earlier
49:49
the boys and there was a melon flavor that was pretty
49:51
I didn't like that Okay, here we go. Smells smells
49:54
like oh, yeah, you can
49:56
smell that smells like glass smells like cantaloupe
50:02
Oh yeah, I like this. Very
50:09
Melanie, very. I
50:12
never thought of the girl's name Melanie like
50:14
Melanie. Like Melanie is
50:17
Melanie. Yeah, like that
50:20
lady's cantaloupe ask. Like
50:22
she has big boobs like she's Melanie. Melanie
50:25
is Melanie. So
50:29
this is good although I wouldn't eat it again. I
50:31
would, I'm giving that a 4.5. Can
50:34
I share with the audience what I had
50:36
yesterday that was delicious? Please
50:39
be my guest. At Tokyo
50:41
Disneyland I had a
50:45
hot dog. So
50:47
they instead of chili they
50:49
had curry. Many
50:53
people don't know this but
50:56
Japan is crazy about curry. And
51:00
Japanese curry is amazing. It's
51:03
really really good and if you live in LA
51:06
there is a great Japanese
51:08
curry place that I think is a, I
51:10
think might be a chain that started in
51:12
Japan. So it's very authentic. That
51:16
is on Satell. It's
51:19
like a block, I would say it's a block north
51:22
of Olympic so check that out. But
51:25
anyway they had curry instead of chili on this hot
51:28
dog and can I tell you so
51:31
much better than a chili
51:33
dog but the same vibe. It
51:37
like, you kind of
51:39
feel, it feels like
51:41
you're having a chili dog but it's sweeter.
51:45
It's oh my god it was so good. So anyway just
51:49
saying like everything's just like a little bit better
51:51
here. All the things are just
51:53
a little improvements. Yeah I had a cheese dog which
51:56
is a hot dog with cheese on top of it.
51:58
None of us were like, I
52:00
really want a hot dog. It's just it was late.
52:02
And it's all there was a lot of food options.
52:04
That's for our Tokyo Disneyland episode. Can
52:06
I tell you, I just checked my phone. Bad
52:10
news? No, it's not bad news. Well, no,
52:13
it's not about Wendy. I
52:17
was looking at my sub stack
52:19
settings today and
52:21
because I wanted to find a thing where
52:23
it like double like where
52:26
it's shoot someone an email saying, you
52:28
signed up for this. Did you mean to
52:31
sign up for it? Initially, I had didn't
52:33
have that enabled. However, I feel like I'm
52:35
getting some spams people signing up for it.
52:37
I'm not sure. Excuse
52:40
me, not at the paid level at the free level, so I want
52:42
to like make sure that. People
52:45
are intentionally signing up for it. But
52:48
anyway, one another option is you can have
52:51
it send you an email when
52:53
someone signs up. So I have like I get
52:55
emails when people sign up at the
52:57
paid level. But
53:00
then you can have it send you an email
53:02
when someone unsubscribes. And I didn't
53:04
have that enabled because I usually figure
53:06
like go with God. But I decided
53:09
to enable that when a paid subscriber
53:11
unsubscribes. And I just got my first
53:13
one. And now I'm like, well, why
53:15
turn that off? Turn it on. Subscribe. Now you're
53:17
going to be miserable all the time. It's called
53:19
churn, honey. In any subscription based anything, there's going
53:21
to be people that unsubscribe. People subscribe. I just
53:23
kind of want to be on top of it
53:25
because sometimes I'll log in and I'll be like,
53:27
oh, like the number went down to this or
53:29
it's up to this or whatever I want to
53:31
be more aware of it. But yeah, I don't
53:33
need to know. It's going to make you feel
53:35
bad. Just turn it off. I know. And it
53:37
interrupted an otherwise wonderful story
53:39
of a curry dog. Yeah,
53:42
look, if you can't afford to subscribe,
53:44
I don't like unsubscribe. It's fine. But
53:48
if you can't afford it and you want it, then
53:50
that's right. Say the reason they unsubscribe. And that's not
53:52
in the email. So now I don't want. It's
53:55
it's I know. I unsubscribe from
53:57
things all the time. It's fine. No shame. What
53:59
should we try? Yeah. I don't know. Which
54:02
one do you think looks good? Well,
54:05
let's try cotton candy taste. OK.
54:07
It's like their person
54:09
who translates it into English wasn't there that day
54:12
because it could just be cotton candy. Oh, is
54:14
that what it says? Cotton candy taste? Yes. Oh,
54:16
God. The the nose on
54:18
this. I want to say like
54:20
I have not seen as much mangled English as I was hoping
54:22
for. All right. Here we go. It's
54:25
blue. I the color alone. OK.
54:27
Light blue. Pink
54:29
inside. No. It's
54:33
OK. Oh,
54:36
it's like coconut flavored almost coconut
54:39
taste. This
54:43
is this is hard to swallow. Emotionally
54:47
for me. That's good.
54:49
I think it's good. It's not my favorite. I'm
54:52
going to give it three. OK. Strawberry.
54:56
Yeah, that's it. So
54:59
far, what's your favorite? Probably
55:03
the. What
55:05
was the second one we had? Ruby. Probably
55:08
the use the use the
55:10
cantaloupe was the second. No, yeah.
55:13
Yuzu is my favorite, too, or melon. All right.
55:15
OK, so this is strawberry. They
55:24
have no flavor or have I got covered? That's
55:26
what I was thinking. What do it? Barely
55:30
any flavor. Very
55:33
subtle. Comes
55:36
on a little at the end. Yeah. But not what I would want
55:39
from a strawberry. Good,
55:42
but not nearly what it could be very like not
55:44
living up to its potential. It
55:47
almost seems like a breakfast bar that strawberry flavored.
55:49
Speaking of foods that don't live up to their
55:51
potential. We
55:54
saw copy bars today. Are
55:56
you the get of owls that way? Yeah. Copy
55:59
bars. We went to a petting zoo and
56:01
there were capybaras and they were all there
56:04
a bunch of them were lounging in bathtub
56:06
How when you think capybara how big do
56:08
you think because I think? Miniature
56:12
poodle size, but these things were
56:14
like Labrador. They're probably like 80
56:16
bigger than Labradors Well, maybe
56:19
not like a size of like
56:21
a mini horse. That's not that small a
56:23
pig like one of those Mini
56:25
ponies like what like what
56:27
Lisa Vanderpump has? They were
56:29
almost that big like how much do you think one of them
56:31
weighs like a hundred pounds? Oh easy Sure,
56:37
they're big motherfuckers. They're
56:39
cute though. They're very cute. And then we
56:42
were just thinking about how Al ate one in
56:44
Uruguay He's such
56:46
a monster That's
56:48
what I don't know about Al is a monster. Okay,
56:50
we got white bitter matcha and milk left your choice
56:55
Let's do better just to spice things up
56:59
Oh, we have casis also Okay,
57:03
I'm not a fan of bittersweet chocolate
57:06
It reminds me of um, the baker's
57:09
chocolate that I ate smells like baker's
57:11
chocolate. Yeah Fine
57:17
it's very baker's chocolatey I Like
57:22
it but oh Actually,
57:27
it's pretty good needs have a packet of trivia. Yeah, that's
57:31
pretty good No
57:36
That gets one Allison how long
57:39
until Kit Kat decides
57:42
to do the shit in America Have
57:47
all these flavors like what's stopping them? Why
57:49
do they only do it? I don't know Clearly
57:53
there's interest is it just like you have
57:55
to have such a broad market that you
57:57
can't you have to simplify everything I remember
58:01
Do they sell all these flavors in stores
58:03
here or are they just in the store?
58:05
I'm sorry. I hate that bittersweet one I
58:09
don't know but like look let's
58:11
just move on. Okay. Why?
58:16
Well, I'm just wondering is it because you have to with
58:19
something like KitKat You
58:21
have to appeal to so many people that you can't
58:23
have as many options It's like I
58:25
remember that when I was in film school. There's
58:27
this producer who was explaining why movies
58:31
There aren't more interesting movies coming
58:33
out of Hollywood and he's cut. He's the analogy
58:35
he used was You
58:38
know, okay, we're all of us in
58:40
this class like we ought to agree on an
58:43
ice cream flavor You
58:45
know, we all had to agree on one, you know,
58:47
like half
58:50
the time you maybe have chocolate
58:52
and half the time you'd have vanilla and maybe
58:55
one out of every Ten
58:57
times maybe you could come up with something
58:59
a little bit outside the box but but
59:02
when you're appealing to so many people there's
59:04
just your the the
59:06
the You can't go far
59:09
outside of that right like right the
59:11
average and that's what so that's why
59:13
you have fewer choices but in
59:15
a place like Japan where
59:19
You've got fewer people Or
59:22
maybe it's because it's more of a homogeneous
59:24
society. So They're candy there
59:27
can be more variety, you know, like I
59:29
don't know there's probably some sociological reason for
59:31
it Alright, listen, I don't think I
59:33
have what it takes to finish
59:35
out the round. You're gonna finish
59:37
the casis I tried that the
59:40
other day and it wasn't that good. Well, that's why we're gonna do it.
59:42
No, no, no I don't want to
59:44
eat that one. No, but that's why we're doing it. Oh
59:46
and we're gonna save milk Oh,
59:49
do you want to save it for another show?
59:51
That's what I was thinking. Yeah, sure. Okay. Okay.
59:53
So then let's do milk Let's do
59:55
milk. Let's just see. Oh, I
59:57
thought you were done. Okay. No, I'm saying I've got
59:59
one more and me. Oh, listen, Elliot wanted to be
1:00:01
part of this and he's going to be very upset
1:00:04
when he finds out that we did this out himself.
1:00:06
Well, that's why I bought so many of these so
1:00:08
that he can. Oh, well, I wish
1:00:10
we. OK, poor planning. All right.
1:00:12
So this is this should be just a regular
1:00:14
kick out. This
1:00:19
is basic ass. Yeah, it's
1:00:21
good. But
1:00:25
it's just a kick out. But
1:00:28
good. Yeah, it's good. Listen, a
1:00:30
regular kick out is good. It's
1:00:34
a good candy. This kind of brought me back
1:00:36
in the game. What
1:00:40
do you want to do? No, I'm good. But
1:00:42
that's how much I didn't like the bittersweet
1:00:44
one that it made me
1:00:46
lose my taste for kick. You don't
1:00:48
like that. No,
1:00:51
that like water, dark chocolate can suck a
1:00:53
dick. There's
1:00:56
so much you guys like hearing me suck the
1:00:58
chocolate out of my teeth. There's so much what
1:01:01
more we could talk about, but we'll just have
1:01:03
to save those for future shows because
1:01:06
you give them just like a teaser of what
1:01:08
we could talk about. Well, besides
1:01:10
Tokyo, Disneyland, just thoughts about Japan. I
1:01:13
mean, like every day. It's
1:01:18
just it's
1:01:20
interesting. I got to say this
1:01:26
thing where six
1:01:29
months ago I sat down and I
1:01:31
was like, I
1:01:33
got to learn some Japanese because
1:01:38
we're if we're going to Japan and
1:01:42
I've heard they don't speak a lot of English there.
1:01:45
I don't want to be, you
1:01:47
know, plus it's like, you know, it felt
1:01:49
like this impenetrable language. The
1:01:52
fact that I can like go around and
1:01:55
talk to people, right? It's very impressive.
1:01:57
Like you conjugate on the fly. I
1:02:00
can talk to people in Japanese now, I'm not anywhere
1:02:04
near fluent, or conversational, frankly.
1:02:07
But it feels like... More than
1:02:09
I am. It's
1:02:11
like playing a video game or
1:02:13
something, where it's like... I
1:02:16
had this experience where I sat down at
1:02:18
this restaurant, kind of bar,
1:02:21
I was waiting for take-out. Excuse
1:02:23
me. And it's
1:02:27
like I was able
1:02:29
to assemble these sounds
1:02:32
together in a particular order, and
1:02:35
by uttering them in that order, I got a beer.
1:02:39
You know what I mean? Like, if you say this,
1:02:41
then this, then this, then this, a beer
1:02:43
arrives. What did you say? Say
1:02:45
it. Well, the first thing
1:02:48
I said, because I didn't know, I go, a bitu
1:02:51
wa rimasu ka? Which
1:02:54
is, do you have beer? And
1:02:56
he said, hey, and I go, a bitu kurusai,
1:02:58
bitu wa kurusai. What
1:03:01
does that mean? Can I have a beer?
1:03:04
It says, I'll have a beer. Well, you're saying
1:03:06
I have a beer, please. Technically, you're
1:03:08
saying beer, I'll have a beer.
1:03:15
Or give me beer. I think it's like give
1:03:17
me beer. But that sounds less
1:03:19
polite than it is. Kudusai is almost like please.
1:03:24
But that's very simple stuff. There have
1:03:26
been other times, I
1:03:29
don't know, it's just like really, you know, look.
1:03:33
I was in Japan when I was a kid, and it was
1:03:35
just, it was like
1:03:37
everything is gibberish. Everything
1:03:41
they say, all of the characters,
1:03:43
it's very scary because you're just like, I
1:03:47
don't understand anything that's happening. And
1:03:49
the fact that I can, I was
1:03:52
in the shower, and there's like this little sticker
1:03:55
on the door, and it's
1:03:57
all in Japanese, and I was just staring at
1:03:59
it. Now I couldn't. could not exactly, because
1:04:02
in Japanese there are these sort
1:04:05
of Chinese, there's like three different
1:04:07
alphabets really, and one of them, if you
1:04:09
don't know it, you just can't figure it
1:04:11
out, which is the kanji, which is like
1:04:13
these Chinese letters. So I had some
1:04:15
of those I didn't know, but I could look at it and I could
1:04:18
kind of like, I was
1:04:20
like, I wonder if I could
1:04:22
figure out what this means? And I was like, kind of looking at
1:04:24
it and I could understand enough of it. And
1:04:26
then I did the like, Google Lens
1:04:28
to see if I was right. And I
1:04:31
was, of course I wasn't exactly right. But
1:04:34
I was very much in
1:04:36
the ballpark. What
1:04:38
I thought it said was, be careful
1:04:42
because water can
1:04:44
leak out of the door and you
1:04:47
can, and it can be
1:04:49
a danger. So just like, it's sort of a warning
1:04:51
that when you're taking the shower, that
1:04:53
water can go out, it can leak. And
1:04:56
what it was saying is if specifically
1:04:59
what it was saying was if you
1:05:02
direct the
1:05:04
shower at the top of the
1:05:06
door, it'll leak out. So it
1:05:08
was giving more of a specific like how
1:05:10
it happens. But I was right that it
1:05:13
was warning you that the water that goes
1:05:15
out is a danger. Listen
1:05:17
folks, what I'm saying is I'm a genius. If you
1:05:21
take nothing else away from this, Daniel
1:05:25
speaks Japanese. I'm not trying
1:05:27
to see you now.
1:05:31
Listen, I am not, I am
1:05:33
not boasting. I am not good at
1:05:36
Japanese. I could, I cannot have a
1:05:38
conversation. I'm impressed. But it does feel
1:05:40
miraculous. It's that's
1:05:42
just how it feels. Folks, this is how
1:05:44
it feels. I was made
1:05:47
to believe when I was a child by
1:05:49
Senor Brenna, a fucking demon
1:05:51
from hell that called
1:05:54
itself Senora Brenna, Brenna,
1:05:56
Senora Brenna. This
1:05:59
demon sent straight from hell. It
1:06:03
fucking labeled me not only as
1:06:05
a bad kid but as someone
1:06:09
who couldn't learn Spanish and
1:06:11
I had
1:06:14
decided I'm going to show you Senorobreina.
1:06:16
I'm going to teach you a fucking
1:06:19
lesson. I am never
1:06:21
gonna learn Spanish. I
1:06:23
am never gonna fuck you. I'm never
1:06:25
gonna learn it. You showed her. And
1:06:28
I internalized the idea that
1:06:30
I can't learn a language. So for me
1:06:32
personally to be able
1:06:34
to learn a language at all and
1:06:36
then for it to be such a
1:06:38
difficult language. Now
1:06:40
I will say this. When I
1:06:43
first got here and I first started
1:06:45
speaking some Japanese to people, I
1:06:48
very much I realized
1:06:50
expected the reaction to
1:06:52
me saying, arigato gozaimasu,
1:06:55
which is just thank you very much. I
1:06:58
expected the reaction to be one
1:07:00
of pure delight. And so funny
1:07:02
you're saying this. I shared this
1:07:04
on Allison and Todd after hours.
1:07:06
I said the exact same thing.
1:07:08
I said I want
1:07:10
like I expect them to
1:07:12
just be like oh
1:07:15
my god. You
1:07:19
are an amazing person to have
1:07:21
learned our language. And then like
1:07:23
confetti and everything. I
1:07:25
shared that I even said to you if
1:07:28
someone said to you hello with an accent.
1:07:32
I would not have a reaction. You
1:07:34
just be like oh they're just saying
1:07:36
hi to me. Well that's what I
1:07:38
realized. Yeah. Like Konnichiwa, Konbanwa. Like no
1:07:41
one's saying. They are not throwing confetti.
1:07:43
They're not even delighted. They just take
1:07:46
it in stride. Because to them it's just
1:07:48
hello. I
1:07:50
need more. Hello. I've learned how to
1:07:52
say it in your language is what
1:07:55
I really am trying to express. There
1:07:57
have been some interactions I've had where...
1:08:00
where I have
1:08:03
gotten a little bit more of the
1:08:05
reaction that I desire, but it's usually
1:08:07
when I have gone another step with
1:08:10
it. Wait, when have you had that reaction? Tell me about it. I
1:08:13
want to vicariously live through you. I can't remember exactly. I think
1:08:15
it's like when I've been
1:08:17
trying to like give
1:08:22
more complicated like food orders or
1:08:24
something or I
1:08:27
think when I was trying, there
1:08:29
was an art supply store we were trying to find
1:08:31
and I was like talking to the woman at the
1:08:33
information booth and like I think there's like
1:08:36
things like that where there's more of an interaction.
1:08:39
I'm like going a little deeper because I'm using
1:08:41
more, then there'll be a
1:08:43
little bit more like, okay, you
1:08:45
know, this is clear. Like they're not fooled. They
1:08:47
know that I don't speak the language. I'm not
1:08:49
like that good, but I
1:08:51
think for Japanese people, English
1:08:54
is just as hard as Japanese is for us.
1:08:57
And so I think there's an understanding that
1:08:59
it's not easy and an
1:09:01
appreciation that I'm giving it a try. It's
1:09:03
crazy to think though, the one doctor at
1:09:05
the clinic who speaks English, who,
1:09:08
you know, did the extremely long
1:09:10
and intense pre-op
1:09:12
appointment with us in
1:09:15
English, the level of detail
1:09:17
that she's able to articulate.
1:09:20
She's incredible. Yeah, crazy. She's,
1:09:23
yeah, I marvel at it. Like I feel
1:09:25
like if I lived in
1:09:27
Japan for 10 years, I
1:09:29
wouldn't be as fluent in Japanese as she
1:09:31
is in English. Right. But
1:09:36
anyway, we should get going. I
1:09:38
guess we should. My throat's hurting, get
1:09:40
itchy. I'm gonna start going on a coughing fit.
1:09:42
Oh no. Listen, you
1:09:44
guys, thank you so much for listening. I
1:09:47
hope you've enjoyed Daniel and me because you're
1:09:49
gonna get a bit more of us for
1:09:51
the next few episodes. I haven't exactly- Figured
1:09:55
it out. If you're not loving it, figure
1:09:57
out a way to start loving it. That's right. Dig
1:09:59
deep. Look inside. Let's
1:10:03
see. Yeah, so
1:10:05
again, Substack. Substack. Patreon.
1:10:07
Patreon. Alison
1:10:10
and Todd After Hours, Childish.
1:10:12
You know all my things.
1:10:14
Go find them. They're all
1:10:16
at alisonslinks.com also. Hit
1:10:19
that merch, won't you? And
1:10:23
Monday's episode, no, a week ago is Monday. Monday's
1:10:25
episode from a week ago is on
1:10:27
YouTube. So with Jillian Gottlieb,
1:10:30
she's a ton of fun. So
1:10:32
go check that out, youtube.com/Alison Rosen.
1:10:34
Daniel, anything? For
1:10:37
me? That's right. I'm
1:10:40
back on X if you wanna follow me
1:10:42
there. Boy, is that a fucking hoot. A
1:10:45
hoot and a half. Hoot and a holler,
1:10:47
but yeah, whatever. Go
1:10:50
there. Thank you for
1:10:52
listening. I love you, you matter, goodbye. Hey,
1:10:56
do you know about
1:10:58
the Alison Rosen Show? We
1:11:04
had a good time, but
1:11:06
now we gotta go. Yeah,
1:11:12
Alison Rosen is
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your new best friend.
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