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What's up everybody? Welcome to Playgrant!

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Listen, I just got to start off the

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show by saying, I did not know that

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was going to happen last night at raw.

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I mean, Logan mentioned that like, hey, I

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might like pointed you or something like that.

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And then this fucking Judas runs up on

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me and tries to make me lie to

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everybody in Madison Square Garden. If we were

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at like the Brooklyn Nets arena or whatever.

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that's okay I'll lie all day I'll do

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whatever you want for the wrestling right

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in Madison Square Garden so I tell him

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the real which I think you should do

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to someone who I thought was a friend

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the guy invited me to his wedding

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last week so I have to tell him

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like listen nobody's I'm looking here to see

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you. You're not even wrestling tonight. His ego

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is so fragile, he grabs me, he

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pulls me over that. I saw. Front of

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my wife. Yeah. That's pretty emasculating. Yeah. I

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just put out a special about how my

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balls don't work. Yeah. And now I get

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bent over a railing in front of my

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wife. And in front of my wife. Both

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of them. Both of them. Both of

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them. Both of them. Both of both. for

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you to do that. Honestly, I do not

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let down, bro. I fell let down. Because

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I had my boys right there. I had

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my boys right there, and I thought you

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were gonna jump in that ring. Thank God

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for AJ Scott. I mean you're a die

1:15

hardware salesman. When did you buy tickets for

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this? Say again? You bought tickets for this?

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Yeah, I bought tickets for it. I got

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to take my calendar. Where did we buy?

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No, wait a minute. We bought the tickets

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for it. Like months ago. Like the second

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it was announced. I was like, oh shit,

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raw was coming out and shit. I'm going

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to that shit. Like when who was

1:34

fighting? when Sethrawn is saying it's gonna

1:36

be a headline and a steel cage

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match. Have you ever seen a steel

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cage match for my eyes before yesterday?

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I've never seen a steel cage match.

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Yeah, and it changed your god damn

1:48

life. Yeah, I thought it was sick

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as well, to be honest. Yeah, I

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thought it was sick as well, to

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be honest. Yeah, so did all of

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us. That's why 18,000 people were there.

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Okay? Why don't you take off

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your shoes like that little Asian

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girl wrestler to change into the

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record? Yeah, that was the best

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moment. Mark got a video. That

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was cool. That was what? She

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was cutting her promo and she

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was just leaning into that accent.

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She was going for it though.

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And she slapped this shit out

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of those nose, man. I like

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that kind of energy. You saw

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the jewelry fly everywhere? Yep. Yeah,

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it was far. Yeah, I like

2:28

that kind of energy. You saw

2:30

a dove reaching for it? He's

2:32

like that thing for Fantastic Meets?

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Anyway, no, Loganita get his, bro.

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I ain't gonna lie. I thought

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that was crazy. Yeah, I was

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messed up. So we'll see what

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happens. He got to check in

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when he comes back to New

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York. No, you know, he got

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to check in. As a matter

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of fact, I might go to

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your wedding now. I wasn't gonna

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go to your wedding. I might

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hit you with a fucking suplex.

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Okay? I also just like to

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point out something out for the

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historic record. I think I'm the

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only person in wrestling history to

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be pulled over a railing, thrown

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down on the floor like a

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rag doll, rolled into the ring,

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put in a suplex, not officially

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suplex. and still jumped on a

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top rope. Nobody in the history

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of wrestling has done less to

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get on those top rows. So

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you look at it, he was

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like, fucking, I'm gonna go. I

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wasn't gonna do it in Asia.

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It was like, yo, go do

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it. Go jump up there. And

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I was like, hey, you're gonna

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ever get this opportunity. Not worth

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it though. Does it take a

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while? Oh, yeah. There's a moment

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where I thought I was going

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to catch my foot on the

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way up. I didn't know if

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you jump on the top rope

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or the second rope. But I

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was like, I thought about the

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top rope, I was like, ain't

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a way I can bounce on

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that. I actually kind of like

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went like this one. I think

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it's like Shamoo. Yeah. Scorpe. I

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don't know if they all saw

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that when Ray Mysterio, he said

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there was a match. I don't

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know if they all saw that

4:11

when Ray Mysterio, he did that,

4:14

um, jumped off the thing. Isn't

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really him? I think it's like, uh, Shamoo.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know like Shamoo, they

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would flip out with another Shamoo, but they

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don't I figured that yeah, exactly So they

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hit up fucking home deep, you know, you

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get one whatever city you're in That's the

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mystery. That's the mysterious. Yeah, never know who's

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under this There's no way now. It's incredible.

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They could do like 50 years old and

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he did that one move I don't know

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if anybody saw I thought they were gonna

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stop the match He did this one move

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where he like flips off and he is

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like, ankles are supposed to go on

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the guy's neck and then flip the

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person. Okay, yeah. He was on like

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the top ball. Oh yeah, yeah. He

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does it, but when he's coming down,

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he hits his neck on one of

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the ropes. Oh shit. Oh, I missed

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that. And like his head slams back.

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And I was like, oh, he's dead.

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100% dead. Son, so many times last

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night, I was blown away. I was

5:07

blown away. I was blown. I thought

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I was at like a Bonnie Blue

5:12

meetup. There was there. Like ropes everywhere.

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When they're doing the punches and

5:16

shit, you're like, all right, it

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doesn't really look real. Like, whatever.

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But anytime they're jumping off a shit.

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It is insane. Yeah. Like you still

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got a land from 10 feet in

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the end. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I don't know how

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he's got, I mean, I'm 41 years old, there's

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no way I could do this and then do

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anything the next day. Yeah. I mean, you rolled

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into the rink pretty good. I hip her.

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Yeah, I'm a petite this morning. You're feeling

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it? Say what? Like you feel good? Tell

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me, I'm all right. I'm all right. you

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you look for because he passed the physical

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remember yeah you had to pass the physical

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you had to pass the physical you can't

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get in that right shout out the New

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York State Athletic Commission let's go sometimes bureaucracy

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works okay that's why they jumped in I

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didn't want to get you in trouble I

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think I had to get one for

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Netflix. I think he did it physically.

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Yeah, I know. Pussy, bro. Big time

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Pussy over there. That's great. What was

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the last thing you got a physical

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other than last night? I think I

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had to get one for Netflix. I

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told him that shit. I was like,

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I was like, by the way, I

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already got a physical for Netflix. And

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then, and he was like, yeah, I

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think it might be a little different

6:26

physical. How come physicals in high school

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they had to touch your balls? Do

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you remember that? No, they never did

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that with us. Mark, tell me what

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happened with us. Mark, tell me what

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happened to you guys? Do you remember

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that? No, they never did that with

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us. Mark, Mark, tell us about when

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it, tell me, what, tell me, tell

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me, tell me, tell me, what, what,

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tell me, tell me, what, what, what,

6:51

what, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's,

6:53

what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's,

6:55

what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's, what's,

6:57

what's, what's, what's, what's, They would touch

6:59

your balls. Yeah, if they did that,

7:02

they would know my shit was just

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sitting at the bottom. I'm the face

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of sperm that sucks. Yeah, I know.

7:08

You know how many dudes coming up

7:11

to me on the street like, yo,

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I got the same problem. There was

7:15

a dude on a city bike that

7:17

literally hunted me down on the street,

7:19

just so he could be like, yo,

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my sperm sucks too. I do with

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that information. I mean, you just dap

7:26

him up. I did. It's like when

7:28

you do an advertise for AIDS and

7:31

show like that. Oh, fuck you! I

7:33

hope you get that shit. You know

7:35

Magic, Johnson. That should be the marketing

7:37

for Netflix. We should do a billboard.

7:39

Like an IVF thing. Just like your

7:42

face. Shut it. Shut up Mark. You

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piece of shit. Crazy big. Why did

7:46

you ever get it checked out? Why

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did I get it checked out? Yeah,

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well you had that ball issue from

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Mad Law. Well, I don't know. It

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made for a great cotton on the

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pot for years. Yeah, yes it did.

7:59

But I think it's probably because I'm

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not like somebody on this podcast that

8:04

tries to get his balls rubbed by

8:06

every man in his fucking life. Oh,

8:08

tell us about that. Yeah, tell us

8:10

about that. I can't tell if you

8:13

guys are talking me. When you did

8:15

talk about balls before David comes in

8:17

here and swamps with his nose. No.

8:19

Miles gonna beat him to it. He's

8:21

not scared. Yeah, and David's in the

8:24

building today, so we can talk about

8:26

this little gay romance as balls. I

8:28

can't wait. You got people in front

8:30

of him. We hired three women in

8:33

the office. I didn't realize that Miles

8:35

is going to fuck the guy who's

8:37

already working here. Is that an HR

8:39

violation? Well, I said nobody harass the

8:41

women. I said specifically at all, you

8:44

know, listen, there are women that are

8:46

working here and there's going to be

8:48

no fraternizing with them at all. We

8:50

have a rule. We have a rule.

8:53

We have a rule. There's a rule.

8:55

You cannot fraternize with the women at

8:57

all. Yeah. I'm a rule follower. Yeah.

8:59

I followed all the rules correctly to

9:01

the T. I did not mix this

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up. Are you having a sexual encounter

9:06

with David again by any chance? No,

9:08

there were no, I did not have

9:10

sexual relations with that. Adsman. What'd you

9:12

call? Adsman. Yeah, we gotta bring David

9:15

in because the people know right we're

9:17

talking about on public episode No, it's

9:19

patron. Oh, it's patron Oh, it's patron

9:21

yeah, there's no way. It was on

9:24

patron.com Yeah, patron.com's left flagrant. I think

9:26

so. Oh my god. I feel like

9:28

a shameless promo That one exactly. Five

9:30

dollars a month. Complete shameless promo. I

9:32

felt like me showing up at WWW

9:35

raw. That was my special came. That

9:37

was real. Even though I bought those

9:39

tickets months, when did we buy those

9:41

tickets up? Do you remember? 2022. You

9:44

know it's 20 about wrestling. Wrestling fans

9:46

are like, I actually really like this

9:48

about wrestling. So back in the day

9:50

there was this illusion that like wrestling

9:52

wasn't scripted and all these like punches

9:55

or landing or landing, whatever. Now the

9:57

base is so acutelyly aware. script in

9:59

now you don't have the facade there's

10:01

no like thing that there's no live

10:03

it needs to be told now you

10:06

get to get them on story but

10:08

they appreciate they know all the terminology

10:10

they know like baby faced they know

10:12

he'll they know all that kind of

10:15

stuff they know like when you get

10:17

a move done on you it's called

10:19

a bump or whatever so you know

10:21

they're seeing this thing happening and they're

10:23

reacting To the thing as if it

10:26

was a script, which I've honestly really

10:28

hurt me because I didn't realize that

10:30

this whole fucking thing was gonna happen

10:32

in the first place Yeah, you know,

10:35

but and I felt I felt this

10:37

is your close friend. Yeah, it's just

10:39

my close friend. It was a wedding.

10:41

I was gonna not go to already

10:43

But now I'm really not gonna But

10:46

I did get an invite and it's

10:48

on site for it. Okay, but I

10:50

do appreciate the wrestling fans as well.

10:52

I'm trying to say I was surprised

10:54

Maybe five percent kids. Mark and I

10:57

are the only people that have kids

10:59

in all of New York. And Mark

11:01

and I own them. Yeah, that's maybe

11:03

it. But the whole way I'll kept

11:06

on leading it over is like, oh,

11:08

where the kids, dude? Yeah, you're the

11:10

kids, dude. You're a fucking cow. You're

11:12

the kids, dude. You're a fucking crowd.

11:14

I was trying to keep them away

11:17

from this guy. Yeah. You know what

11:19

I mean? Like if you go to

11:21

like an NBA game, you can't talk

11:23

all the shit you want to talk.

11:26

Whereas like with these guys, you can

11:28

go crazy. And just like it's- They

11:30

talk shit too! Yeah, it's fun. One

11:32

of these guys was talking crazy shit

11:34

to me. Same what? I watch a

11:37

special, that shit sucks. That's crazy. Yeah.

11:39

I watch a special, that shit sucks.

11:41

I'm like, I'm like trying to dap

11:43

him up and he goes, he's like,

11:45

he's like, he's like, I can't, I

11:48

can't slap your hand in front of

11:50

all these people, like he's really keeping

11:52

up the cage. You know what he

11:54

said? Because I can't slap your hand

11:57

in front of all these people, but

11:59

I just want to say, I like

12:01

you, you're a funny guy. And I'm

12:03

like, oh, thank you. And he goes,

12:05

I can't slap your hand in front

12:08

of all these people. And I'm like,

12:10

okay, you're a piece of shit. Like

12:12

I didn't understand. I didn't know how

12:14

to be angry and positive. You know,

12:17

but it's, you know, the commitment to

12:19

it. So like I have a lot

12:21

of respect to the people who aren't

12:23

doing the thing they're like on the

12:25

sidelines But they're like invested still they're

12:28

doing their little thing. They're like emotional

12:30

or they just didn't move on someone

12:32

didn't move on them and they're like

12:34

reeling But they're committed to that shit.

12:36

Yeah, because there's a moment where I'm

12:39

just sitting on a The ropes, I'm

12:41

like, so what y'all don't? Like, yeah,

12:43

this seat, it's fine. You gotta get

12:45

this one, real seat. Like, I'm just

12:48

there, one point, I just shook the

12:50

ropes, didn't know what to do. You

12:52

didn't know, I didn't know, and told

12:54

me what to do in that moment.

12:56

Not that there would be anybody telling

12:59

me, I don't even know, anybody telling

13:01

me what to do in that moment.

13:03

Not there would be anybody. If you

13:05

give me the energy, I need it.

13:07

Yeah, yeah. Tell you, it's raw out

13:10

there, bro. You're just 100% right. You're

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raw. That's amazing. What's up, guys? World's

13:14

fastest dates ever, okay? Don't fast forward.

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All right, we're gonna be at Mary

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Lou in New York City, March 25th.

13:21

I'm gonna be in Portland, Maine, April

13:23

27th. I'm also gonna be in Bangor,

13:25

and Raleigh all coming up that will

13:27

be available on my website the market

13:30

on.com and we'll see you guys there.

13:32

Thanks so much. Can you take that

13:34

stupid picture of the three of us

13:36

down? This is nice. I feel like

13:39

my wife hiding from the camera. This

13:41

is beautiful. Dove showing off his jawline.

13:43

Looks good honestly. Yeah. The other fans

13:45

over there were awesome because we were

13:47

with like the hardcore fans. And tell

13:50

me they're reactivity. What are they going

13:52

crazy? And they're aware of... all the

13:54

storylines they're aware of. Oh yeah, yeah,

13:56

yeah. And they're like talking shit. They're

13:58

like, oh, we're on the road to

14:01

Russell Mania. Just get ready after Russell

14:03

Man. It's gonna suck. Everyone's got like

14:05

their own like directoral cuts on what

14:07

should happen. Love it. There's one dude

14:10

in the very front. So everyone that

14:12

bought a front row seat got a

14:14

commemorative chair to take home with them.

14:17

And there was a fan of what?

14:20

So like if you if you bought

14:22

like the front row seats on the

14:24

lining they gave you a commemorative like

14:26

a WDB folding chair with like the

14:29

logo and stuff all have logos so

14:31

they're just getting you to clean up.

14:33

They find a way to get the

14:35

fans to clean up. I like them

14:38

out with chairs. Yeah. And there's a

14:40

guy in the very front in a

14:42

wheelchair. Oh no. And they were like

14:44

do you want your chair? And he

14:47

was like yeah. And so now the

14:49

management and MSG is like, take the

14:51

chair, he's like, I want it, but

14:53

I can't, can you mail it to

14:56

me? And the guy's like, no, I

14:58

can't mail it to. So now they're

15:00

like trying to hang out on the

15:02

back of his electric wheelchair. It's like

15:05

a whole thing, he's there with his

15:07

dog, the dog's barking and everything. You

15:09

can never see that. The disabled escrow

15:11

has fire. What was your favorite match?

15:14

I mean, it's still a cage, it's

15:16

crazy. The ending with Roman rains? Yeah.

15:18

That motherfucker, like, there, certain dudes are

15:20

just, there, it. He's like a superhero.

15:23

I didn't get it until I saw

15:25

him first. Yeah, he has presence. Yeah.

15:27

See it live, there are people that

15:29

can really like command the energy and

15:32

they like milk the energy. Yeah. And

15:34

also. there's a physicality to it. Like

15:36

he's a huge guy that's incredibly agile.

15:38

And when he did that spear or

15:41

whatever the fucking is, it was like

15:43

right in front of us, it was

15:45

unbelievable. Also, the CMpunk is said, Rollins

15:47

dudes. This is another thing I look

15:50

at, like, how much do you believe

15:52

what's happening is really happened? Like, how

15:54

much do you believe the pain that

15:56

you're enduring is really there? Like, if

15:59

you watch them. They believe it. Oh

16:01

yeah. They are 100% in. They're like

16:03

sweating, they're exhausted, and we can kind

16:05

of become part of that reality if

16:08

they actually commit. Oh yeah. And I

16:10

see a punk sitting in the cage

16:12

as people are leaving. He was the

16:14

last one to leave. Yeah. I think

16:17

he was just sitting in there the

16:19

whole time. Yeah. Just milking for the

16:21

next 35 minutes. Yeah. Yeah, it's awesome.

16:23

Now it was like seeing those two

16:25

guys, like that was really elite. Yeah.

16:27

Like those those guys probably doing it

16:29

decades, but that was elite wrestling

16:32

in terms of like commitment to

16:34

that match. Oh, I mean taking of like

16:36

a suplex off the top of the cage.

16:38

Not crazy. It's insane. Yeah, like the way

16:40

the crowd reacts. I didn't realize how

16:42

hard the canvases. Like it's like a

16:45

hard, like I thought it would be like

16:47

springy. Yeah, you should see how hard the floor is.

16:49

Is it hard? Wait, is it padded? I actually want

16:51

to... No, it's not padded. My hip was a pattern.

16:53

It's not landed right in my fucking... It doesn't have

16:56

like a little like... It got a patch, like a

16:58

yoga. That's the last thing I

17:00

want to do. They make

17:02

it look like paddock for

17:04

people at home. But for

17:06

those of us, the professional.

17:08

For those of us who

17:10

are actually professional wrestlers and

17:12

been in that environment, it's

17:14

harrowing. That experience is harrowing.

17:16

For real dude. You would

17:18

make a great professional wrestler.

17:20

I mean that. Listen, that's

17:22

the last thing I want

17:24

to do. Why are you

17:26

a lot of them? You're

17:28

telling me, hold on out,

17:30

you're telling me that this

17:33

doesn't, it's a sight news

17:35

crap. Let's go. Like you

17:37

should get like it made

17:39

noise. I don't know. It

17:42

doesn't mean it's like it

17:44

is. I got the fans

17:46

into it though, I got

17:49

it, got us into it.

17:51

I didn't know where to

17:53

put my hands, I think

17:55

I almost grabbed his tuckus.

17:58

Oh, they throw. Now

18:00

watch this, watch this,

18:02

watch this, watch this,

18:04

watch this, watch this,

18:06

watch this now. So

18:08

here's this moment right

18:10

here. We're like I

18:12

want to dab him,

18:14

but I don't okay

18:16

So before that I

18:18

want to go dab

18:21

him, but I didn't

18:23

want to like mess

18:25

up his celebration just

18:27

be out there like

18:29

this That's the other

18:31

thing, like I wonder

18:33

if I did some

18:35

extra shit, but it

18:37

was, it actually worked

18:39

out. I don't know

18:41

if W.W.E. would be

18:43

that mad. Why would

18:45

they? But if it

18:47

doesn't work out, yeah.

18:49

That's even better though.

18:51

Then I'm never gonna

18:53

be W.W.C. You know,

18:55

I'm never gonna be

18:57

W.W.C. You know? I'm

18:59

never gonna be W.W.C.

19:02

You know? Yeah, dude.

19:04

You versus John Sina.

19:06

That's what I want

19:08

to see. Hell yeah,

19:10

man. Seeing home alone

19:12

there. He was hype.

19:14

He loves wrestling, shit.

19:16

Yeah, he really loves

19:18

wrestling. He really loves...

19:20

Macaulay? Macaulay. Macaulay was

19:22

there? Yeah. You didn't

19:24

see Macaulay Golden? He

19:26

was there. Macaulay Golden?

19:28

You didn't see Macaulay

19:30

Golden. I'm the one

19:32

who acts crazy questions.

19:34

That's crazy. You can't

19:36

act about that shit.

19:38

Don't they sleep together

19:41

and some shit like

19:43

that? What? Didn't you

19:45

do like sleep over

19:47

that as friends? He

19:49

got a physical, not

19:51

anything weird, but so

19:53

how do you ask

19:55

that? I just, no,

19:57

I just went up

19:59

to say, oh, it's

20:01

pleasure, me too, like

20:03

the MJ, fuck your

20:05

butt when you were

20:07

a kid, like, and,

20:09

uh, howjacks, howjack, like

20:11

that, like that. How'd

20:14

you ask him? I asked him, I

20:16

was like, yo, did MJ? Fuck your

20:18

butt. Did he jerk you and other

20:21

kids off? And he was like, yeah,

20:23

that happened. I was like, how'd he

20:25

do it? No. No. I didn't. I

20:27

was supposed to, I just say, hey,

20:30

pleasure to meet you with something. Damn.

20:32

Yeah, yeah. What would you have said?

20:34

Now you're about to tell him. You're

20:37

like, yeah, you know, it's got to

20:39

stop it, bro. You're like, yo, I'm

20:41

Jay, he's a legend, right? He said

20:44

Michael, Michael, Jordan. Michael, Jordan. Michael, Jordan.

20:46

What's a legend? Michael, Jordan. What's a

20:48

legend? You know, Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan.

20:50

Right. Michael Jordan. Right. Michael Jordan. What

20:53

to you. the only thing that I

20:55

don't like about W.W.E. is the fact

20:57

that we can't bet on it. Okay?

21:00

Yeah, that's kind of awesome. I was

21:02

thinking it was Logan Paul. But also,

21:04

there's two things I don't like about

21:07

W.W.W. Okay, it's Logan Paul. Okay, this

21:09

part timer. Yeah. And of course, the

21:11

fact that we cannot bet on it.

21:14

And, but luckily for us, there are

21:16

plenty of sports that we can't bet

21:18

on. Obviously. Great UFC card. I mean,

21:20

Justin Gaichi is back in the fucking

21:23

win column. Amazing fight against Fizziev, however

21:25

he pronounces his last name. Paredo versus

21:27

Enkalyev. That was wild. I did not

21:30

see that coming at all. Yeah. I'm

21:32

like, I didn't have a talk with

21:34

like, is he about that? That was

21:37

crazy. Anyway, plenty more UFC. We got

21:39

Volk fighting in USC Miami. I think

21:41

that's 314. I think that's April coming

21:43

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21:46

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to the show. You take this birdhole.

22:04

The Sandhill Cranes. It's brother's eating majestic

22:07

birds. Oh yeah, what is it? situation?

22:09

All the presents are originally gay. Mark's

22:11

plugging up. I'm trying to find out.

22:13

I'm trying to camp. No, my brother

22:16

called me and I was like, what

22:18

are you doing? He's like, oh, I'm

22:20

cooking up some Sandhill Crane. And I

22:23

was like, what do you mean? He's

22:25

like, yeah, it's the rib eye of

22:27

the sky. It's like one of the

22:30

nicest cuts of meat that you can

22:32

buy this side of Mississippi. So now

22:34

he's gotten into exotic meats and apparently

22:36

you can buy it online. It's super,

22:39

super rare, very expensive. It's delicious. Is

22:41

it legal? I think it's legal. Yeah.

22:43

I killed one of those ones. Really?

22:46

On a golf course, did not mean

22:48

to. I was like, there's no way

22:50

I'll hit that one bird and square

22:53

in the fucking head. But your friend

22:55

said, y'all, kiss you on the mouth.

22:57

And I fucking slow. A fucking turn,

22:59

bitch, a tiger. Hold on, we gotta

23:02

get David. We got, we got, so

23:04

I don't know if you guys have

23:06

listened to the patron. Did we say

23:09

exactly what happened, David, a legend. says,

23:11

yo I want to come kiss you

23:13

whatever on when the ball drops. And

23:16

then Miles is like bet and then

23:18

Miles hits David up later because David

23:20

hasn't followed up at all and he

23:23

goes, yo by the way you made

23:25

a great decision to stay in like

23:27

it's rainy outside which to me in

23:29

retrospect is like You were you fell

23:32

rejected and you're like I just want

23:34

to make sure that you're not out

23:36

Yeah, and then David's like all right,

23:39

I'll come kiss you whatever if you

23:41

want that and then so he comes

23:43

to meet you and you're already there

23:46

with two other gay guys You're hanging

23:48

out of a bunch of gay guys.

23:50

That's very true and and then 20

23:52

minutes after the new year. Yeah, so

23:55

nothing to do with the ball dropping

23:57

or anything you guys share a kiss

23:59

with your lips one lip on top

24:02

like like like that also his birthday

24:04

20 minutes after my birthday actually. Okay,

24:06

so that is, that is, okay, so

24:09

I forgot that part. Okay, so Dave,

24:11

I don't know how much you heard

24:13

of what, how I just broke that

24:15

story down, but is this, is this

24:18

more or less true? Yeah, sure. 100%.

24:20

So again, did you feel a little

24:22

bit like sad for him? Like, you

24:25

would like flippantly said, yeah, we're gonna

24:27

totally like make out on your birthday

24:29

or whatever, like, make out on New

24:32

Year's, joking around. You don't follow up

24:34

because obviously you're not going to kiss

24:36

Miles, right? You guys like work together,

24:39

you're also both like women, and then

24:41

he hits you up later in the

24:43

night. He does hit me up. Yeah,

24:45

he goes, oh God. Can you not

24:48

hit him up? Can I ask Miles

24:50

to question? Yeah, please. Your memory is

24:52

bad. Right. Look at him dominating you

24:55

son. I understand why he liked him.

24:57

He didn't even ask a question. He

24:59

said, Miles, your memory is bad. Miles

25:02

goes, yes daddy. I would say at

25:04

times it can. Your memory is bad,

25:06

okay, and you would say my memory

25:08

is phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I wanted

25:11

to clarify that before. Caesar remember when

25:13

you're hitting in front of a bad.

25:15

Okay, so all right, so your memory's

25:18

bad. You, your memory's phenomenal. Okay, okay.

25:20

So what do you think exactly is

25:22

going down? So what happened was we

25:25

were at dinner for Miles's birthday. Yeah.

25:27

With Shifty, it was me Shifty and

25:29

Miles. Yeah. I was saying like, oh

25:32

shit, I've had like a phenomenal streak

25:34

of having a New Year's kiss for

25:36

the last seven years. Yeah. Yeah, what's

25:38

up. David, on New Year's Eve. I

25:42

don't have a great memory,

25:44

so maybe you can remember

25:46

this really well. On New

25:49

Year's Eve, have you ever

25:51

kissed a guy besides me?

25:54

No. But you're lying on

25:56

the stand. How can you

25:59

prove that I'm going to

26:01

jail? I'm going to go

26:03

on the talk. But you're

26:06

on the talk. But you're

26:08

lying on the stand. How

26:11

can you prove that I'm

26:13

lying? You've told me before

26:16

that you just said that

26:18

so you wouldn't sign a

26:20

thing. Wow. I mean, you're

26:23

all right, continue to understand.

26:25

So that's what you want

26:28

to hear? Like, you guys

26:30

are about talking about your

26:33

fucking. He's like, well, got

26:35

him. God, damn shit. Yeah,

26:37

okay. Lady after Logan, oh

26:40

shit. I'm gonna go after

26:42

it. As a joke or

26:45

serious? It was kind of

26:47

as a joke. What do

26:50

you mean by that? Oh

26:52

yeah. Oh the Mars, you

26:54

might be back. Go ahead,

26:57

go ahead, go look at

26:59

Brandon's face up there. Prand

27:02

him on a project. So

27:04

I'm out in East Village

27:07

and I'm texting Miles, like,

27:09

hey, I'm at this party.

27:11

It's kind of asked, so

27:14

after the ball drops, I'm

27:16

gonna come to you, share

27:19

it from your location. I

27:21

go to the bar. Miles

27:24

is at the back table

27:26

with him, his girl, and

27:28

then a gay couple. I

27:31

walk in and Miles gets

27:33

up and meets me halfway.

27:36

Oh, no. So he initiated

27:38

this pack. It's crazy! I

27:41

was at Studio 151 on

27:43

10th and C. It's crazy

27:45

he over to me and

27:48

I stood up and he's

27:50

like, you fucking. Some might

27:53

say that you put more

27:55

of a commitment into it,

27:58

but you can also say

28:00

that your excitement made you

28:02

leave your table and you

28:05

know, I've never left my

28:07

table and walked five steps

28:10

to go meet a friend

28:12

to come back sit down.

28:15

Like that's a weird thing.

28:17

It was on the way

28:19

and met me. in the

28:22

middle of the bar. Yeah,

28:24

that's a true ball. Okay,

28:27

so he walks up, he

28:29

grabs you by the way.

28:32

Yeah, yeah. Exactly. And then

28:34

we packed. Miles leaned in.

28:36

Miles leaned in the hole.

28:39

Okay, yeah, yeah. So Miles

28:41

did turn his head all

28:44

this? I was like this.

28:46

You went straight. Yeah. No,

28:49

but I'm not even straight.

28:51

I kind of like tucked

28:53

my chin in. Yeah. And

28:56

then Miles went. Oh. No,

28:59

Brandon, what are you thinking, bro?

29:01

This is un- I thought y'all

29:03

were bullshit. Excuse me. And this

29:06

is not the name. It's just

29:08

like, who else have you kissed

29:11

beside me? Yeah, that doesn't seem

29:13

jealous right there. It's not even

29:15

true. I'm being slandered right now.

29:18

Okay, so hold on. So you

29:20

obviously are approaching David, right? Like,

29:22

so David has to slow with

29:25

him. I gotta dab him up.

29:27

I gotta dab him. And I

29:29

was like, God damn, bro, you

29:32

know what I'm saying? God damn

29:34

bro, get away from me. And

29:37

then he grabs my face. That's

29:39

not true. That's not true. That's

29:41

not true. You grabbed his head?

29:44

Yeah. I couldn't get away. That's

29:46

not true. Yeah. I couldn't get

29:48

away. That's not true. Yeah. I

29:51

couldn't get away. That's not true.

29:53

Yeah. I couldn't get away. And

29:55

you're like, yeah. Like

29:58

it was convenient for me. That's

30:00

crazy. To get a smooth. Okay,

30:02

who pulled away from the kids?

30:04

I screamed out loud. No, I

30:06

screamed out loud. I said, get

30:08

away from me. Yeah, this feels

30:10

like something else going on here.

30:12

Yeah, what happened afterwards? Yeah, this

30:15

feels like something personal. Yeah, I

30:17

feel like there's something else going

30:19

on here. We got out of

30:21

me the rest of the night.

30:23

I went back with a girl.

30:25

And? Because you were so bored.

30:27

Did you guys end up hooking

30:29

up at the apartment, you and

30:32

the girl? Yeah. And did you

30:34

guys have sex? Yeah. And did

30:36

you think about David's face at

30:38

all then? No. No images of

30:40

it popped in, no thoughts of

30:42

the kiss at all during the

30:44

entire sexual encounter. There's no point

30:46

where they were, oh, that was

30:49

funny when we kissed or whatever.

30:51

No. Yeah, that was almost like

30:53

a three-stone because she had both

30:55

the outside was like... That's a

30:57

good point. That's an interesting point.

30:59

Yeah. They're close to it. Devil's

31:01

Triangle there. But no. What did

31:03

the gay couple say about the

31:06

kiss? Did they rate it? No.

31:08

No clear, I straight guys. Did

31:10

you share it with the gay

31:12

couple that you guys just had

31:14

a kiss? I think they saw.

31:16

I think they saw. So the

31:18

whole bar saw. Name I was

31:20

a gay bar? No, Stripar. East

31:23

Village. What was the name of

31:25

the one? You guys tried. I

31:27

mean, they turned it not able

31:29

to take over. Sounds a good

31:31

bar. It's a nice bar. It's

31:33

a good time. And it has

31:35

it been awkward at all between

31:37

you guys since? Have you guys?

31:40

No? No, no, no. Our relationship

31:42

about stronger, if anything. No, we're

31:44

great. We're very good friends. Do

31:46

you guys think it'll happen again?

31:48

No. No. Would you guys just

31:50

do it now for funsy Wednesday?

31:52

He's like, how much money? No,

31:54

no. No. on the pod yeah

31:57

hold on hold on hold on

31:59

can we reenact it hold on

32:01

can we reenact it so one

32:03

of you comes down the stairs

32:05

yeah and one right here and

32:07

then you just meet right in

32:09

front of the foliage one little

32:11

peck and then we just move

32:14

on with the show we have

32:16

so much to discuss come on

32:18

no because David's dad will kill

32:20

him next time he sees them

32:22

and we can't have that's not

32:24

true it's just a fun little

32:26

game we'll blur it blur it

32:28

well He's just like this doesn't

32:31

matter at all. He's not insecure

32:33

about this. So that wouldn't be

32:35

something that would make you feel

32:38

comfortable at all. Like we could

32:40

show how progressive we are in

32:42

the flavor of the favorite pocket.

32:45

What's good? What's the number? What's

32:47

the number? What's the number? What's

32:49

the number? What do you think?

32:52

There's a number that has to

32:54

be a number that there's a

32:57

number that's incredibly low. Okay, summer

32:59

is gonna be, I'll pay you

33:01

to do it. I'll give you

33:03

guys 20 bucks, let me do

33:06

it. So you did it for

33:08

free, or it? Yeah, I already

33:10

did it, and the world knows.

33:12

So we might as well just

33:14

see you guys do it again

33:17

real fast, no big deal. It's

33:19

a fun little thing, it's wrestling.

33:21

It's a fun little thing, it's

33:23

wrestling. It's, it wouldn't be, it

33:26

wouldn't be right. No, we're not

33:28

gonna, I mean they're starving kids

33:30

in Africa, bro, we're not

33:32

gonna give you guys two

33:34

grants. There's a poor gay

33:36

couple in this state. I

33:38

think it's a fun little

33:40

game to play. Listen, you

33:42

guys do it. Hold on.

33:44

You guys do it. And

33:46

then me and Alex, we'll

33:48

do it after. We'll do

33:50

it. We'll do it. After

33:53

it's insane. We'll do it.

33:55

So we'll do it right

33:57

after. We'll do it. We'll

33:59

do it. I certainly

34:01

used Alex in my life. I'll never

34:03

have a lie. No. So we're not

34:05

going to get any little peck? Just

34:07

a pack! A pack! A pack! Right

34:10

into the blue chewette. We do a

34:12

pack. That's obviously great for the sponsors.

34:14

That's a great, that's a great sponsor.

34:16

So I call them admin. But no.

34:18

This would be a bad idea. Come

34:20

on, bro. For two grand miles. Each.

34:23

Each. Each two grants. Damn it, he's

34:25

used to, no, two gratties, considerate it.

34:27

What's the number, Maas? It's got to

34:29

be a number. You're going to say

34:31

no to 25 Honda? 2500 for a

34:33

pack, some of you've already done. You've

34:35

already did it. Yeah, this is how

34:38

it happened in Hollywood, bro. This is

34:40

Weinstein's hotel area, let's go. No, no,

34:42

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34:44

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35:01

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35:04

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35:06

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38:29

Fuckin'kt-hudson and Chet Hanks, no, I'll shout

38:31

out to y'a-out to y'a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a- But yeah,

38:33

it's just been so cool man. Honestly,

38:35

like, maybe the coolest part is just

38:37

a lot of people who went through

38:39

IVF and like way more harrowing stories

38:42

than ours. Like sending me these like

38:44

these long D.M.s and I try to

38:46

read them all and just kind of

38:48

like about their experience and then some

38:50

of them will be like just laughing

38:52

about it and then some of these

38:54

like really like emotional things that now

38:57

they got to laugh at this experience

38:59

that was like really brutal for them

39:01

like people going through it for 11

39:03

years and then. they would always end

39:05

the message about like you know with

39:07

their kid or just how excited they

39:10

were to have their kid and I

39:12

think that's maybe the coolest thing is

39:14

like seeing how excited people are to

39:16

have families and like just this unbelievable

39:18

enthusiasm to like bring life into the

39:20

world and yeah every message like I'm

39:23

here with my one-year-old and I'm watching

39:25

this shit and yeah it's just a

39:27

That to me has been just unbelievable.

39:29

Random people have been hitting me up

39:31

from high school. They haven't talked to

39:33

like 10 years. No way. Just being

39:35

like, bro, just put on the special,

39:38

crazy. Like didn't know what to expect,

39:40

like, but we're going through the same

39:42

thing right now. Like, I didn't even

39:44

know this thing right now. Like, I

39:46

didn't even know this thing right now.

39:48

Like, I didn't even know this thing

39:51

right now. Like, I didn't even know

39:53

this thing right now. Like, like, like,

39:55

I didn't even know the same thing

39:57

right now. me their miracle babies of

39:59

what they're saying. Yeah. Like ours, I

40:01

know you're probably getting that times of

40:04

a million. No, it's awesome. Yeah, you

40:06

touched people's soul with this one. Yeah,

40:08

it felt really good. I felt really

40:10

proud. I just felt really proud of

40:12

it. You know, I was obviously proud

40:14

of it before when you're editing it,

40:16

but you're also watching it so many

40:19

times that you're like, you just lose

40:21

sight of everything. You know, you're just

40:23

like, I don't know, is this even

40:25

funny. Having people say I did not

40:27

know what to expect. Like that like

40:29

a lot of people getting emotional at

40:32

it. That was really cool. Just to

40:34

make a piece of art that they

40:36

could you feel all this the gambit

40:38

of emotions and Yeah, I guess surprising

40:40

people like even articles that will come

40:42

out where there are people who They

40:45

you know, they definitely did not maybe

40:47

expect to like something that I did

40:49

and they were maybe kind of offended

40:51

by some of the topics, but the

40:53

story penetrated past their I don't want

40:55

to call like prejudice of me but

40:57

like this this woman wrote this article

41:00

and it was like really cool and

41:02

she had went through it and it

41:04

was for like parenting magazine or something

41:06

like that but uh the jokes were

41:08

not necessarily jokes that she would would

41:10

laugh at like and that's fine people

41:13

have their different type of sense in

41:15

here I don't care but like it's

41:17

so it's so cool like the story

41:19

allowed her to laugh at some of

41:21

the jokes and allowed her really relate

41:23

to the journey and I thought that

41:26

was awesome, one for her to even

41:28

feel comfortable saying that. Like a lot

41:30

of these people, even writing an article

41:32

like that, they're like scared about the

41:34

scrutiny. And so many people are terrified

41:36

of like pissing off their publication or

41:38

pissing off their community or whatever it

41:41

is. But yeah, the fact that she

41:43

felt compelled to share that. And then

41:45

all these other people commenting on it

41:47

just saying how they also watched it.

41:49

It's really cool. And hopefully de-stigmatizing it

41:51

a little bit, because I know it

41:54

can be a... That shit can be

41:56

like lonely and isolating. Yeah, so if

41:58

we can just make it make it

42:00

funny and make it a sort like

42:02

a source of pride not embarrassment Like,

42:04

yo, I'll do anything to have a

42:07

kid. Like, I will fucking pay any

42:09

amount of money. I'll inject anything in

42:11

my body. Like, that's how much life

42:13

is important to me. And like, family

42:15

is important to me. And I think

42:17

that's how you should look at it.

42:19

That's how I said, like, initially, I

42:22

was embarrassed as fuck. Don't get me

42:24

wrong. I'm like, well, my wife even

42:26

want to fuck me anymore? Like, I

42:28

literally. You know, getting to that point

42:30

where it's like, nah, like this is,

42:32

that's amazing how much that she wants

42:35

to have a family with me and

42:37

like, that's amazing how much we want

42:39

to have, how important it is. Yeah.

42:41

But the love is so strong that

42:43

you would go through such a difficult

42:45

process. Anything. Yeah. I'm gonna lie to

42:48

my kid, I'll tell him he's IVF.

42:50

I'll be like, I'll be shell down

42:52

money for you. I think everybody should

42:54

do this. Yeah, I'm for sure, he's

42:56

like, you got me for free? I'm

42:58

like, damn. Show him this kid, they

43:00

put down cash for them. They go

43:03

through some shit. It's real. It's real.

43:05

It's like, I'm not letting him watch

43:07

his mom's. Yeah, so now that's. That's

43:09

been very cool and then just just

43:11

super grateful and the amount of people

43:13

just sharing it like there's so many

43:16

people posting it and going yo friends

43:18

check this out or saying go check

43:20

this out and that's really how I

43:22

realize things were like you could do

43:24

awesome promo we had some very cool

43:26

promo like shout out Matt for doing

43:29

you can do all these things but

43:31

if at the end of the day

43:33

the people don't share it yeah word

43:35

of mouth is the real really the

43:37

only thing that moves it moves it

43:39

right it's like if the people watch

43:41

it and And yeah, like, the, like,

43:44

I think it's possible, you know, you

43:46

see a lot of, like, people, like,

43:48

they pop into the top five, or

43:50

they pop in the top 10, and

43:52

then they kind of, like, leave quickly,

43:54

they get, like, a big bump. And

43:57

just to be there, like, throughout the

43:59

week. Oh, yeah. It's just, like, it's

44:01

awesome. Just, like, it's awesome. Just fucking

44:03

awesome. So. So many people have hit

44:05

me, you know, about the outfit, about

44:07

the outfit, Have you gotten those messages?

44:10

People are like, yo, I need that.

44:12

I was like, all right. I've been

44:14

sending links. I've just been, I've been,

44:16

I've been lining them up. That's an

44:18

age difference for sure, because everybody hitting

44:20

me up is just like, man, I

44:23

went through this. Yeah, I know. I'm

44:25

saying, we're the pants for a minute.

44:27

Anyway, so I appreciate y' y'all, man.

44:29

Thank you so much. To go check

44:31

it now on Netflix. I even hate

44:33

saying the word woke, but like the

44:35

the wokeness of Hollywood was a reaction

44:38

like an over correction to what happened

44:40

with Weinstein. So. Everybody felt, not everybody,

44:42

but I guess a lot of people

44:44

there felt as if Weinstein was an

44:46

example of... Don't even go anywhere. Was

44:48

Weinstein was an example of what all

44:51

of Hollywood was, right? So they're like,

44:53

the world thinks that we are all

44:55

these horrible... because just bringing girls up

44:57

to hotel rooms, etc. So what we

44:59

have to do is prove that we

45:01

are not that, and then they over-correct

45:04

in the other direction. That's a good

45:06

take. I thought it was interesting. I

45:08

mean, it could be one of these

45:10

like, you know, posthumous justifications. But I

45:12

do see that like... Because

45:15

that is kind of the stain

45:17

that Hollywood had and maybe even

45:19

still has for a while, right?

45:21

Like Hollywood is just a bunch

45:23

of pedophiles. They're just saying that

45:25

about everybody in Hollywood. So they're

45:27

reacting to like online chatter, right?

45:29

And they're like, oh my God,

45:31

they think all of us producers

45:33

were all just a bunch of

45:36

these wets and we fuck with

45:38

kids and we just don't care

45:40

about people at all. And it's

45:42

uncomfortable environments for women. And then

45:44

maybe all this rhetoric gets pushed

45:46

during that time period. I think

45:48

it was right around like 2015,

45:50

2016. All that converged. But it's

45:52

kind of interesting. I never thought

45:54

of that as like reactionary to

45:57

Weinstein. I thought it was just

45:59

like this cultural impulse. Yeah. But

46:01

having specifically, Weinstein being like emblematic

46:03

of Hollywood and then all these

46:05

other producers going, oh fuck, are

46:07

they going to think that's us?

46:09

especially because everyone knew the Weinstein

46:11

shit. That's everyone, it was an

46:13

open seagr, everyone was like, yeah,

46:15

this guy's a creep. Like Courtney

46:18

Love's, like, yeah, don't go to

46:20

his hotel room. Like, everyone knows.

46:22

Some of these mother fuckers will

46:24

tell me, like, yeah, everybody knew

46:26

about it. They'll, like, tell me

46:28

in conversation, like, because they think

46:30

that, like, they're telling me something

46:32

that. I don't know, they're like

46:34

sharing with me, they're like, hey,

46:36

everybody knew about it, and I'm

46:39

looking at these motherfakers like, well,

46:41

why didn't y'all do something? Is

46:43

there something we don't understand about

46:45

this? Like, I mean, it was

46:47

a crazy conversation I had with

46:49

a dude who's like related to

46:51

an agency, and he was just

46:53

like related to an agency, and

46:55

he was just like, yeah, I

46:57

mean, people knew they were just

46:59

sending girls to his hotel. Yeah,

47:02

we should have told him that,

47:04

like, hey, you don't have to

47:06

do all the DUI stuff, and

47:08

that's fine. Yeah, we should have

47:10

told him that, like, hey, you

47:12

don't do all the DUI stuff,

47:14

just stop the... Yeah, and that's

47:16

fine with us, yeah, maybe that

47:18

is, okay, so that's the other

47:20

thing, it's like, now, let's say

47:23

it's all merit-based, right, like acting

47:25

is pure merit-based, like, nothing else

47:27

matters, right? But these executives and

47:29

producers, like, they don't want to

47:31

have sex with Meryl Streep, right?

47:33

And she doesn't want it. And

47:35

then speak for herself. Mosewood, you'd

47:37

do that, for sure. What's the

47:39

other Meryl Streep? What's the other

47:41

Meryl Streep? What's the other Meryl

47:44

Streep? What's her name? It's like,

47:46

two of three. No, no. There's

47:48

another one, like, for the story.

47:50

I mean, she's pretty, she got

47:52

a little, who's the woman who

47:54

knows all about, um, home decor.

47:56

Martha Stewart, yeah, she got a

47:58

little, that, uh, who's the woman

48:00

who knows all about, um, home

48:02

decor, Martha Stewart, yeah, she got

48:05

Martha Stewart in there, right? Yeah,

48:07

but Martha, I mean, David Lips,

48:09

I see what you like, goes.

48:11

Yeah, how you know his lips

48:13

that well? I mean now that

48:15

the focus is on him. You

48:17

got some lips. You just mad

48:19

because you got lips that you

48:21

don't. You have his big-ass mustache.

48:23

I've got it back. You don't

48:26

have a top lip. You got

48:28

to get some colors. Yeah, you

48:30

just get a big mask. And

48:32

I just focus on my bottom

48:34

lip. My bottom lip is nice.

48:36

I'm more bottom-lipped. I got that

48:38

from my mom. You're bottom left.

48:40

You're bottom left. Yeah. Oh man,

48:42

actually I don't even know if

48:44

my mom got a bottom lit

48:46

man. I was looking at my,

48:49

I was at the museum I

48:51

went with Shiloh to the Museum

48:53

of Natural History and I was

48:55

looking at all these dinosaur bones

48:57

and I was like that's what

48:59

my mom's mouth was. It's just,

49:01

it's just jaw and jaw. Just

49:03

clam, she's a herbivore! My mom's

49:05

like a herbivore! Watch this, with

49:07

all due respect, don't mom. It's

49:10

all due respect. Don't do respect.

49:12

That's my, that's standard camera, like

49:14

that. Bob! Can't say that. Andrew,

49:16

stop letting your friends run holes

49:18

in my walls! Yeah, bro. Look

49:20

at that. Look at that. And

49:22

think of your mom's crazy, crap.

49:24

So constantly, constantly. I told you

49:26

my mom took my nephew of

49:28

the natural history mission. She's like,

49:31

none of these exist. I was

49:33

just joking, did I not tell

49:35

you this? We went and little

49:37

Ali was like, I saw a

49:39

dinosaur at the museum. And my

49:41

mom was like, what did you

49:43

really see? And he was like,

49:45

I saw a reenactment of dinosaur

49:47

bones. And she was like, what

49:49

did you really see? He was

49:52

like, I saw a plaster mold

49:54

of what they thought dinosaur bones

49:56

would have looked like. And my

49:58

mom was like, see, there you

50:00

go. They've never discovered a dinosaur

50:02

from prior to 1826. And everyone's

50:04

like, yeah, dinosaurs aren't real, whatever,

50:06

ruins the dinner. Then my mom

50:08

leaves over and goes, but dragons,

50:10

dragons, no way. She's like, dragons are in

50:13

the Bible. Look into it. I love your

50:15

mom. Our mom should go to the National

50:17

History Museum. I mean, that would be a

50:19

wild experience, because my mom will believe anything.

50:21

I get that from my mom. The last

50:23

article I read, that's the truth. My mom

50:25

is 100% on that shit. She'll just be

50:27

sending me, I don't even want to get

50:29

into it. But I know how, like she's

50:31

not built for the internet at all. Because

50:33

my mom likes to research, she likes to

50:35

read. But before you would go get a

50:37

book from like Barnes & Noble, and there

50:39

was somebody who looked at the book to make

50:42

sure it was somewhat true. And now my mom's

50:44

just on Google. I'm getting caught by ads.

50:46

Oh no, it's not good. It's not

50:48

good at all. Bro, I was with

50:50

Derek Pose, I saw him get caught

50:52

by an ad. Oh yeah? Like we

50:54

were scrolling on my phone, he goes,

50:56

wait, doctors hate this trick? No way.

50:59

I swear to God. No, what's the

51:01

trick? What's the trick? And I was

51:03

like, Derek, this is an ad. He goes,

51:05

no. Yeah, Derek, Derek, I get

51:07

it, bro. I get fish almost

51:09

every day. I got to screen

51:11

shots of screenshots of Tanya. I

51:13

got this notification from Google about

51:15

it. And at least now can

51:18

check if it's a real Google

51:20

notification. They made a fake email

51:22

that kind of looked like mine. It

51:24

was like, yeah. Or something like that.

51:26

And they're like, they added my actual

51:28

email to that. And I got this

51:30

notification from Google about it. And at

51:32

least now can check if it's a

51:34

real Google notification. Because you used to,

51:36

I would get these notifications from like,

51:39

super Google at something.net. And Gmail. Yeah,

51:41

I would get those on that. God

51:43

damn it, got me. Yes, Gmail. Yeah.

51:45

So, and then I hit con here

51:47

at that. She's like, please don't ever

51:49

respond to anything. She's like, the way

51:51

that you should respond to any of

51:53

these concerns is just ignore all of

51:55

them. Yes. Yeah. She'll just fish the

51:57

fuck the fuck out of the fuck out of the

51:59

fuck. It's like my email, say it

52:02

out. I'll send the fake one.

52:04

I'm really not built for this.

52:06

I'm really not built for technology.

52:08

Come on. Yeah. Just trying to

52:10

sneak out again. All right, David.

52:12

Thank you. Anyway, go to the

52:14

Natural History Museum with your curants.

52:16

Like, the coolest thing out. You

52:18

should definitely do that when he

52:20

is like a little bit older,

52:22

where they recognize shit. Because they're

52:24

still at the age where they

52:26

don't know what's fake and real.

52:28

So like every doll that my daughter

52:30

has or every like, she loves animals, so

52:32

every like fake stuffed animal, she believes is

52:35

a real animal. And then she sees my

52:37

dog and she also believes it's a real

52:39

animal because it is. But... She cannot discern between the

52:41

two. So when we're at the Natural History Museum and

52:43

you see these like beautiful recreations of like what a

52:45

wooly mammoth was, she's like that's an alive animal. Oh,

52:47

that's awesome. And she's just losing her fucking mind. I

52:49

mean, it was the coolest. I mean, it was the

52:51

coolest. You get everything. Like, nothing's actually made for adults. I'm

52:53

realizing now. It's made for your kid to look at it and go

52:55

crazy and you just sit there smiling for hours. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It

52:57

was like, it was like, it was like, like, like, like, like, like,

53:00

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

53:02

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

53:04

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

53:06

like, like, like And you're even better. But then you're

53:08

going to have to come up with answers. Nah, he

53:10

just makes it up. I have no problem making it

53:13

up. Like are dinosaurs real or are you going to?

53:15

A hundred percent real. Okay. Yeah, so you're going to

53:17

a lot of? No, I'm not going to lie. Yeah,

53:19

I think that they're real. I think they were

53:22

birds. Yeah, yeah, they have feathers and

53:24

shit. Like that's something I learned, like,

53:26

like, they got some good little information

53:28

at some of these booths. So, on

53:30

islands, right, that are remote? It's like,

53:32

the museums, yeah, actually. Everyone got some

53:34

city, right, you know, they do. It's

53:36

not just pictures. So, remote islands, and

53:38

the information informs like the world that

53:40

we live in, right? So, on these

53:42

remote islands, the small animals. tend to

53:44

be much bigger because there's not as much

53:47

natural predators there. Right? So there's more of

53:49

an abundance of food. The big animals tend

53:51

to be smaller, right? Like they have these

53:53

like tiny miniature elephants that exist in some

53:55

parts of the world. And they're like the

53:57

size of a dog. And they get smaller

53:59

because they're... just not enough food for them

54:01

to eat in this tiny little lounge

54:03

just walking around all day. Insular dwarfism.

54:05

Yeah, is that what it's called? Okay yeah

54:08

and then what are they called the

54:10

gigantism is is what happens to the

54:12

small animals and then that's why like

54:14

you'll see like a Samoan women are

54:17

so big and it's just because it's

54:19

not that's not what I mean it

54:21

is no I think because there wasn't

54:23

enough natural predators so they could just

54:25

eat all the I did a little

54:28

bit I did a little bit I

54:30

think there was like a there was

54:32

like a line of thinking and then

54:34

I took it there's gigantic gigantic and

54:36

there's no real big natural predator on

54:39

an island before white people. You go

54:41

to Asia, they're little, they're any bitty,

54:43

and then on this island are huge,

54:45

it's the Honda. And I think it's

54:48

because they have all the coconuts or

54:50

whatever they eat at their disposal, and

54:52

there's no real big natural predator. Oh

54:54

wow. What's the Simone's natural predator on

54:56

an island before white people? Hard disease?

54:59

I thought that the Native Americans were

55:01

on the smoking ship way before us.

55:03

Yeah, it's crazy. White people really brought

55:05

art attacks to the islands, huh? Yeah,

55:07

yeah, yeah. It's amazing. We brought Santa

55:10

and they started dying at 50 years

55:12

old. Before that, they would just live

55:14

in eternity. They're eating vegetables. Yeah. Sugar

55:16

cigarettes. Yeah. You guys did it. Is

55:19

that the thing? Sugar cigarettes and alcohol.

55:21

Yeah. I thought that the Native Americans

55:23

were on the smoking shit way before

55:25

us. I mean tobacco, right. A little

55:27

peace fight? But yeah, I start putting

55:30

shit in it. What do you mean?

55:32

Like, but other chemicals? Like mental?

55:34

Yeah. That's where we're putting on

55:36

a tip of making news for

55:38

it. They weren't sugary enough for

55:40

the minus. So I'm asking them

55:43

to look up. So who am

55:45

I breakfast smell good before killing

55:47

my skin? I don't lie. Mentals

55:49

are amazing. Yeah. Like those, remember

55:51

those camel crush sakes? Oh, Yeda

55:53

loves those. Oh, just phenomenal. Way

55:55

better cigarette. I never understood that.

55:57

I like, I feel like... Why

56:00

do you need your cigarette to do extra things? You know? Mark, you love

56:02

sugar more than anybody on this plan. I gave it up for Lent. I'm

56:04

glad you brought this up. Bull shit! You ate a Reese's last night! I

56:06

threw it away. Miles. I watched him throw away. I really didn't watch him

56:08

throw him away. I really didn't watch him throw him. I was like, fuck

56:10

him, I was trying to corrupt. Yeah, I was trying to, I was like

56:12

corrupt. Yeah, I was trying to, I was like corrupt him. Yeah, I was

56:14

trying to, I was trying to, I was trying to, I was trying to,

56:16

I like corrupt him, I was trying to, I was trying to, I was

56:18

trying to, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like,

56:20

I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like,

56:23

I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like,

56:25

You can give up multiple things. Wow. I knew a guy that used to

56:27

inflict pain. He said I have nothing to give up, so I put like

56:29

a little like bead in my shoes, so I feel pain

56:31

throughout the day. So stupid. Sorry, guys.

56:33

What did you give up? You're a

56:35

Catholic. You're a good Catholic. You

56:37

gave up something? Absolutely nothing. Did

56:40

you even do Ash Wednesday? No. Did

56:42

you? I'm Ashie enough. I just didn't

56:44

put a lotion on my forehead.

56:46

As your forehead is too big,

56:49

then. But yeah, I didn't get

56:51

to do Ash Wednesday. I missed

56:53

out on it. We're in Austin.

56:55

I would have gone. Yeah, I saw one

56:57

dude. Turn this church is everywhere. You could have did it

57:00

if you really wanted to do it. Yeah, that's the thing.

57:02

You can make the sacrifice that we're doing. Take some dirt

57:04

off the fucking ram and book it. But it's bigger than

57:06

that. I just prayed. I've been praying. I just prayed. I've

57:08

been praying. I just prayed. I just prayed. I just prayed.

57:10

I've been praying. I just prayed to God. I just prayed.

57:12

I've been praying. Because I just prayed. I just prayed. I

57:14

just prayed. I just prayed. I've been praying. I've been praying.

57:17

I've been praying. I've been praying. I've been praying. I've been

57:19

praying. I've been praying. I've been praying. I've been praying. I've

57:21

been praying. I've been praying. I've been praying. I've been praying.

57:23

I've been praying. I've been praying. I've been praying. I've been

57:25

praying. I've been praying. I've been praying. I Are you giving

57:27

up anything for length? No.

57:30

Come on. But I did

57:32

see an interesting conversation. There's

57:34

this guy that was, there's

57:36

this show online where somebody goes

57:38

and they sit in like a

57:41

room full of people, right? And

57:43

you sit in the middle and

57:45

then other people can come sit

57:47

across from you and then you

57:49

guys debate for like three minutes.

57:51

20 v1. 20 v1? Yes. It's

57:53

like the balloon popping for white

57:56

nerds, right? So there's this guy like Sam

57:58

Cedar sitting down and then there's... this Latino

58:00

kid who sits like across from him and

58:02

he's having this argument about like the importance

58:05

I guess of morality and I think Sam

58:07

he was like asking where his morality comes

58:09

from I mean we can probably bring up

58:12

a clip or it doesn't matter but um

58:14

but it was interesting this take that he

58:16

had like that you need a religious

58:18

foundation for your morality otherwise you end

58:21

up just justifying whatever makes you

58:23

feel good. And you can't just keep

58:25

doing whatever makes you feel good because

58:27

you won't have good societal outcomes from

58:29

that. And he was taking it to the

58:31

extreme of you won't even have

58:34

procreation. Like if you take it to

58:36

its furthest logical conclusion, just doing whatever

58:38

makes you feel good in the moment

58:40

will lead to population collapse. How?

58:43

Because if you fucking, that makes you feel

58:45

good and a couple going to get past

58:47

the goalie. Yeah, but maybe you fuck with

58:49

a rubber because having a kid might not

58:51

make you feel good. I mean, right? Right,

58:54

my voice. It's Monday night wrong. Here, every

58:56

day. Watch this, watch this. Are you an

58:58

atheist? I'm a reformed Jew. I should say

59:00

that the way that these shows are set

59:03

up, I don't think he knows what everybody

59:05

else's arguments are going to be used against

59:07

him, but it seems like everybody else there

59:09

knows what that person in the middle thinks,

59:11

and they're there essentially too. Refute whatever their

59:14

beliefs are. Yeah, and usually they'll bring up

59:16

a topic and then whoever wants to go

59:18

can they run it can pop it got

59:20

it but but everybody comes there with ammunition

59:23

and that person in the beginning is not

59:25

I mean you should be prepared to defend

59:27

your beliefs but you're going up against somebody

59:29

who's already thought about every argument against you

59:32

so like one person is prepared the other

59:34

person is not but continued and so we

59:36

have a civil society we have laws that is

59:38

an interesting point that he was making right

59:40

there which is like laws are based

59:43

on like societal cohesion, but

59:45

not some like moral framework,

59:47

right? And society chooses to

59:49

do something that we might

59:51

morally object to. If you

59:53

go along with the societal decision,

59:56

you could get some shitty outcomes.

59:58

So the idea of having this

1:00:00

like moral framework that informs the

1:00:03

societal decisions much to their

1:00:05

chagrin at times can sometimes

1:00:07

protect the human experience. You know,

1:00:09

so if society all goes, hey,

1:00:11

we should have slavery, and then

1:00:13

the moral opinion is, no, that's

1:00:15

wrong to subject people to that

1:00:17

sort of behavior, you can thwart

1:00:19

what society wants. I mean, this

1:00:21

would be the argument like why

1:00:23

you want something out of simply

1:00:25

what makes people feel good. to

1:00:27

be what drives your moral compass.

1:00:29

But couldn't you say the same

1:00:31

the other way around? Because it's

1:00:33

like, if you have the moral

1:00:35

framework of religion, then we'll never

1:00:37

have like gay relations. Yeah. 100% that's why

1:00:40

this is like a, I'm not trying

1:00:42

to say one is right or

1:00:44

wrong. I'm just saying it's kind

1:00:46

of exposing the limiting factors of

1:00:48

both. It's like we want the

1:00:50

moral framework of religiosity when it

1:00:52

comes to like how we treat

1:00:54

one another, but then there are

1:00:56

certain hangups with that religiosity. the

1:00:58

religiosity. So it's kind of like

1:01:00

we're picking and choosing what we feel

1:01:02

like is right I think he's using

1:01:04

the term what civil society is but

1:01:06

like civil society throughout history has believed

1:01:08

in some pretty nefarious shit. So yeah

1:01:10

it's an interesting I think it's

1:01:13

like I keep on going I don't want

1:01:15

to interrupt at all but I think it's

1:01:17

like a really interesting discussion like how do

1:01:19

you figure out what is the best version

1:01:21

of society for the most people and the

1:01:24

reality is you kind of need a pick and

1:01:26

choose for both. You need a moral framework that

1:01:28

you might object to that's brought to you

1:01:30

by God or some higher power or something

1:01:32

else, but you also need to break that

1:01:34

framework so that certain people can have the

1:01:37

rights that they deserve as part of this

1:01:39

idea of a civil society. I don't know if

1:01:41

you get there without both. You can't just rely

1:01:43

on people to make the right decision. I think

1:01:45

is what I'm trying to say. Well, I guess

1:01:48

if you are an atheist or a secular person,

1:01:50

you could argue that, oh, all of these religious

1:01:52

dogmas just come out of basically the same exact

1:01:54

thing. So you're saying that the morality is internal

1:01:57

before religion, if God doesn't exist, which

1:01:59

I think would be... argument that there is

1:02:01

no God so therefore the rules that are

1:02:03

laid out within Judaism Islam Christianity are just

1:02:05

human beings creating what they think the social

1:02:08

structure should be and then the pushback someone

1:02:10

might give is like yeah we've created some

1:02:12

fucked up rules that like really hurt a lot of

1:02:14

people and so that's so hard for time we've gotten

1:02:16

better like and this is the best time to live

1:02:18

ever in the history of 100 I guess my question

1:02:21

is I don't have the answer my question is like

1:02:23

what is the impetus for that like what

1:02:25

is the impetus for that like what made

1:02:27

us realize was it this internal morality that

1:02:29

we have like Was it kind of like

1:02:31

erupting and we realize hey this is actually

1:02:33

wrong this goes against what we want internally

1:02:35

and we like turned a blind eye to

1:02:37

it like what well secular people might lean

1:02:39

on like natural law and say like there

1:02:41

are certain things that violate what it means

1:02:43

to be like a fruitful human So like infringing

1:02:46

on someone else's life or like sexual violence

1:02:48

stuff like that. So like we know that

1:02:50

internally as a species that that is not

1:02:52

good. So you could come to that conclusion

1:02:54

outside of the deal. But why the fuck

1:02:56

have we done it throughout the majority of

1:02:58

history? If we know that it's so wrong,

1:03:00

why have we done it continually? Like murder

1:03:02

and things like that. Murder? You know. assault women,

1:03:04

all these things. Like, why? You pointed

1:03:06

out. Like, what's kind of cracking on.

1:03:09

Hot hot, you turn. I said this.

1:03:11

Put the gloves there. But keep going,

1:03:13

keep on. Or like, Alex and Connor.

1:03:16

Yes, yeah. He'd be a good person

1:03:18

to. Right, he's great. But he popularized

1:03:20

this idea. I forget what philosopher came

1:03:23

up with it. But it's, I think

1:03:25

it's ethical and motivism. So basically it's

1:03:27

this idea that you can basically

1:03:29

just say like. Something that happens,

1:03:31

you could say, oh, boo that

1:03:33

thing. So like murder, you're not

1:03:35

saying like murder is right or

1:03:38

wrong. You're not putting like a

1:03:40

truth value on it. You're just

1:03:42

saying boo murder. So like your

1:03:44

emotional reaction to murder to something

1:03:46

is what justifies your moral compass.

1:03:48

And then ideally, whatever the majority

1:03:50

feels about a specific thing, then

1:03:52

creates the social fabric for how

1:03:54

that's enlisted into law. So then

1:03:57

how have we been so comfortable

1:03:59

with murder? So there are these

1:04:01

little spaces where murder can exist.

1:04:03

Right. It is justified, self-defense.

1:04:05

And what if it's a duel? No, then

1:04:08

if both parties are consenting, then

1:04:10

it's not murder. Oh, it's a... It's no

1:04:12

victim. It's not murder. What would we call

1:04:14

it? It's just killing. Yeah. So murder is the

1:04:16

idea that one party is not consenting. And I

1:04:18

guess both parties are consenting to whatever happens. It's

1:04:20

like a boxing match where one person ends up

1:04:22

dying. But I guess with a duel, like the

1:04:24

explicit purpose is to kill that person. One of

1:04:27

us will die. Yeah. And if they're both consenting

1:04:29

to do it, assuming there's no coercion, then. I

1:04:31

guess maybe there's like a. So I guess maybe

1:04:33

Sam's position is a little bit more optimistic

1:04:35

about the human experience. It's like, hey, we

1:04:37

are internally good and we know the right

1:04:40

thing to do. And when we're put in

1:04:42

situations where we're allowed to freely access our

1:04:44

internal morality, we will act right. And I

1:04:46

agree with that. And then, but also I

1:04:49

have, I have empathy for the other guy

1:04:51

because it's like. He might subscribe to this

1:04:53

idea like there's been a lot of

1:04:55

times where we don't act right Mm-hmm,

1:04:58

and we act horribly towards one another

1:05:00

and then having this moral framework that's

1:05:02

given by God or religion or

1:05:04

whatever is a is a constant reminder

1:05:07

that we cannot You know fall victim

1:05:09

to our instinctual desires in these moments,

1:05:11

but sometimes they've used that moral framework

1:05:14

to do horrible things. That's why this

1:05:16

is an interesting discussion. I'm not

1:05:18

saying that you're wrong about, but that's

1:05:20

why it is really interesting because there's

1:05:23

so much evidence to us doing horrible

1:05:25

shit and it would be nice if there was

1:05:27

this framework that we could look back to

1:05:29

and be like, hey, we're doing horrible shit

1:05:31

because God says it or now I guess

1:05:33

we have in America, the Constitution says it,

1:05:35

it seems like we need something to remind

1:05:37

us constantly and that we can do a

1:05:39

lot of justification for horrible behavior if we

1:05:42

want. And we can even use religion for

1:05:44

horrible behavior too. I mean people have done

1:05:46

it throughout history. It's happening right now, right?

1:05:48

They're like murk in these Christians out

1:05:50

there in Syria. And I'm sure that

1:05:52

there's like a moral justification for that.

1:05:54

There's not this like boo murder. They're

1:05:56

going nah. You know, the man upstairs

1:05:58

justifies this in some way. I thought that I

1:06:00

thought I know a lot of these shows

1:06:02

are like based on like dunking on one

1:06:04

another which is kind of Unfortunate I wish

1:06:06

there was a lot more like good faith

1:06:08

conversations for people online where it wasn't like

1:06:10

I'm gonna win It's more like what do

1:06:12

you feel? Oh, that's an interesting perspective and

1:06:14

like I feel this way and then that

1:06:16

person goes I can see why that's important.

1:06:18

Unfortunately, this this dunk culture that gets a

1:06:20

click it but I thought this but the

1:06:22

discussions like Yeah, no, it's good. It's it.

1:06:25

Like here, keep going. You have low

1:06:27

reproductive birth rates. I just don't see

1:06:29

a justification for gay. Outside of it,

1:06:31

it just feels good. Pause. So, that's,

1:06:34

okay, so, an interesting feeling is like.

1:06:36

Usually I think with at least in America

1:06:38

the the feeling of hey this feels good

1:06:40

and this is good that we're talking

1:06:42

about this mouse that is that like this

1:06:45

feels good to go like we should like

1:06:47

the experts speak on it's like if

1:06:49

someone's in the room but he goes it's

1:06:51

not like it's right or wrong it's

1:06:53

just I don't feel a justification for it

1:06:55

outside of this feels good so his I

1:06:58

guess argument hinges on this idea

1:07:00

just because something feels good doesn't

1:07:02

mean that is best for society mm-hm

1:07:05

and he'll He makes more wild shit.

1:07:07

Okay, so you're okay with a 45-year-old

1:07:09

dad with a 19-year-old daughter as well.

1:07:11

He came ready. This guy came ready,

1:07:14

right? I think we've even had this

1:07:16

discussion here, which like, okay, you have

1:07:18

people that are related, having sex,

1:07:20

without the fear of reproduction, if

1:07:22

they are consensual, is that okay?

1:07:24

It feels good to both of

1:07:27

them, they're adults, they're consenting, and

1:07:29

it doesn't, I guess, negatively impact

1:07:31

society, Like the first day in

1:07:33

my philosophy class and like college,

1:07:35

this is one of the questions

1:07:37

they brought up. This is the,

1:07:39

what was it? Dr. Small. Yeah,

1:07:41

Dr. Same sex incest. Yeah. Is

1:07:43

that unethical? Because same sex removes

1:07:45

the fear of producing a child

1:07:47

that has some sort of issue. So

1:07:49

what's wrong? So what's the problem? Now, this

1:07:52

is where we go back to the O'Connor

1:07:54

argument where it's like, like, you have this

1:07:56

innate feeling of boo, that's bad. What does

1:07:59

that come from? Is that because we've

1:08:01

been told instances that? Well, that's the

1:08:03

thing. Have we been told it or

1:08:05

do we innately feel it's wrong? Like

1:08:07

is it built into our personal

1:08:10

constitution? And you could argue on

1:08:12

a biological basis that humans feel

1:08:14

that it's wrong. Why? Like through like

1:08:16

pheromones, so like a person would

1:08:18

be more attracted to a like

1:08:21

a dissimilar person than to a

1:08:23

relative based off of like pheromone

1:08:25

levels and stuff like that. So

1:08:27

like for the reproductive health of

1:08:29

a society, most people would go

1:08:32

to diversify their genetic lineage. But

1:08:34

then you look at throughout history

1:08:36

and probably the... Except these good.

1:08:38

I mean, like... Yeah, but they

1:08:40

all have asthma, so it's like

1:08:43

the good at the... How do

1:08:45

you have asthma with that

1:08:47

notes, right? You feel like

1:08:49

you could get some oxygen

1:08:51

in there. It's the, it's

1:08:53

the, the bend, it's, it

1:08:55

gets clogged right there. Much

1:08:57

apart. It's not an air

1:08:59

oxygen. Yeah, we need, you

1:09:01

need a higher contractor, you

1:09:03

got to straight it out,

1:09:05

it's going to, well, that's

1:09:07

why I thought this is

1:09:09

an interesting discussion, like it's

1:09:11

cool to chew on these

1:09:14

things. I don't know. What is your take

1:09:16

on? What do you think is... What do

1:09:18

you think determines our decision making of right

1:09:20

and wrong? I think there is something innate.

1:09:22

I do think that there's like a biological

1:09:25

natural law. And like as someone that believes

1:09:27

in God, I would like to believe that

1:09:29

there is some type of like order that

1:09:31

God put into the universe that people can

1:09:33

come to know without God, that people can

1:09:36

come to know without God, but then additionally

1:09:38

if you come to follow some type of

1:09:40

faith background that those things are also instilled.

1:09:42

Okay. But then I also think that those

1:09:44

things get like antiquated. as time has gone

1:09:47

on, it's no longer as dangerous. Sorry, Jews

1:09:49

and Muslims. And Ethiopian Christians, apparently. Oh,

1:09:51

really? There's a bunch of people that don't

1:09:53

eat pork. Wow. Which you started looking at,

1:09:55

how many people don't eat pork? Why are

1:09:57

we eating this? Yeah, maybe they're on or

1:09:59

something. But then I think like I don't

1:10:01

know I think all the faiths that have

1:10:04

persisted probably have a lot of roots of

1:10:06

the same things that help society

1:10:08

prosper So you could make the argument

1:10:10

that Reinforcing those beliefs might be

1:10:13

the best thing for society at

1:10:15

large To a point. But we

1:10:17

also live in a non-theocratic society.

1:10:19

Yes. So like, as someone that

1:10:22

lives in America that likes religious

1:10:24

freedom, I also don't want to

1:10:26

be bound by the mandates of

1:10:29

any specific religion. Yes. Whether that

1:10:31

be Islam or Christianity or Judaism.

1:10:33

Right. So because it infringes on

1:10:35

your personal or Christianity or Judaism.

1:10:38

Right. Because it infringes on your

1:10:40

personal freedom. Right. Because it infringes on

1:10:42

your personal freedom. and maybe he has

1:10:44

issues with leftist ideology and it's easy

1:10:47

to like, you know, reconstruct an argument

1:10:49

afterwards and like place it on top

1:10:51

of it, but he's pointing at, you

1:10:53

know, birth rates declining and he's trying

1:10:55

to say if you see more like

1:10:57

left-leading ideology in countries, you see birth

1:10:59

rates declining and he's going, okay, is

1:11:02

this a like repercussion of this way

1:11:04

of thinking where you just do what

1:11:06

makes you feel good? Now, maybe, maybe

1:11:08

you have less people and maybe society

1:11:10

collapses hundreds from years now, who fucking knows,

1:11:12

but... I don't know if we build

1:11:15

society simply to create more people.

1:11:17

Right. Yes, there's a way to make

1:11:19

society, so we just make more people,

1:11:21

and it is more beneficial for that

1:11:24

specific thing. But I don't know if

1:11:26

that's the goal of civil society. Right.

1:11:28

I could also argue this is, I

1:11:30

think, a slippery slope argument. Like, it

1:11:33

seems fallacious on its onset to say,

1:11:35

like, the logical conclusion of XYZ philosophy

1:11:37

is decimation of a population. Because you

1:11:39

can say the inverse that, you know,

1:11:41

the logical conclusion of like a hyperreligious

1:11:44

society is going to like a hyperreligious

1:11:46

way. So to me, I'm like, it seems

1:11:48

like kind of misguided. I don't know if

1:11:50

that was intention, but like, I think it's

1:11:52

framed poorly. Yeah. You could also

1:11:54

make the point that like, is a

1:11:56

declining birth rate or a increasing birth

1:11:58

rate, like positive versus. We don't know

1:12:00

if it declines. Does society actually

1:12:03

get better? There's more resources per

1:12:05

person like does utopia happen because

1:12:07

there's more? Resources per person or is it

1:12:09

an increasing birth rate? Does that actually make the

1:12:11

earth die faster? Like we don't actually know.

1:12:13

I've always wondered that I'm like maybe this

1:12:15

is just the order of things and we're just

1:12:18

like leveling out. Yeah, like we used to

1:12:20

put so much emphasis on have as many

1:12:22

kids as possible and now who like look at

1:12:24

the little resources we all have and everybody's complaining.

1:12:26

So maybe this is just like a bouncing

1:12:28

itself. Yeah, it's a leveling, a natural level,

1:12:30

which even that idea I think comes out of

1:12:32

like agrarian societies and shit. And this is

1:12:34

from someone whose parents have seven kids. Yeah.

1:12:36

But like I'm pretty sure even prior to like

1:12:39

pastoralist and agrarians aside is people were having like

1:12:41

three or four kids. Yeah. Like women were having

1:12:43

like their periods like 18 or 19. Yeah. So

1:12:45

they had it way later? Yeah. They were having

1:12:47

it later. And so like in hunter gathers they

1:12:49

still have them later. And then typically women would

1:12:51

breastfeed the whole time. They were admitting like prolactin

1:12:53

and estrogen so that they weren't that. able to

1:12:55

get pregnant for long periods of time. Oh, so

1:12:58

it would separate the kids. That's an important component

1:13:00

to talk about. When a woman is breastfeeding, it's

1:13:02

much harder for her to get pregnant. So if

1:13:04

you're breastfeeding for two, three, four years, then you

1:13:06

have a five-year gap in between kids. And if

1:13:08

you had four kids, think about that. That's 20 years

1:13:10

of baby making. So if you started 18, you're done

1:13:13

at 38. And you might have three or four

1:13:15

kids. That's assuming every pregnancy went to

1:13:17

turn. Like, that's a really interesting point.

1:13:19

And I talked to an anthropologist that

1:13:21

said, like, it's actually potentially more beneficial

1:13:23

for children to have more individualized time

1:13:25

with the parent. So like having multiple

1:13:27

kids really close together could be detrimental

1:13:29

for the development of kids that giving

1:13:31

them more undisputed attention. for like four

1:13:33

or five years is actually better for

1:13:35

like the survival of the species. I

1:13:37

mean that makes a lot of sense.

1:13:39

And this is in hunter gathers aside

1:13:41

as people are just like eating off

1:13:43

the land and living off the land.

1:13:45

Well 100% I mean like you have

1:13:48

a kid right now you know how

1:13:50

much attention they require like they're walking,

1:13:52

like you have a kid right now

1:13:54

you know how much attention they require

1:13:56

like they're walking, like they're walking, they're

1:13:59

not looking at. looking after two kids that

1:14:01

are under three years old. I mean that that's

1:14:03

the it takes a village shit. Like that's where

1:14:05

you need grandma. Or you need grandpa. You need

1:14:07

somebody else looking after those kids. It takes a

1:14:09

lot of attention. Yeah. So I think about this

1:14:11

question a lot like what is what does it

1:14:13

mean to actually be human and what is best

1:14:15

for humans? And I think people go back and

1:14:17

they go like oh like 2,000 years ago. But

1:14:19

like that's still like a very

1:14:21

recent development in humanity. So like

1:14:23

is it potential we go 10,000

1:14:26

years ago? Like Homo sapiens have

1:14:28

been walking around the way we

1:14:30

are for like what 100,000 years?

1:14:32

Yeah. So like 2,000 years is

1:14:34

just a blip. So like have

1:14:37

humans existed for most of the

1:14:39

time in the way that we

1:14:41

were 10,000 years ago, living, walking

1:14:43

around, having sex, eating a mango?

1:14:45

Yeah. You know what I mean? Wait, explain that.

1:14:48

Like, should we be going back to like, okay,

1:14:50

what are humans really supposed to be doing? Okay.

1:14:52

So like, oh, we should have a bunch of

1:14:54

kids, because that's what people did a thousand years

1:14:56

ago. Well, it's like, well, actually, that is a

1:14:58

blip in the overall scope. For most of human

1:15:00

history, people are having through or four. Yeah, once

1:15:02

we started farming, yeah, then we start going, let's

1:15:05

have seven years. So you have societal explosion, but

1:15:07

also you need people to work the work the

1:15:09

land. So it's like that. It's like your retirement

1:15:11

policy almost here. You have one kid, how are

1:15:13

they going to take care of their family and

1:15:15

you and your wife when you're too old to

1:15:18

do anything? You have seven, you can mitigate that

1:15:20

risk across seven different bodies. That's the, that's the,

1:15:22

like big issue with the declining birth rate

1:15:24

in certain countries. They have aging populations

1:15:27

that no one is there to take.

1:15:29

This is like Japan, right? South Korea

1:15:31

and certain other countries. I mean every

1:15:33

developed country basically. Yeah. I mean every

1:15:35

developed country basically. 50 days a year.

1:15:37

So again, the concern is that there

1:15:39

won't be enough, or that the burden

1:15:42

of the parents and the grandparents will

1:15:44

be on the grandkids and they just

1:15:46

won't have enough resources to protect, provide.

1:15:48

Yeah, and they also won't have enough

1:15:50

time for themselves to benefit society. They're

1:15:52

taking, they're spending all their time taking

1:15:54

care of an older population. They have

1:15:57

to develop a business. They have to

1:15:59

create something. Ah. trying to help out.

1:16:01

Second. Cuomo was just trying to help

1:16:03

out. Well, what was Cuomo doing? To

1:16:05

how he put all the fucking old

1:16:07

people in. Yeah, he's like, yeah, we

1:16:09

can't pay for these. Accelerations, Johnson. He's

1:16:11

trying to run for mayor now. Oh,

1:16:13

yeah. You think he's got it? I

1:16:15

mean, on name alone, he'll get the

1:16:17

push to the mayor. That is the

1:16:19

thing about politics. We've got pretty quick.

1:16:21

Yeah, it's quick to get pretty quick.

1:16:24

And like to get pretty quick. And

1:16:26

like there are certain names, I mean, at

1:16:28

least New York, but definitely in politics

1:16:30

in general, where like people go, oh,

1:16:32

they're familiar with the name. Like you

1:16:34

see this person, you know what you're

1:16:36

going to get, and then you see

1:16:39

some other random human being, and if

1:16:41

he doesn't create enough buzz, if he

1:16:43

doesn't have like super star power, like

1:16:45

Trump had super star power, so he

1:16:47

could kind of muscle his way in.

1:16:49

But if it's Cuomo versus random name

1:16:51

person that used to be the comptroller

1:16:54

of the city, yeah, Cuomo's blowing that

1:16:56

guy out. Is Adam seen still? Of

1:16:58

course, that's the boy, brother week, he's

1:17:00

getting arrested. Nah, I saw him at

1:17:03

Zero Bond, finger and chicks the other

1:17:05

day. So, yeah, shout out as, bro,

1:17:07

that's the boy. No, I've run into

1:17:09

a map, fucking record room and queens.

1:17:12

Is he married? Say what? He's Batman,

1:17:14

son. This is what we need. New

1:17:16

York needs and Mayor Adams. I'm tired

1:17:18

of these stuffy corballs. He likes to.

1:17:21

You know, talk to his constituents. Yeah.

1:17:23

Yeah. Listen, he's acutely aware of what

1:17:25

the women in New York City. I

1:17:27

mean, would you not? If you not married

1:17:30

you to mayor of New York, you're not

1:17:32

going to dip in some strain every once

1:17:34

in a while? Only a hundred thousand from

1:17:36

the street? Like, only? The fuck? You got

1:17:38

a damn. Now if he came back with

1:17:40

a new hairline, I'd be like, list motherfuckers,

1:17:42

compromise. Yeah. This is fun. We want our

1:17:45

presence be married, mayors? Nah, I want you

1:17:47

outside. I think we need Adams on the

1:17:49

pot, bro. Because I don't know if we

1:17:51

can let Cuomo get mayor. I could send

1:17:53

that up. I think we need Adams on

1:17:55

the pot. That's fire. I think we need

1:17:57

Adams on. We need Adams on a real talk.

1:17:59

you ask him what he want to know

1:18:02

he might be a little afraid to come

1:18:04

up here no that motherfucker got no fear

1:18:06

he got I was a police officer energy

1:18:08

yeah because he was but they have a

1:18:11

different confidence yeah you know and no I

1:18:13

don't think he's scared I got that confidence

1:18:15

that they can do whatever and get away

1:18:17

with the confidence he's away with it yeah

1:18:20

we're not talking about it no more crazy

1:18:22

what do you even do I

1:18:24

don't know. Do you know what he

1:18:27

did? I don't know. Don't call

1:18:29

me on it. This is the beauty

1:18:31

of headlines, bro. It really is

1:18:33

the beauty of headlines. It's like, it's

1:18:35

like kickbacks to open some Turkish

1:18:37

like, I think it was construction

1:18:39

for the Turkish embassy or whatever

1:18:42

like that. And it's like

1:18:44

low-key Belgian embassy, bro. A

1:18:46

couple free flight. Two counts

1:18:48

of style. Solicitation of a

1:18:50

contribution of a foreign national

1:18:53

and bribery. Yeah. That's how you

1:18:55

feel about that. Come on, bro.

1:18:57

Like what is, like, how is,

1:18:59

like, how is, like, how is,

1:19:01

politicians not doing that? That's the concern

1:19:03

I imagine is this. If you're

1:19:06

a foreign country, right, and you

1:19:08

see a rising star in

1:19:11

the American political system. If

1:19:13

I'm a foreign country that I want and I want

1:19:15

any influence in American politics at all and it

1:19:17

is advantageous to foreign countries obviously You get in

1:19:19

bed with these guys when they're really young like

1:19:21

before they're even mayor of New York And you

1:19:23

got a little thing on them that you're not

1:19:25

really going to talk about and they're not really

1:19:28

sweating because they got these you know political dreams

1:19:30

and hopefully they get to be president one day

1:19:32

I mean if you're gonna be mayor of New

1:19:34

York There's no way you're not thinking I could

1:19:36

be president I could be president. Oh yeah it's

1:19:38

the next logical. So if you're Turkey, if you're

1:19:40

China, if you're Qatar, if you're anything, right, you

1:19:42

go, all right, let's see if we can just,

1:19:44

you know, talk to that guy. Let's throw

1:19:46

a little money in this campaign, let's do

1:19:49

whatever we can. And then if he does

1:19:51

rise to this political superstardum, he does become

1:19:53

present, then that's a phone call away. And

1:19:55

you're like, listen, we would really appreciate if

1:19:57

you don't make these tariffs too crazy, you

1:19:59

know, we're boys, we gave you that 100

1:20:01

grand. And that's your way of

1:20:03

going, we don't want to make

1:20:05

this a big problem. It's like

1:20:07

getting it on the seat wrap.

1:20:09

I mean, if I'm another country,

1:20:12

that's what I'm doing. I'm looking

1:20:14

at every young political star potentially,

1:20:16

and I'm going, I love what

1:20:18

you're doing, how can I help?

1:20:20

Not even trying to bribe you,

1:20:22

how can I help? And then,

1:20:24

you know, become friends. Wow. So

1:20:27

we can let him say how

1:20:29

a president is dinner. I said,

1:20:31

I don't know, some people say.

1:20:33

Is he still a Russian? Depunct?

1:20:36

I think that's what Sogger said.

1:20:38

We trust the last person that

1:20:40

spoke to. Oh yeah, it's definitely

1:20:43

not Russian. Who's supported by now?

1:20:45

Who's... It's actually... It was it?

1:20:47

This guy eating Carol went on

1:20:50

road with my mustache and

1:20:52

talked so much shit

1:20:55

about how Israel is

1:20:57

influencing like it was

1:20:59

like Epstein's shit. It

1:21:01

feels like there was

1:21:03

no new conspiracies that

1:21:05

were brought up. It

1:21:07

was like the same

1:21:09

conspiracies we've heard for

1:21:12

the last decade. 9-11

1:21:14

we should get an

1:21:16

answer. We know who

1:21:18

did 9-11. You know who

1:21:20

did 9-11. You know, yeah, yeah,

1:21:22

yeah, you know, Dove, you got

1:21:25

it, y'all got to do... I

1:21:27

know you're... He ain't cow doing

1:21:29

some nasty work, y'all got to,

1:21:32

y'all got to do it, it's

1:21:34

a nasty work, y'all. You got

1:21:37

to be careful. Okay? Jews made

1:21:39

the little ended up, end of

1:21:41

a C-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d- He is cooking right

1:21:44

now. So what is he doing?

1:21:46

What is he doing? What is

1:21:48

he actually doing? What do you

1:21:51

mean? Like what is he saying? Like what

1:21:53

is going so viral on Twitter specifically? Because

1:21:55

I just see Twitter and it's like, it's

1:21:57

back to like everything is the Jews fault?

1:22:00

But what specifically is he outing what

1:22:02

is he what connections is I don't

1:22:04

know all the specifics But the thing

1:22:06

that people just keep trying they can't

1:22:08

seem to separate is that he's saying

1:22:10

the Israeli government and everybody Ties that

1:22:12

by anti-Semitism and he's talking about all

1:22:14

Jews and I don't think he's doing

1:22:16

that right, but that's the way it

1:22:19

seems like online. That's the only thing

1:22:21

that I don't like because it's like

1:22:23

he's really clear and just being like

1:22:25

oh it's the Israeli government that's doing

1:22:27

all these things and everybody's like, ah,

1:22:29

anti-Semitism, be saying Jews calls. Maybe because

1:22:31

the rest of the internet's just tying

1:22:33

the two together. Yeah, but he's not

1:22:36

saying that. Sorry. So this is the

1:22:38

tricky thing is like, he's, you should

1:22:40

be able to criticize every single government

1:22:42

on the planet. You should be able

1:22:44

to criticize China, whatever the fuck you

1:22:46

want, you should be able to criticize,

1:22:48

China, whatever the fuck you want, you

1:22:50

should be able to criticize. You should

1:22:53

be able to criticize. Now, it is

1:22:55

tricky, right, because Jews in America and

1:22:57

Jews around the world naturally are very

1:22:59

supportive of Israel. So sometimes that support

1:23:01

gets conflated. You're like, are you supporting

1:23:03

that country because they've allegedly done those

1:23:05

things? Or are you supporting them because

1:23:07

you like a Jewish homeland and you

1:23:10

feel safe there and you've been reading

1:23:12

all the books forever and you just

1:23:14

want that place to exist? So I

1:23:16

think that there is a separation there.

1:23:18

But if you're somebody who hates Jews

1:23:20

and you hear that rhetoric from Ian,

1:23:22

you're going, see this is why I

1:23:24

hate them because of all this shit.

1:23:26

Right? So it is a... But the

1:23:29

thing that I've seen like kind of...

1:23:31

explode the most is this idea of

1:23:33

like foreign influence right which is a

1:23:35

very reasonable discussion to have like if

1:23:37

you feel like other countries are influencing

1:23:39

America we should be able to look

1:23:41

into that influence and be critical of

1:23:43

that influence right now that's not to

1:23:46

say that we shouldn't take foreign investment

1:23:48

give us all your fucking money do

1:23:50

I mean if Saudi Arabia wants to

1:23:52

buy a trillion dollars worth the planes

1:23:54

that don't work Absolutely, please. We love

1:23:56

to sell you planes that don't work.

1:23:58

We're literally selling planes with the technology

1:24:00

that doesn't make them as good as

1:24:03

they can be. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh,

1:24:05

it's like go-carts? We put the governor

1:24:07

on this. goes a hundred mile per

1:24:09

hour. Because in case you act up

1:24:11

we need a 200 mile plan to

1:24:13

take you out. Oh that's fine. I

1:24:15

believe that's you know. We're not selling

1:24:17

them. We're not selling the F-35s. We're

1:24:20

not selling the F-35s. We're not giving

1:24:22

anybody F- but I think you give

1:24:24

them like F-16s you give them the

1:24:26

top of that shit. We're not giving

1:24:28

nobody those F-35s. We have plenty of

1:24:30

people that have F-35s. We don't, other

1:24:32

countries don't have the F-22, I believe.

1:24:34

The F-35, UK has it. I think.

1:24:36

I think. I think 11. I think,

1:24:39

you can't put it first. You can't

1:24:41

put it first. You can't, you can't

1:24:43

put it first. I don't think that.

1:24:45

You can't put it first. I don't

1:24:47

think that. I don't think it. But

1:24:49

I think so here's I think that

1:24:51

the tricky thing right is like it

1:24:53

looks like there's this influence right and

1:24:56

a lot of people in America like

1:24:58

they make this this big concern How

1:25:00

do I even say that because I

1:25:02

don't want to discredit people who care

1:25:04

about what's happening in Gaza and they're

1:25:06

like hey this feels excessive and they

1:25:08

don't want people dying right I also

1:25:10

think there have been plenty of other

1:25:13

times throughout history where like America has

1:25:15

been responsible for the murder of tons

1:25:17

of people million people in Iraq and

1:25:19

like yes there are Americans who were

1:25:21

concerned they're like this is fucked up

1:25:23

we don't like this this is horrible

1:25:25

but there's a little part of Americans

1:25:27

we're like yeah but the gas is

1:25:29

like 250 right so I think there's

1:25:32

a little part of this discussion which

1:25:34

is kind of missing which is like

1:25:36

what are we getting out of this

1:25:38

tragedy we're supporting this tragedy but what

1:25:40

do we get and I think it's

1:25:42

on like Israel to be honest to

1:25:44

explain if we're best friends if we're

1:25:46

you're you're you're our closest ally or

1:25:49

whatever it is like you it's up

1:25:51

to you to explain to Americans if

1:25:53

you want to continue to get that

1:25:55

support why we're so close what is

1:25:57

the information now I hear a lot

1:25:59

of people when I ask they're like

1:26:01

we get um what is it called

1:26:03

intelligence. Okay? So intelligence can essentially mean

1:26:06

like, hey, there's this terror attack that's

1:26:08

going to happen, you guys should do

1:26:10

something about it. Let's operate in best

1:26:12

case scenario, right? And I know there's

1:26:14

already people in there and they're like,

1:26:16

oh, you're fucking, you're just bootlicking the

1:26:18

Jews or whatever the fucking is. I'm

1:26:20

just saying best case scenario. They've given

1:26:23

us information to thwart 20 more 9-11s,

1:26:25

let's say. Because I doubt there's one

1:26:27

planned attack on America. So let's say

1:26:29

they've given us information that stops 20

1:26:31

others. They can't tell America, by the

1:26:33

way, we gave you the information to

1:26:35

stop these attacks because now you're going

1:26:37

to give up those people that are

1:26:39

embedded in those like terror institutions or

1:26:42

even the country's governments that are playing

1:26:44

these attacks. So now you remove your

1:26:46

intelligence. So there is a version where

1:26:48

America is giving them this amount of

1:26:50

money a year and we're getting intelligence

1:26:52

that is valuable to us, but you

1:26:54

can't communicate that to American people. Well,

1:26:56

you need to figure out something else

1:26:59

to communicate. Even if they did communicate,

1:27:01

I feel like people wouldn't believe it.

1:27:03

That's also possible. I imagine they put

1:27:05

out like, you know, a news headline,

1:27:07

the Israel stops terror attack in America.

1:27:09

Yeah. Everyone be like, yeah, right, of

1:27:11

course it did. You know, you're just

1:27:13

saying it because it didn't happen. But

1:27:16

if you are, because here's the reality.

1:27:18

Like, the government is always going to

1:27:20

be a reflection of the people, right?

1:27:22

Right. So like. If there isn't support

1:27:24

for something in America, you will not

1:27:26

get money eventually. Wait. There's waning support

1:27:28

in America for the war in Ukraine.

1:27:30

Right? Americans are kind of suffering. They

1:27:33

feel like they don't have money here.

1:27:35

And then we're like, why are we

1:27:37

sending billions of dollars over this other

1:27:39

country? I don't really know anybody from

1:27:41

there. I don't really understand how it's

1:27:43

an existential threat to us personally. Like,

1:27:45

I don't get it and I can't

1:27:47

afford eggs. So like, if any billions

1:27:49

of dollars is going anywhere, send it

1:27:52

over here first. I think that's the

1:27:54

feeling a lot of Americans have. I

1:27:56

think if the... was absolutely flourishing. We

1:27:58

don't go fuck about USAID. We don't

1:28:00

care about the plays. They're doing the

1:28:02

Philippines or whatever the fuck they want.

1:28:04

But in America, when times are tough,

1:28:06

naturally, and I think it's a very

1:28:09

reasonable response, we start looking at where

1:28:11

the money's going. You know what I

1:28:13

mean? Like if you're not spending a

1:28:15

lot of time with your dad, but

1:28:17

your dad's out here doing all this

1:28:19

other things your dad's doing, you want

1:28:21

to hang out. So I think in

1:28:23

those moments, it's up to those countries

1:28:26

that are getting help to show us

1:28:28

the value that they're bringing to us.

1:28:30

You have to find a way to

1:28:32

communicate that value. Otherwise, Americans start feeling

1:28:34

taken advantage of. Now we might not

1:28:36

be. And you have to leave that

1:28:38

space open. I think people are like...

1:28:40

They're determined that they know exactly what's

1:28:43

going on. There's a little bit of

1:28:45

an addiction to conspiracy in general They're

1:28:47

very exciting and fun. They make people

1:28:49

feel really smart like you know something

1:28:51

nobody else knows That's the quickest way

1:28:53

to feeling smart But I think there

1:28:55

is a burden on any country that

1:28:57

we're giving money to it could be

1:28:59

Ukraine. It could be Israel. It could

1:29:02

be fucking any other country There's a

1:29:04

burden on them to understand what they're

1:29:06

bringing I think partially that was the

1:29:08

mineral deal They're doing the Ukraine I

1:29:10

think it was like, I think it

1:29:12

was like, listen, we need to, you

1:29:14

need to give us a reason why

1:29:16

we should continue giving you weapons. And

1:29:19

that would have maybe pacified the American

1:29:21

people. We'd be like, oh yeah, we

1:29:23

got all their minerals, so honestly we're

1:29:25

getting shit cheap and it's actually beneficial

1:29:27

to us. So I think Israel need

1:29:29

to figure out what that mineral shit

1:29:31

is. Yeah. And you have to do

1:29:33

that for a geopolitical reason. Because you

1:29:36

have to convince the American public it

1:29:38

is worth sending our money that can

1:29:40

make our eggs cheaper or whatever we

1:29:42

believe. It doesn't matter if that's reality,

1:29:44

it's perception. What do we believe to

1:29:46

be true? Yeah. You got to figure

1:29:48

that out because it feels like in

1:29:50

America right now that support is low.

1:29:53

And when the economy is tough, the

1:29:55

ideological wars don't go as far. Like,

1:29:57

can you explain? That is great. Things

1:29:59

are expensive and I'm having things are

1:30:01

expensive and I'm having a hard time.

1:30:03

Democracy, you're like, who cares? Like, that

1:30:05

is a place of privilege where we

1:30:07

could worry about your issues over there.

1:30:09

My house is communist. We're all splitting

1:30:12

one omelet. This is hard. Like, fact,

1:30:14

focus on the communism here, not over

1:30:16

in Vietnam or whatever. Like, let's do

1:30:18

this. 100%. And so a second, the

1:30:20

economy gets tight. Everyone's like, all right,

1:30:22

where's the money going? Yeah. I do

1:30:24

think there's some of the frustration in

1:30:26

Gaza. the Israel government is doing.

1:30:29

Like I'm not subscribe to like,

1:30:31

what's, I don't know, one of your

1:30:33

institutions. Corrects or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:30:35

But I just don't see it. So

1:30:37

it's like, it seems like. all Jewish

1:30:39

people are in support of what's going

1:30:41

on over there because no one's being

1:30:43

out against it. That is and then

1:30:46

yeah that's an interesting that's interesting point

1:30:48

too which is like because even within

1:30:50

Israel it's it's quite divided right so

1:30:52

but that is an interesting thing where

1:30:54

it's like if you feel under attack

1:30:56

your knee-jerk reaction is to support the

1:30:58

side that you believe it defending you're

1:31:00

defending the actions of the government which

1:31:03

a lot of Americans feels like like

1:31:05

okay you did the job and now you're

1:31:07

twisting the like it's wrong. Now it feels like

1:31:09

it's going too far. Yeah, yeah. Now... And

1:31:11

then you're asking Jews to like defend everything

1:31:13

ever. But here's the other thing, here's the

1:31:16

other thing, you can make this. Oh no,

1:31:18

yeah, you could. It could be a slipper

1:31:20

soap and I can understand why they wouldn't

1:31:22

want to be like, I were doing this

1:31:25

bad and then we're like, see? And now

1:31:27

what else are you doing bad? I can

1:31:29

see that. Americans, we did it once we

1:31:32

realized, hey, there's no weapons of mass destruction,

1:31:34

we are here for no reason, this is

1:31:36

wrong, let's stop this. I think we called

1:31:38

ourselves out on that shit. Have you

1:31:41

apologized for that? Yeah, how did we

1:31:43

post it? I feel like I've heard

1:31:45

you say anything, but... I put a

1:31:48

post up. Black squared it and shit

1:31:50

like, it's not an Iraqi people right

1:31:52

now. We were like, it took us,

1:31:54

like, this war is wrong. Like I

1:31:57

think the people were calling, saying the

1:31:59

war was... wrong once we found out

1:32:01

that war on weapons of mass destruction.

1:32:03

Well here's the thing, there's a lot

1:32:06

of people that aren't, there's a lot

1:32:08

of people that aren't, there's a lot

1:32:10

of people that aren't going to say

1:32:12

is like, we can't get caught, we

1:32:15

can't get caught up in right and

1:32:17

wrong. We have to get caught up

1:32:19

in perception. Perception is reality. And this

1:32:21

is important for countries to understand. The

1:32:24