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believe it has been a year since we did
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this show, this time last year?
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It's kind of wild to think about that. It
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went by so fast for me. Are
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you at that point, Mitra, where...
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It's just time is just going faster
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and faster. It is. I very much
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am like, wait a minute. I thought it was
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January. Wait a minute. I thought it was September. What's
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happening? Yeah. So this is
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our new annual tradition that we started
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last year, our episode about songs that hit
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hard. We did a call out to
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listeners and it turns out there are lots
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of songs that, you know, really hit
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lots of people really hard. We had a
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little form they could fill out online
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if they wanted to use that. Writing
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in, voicemails. telling
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us about a song that
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absolutely wrecked them one way or
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the other. Ugly cry too or just obsessed
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about. So we're going to share
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some of those songs and the stories and
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the song picks and everything on this episode.
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So we'll get to as many as we
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can. Let's start with one
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of the written comments that we got. So this was a
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song a lot of people picked, which
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would be Sizz's Saturn. Yeah. A single
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she released back in February. So
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people have been sitting with this for
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a few months now. But one
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of the listeners who wrote in was
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Mona from San Antonio. She
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says, 2024 was a rough year.
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I had two great losses and was
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diagnosed with two chronic illnesses. This
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song hit me hard because the lyrics summed
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up my emotional state of mind. How
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can things get any worse? How
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much more can a person take? The
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melodic sound of the song though was
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somehow soothing. It made me feel
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every emotion. It made me feel like I
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wasn't alone. the
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universe please make some
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noise I
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love this song because it is a feeling
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that I have had often. Yeah,
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it just really
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makes you reflect on why am I
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going through these things? And
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is there a way to get out of this?
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And I think it's also, I
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think about the verse, if there is a
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point to being good, then where's my reward? Which
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is something I think a lot of people always often
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think about. I'm doing all the things
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I'm supposed to do. And why
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are all these things... Happening. Yeah.
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She also asks why do we always
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seem to lose the good ones,
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right? And the people who
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are just doing the worst possible
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things seem to thrive. Yes. That
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is something I definitely think
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from time to time. Yeah.
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It is interesting that so
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many people picked this song and
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not all of them came
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to it because they
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were necessarily struggling or
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hurting or unhappy. A
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lot of people, in fact, were feeling
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great, you know, and Saturn just
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sort of underlined their feelings for them
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and sort of reinforced how they
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were already feeling. I think, you know,
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she asks, SZA does in the
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song, asks all these big questions. about
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why we're here and what's the
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purpose of suffering and things like that.
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But her voice, just the
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sound of her voice, the little
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arpeggiated synths, yeah. The production
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value in this just really
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give us that otherworldly
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connection. Yeah, and it just
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says everything's gonna be okay. Or
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even if everything isn't gonna be okay
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or we don't know, it's okay
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to ask these questions. Right. Yeah. All
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right, let's go to one of the
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voice memos we got, and this is
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from a listener named Josh in Dayton,
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Ohio, and the song that he picked
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is Laura Marling's Child of Mine. My
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wife and I were blessed to have
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our first child on April 12th this
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year. Being parents has completely transformed our
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lives. I've never known time
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to go by so quickly, and I don't
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want to miss any moment. I've
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never known a love this strong. Laura
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Marling's song, Child of Mine, is
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a beautiful, tender and poetic reflection.
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on raising a child. I always
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end up crying hard during the bridge. Long
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nights, fast years, so they say. Time
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won't ever feel the same. And I
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don't want to miss it. No, I don't want
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to miss it. And I'm not going to miss it,
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child of mine. I'm so thankful to have a
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song like this. To be able to
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remind myself, even when times are hard,
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the nights are long, that I don't
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want to rush any moments with this
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wonderful, amazing daughter of mine. You
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and your dad
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are dancing in
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the kitchen Life
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is slowing down but
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it's still bitchin' I
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got myself a rod
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but I could break
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it My back is
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still as strong as
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I can make it
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Plus you're mine So
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who would rush right
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through it, child of mine?
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Child of mine.
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Child of
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mine. Everything
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you want is in
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your reach right now.
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Anything that's not, I
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have to teach them. So
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this song, Child of Mine, is from Laura
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Marling's album, Patterns. We just talked about another
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cut from it. called Patterns
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and Repeat on our Best Songs
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of the Year episode and this
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whole album just absolutely floored me
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for much of the same reasons
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that our listener Josh and Dayton mentioned
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Laura Marling became a first -time mom not
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that long ago and she actually recorded
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much of this album with her daughter in
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the room and she kind of played
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the songs for her daughter that way. In
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fact you hear a little sort of
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recording at the top there that makes me
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think that is from one of the
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sessions with her daughter sitting there listening. It
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made me feel so warm. I don't
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have children of my own but so many
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of the the lyrics of it felt
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very familiar in terms of the things that
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I'd heard my mother say. There
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is one, she says, I can't protect
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you there, though I'll keep trying. Sometimes
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you'll go places I can't get to, but
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I've spoken to the angels who'll protect you.
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And man, if that don't
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perfectly capture sentiments that
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my mother has expressed, it
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is definitely something that I wanted
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to play for her. Josh, our listener
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who wrote in, two things he
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said that I will co -sign on, the
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idea that It is so hard. It
8:28
is so much work. But even at
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its worst when you're just like, oh
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my god, this is awful. It's still
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the greatest thing in the world. And
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yeah, just that whole idea, again,
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about time, Laura Marling talks
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about and Josh talked about it.
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Just the days are long, the years
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are short, all the things that
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felt like an eternity in the moment.
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And you realize, wow, that was
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maybe two days or a week or
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something like that. But Josh,
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the listener who picked the song,
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his story and his reflections, I think,
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are a good example of what
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we heard a lot in our call
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-out this year. Just a lot of
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joy. A lot of joy. A
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lot of joy and almost defiant joy
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and intense gratitude. It wasn't all
9:12
just, you know, tear -jerkers this year.
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That sort of actually is a great
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sort of segue, I think, into
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the next song. Yeah. This next one
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was from Michelle, a listener in
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Philly. Yeah. And the song she picked
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is Beyonce's. to hands to heaven.
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And the reason this song hit me
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so hard is that I am
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45 years old and finally met the
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love of my life. After
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going through so much,
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I finally found the person I know
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I want to spend the rest of
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my life with. And that
9:43
song speaks directly to
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finding that true love and
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feeling like everything is
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going to be alright. Yeah,
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yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh. Oh,
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oh, oh. So
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if you know the song, it's really
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sort of clear that The part that
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really was resonating with Michelle is that
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last part of finding that person. Finding
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that person that you've been waiting your
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whole life for is you have been surrendering
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and you've been figuring out who you
11:06
are and putting yourself together and here is
11:08
that other person. that you've been waiting
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for. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. No, I'm
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so glad we picked this one too
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because, you know, what a gift to find
11:16
true love at any point in your
11:18
life. But you know, she made a point
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of saying, you know, she's in middle
11:22
life now and she's just so grateful now
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to have found it. That is just
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such a gift. I think one of the
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things that's great about this song, Two
11:31
Hands to Heaven, is that it suggests a
11:33
lot of struggle, but it's not too
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explicit about it. It's sort of implied, in
11:37
fact, the whole idea that she's got
11:39
a drink in her hand and both hands
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are raised to heaven, like that could
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be a celebration. or an
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applee. I always think about
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the surrendering part of putting
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your hands into heaven, but
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it's a very complex song.
11:54
Yeah, there's a lot going on
11:56
in it. Beyonce says something
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like 10 ,000 steps to find
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the time of your life, I
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a journey there and also
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right, let's get to another one of the
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written comments we got. This is for the
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song 25 by the band Lake Street Dive.
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This is a song that I played on
13:47
the show actually earlier in the year when
13:49
it came out. It was picked by Sue
13:51
in Cleveland. And Sue says,
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I turned 69 this year and I'm retiring
13:55
at the end of the year. My
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mom passed away in August. All
13:59
these life changes have me thinking about
14:01
my life and what's coming next. I'm happily
14:03
married and I have been for many
14:06
years, but this song made me remember the
14:08
first time I fell hard for someone
14:10
in college. I've never quite gotten
14:12
over that man, my first grown -up love. This
14:15
song sums up those feelings of new
14:17
love and how sweet it feels from
14:19
a distance of decades. I
14:29
quite remember how I
14:31
thought we'd work
14:33
it out I guess
14:35
I would move
14:37
to California or you
14:39
to Boston I'd
14:41
learn to like to
14:44
stay at home
14:46
or you'd learn to
14:48
like going out
14:50
And although the stories
14:52
that I tell
14:54
myself about us now
14:58
Don't take me
15:00
to the grave
15:02
I'll be an
15:04
old woman Somebody
15:06
else by my
15:08
side But I
15:10
will always be One
15:33
of the things that Lake Street
15:35
Dive is so good at is storytelling.
15:38
It doesn't matter what
15:40
song it is, the
15:42
storytelling and their music
15:44
always gets me in
15:46
my feelings. And then
15:48
you add on top of
15:50
that Rachel Price's voice and
15:52
you just don't have any
15:54
choice but to feel all
15:56
the emotions. And I
15:58
noticed as I was sort of looking over what we're
16:00
going to be listening to. There's a
16:02
lot of songs about memory. A
16:04
lot of songs about the
16:06
past and nostalgia. And
16:08
they are able to tell this story
16:11
and thread that needle in such a
16:13
very simple way where it's very specific
16:15
to whoever in the group was a
16:17
songwriter. But you can pull your own
16:19
parts of your own past loves and
16:21
easily lay it on top of that.
16:23
Yeah, it is not hard to relate.
16:26
to a lot of the ideas and
16:28
feelings that come up in the song.
16:30
At least for me, at this point
16:32
in my life, and I'm sure many
16:34
other people too, I think the thing
16:36
that I am moved most by in
16:38
this song is that, you know, this
16:41
person who's reflecting on their youth in
16:43
the past and it's long gone, but
16:45
they only have good things to say
16:47
about this person that they're thinking about,
16:49
right? Right. And that is something, you
16:51
know, that just deeply moves me whenever
16:53
I see that kind of kindness in The
16:56
way that love can endure like that
16:58
even when you know you weren't right for
17:00
each other in the long run that
17:02
you wish only the best for him. You
17:05
know, you and I both brought our
17:07
own picks and songs that we want to
17:09
talk about. Let's just go ahead and do
17:11
yours because it's a good one. Sure. My
17:14
pick is a song traditions
17:16
by Don Rashard and Spencer
17:18
Zahn. And it's a
17:20
very simple song, but there is a line
17:22
in it that just kills me every
17:24
time. You call it lucky. I
17:26
call it blessings. You
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call it lucky, I
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call
18:04
it blessings
18:06
On
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game day,
18:11
my
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brother wears
18:15
Saint
18:17
shoes Must
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be
18:22
a frank
18:24
thing Cause
18:27
when I wear
18:29
them shit, they
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lose My baby
18:33
don't go nowhere
18:35
without his Carolina
18:37
blues Your mama's
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boy, she a
18:41
Tar Hill fan
18:43
too You call
18:45
it superstition, it's
18:47
a calling tradition You
18:58
call it lucky, I
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call it blessings. Does
19:11
this make you think of your mom? It
19:13
does. It makes me think of
19:15
my mom. It makes me think
19:17
of my grandmothers. It makes me
19:19
think of all of those people,
19:21
not even just the women in
19:23
my life, but the people in
19:26
my life who sort of layered
19:28
onto me the different sort of
19:30
cultural, family bits that really made
19:32
me who I am. And
19:34
a lot of them having to do with
19:36
faith. Because when I think
19:38
about what some of our
19:40
superstitions or what Don is saying
19:42
are really our traditions, a
19:45
lot of them are about faith, you
19:47
know, wearing the Saint shoes, hoping
19:49
they'll win, wearing your, it's all
19:51
about us, these small little acts
19:53
of faith. Yeah. hoping that we
19:55
do our part and it's hard
19:58
to believe in those things and
20:00
they may not make sense to
20:02
anybody else. And
20:04
that for me is why the line,
20:06
you call it lucky, I call
20:08
it blessings is so important to me.
20:10
Well, when I listened to this,
20:12
I immediately clocked two things. One, North
20:15
Carolina, even though you're from South
20:17
Carolina, right? Yeah, but the Carolina's and
20:19
family because I know how important
20:21
family is to you. Yeah. And I
20:23
kind of thought this was actually
20:25
a nice companion piece to the Duran
20:27
Jones. Yeah, it is. I thought
20:29
about like, oh, here I am
20:31
again picking another thing that really sort
20:34
of speaks to my southern upbringing, all
20:36
these sort of like family parts. Faith.
20:38
Yes, exactly. All these things that
20:40
sort of help inform who I am.
20:42
And like I said, it's not
20:44
a super complicated, complex song, but it
20:46
really just sort of gets to
20:48
the root of who I am. Yeah.
20:50
Now, I get it. And it's
20:52
such a beautiful song, too. This
20:55
whole album is such a... There's so
20:57
much serenity in it, right? It is just
20:59
gorgeous. It was hard to pick what
21:01
song because I love so much of the
21:03
album. Yeah. And that album's called Quiet
21:05
in a World Full of Noise. You
21:07
want to get me to listen to something?
21:09
Call it. quiet and a world full of
21:11
noise. And that title track is
21:14
absolutely beautiful. I definitely recommend people check
21:16
it out. Well, the song that I
21:18
picked also speaks to faith a little
21:20
bit and is also, I think, pretty
21:22
simple to follow, but yeah, is
21:25
just so moving and powerful to
21:27
me. It's a song that I
21:29
played earlier in the year on
21:31
the show. It's called God Person
21:33
by Maddie Diaz. I
21:40
come here to
21:42
watch Other people know
21:44
what I can
21:46
only guess at Cause
21:48
I'm never sure
21:50
And I don't like
21:52
commitment if there's
21:55
something more They sing
21:57
their songs close
21:59
in their eyes Seeing
22:01
the light in
22:03
a different light How
22:05
does that happen? Why
22:08
is it beautiful? Why
22:10
isn't magic and
22:12
tragic? I don't
22:15
know I'm not
22:17
a God But
22:20
I'm never not
22:22
searching Looking
22:25
at the sky staring
22:27
at the ocean If
22:29
something to know then
22:31
I wanna know it
22:33
I wanna hold it
22:35
I wanna feel it
22:37
And maybe I can't
22:39
say That I'm not
22:41
a God person Talking
22:47
to my dad Talking
22:49
about my mom After 20
22:51
years What the hell
22:53
went wrong How can I
22:55
avoid Making the same
22:57
choices And stay on the
22:59
Carolina coast Living in
23:01
This my song of the
23:03
year This song just...
23:05
And I have spent so
23:07
much time Trying to
23:09
understand Why does this song
23:11
just devastate me? It's
23:14
not explicitly joyful or
23:16
sad But I think it's,
23:18
you know When her
23:20
voice starts to soar a
23:22
little bit I'm not
23:24
a God person But I'm
23:26
never not searching Looking
23:29
at the sky Staring at
23:31
the ocean If there's something
23:33
to know then I wanna
23:35
know it I wanna hold
23:38
it I wanna feel it
23:40
And maybe I can't say
23:42
That I'm not a God
23:44
person There's just so much
23:46
awe life in that moment
23:48
I don't know that sort
23:50
of simple at life Is
23:52
all wrapped up in this
23:54
song to me When you
23:56
sent it and I sort
23:59
of settled on what my
24:01
song, they were such
24:03
perfect companion pieces. Yeah. Because
24:05
one song is sort of
24:07
asking the questions, and
24:09
the other song is not giving
24:11
an answer, but sort of figuring
24:13
out your way to an answer.
24:16
And this is me asking the questions
24:18
about it. I think for me
24:20
too it's the idea that she is
24:22
finding God or the possibility of
24:24
God in all of these tiny little
24:26
things in life. One of which
24:29
she says at the very top of the
24:31
song is like going to a show with people
24:33
or something just standing in the presence of
24:35
others. And
24:42
I see the ocean
24:44
Where it all came from
24:47
And where it's all
24:49
going I'll never know But
24:51
sometimes I can feel
24:53
it And maybe I can't
24:56
say that I'm not
24:58
a God person I talked
25:00
with Maddie Diaz briefly
25:02
about this song She said
25:04
she almost didn't include
25:07
it on the album I'm
25:09
like, oh my gosh, I'm so glad you did.
25:11
Yes. So that was from the Maddie Diaz album,
25:14
Weird Faith. All right,
25:16
Mitra, let's get to another one of
25:18
the voice memos we got. Yeah, we
25:20
got a lot of emails and voice
25:22
memos from listeners about pets. Pets, yes.
25:24
So this one comes from Olivia in
25:26
Washington state. And the song
25:29
she picked is Love Song from a
25:31
Dog by Shovels and Rope. I was
25:33
listening to a random playlist and I
25:35
had the music interrupted by a phone
25:37
call from my vet. They were calling
25:39
to give a not so great health
25:41
update on my dog. And
25:43
my dog has been my best
25:45
friend through everything. So
25:47
as I'm sitting there taking in this
25:49
terrible news and I'm crying and
25:51
telling my dog how much I love
25:53
him, as soon as the
25:56
call wrapped up, the playlist just kicked back
25:58
on and started playing the next song
26:00
and love song from a dog came on.
26:02
It might sound kooky, but it felt
26:04
like I was meant to hear it in
26:06
that moment, like my dog was trying
26:08
to tell me how much he loved me
26:10
right back. And I
26:12
think this song is just
26:14
such a beautiful ode to
26:16
that special bond and partnership
26:18
between a human and their
26:20
dog. Dogs are just so
26:22
loyal and loving, and they give so
26:25
much to us. And it's nice
26:27
to get that little moment to hear
26:29
from their perspective. So...
26:31
still cannot listen to this song
26:33
without crying. Heck, I can't even talk
26:36
about it without crying. And
26:38
I know my remaining days
26:40
with my soul dog are numbered,
26:42
but I am forever grateful
26:45
for this beautiful touching song. But
26:59
my mother and my
27:01
team, running in
27:03
my dream, fastest
27:06
you
27:08
ever seen.
27:14
When I met you, it
27:16
was just like being born. There
27:20
was no past to
27:22
mourn. In
27:28
this necklace
27:30
I adore
27:33
Never worry
27:35
about a
27:38
storm Every
27:40
night I'm
27:43
warm One
27:45
word And
27:48
I'm running
27:51
One word
28:02
a colorblind lovesick fool Runnin'
28:05
like I'll die if
28:07
I don't get to you
28:09
Runnin' like I got
28:11
more legs than two Runnin'
28:13
like it's something that
28:15
I was born to do
28:28
I remember when I lost a dog that I had
28:30
had for 14 years. This was a few years
28:32
ago. Somewhere I saw, and I
28:34
don't remember where I saw it or who
28:36
said it, but somebody said, we're here
28:38
on this planet to learn how to be
28:41
good. And dogs already
28:43
know how to be good, so they don't
28:45
need as much time as we've got. So
28:47
I thought that was a lovely explanation for
28:49
why we don't get as much time with
28:51
our dogs as we'd like. I
28:53
love the chorus of this song. Yeah.
28:56
It's so fun, running like I'll die
28:58
if I don't get to you. But
29:00
also, I love that structure
29:02
of talking about the love,
29:04
the loyalty, the companionship that
29:06
that character in the song
29:08
wants to sort of make
29:10
sure they have. You are
29:12
the center of their world.
29:16
and inevitably they become the center of
29:18
your world. Well,
29:46
this was a song that I missed this year.
29:48
I don't know how I did, but I'm so
29:50
glad that our listener Olivia in Washington State left
29:52
a voice memo about it, and we got to
29:54
hear it. Support
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for everyone. This
30:26
is another voice memo we got
30:28
from a listener named Mary in Massachusetts,
30:31
and she picked Kendrick Lamar's song, Man at
30:33
the Garden, from his album G and
30:35
X that just came out. This year, Man
30:37
at the Garden by Kendrick Lamar hit
30:39
me in a way that I really wasn't
30:41
expecting from the very first listen. that
30:43
repeated refrain, I deserve it all.
30:46
It lodged itself in my mind, sort of like
30:48
a mantra. I feel like
30:50
every time I revisit the song, I
30:52
find new layers to unpack, especially
30:54
that ending crescendo. Tell me why
30:56
you think you deserve the greatest of all
30:58
time. It always brings me to tears. It's
31:00
such a profound and challenging question. and
31:03
it really makes me reflect on my own sense
31:05
of worth. What do I really deserve and why?
31:08
For years I've struggled with undervaluing myself
31:10
and this song feels like a wake -up
31:12
call at its heart. It reminds
31:14
me that while greatness may be subjective,
31:16
we all deserve peace and may be
31:18
the courage to believe in our own
31:20
potential. Twice
31:22
emotional stability a sound body and
31:24
tranquility. I deserve it all Like
31:26
minds and less enemies stock investments
31:28
more entities. I deserve it all
31:30
VVS is white diamonds gene next
31:32
with the seat back reclining I
31:34
deserve it all Put my homes
31:36
on the beachfront Flying private what
31:38
you eat for lunch I deserve
31:40
it all The respect and the
31:43
accolades Lamping on the island watching
31:45
castaway I deserve it all For
31:47
heavy good that passed away Send
31:49
2 .5 million on the average
31:51
day I deserve it all Keep
31:53
my name by the world leaders
31:55
Keep my crowds loud inside the
31:57
beats I deserve it all More
31:59
money, more power, more freedom Everything
32:01
having the loudest I deserve it
32:03
all I
32:18
thought this was an interesting
32:20
one to share because you know
32:22
where I grew up it
32:24
was a real sort of pull
32:26
yourself up by your bootstraps
32:28
you know Don't complain, just do
32:30
your job, keep quiet, expect
32:32
nothing in return. And it's taken
32:34
me a very, very long
32:36
time. I mean, I'm still not
32:39
comfortable with it, but it's
32:41
taken me a very long time
32:43
to get to a point
32:45
in my life where I was
32:47
even a little comfortable with
32:49
the idea of getting anything at
32:51
all. You know,
32:53
I still can't relate to the,
32:55
I don't know, the defiance or
32:57
whatever, the confidence in this song,
32:59
the confidence that he has saying
33:01
that, you know, he deserves it
33:03
all. But I mean, well, I
33:05
think when I look at the
33:07
lyrics and I listen to him,
33:09
I'm thinking about the fact that
33:12
he's saying, I put in the
33:14
work. Of course I deserve this.
33:16
And that's a hard thing to
33:18
really settle within yourself because we're
33:20
conditioned to not sort of make
33:22
that declarative statement of like, yeah,
33:24
I deserve this. And I think
33:26
it's even more a push in
33:28
him doing that as a young
33:30
black man from a certain community
33:33
to say, All these things, I
33:35
put in the work. I did the hard stuff.
33:37
I did the hard stuff physically, emotionally,
33:40
professionally. I deserve happiness
33:42
and peace, as Mary
33:44
said. Yeah, I love that. the
33:47
point that Mary made, sort of at the very
33:49
end of her voice memo was, what
33:51
do you deserve for all of
33:53
this? And as she points out,
33:56
and it's in the song too,
33:58
it's like, I deserve love and
34:00
peace. And it doesn't everybody. Right.
34:02
And since this has come out,
34:04
I have seen so many people
34:06
in social media saying, yeah, Kendrick
34:09
said I deserve it all and
34:11
he's right. Yeah. Well, I mean,
34:13
he is Kendrick. He is Kendrick.
34:15
But you know, that speaking into.
34:17
onto us or speaking into us,
34:19
pouring into us via this song.
34:21
Like, yes, it is okay to
34:24
claim your joy and your success.
34:26
You do deserve it all. And
34:29
what a great song. It is a
34:31
great song, too. Yeah. All
34:33
right, let's get back to some of the
34:35
written comments we got. Our next one comes
34:37
from Marcia and Belfast, Maine. The
34:39
song she picked is One Last Dance by
34:41
Baby Rose. Marcia says, the
34:43
first time I heard this song, I cried.
34:46
Baby Rose sings hauntingly of running into
34:48
a former lover and how the
34:50
feelings still burn. As I age
34:52
and reflect on past friends and lovers, memories
34:55
of broken relationships bring an aching
34:57
swell of emotions. And I hope those
34:59
people know, even when these
35:01
connections either slowly drifted apart or
35:03
burned down in raging flames, my
35:06
heart still has a place for them and
35:08
gratitude for their place in my life. Drive
35:17
so hard, but I
35:19
can't forget you And
35:21
I know that things
35:23
have changed Didn't think
35:26
I'd see you again
35:46
But for old time It
36:32
has a lot in common with
36:34
that 25 from Lake Dive that all
36:36
idea of know, back at someone
36:38
who was a part of your life
36:40
and having only good things to
36:43
say. Yes. And great storytelling in it
36:45
as well. I immediately was seeing
36:47
them encounter each other street. Yeah, and
36:49
like, oh man, you look great.
36:51
Ah. It It was not
36:53
expecting you to look that good. I
36:57
love it. I love. the nostalgia
36:59
this song and know, shout out
37:01
to Bad Bad Not Good on the
37:03
production and been there phenomenal sort
37:05
of giving us that feel. and
37:07
she, maybe Rose this amazing, beguiling voice
37:09
that you know always every time
37:12
I listen to her I'm trying
37:14
to like, wait I'm just trying to
37:16
figure it out. Yeah. So just
37:18
all adds into this sort of
37:20
almost my mind black and white sort
37:22
of feel. tones. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
37:24
Oh yeah So good. Do
37:27
know the singer Celeste? Do you know
37:29
her Do you know her Strange? No,
37:31
I don't know that one. Oh no. We're
37:33
going to do a bonus song here. Let's play
37:35
a little bit of Strange. Okay. I am
37:37
still me, you
37:40
are still
37:42
you
37:44
in the
37:46
same
37:48
place, isn't
37:51
it
37:53
strange how
37:55
people
37:57
can change
38:14
Oh man. Again,
38:18
I'm sitting here in my
38:20
mind, seeing the movie. Yeah.
38:22
I'm seeing these scenes. Yeah. I
38:25
don't want to take anything from
38:27
Baby Rose. One last dance. It's
38:29
a great, great song, too. This actually,
38:31
quite a few people picked this song
38:33
from Celeste. Strange. But
38:36
we were only doing new stuff, so
38:38
I couldn't do it. I think this
38:40
came out maybe, gosh, four or five
38:42
years ago, and it just devastated me
38:44
when I first heard it. But it's
38:46
that same idea, you know, like all
38:48
the people in your life who were
38:51
total strangers, then you become friends, you
38:53
become lovers, and then strangers again. And
38:55
because there's that line in the Baby
38:57
Rose song of, I
38:59
know you'll be all right if you never see
39:01
me again. Yeah. Like, we're probably never gonna see
39:03
each other again, but I'm good. I
39:05
know you're good. And we've
39:07
made those different stages in
39:09
our lives. I love those
39:11
stories of figuring out how people come
39:13
together and how they fall apart. Oh,
39:16
so beautiful. OK,
39:18
well look, we'll put together a playlist
39:20
with full versions of all of these
39:22
songs, and a whole bunch of the
39:24
other ones that the listeners submitted, because
39:26
there were just way too many we
39:28
could put on here. But if people
39:30
search for NPR on Spotify or Apple
39:32
Music, they'll find the playlist. Hit hard
39:34
in 2024. But let's do
39:36
one more, and so many we could
39:38
choose to go out on. But I
39:40
thought we'd pick this one from Adrian
39:42
Linker, the singer Adrian Linker. It's called
39:44
Sadness as a Gift. And
39:46
I don't know, not really any additional
39:48
commentary, really needed on that idea
39:51
of sadness as a gift. There's
39:53
this great line, I don't remember where I
39:55
heard it, where someone said, what is grief but
39:57
love and duery? From...
39:59
Was that from you? No, that
40:01
was from Marvel. That was from
40:04
Wanda and... Oh, you're right. Vision.
40:06
Vision says that, yes. Vision says
40:08
that. What is grief? Thank
40:10
you, Marvel. The Marvel Universe. Super
40:13
deep, but that is so true. What
40:15
is grief, but love enduring? And so anytime,
40:17
yeah, whenever I got sad about losing
40:19
somebody or whatever, I think, well, what a
40:21
gift to be able to - Exactly. That
40:23
they left you with so many great
40:25
memories. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, anyway,
40:27
this song from Adrian Linker, Sadness as
40:29
a Gift. It was picked by Michael in
40:31
Massachusetts and he writes, if love is
40:33
a gift, so too is the sadness that
40:35
accompanies our memories once it's gone. Holding
40:38
our hand while we visit the
40:40
past or the future, we once imagined
40:42
how sad, how wonderful it
40:44
is that the love we shared with
40:46
someone never really dies. And
40:48
then Michael says, it hit me hard
40:50
before, during, and after my short -lived
40:52
relationship this year. What can I
40:55
say? I'm a yearner. You know what,
40:57
Michael? I'm a yearner too. Same
40:59
here, Michael. You're in good company. So
41:01
we'll go out on this. Thanks so much,
41:03
Mitra, again. Thank you so much for having
41:05
me, Robin. And a quick
41:08
reminder to keep listening after the song
41:10
as we continue to celebrate the 25th
41:12
anniversary of All Songs Considered. Steven Thompson
41:14
and I have been looking back at
41:16
the show's number one songs from across
41:18
the years. Coming right up, we're going
41:20
to look back at the year 2009. face
41:37
away, leaning
41:39
on the
41:42
windowsill. You could write
41:44
me someday and I think you
41:46
will. We could see
41:48
the sadness as a
41:50
gift and still feel too
41:52
heavy to hold. Snow
41:56
falling, I
41:59
try to keep All
42:23
right, as I mentioned, we're celebrating the 25th
42:25
anniversary of All Songs Considered all this spring
42:27
and into the summer by looking back at
42:29
our number one songs from across the years.
42:31
We're doing a different year
42:34
in each episode. This week we are
42:36
up to 2009. Stephen
42:38
Thompson back again to talk about what stands
42:40
out from that year. Hey, Stephen. Hello,
42:42
Robin. You know, Stephen, I still laugh when
42:44
I think about how we were going
42:46
to do all 25 years in one episode.
42:49
We're just going to sit down and
42:51
knock out 25 years of music. As
42:53
long as you pick one 20th of
42:55
a song for each year. I mean, we're
42:58
not even playing full songs, but I,
43:00
you know, I thought, maybe it'll be
43:02
a little long. Oh, but what
43:04
folly that was, because we're only up
43:06
to 2009 now. And we're kind of
43:08
doing this as a name that tune,
43:10
you know, we're trying to surprise each
43:12
other with our picks here. What's the
43:14
first thing that you think of when
43:16
you think music in 2009? I'm
43:18
glad you asked, what do you think of when you think
43:20
of music in 2009? Because I thought you were going to
43:22
be like, what's the first thing you think of when you
43:24
think of the year 2009? What is the first thing you
43:26
think of when you think of 2009? I
43:28
would, I was thinking because I got
43:30
divorced in 2010. And so I think
43:32
of 2000. as like, we are in
43:34
the best economy since 1928. Oh
43:38
gosh, that was a terrible time. Now
43:41
that you mentioned it, I was totally underwater.
43:43
So happy to remind you. Yeah, I was
43:45
totally underwater in my house and I had
43:47
to sell it. I remember that. Yeah, I
43:49
had to cut a check to the buyer.
43:52
I had to pay them. Anyway,
43:54
we digress. Anyway, we digress. You'd probably
43:56
like me to play a song. So
43:58
this is your number one song for
44:01
you. Oh, it's my favorite song cuz I'm
44:03
trying to represent I love this song
44:05
but to me this represents 2009. do it
44:07
yeah oh
44:11
yeah. Home.
44:22
Edward Edward Sharper the Magnetic
44:24
Zeroes. Very good Bye
44:53
chocolate candy, Jesus
44:55
Christ. Apple
45:07
Oh, let
45:10
me come home,
45:12
home is where
45:15
I'm with you Oh,
45:32
let me come home,
45:34
I'm with you This
45:36
song represents 2009 in
45:38
a lot of ways
45:41
And one of those
45:43
ways is just in
45:45
terms of the larger
45:48
themes of what music
45:50
was sounding like There
45:52
was kind of this ever increasing
45:54
number of bands where they just
45:56
seemed to acquire more members as
45:58
they moved through the world. As
46:00
I recall, there was an all
46:02
-songs intern, really nice guy, who
46:04
like I can't remember what instrument he played,
46:07
but he wound up joining Edward Sharpe and the
46:09
Magnetic Zeroes for a time. Oh, really? It's
46:11
like my internship's ending. Might
46:14
as well just go and play
46:16
the triangle for Edward Sharpe and the
46:18
Magnetic Zero. I don't remember what
46:20
he actually played, but this for me
46:22
is kind of kicking us into
46:24
the stomp and clap era. This
46:26
is the, we have four drummers. You
46:30
don't want to know what our tour
46:32
bus smells like. But
46:35
like but big you kind
46:37
of banned as community and as
46:39
as kind of a flood
46:41
of Emotions and that for me
46:43
was the experience of hearing
46:45
Edward Sharpen the magnetic zeros for
46:48
the first time at Rachel
46:50
Ray's day party at South by
46:52
Southwest You know was like
46:54
walking into the room and seeing
46:56
this huge disheveled Band of
46:58
oddballs play this this song that
47:01
is just a flood of nostalgia
47:04
and emotion that it is
47:06
recalling. It's just like a song
47:08
that is just a flood
47:11
of all the things you appreciate
47:13
about life. And listening back
47:15
to it now, there is this element, I
47:17
mean, part of it is you played the
47:19
part of the song where it's like, holy
47:21
moly, me oh my, and I'm like, oh,
47:23
this is so cloying. But at the same
47:25
time, all of my resistances fall away. This
47:27
is a very sweet song. And
47:29
to have this shambles, come
47:32
in really spoke to me in
47:34
2009. Yeah, and they brought that
47:36
to the tiny desk as well. Oh, such a
47:38
classic. It really is. And it makes me
47:40
think, you know, as we've
47:42
gone through all these years, we have
47:45
been reminded of trends and things like
47:47
that as you mentioned the stomp clap
47:49
there was a real arc to that
47:51
as well that I think was dictated
47:53
in no small part there's lots of
47:55
things but dictated in no small part
47:57
by the punishing economics of touring with
47:59
27 people in your band or whatever,
48:01
because that all began to you know,
48:03
it kind of peaked then it started
48:06
to fade away where you didn't get
48:08
all the stomp clap anymore just because
48:10
It's the economics of paying for drummers.
48:12
right And just moving people
48:14
around and, you know, but
48:16
that's a great pick. And that is a band I've
48:18
not thought of in a long time. So
48:20
did a version of this
48:22
show, an anniversary show in 2016
48:24
for songs considered Sweet 16. I've
48:27
that along the way here we've been
48:29
doing this. And the song that we
48:31
picked for 2016 was Grizzly Bears Weeks,
48:33
which I think that's a pretty great
48:35
pick. But I'm going to go with
48:37
my personal favorite from 2009 and I
48:39
think you might know what this is.
48:42
All right. Are
48:54
you stuck? It's beautiful.
48:56
Is this alluvium? Oh no, that's a
48:58
good guess though. Oh,
49:05
is this antlers? Yeah.
49:07
Okay. I'm
49:15
scared. Okay.
49:55
Okay. So
50:06
that incredible voice belongs to Peter
50:08
Silberman. If you remember him, yes,
50:10
this album from the antlers. called
50:12
Hospice that came out in 2009
50:15
and this is the song Kettering
50:17
from it. Hospice
50:19
was a feel -good -wrong. It really
50:21
was. For
50:23
the whole family, it's just a
50:26
devastating album about this, a woman
50:28
who's dying of bone cancer and she's
50:30
in hospice. And Peter
50:32
Silberman has been, you know, he
50:34
was very reluctant at the time
50:36
to talk about how autobiographical the
50:38
album was, but he did
50:40
say that it was based at least in
50:42
part on things that did happen in
50:44
his life and in his relationships. And
50:47
this album, it just wrecked me
50:49
in all the best ways. And
50:51
I still reach for it every
50:53
now and then. It is all emotion.
50:55
It's very beautiful. But it is
50:57
like, it's going for your tear ducts. It's
51:00
not messing around. And it
51:02
sounds beautiful, but
51:04
there's a rawness to it. that I
51:06
really appreciate. And when I kind
51:08
of scanned through, what was my favorite
51:10
album of 2009? It was this
51:12
record called The First Day of Spring
51:14
by Noah and the Whale. Oh,
51:16
yeah. Beautiful record. But that is a
51:18
heartbreak record. That's a concept album
51:20
about a breakup. And not
51:22
to knock Grizzly Bear. Right.
51:24
But for me, Grizzly Bear is a
51:26
great band that always left me cold.
51:28
Yeah. And like those guys are still
51:30
out there doing great work. They're doing
51:32
film scores and they're incredible Yeah, like
51:35
it's not a knock on grizzly bear
51:37
at all But like I didn't feel
51:39
like I had the really the language
51:41
to speak about it Yeah compared to
51:43
to what we're talking about with Edward
51:45
Sharp and the antlers two very different
51:47
bands that are still like going for
51:49
like an emotional big swing Yeah, we're
51:51
only playing a little bit here of
51:53
two songs Yeah, there is no way
51:55
to be comprehensive about an entire calendar
51:57
year, especially when we're We're squeezing out
51:59
about 50 different genres. I know. But
52:02
you must have, if you want to just
52:04
rattle off a few others from that year that
52:07
stand out to you. Oh my gosh, well
52:09
I mentioned Noah and the Whale. This was, 2009
52:11
was when my love affair with the band
52:13
Y Oak began. What a great
52:15
band. Swell season put out a
52:17
gorgeous record in 2009. Nico Case put
52:19
out a phenomenal record in 2009. Yeah,
52:22
tons and tons of stuff. I mean, I
52:24
again, like I don't even know. Oh my God,
52:26
the thermals. Oh yeah. Thermals had
52:28
a string of you could you could
52:30
drop many different calendar years and find
52:32
a great record by the thermals. But
52:34
certainly Jason Lytle, he had yours truly
52:36
the commuter. Fever Ray had an incredible
52:38
album that year. Lord Gibson. Beasts
52:40
of Seasons was 2009. We've already been talking
52:43
about... Sharon Venet and had a big record
52:45
that year. Yeah. The number one alternate pick
52:47
for me, though, that I was gonna play
52:49
was a cut from Fan Farlow, which is
52:51
another great stomp clap. Great stomp and clap
52:53
band. And a really lovely tiny desk, if
52:55
people go back and check that out. You
52:57
know what else came out in 2009? White
53:00
and nerdy. No. By Weird
53:02
Al Jankovic. I think it's
53:04
the greatest Weird Al Jankovic song.
53:08
But we'll go out on this and until
53:10
next time, thanks Stephen. Thank you Robin.
53:12
And for NPR Music, I'm Robin Hilton. It's
53:14
All Songs Considered. Thank
54:56
you for
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watching! Cue
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the music!
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O -i -i -i -i
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-i -o Tidato
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Takumi, o -i
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-i -i -i -o La
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la la la
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la la la
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la la la
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la la la la la
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And I'm
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going back home
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And go
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And home
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