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And now, live from PodCabin in

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Burbank, California, it's the Alison Rosen is

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your new best friend show. Tonight,

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Alison welcomes a guest. She's a comedian,

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actress, and former Victoria's Secret Associate

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of the Month. It's Lizzie Cooperman. Chef

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Jeff is here to remind you that

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the tariffs don't affect the cost of a

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single thing as long as you buy

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it from the junkyard. I'm her husband, Daniel,

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saying hop on board the Love Bus

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and say hello to your new best friend,

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Alison Rosen. I'm

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your best friend. Hello,

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my little orange cranberry scones welcome

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to another exciting episode of

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friend that particular carbohydrate was

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sarah e yes a joint

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collaborative carb on patreon patreon oh

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this is where i say bye Allison

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V and Sarah E. I messed up

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my own flow. Allison, what are

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you doing? That's okay, though. We're just

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going to roll with it. Yes,

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I am on Patreon. Lots of fun

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stuff over there. You can submit

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your carbs. You can listen to the

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Friend Zone. That is my Patreon

1:29

podcast. And if you're at the confidant

1:31

level, there's a number

1:34

where you can text me and I'll text

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you back. And then also I send out

1:38

a daily text update. And that

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is where you find out. Pivotal

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stuff like what's

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going on with my starfish? What's going

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on with the estate? Things

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I've written in my journal. The

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fact that I even write

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in a journal and such. Patreon.com

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slash Allison. Listen, Daniel. Patreon.com

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slash Allison Rosen. I

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would rather people think it's a journal

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than reveal where I really put my journal

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thoughts because now I'm aware that when

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you die, people read everything digital that you've

2:08

left behind. But if you must know,

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it's in my drafts folder of my email.

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I just open up an email and

2:14

then I just write in it and then

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it just stays in drafts. That's where

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all my thoughts are if you must know.

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a ton of them or is it

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one ongoing one? Both.

2:25

I have... I had an ongoing one for

2:27

a while, but I have just a ton

2:29

of them as well. Why not the Notes

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app? Because I do it on

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my computer and on my phone. But you have the

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Notes app on your computer. You do. No,

2:37

I guess. Yeah, I don't know. I never open

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up the Notes app on my computer. Let's really

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drill down into this. You know, but here's the

2:44

thing. What? I'm also on Substack. AlisonRosen

2:46

.substack.com. Please support me there because

2:48

that's where you can support

2:50

me. And thank you. I would

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like to say hello and

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welcome to my guests. I'm so

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excited to welcome back to

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the show, Lizzie Cooperman. It's

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just been too long. It

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has, and it is an honor

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to be back in your

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collective presence. Thank you. The

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honor is all ours. I was telling

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her before the show. Hi, Daniel. I literally

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on Saturday was taking away. We to

3:18

get Lizzie back. And

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she was scheduled to come

3:22

on two days later. It was

3:24

like... Oh my gosh. That

3:26

keeps happening to me. I feel

3:28

like everyone I'm talking to,

3:30

everyone, even the customer service person

3:32

at Spectrum, is having this

3:34

experience of thinking of someone and

3:37

then they call or they

3:39

appear. It's super weird. Yeah. Then

3:41

it makes you wonder, because I'm a

3:43

little bit of a cynic. It's like... But

3:46

are we thinking of people just constantly and

3:48

then we don't notice it when they don't

3:50

pop up? I don't think so. I feel

3:52

like there's more to it. Sometimes. I feel

3:54

like it's more kismet. I think in this

3:56

case it's like I'm not having that direct

3:58

thought every week and then this just happens

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to be the week that Lizzie's on. Like

4:03

every weekend I'm like, we should have Lizzie

4:05

on. Try twitching your nose. Who's

4:09

that crazy woman staring into our window? That's why

4:11

I don't do it more often because it is

4:13

hard to twitch your nose. You

4:15

know who I'm thinking of right now?

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Jeff Fox. And he's right there. Hi,

4:19

Jeff. You say my name and I

4:21

appear. Hi, Allison. How are you? How's

4:23

your vagina? What? Oh,

4:26

boy. I have something to

4:28

say about that. Lizzie, you

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are lucky you missed quite

4:33

an episode last week where

4:35

I shared. you

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know i could tell the

4:39

story without going into the

4:41

dirty details amazing look how

4:43

you gonna don't look at

4:45

the expressions on jeff's face

4:47

and on daniel's face right

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now this is though i

4:52

don't know i had a

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yeast infection a particularly gnarly

4:56

one okay and uh it

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resulted in peter eating my

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underwear like my dog oh

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my god I

5:05

mean, he likes... Please tell me they were

5:07

off. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. Sorry.

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Also, he ate, like, the

5:12

front, like, wear on a night

5:14

shirt, like, the area that

5:16

wouldn't cover my crotch. Oh.

5:18

But anyway... He just picked up

5:20

on the scent. Yes. He's got

5:22

very good scent. He likes dirty

5:25

clothes in general, but he's never

5:27

literally devoured them. He either. Like,

5:29

digested them. He's a dirty dog.

5:31

But anyway... It's continued, and he's

5:33

destroyed like three or four pairs

5:35

of underwear. Now, you might say

5:37

to yourself, Allison,

5:39

you disgusting beast, why are you just

5:42

throwing your dirty underwear into a pile

5:44

on the ground? Which, for the first

5:46

time, just occurred to me right now,

5:48

there is a way around this. It's

5:50

to not give him access to my

5:52

underwear. Why do that? When

5:54

I continue to be a disgusting...

5:56

Person who lives as if I'm

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still in college. Although I had

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like a hamper then. Anyway.

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know what? I bet the edible underwear

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business would do so much better if

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they marketed toward dogs. Yes.

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People really aren't buying those. We

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were. Okay. Another clue. We were

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just talking about this. No. Not

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in relation. No, for real. Because

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we are under the impression it's

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like a fruit roll up. Yeah.

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I tried it. I mean, I

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saw one. I came across one

6:28

in the woods. Yeah,

6:31

it was like a fruit roll -up.

6:33

What flavor, though? Yeast? No.

6:35

Oh, my God. Like yogurt? It is

6:37

fruit roll -up. It's like a strawberry.

6:39

It sounds so unpleasant to put

6:42

on your body. For

6:44

whom is that pleasurable, the whole edible

6:46

underwear thing? It's just like... I know.

6:48

Does anyone use it or is that

6:50

just a straight -up gag gift? It sounds

6:52

like Lizzie encountered a pair in the

6:54

woods and tried it. It's

6:57

got to be all that shit.

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Yeah. Yeah. Well, I don't

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know. I think I'm sure people try

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it. You know, Jeff, will you look up

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edible underwear? And I want to know

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the flavors. All right. Fine. You and your,

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you and your, you and your limits

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and your, I will look it up then.

7:13

You already asked me how my vagina

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is. This is turning into hostile work. All

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right. Edible undies. And what

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I want to know is like, do they

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come in different flavors and different sizes?

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No, if they were weed edible undies. Oh,

7:27

Edibles undies. I don't know. That

7:29

probably wouldn't change anything. Oh, Edibles undies. Oh, my

7:31

God. I

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only enjoy it if

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it's underwear. The

7:38

idea of putting like THC in that

7:40

area, though, like might absorb into the

7:42

skin. There's a lot of like blood

7:44

vessels close to the skin. Now, see,

7:46

here's a candy cock ring. And it

7:48

looks like, remember those necklaces that you

7:50

would that a ring for a candy

7:52

cock? No. Oh.

7:55

It's like a necklace that we wore

7:57

when we were kids. Oh, yeah. What

7:59

were those called? You'd get them at the beach.

8:01

It looks like a friendship bracelet. You should wear that

8:03

to a Taylor Swift concert. I should. You

8:05

know, just like one of those necklaces you eat. Well,

8:08

out there, any Swiftie. There's

8:11

a lot of

8:13

gummy panties, edible crotchless

8:15

watermelon. Oh, strawberry. That would

8:17

be so uncomfortable to have all the little. There's

8:20

so much. candy

8:23

lingerie. So there's a whole market out there for

8:25

that. I don't know if there's a market or

8:27

just a website. You're

8:29

mixing... Anyway, yeah. Well...

8:32

Anyway, the point is I

8:34

need to re -up my

8:36

underwear. Okay. Okay.

8:38

A lot to get into. But

8:41

you're on the... You got the

8:43

syringe full of the... Thank God

8:45

I just took Diflucan. Okay. Have

8:47

you taken that before? That's just

8:49

a pill. no. Oh, you haven't?

8:51

Maybe I... Maybe I did.

8:53

I haven't had a yeast infection in a

8:55

long time. Oh, you're so lucky. like

8:57

college or something. Oh, you are very lucky.

8:59

I hadn't had one in a long

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time, but it's been more recent than college.

9:03

But anyway, no. So yes, back in

9:05

the day, it was just a messy syringe

9:07

full of goo that you had to

9:10

shoot up inside yourself like for seven days.

9:12

Right. Now there's something, which maybe you

9:14

know, Diflucan, it's just a pill. And one

9:16

pill knocks it out usually. And sometimes

9:18

you have to take pill. Our bid for

9:20

the young male audience has just gone

9:22

out the window. They

9:25

might have girlfriends. We wanted to encroach

9:27

on that Rogan. It's not happening. Fine.

9:30

Well, then I'll bring them back. No, it's fine, honey. You know,

9:32

you got to have your niche. I'll

9:34

bring them back with my starfish

9:36

talk. They love that. Let's

9:38

talk about barbecue. Let's talk

9:40

about wrestling. Yes. Smoked

9:42

meats. Can I just say

9:44

something? Yeah. When you look at

9:46

pictures of these guys, these

9:48

influencers in the manosphere, and then

9:50

you look at those pictures

9:52

of those guys, and then you

9:55

imagine them 15 years ago, that

9:58

same guy would have made fun

10:00

of the guy they are because

10:02

they're so metrosexual now. Like they

10:04

are so groomed and they're so

10:06

like their shirts are really tight

10:09

and like they wear. these clothes

10:11

the hipster they're all like these

10:13

metrosexual hipsters now and i just

10:15

remember not so long ago those

10:17

guys hated those guys and then

10:19

they became those guys yeah any

10:21

guy what the fuck happened any

10:24

guy that put any effort into

10:26

his appearance 10 years ago was

10:28

a metrosexual dandy these guys now

10:30

will like straighten their beards like

10:32

that's how much they're into groom

10:34

it's just weird anyway sorry it's

10:37

weird interesting I haven't

10:39

looked through my catalog of photos of

10:41

these while. The folder in your

10:43

iPhotos? Wait, which men are you talking

10:45

about? I don't know what Andrew

10:47

Tate looks like. Yeah, Andrew. Well, it's

10:49

good that you don't. Jordan Peterson.

10:51

Just imagine. No, I don't want to

10:53

know specifically what guys are you

10:55

talking about. I don't know their names

10:57

because they're just in your calendar. know

11:00

what I'm saying? Like on Twitter. male influencers have a month

11:02

calendar. It's a daily

11:04

calendar, not monthly. Thank you. Right. You

11:06

just rip it off and then. No,

11:09

I mean like anytime you see one of

11:11

these guys come across, maybe you're not. I'm

11:13

still a little bit on X and so

11:16

there's a lot more there. You just look

11:18

at little pictures. But the t -shirt I

11:20

feel like is so that they can show

11:22

off their muscles. But it's also, yes, it

11:24

is. And their pants. So everything's too small.

11:26

That guy, Die Workwear, Derek, the fashion. twitter

11:29

guy do you know who i'm

11:32

talking about no he's great and

11:34

he's like but he's like a

11:36

tailor or something like that and

11:38

he knows a lot about male

11:40

fashion he's always but he's always

11:42

making fun of these guys but

11:44

he shows how much they just

11:46

wear the tightest clothes like everything's

11:48

super super like little little and

11:51

they look ridiculous um yeah but

11:53

it's all to show off their

11:55

muscles but that really really tight

11:57

thing was considered like you know

11:59

like gay men would wear that

12:01

like 20 years ago and now

12:03

they're wearing it and they think

12:05

that's like hyper mask it's just

12:07

funny how these things shift you

12:10

know something that was considered by

12:12

those same guys yeah gay is

12:14

now considered hyper masculine yeah i've

12:16

always felt like men the the

12:18

fashion choices are kind of limited

12:20

especially for like formal wear or

12:22

you know like it's like oh

12:24

what width of tie am i

12:26

gonna choose what a crazy tie

12:28

i wore something with a grinch

12:31

on it that's how you like

12:33

showcase your personality socks yeah crazy

12:35

socks daniel however that guy nicky

12:37

c bell do you know on

12:39

instagram who's like love it hate

12:41

it no god i'm gagged blah

12:43

blah blah no he just goes

12:45

through pictures of people really quickly

12:47

he's really talented but but It's

12:51

interesting to see, you know, because

12:53

when men go to, you know, an

12:55

awards show or something, I'm

12:57

sure a lot of them are just like,

12:59

oh, I just need to get a

13:01

tuxedo. They don't think like. Wait, is this

13:03

like maybe that guy Blackwell? What was

13:05

his name? Mr. Blackwell. Yes. Is he is

13:07

this Nikki C. Bell, the young Mr.

13:09

Blackwell? I know. I don't know. Mr. Blackwell

13:11

was this old guy. But we do

13:13

have someone who could find out. That'll

13:16

look good. He's like, I don't want it

13:18

to change my algorithm. You

13:20

start getting ads for Grinch ties?

13:23

That is what it was. Mr.

13:26

Blackwell, in my mind, I associate

13:28

him with Orville Redenbacher, just in

13:30

terms of it being an old

13:32

guy. That's not who Nikki

13:34

Siebel is like a younger. Right. But

13:36

he had opinions of everyone's fashion. I

13:38

forget if he had like a catchphrase.

13:40

I don't think he did. He was

13:42

like the. He had the 10 worst

13:44

dress list. That was always his. Okay,

13:46

so kind of like Joan Rivers. Yes.

13:49

Probably appeared with her, yeah. But

13:51

for men's fashion? I think for

13:53

everyone's. Is this like Nikki C.

13:55

Bell? Is Nikki C. Bell a stylist? I

14:00

don't know too much. Unfortunately,

14:02

I don't know anything. I

14:04

do have Nikki C. Bell's 23andMe

14:06

here. Oh, Portuguese.

14:09

I did the breach. Well,

14:14

I got to find this person. What's

14:17

happening, Daniel? Is

14:19

your shit blowing up? Totally.

14:22

Okay. I won't. So, there was

14:24

a lot of stuff that came

14:27

up before we started. Yes. And

14:29

then we decided, let's save this

14:31

for the show. Yeah. So, I'll

14:33

just tell you a little bit

14:35

of what we talked about. You're

14:40

trying to... a

14:42

conscious shift uh because you

14:44

have a lot going on lizzie

14:47

said that yes also wondering

14:49

where you would be best served

14:51

geographically yes and do you

14:53

know also about astro cartography yes

14:55

have you dipped into that

14:57

oh my god that's a whole

15:00

other you mean the astrology

15:02

like the the Yeah, that

15:04

tells you where you would thrive the

15:06

most, where in the world you would

15:08

thrive the most, according to your astrological

15:10

chart. And you said Burbank, Daniel? No,

15:13

mine said San

15:16

Francisco and... I

15:18

forget where else would be

15:20

the best for me. And it's

15:22

so weird because I've always

15:24

felt this pull to San Francisco.

15:26

And this was after I'd

15:28

already had these thoughts, like just

15:30

fascination with the place. Yeah.

15:32

It's like your line of Jupiter

15:34

and your sun. Mine skips

15:36

the United States entirely. Mine's just

15:38

like Egypt. Now,

15:41

Tokyo. Maybe

15:44

you should follow it. I mean,

15:46

I would actually love to right now.

15:48

I really feel like I'm ready

15:51

for a shift. But part of that,

15:53

and not to skip your intro

15:55

into all this. No, please. I'm done

15:57

with But I do feel like

15:59

I'm trying to make a conscious shift

16:01

right now. And part of this

16:03

is, I don't know, I'm guessing this

16:05

isn't in your algorithm. But Daniel, quantum

16:08

leaping. Are you

16:11

getting the quantum leaping videos? No,

16:13

but I want to. I don't

16:15

even know what it is. Quants! You

16:20

what? Sorry, the drop

16:22

was loud. A

16:25

lot of these influencers now are

16:27

saying, you can just quantum leap with

16:29

no relation to the TV show

16:31

Quantum Leap. What do they mean by

16:33

that? Pop timelines. They're saying that

16:35

there are multiple timelines and you can

16:37

just jump into another timeline of

16:39

your life if you just shift your

16:41

thinking. Do they claim to have

16:44

done this? Because that, I mean, how

16:46

do they know you can do

16:48

this? Well, it is in

16:50

a way kind of like if

16:52

you're imagining yourself a certain way

16:54

or you want something specific, you

16:56

just imagine yourself. as that person

16:58

and do the things that they

17:00

would do to accomplish what you

17:03

want to do i see so

17:05

if i wake up i'm like

17:07

i'm a master gardener i would

17:09

be you know i would not

17:11

have woken up uh groggy having

17:13

taken a tylenol pm at two

17:15

in the morning which i did

17:17

last night And I went to

17:19

my refrigerator to get the water

17:21

and a can of black beans

17:24

spilled. I was like, this is

17:26

the worst thing to topple out

17:28

of my refrigerator. So at

17:30

two in the morning, I was just like

17:32

with like sopping like paper towels, like cleaning

17:34

beans off my floor. Oh

17:36

my God. I need to leap.

17:38

I need a conscious shift away

17:40

from Well, this sounds like just

17:42

being intentional about your goals and

17:44

then accomplishing those, right? more

17:47

than just shifting don't know because

17:49

i think that we get stuck in

17:51

a story of this is what

17:53

my life has been this is what

17:55

ruined my life i should have

17:57

done this had i only stayed at

17:59

this job had i not said

18:01

that to that person it would still

18:04

things would still be fine and

18:06

we get lost in this narrative that

18:08

we we've created for ourselves and

18:10

i'm not saying that i'm this is

18:12

exactly something that i'm preaching necessarily

18:14

but i'm trying it of We're almost

18:16

like idolizing the past in a

18:18

way of saying, this is what changed

18:21

me. This is what ruined this.

18:23

You're giving it so much power that

18:25

you're not letting yourself break free.

18:27

A great message, by the way, for

18:29

Passover, which is happening as we

18:31

speak. We shut

18:33

the door to Elijah. But

18:36

we have a mic for him. We've

18:38

got a mic. We left a mic out

18:40

for Elijah. If he wants to say

18:43

anything, it's right here, Elijah. We

18:45

are all eagerly awaiting. Okay,

18:49

so Lizzie, what is the conscious shift make?

18:51

Wait, hold on. If Elijah Wood is at

18:54

your Passover, do you refer to them as

18:56

Big Elijah and Little Elijah? Like, how do

18:58

you tell the difference? really weird.

19:00

You know? Because I just did a

19:02

panel with him. We were just talking

19:04

about Elijah Wood earlier. That's why Lizzie

19:06

and I were talking Wood. People I

19:08

know who've worked with him say he

19:10

is the nicest guy. Yes. Just sweet

19:12

and nice. Sunshine. Walking sunshine. Yes. Yeah.

19:16

I mean, I didn't work with him

19:18

extensively. I did a panel with

19:20

him at the Philosophical Research Society. You

19:22

need to know more about this

19:24

place because I've never heard of this

19:26

place. I mean, I hadn't heard

19:28

of it until you and Jeff were

19:30

talking about it. It's on Los

19:32

Feliz Boulevard, and it is a place

19:34

that explores kind of what some

19:36

would refer to as the dark arts.

19:39

Love it. They have a gorgeous

19:41

shop with amazing tarot cards and other

19:43

kind of divinity apparatuses. What

19:45

are the dark arts? Because I

19:47

was watching a TikTok that was

19:49

like, if you're into dark feminine

19:51

energy, you need this book. But

19:53

like, what is all this? Like

19:55

the occult, like basically conjuring, kind

19:57

of. Conjuring and magic.

20:03

It's not for evil purposes or

20:05

manipulation necessarily though, right? No. Okay.

20:07

So it's interesting. That's Catholic propaganda.

20:09

It's interesting what has been, I'm

20:11

sure there's a thousand books about

20:13

it. Yes. It's interesting what has

20:15

been branded occult or dark. Is

20:18

it just that it has some relationship

20:20

with witches? I think

20:22

a lot of it, and I wish

20:25

I could speak to this more, but I

20:27

think a lot of it has to

20:29

do with feminine power also. Oh, interesting. Because

20:31

think about like the Salem witch trials

20:33

and all of that. A lot of it

20:35

is women tapping into their intuition. Right.

20:37

Not to exclude men. from

20:40

any of it because men are

20:42

intuitive also. I

20:44

wonder if there's an overemphasis,

20:46

and I don't mean over

20:48

in a too much, but

20:50

just there's like an emphasis

20:52

on femininity because men are

20:55

represented by the major religions.

20:57

So the alternative would push

20:59

more in the feminine. That

21:01

doesn't mean that the alternative

21:03

is exclusively feminine. you

21:05

know does that make sense sorry i

21:07

totally just spaced out i was still

21:10

thinking about the salem witch trials and

21:12

going i think that's wrong wait why

21:14

do you think it's wrong i think

21:16

it's right is it right okay i

21:18

was just like i i i feel

21:20

like i'm speaking to something that i

21:22

I only remember things if I read

21:24

them five minutes prior to a conversation,

21:27

is the truth of the matter. But

21:29

then I'm an expert. I'm an expert for

21:31

five minutes. And then it's gone. Yeah. And

21:34

then sometimes they'll just random pieces will

21:36

download in a zip file in my

21:38

brain. Yes. That happens to me too.

21:40

And my mom, many years ago, was

21:43

like, you should go on Jeopardy. And

21:45

so I took some... to see if

21:47

I even could get past the first

21:49

level, which then you take like another

21:51

quiz or something. And I didn't pass

21:53

it because I'm really bad with geography,

21:55

with most of the categories of things.

21:57

And I realized, oh, the

21:59

difference between me and someone who should

22:01

go on Jeopardy is that every now and

22:04

again, I can guess something really esoteric.

22:06

And I happen to be right. But it's

22:08

a guess. I don't actually know any

22:10

of this stuff. Now, do you play

22:12

the New Yorker games? On your

22:14

phone ever? New Yorker or

22:16

New York Times? New Yorker. No.

22:19

You would love, I think it's

22:21

called Name Drop on there. So

22:23

they'll give you clues one by

22:25

one. So it'll be like, in

22:28

1954, I, you

22:30

know, shot someone in

22:32

the head. But

22:34

it'll say like, I was married

22:37

to this person who ended up

22:39

being, you know, and usually the

22:41

clues are like a little obscure.

22:43

But they get more specific as you go on.

22:45

So if you can guess it on the first

22:48

one, you get more points. Do you get penalized

22:50

for guessing wrong? No, it

22:52

just says, oh, sorry. You just keep going.

22:54

And it's kind of endless. And I'm

22:56

learning as I'm doing it as well. I'm

22:58

learning and retaining the information for five

23:00

minutes. I wonder if you could get ChatGBT

23:02

to do that. Like if you just

23:04

said, I want to play a game with

23:06

you. Here are the rules. Then you

23:08

start World War III. Pick a person throughout

23:10

history and then do this. Right. But

23:12

you could. Okay.

23:15

But please, subscribe to The New

23:17

Yorker. I have important related breaking

23:19

news. Jeff, we need some kind

23:21

of breaking news. I

23:28

am back into Wordle in

23:30

a major way. Are

23:33

you a Wordler? Yeah, and

23:35

last night I got no letters

23:38

and then all letters. Like

23:40

it was like, wait, none, all.

23:42

And you got it right?

23:44

Second guess. Yes. Wow. Wow.

23:48

Have you done today's? Not yet. No.

23:50

Okay. I

23:52

mean, despite what I said, I

23:54

played Wordle back in the pandemic. And

23:56

then I was like quick to let it

23:58

go when it sold to the New

24:01

York Times. And I'm like, no, I liked

24:03

it when it was indie, when it

24:05

was for the people. And then I stopped

24:07

playing and then I would look at

24:09

people like. tony who has been playing non

24:11

-stop forever and i guess you too lizzie

24:13

and i thought imagine that sort of

24:15

like i feel about there's people who is

24:17

that allison hang on continue to play

24:19

a different timeline allison yeah like there's people

24:22

i left time at new york in

24:24

2007 and there's people that worked there when

24:26

i worked there who are still there

24:28

and i think what is that like that's

24:30

the wordle experience for me and then

24:32

something made me i don't know what it

24:34

was made me decide to

24:36

play again. And I was like, oh,

24:38

this is fun. And now I look forward

24:40

to it every day. And then when

24:42

I'm done, I think, well, now what? Great

24:44

story. Then I go to connections. I

24:47

don't like when it goes, phew. Okay.

24:50

With the quantum leaping, it's not

24:52

about switching to an alternate version of

24:54

you now. It's switching to an

24:56

alternate version of you in the future.

24:58

Is that the idea? Well. This

25:01

is going to make your head spin.

25:03

I'm curious what the me who worked

25:05

at Time Out. I'm going to tell

25:07

you. There is no future. There's

25:10

only the now. Right

25:12

now, who is Daniel

25:14

Kwan's? We're still

25:16

trying to figure that out. Oh,

25:18

yeah. Well, I'm glad you brought us back

25:20

to that. Oh, but then the game that I

25:22

like to play is on the Apple News.

25:24

They have the – I think it's Foursquare or

25:26

something it's called. I don't know. I don't

25:29

dip into Apple News. They always tempt me. They

25:31

try to hook me in with these titles

25:33

like these are the things everyone needs to buy

25:35

right now because of the tariffs. It's

25:37

not great. And then it's like cat food. I

25:40

don't have a cat. Why am I

25:42

reading this? The game is

25:44

good, though. It's like it'll take long

25:46

four -syllable words and break them into pieces,

25:48

and there'll be four of them, and

25:50

it's all jumbled, and then you have

25:52

to assemble the words. Wow. Okay,

25:54

let's get back to this. So

25:56

what is the – if this is

25:59

not too personal, the Lizzie that

26:01

you're trying to be, who is that

26:03

person? P .S., good

26:05

for your brain health, doing

26:07

an activity while doing physical

26:09

exercise. You should be –

26:11

playing, doing Wordle while hang

26:13

gliding. Is that true? I

26:16

just watched a video on this.

26:18

It was like, if you're doing a

26:20

physical activity while doing a puzzle, like

26:22

you're on a bike or something, it

26:24

can prevent Alzheimer's. I recently, as of

26:27

two days ago, have returned to exercising,

26:29

kicking and screaming. I used to exercise

26:31

a lot and then I just stopped

26:33

and it was so easy to stop.

26:35

And I was like, I love not

26:37

exercising, but worried that my body is

26:40

going to. turn into a vat of

26:42

goo I have gotten back on the

26:44

bike now for two days in a

26:46

row and I do games on

26:48

the bike that's why I don't have

26:50

Alzheimer's yeah you're preventing it you're preventing

26:52

it that and blueberries I gotta

26:54

incorporate blueberries into my bike ride okay

26:56

so yes what is the Lizzie as

26:58

my grandma would say I have Alzheimer's

27:01

She to deliver that joke. Is that

27:03

Nancy? Nancy. Yeah, so

27:06

what is the Lizzie that you want to

27:08

be? Well, first things first, that Lizzie now has

27:10

a bedroom that looks a lot more like

27:12

a hotel room. You've been

27:14

manifesting for a while. This

27:17

is kind of embarrassing, but after the

27:19

fires, which I haven't seen you since fires.

27:21

No, I know. I

27:23

was out of town, and when I

27:25

came back, part of my

27:27

window... You were out of town. What do

27:29

you mean? We're not

27:31

going to go there.

27:35

Likely story. This isn't a video podcast

27:37

right now, Daniel. Sorry. Okay. So Daniel's

27:39

air quotes run out of town and

27:41

none of us know what he's referring

27:43

to. I'm just saying. Where

27:46

were you the night? Oh,

27:48

got it. I see. She's

27:51

establishing an alibi. Jeff

27:53

gets me. Jeff,

27:55

do you want to move in? Skeedaddle.

27:59

when I came back, the window in

28:01

my bedroom was cracked. There was a

28:03

crack in it. My apartment smelled like

28:06

fire. Because you're in Glendale, right? And

28:08

I'm in Eagle Rock. Oh, right. And

28:10

my windows in my living room are

28:12

old. They're the kind that latch. And

28:14

there was like a layer of ash

28:16

on my desk. So

28:18

I didn't feel comfortable sleeping in

28:20

my bedroom. Even though I was

28:22

like reading articles and going through

28:24

there with a Swiffer. But it's

28:26

to be like toxic, that ash.

28:28

Yeah, I'm not a good cleaner,

28:30

even though I used to be

28:32

a maid. You

28:35

weren't a good maid, though. No, I was

28:37

a bad maid. I really was. They'd be like,

28:39

you left a rag in our shower. Left

28:43

a dirty rag. In a

28:45

celebrity shower, no less, in the

28:47

Palatins. What was your maid

28:49

gimmick? Well, it

28:51

was eco -friendly housekeeping. Yes, and I

28:53

did it with a friend of

28:55

mine. And I recently... Just came across.

28:57

I wrote like a 46 -page something

28:59

about it that's just sitting there

29:01

that I was like reading the other

29:03

night going, why do I just

29:05

have all this stuff sitting here waiting

29:07

to be published? Yeah. Shouldn't I

29:09

just become one of these like TikTok

29:12

people who's just reading my stuff?

29:14

Yes. Do it. Well, the reason is

29:16

because after you put something out

29:18

there, you can no longer get it

29:20

published. You know?

29:22

Like it's like that with poetry

29:24

because I write a lot of

29:26

poetry. I, you can't send it

29:28

out. I see what you're saying.

29:30

Everyone wants first rights to it.

29:32

Anyway. Oh,

29:35

so my bedroom. I

29:37

was worried because there was like a

29:39

strong kind of like chemical smell. Like

29:41

I had someone come over from the

29:43

gas company and. They

29:46

go, it's all in your

29:48

mind. They locked me up.

29:50

They sent me to a

29:52

very nice facility in Malibu. So

29:55

I was scared to sleep in

29:57

my bedroom. So I put like

29:59

a fitted sheet on my sofa

30:01

and I got really connected to

30:03

sleeping there because then I had

30:06

the air purifier. And

30:08

then I've developed a

30:10

new habit because of quantum

30:12

leaping. Which was going to

30:14

be my product pick, but thank God

30:16

I've got something else waiting there, stored

30:18

like a pinball waiting to take off.

30:21

I've emailed the link ahead of

30:23

time. But

30:26

my friend told me about this app called

30:28

the Parrot app. Oh, I was talking about

30:30

the hotel room. Yeah, but now I want

30:32

to hear about the Parrot app and then

30:34

we'll go back to the hotel room. So

30:36

there's an app called the Parrot app that

30:38

will play things on a loop, continuous loop. Oh,

30:40

so you can give yourself suggestions. Yes.

30:43

So I wrote myself. I

30:45

played a healing frequency. It's

30:48

called Healing Frequency 777. I

30:50

looked it up on YouTube.

30:52

I have that underscoring affirmations

30:54

to myself that I wrote,

30:56

not just ones I found,

30:58

but things that I think

31:00

that I need. So

31:02

I have the air purifier. So

31:06

my neighbors don't hear the

31:08

affirmations. guess

31:10

that would be insane. Or

31:12

they just start feeling really good about themselves.

31:15

They're like, I don't want to attract. I

31:17

am not a magnet for wealth. And

31:22

so I've been using that at night.

31:24

And I thought, oh, maybe I'll get

31:26

annoyed by it because I've listened to

31:28

audio books that I've forgotten to turn

31:31

off and been like in my dream

31:33

telling someone to shut up. i've

31:36

had that too like turn the

31:38

music off in the dream like

31:40

a joan didion novel read by

31:42

i can't remember was it diane

31:44

keaton or something that i was

31:46

like you're driving me crazy like

31:48

i was yelling at my dream

31:50

like stop it but this is

31:52

my voice and the reason i

31:54

think it's so good for you

31:56

to hear your voice is that

31:58

they say that that has healing

32:00

properties when you more than someone

32:02

else's voice hearing you Right. Say

32:04

it to yourself. Because it's your

32:06

voice that's usually saying the negative

32:08

things. You

32:11

hear your own negative loop in

32:13

your head all the time. So if

32:15

now you're hearing a positive loop

32:17

to counter the negative loop in your

32:19

own voice. Yes. And there's also,

32:21

do you know about the thing with

32:23

water where they say if you

32:26

say nice things to water, it completely

32:28

changes the molecular structure? I did

32:30

not know about this. like

32:36

a Jackson Pollock painting. And if

32:38

you, before you drink your water,

32:41

I'm to say to this water right now, thank

32:43

you so

32:46

much for healing

32:48

and hydrating

32:50

my body. You

32:52

are so beautiful and I

32:55

am so lucky to have

32:57

you in my life. This

33:00

water's molecular structure,

33:02

bless its heart.

33:05

Just became a snowflake. Completely

33:07

symmetrical. I'm going

33:09

to do it now. Yeah. I'm sorry for

33:11

the things I said about you. Water can

33:13

suck a dick. I don't like it that

33:15

much. Shh. I

33:18

didn't mean it. Water can suck a

33:20

dick. I don't like it that much. I

33:22

just wish you had more flavor, but

33:24

I get that you're just being authentic to

33:26

yourself. I

33:29

just drank pure snow. So

33:34

then you take in the water,

33:37

but part of it is we're

33:39

made of mostly water. So

33:41

then saying this to yourself

33:43

reorganizes, that's the theory, your structure.

33:45

And I do feel like

33:47

it's having an effect on me.

33:49

Can I tell you that

33:52

I sort of flashed? for a

33:54

second onto what my thing

33:56

the parrot app would say to

33:58

me while I'm sleeping would

34:00

be and it would just be

34:02

like you're right about everything

34:04

oh no she is a bitch

34:07

you're right about everything don't

34:09

let them make you doubt yourself

34:11

what would yours say Daniel

34:13

I don't even know what I

34:15

would need to tell myself

34:17

like suck it bitch Oh,

34:21

yeah. Check out the garage. Oh,

34:24

yeah. It's a big garage. Get out of here, you

34:26

motherfucker. I was hesitant to

34:28

talk about it because sometimes I feel like if

34:30

you talk about the things that are helping you,

34:32

it kind of zaps it in its potency. But

34:35

I do want to share it in case

34:37

anyone out there, because someone shared it with

34:39

me, you know, and it won't change it.

34:42

I'm excited to try it with the carrot out. Okay.

34:47

And just like that. We lost him.

34:49

just like that. And just like that,

34:51

Daniel claims he has a call. Oh,

34:53

okay. Just because it's in the middle

34:55

of the work day on Monday, like

34:57

we believe that. He's so full of

34:59

shit. Yeah, what's he going to go

35:01

do? Count his Butterfingers? His

35:04

favorite candy, Butterfinger? So, again, if you

35:06

feel comfortable telling us, what is the

35:08

shift you're trying to make? Like, who's

35:10

the Lizzie that you're trying to be?

35:13

Well, I feel like

35:15

I've had... A

35:17

couple of years where I've been,

35:19

I feel like I've been clawing

35:21

my way out of something. It

35:24

might be a little bit dark to

35:26

go into, honestly. That's fine. My

35:29

mom died. I love dark. I'm

35:33

just trying to change my

35:35

perspective on myself. I don't

35:37

have, part of my thing

35:39

is I don't have familial

35:41

support. And I feel like

35:44

that's created. a

35:46

void in me. That's

35:48

been there always. And

35:50

so I have to find that

35:52

within myself. And so I'm trying to

35:55

get better at that. And I'm

35:57

trying to be a little gentler on

35:59

myself because sometimes I think that

36:01

when you're in a position, especially when

36:03

your life feels out of control,

36:05

you can feel like... You're doing so

36:07

many things to try to get

36:09

it right that you almost like split

36:11

into many places. Like, no, I'm

36:13

doing tarot. I'm doing a podcast. I'm

36:15

performing standup. I'm writing this ad

36:17

copy for this freelance job. And I

36:19

just got an agent. And it's

36:22

like, what are you doing? Right. And

36:24

throwing all the things the fire.

36:26

Because you're just, you know, people

36:28

go, well, yeah, just see

36:30

what happens. Plant some seeds and see what happens.

36:33

When really I think it's, I'm

36:35

personally trying to create more of

36:37

a nucleus within myself that I

36:39

can trust and rely on and

36:42

surrender a little bit more rather

36:44

than pushing to make things happen. And

36:46

allowing myself also to stop

36:49

treating my life like it's a

36:51

problem that needs to be

36:53

solved. Oh, that resonates so much.

36:55

Yeah, I get that. It's

36:58

not a problem. It

37:01

is a gift.

37:03

And I am feeling

37:05

connected to flowers

37:08

and walking and feeling

37:10

joy in the

37:12

moment. Oh, that's so

37:14

good. And it feels

37:16

really good. And I've been, I think for

37:18

a long time, I was like, yeah, I

37:20

meditate, but I would do it like spottily.

37:23

And it was a smattering of

37:25

meditations. I also love Tara

37:27

Brock. Do you ever listen to

37:29

her? What's her name? Tara

37:31

Brock, B -R -A -C -H. No. If

37:33

you go to tarabrock.com, she

37:35

has like a list of meditations

37:37

that are wonderful. And

37:40

reflections where she talks about

37:42

certain uncomfortable feelings. And I

37:45

just find her to be

37:47

a very, a source of

37:49

steadiness for me. It's so

37:51

interesting what you said about

37:53

not having familial support. I

37:56

was literally just thinking about

37:58

that last night, I think.

38:02

So I was thinking about sort

38:04

of all the changes that have

38:06

happened in my life in the

38:08

last couple of years, namely losing

38:10

both parents. But in the wake

38:12

of that, there's been sort of

38:14

more conflicts, which is so common,

38:16

but popping up here and there

38:18

among me and family. And

38:20

so really right now, I

38:23

don't feel like I have familial

38:25

support either. And

38:27

I think what I've

38:29

realized is I don't think

38:31

I ever really did.

38:33

It's just now it's more

38:35

concrete because they're gone,

38:37

literally. this

38:50

family that I created,

38:52

Daniel and my kids,

38:54

but really it does

38:57

need to come from

38:59

inside because you can't,

39:01

maybe this is too

39:03

dark. Speaking of dark,

39:05

I don't think you

39:07

can or should depend

39:09

wholly on another person.

39:13

Would you agree? Yes.

39:16

Yeah. Like that's just

39:18

a recipe for. Because you're

39:20

making them responsible for

39:23

your. Right. Yes. Right. Yeah.

39:25

And that's what any,

39:27

you know, a therapist would

39:29

say is that especially

39:31

with the lack of. If

39:36

you didn't get the parenting that you feel

39:38

you needed or the this or the that,

39:40

like you, you do, you, you parent yourself,

39:42

you do it for yourself. So.

39:46

Because I think if you put it on

39:48

another person, you can be like, oh my

39:50

gosh, thank you. And then the minute they

39:52

slip, there's blame or there's, it brings up

39:54

the old stuff. Totally.

39:56

Yeah. Yeah. It's

39:58

interesting. I also would

40:00

myself getting jealous of people's

40:03

relationships with their parents

40:05

or around holidays and stuff,

40:07

you know, and people

40:09

are getting presents on their

40:11

birthdays. I

40:14

would think like, oh my

40:16

gosh. But then, but then I

40:18

also feel like, I feel like

40:20

I have a great relationship with

40:22

myself a lot of the

40:24

time when I'm not being hard

40:26

on myself. See, that's so good.

40:28

I feel like I'm working on

40:30

that right now. And I'm also,

40:33

I also had something kind of

40:35

cool happen. By the way,

40:37

do you still have like arguments

40:39

with your parents in your head?

40:41

Oh yeah. Me too. I just.

40:43

All I want is to be

40:45

understood. Yeah. And the chances

40:47

of that happening now are even

40:49

smaller than they were before. Yeah. I

40:51

have arguments with my mom in

40:53

my head. Remind me how long ago

40:56

died. My mom died in 2013. Okay.

40:58

So it's been now 12 years.

41:01

Wow. Yeah. Crazy.

41:03

Because it's time to wrap up the

41:05

conversation. We still haven't figured

41:07

it out. Yeah. Oh,

41:11

yeah. I'm

41:13

trying to remember. Sorry. I feel

41:16

like I, you were saying that something

41:18

cool happened. Yes. So the other

41:20

night, so I haven't done mush. I've

41:22

only done mushrooms once and it

41:24

was, I think like six months ago,

41:26

my friend and I did it

41:28

together. We did not hallucinate. We just

41:30

had an experience that felt really

41:32

heightened and wonderful. And we planned out

41:34

like a day together. I

41:36

can't remember if I talked about it here, but

41:38

I think we did. I think we did. So

41:41

I still had some of the

41:43

mushrooms and the other, about a week

41:45

ago, I thought I am going

41:47

to dip into this again and just

41:49

take one and try microdosing. I'm

41:51

sure there are people listening being like,

41:53

this is not a big deal

41:55

at all. Well, I've never done

41:58

them. So, and I'm so curious about

42:00

it. Yeah. Wasn't

42:03

Robin talking about the stuff? maybe. Oh

42:05

yeah, I love to do. Robin,

42:08

right? Yeah. Was she talking? Did she do

42:10

mushrooms all the time? I can't remember. maybe not.

42:12

I'm sorry. I do not. I don't want

42:14

to in. Yeah. She might have, though. There are

42:17

people who do them all the time. I

42:19

just don't remember which ones. There

42:21

was someone who I was on with who was

42:23

like, oh, yeah, we do psychedelics. She's

42:26

a boyfriend, right? Yeah. Maybe it was her.

42:28

Maybe it was Robin. Yeah. Maybe we'll ask

42:30

her. Okay. Anyway,

42:33

so I took one and I was

42:35

like, I just need to kind of

42:37

like. sort things out I just felt

42:39

a little discombobulated but I thought I'm

42:41

in a good enough place that I

42:43

can kind of so it was my

42:45

first time kind of going back into

42:47

my bedroom and you know what I

42:49

did also so this does tie it

42:51

in with the hotel because I used

42:53

to have a velvet like dusty rose

42:55

velvet comforter and I feel now maybe

42:57

that wasn't for me Now

43:00

I feel like I need

43:03

it to be just a normal

43:05

hotel room. So I got

43:07

a white duvet cover. I also

43:09

switched comforter from queen to

43:11

king because guess what? A queen

43:13

is too small for a

43:15

queen bed. It doesn't go over

43:18

the edges. You've been lied

43:20

to. And

43:22

I'm here to bring queen comforters

43:24

to justice. So

43:28

I got a white duvet. So I went in my bed.

43:30

I took one mushroom. And I was

43:32

sitting there. And I checked my email. And I

43:35

got an email about this writing class I've

43:37

been wanting to take for a long time. But

43:39

I've been like, once I have a normal

43:41

job, then I'll start to do this stuff. So

43:44

I just wrote and said, can I have

43:46

a scholarship? Ooh. And I

43:48

got one. Oh, wow. Look at that.

43:50

Just by asking for what you

43:52

wanted. Yes. But I feel like it

43:54

was the mushroom, too. What would

43:56

non -mushroom you have done? I

43:59

can't afford, like I can't do it right now.

44:01

It's not a good time. I need to wait.

44:05

You owe $3 ,000 to the

44:07

IRS. Yeah. Or

44:10

whatever. asked them for a scholarship?

44:12

Ask them. Seriously. I'm like, what? But

44:15

yeah, so I'm in a class

44:17

now, which feels really good because

44:19

I always feel like taking a

44:21

class, especially with the writing, like

44:23

that thing I'm talking about where

44:26

I'm like, I wrote. All

44:28

this material of

44:30

like vignettes and they're

44:32

just there. And

44:34

what am I doing? I'm becoming a

44:37

hoarder or something. That's what it makes

44:39

me feel like of not putting my

44:41

work out there. And I have some

44:43

submissions and I have, believe it or

44:45

not, an Excel spreadsheet. I

44:47

don't want to. I don't mean

44:49

to throw that at the listeners. This

44:51

is what I wish Daniel was here

44:53

for because he is the king of

44:55

spreadsheets. Oh, really? He knows all the

44:57

shortcuts. I mean, yeah. Okay. I want

44:59

to become better at spreadsheets. You

45:01

know what? I'm not making that a

45:03

goal. Forget it. That's for somebody else. Put

45:05

that in your paragraph. I

45:07

can't believe. Yeah. Yes.

45:10

That is so funny. I

45:13

am the master of spreadsheets.

45:16

I know. Hot keys. I

45:18

think that's a thing. Oh, my

45:20

gosh. I know hot keys. Tell me

45:22

about this class you're taking, the

45:24

writing class. Well, and

45:27

don't everyone go around and

45:29

asking for a scholarship. I'm

45:31

taking a class with this

45:33

guy. His name is Jack

45:35

Grapes. I like that name.

45:37

It's fun. Years ago, I

45:39

was in a class at

45:41

UCLA during the pandemic with

45:43

this woman who after this.

45:46

She was an amazing writer.

45:49

And she said, you should study with Jack

45:51

Grapes. I think you would really like

45:53

it. And so I got the book, but

45:55

I never took the class. Is

45:58

it writing? Oh, you know what? I signed up for

46:00

his class and then I ended up getting a writing

46:02

job. And I was like, I should take the one

46:04

where I'm making money. Right. Not spending it. Yeah. No,

46:07

it's anything. It's anything. And

46:09

it's called method writing. So it's

46:11

based on method acting. Oh,

46:13

that's neat. Yeah, it's interesting.

46:15

And it's, I don't know, there's

46:18

something about being in a class

46:20

that I really like. But I've

46:22

only had one class so far.

46:24

Is it in person? It's over

46:26

Zoom. Oh, wow. I need to

46:28

take a class. It's been a

46:30

while since I've taken any kind

46:32

of class. What was the last

46:34

class you took? I took a

46:37

voiceover class some months after Elliot

46:39

was born. This was pre -pandemic.

46:41

It was over at Kalmanson. Um,

46:43

just like a VO casting place

46:45

and a school. That

46:48

was, was that the last class I took?

46:50

That was literally the last class I took. Yeah.

46:52

Yeah. Do you know, Calvinson and Calvinson. I

46:54

don't think they're there anymore. Um, but they're like

46:56

voiceover people. Um, yeah.

46:59

And. Oh my gosh. I

47:01

want to hear one of your, one of

47:03

my VOs. Yeah. It wasn't character stuff.

47:05

It was like, um. what's

47:08

their little catchphrase? It's like the

47:10

business of voice acting. And

47:12

so it was about, it was

47:15

mostly commercial auditions, which then, because I

47:17

had a voiceover agent years ago.

47:19

I did a ton of voiceover auditions.

47:21

I did not book one thing. And

47:25

then I took the class way

47:27

after. And I was like, oh. Now

47:29

I know everything I did wrong.

47:31

But I thought, like, I remember, I

47:33

think it was a Crystal Light

47:35

ad or something. And I remember being

47:37

like, Crystal Light, you know, whatever,

47:39

like the flavor of something. And

47:41

I'm like, I have a

47:43

silky smooth voice. And what

47:45

the class taught us, in

47:47

addition to a lot of

47:49

other things, was that announcer

47:51

-y voice, they don't want

47:54

that. They just want a

47:56

real person talking to one

47:58

real person. And also you

48:00

can come up with your

48:02

own line. Like, gosh,

48:04

I remember that summer that I

48:06

drank. This is not. Right. And

48:08

a display of my great voiceover

48:10

in case anyone's thinking here that

48:12

here they're getting it. But, you

48:14

know, like I stuck. I did

48:16

an announcer voice and I stuck

48:18

to the script. But really, I

48:20

think, according to them, to get

48:22

booked, it should. You can go

48:24

off script and just be a

48:26

regular person as a regular person

48:29

talking to one person. Yeah. Whereas

48:31

I often talk to a group

48:33

of people like I am doing

48:36

right now. That's kind of the

48:38

method of the writing book is

48:40

write how you talk also, which

48:42

I love. And I like to

48:44

do that anyway, because I feel

48:46

like anytime I start writing about

48:48

the mundane, it goes. dark

48:51

actually. I mean, it really, I

48:53

had a night the other night

48:55

that where I had a show

48:57

and there was so much, there

48:59

were so many interesting dynamics that

49:01

I probably, had I not written

49:03

the following day and had I

49:05

not sat down to write, I

49:07

probably would have just packed it

49:09

away and forgotten about it. But

49:12

breaking it down, I was like,

49:14

wow, there is so much at

49:16

play. in a single

49:18

evening. Yes. From the minute you're

49:20

getting ready and thinking about

49:22

the other person's behavior, how that's

49:24

affecting you. Maybe this is

49:26

leftover from that conversation we had

49:28

last week. And oh my

49:30

God, I'm thinking about how this

49:32

person texted me that they're

49:34

going to be there. Why didn't

49:36

they stay afterward? That was

49:38

so weird. Driving home, thinking, am

49:40

I like the guy I

49:43

had? I'm almost tentative

49:45

to say because I feel like

49:47

this person might be a

49:49

Lizzie consumer. But I had a

49:51

moment where I identified with

49:53

a character in a movie. And

49:56

I was kind of spinning about it,

49:59

wanting to leave a friend a voice memo.

50:01

But then my directions kept coming on

50:03

and cutting me off. Oh, that happens me

50:05

all the time. Oh, my God. So

50:07

essentially, I don't know where it's coming from.

50:09

I'm so sorry. Essentially,

50:12

it's on do not disturb. I've

50:15

asked to be left alone. What if

50:17

it's my phone making noise? It's

50:20

not, but what if it were?

50:22

And this is off. We've got the

50:24

watch off. I've learned my lesson.

50:26

I have a tale to tell. So

50:29

wait, tell us about, I got to

50:31

hear the Lizzie consumer. Well,

50:35

I'm just going to say

50:37

to anyone who wants to

50:39

come to a show. If

50:43

you want to know where to park, there's

50:45

a website. If you

50:47

want to know what time

50:49

to get there, I'm not

50:52

movie phone. I'm not

50:54

Google Maps. I

50:56

am not the reservation

50:58

desk. I get

51:00

messages that, speaking of

51:02

a pinball ball,

51:04

pinball locked and loaded.

51:07

fire the worst synapses in my brain.

51:09

And I do not want to

51:11

know. If you come, I'll see you

51:13

after and I'll be thrilled. Did

51:15

you post about this recently? Someone, a

51:17

comedian posted about something like this.

51:19

I don't know if it was you

51:21

or not, though. I don't think

51:23

so, but other comedians also have this

51:25

experience and it can be really

51:27

overwhelming. I don't like, all I need

51:29

to do is look at my

51:31

notes and I actually had, was having

51:33

a really packed day um i

51:36

had work to do i had homework

51:38

for class i'm like i had

51:40

to do my homework um i was

51:42

going to see a friend before

51:44

her surgery and then i was like

51:46

okay at 4 p .m i'll prepare

51:48

for the show and instead i

51:50

just fell asleep and then i woke

51:52

up like oh my god i

51:54

said i'd be there at 6 15

51:56

to set up i don't have

51:58

my clothes i don't have my set

52:00

this is so anxiety inducing i

52:02

drive to the theater And,

52:04

you know, there's, it's a

52:06

one hour. I bring my stuff in to

52:08

do tech. I'm backstage. And then I'm like, oh

52:11

my God, I'm in a one hour meter

52:13

finding someone to go feed it because you can't

52:15

go out through this certain way in the

52:17

theater. You have to pass everyone in the audience.

52:21

Anyway, and then conversations in the green

52:23

room and those dynamics and stuff like

52:25

that, which is, I love all of

52:27

it. And then me putting

52:29

on my headphones, listening to a set

52:31

from last summer that I never

52:34

transcribed of new material, thinking maybe I

52:36

can add some of that in

52:38

and then being like, why didn't I

52:40

just do this today? Why

52:43

do I always, I

52:45

really have trouble with

52:47

prioritizing. And sometimes

52:49

when I, you know, get to

52:51

the coffee shop or to

52:54

work, I get into flow state

52:56

on something completely different. yeah

53:00

like right now I'll tell you

53:02

also I wrote an ad campaign

53:04

recently for a major retailer that's

53:06

what it says on my resume

53:08

global retailer and I really loved

53:11

it so I was putting together

53:13

a portfolio so I can send

53:15

out to do more of that

53:17

that's cool And

53:19

I got in flow state, putting the

53:21

portfolio together. And then some things

53:23

I read inspired me. So I was

53:26

writing off those. And it just

53:28

turned into this highly creative day, but

53:30

had nothing to do with my

53:32

preparation for the show. So when I

53:34

was on stage, I think I

53:36

did a couple new things, but not

53:38

as much new as I wanted.

53:40

And then I managed to flog myself

53:42

mentally for that as well, driving

53:44

home going. Why did you do that?

53:46

Why didn't you, or why didn't

53:48

you remember to do that one joke

53:51

that you wanted to, like, it

53:53

was just a maze. I'm hearing so

53:55

much self -recrimination, Lizzie. And that's why

53:57

I need the parrot thing at

53:59

night. Yeah. Because part of the reason

54:01

I did that, it's, that's true.

54:03

And part of the reason, thank you,

54:06

part of the reason I did

54:08

those jokes is because I need

54:10

footage. of my jokes before

54:12

i say goodbye forever i need

54:14

one thing to put online but

54:16

i just sometimes you have a

54:18

fire and sometimes you're like rubbing

54:20

sticks together before you say goodbye

54:22

forever do you mean like sorry

54:24

what kind of goodbye are we

54:26

saying there are certain jokes that

54:28

i know my set will go

54:30

better if i open with them

54:32

or that's the story i've told

54:34

myself i think i found a

54:37

substitute finally but i used i

54:39

was forever opening with this joke

54:41

about the pizza tracker i know

54:43

it's such an intimate experience and

54:45

uh and it set the tone

54:47

for my act it made people

54:49

go oh okay i kind of

54:51

get where what this is going

54:53

to be like stylistically and what

54:55

the humor is like it just

54:57

felt like it was a little

54:59

abstract but it was relatable enough

55:01

that you could come with me

55:03

for the rest and I did

55:05

that joke like in the middle

55:07

of my set where it didn't

55:09

feel like it belonged I'm sorry

55:11

if this is too mechanical but

55:13

I also much like I am

55:15

a pinball and that's how I

55:17

feel often on stage too especially

55:19

when I'm not I don't think

55:21

I ever unless I it was

55:23

like an album recording or a

55:25

long you know, show that

55:28

I was doing solo or something.

55:30

Go, I'm doing this joke, then

55:32

this joke. I never order it

55:34

because things happen in the room

55:36

organically. Maybe something happens, you

55:38

start talking to someone and you have

55:40

a joke. So it's just,

55:42

it's always just an experience.

55:44

That's so interesting. So

55:46

that joke kind of came up out of

55:49

nowhere and then I could feel my guilt

55:51

about doing this old joke that My

55:53

justification for doing it was, well, maybe

55:55

I'll get a tape of it finally. I

55:57

see. So you need footage before you

55:59

retire a joke. Yes. I thought that you

56:01

meant before you shuffle off this mortal

56:04

coil. And then I like, I don't think

56:06

she means that. But maybe before you

56:08

say goodbye forever. I want

56:10

to put another album

56:12

out this year, I

56:14

think. And then, yeah.

56:17

So I need to be focusing on the

56:19

new. I have

56:21

to feed TikTok and I don't have footage

56:23

because last summer in August, I was

56:25

like, I'm going to do an hour of

56:27

new material. I

56:30

had a friend. I remember.

56:32

Oh, yeah. And the tape

56:34

didn't, let's just say it

56:36

didn't come out. I've also

56:38

invited someone to tape me

56:40

at a show. There was

56:42

no sound. Oh, God. I've

56:44

had a lot of really

56:46

unfortunate, disappointing technical

56:49

mishaps. Yeah. So

56:51

I'm trying to get out of that and

56:53

just be like, any opportunity I can get

56:55

footage, I should just do material. But then

56:57

sometimes it's like, but it's the moments. It's

56:59

all about the moments. And I need to

57:01

remember that. And the reason I'm there. Yeah.

57:05

Well, this is, I have been saying

57:07

I'm going to do video for,

57:09

I don't know, the longest fucking time.

57:11

And I have done it here

57:13

and there. And I

57:15

mean, you're sitting in front of

57:17

a gigantic light. the purpose of

57:19

which will be when I do

57:22

video. And there's

57:24

all these things that are holding me

57:26

back, but I think it's like, it

57:28

just does take you out of the

57:30

moment if you have an awareness of

57:32

cameras on you. And it

57:34

can be, you can navigate around it,

57:36

but it's like, is the podcast

57:38

about the video or is it about

57:41

the conversation in the room? Obviously

57:43

it's both. I know. I

57:46

did a podcast that was video. Another

57:50

Tylenol PM taken too late. I was like,

57:52

oh my God, I'm supposed to be there

57:54

in a half hour. I didn't have makeup

57:56

on. And I was like, you know what?

57:58

It's fine. It's not like. It

58:01

was like. Oh, no. It was

58:03

like. Like the video, I looked

58:05

like, you know what? No self.

58:07

No self -recrimination. No self -recrimination. Was

58:11

it widely? They shot me

58:13

from below. Why

58:16

would they do that? I was

58:18

like, I don't have that many chins.

58:23

Chelsea Peretti said something about... I

58:25

don't know where I... Maybe

58:27

I saw it in a comment,

58:29

but she said that she

58:32

didn't... on all her makeup for

58:34

one of her videos, one

58:36

of her video podcasts. And ever since

58:38

then, it like, she's been scared straight. So

58:40

now she's in, she like did full hair

58:42

and makeup. Yeah. It's

58:44

not going to be that big a deal, but

58:46

then it is. Oh yeah. And I almost wanted

58:48

to say, can you please take it down? And

58:50

then I was like, you know what? Let's

58:53

just go Pam Anderson. Yes.

58:55

But I'm not Pam. And

58:59

she's probably had work done. Yeah.

59:03

I mean, I know what you're saying. It is.

59:05

Anyway, it felt very. I

59:07

don't know. Yeah. The video element. It's

59:09

a whole racket. I have three of

59:11

the same outfit. You do. I wear

59:13

a black like jumper with straps and

59:15

then I just put a different shirt

59:17

on under it. It takes the

59:19

thinking out of it. I don't want to be

59:22

before a show being like, can I be funny

59:24

in this turtleneck? Like there's

59:26

just so many weird dynamics, you

59:28

know? Yeah. And

59:30

nobody once has ever said, she wore

59:32

that last time. Oh, no, people say,

59:34

people have commented. They have? I do not care.

59:36

And some people go, I love this thing that

59:38

you wear. And I'm like, yeah, I have three.

59:42

It's your thing. Yeah, I have a

59:44

couple of those. And then recently

59:46

I wore a long black dress and

59:48

that felt really interesting too. So

59:50

I might dip into that. fourth. There

59:52

might be a fourth. Maybe there's

59:54

a new one. Okay, so yesterday I

59:56

had... have been going down to

59:58

Orange County pretty much every weekend to

1:00:00

deal with my parents' house and

1:00:02

cleaning it out and getting it ready,

1:00:04

even a state sale and selling

1:00:06

it and all that stuff. But

1:00:09

we didn't go this past

1:00:11

weekend. And it was so, it

1:00:13

felt like a vacation. Saturday

1:00:15

was like the best day of

1:00:17

just being home and hanging

1:00:19

out and relaxing. And

1:00:22

then Sunday I woke

1:00:24

up and I was so

1:00:26

depressed. my

1:00:30

oh something that's happened in my

1:00:32

life since I've last seen you I've

1:00:34

gotten really into having fish tanks

1:00:36

we have two fish tanks in there

1:00:38

yeah I saw you had a

1:00:40

starfish yes in your yeah I do

1:00:42

so and I love posting pictures

1:00:44

of the starfish in different positions and

1:00:46

like putting little googly eyes on

1:00:48

it in the photo and stuff so

1:00:50

the starfish is not doing well

1:00:52

um it's got like a little I

1:00:55

don't know, like an injury in its

1:00:57

center. Like, I don't know if it's

1:00:59

like a little bacterial infection or I

1:01:01

don't know what's going on. Yeah. And

1:01:03

so yesterday his limbs were like swollen

1:01:06

and I could just, he just looked

1:01:08

different. And I was like, oh yeah.

1:01:10

Or it, he or she or it.

1:01:12

I don't know what it identifies as.

1:01:14

I know what his gender is. It

1:01:17

looked really bad. And I was like,

1:01:19

oh no. And I know that like,

1:01:21

I don't think you can. I don't

1:01:23

think there's anything you can do for

1:01:25

a starfish bacterial infection. Is

1:01:28

the starfish in there with other

1:01:30

fish? It is. So it's not separate

1:01:32

tanks? No. Okay, that's good. Why?

1:01:34

Well, I just saw this animal psychic

1:01:36

on Instagram or something. She goes,

1:01:38

so the thing about fish, I know

1:01:40

she was like, a lot of

1:01:43

people are like, don't put them in

1:01:45

a tank. If they're with friends

1:01:47

and you've given them a nice environment,

1:01:49

they can be very happy. In

1:01:51

there. I feel like mine are really

1:01:53

happy. Okay. She said they were

1:01:55

sending her that message. Okay, good. Okay,

1:01:58

good. So I was like, I

1:02:00

think I'm really depressed. because of

1:02:02

the starfish i feel really defeated

1:02:04

i love that i'm enjoying the

1:02:07

fish so much but i think

1:02:09

i might just be too sensitive

1:02:11

for this hobby that's filled with

1:02:13

tons of little deaths and i

1:02:15

think also i am like also

1:02:17

speaking of joan didion i felt

1:02:19

like yeah i know i was

1:02:22

remembering that she wrote that whole

1:02:24

book about grief also i think

1:02:26

that I am seemingly more sad

1:02:28

about the starfish than my mom

1:02:30

because I think it's easier sometimes

1:02:32

to feel grief about other losses

1:02:35

than like the main loss. So

1:02:37

I was just like, yeah, I'm

1:02:39

just and I and I had

1:02:41

a good attitude about my bad

1:02:43

attitude of just like. just

1:02:45

going to take it easy with myself.

1:02:47

I'm just, feelings are like the weather and

1:02:50

I'm just going to accept that I'm

1:02:52

feeling really bad. And then it got like

1:02:54

worse and worse and worse. And that

1:02:56

is the point at which I decided to

1:02:58

write in my journal, AKA opened up

1:03:00

an email and just wrote it in my

1:03:02

drafts. But what came out, what,

1:03:05

cause sometimes I get really like pent

1:03:07

up with my feelings. I'm like, I just

1:03:09

need to like pour it all out.

1:03:11

What came out was I am so, so

1:03:16

angry. It was anger that came

1:03:18

out, not sadness. And I

1:03:20

was surprised by that because I

1:03:22

was, the feelings I was

1:03:24

experiencing, and it's not like I

1:03:26

haven't been experiencing anger. Like

1:03:28

I have a lot of anger

1:03:30

about things that have happened

1:03:32

since my mom died and the

1:03:34

fact that she died, but,

1:03:36

and the circumstances and blah, blah,

1:03:38

blah. But what's weird is

1:03:41

I, thought that i was depressed

1:03:43

because it was sadness but

1:03:45

it was actually anger and i

1:03:47

know that some people say

1:03:49

anger it's a product of fear

1:03:51

oh is that what they

1:03:53

say and shame i think i

1:03:55

think anger is fear fear

1:03:57

and shame yeah or maybe sadness

1:03:59

well that's the thing is

1:04:01

that i've heard that like anger

1:04:03

can mask sadness or sadness

1:04:05

can mask anger. I think it can

1:04:08

be either way. And I think my depression

1:04:10

and sadness is masking anger unless I'm

1:04:12

actually not in touch with what I'm actually

1:04:14

feeling. And beneath the anger, there's something

1:04:16

else. But after I got it out, just

1:04:18

sort of realized that I was like,

1:04:20

I felt a lot better. What? It's

1:04:24

really interesting. Do

1:04:27

you guys, do you more

1:04:29

easily experience sadness or anger

1:04:31

or neither? Did you to

1:04:33

say something, Jeff? Do

1:04:35

I experience one more than the

1:04:37

other? Yeah. Or do you find

1:04:39

yourself more easily experiencing one than

1:04:41

the other? I experience both of

1:04:43

them, but I think that as

1:04:45

a guy, it's much more permissible

1:04:47

to have anger. That's really the

1:04:49

only emotion that guys are really

1:04:51

allowed to have. So I think

1:04:54

most guys are. more comfortable

1:04:56

feeling anger and expressing anger

1:04:58

because you're not really allowed

1:05:00

to have any other emotions

1:05:02

right and it might be the

1:05:04

opposite for women yeah exactly

1:05:06

exactly oh you're back what

1:05:08

about you something that when

1:05:10

you're talking about the starfish

1:05:12

i'm thinking about i don't

1:05:14

know if you ever saw in

1:05:16

treatment with gabriel burn we

1:05:18

watched the first season right

1:05:20

yeah i loved that show

1:05:22

the gabriel burn version I

1:05:24

just watched, yeah, the first

1:05:27

three seasons. And then it

1:05:29

changed to a different therapist.

1:05:31

It's not the same. But

1:05:33

I commend them for putting

1:05:35

in the afternoon. It

1:05:37

just didn't have the same vibe. Oh,

1:05:41

yeah, because it's in New York. It takes

1:05:43

place in New York. I feel like with him,

1:05:45

there's something about him being... Something

1:05:47

about really it needed to be a white

1:05:50

man. You know what I mean? As the lead.

1:05:52

Really? We need to finally hear from a

1:05:54

white man. I'm so tired of all these. When

1:05:56

are we going to get some say? I

1:05:58

think that the next. Anyway.

1:06:01

I love Gabriel Burnin. And I have

1:06:03

not watched all of season four. So

1:06:05

I shouldn't say that. I think

1:06:07

I just was so attached to him

1:06:10

as this therapist. There's a bit of.

1:06:12

Well, it left. The season three ended

1:06:14

a bit on a. I

1:06:16

kind of wanted to see what happened to that

1:06:18

character. Absolute cliffhanger because he

1:06:20

goes to see a new therapist

1:06:22

played by Amy Ryan who is

1:06:24

wonderful. Yes. But

1:06:28

when I was watching that show,

1:06:30

I felt like I was going

1:06:32

through therapy. Like some of

1:06:34

the stuff that came up, I would

1:06:37

pause and be like, like it was

1:06:39

allowing me. I don't

1:06:41

know. I just thought this is. It's

1:06:43

crazy how many different things this is.

1:06:45

Are you suggesting that I'm the starfish?

1:06:48

Wait, this is relating to starfish? No,

1:06:50

I think that sometimes we just need

1:06:53

to let it out wherever we can.

1:06:55

We don't always know what it is.

1:06:57

It's almost like a plumbing system where

1:06:59

it's like... It could have been

1:07:01

any neighbor who did this. It could be

1:07:03

any thought. And we just need to root it

1:07:05

and take care of it and cleanse the

1:07:07

system. That's what I thought. I thought yesterday, I

1:07:09

need to have a good cry. Maybe I

1:07:11

need to watch Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants, which

1:07:13

really brought me to tears when I watched

1:07:15

it in the theater years ago. Really? Yes. But

1:07:19

it turned out it was anger,

1:07:21

not tears that I needed to have,

1:07:23

at least in that moment. Daniel.

1:07:28

What's going on in your neck of

1:07:30

the woods? Welcome back. Hi. Just

1:07:32

talked about a lot of stuff. Lizzie

1:07:34

has a spreadsheet. And I said,

1:07:36

I know. And I said, it's a

1:07:38

shame you weren't here. That's

1:07:41

exciting. Well, I have

1:07:43

two actually. I have one for

1:07:45

my tarot clients so that I remember

1:07:47

a lot of times where we

1:07:49

left off. Sometimes I update it. Sometimes

1:07:51

I don't. And then

1:07:53

I also have for poetry submissions. Now,

1:07:55

that was me, even though I turned

1:07:57

this off. I'm sorry. That's okay. It

1:08:00

was very slight. automatically and

1:08:02

kind of magical. It did

1:08:04

sound like maybe I did turn it on.

1:08:06

I don't know. All right.

1:08:08

Let's do Hey, Go

1:08:11

Fuck Yourself because my understanding

1:08:13

is some people have

1:08:15

some. Jeff.

1:08:17

I have one. Let's hear it.

1:08:19

been sitting on for a while.

1:08:21

So there's a restaurant in Silver

1:08:24

Lake called the Pijja Palace, P -I

1:08:26

-J -J -A Palace. So it's some

1:08:28

kind of fusion pizza, Indian food

1:08:30

place. One of these hipster places.

1:08:32

And, you know, you have to wait forever

1:08:34

to get in there. It's like Indian pizza? That's

1:08:38

interesting. Yeah, it's fun. So I

1:08:41

went there with some friends. Because

1:08:43

they had a reservation for three and

1:08:45

then their daughter couldn't make it. And then

1:08:47

like they would get in trouble with

1:08:49

the restaurant if they didn't actually use three.

1:08:51

So they invited me to come along. Also

1:08:54

we're friends. But so on the menu,

1:08:56

there's a couple of layers here. So bear

1:08:58

with me. On the menu on

1:09:00

the lower left, asterisk, a service charge

1:09:02

of 19 % is added to your

1:09:04

final check. Okay. That's a little

1:09:06

obnoxious, but these things happen. Okay.

1:09:08

Whatever. Underneath

1:09:10

that, asterisk, cards only. Also,

1:09:13

like, go fuck myself. Okay, I got

1:09:15

it. But all right, fine. It happens. This

1:09:17

is the new world that we're living

1:09:19

in. Also on

1:09:21

the menu, they talk about the

1:09:24

different pizzas you can order. And then

1:09:26

it says, our way, 12 -inch round.

1:09:28

We kindly refuse substitutions. Doesn't sound

1:09:30

very kind to me. Yeah. Is that

1:09:32

like, I understand there's no substitutions,

1:09:34

but isn't that kind of an extra

1:09:36

dicky way to say it? Also,

1:09:38

it's pizza. You're just

1:09:40

throwing something on top. And also,

1:09:42

I'll decide if it's kind. To

1:09:45

all the pizza chefs out there, I

1:09:47

didn't mean to insult your craft. Right. Here's

1:09:51

the topper. Oh, and by

1:09:53

the way, so 19 % service charge added to

1:09:55

your bill. The service was fine, but when

1:09:57

the waiter came with the thing, he stands

1:09:59

there with the card, and then it prompts

1:10:01

you even to tip on top of the

1:10:03

tip, and the guy's standing there giving us

1:10:05

the hairy eyeball. this, Ticketmaster? Yeah. What's going

1:10:07

on here, you know? I thought

1:10:09

it, but I didn't say it, but

1:10:11

my friend said it, thankfully. They said, you

1:10:14

know, usually we tip, I mean, they

1:10:16

didn't say it to the waiter, but they

1:10:18

said, you know, usually we tip more

1:10:20

than 20%, but like, fuck you, you know,

1:10:22

like you're sweating me now. So now,

1:10:24

okay, you get 19 then if you're going

1:10:26

to twist my arm about it. Here's

1:10:28

the icing on the cake under the wing

1:10:30

section of the menu. So there are

1:10:32

three things listed, three items. And then underneath

1:10:34

it, it says, I'm not making this

1:10:36

up. This is verbatim. Hi, Avish here. This

1:10:38

is a reminder that we have a

1:10:40

19 % all caps service charge. I

1:10:43

put this under the wing section

1:10:45

so you can fly your ass out

1:10:47

of here if you don't like

1:10:49

it. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Who

1:10:51

owns this place? I guess Avish. Avish

1:10:55

is very confrontational. So you can fly

1:10:57

your ass out of here if you don't

1:10:59

like it. This

1:11:01

harkens back to that kindly thing. I don't

1:11:03

feel like any of this is kindly. No,

1:11:05

it's super dicky, all of it. And it

1:11:07

escalates in its dickiness. fly my ass. Yeah,

1:11:09

I know. Where can I take you? our

1:11:12

next class I take. Lizzie,

1:11:14

fly your ass. It's one thing that

1:11:16

there's 19 % or whatever, but then it's

1:11:18

like all these extra laps. And then this

1:11:20

guy goes out of his way to

1:11:22

do this clever fuck you in the wing

1:11:24

section to remind you that, by the

1:11:26

way, you're paying 19 % whether you like

1:11:28

it or not. And I'm being a dick

1:11:30

about it. hate that. That pushed me

1:11:32

over the edge. I hate that. So, hey,

1:11:34

Abish. Hey. Hey. Hey.

1:11:36

Go fuck yourself. The

1:11:38

service charge, is that supposed to be

1:11:40

the gratuity? Or is that some

1:11:42

sort of, like, you know, other

1:11:44

charge and then you're supposed to tip on

1:11:46

top of that? Because I wouldn't. Well, they

1:11:48

didn't. Well, they call it a service charge,

1:11:50

whatever that is. But if I order an

1:11:52

amount of food and you add 19 %

1:11:54

to it. For no clear reason. That's the

1:11:56

tip as far as I'm concerned. Me too.

1:11:58

Yeah. But they're not calling it a tip.

1:12:01

not calling it gratuity. They're calling it a

1:12:03

service charge. It gets in that squishy area

1:12:05

where you go like, oh, is that –

1:12:07

am I supposed to add on top of

1:12:09

that? So all of this is – Build

1:12:11

your fucking service charge into the price of

1:12:13

the food, motherfucker. Like that's how that's supposed

1:12:15

to work. Don't tack it on to the

1:12:17

end. And I've seen – you see things

1:12:19

where it's like for parties of six or

1:12:21

more, we add – you know, we'll automatically

1:12:23

add your tip in or whatever. I don't

1:12:25

know why it's like, I don't know. I

1:12:27

guess, I guess weight staff gets stiffed. I

1:12:29

don't know. But if you're going to automatically

1:12:31

force a tip onto the bill, that's fine.

1:12:33

But like, you don't have to rub my

1:12:35

nose in it. But then raise the price

1:12:37

of your food a little bit. Like why,

1:12:39

this is what I don't understand. Why have

1:12:41

this whole thing that's only going to piss

1:12:44

off customers? when you could just...

1:12:46

Because everything they do pisses off

1:12:48

customers. That's my point. Charge everything more

1:12:50

by 19%. This entire restaurant is

1:12:52

based on... This is like dating a

1:12:54

super hot girl that never stops

1:12:56

reminding you how hot she is and

1:12:58

how lucky you are to be

1:13:00

with her. Is this a very... Is

1:13:02

it hard to get into this

1:13:04

place? Yeah. Is it

1:13:06

good? The food was great, yeah. Well,

1:13:09

fuck them anyway. Was it Indian

1:13:11

food as a pizza? Or is it

1:13:13

just... made by an indian person it

1:13:15

the the concept i believe is that

1:13:17

it's supposed to be kind of like

1:13:20

sports bar type food so there's like

1:13:22

wings pizzas tender sliders and things like

1:13:24

that but then there's some kind of

1:13:26

indian fusion in it um but so

1:13:28

this is basically a tip is supposed

1:13:30

to be voluntary or at your discretion

1:13:32

and they just force it onto the

1:13:34

bill which i i guess people do

1:13:37

that now um but boy is this

1:13:39

a dicky way to go about it

1:13:41

yeah it should be like hi i'm

1:13:43

avish Reminder, there's a 19

1:13:45

% service charge. Thank you

1:13:47

so much for patronizing our spot. But

1:13:49

also, since when does anyone call

1:13:51

themselves out in a menu? Like, I've

1:13:53

never been reading a menu. Hi,

1:13:55

I'm Janiel. I designed this menu. Like,

1:13:57

they never do that. Yeah, that's

1:13:59

even worse because it's like, it's such

1:14:01

a fuck you to you. And

1:14:03

then it's also like, check my shit

1:14:05

out. Oh, look at how funny

1:14:07

I am. You know, you're so lucky

1:14:09

to be here. But also, it's

1:14:12

like assuming you're going to be a

1:14:14

dick about it, which makes me

1:14:16

feel. like okay then I will be

1:14:18

a dick like I was gonna

1:14:20

just suck it up but now you're

1:14:22

talking shit to me like this

1:14:24

fuck you yeah does anyone else need

1:14:26

to tell someone where they can

1:14:28

stick it I mean I'm mad at

1:14:30

my neighbor can it be that

1:14:32

personal oh my god we're not allowed

1:14:34

to have dogs I live in

1:14:36

a duplex we're not allowed to have

1:14:38

dogs and I follow the rules

1:14:40

because I'm scared of being arrested But

1:14:43

all I've wanted is a dog.

1:14:45

Like, I really feel that it's

1:14:47

time in my life to, you

1:14:49

know, have a dog. And I've

1:14:51

considered moving because of it. And

1:14:53

a couple months ago, I walked

1:14:55

outside. My neighbor, who was on

1:14:57

the other side, had a dog.

1:14:59

And he has kids and stuff.

1:15:01

He's a single dad. And

1:15:03

it was a little puppy, like a French bulldog. Really

1:15:05

cute. And I was like, oh, my gosh. I was like,

1:15:07

is that yours? And he goes, yeah. And

1:15:09

I said, so you got a dog? I go, that's so

1:15:11

crazy. I go, part of the reason I didn't get one is

1:15:13

I thought you would tell on me. Thinking

1:15:15

like he's just kind of out there

1:15:17

in the open. Right. Now having this dog.

1:15:20

And I was like, okay, whatever. You know,

1:15:22

good for him. That's his choice. You

1:15:24

know, maybe she'll, she does

1:15:26

come by sometimes. I don't really

1:15:29

know what his plan is.

1:15:31

Like if, if, if something were

1:15:33

to happen, he's also not

1:15:35

really that friendly. You know,

1:15:37

like I've I've texted him for like, hey,

1:15:39

the neighbor. I

1:15:41

think there might be a gas leak.

1:15:43

The like, you know, the company's asking

1:15:46

if you smell anything on your side.

1:15:48

No, no response. Like he's just not.

1:15:51

I don't know. Who knows? I might

1:15:53

come across like an insane person. I

1:15:55

don't know. My neighbors might just be

1:15:57

like, what's her job? No, he might

1:15:59

just be unfriendly. OK, so

1:16:01

I. I

1:16:03

the other I've been. Not said

1:16:05

a word to the landlady. The other

1:16:07

day I noticed I'm walking out

1:16:09

of my apartment. There's like crap all

1:16:12

over the yard. And

1:16:14

I was like, no, I'm keeping

1:16:16

your secret. Yeah. You

1:16:18

know what? And I was also having a

1:16:20

day where I woke up with a sprained

1:16:22

thumb and stuff. I was just like, and

1:16:24

he pulled up in his car and he

1:16:27

got out and I just go, there's shit

1:16:29

all over the yard. And I put my

1:16:31

headphones on and kept walking. And

1:16:34

I came back and he was kind of

1:16:36

surprised looking up at me. And then when

1:16:38

I came back, it was gone. Good. And

1:16:40

I realized by not saying you let your,

1:16:42

I just let him know. Oh, by the

1:16:44

way, there's shit all over the yard. I

1:16:47

could have been saying, watch your

1:16:49

step. Yeah. Right. Someone's tiny dog

1:16:51

left shit that could only come out

1:16:53

of a tiny dog everywhere. Be

1:16:56

careful, some inconsiderate person left their dog

1:16:58

shit all over the place. Yeah, exactly,

1:17:00

exactly. That's kind of nuts. I left

1:17:02

the pronouns out. I had no blame.

1:17:04

So, Lizzie's neighbor. Hey,

1:17:07

hey, hey, go fuck

1:17:09

yourself. That's really bold

1:17:12

of him to leave shit all over

1:17:14

a shared yard when he's not

1:17:16

even supposed to dog. That's pretty wild,

1:17:18

yeah. I know, I know. I

1:17:20

would be like hyper attentive I know.

1:17:22

I'm sincerely considering moving. because

1:17:25

the thing is, I would get caught. I

1:17:27

know I'd get a dog, not realize it

1:17:29

was a barky one. I would leave. The

1:17:31

dog would be in the window. I can

1:17:33

just see it happening. Daniel,

1:17:38

do you need to tell anyone to go fuck

1:17:40

themselves? I don't need to. Would

1:17:42

you want to? Nothing's

1:17:45

on my mind right now. All right, then let's do

1:17:47

Just Me or Everyone. Something

1:17:53

I have thought or

1:17:55

done. Is it

1:17:57

just me or

1:18:00

everyone? It's time

1:18:02

for just me or everyone. Lizzie, do

1:18:04

you have one? Yeah, I have

1:18:06

two, but I'll go with one. We'll

1:18:09

see if we want to make it a

1:18:11

two -part of a series. This

1:18:15

actually could have been an F

1:18:18

also. Is it just me or everyone?

1:18:20

I do not like when

1:18:23

social media, Pinterest tries

1:18:25

to convince me that it's

1:18:27

a good idea to

1:18:29

eat in the bathtub. Stop

1:18:32

telling me to eat in the

1:18:34

bathtub. Stop showing me a slab

1:18:36

of wood over the bathtub. With

1:18:38

a salad on it. Did you

1:18:40

see the one of that guy

1:18:42

who dunks his face in the

1:18:45

ice water that went viral a

1:18:47

couple weeks ago? And

1:18:49

he shows his whole morning routine

1:18:51

and then his whole evening routine, and

1:18:53

it's very Patrick Bateman. But

1:18:55

what does that have to do with eating in the bathtub?

1:18:58

He has a whole thing where he eats his dinner of steak

1:19:00

in the bathtub. So let me tell you. In

1:19:02

my mind, I'm like, okay,

1:19:04

so you fill the bathtub.

1:19:08

You somehow place the slab

1:19:10

over, get in under

1:19:12

it, as the temperature slowly

1:19:14

goes down. What? You're

1:19:17

eating a burger. You're

1:19:19

washing yourself. Now you've got a

1:19:21

soggy bun. What? You're

1:19:23

going to drop a linguine noodle in

1:19:25

the bathtub. Now you've got like

1:19:27

what looks like a tapeworm next to

1:19:29

you. You've got Parmesan scented water.

1:19:31

What is happening and how in God's

1:19:34

name. With this slab over you,

1:19:36

are you supposed to then reach over

1:19:38

and adjust the temperature? Yeah, because

1:19:40

it's going to be getting cold as

1:19:42

your food gets cold. Yes, as

1:19:44

your food gets cold. It's just like

1:19:47

you are setting yourself up for

1:19:49

a Rube Goldberg machine of terror horror.

1:19:51

you seen Gummo? The

1:19:53

movie Gummo? No. Has

1:19:56

anyone seen Gummo here? I

1:19:58

feel like there'd be more of

1:20:00

a resounding reaction. Harmony Corrine,

1:20:02

second movie after kids. highly

1:20:05

recommend i think you i would

1:20:07

be really might turn this into

1:20:10

a chunk because i i feel

1:20:12

in incense and rose petals yeah

1:20:14

i don't need to be bathing

1:20:16

with you know foliage that can

1:20:18

cause possible allergic reactions i just

1:20:21

there's nothing appetizing about the scent

1:20:23

of shampoo well some shampoo is

1:20:25

kind of fruity but still like

1:20:27

the combination of clean cleaning products

1:20:29

and a hearty meal no even

1:20:31

drinking in the bathtub don't i

1:20:34

go say There's a reason

1:20:36

you can't bring glassware next to a

1:20:38

swimming pool. Yeah. I know because I

1:20:40

broke a glass near the pool when

1:20:42

I worked at a hotel. Near

1:20:44

the pool. Not in. I'm

1:20:46

sure not. We didn't

1:20:49

even think about it. We were

1:20:51

just like, and yeah, they have to

1:20:53

drain the whole. Oh, wow. Oh,

1:20:55

my God. Just make

1:20:57

the bath its own

1:20:59

thing. Don't center. This

1:21:01

is not going to prevent Alzheimer's to bathe

1:21:03

while eating. Right. No. It's not the same.

1:21:05

Or it's not worth it even if it

1:21:07

does. Yeah. I want to

1:21:09

make it a twofer. Okay. Yeah. What's

1:21:11

your other one? My other one is,

1:21:14

is anyone out there using chat GPT

1:21:16

as their therapist? Oh, I think everyone

1:21:18

is. Everyone who's using it is. We

1:21:20

talked about this last week. You did?

1:21:23

Yeah. I'm not. But the

1:21:25

more personal your relationship

1:21:27

with chat GPT, the more.

1:21:30

tailored to you your experience with

1:21:32

chat gbt will become my

1:21:34

history is harrowing should we be

1:21:36

worried about the the security

1:21:38

concerns of this because i feel

1:21:40

like we're all just like saying

1:21:42

whatever on there if i

1:21:44

tried doing this i would create

1:21:46

a separate anonymous dummy account to

1:21:48

sort of try to isolate

1:21:50

all that content yeah i was

1:21:52

working out an idea on there

1:21:55

and i said do you

1:21:57

keep this private and it's like

1:21:59

yes I never use your idea.

1:22:01

I never tell anyone else your ideas. Of

1:22:03

course it's going to say that. But

1:22:05

here's the thing. Think

1:22:07

it through for a second. Like who

1:22:09

would be using that data? Well, whoever

1:22:11

would be using it is someone who

1:22:13

has access to AI tools. And you

1:22:15

could use AI tools to. basically

1:22:18

comb through all of your social media and

1:22:20

create a profile of you through that just

1:22:22

as easily as it could any conversation you

1:22:24

would have through chat gpt right but for

1:22:26

me the issue isn't who's going to use

1:22:28

it but the issue is just i deserve

1:22:30

to have this be private you know it's

1:22:32

not like oh i know that there's some

1:22:34

guy with a crazy plan that's going to

1:22:36

use this to put me in jail it's

1:22:39

just like if i'm going to be discussing

1:22:41

therapy type things i deserve to have it

1:22:43

private i don't care what could possibly happen

1:22:45

well yeah i deserve the guarantee that it

1:22:47

will be private and so i wouldn't do

1:22:49

it until i can i guess the question

1:22:51

is though like i mean mine always brings

1:22:53

up tarot it's like when it comes and

1:22:55

it's a lot like tarot i'm like you

1:22:57

don't have to bring up tarot did you

1:22:59

say that to it we get it because

1:23:01

i had because you know that i like

1:23:03

tarot you've established received clocked i was telling

1:23:05

daniel last night chat gpt always asks you

1:23:07

a question at the end And I find

1:23:09

that to be like, it always keeps the

1:23:11

conversation can tell it to not do that.

1:23:13

I know. I find that a little bit

1:23:15

annoying. And so I wanted to tell it.

1:23:17

And then I'm like, I don't want hurts

1:23:19

feelings. And then I remembered like, it's, it's

1:23:22

not a person. It's okay. I can. Can

1:23:24

you be rude to chat GPT? There was

1:23:26

something that happened on there that I thought,

1:23:28

this is a lot like quantum leaping. And

1:23:30

this is a way to quantum leap is

1:23:32

that you would ask chat GPT, say, these

1:23:34

are my goals. What

1:23:36

would my day have to look like

1:23:38

in order to accomplish it? And

1:23:40

it writes out a schedule for you

1:23:42

to live the life of that

1:23:44

person. can give you a full daily

1:23:47

or weekly or even like you

1:23:49

could say, this is what I want

1:23:51

to accomplish this year. These are

1:23:53

my time constraints. Give me

1:23:55

a plan that includes, you know.

1:23:57

The idea that I might get

1:24:00

burned out, like rest and recharging

1:24:02

I'm just over here asking it

1:24:04

if my coral looks normal and

1:24:06

then I upload a photo. No,

1:24:09

it can shape your existence. I need

1:24:11

to shape my existence. my coral looks

1:24:13

normal. There's a lot of fish photos

1:24:15

I've been uploading. Tell

1:24:17

your chat. This kind of blew

1:24:20

my mind a little bit. I

1:24:24

have a little, I think it's

1:24:26

called a mushroom coral. in there and

1:24:28

it has all this like little

1:24:30

dimple in the center and i was

1:24:32

like is this normal and i

1:24:34

found out it is it's the coral's

1:24:36

mouth slash butt which is disgusting

1:24:38

but i didn't realize corals had a

1:24:40

mouth butt but anyway i uploaded

1:24:42

it and it's like you took a

1:24:44

picture and you uploaded it yeah

1:24:46

then it's like is that your cute

1:24:48

little green spotted puffer that i

1:24:51

spy in the background looking adorable and

1:24:53

curious because i have talked to

1:24:55

it about my green spotted puffer, but

1:24:57

that it like remembered that I

1:24:59

have a green spotted puffer and that

1:25:01

it saw it in the photo

1:25:03

and then assessed its expression. And

1:25:05

so chat GBT had previously only been

1:25:07

able to remember anything for like something

1:25:09

like six months. So if you had

1:25:11

a conversation with it about the puffer

1:25:13

nine months ago, it wouldn't have done

1:25:15

that. However, they just did an update

1:25:17

and the more memory. And so it

1:25:19

has more of a memory and the

1:25:21

more memory that it has. the

1:25:24

more of a companion relationship you're going to

1:25:26

have with your, you're, you could have with

1:25:28

it. I hate all of this. I have

1:25:30

to be honest. I fucking hate all of

1:25:32

this. I think it's so horrifying. Like people

1:25:34

are so amused by chat GPT. This

1:25:37

just looks like a dystopian nightmare, like unfolding

1:25:39

in front of us to me. I don't want,

1:25:41

I don't want anything to do with it.

1:25:43

I'm sorry. I, yeah. There

1:25:45

are a lot of what

1:25:47

you're saying is true, but there's

1:25:49

also, it's like the way

1:25:51

I look at it is, it's

1:25:55

horrible for like all the reasons

1:25:57

that you just said, but also, you

1:25:59

know, for copyright reasons and artists

1:26:01

being devalued and it's anti -human in

1:26:03

so many ways. However, this technology is

1:26:05

fucking mind blowing and like the

1:26:07

things that it can do and the

1:26:09

thing in the way that the

1:26:11

ways that it can be a tool

1:26:13

are, we're only just starting to,

1:26:15

it's like when the internet came on

1:26:17

board, it's like you, Maybe that

1:26:19

turned out to be shit, too. It

1:26:21

was like the internet had all

1:26:23

this promise of like, we're going to

1:26:25

have these grand open discussions and

1:26:27

come to meet each other. And it

1:26:29

was just like everybody yelling at

1:26:31

each other in comment sections turning into

1:26:33

everybody yelling at each other on

1:26:35

social media. It wasn't only that, though.

1:26:38

There's a huge downside underneath this

1:26:40

promise that everybody gets excited course, but

1:26:42

everything's going to have a downside. And

1:26:45

it's just a question of like,

1:26:47

what? Of course, yes, the internet

1:26:49

is horrible in many ways, but it's

1:26:51

also... changed all of our lives

1:26:53

like we have supercomputers in our pocket

1:26:56

so we can look up anything

1:26:58

in the whole fucking world that we

1:27:00

want at all times like it

1:27:02

changed it changed all of the world's

1:27:04

fucking like yeah culture and everything

1:27:06

and and so like there's like yes

1:27:09

there's the bad stuff but there's

1:27:11

the good stuff and there's just the

1:27:13

how is it going to change

1:27:15

things and you can you can ignore

1:27:18

it or be like i fucking hate

1:27:20

it or you could just try to

1:27:22

see what the hell this even is

1:27:24

and that's kind of where i'm at

1:27:26

i'm not like embracing it necessarily it

1:27:28

actually helped me it was something what

1:27:30

did it help you technical the other

1:27:32

day i just needed help working something

1:27:34

out for my portfolio like figuring out

1:27:36

something for a resume on there and

1:27:38

it helped me except it did use

1:27:40

the verb concepted oh i don't like

1:27:42

that i thought that's weird.

1:27:45

I said, I noticed you used

1:27:47

the word concept. It said, great

1:27:49

catch. Glad you caught that. And

1:27:51

then it said, that's a word

1:27:53

that's used sometimes in the copywriting

1:27:55

industry, but a lot of people

1:27:57

hate it. Here's something you could

1:27:59

say instead. The personality, such as

1:28:01

there is of Chattopity, I fucking

1:28:03

hate the personality that they've programmed

1:28:05

into it. It's trying to be

1:28:08

cool. It's

1:28:11

trying to be encouraging

1:28:13

and positive. I

1:28:15

was just asking it some questions. It was

1:28:17

like, oh, that's a great question. I

1:28:19

was like, before I ask my next question,

1:28:21

I'd like to ask you. I was

1:28:23

like, are you saying this? In order to

1:28:25

basically to ingratiate yourself because I don't

1:28:28

like that. I don't like it when someone's

1:28:30

trying to sell me something. I don't

1:28:32

like – and it was like noted. I'll

1:28:34

try to be more direct. I think

1:28:36

it's trying to be cool. I think Chachi

1:28:38

PT if it was a person would

1:28:40

be a stock photo of a guy leaning

1:28:42

back in a jean jacket. Yeah.

1:28:45

I know. That was crazy that

1:28:47

I said concepted. Want a cigarette?

1:28:49

I don't either. Let's throw these

1:28:51

away. Good catch, babe. Whatever

1:28:53

you want. Yeah, good catch, babe. Let's

1:28:55

move on to the next subject. Do you

1:28:58

want something with an edge or would you rather

1:29:00

it be more snappy and concise? There should be a

1:29:02

chunk yours. I think I'm going to do it.

1:29:04

Yeah, you should do that. I would love that. That's

1:29:06

so good. Jeff. Yeah,

1:29:08

please. An AI tool

1:29:10

that I like that you might not

1:29:12

hate is Google Notebook where it's not

1:29:14

like one of the – it's not

1:29:16

like ChatGPT. You have to – can

1:29:19

upload like a PDF or something like

1:29:21

I uploaded this like 300 page book.

1:29:23

And then you fall in love with

1:29:25

the wrong. No. And what it does

1:29:27

is it'll it'll summarize it'll understand it.

1:29:29

And then you can ask questions of

1:29:32

it. So if there's something you don't

1:29:34

want to read, but you're doing research

1:29:36

and you want to and you want

1:29:38

it to go through it really quickly

1:29:40

and be like, give me a summary

1:29:42

of what it's talking about here. And

1:29:44

then you can ask it questions and

1:29:47

stuff like that. So it's almost like.

1:29:49

an interpretive tool that can help speed

1:29:51

along research. I

1:29:53

just want to learn it myself. I don't

1:29:55

want to ask a computer for advice. And

1:29:57

when you ask a computer for advice, you're

1:29:59

asking... But I'm not talking about advice. When

1:30:02

you ask a computer for advice, you're asking a

1:30:04

tech bro for advice because it is the brain of

1:30:06

a tech bro. And I don't need to ask

1:30:08

tech bros for advice. I'll figure it out myself. Every

1:30:11

doctor's appointment I've been to

1:30:13

in the last maybe year...

1:30:16

They start by saying, is it okay

1:30:18

if I have an AI note -taking app?

1:30:20

Listen. What? Yeah, they have the... And

1:30:22

then they set their phone there. I

1:30:24

have a friend that did that and

1:30:26

it took horrible notes on his very,

1:30:29

very sick and dying wife. Oh, God.

1:30:31

Yeah. And he said, please don't do

1:30:33

that. And it goes into your record.

1:30:35

And so all of a sudden that's

1:30:37

in your medical record. The next person

1:30:39

that looks at it doesn't know that

1:30:41

it was poorly taken notes. And then

1:30:43

they're working off of that. Wait, he

1:30:46

used an AI note -taking tool for

1:30:48

his dying wife? What does

1:30:50

that mean? The doctor. He was

1:30:52

having an appointment with a

1:30:54

doctor with his dying wife. I

1:30:56

see. Let's do Podcast Pals

1:30:58

product picks. Podcast Pals peanut picks.

1:31:00

I have one. I'm

1:31:03

going to recommend the book Cults Like

1:31:05

Us by Jane Borden. This

1:31:07

book's getting a little buzz right now. Jane

1:31:09

Borden is my old time out New York co

1:31:11

-worker. She's coming on the show in a couple

1:31:13

weeks. And it's

1:31:15

really interesting. It's about

1:31:17

how America, our

1:31:19

roots are, well, instead

1:31:21

of trying to say it in a fancy way,

1:31:23

I'll just say the pilgrims were kind of like a

1:31:25

death cult. They were

1:31:27

apocalyptics. Is that the right word? I know

1:31:29

we tend to think of them as like,

1:31:32

oh, the pilgrims, they just came over to

1:31:34

settle the new and they were religious freaks.

1:31:36

Yeah. They were horsemen. Exactly.

1:31:38

So we have our

1:31:40

roots in that. I'm

1:31:43

only at the very beginning of the book,

1:31:45

but it's really interesting. I never really knew

1:31:47

that about them. I love Jane. Yeah. I

1:31:49

want to read that. Do

1:31:52

you have a podcast pick? Oh,

1:31:54

product. No, product pick. She

1:31:56

does. I was like, I do

1:31:58

have a podcast pick too.

1:32:00

No, product pick. My product pick

1:32:02

is the label maker. Full

1:32:05

memo, I think it's called. I

1:32:07

sent it to you. It's a

1:32:09

little mint green look. And I

1:32:11

know my room is a hotel

1:32:13

room. I know they're not labeling

1:32:15

their closet. With things like

1:32:17

jeans, pants, jumpsuits. But I have

1:32:19

a little shelf in my closet. And

1:32:21

now I have labels. This is

1:32:24

where the jeans go. This is where

1:32:26

this goes. It's helping me so

1:32:28

much. And then in my bathroom, I

1:32:30

have two little plastic things. One

1:32:32

says floss sticks. One says cotton swabs.

1:32:34

Because you know what? They might

1:32:36

not be Q -tip brand. Right. Now,

1:32:38

before the labels, was it just mayhem?

1:32:40

Chaos. She had her socks in

1:32:42

the floss thing. I had my socks

1:32:44

in the floss. Foam MO is

1:32:46

the name. I'm still working on the

1:32:48

bathroom because I don't have like

1:32:50

a cupboard underneath. Oh, you don't? really

1:32:52

strategic. Oh, you have a little

1:32:54

pedestal thing. I have a rolling, yeah,

1:32:56

I have like a rolling storage

1:32:58

thing. So it's all very open, which

1:33:00

I don't love. your bathroom? So

1:33:02

I also have, now I'm getting plastic

1:33:04

organizers that are transparent on the

1:33:06

top that zip. This is my nail

1:33:08

stuff. I'm trying to just make,

1:33:10

I know it's not pretty to have

1:33:12

labels everywhere, but it's so helpful

1:33:14

to me. think it's probably, it sounds

1:33:16

soothing. I live in chaos. I

1:33:18

love it. And this label maker is

1:33:20

so cute and it has a

1:33:22

little app that has a little mushroom

1:33:24

symbol and it's so easy. I

1:33:26

love it. Yeah. I was just thinking,

1:33:28

I was thinking about how we

1:33:30

are, we plan to redo our closet

1:33:32

with Ikea. Between

1:33:36

that and your laminating machine? Oh,

1:33:38

my God. I got a laminator.

1:33:40

I kept mine very basic and

1:33:42

uniform. I'm like, this is part

1:33:44