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guy who's about to fight you right now is on the

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purest form of fence and all. Like he's gotta know who

0:34

you are. That's why I pulled up on me. I had

0:36

a great morning and then this guy, I think because he

0:38

saw my car, so he doubled back and just like, Izzy,

0:41

one out. And in New Zealand, that's like, we're doing me

0:43

one on one, let's go. And I started laughing. I was

0:45

thinking like, bro, I fight for millions. I'm not gonna look

0:47

at ourself for free. And he goes, nah, I fight for

0:49

free. I fight for the streets, for my pride. And I

0:51

was thinking, you're stupid. You're stupid. At

0:53

the end, you see me spit at him and he just looks down like, and

0:56

then I realized you're not gonna do shit. If he spat back at

0:58

me, then it's on. But again, I'm glad I had a good

1:00

day. I don't like street fights. I don't like confrontation.

1:02

But if you bring the problem, then I'm gonna solve

1:04

the problem. I realized this because it happened to Anderson,

1:06

it's happened to Jones, it's happened to a lot of

1:08

the greats. The longer you defend the belt, the less

1:11

risk you take. Do you care about the circle fight?

1:13

Yeah, come on, man. Yeah, come on. Come on, man.

1:15

Come on, man. I know me and I know where

1:17

I was during that fight week and all that. That

1:19

was his time. It was his week. But the whole

1:21

fight just felt like a weird dream. I know I'm

1:23

gonna be a great guy, but Alex

1:25

about it before. You can't... What's

1:39

up, everybody? Welcome to Playground. Yo, I'm saying

1:42

this. I don't know if this is based on

1:44

anything, but I think that you might be the

1:46

most recurring guest that we've had. Oh,

1:48

wow. Oh, wow. This is your fourth

1:50

big time? Yeah. You

1:53

got style bender in the middle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We

1:55

need an orb. I'll take that. Yeah, we need to give

1:57

you something very special. Or maybe a blue juke pill. Yeah,

6:00

straight away. I mean, even if he knocks

6:02

on my door, I was like, Israel, Adesanya?

6:04

I'm like, oh no. It's

6:07

in the eyes, you know straight away. But. Yeah.

6:10

I think about the skin color. Yeah. Yeah.

6:14

The eyes, he gets from that. Yeah. I

6:16

think about it. I think about it. But me

6:18

and now I'm waiting. But now you're disciplined, you're

6:20

responsible. Yeah, I am. You have a chef. Yeah.

6:23

He's actually chilling. I met your chef yesterday. Yeah,

6:25

he's the man. He's the man. Good peoples. He's

6:27

actually been a chef for like, what, almost 17

6:29

years. But. But

6:31

have you corrupted him yet? Yeah, oh,

6:33

he corrupted me. Wait a minute. With good,

6:35

delicious food that's great for your body and health. Oh no,

6:37

no, so he's my first friend when I lived in this

6:39

town called Wanganui. I wanna know what type of corruption you

6:42

was just talking about. Yeah. Yeah.

6:44

Yeah. When I moved my guy, thank you.

6:46

You know the chefs are crazy. Yeah. Yeah, no,

6:48

cause I moved to Wanganui as a kid.

6:50

I was a virgin, good boy, no alcohol,

6:52

didn't drink, nothing like that. But they're hanging

6:54

out with him and our group

6:56

of friends. I was put it

6:58

this way. Couple of Diddy parties? No, no, no, hell

7:01

no. What's up with

7:03

the wrinkles? I was the getaway driver

7:05

for them doing like mailbox, you

7:08

know, hitting cars, windows, that kind of stuff.

7:11

Like what, what, 17, 18? And I

7:13

was always living vicariously through them

7:16

as they did some. New Zealand is really progressive.

7:18

That's what I was just thinking. You would choose

7:20

the black guy to drive the car. Yeah, I

7:22

know. And now they wouldn't

7:24

let the black guy near the stairwell because you're

7:26

being pulled over immediately. We promise we didn't rob

7:29

anything. No, you were just driving black too. Also,

7:31

I was like a soccer mom van, so it

7:33

was, you know, could fit a lot of people

7:35

but incognito, you know, like fucking Subaru and anything

7:37

like that. But yeah, he's

7:39

good peoples. I like having people like that

7:42

around me because again, I've talked about this

7:44

now. I got this far

7:46

with just eating the dirty shit

7:48

Uber eats. And then now I actually eat whole

7:50

foods, good meals, like my last flight, I feel

7:52

great. Yeah, we saw you look shredded. I was,

7:55

awesome muscle, the way car was easy. So

7:57

yeah, thanks to him. And now we're gonna just pick

7:59

up where we left. because you want it again, huh?

8:02

Yeah. You want it bad. You had it. I thought

8:04

it was yours easy. Yeah, but that's the game though.

8:06

That's how it happens. You said you made a small

8:08

thing. You like made a small mistake. You never spoke

8:10

on the mistake. What was the, can

8:13

you say that? So the mistake was just

8:15

a lapse in focus because I tripped, bad footwork

8:17

and I tripped. And then that was when he

8:19

was kind of throwing at me and people thought

8:21

like, oh, you heard him. And

8:24

I got up and I was like the ground.

8:26

And then DC was like, he's doing the max

8:28

Holloway. But I'll kind of just be like, nah,

8:30

the ground. Even that moment right there, I

8:32

shouldn't have. Just stay focused on a task at hand. Cause

8:34

you need 30 minutes of focus

8:37

while you're in there. So you can't even just have a

8:40

lapse in judgment for a split second. Cause if not, so

8:42

I can jump on you and capitalize. And I've done that

8:44

to people as well. But this guy, I mean, got done

8:46

to me. So wait, what do you mean? You pointed at

8:48

the ground and that's when he lunged to you? Yeah. Cause

8:50

again, I was just telling him like, it wasn't you. It was the ground.

8:53

I tripped. I tripped. But he's saying even

8:55

explaining himself, who gives a fuck? Yeah, just focus on the fight.

8:57

Yeah. You never see me in

9:00

a fight, complain to the ref. Unless like when Brunson

9:02

really grabbed my shorts for the second time and I

9:04

was like, ref, that's why. But you never see me kind

9:06

of like lose focus. I just focus on a task at hand. But

9:09

yeah, in that moment I lost focus and that was it

9:11

for me at the time. Yeah. Outside

9:13

of that, anything surprising? Nah.

9:16

Cause I, you know, the strength was something that was

9:18

always so much this, you so much that. But I

9:20

felt strong in there again. Shout out Matt. Yeah. So

9:22

I felt really strong. I felt fast.

9:26

If you do the numbers, like my guy Bill Smart

9:28

did the numbers and said that was the most active

9:30

I've ever been in any of my fights in the

9:32

USA. Yeah, it felt like the pace was high. Yeah.

9:35

So I was putting the pace on him. So again, you

9:38

know, took time off, came back, felt

9:40

great. That's the main thing. I felt great when

9:42

I was fighting. So now we're gonna build. We

9:44

did my testing about four weeks ago now, three

9:46

weeks ago. So we've got them numbers

9:48

and we're like, cool. We are where we were four

9:51

weeks out from the fight. So it's

9:53

like, cool, let's build off from that. So we're gonna build

9:55

off. Okay, so what do you want? Like, what is your

9:57

ideal next couple of years? If everything goes the way. I

10:00

actually have no idea. That's the thing. And it's nice to

10:02

know that. And I've even been telling Rogues this. I've

10:05

never felt that when people talk about, say, you know, I

10:08

lost the bill. Matt Hughes was one of the first people

10:10

I heard, who's my chef's name,

10:12

by the way, Matt Hughes. Wow. Yeah. But

10:14

Matt Hughes, the legend UFC icon, was the first one

10:16

I heard talk about when he lost the bill. He

10:18

felt this pressure come off. Like, oh, I'm not the

10:20

champ anymore. But I'd never felt that, because I was

10:23

the champ for so long. And then when I lost

10:25

it in MSG, it was kind of like,

10:28

fuck, let's do it again. And then it wasn't

10:31

until, even when I lost it to Strickland, I still felt like,

10:33

you know, that target on my back, and it still is. But

10:36

after this fight, I was kind of like, well, man,

10:39

like, I wasn't attached to the result. I just wanted

10:41

to show off. I wanted to fight. And I did.

10:44

So now I'm in a spot where it's like, who

10:46

do I fight? When do I

10:48

fight? Because I'm only doing

10:51

main events, five rounders, and title fights. That's

10:53

what I've done for the last how many

10:55

years. But it's kind of nice to just

10:57

not have that, not

11:00

be the focus now, but now just fight, show

11:02

off, make money, but we'll see.

11:04

I'm excited. Where do you get like, where

11:07

do you get the motivation now? Like you've

11:10

beaten everybody. You've

11:12

become the biggest star in the sports. You've

11:15

made all the money. You've taken care of

11:17

it. Imagine your thing. You made it, you

11:19

know. We need more. See,

11:21

that's the thing. Always gets bigger. Always

11:23

gets bigger. Yeah, no matter what. Right?

11:25

You buy one car, you like that

11:27

other car's nice too. Once

11:30

the lifestyle steps up, there's other things you want. But

11:32

you've made enough money where like you're good. Your

11:34

family's good. Like everything is good. And

11:38

you've achieved, I imagine all the dreams you

11:40

had when you were younger within UFC. Yeah.

11:44

Is there this moment where,

11:46

and I'm asking because there's

11:48

like a thing that I kind of relate to in

11:50

my sphere of work, but it's like, is there's a

11:53

moment where you have to decide to make new dreams,

11:56

to get yourself up every day,

11:58

to put in the work. That's

16:00

it. That's it. I got tired of it.

16:02

Exactly. That's what I call suicide doors. You're

16:04

trying to kill one another. He was trying

16:06

to fucking end it. Yes, sir. No, but

16:08

then he pulled up and then tried to

16:11

talk all this rasp to me. And at one point, I

16:13

even tried to diffuse it because I was like, bro, I

16:15

don't know you. What's the craziest thing he said? When

16:19

I said, bro, I fight for millions. I don't fucking

16:21

fight. I'm not gonna knock your ass off for free.

16:23

And he goes, nah, I fight for free. I fight

16:25

for the streets, for my pride. And I was thinking,

16:27

you're fucking stupid. You're stupid. Was

16:31

he a white guy or was he like? Nah, a Māori guy. He was brown, yeah.

16:33

See, that's the problem I had when I first moved to New Zealand. I

16:35

couldn't tell the difference between all of them. Was it because of

16:37

racists? Yeah. So you went to

16:39

China? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hard

16:42

mode. I mentioned I got the... You

16:46

put it on all the stars. It's funny.

16:49

Nah, but then in the end, I just... As when

16:51

I spat at him was when I was kind of like

16:53

hoping, try something. Oh, okay. At the end,

16:55

you see me spit at him and he just looks down like... And

16:57

then I realized, you're not gonna do shit, but

16:59

also, because of our boy, like you remember the

17:01

movie when our boy got knocked out? Yeah. Street

17:04

violence. And I just realized if I drop this

17:06

guy right now... And he dies. They're

17:09

gonna fucking put me through the rain. These are

17:11

weapons, huh? Oh yeah, they're being weapons. So for

17:13

me, I was just like, nah, just... And again,

17:15

we started a charity, Walk Without Fear, to

17:17

help with this kind of senseless street violence. Because

17:19

a lot of these guys, the

17:23

boys that killed my boy, they

17:25

did home detention for I think a year and a half.

17:27

And during that year and a half, we

17:29

all had lockdown for six months in

17:31

that time. So again, we all did it together.

17:33

So what's the... And now they're around free. So

17:36

basically, you're like, we also had home detention. Yeah,

17:38

exactly. So again, we're trying to change the laws

17:40

with that charity. And this video I believe will

17:43

help because it shows what could have happened.

17:45

The discipline of someone like me. Because do

17:47

that to Dan Hooker. Dan is... Like

17:50

Danza is a beast and Dan would probably act differently

17:52

and maybe not knock him out, but just put him

17:54

to sleep, hang him out. But still,

17:57

me speaking... How does the video end? Because it's

17:59

like... You see me just spit at him and when I slammed

18:01

my car door down, I was kind of just like... That's

18:08

when you got pissed? Yeah. When

18:10

I was driving off, he had a shirt off and he was still flexing. And

18:13

again, people, only

18:15

one person, like when I said, can you call the cops?

18:18

One person helped me. Everyone else just

18:20

had their camera off at this moment. Oh wow. They

18:22

see me spit at him, then he looks down and I

18:24

go angry. But then when I went... Now what's happening

18:26

right now? He just didn't do shit. But what are

18:28

you thinking right now? I was like, I spat at

18:30

you on your leg. If

18:32

he spat back at me, then it's on. But again,

18:35

I'm glad I had a good day and

18:37

I don't like street fights.

18:39

I don't like confrontation, but if

18:41

you bring the problem, then I'm gonna solve the problem. Okay,

18:44

real quick. So in this

18:46

moment, you're thinking, all right,

18:49

do I knock this guy out? If I

18:51

knock him out, does he die? Is

18:53

there ever a thought, like the average person

18:55

would go, what if this guy knocks me

18:57

out? Okay. So

19:00

that's not even... He's like, no, no, no. Most

19:02

of us would be thinking, damn, my brother could

19:04

knock down. I just put my plies in the

19:06

car, took my watch off and I was just

19:08

like, look, if he breaches the

19:15

range, because I'm within my rights and he's within

19:17

range, I was just thinking it'll fall. I

19:20

was just like, man, if he hits his head, because

19:22

it's down the hill, it's more gravity, boom, and he's

19:24

gonna bleed out. And I

19:26

probably wouldn't be here right now. I want that

19:28

type of confidence to be worried about killing the

19:30

other person. Yeah, yeah. I'm crazy, right? I was

19:33

thinking of following the charity and him dying. What

19:35

if you just slapped him, got another Dana White

19:37

contract? Yeah. What if you just slapped

19:39

him in the face, someone happened? And you get what?

19:41

You join a different Dana White league? I told him

19:43

I was getting paid millions to fight. If you're

19:46

not getting paid like that to fight. Yeah, that's

19:48

why. Why haven't any UFC guys or

19:50

boxing guys entered that? Paige Van Zant

19:53

did. She's doing her second fight soon, I think.

19:55

Yeah. But she's

19:57

crazy. I'm saying guys that are no

19:59

longer... a

22:00

meme right now. I don't get it. You don't get

22:02

the meme. Maybe I mean the money. Yeah. Show

22:05

me the money. That one. Yeah.

22:08

You know what I'm talking about? Cuber,

22:11

CUBE help you. CUBER gooden jr. No, you're talking

22:13

about something. Okay. We

22:16

all don't get it. So maybe I'm

22:18

right. I'm in the money. Yeah.

22:26

But then the third person. Give me the money. Yeah. So

22:28

I'm like, I didn't laugh. But I'm like, what is it?

22:30

But what is this about?

22:32

Give me the money. You're asking the wrong

22:34

guy. I just made a joke about it.

22:37

But still, I've just seen it all over

22:39

TikTok, all over the reels, seen famous

22:41

people do it on Shade Room and shit.

22:43

I'm just like, I don't get the funny.

22:46

Yeah. So I guess we're, we're over. Mark,

22:48

can you explain it? Okay, Mike. You,

22:51

you tell everyone, okay, we're going to say, give me the

22:53

money and then everyone cheers and then the last person isn't

22:55

in on the joke and they do it. Each person does

22:57

it more and more exaggerated and the fourth person to do

22:59

it or the last person to do it. No

23:01

one cheers and everyone laughs at them. It's kind of funny. Yeah.

23:04

I mean, maybe I had to be there.

23:06

It's like bullying. What

23:11

is this? Is this the one? Mark.

23:14

Give me the money. Give

23:18

me the money. Did

23:21

I do it? Yeah, I guess so. All

23:23

right. Close enough. Yeah, we all, we,

23:25

we pass the trends. The Gen, is it Gen Z?

23:28

Mark's on Thing. I'm

23:33

on Ask Gee. And Gee doesn't know

23:35

shit. Yeah. What was the, okay.

23:37

You have the baby, everything's done. Like what

23:39

was the first time? I'm

23:42

just, I'm in game. I'm in game. So

23:49

you have the baby. Okay. Like, okay. What was

23:51

the first time you picked up your phone and

23:53

looked at Instagram or social media while your kid

23:55

was still in the room? Oh,

23:58

it was like, it was probably like that. next

24:00

day. Yeah. And then some Only Fans girl popped

24:02

up and I was like, yo, I can't, I

24:04

can't watch this with my child. But it's crazy

24:06

how it's like, you gotta get a prepping. It's

24:12

funny because you go through a day where you're like,

24:14

I don't need any of that shit. And then like

24:16

your phone's just sitting over there, the baby's kind of

24:18

sleeping. You're just like, oh, let me look at this.

24:21

That's what I felt when I posted. Like the engagement

24:23

was crazy. I was like, I gotta drop merch or

24:25

something. Like there's a market with this. But yeah, no,

24:27

you think you're like, yeah, I'm just going to be

24:29

a disciplined, good person forever now. You know what I

24:31

mean? Like I'm going to be a great guy. Yeah.

24:33

And then just slowly wears away. Mark's

24:36

wife wrote this beautiful thing. She'd

24:38

be writing journal entries, right? And

24:41

but it was like this beautiful thing. And like,

24:43

but he didn't save it. It was his wife

24:45

who wrote it. So here's this picture of it.

24:48

I'm scrolling the picture. I'm like, oh my God,

24:50

this adorable pictures. And then it comes to like

24:52

a note and I got through like three words

24:54

and I was like, I can't read this shit

24:56

before I go do shows. Like I can, I

24:58

cannot experience this level of homosexuality. I

25:01

would have to call him getting emotional.

25:03

Like, yeah, I'm right. It's beautiful. You

25:05

finally have feelings. It was in the

25:07

description. It was in the description.

25:09

I said she wrote. It was just such a long description.

25:11

I read the description. I couldn't

25:13

see more. And I was like, okay, Mark's emotional.

25:15

I'll see more. That was like a quarter of

25:17

the post. I was like, bro, we're not doing

25:20

this. It's a word limit. It's like a newspaper

25:22

article. I need a thousand words max. That's it.

25:24

But this is good. I should share. This is

25:26

beautiful. Yeah, no, there's emotions online for sure. Also

25:28

like you going from like being addicted to Zen

25:30

for like two weeks and having no emotion at

25:33

all, like being an actual robot to having every

25:35

emotion in the world. That's the way to do

25:37

it. Oh yeah. Yeah. Make yourself a ball of

25:39

motion and then just do you even know what

25:41

my girl said when she was having a baby

25:43

come out of her and all of a sudden

25:45

she saw me crack the can. And

25:50

then you're like, it's for you. She

25:53

goes, are you doing a zen right now? And I was like, yeah,

25:55

I've been on for 24 hours. I'm a Jew. Take up the pace.

25:57

And I don't need to do as many zens. Okay. Yeah,

26:00

I don't have these contractions to keep me

26:02

up. Yeah, exactly. Oh damn bro. You sure

26:04

you don't want kids in nah Well, eventually

26:07

I can't wait. I know I'm gonna be a great

26:09

dad But but you can't

26:11

go looking for this Alex

26:14

about it before and we you know he

26:16

seen like this Laughter

26:34

Nah They call him the magician Laughter

26:38

Or the oven cleaner I heard What uh,

26:40

who said that? That was

26:42

you She said that

26:46

No, I don't know Gosh,

26:48

please So he was

26:50

dating advice, we were talking about it before, and I said

26:52

like These are jokes Yeah, jokes

26:56

Oh, I know I'm

27:01

sure you've been there as well. You've never been there. You're like

27:03

it's you have to not not

27:05

not look Cuz then you attract the wrong

27:07

thing. Mmm just chillin the right thing will

27:09

come to you So me I just focus

27:11

on myself being the best version of myself.

27:13

Yeah, and then eventually I was the best

27:15

virgin of myself Laughter I'll

27:18

say it again You can't

27:20

just focus on yourself for too long cuz Dove's

27:22

been doing that and he's nowhere even close to

27:24

getting that girl He wants me

27:26

married so bad I know he talks about it

27:28

every single time He just, oh introduce me to

27:30

a Jewish girl Laughter Give me the

27:32

money Laughter And

27:36

then it never fucking happens Okay You wanna

27:38

tell him what you said to me now?

27:41

About That, that

27:43

you dated a Jewish girl? No, no, no, no,

27:45

no, I didn't say I dated a Jewish girl I said I His

27:48

name's Israel I said I had

27:51

a Jewish friend that I can hang out with But

27:55

then he said no, you know, I do that No, I'll do that

27:58

But my name's Israel So it's fine That's

28:00

what I said, so it's fine. And also I

28:02

got approval now. Where, where, where, where? So you're

28:05

just knocking down some nice Jewish product. No, no,

28:07

no, no, no, no, no. This is here in

28:09

New York. Ooh!

28:12

Danny, you're in a take one big guy. Away

28:14

he came! Away he came! My own friend, take one

28:16

big guy. Fill those shoes! Show me! Fill those

28:18

shoes! If

28:20

she's fucking Izzy, she doesn't want you. That's

28:22

right! So, I'm sorry to say that. No,

28:24

no, no. Oh my

28:26

God. It's none of the best, the fact that, you

28:29

know, Dub even knows he's a low-key pimp. He's out

28:31

here, he's got... I don't know.

28:33

That's the point. He's like, what do you need? He's

28:35

like, what do you need? What's your type? What's your

28:37

type? I'm like, I'll send you pictures. Oh, he's pimping,

28:39

he's pimping. He's like, what you need? He

28:41

is a fair person. You can try that. You

28:43

can try. You can try. You can

28:45

try a trade. It's more like a match. Yeah,

28:48

you can. I'm a matchmaker. Oh, I see, I

28:50

see. You are a man. I'm a man. I

28:52

thought you were trying to like, hey. Yeah, why

28:54

do you think you could just like, throw women's

28:56

bodies around you? But that's disgusting. They have feelings,

28:59

you know, they want to be spoken to and

29:01

cared about. Yeah. I know, just saying.

29:03

Yeah, but no, Dub is like masterful with Brazilian girls with

29:05

like a 72-life deal. Brazilian, yeah. Oh,

29:08

yeah, yeah, yeah. I respect that.

29:10

God, I... Any Brazilian that

29:12

has that accent because they're actually retarded,

29:14

that's what I'm talking about. That

29:18

was how it was done. Absolutely. That's

29:21

a cup of tea. Exactly. Oh,

29:23

wow. It's fucking cup

29:25

of tea. Don't

29:27

let them tear us apart. I'm

29:30

just saying. You're saying it's good now. They're not

29:32

Brazilian, bro. No, they're not. They might actually, he

29:34

says that. They're these girls, they always come on,

29:36

they're like, fuck. I know you do. And we're

29:38

like, he's like, no, they're from Rio. I'm like,

29:41

no, they're from Rio. They're from Rio. Yeah. Oh,

29:47

Dub, dude. Well, at least

29:49

you're not racist like Miles. Yeah, oh, come

29:51

on. All right. Why are you just straying?

29:54

I'm not even in the. No, I'm just joking, but

29:56

not at all. Listen, Miles went

29:58

home. He had no. He

30:00

goes, I don't know how people live like this. We're

30:02

like, who are you talking about, dude? Wait,

30:05

what happened? What was this? I flew home to

30:07

go see my parents and then the hurricane, Florida.

30:09

And then the hurricane hit us. I was gonna

30:11

say like fucking South Africa or something crazy. Dude,

30:13

I'd be so sick. I was like, international? How

30:15

cool. Why? Because they impressed black people. I just

30:17

want to be not. He can never not say

30:20

the same. It's

30:22

actually a really funny character. Like

30:25

a not racist person, but that just

30:27

accidentally goes from racist person to time.

30:30

Yeah, you would like that. Yeah,

30:32

sorry. Dude, way to bring up fucking South Africa,

30:35

man. Come on, dude. That's for people, man. Yeah,

30:37

that's for people. Are you and him cool? Yeah,

30:40

we're cool. After the fight, we had a nice

30:42

discussion. I thought he was. I thought, yeah. You

30:45

killed a private. It was cool, just like a

30:47

moment. And at the end, he just

30:49

said, if you're ever in South Africa, you know, tap in. I

30:51

was like, yeah, sure. And I said, when we see again, I'll

30:53

try and kill you. And he goes, I'll try and kill you

30:55

too. And we just hugged. And I did this shit. And

30:58

this is why I'm not beating those allegations because I went, hey. Yes,

31:01

yes. Well, he laughed and then just

31:03

like, we just hugged and that was it. I thought

31:05

it was a good moment. It was. It seems like

31:07

the textbook like troll where he will talk all kinds

31:10

of shit before the fight and then after the fight,

31:12

the most humble, nice. That's how most fighters are. There's

31:14

only some who take it to that place and then

31:16

like keep it like that after the fight. But nah,

31:19

we're all on the same journey. And again, he's achieved

31:21

his dream now. No matter what,

31:24

even was the reason when I

31:26

saw was Marab in Georgia when

31:29

they're hailing him and land out and trade.

31:31

So whenever I see that, no matter what,

31:34

it makes me feel aware. Cause I'm like, yo, I

31:37

know that feeling. I've done that too. So

31:39

it's, yeah, you can, if I hate on that,

31:41

what does that say about me? Yeah,

31:44

so I always respect. Sorry, do you find yourself, I

31:46

know before the fight, you're saying like, this is real.

31:49

Do you find yourself having to get to that

31:51

place and like build up to that place? Or

31:53

is it, does it get harder as you get

31:55

more successful to find that extra gear?

31:57

Kind of what we talked about earlier, but to find that,

31:59

you know what? I need to hate this guy. because then

32:01

I'm gonna lock in like I used to lock in. Nah,

32:03

it can, that was real, but

32:06

it doesn't get harder unless

32:08

say, like

32:10

Jeff had, my friend had this

32:13

stat saying like, whenever you fight someone, you don't really have

32:15

any static. You fight different, even if you beat them. But

32:18

whatever, I have beef with someone. I

32:21

annihilate them normally. So yeah,

32:23

as I get older, now I'm thinking about it,

32:25

I'm like, I might have to tap into

32:27

something else just to get that. Or

32:30

not fight from that place. Yeah, that's, you know what

32:32

I mean? It seems like there's a ceiling on that

32:34

kind of like. There's only so much. But not everybody

32:36

can fight from a different place. Like

32:38

you fight from one place your entire life,

32:40

that is your motivation. And

32:42

then you get to, you get

32:44

to a time in your life where like, you

32:47

feel really achieved, like that giant

32:49

hole that you have that you're trying to fill.

32:52

Yeah, but. But it's less big. Is he

32:54

knowing you for the last however long we've

32:56

known each other, five years or something like

32:58

that? Like. Longer even. Your level of confidence

33:01

in yourself, I think people always assumed you

33:03

were the most confident person. And

33:06

even now seeing the way

33:08

that you've handled that, like this

33:10

loss, like to me, that's the demonstration

33:13

of confidence. That's real confidence. Because if you

33:15

lose and then you're completely wiped out, that

33:17

means that your confidence and identity is wrapped

33:20

in being the victor. And we

33:22

will not always be the victor in life. So

33:24

whatever that lady in the Winnebago is telling you.

33:26

Yeah, yes, you're right, Jenna. So

33:28

again, we talked about it as well. Talk about it

33:30

and I use the Avatar Zuko, the

33:33

firebender when he became friends with

33:35

Aang and then he had to find a

33:37

new way to fireman because they didn't have

33:39

that anger anymore. They met the original firebenders,

33:41

the dragons, and they relearn firebending. So for

33:43

me, that's one of the main reasons

33:45

I haven't even been to the jungles yet. Because

33:48

I just know that it's not

33:50

my whole feel, but I

33:53

like having that, you know, I'm a

33:55

fucking show you. I like that,

33:57

you fucking kidding me. I like the chip, the chip is

33:59

great. He always brings up Bernard Hopkins. On

34:02

who? Bernard Hopkins? He always brings up Bernard

34:04

Hopkins. Bernard was a perfect example of that. Like when he

34:06

was the heel, he was unstoppable. And then sometimes

34:09

the heel becomes a face. And

34:11

I think that he was less effective as a face.

34:14

Like when we were all rooting for him, I

34:17

think it was, he just didn't know what

34:19

to do with it. When he was taking the Puerto

34:21

Rican flag in Puerto Rico and ripping and stepping on

34:23

it, he was unstoppable. I mean, Paul Trinidad, like he

34:25

was, I just, yeah,

34:28

it's a peculiar thing that only you guys really understand. I

34:30

mean, we all understand it in our own ways, but where

34:33

we're fighting, because of what we have to do. Even, I

34:35

won't say the name, but someone in

34:37

the game who has done

34:39

what I've done, even achieved

34:41

greater heights, said, yeah, don't

34:44

do it till after fighting. Don't what's

34:46

that? Go to the jungles or like tap into

34:48

those plant medicines till after fighting. Ah,

34:50

because it's gonna, yeah. He felt like it changed

34:53

a little bit. Even like what Deontay Wilder was

34:55

talking about, he went to Peru,

34:57

I think. The ayahuasca. Yeah, and

35:00

then allegedly, people have said now, he hasn't

35:02

found, even he said it after his post-fight.

35:04

Recently he said, yeah, I found inner peace

35:06

or something like that, rah, rah, rah, rah.

35:09

And then people said it's taken away that, because bro,

35:11

he was the guy knocking out everybody, left,

35:14

right, and center, the highest KO ratio in boxing.

35:16

But again, I think it's just finding a

35:19

different place to fight for him, even if you've done that,

35:21

because people have done it and been successful. But

35:23

these levels. Even Bernard Hodgson

35:25

did it. He ended up finding,

35:29

he became champion like 50 or something. Well, I think what

35:31

he did is he became

35:33

the underdog again. Oh, he did?

35:35

When he was fighting as an old man. Oh, okay. Right,

35:38

so while he might've been the face, it was still like

35:40

nobody believes in me, nobody believes I can do it because

35:42

I'm so old and I'm gonna prove you wrong. I hated

35:44

being the favorite at some point, because some people, I'm like,

35:46

why you still have me as the favorite? Even in the

35:48

second I was put in a fight, I was like, I'm

35:51

the favorite still? Yeah. Bro, I

35:54

didn't like it. So I do like,

35:56

it's not the whole feel. Yeah. Because

35:59

again, I do. You tap in with love. The people that

36:02

really show me love, the people that are around me, the messages I

36:04

get. Some of the messages I

36:06

get, man, I'm just like, bro, you

36:08

don't even know me, but you know me. And it

36:10

fills me with joy and it fills me with pride.

36:12

And those are the people I fight for when I

36:14

tap into that. But also, the ones

36:16

that don't believe in me and say all this shit,

36:19

I'm like, I'm gonna fucking show you, because I like

36:21

that. But I don't know how long that's gonna last

36:23

for. So again, finding new spots

36:25

to fight for, and yeah, we'll

36:27

see. Even train for them. I'm gonna try it

36:29

out. We're transferring that

36:32

to something else. I mean, it's on

36:34

some level, probably in addiction, you see

36:36

some people, they quit drinking, then become

36:38

like work out aholics. Find something else.

36:41

But you can't just go, well, a lot of people just

36:43

can't just go cold turkey in life. Like you need to

36:45

fill that, sitting around. That's

36:48

me after fighting. I was saying this to Joe

36:50

as well, after fighting. And

36:52

that's what I say now. Who knows what's gonna happen after fighting?

36:54

But I say, I would need something to

36:56

do every few months that would make

36:58

me feel like I'm about to die. So

37:00

one of the things is like, say I'll train for

37:02

three months or two months and then cool, let's go

37:04

running with the bulls. But I'll train for two months

37:06

on how to run with the bulls. Do

37:09

it with maybe some sheep first. We're gonna heaps of sheep

37:11

in New Zealand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like fucking run with the

37:13

sheep or whatever. And then eventually, because

37:15

that would just get me up, that

37:17

would make me feel like fuck. Joe

37:20

said, dumb ways to die, I agree. But what

37:23

a rush. Yeah, shark diving. I

37:26

would do that. I would do shark diving. I

37:29

never thought I would, because water,

37:31

but you know. What do you

37:34

mean, what do you mean, because water? What about

37:36

the water? I mean, I surf once,

37:39

twice, three times maybe. But I just,

37:42

me and water don't mix. I'm a boyant. If

37:45

you put me in the middle of the ocean right

37:48

now, I probably have like 20 minutes or 30 minutes

37:50

before I'm like, I'm done. Because I can try and

37:52

tread water, but I'm so dense. You're skinny. Don't float.

37:55

I'm so dense. But shark

37:57

diving, scuba tank, inner cage, reinv

37:59

I'll try it just for fun. Yeah.

38:02

Like with a great white, yeah. Skydive?

38:05

We've just got to have. Done it twice. Did it

38:07

once and I would die be the first one, fucking

38:09

amazing, life-changing experience. That was last year and the last

38:11

year. And then I did a random one this year

38:14

just for fun. And the second

38:16

time wasn't as thrilling, but it was

38:18

just cool to see. Yeah, because you're not focused

38:20

on surviving. You're just focused on enjoying it. Oh,

38:23

the first one I was just like, I wasn't

38:25

even scared. So shit like that, Skydive still have

38:27

the McLaren. I don't drive fast though, but I've

38:29

taken to the track a couple of times. Oh

38:31

really? So you just need to feel like you're

38:33

gonna die. At the moment. So again,

38:35

who knows when I have a kid, I might be like,

38:37

I need to live. Yeah, that does

38:39

happen. So again, that might. That really does happen. It's

38:41

just freedom of thought. I'm saying that now, because that's

38:43

how I feel. I feel like I'll need something that's

38:45

gonna make me feel like I'm about to. Because

38:47

you know, I like that sauce. It's like a white boy.

38:49

Yeah. He's like a adrenaline jump for

38:52

no reason. No, but again. He's a Kiwi, bro.

38:54

Yeah, he's a different breed. If you grew

38:56

up out there, trust me, you'd

38:59

be different. Yeah. But that's a fighter thing.

39:01

Yeah. Like fighters cannot let go, man. Because

39:03

what could even come close to it? What

39:05

could come close to it? That's why I

39:07

say when I'm done, I'm done. And I

39:09

know that feeling. I talked to it, even

39:11

with Jason Miller about it as well,

39:13

because we had a little thing in LA, but

39:16

that feeling when you're backstage, you're done

39:18

the last fucking warm up or whatever.

39:21

And then it's, you know, you're

39:24

all going on in five minutes, five minutes. And then,

39:26

you know, two minutes, and

39:28

then the counting down. Okay, it's rope,

39:30

time to go. Cool, you walk out, stand here, wait

39:33

with your mark. And then it's

39:35

like, we're going on in 60 seconds. And

39:37

then waiting there, and then everyone's behind you, your coaches, and

39:39

you turn around, you might give like a little fist bump

39:41

or something. And then you get out there, you get

39:44

through the tunnel, you get the fucking wave,

39:46

you see everything. I wish I could

39:48

actually describe this to people. Maybe I'll do a VR experience

39:50

with it one time. And just say,

39:52

oh, this is an idea for the UFC. Do it.

39:55

Honestly, it's fucking crazy. Cause you walk out,

39:57

you see everything, everything. People are

39:59

yelling. You can see all the people in the rafters.

40:01

Intense focus. You can probably highlight little things because your

40:03

mind is tapping. Yeah, on my Anson Silverfire, I saw

40:06

one of my friends in the stand and I winked

40:08

at him and he goes. All

40:10

right. And again, that's

40:12

just the thing. You can just see everything. You're so focused,

40:14

but yeah, nothing like it. Nothing like

40:17

it. So what is life like when that's not happening?

40:19

I have to let go. And that's why I've seen

40:21

a lot of guys, like what was that movie, The

40:23

Wrestler? No, no, I mean now, like, Oh,

40:26

I'm flying. Or like in between fights. Is,

40:28

are you craving it? Are

40:30

you thinking about like, or can you adjust

40:32

to that kind of normal level? I've learned how

40:35

to. Cause even, you know, shout out to Volkanovski,

40:37

he talked about it as well when, you

40:39

know, he took the fight with Islam. He says like, it's

40:42

hard. Like, don't, yeah. That's why they don't give

40:44

me free time and a lot of money. So

40:46

for me. So

40:48

many fighters have said that. They're like, you've got

40:50

Tommy Morrison. Remember that boxer? They're like, you've got

40:53

to keep him in the gym. Yeah, keep him

40:55

busy. And he ended up getting AIDS. Yeah. On

40:57

the high. Wait a minute. Which gym was he

40:59

inside? No,

41:02

I'm not. He's an actual athlete. Yeah.

41:05

No, but like. He's

41:07

a gym. But it

41:09

is true. Like there must

41:12

be, it just must be an experience. Yeah.

41:14

Like, don't be wrong. Like being on

41:17

stage and I felt certain things that

41:19

are unbelievable, remarkable. I don't

41:21

even think it scratches the surface

41:23

of what it's like to

41:25

be in that arena, knowing you could die. Yeah.

41:29

You felt it, all of you felt it.

41:31

It's the same thing, it's relative. But the

41:33

aspect of danger, danger is

41:35

just that thing. That's the sauce. And that makes

41:37

it like, fuck. Because you're like, I'm

41:39

about to go against this guy. And

41:41

you're not thinking this, but you just know this is

41:43

a possibility that I could get in

41:46

this. I could get sparked.

41:48

But also I could do that to

41:50

this guy. And that's the, that's

41:52

the gambling. I'm a gambling man, but

41:54

I like to calculate my risks. Yeah. Shout

41:57

out to Stake. Yeah, honestly. Stake boys in a

41:59

big. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that's right. All of us.

42:02

Yeah, let's go. We're outside. While we're

42:04

here and we're having, this is like a

42:06

supercharged steak segment because we got Izzy in

42:08

the motherfucking building. And

42:10

you know that John Jones and Aspen are about to

42:13

go at it. I'm steeping. Oh

42:15

my God. Steeping. I mean, that's

42:17

the fight that we all want. I said the fight we

42:19

all want. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So

42:21

yeah, what are we thinking about the steeping

42:24

fight? I think steeping is a legend in

42:26

the game. One of, if not the greatest

42:28

heavyweight ever. Yeah. But John

42:31

Jones is now a heavyweight, the heavyweight champion

42:33

and one of, if not the greatest fighter

42:35

ever. But I just

42:37

want to see what steeping looks like for

42:39

maybe in the coming weeks. So the fights

42:41

next month. Yeah. Yeah, I want to see,

42:43

but John Jones, I think the, what'd you

42:45

call it? Cyril Gans fight. I was like,

42:47

oh, that's going to be hard. Yeah.

42:51

Easy. So I think he might even make this one

42:53

easier. Yeah. I just feel like John is just

42:55

a guy you can't, you can't

42:57

doubt. Cause that one I thought like, Cyril Gans

42:59

new level heavyweight, similar size footwork, can grapple. Nah,

43:01

I was just like, yeah, no, John's that guy.

43:04

He's that guy. So I think he's gonna- Hey

43:06

man, it's bros. We're sitting next to us at

43:08

the sphere. Oh yeah. And I'm glad that you

43:10

guys patched things up. Yeah. Yeah. You

43:13

guys are, there's mutual respect. It was like

43:15

airport or something? No, no, at the bar. And then

43:17

his manager just goes, you know, Izzy's behind you, right?

43:19

And he turns around and goes, yo. And I'm like,

43:21

yo. And we just dapped up. Oh, that's

43:23

great. And that was just like a moment like for

43:25

me as a fan, because I've always been a fan.

43:28

And when we had beef all this, like, well, fuck this guy. But

43:31

then we still always respected each other. So

43:33

that was a cool moment for me. Cause

43:36

you know, you my boy. So

43:38

I'm glad that you guys are cool. Yeah, I agree. He's

43:40

cool as shit. Yeah. Nah,

43:42

he's cool. Nah, he's cool. He's like, you know,

43:45

I'm like, yeah. Like there's like, obviously

43:47

you guys need to be like professional, but like

43:49

when there's no cameras on, like the jokes are

43:51

flying, like- Oh, that kind of stuff. You're supposed

43:53

to play football today. Like, yeah. Oh, I know,

43:55

trust me. We've been in the wild for about

43:57

40 minutes and we talked about everything. You're chopping

43:59

it up. Yeah, yeah. Trust me. So it's hard

44:01

to bet against John in that one.

44:03

I don't yeah, I don't see also he's

44:05

great He's like I said the greatest yet

44:07

fighter we've ever seen. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

44:09

So yeah, I think that's gonna be What

44:12

else what else coming up is interesting? I'm trying

44:15

to think like I'm gonna think he fights

44:17

aspynol Or do you think he does this in retired?

44:19

I who knows he says he he keeps saying he's

44:21

gonna retire I would love to see an aspect that

44:23

that could be a fucking play. It's this chest not

44:25

checkers That I hope so that is

44:27

true. He says I'm not fighting again. And then when

44:29

UFC goes Hey, we really want you to that number

44:31

might go up. Yeah, so he could be working game

44:33

for sure John

44:36

if that does happen, yeah, that's they

44:38

got because aspynol is there you go.

44:40

I think Finds

44:46

away finds away but aspynol

44:49

so far the way he dispatched over Sir

44:52

the Russian guy. Oh my god, and

44:54

he's fast. I met him. That's the thing. He's fast that

44:56

next to him at 300 He

44:58

and his dad cool dudes But

45:01

he's the same height as me if not an inch taller but

45:04

thick Yeah, and I was like fuck you're

45:06

a lot thicker than I would expect and

45:08

um the speed. Yeah, that's the thing that

45:10

I'm like Okay, that's the danger. But again

45:12

grappling. He's a black belt, but

45:15

John is fucking that's different Yeah, yeah,

45:17

but I don't know man They

45:19

got a fight but if they don't have a fight

45:21

we'll never know because we had that with john and

45:23

silver We had that with silver and gsp. So all

45:25

these fights we will never see. Yeah, you know So

45:28

we just have to have them in the ether

45:30

forever and ever and we'll talk about it here

45:32

But if you do you're gonna if you bet

45:34

on these you're gonna bet with steak. Yeah, shout

45:36

out steak, bro They'll be taken care of you.

45:38

Fuck you. Yeah, go go to steak. Go get

45:40

your money up Do we have a sign up

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45:44

up code to get your sign up Bonus go

45:46

talk check out steak. I'm sure is he got

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one as well. You could probably use either but

45:51

use ours Let's

46:00

get back to the show, man. But you

46:02

actually worried me something you said before, because

46:04

you said some of the pressure is a

46:06

bit lifted off of you because you're not

46:09

defending the belt. So you're maybe looking forward

46:11

to trying more things in the ring and

46:13

having fun. But doesn't

46:15

that come with heavy risks, like

46:18

trying? Well, calculated risks. Yeah,

46:20

so I try to find that. You just do

46:22

it. So again, when I fought, what's his name?

46:25

Like, Tararas, when I did that in the fight, or even

46:27

the first Vittori fight, there was this spin move with the

46:29

kick I did. I'd never tried it in the gym, but

46:32

I was like, oh, I saw Malie do this. And

46:35

it landed. And it's now always on my highlights. So

46:38

those kind of things, I just had the confidence to do

46:40

them back then because I just do it. And

46:42

if I'm confident in myself, like my tornado

46:45

kick and kickboxing, I'd never tried it on

46:47

my training mates because it's really dangerous. But

46:49

then I knocked down the heavy weight with it in the

46:52

ring live. First time ever trying it. I've

46:54

tried it on pads, tried it on the bag, but I never tried it on

46:56

a real person in sparring. And I had him against the

46:58

ropes. Boom, hit him. So

47:00

shit like that I want to try and just have

47:03

fun. Because I'm not really, again,

47:05

my legacy is, I said this

47:07

already, if what I've already done

47:10

in this game, a lot of people don't even get to the belt, a lot

47:12

of people don't even get to the UFC. But I've

47:14

done it twice. It's still the only two-time middleweight

47:16

champion. And if what I've already done in this

47:19

game will make me happy, then what will? Exactly.

47:21

What's going to make me happy? It's like, no, I'm

47:23

happy, but I'm not content. I still have a few

47:26

things I want to try, a few moves I want

47:28

to do, a few sequences

47:30

that I just feel. And some I don't even

47:32

know about that. When I see them

47:34

on the highlights, I'd be like, ooh, that was tight. So

47:37

they're yet to come. So I look forward to creating those.

47:40

That's the artist in me. Because I

47:43

just like, again, submission, I know I'm a

47:45

trucker motherfucker. I'm definitely going to get one

47:47

of those. Yeah,

47:49

the tricky thing is like, whenever

47:52

you fight, there's going to be demand and attention.

47:55

There are certain people that their

47:57

career ends not

47:59

because of that. they want to tend. You

48:01

got to break up with fighting before fighting breakups with

48:03

you. And sometimes it breaks up with them

48:06

and that's got to be, think about how brutal that

48:08

is because you're like I still need this. I've seen

48:10

it. I've seen it

48:12

even in my own gym where some people I'm

48:14

just like, bro he should

48:16

stop because he's older and this and then

48:18

you see the fight tree that's like, mmm

48:21

but you can't say anything. Yeah, what is

48:23

the conversation like? That's the coaches so they

48:25

have to have that conversation. And will they

48:27

do it? Oh yeah, you, definitely.

48:30

And how does that go? Like will Eugene like

48:32

sit somebody down and say? I haven't seen it.

48:34

Hasn't happened to me. Yeah, of course not. But

48:36

I think probably most coaches who care about you

48:39

will let you know like, bro I think it's

48:42

time. Like you just, and they'll see it and let

48:44

you know and if you don't want to listen you

48:46

still stubborn then they'll support you

48:48

because you're gonna do it anyway. Yeah. If you're

48:50

gonna do it anyway then they're like okay cool.

48:52

But aren't the coaches incentivized or having the fighters

48:54

fight as long as possible? So then they continue

48:56

getting. That's the coaches if they don't care about

48:58

their fighters. Like these gyms who have fighters that

49:00

just like cattle. It's just a mill. It's a

49:03

factory. Exactly. All managers who have fucking

49:05

300 fighters on their roster it's just you know they

49:07

can't care about all of them. Some of them it's

49:09

just they're getting 10%, 20% here. It

49:11

all adds up and they end up being rich so it's

49:14

about caring about someone and caring about their

49:16

well-being. So yeah you don't want

49:18

to put someone in there you just on the world

49:20

state and that's it. Because then the

49:23

stock of your gym, the stock of your

49:25

fighters goes down. Yeah. Yeah you want to keep it

49:28

up. So I know you're just not

49:30

that kind of guy like he'll, me and him,

49:32

even before that I think I'll know before

49:34

him and probably even at the same time we'll know.

49:36

We'll just know and then it'd be like yeah

49:39

I'll know when it's time. When

49:41

do you want to break up

49:43

with fighting, sorry. I'll break up

49:45

with fighting you know when it

49:48

would even like it's not even it's not

49:50

you can't say we're fighting it's it's not you

49:52

it's me. It is me because fighting is always

49:54

gonna be there but it's me. Like it's five

49:57

the time we'll catch up with

49:59

all of us at some point. Like I said, now I

50:01

have to have breakfast because I realize, OK, that actually helps

50:03

you fuel you before your first training rather than

50:05

just rolling out of bed. And then, cool, let's get to the

50:07

gym. Do the damn

50:09

thing. But yeah, when

50:11

will I? I don't know. But

50:13

I know I said at 20 something, I

50:16

say when I'm 34, I'm done with this game. 35

50:19

now. But I know I still

50:21

I said I'm over the halfway point. Then

50:24

I'm definitely a few years

50:26

away, maybe three years away. But who knows? I

50:28

know I don't want to be fighting at 40. Would you do

50:30

an exhibition? Go to the head, have

50:33

some fun, make some money. Maybe some wrestling,

50:35

maybe. But like after UFC, that's the what

50:37

the fuck else? Like, bro, all this shit

50:39

like go box or go do this. I'm

50:41

like, no, I've been on the top. The

50:43

baddest of the baddest with the baddest of

50:46

the baddest. Like what else compares? Like the

50:48

UFC, you know, they get a lot of

50:50

flack, but still, it's

50:52

the highest combat

50:55

sports league in the game right now. So

50:57

what else compares to that for me? And that was my

50:59

dream to be in the UFC and then be a champion.

51:02

And then so I'm going to go

51:04

box some YouTuber for. I

51:06

mean, fuck, 20 million. But

51:11

I'm saying, look, I'll pray on it. Inshallah,

51:16

I'll pray on it. But we'll see. We'll see. But

51:18

like, I just don't think anything because

51:21

of my my code and

51:23

my morals as well. And like,

51:25

again, I'm not desperate for it.

51:27

So yeah, I'm not desperate for that

51:29

kind of money because, again, shots of my

51:31

pops. He's looked after the family, the family

51:33

seats. So, yeah, I think there's other ways

51:35

to make money. Voice over acting, fucking video.

51:38

The video game world is crazy. Yeah, so

51:40

much more money than Hollywood. You

51:42

know, because people are actually playing video games. Yeah.

51:44

All the people are watching movies that they used

51:46

to. Yeah. Yeah. Like so many new guys. I

51:48

got to go home and this Wukong I'm playing

51:50

and then fucking Warhammer. I'm playing as well right

51:52

now. I don't know if you guys you guys

51:55

on game. No, no nerds. Yeah. Well, yeah, for

51:57

me, those games right now keep me busy

51:59

and I can. I see myself doing motion capture for

52:01

those kind of shit. That'd be sick. Yeah, I'm great

52:03

at motion, I've never done motion capture, but I know

52:05

for a fact, I'd be

52:07

really good at creating certain

52:10

things with motion capture and the possibilities are

52:12

endless. Because I could be whatever. You

52:15

know what I mean? So yeah, that I'd love to get

52:17

into. I think that a lot

52:19

of people like outside of

52:22

fighting can't fathom that anybody

52:24

does it for another reason

52:26

besides money. And

52:29

like the more that you talk

52:31

about it, the less I feel you've ever

52:33

done it for money. Yeah, money is free

52:36

for years. Exactly, so it's like, so the

52:38

idea, like the desire to keep

52:40

fighting is to scratch the itch that is still

52:43

there. Whereas everybody else goes, yeah, he's so fucking

52:45

rich and he's got everything and he's got his

52:47

health, he's got like, why would you even wanna

52:49

do it? And then you're like, well, the same

52:52

reason I did it for free. Because

52:54

it is the thing in life that excites me

52:56

the most and motivates me the most. It's the

52:58

reason I get up in the fucking morning. It's

53:00

like, I imagine when you have a fight sign

53:02

like the three months before, it's like every single

53:04

day has purpose. Every single day

53:06

is meaningful. And yeah,

53:09

I think that's the perspective. You gotta look at

53:11

it. This camp was my best camp

53:13

in the sense that I

53:15

did everything. Because again, for

53:18

the time, you realize the way your body

53:20

operates. So I did the

53:22

massages every week. What'd

53:25

you call it? Ice baths every day. The

53:28

breakfast and nutrition was on. The

53:30

strength and conditioning. And there was not one day

53:32

this camp, because again, other camps, some days I

53:35

wake up, I'm like, fuck my body. And it's

53:37

like, but this last camp, there's not one day

53:39

where I woke up and I was just like,

53:42

this is fucking a drag. And

53:45

it's because I did all the things, all the little things. See

53:48

me at night with the fucking hyper ice boots

53:50

on. You know the ones that inflate? I think

53:52

ballers use it as well. So I was on

53:54

that. And- Doug

53:56

W uses it too. Yeah, he's a baller. But

54:00

yeah, so for me, I'm always trying

54:02

to find ways to, well, how can I make

54:04

this better? How can I make the next camp

54:06

better? How can I make myself better? And again,

54:08

where we've done the testing now, I know where we're

54:11

at. I look forward to the next one. And

54:13

whenever that is, nah. I

54:16

don't know, but best believe you'll

54:19

see the best version of me again. All

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56:13

right guys, we have to take a break for a second to

56:16

share with you the power of

56:18

positive thinking, okay? On

56:21

a podcast a few episodes ago, while

56:23

Bitcoin started to soar and

56:25

crypto looked like it was out of the gutter, we said,

56:27

you know what? We want some money. We

56:30

want to get some money. We shouted

56:32

out an exchange, an OG exchange.

56:35

Exchange has been around what, 13 years? That's

56:38

important. No FTX drama over

56:40

here. Okay? Hopefully.

56:43

Hopefully, we all hope. But if you're still

56:45

around even after the bad times, you might

56:47

be legit. We hope you're legit. Check

56:49

better clear. Point that I'm trying to

56:51

make right here now is we shouted them

56:54

out and all of a sudden

56:56

they're like, let's do some business. Now,

56:59

is this terrifying? Absolutely.

57:02

Okay. I just want to point

57:04

out right now. I just want to say this right now,

57:06

Coffeezilla. We're

57:09

doing our best. Coffeezilla

57:12

is all above

57:14

C level or whatever that term is. That's

57:17

boring. Hey listen, Coffeezilla, you let

57:20

us know if we're doing something

57:22

wrong, put on them suspenders,

57:24

do whatever you need. But we are, what

57:26

is it, above board? They're above board. We're

57:29

above board. Yes. Okay. I

57:31

love everything Coffeezilla. We love

57:33

Coffeezilla. We're Godzilla. Love Asians.

57:35

Oh, zealous. Everything. But especially

57:37

Coffeezilla. Okay. Kraken

57:40

is the exchange that

57:43

we're working with. Okay. Coffee,

57:45

you hit me up. There's anything

57:47

that you see. Okay.

57:51

All right. But Kraken is the one that

57:53

we shouted out and Kraken was like, yo,

57:55

let's do some business. Yeah, they're all flush.

57:57

Cause Bitcoin is at like 93 grand right

57:59

now. So they're... Okay? They

58:01

don't want to talk to the boys. Okay? Do

58:05

a little business. We're down to do business.

58:07

Coffee's a little... Hopefully this is okay. Listen,

58:09

hopefully it's not bank fraud. Hopefully it's not

58:11

bank fraud, okay? I think it seems pretty

58:14

legit. It seems pretty legit. They've been around

58:16

here for 13 years. This is not the same bank for free. Just

58:18

know that, shouldn't they? No, none. Okay?

58:21

What I'm trying to say is, crackin'. God,

58:24

this is scary. Crackin' is where it's at. We're going

58:26

to jail, bro. Listen, we're probably going to jail. We're

58:28

going to jail. We're going to jail.

58:30

We're going to jail. We're going to jail. We're going

58:33

to jail. Anyway, not only is crackin' where it's at,

58:35

okay? That's what you told me in Sweden, too. Yeah,

58:37

yeah, yeah. You shouldn't have violated the law. You shouldn't

58:39

have violated the law. The point that I'm trying to

58:42

make is, crackin' put 10 grand into each one of

58:44

our accounts, and we got to buy our own crypto

58:47

with it, which we are not

58:49

endorsing in any way,

58:51

shape, or form. This is not

58:53

an endorsement. Matter of fact, if

58:55

I was you, I wouldn't buy anything I bought.

58:57

I'm already down, to be honest with you. It

58:59

got lost in my account. I looked at it.

59:01

It was less than what he said was going

59:03

to get us. You hear that, Coffeezilla? Do you

59:05

hear what we're saying right now? We're being defrauded.

59:07

We? Your boy is up. I

59:10

was just like, you know your boy is up. He might

59:12

be inside of training coffee. Go look at him. Go look

59:14

at him. Look at him up.

59:16

My point is ... My name is Akash

59:18

Singh. No. My point is,

59:22

we have all been given that 10 grand. Listen, and

59:24

after how long are we going to do until we?

59:28

After end of the summer. The

59:30

winner gets a full

59:32

investigative piece by Coffeezilla.

59:35

So we are actively trying to lose money

59:37

over here. Listen,

59:40

crack them on the give us out there. Money to lose,

59:42

we going to lose it. Let it be. Okay?

59:45

But the winner gets investigated by Coffeezilla full.

59:48

And again, Coffee, if you sense any foul

59:50

play, we're too stupid to know if we

59:52

play foul. All you got to

59:54

do is hit us up. Word. All you got to do is hit us

59:56

up. You don't even need to hit us up. Just put a video about

59:58

it. You put one suspender over your head. We'll

1:00:02

delete the whole podcast. Okay? We

1:00:04

delete the whole podcast. If one suspender

1:00:06

goes over his shoulder, that strikes enough fear in

1:00:08

our souls that we delete the

1:00:10

whole podcast. Yes. But

1:00:13

Kraken, Kraken is where we're gonna be

1:00:16

doing our crypto. Okay? So let's hope

1:00:18

Bitcoin keeps rising. Let's hope that every annoying crypto dude

1:00:20

out there thinks

1:00:23

they're a genius now that crypto's up. I

1:00:26

liked it when they had a little humility in their system. Oh, I'm

1:00:28

a genius now. The arrogance?

1:00:31

You ain't know? The arrogance? The

1:00:33

arrogance, the arrogance. The comes with...

1:00:35

I became a genius. Some of

1:00:38

my picks, bruh. Go

1:00:41

get them suspenders. Yo, coffee, get them. He bought

1:00:43

the crypto and a cyber truck. My second trunk

1:00:45

got a license. Get them coffee. This

1:00:47

guy's MAGA. Get them coffee. Get a

1:00:49

stitch and move them. Get a MAGA.

1:00:51

Coffee. Sorry. Anyway, Kraken,

1:00:54

listen, I just wanna let you guys know once

1:00:56

again, this is not investment advice. Matter

1:00:59

of fact, it's the opposite. We're

1:01:01

gonna lose our money. Yes, if you wanna lose

1:01:03

money. Then you pay attention to us. Okay?

1:01:06

Crypto trading involves risk of

1:01:09

loss and is offered to

1:01:11

US customers excluding Washington,

1:01:13

New York and Maine. I'm pretty sure that's what those

1:01:16

are. Oh, you know that. Killed that shit, right? Through

1:01:19

Payword Interactive Inc. You heard that disclosure

1:01:21

I just gave right there? That's

1:01:24

really important. Anyway,

1:01:27

if you go right now

1:01:29

to kraken.com/flagrant, or you just

1:01:31

scanned the QR code on the screen and that QR

1:01:33

code better be legit, start

1:01:36

your crypto journey today with

1:01:38

Kraken. It's been around for 13 years and had

1:01:41

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1:01:43

you can trust it. Yeah, you can trust it.

1:01:45

Okay, it's all about trust. It's all about trust.

1:01:47

Yes. And doing everything above board. Yes,

1:01:49

I love being above board. And staying above C level

1:01:52

also. Those things are important. Yes. And

1:01:55

if for whatever reason we were investigated, I'm

1:01:57

so sorry. We can just go back to

1:01:59

this. Time right here. We said we're

1:02:01

horrible. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, but I love that these

1:02:03

crypto companies are making money so they can give

1:02:06

us money Yeah, that's great. Mm-hmm. Are we allowed

1:02:08

to say what we invested in there?

1:02:10

Is that where it gets illegal? US

1:02:13

Treasury you really trying to fuck? No, I'm

1:02:15

like that right there. Yeah. Yeah, I put

1:02:17

in fear. I don't even know we could

1:02:19

do that We

1:02:23

that is But

1:02:26

I think that's gonna keep me out of the investigation

1:02:28

dad. Yeah, that is good. See I'm on your team

1:02:31

All right, just let me know. I'm not worried about

1:02:33

the SEC. There's no game Wait

1:02:36

a minute, that's the only camera in this one See is

1:02:39

how it starts. This is how it starts. We're on tough

1:02:41

times We

1:02:50

are bleeding money bro, this is how it

1:02:52

starts money to be an HC You

1:02:56

plead poverty you plead poverty and

1:02:58

then coffee. Does some investigative research and turns

1:03:00

out you're actually a trillion Gang

1:03:04

is over Yeah

1:03:19

Try to get cute I told you guys I was

1:03:21

like listen, I think we should just stay away from

1:03:23

crypto shit You guys were like, but there's so much

1:03:26

money Somehow

1:03:37

still accurate One

1:03:39

more time Making

1:03:52

I want some money. Oh my lord. Listen, shout out a

1:03:54

food truck. Shout out What

1:04:00

I'm talking about is what I'm trying to say. Legally,

1:04:02

you could legally take your own risk and invest

1:04:05

your money in there to do your crypto stuff,

1:04:07

which is obviously a risk and you could do

1:04:09

illegally. Anything

1:04:12

you guys want to say else? Not

1:04:15

guilty. That's what I'm saying. I

1:04:18

blame Akash. What Akash do? He's hard

1:04:20

to there and he got him. We kept

1:04:22

him out of this one on purpose. Coffeezilla's got

1:04:24

him behind the building right now. Time to check.

1:04:27

Where are they? Show me the money.

1:04:30

All right, man. But for real, we got to get back to the show

1:04:34

while we still have one. And

1:04:37

we appreciate y'all. So go right

1:04:39

now to kraken.com/flagrant or scan that

1:04:42

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and Android devices. Well, the Strickland DDP

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is interesting because you probably want to

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rematch it. Do you care about the

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Strickland fighting? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

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Come on, man. Come on. Come on, man. I

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know me, and I know where I was during that

1:05:54

fight week and all that. And that was his time.

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It was his week. That's the only fight of yours

1:05:59

I haven't watched live. Ah really, you just like. Since

1:06:01

we've known each other. Damn. So that's

1:06:03

my fault. Oh, sorry. That's my bad, bro. I

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forgive you. You were on stage? I don't think

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so. But I remember that. You came

1:06:10

upstairs. It felt weird. It's the only fight. Yeah,

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but it felt weird for me. And then like in

1:06:14

the fight itself, like when he dropped me, I remember

1:06:16

getting up and I'm like, oh, this nigga's hitting

1:06:18

me. Oh shit, he's hitting me. And I looked at

1:06:20

Mark Garter and there's a picture of him. I'm like,

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I'm good. And he's still, he's probably

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like 18 punches deep. Wasn't really hitting me, but it

1:06:28

was like hitting the guard. I'm just like, cool. And

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I start fighting back. But the

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whole fight just felt like a weird dream. Out of

1:06:34

bodies. You know the dreams? Yeah, like when you're trying

1:06:36

to like really, and in a dream trying to hit

1:06:38

the monster, you're like, what the fuck? Noodle arms. It

1:06:41

felt weird. And again, it was just his week. He

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has pressure, his game. He

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does apply good pressure and like consistent

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pressure while closing distance. Wait till I

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fight him again. Like with DDP, I

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walked him back a few times. Because

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I was. I feel like he was just, he was

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effective when he was doing that bum rush thing. It's

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such a weird. What are you thinking as a fighter?

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Literally your entire life at your coaches are going,

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whatever you do, don't run straight and just throw

1:07:08

big looped punches. Put your head down. Not even

1:07:10

looking. But why is it effective you think? I

1:07:12

think just him as a fighter, the style, the

1:07:15

cadence, even his question mark kick, it's so slow.

1:07:17

It's peculiar though, right? By the time you block

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it and come back, now he didn't hit me

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with it. He had strickling with it. But I've

1:07:23

seen him when he did it, he'd question mark

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and catch him. But it's so slow. By

1:07:28

the time you block and calm down, then it hits you. It's

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weird. It's weird. It's like off

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speed. Off speed, yeah. He's off speed. I

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remember when Manny Pacquiao fought Manuel Marquez. One

1:07:37

Manuel Marquez. His trainer after the third fight

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or something was like now that Manny is

1:07:41

a more orthodox fighter and more traditional, I

1:07:43

think we're gonna have an easier time with

1:07:46

him. Because before we never knew what was

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coming, where it was coming from. It was

1:07:50

so unorthodox, you couldn't figure it out. That's

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what I'm saying. The freedom, the freedom to

1:07:54

try whatever. But I

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don't think that's him. I think he's just awkward. That's

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his style. And also, he will. And durability is way

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up. Yeah, yeah. That was the thing. When he's tired,

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he'll still go, because it was a bit in

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the fourth round. I was lighting him up,

1:08:07

and he shot, and I sprawled back

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of his head. My nuts hit him, fall into the

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ground, and I thought I rocked him, maybe. But

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then I get up, and I'm there, and then

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what's his name? The ref's like, get up. He

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didn't get up, gets on his knees, and the ref's like, get up. And

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he finally gets up, and I attack him. And he didn't even care

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about what he, they just, he just wanted to throw. So he threw,

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and you have to address it, because it's

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something coming at you, but he just throws, just to stop being

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your tracks. So he's not

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trying to hit you. He's not doing a aiming fire. He's

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throwing and hoping. So it just stops

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being your tracks, it stops your momentum, and then

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you have to go again, but as well. He's

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a stubborn dude, stubborn dude, but you just have

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to out will him. And again, I can't wait

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till our fight. Guys like Strickland or whoever, because

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now, Pereira, the second fight, I remember thinking, I

1:08:51

told Eugene, I'm gonna stress you out this

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fight, you know that, right? And he's like, what?

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I'm like, I'm gonna strict, because I know in the corner,

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he's gonna be like, oh fuck, that was close. And in

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Miami, that was, oh, oh. Because I'm like, nah, I'm gonna

1:09:01

be right there. And I was pushing him back. When

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he pushes me back, and I'm like, nah, it's a, I

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know how to do it to people. So when

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you go, when you went for Pereira too.

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I was like, yeah, let's go. Like I told you, I'm

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gonna stress you out, because I'm gonna be right there. Because

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you had a lot of confidence going into one, I feel

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like, and I feel like you were. I was beating him.

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Yeah, I mean, 10 seconds, round one is 10 seconds longer.

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It's a first round. Five, three seconds longer. Yeah, yeah. That's

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what I needed. But again, that's

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the life of it, eh? And then it got to the

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point where eventually, I

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lose to him, and I say, all right, let's do it again.

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Then straight away, boom. And then in the

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part two fight, I'm just like, I'm coming at you. And

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even when I walk, watch the walk out now. Wait,

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wait, wait, hold on, hold on, stop, stop, stop. You decided

1:09:43

to come at him. Is that strategy because you

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think he thinks that you're gonna be, got it.

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Okay. So they think, oh, he's just gonna

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move back, and leg kicks, and paw, paw, paw. I'm like, nah,

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watch this. I told you, I'm gonna stress you the fuck out.

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This is like two weeks before the fight, or three weeks before the fight,

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two weeks before I hurt my knee. And then,

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yeah. So even going into that

1:10:01

fight fucked on me. I was just like, I'm

1:10:03

gonna attack him and go forward. So first round,

1:10:05

he, so first round, the first thing that he

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realizes, oh shit, he's not afraid. So

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now his mental in

1:10:11

that fight is gonna be completely flipped. They

1:10:14

expected me to move back. And just kind

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of, oh, counter punch, ah. So for

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me, I'm just like, nah, I'm gonna attack him. Cause sometimes people forget

1:10:21

I can do that. Until you show them,

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they're like, oh shit, he can. So you put pressure on.

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I can, and then eventually, he's got

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me. Pereira, like certain people just

1:10:31

used to taking leg kicks. How does that affect? That's

1:10:34

when I'm able to push Pereira backwards as I go

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southpaw. Cause I can just check the leg

1:10:38

kick. From this stance, I can just turn the knee in.

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And then I was pushing him backwards southpaw. So I'm like,

1:10:42

okay. Wait, is he traditional? He's an Orthodox.

1:10:44

So he's, he likes Orthodox. He can fight both

1:10:46

ways, but not as good as. He prefers other,

1:10:49

and then when he throws that quick little leg

1:10:51

kick. It's Orthodox. And if

1:10:53

you're Orthodox, Orthodox, that's when, so whenever for me. So

1:10:56

you have to throw it to the inside of your calf. That's

1:10:58

easier to check. And then you just leaning into it. Yeah, just

1:11:00

turn the knee in. So for me, when he hurt my leg,

1:11:02

and then I went southpawing, and this is by the K, I

1:11:04

was like, you know what? I'm gonna bring

1:11:06

him in. I just went and give him. So

1:11:09

I went, you see me, I switched back to Orthodox. I was like, he's gonna take the

1:11:11

leg. Does seeing the tear

1:11:13

that Alex is on right now, does that make

1:11:15

the victory feel? I hope he never stops. Because

1:11:18

it just makes your victory feel so much sweeter,

1:11:20

right? David, what'd you say the other day, no

1:11:22

one's ever gone past two rounds, a

1:11:24

round and a half with him. And I never thought about that till

1:11:26

he said it. And

1:11:29

I was like, oh yeah, only Jan, I think, was the only one

1:11:31

maybe. I was just wrestling. Yeah, if

1:11:33

you were standing on the feet, yeah. Again, to

1:11:36

stand on the feet with him. And even he said,

1:11:38

you told me last night. Yeah, I saw it on Instagram.

1:11:40

Hopefully this was a real quote. But he

1:11:42

was talking about, they were asking about another guy that I

1:11:44

guess was in kickboxing with you guys. I don't know if

1:11:47

you had fought him. I haven't seen it yet. I think

1:11:49

Alex had fought him. And they basically asked

1:11:51

him, do you think he'll be successful at UFC? And

1:11:53

he's like, he's not Izzy, he's not me. Like he

1:11:55

can't do it. And

1:11:57

again, I don't know your guys' relationship. And even if

1:11:59

that's a real quote, because it's on fucking Instagram. But

1:12:01

if it is, I think it's a

1:12:03

pretty cool admission of respect. Well,

1:12:05

no, we know. Like me and him know every time to

1:12:08

fight each other, it's not an easy fight. And

1:12:10

now we've had that rivalry. And

1:12:13

again, I've said this summer, people are like, oh, you're scared,

1:12:15

you're scared. I'm like, then why did I fight him straight

1:12:17

away after he knocked me out in the biggest fucking arena

1:12:19

in the world? But it's not that, it's just for me,

1:12:22

the story itself, the

1:12:24

whole story. Like even, what did Dana say? You could

1:12:26

do it 30 for 30 or not. I mean, it's

1:12:28

crazy. And you should. You should. Honestly, like a 30

1:12:30

for 30 ESPN special on

1:12:33

our fucking story from

1:12:36

kickboxing and then him chasing

1:12:38

me and then this. And we should even do an

1:12:40

interview afterwards and just fucking. Just the two of you.

1:12:43

Yeah. Sit down and I mean, just

1:12:45

trauma. Yeah. You know, and then

1:12:47

I'll say whatever I say and then trauma and

1:12:49

then I'll bro it out. It seems

1:12:51

like he has a lot of love for you, which I

1:12:53

like. Yeah, yeah. It's. Or respect.

1:12:56

Respect. There's

1:12:58

something about it. Like if you knock someone out, even me,

1:13:01

like I let it go when he knocked me out. I

1:13:03

never chased him. I'm always fine. Like look,

1:13:05

if the Sean fight never happens again, I'm fine. If you've

1:13:07

never been in that situation, you never understand how to let

1:13:09

go. You have to be willing to let

1:13:11

go. You can't keep chasing these things. So for me, I

1:13:13

don't chase them. They always come

1:13:15

back around. And that's how I know these

1:13:18

moments come back around. But yeah, we've

1:13:20

had that. If I fight them again and I knock

1:13:22

them out, then oh no, it's three, two now. Best

1:13:24

out of seven. Who am I fighting

1:13:26

for? I only have how much more

1:13:28

left in the game. I'm not gonna

1:13:31

try and just entertain people. There's more

1:13:33

fights I'd rather do. Couple more rematches

1:13:35

I'd rather do. Yeah. So

1:13:37

yeah, I don't wanna keep chasing the

1:13:39

same fucking, or beating a dead

1:13:41

horse or whatever. Yeah. Now you

1:13:43

said that you believe he actually does use spells. Look,

1:13:46

we all have something. We

1:13:48

all have something to do. Now we're talking. A little. Now

1:13:50

we're talking. Like I said, before I fought him in Miami,

1:13:52

there was nights I'll just be, just

1:13:54

in the house shadow boxing, pacing up and down, micro

1:13:57

dosed up a little bit or macro dosed. Or.

1:14:00

but I'll be in the shower that I've said that shower

1:14:02

is the greatest place to create it. Shower shrooms. Yes. That's

1:14:05

what you're saying. Trademark. Yeah. Shower

1:14:07

shrooms and just like, there was one

1:14:09

night, Chance is in best

1:14:11

secret and then I just go in

1:14:14

this room like tower on like Chance,

1:14:16

Chance. He's like, huh? What?

1:14:19

Oh shit, I'm like, I'm on. He's like, oh,

1:14:21

oh, okay. Like he knew straight away what

1:14:23

I meant. Cause sometimes if he comes home

1:14:25

and he hears the same track on the

1:14:27

loop and I'm in the

1:14:29

shower, he just knows, ah,

1:14:31

he's in there in that void. He's creating.

1:14:33

So again, I don't know if anyone else

1:14:35

does this, but I just employ people to

1:14:37

like this techniques. But yeah, that's my way

1:14:40

of like, now he has

1:14:42

his ancestors, you know, he has his

1:14:44

people from his tribe. And even

1:14:47

when I felt robbed the first time in

1:14:49

Melbourne, I felt something with him.

1:14:51

I've never really spoken on this, but like everyone

1:14:53

has something. I have my parents fasting and praying.

1:14:56

I have my uncle who was a pastor, prayer

1:14:59

warriors back in Nigeria praying for me. So

1:15:01

yeah, but also we all tap into, cause we're

1:15:03

indigenous people. We know how to tap into the

1:15:05

spirituality of things. So he definitely

1:15:08

has an energy behind him

1:15:10

that just props him

1:15:12

up, gets him going. And it's hard to explain

1:15:14

unless you've been in there with someone. And

1:15:17

if like, if you have, you'll know it's in the

1:15:19

eyes, it's in the energy, it's the spirit. So you

1:15:22

can clown me and say, oh, it's fucking woo

1:15:24

woo, whatever, but again, in the Western world, no

1:15:27

one really fucks with that. It's all about science

1:15:29

and energies and crystals and all that. But you

1:15:31

felt it with Rob? Cause Rob's what, Maori? Maori,

1:15:33

yeah. There was something different. And also I maybe

1:15:35

might think with the death note, I don't know,

1:15:38

but yeah. Also he's the grim reaper apparently. So,

1:15:40

but I felt it with Rob, it was something. Well,

1:15:43

you know, this is things I don't like

1:15:45

to, cause I grew up

1:15:47

in Nigeria, I've seen people get possessed. Yeah.

1:15:50

I've seen David, remember at the house in

1:15:53

Shangisha, when that lady, do you remember?

1:15:58

Oh yeah, now you remember. But then this.

1:16:00

Yeah, I've seen some shit. We've seen what

1:16:02

happened. Now, can I just talk? Hey, let's

1:16:04

talk it. Go. OK, now.

1:16:06

Just, OK. So now, now, now. Just, just,

1:16:08

OK. Mark's locked in over there. OK, so

1:16:10

just try to wait. Short story. Short story.

1:16:13

Short story. Short story. He's witnessed divine creation.

1:16:15

Our other brother, Sam, he lived in Nigeria

1:16:17

longer than us. And then he came to join us

1:16:20

in New Zealand. And he came with

1:16:22

so many stories. Like, one time

1:16:24

after school, one of

1:16:26

the students picked up a rubber band and turned

1:16:28

into a yam. And then everyone

1:16:30

said, oh, they'll turn into a yam. And they cut the

1:16:32

yam open. And then there was blood. And

1:16:34

I was like, you're a cap. And you're lying. You're lying.

1:16:36

And then I went to our dad. And he was

1:16:39

like, is this true? And he's like,

1:16:41

like, these things happen. Like, like,

1:16:43

no cap. And he's not a bullshit. He's not like

1:16:46

a, you know what I mean? He doesn't

1:16:48

need a fucklout. Yeah. I've seen some stuff in boarding school.

1:16:50

It's a great voice. I've seen some voice over there. You

1:16:52

went to hear his laugh. When he laughs and he's fucking

1:16:54

rolling, he's hilarious. It's a little discouraging. We haven't heard that

1:16:57

in an hour and a half. I'm

1:17:00

working over here. That

1:17:02

is true. It's true. I've seen some stuff. And the one

1:17:05

I was talking about in the house, after school, we should

1:17:07

just hear random noises from the

1:17:09

house above us constantly just, blah,

1:17:11

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. She's speaking

1:17:13

in tongues. And then one night, I remember like

1:17:16

maybe around 2 or 3 AM, the

1:17:19

whole house, there was a commotion. And then they took her to

1:17:21

a church or something to go pray. And then I tried to

1:17:23

see it. And my parents were like, just go in your room,

1:17:25

go in your room. And lock the door. And

1:17:27

then I tried to ask the housemates the

1:17:29

next day what happened. But everyone just

1:17:32

kept, ah, whatever, whatever. But I found out later on, it

1:17:34

was she passed

1:17:36

the thing on. It was a housemate from upstairs.

1:17:38

She passed it to the mom. And

1:17:40

the mom passed it to the kids. And then the

1:17:43

dad was the only one who didn't get touched by

1:17:45

it. But then they had to do this whole exorcist

1:17:47

shit. This sounds crazy, like some fucking movie shit. Actually,

1:17:49

it happens. Again,

1:17:52

boarding school, I've seen it as well. It's

1:17:54

real. I don't want to go too much into it because then I just

1:17:56

sound like a fucking crazy person. But yeah,

1:17:58

I already do. But still. We're dumb, we're experienced.

1:18:01

What happened in boarding school? What happened in boarding

1:18:03

school? Allegedly. Okay boarding school, we're

1:18:05

playing tag and then this kid whenever he got tagged

1:18:07

he just kinda switched. And they catch on and start

1:18:09

trying to beat them. And well what the fuck yo,

1:18:12

relax chill. And later

1:18:14

on we couldn't find him for hours. And

1:18:16

at one point, ah. At

1:18:20

one point me and this kid who were looking for him we see in

1:18:22

the night, lightning strike, strikes

1:18:24

again and he's right there running less in slow motion. And

1:18:26

I'll never forget this cause there's moments in your life you

1:18:28

just, you just click. Let's get

1:18:30

out. And they just go. Guy running and get

1:18:32

out. Ah!

1:18:35

And then we ran and then people were like what

1:18:37

the fuck, we were like he's coming, he's coming, he's

1:18:39

coming, but yeah. So

1:18:41

did he come? Ah ha ha

1:18:43

ha. Well I don't know, fuck I didn't say to find

1:18:45

out. Okay wow. Yeah get the

1:18:47

fuck out of there, yeah. And eventually they found

1:18:49

him later on eventually and he was

1:18:51

in the bushes somewhere, this is in open state,

1:18:53

Bell's boarding school. They found him eventually in the

1:18:55

bushes somewhere and yeah I think after the

1:18:57

next day we never saw him at school for a while.

1:19:02

Yo Val's got a story, there was some knives that

1:19:04

flew off the shelf in Pakistan, remember that? Yeah, yeah,

1:19:06

yeah. Wait, what do you mean? Yeah

1:19:09

so I was at my grandma's house whose

1:19:11

house was like super haunted. It

1:19:13

was on a burial site. And

1:19:16

it was me, my cousins,

1:19:18

my aunt who's deaf and

1:19:22

all of a sudden these

1:19:25

like not state knives just

1:19:27

flew across the room and stabbed

1:19:30

my aunt's shirt through

1:19:32

the couch. Damn. And

1:19:34

we're all just like, it was my

1:19:37

aunt and us and we're just like

1:19:39

screaming, screaming for help and nobody was

1:19:41

there and so my aunt had to

1:19:43

like take the knife out and just grab all the

1:19:45

kids and run out of the house. Did it appear

1:19:47

skin or just a shirt? No just a shirt. Damn.

1:19:50

That was your uncle trying to get a dope

1:19:52

fool. Ha ha ha. Just for some more text.

1:19:55

Yeah. Go into a witch doctor if you've got

1:19:57

problems, your husband's cheating on you or

1:19:59

something. It's like part of a way

1:20:01

of life in some parts of Nigeria you go

1:20:04

the little sacrifice that'll kill chicken They'll

1:20:06

give you something they're like a good put it

1:20:08

under you under your doormat and then your husband

1:20:10

will just stop cheating Trust

1:20:14

me, bro. They should take as a fact. What is

1:20:16

it? Yeah Have you ever used

1:20:18

a witch doctor? No, we don't like to we

1:20:20

grew up in a Christian household So we stayed

1:20:22

away from that but you know who called him

1:20:25

Baba Lauer. I think it's not that big to

1:20:27

call them sangoma So everyone or different tribes in

1:20:29

Africa have different names for them But before

1:20:31

Christianity before that these guys were and it's not

1:20:34

because you know, the Western world would say this

1:20:36

is bad This is juju this is nag. But

1:20:38

then it was African

1:20:40

spirituality Before and

1:20:43

Christianity or whatever came through

1:20:45

even his life even yeah

1:20:47

Yeah, why people but still

1:20:50

we um, yeah people tap into it But I just stay

1:20:52

away from it and I do it in

1:20:54

my own way with certain things. So look When

1:20:56

you the spectrum of lights so different like when

1:20:58

even when I'm on shrooms the way I feel the way

1:21:00

I see things The way I perceive the

1:21:02

world. I know there's more there's

1:21:05

way more the way I've seen my cat rest in peace

1:21:07

in the room I used to see her at nighttime. I

1:21:09

mean, what is she chasing? I'm

1:21:12

watching TV. I'll just see her like dah dah dah dah dah and

1:21:14

just And I'm like, what

1:21:16

is she actually chasing because they can see? Far

1:21:18

more than us in the spectrum of light So

1:21:21

the egotistical of us to think like we know as

1:21:23

humans we know what the fucking Rome is like Anyway,

1:21:26

that's my tattoo see those cash. I go and sit on

1:21:28

the hospital bed when someone's dying There's me. Yeah, like they

1:21:30

can smell something and there's like have you heard this mark

1:21:32

always tries to make us like cats Shouldn't

1:21:37

like them brother going on the bed and shit they

1:21:39

might be killing the people there was one I think

1:21:41

was in England and a retirement home Don't quote me

1:21:44

on this But then whenever the cat spends time with

1:21:46

someone who never spends time with anyone and he

1:21:49

about to die And it became a thing and they put

1:21:51

on the news and whatnot. It's on YouTube somewhere Yeah, and

1:21:53

it turns out all those people were allergic to cats He's

1:22:00

on. Which is crazy, right?

1:22:02

My dad jokes now, man. Wait,

1:22:05

Violet, y'all buried? You're

1:22:07

dead? You know what I'm pre-made? No.

1:22:09

That's weird. Y'all wild white.

1:22:12

That shit. Nah, the gangies is haunted, bro. The

1:22:14

gangies is haunted as fuck. You got to be careful with that. Where

1:22:16

are the gangies? That's

1:22:18

the big river in Indoor. That's where we spread

1:22:20

ashes when someone dies. I see, I see. Yeah.

1:22:23

Oh, I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah,

1:22:25

they do. Pour it out for the day. Wow.

1:22:28

I'm not good with grandkids. That's all

1:22:30

I'm saying. It's fucked up with Volison.

1:22:32

There's a war. There's some racism. My

1:22:34

grandmother's ashes in there. Can

1:22:36

you imagine having to look to 9-11 and start

1:22:38

shitting on your ancestors? Around the World Trade Center.

1:22:40

I started going to your computer. Can you hear

1:22:42

her dub? That's good. Good

1:22:46

jokes. All allowed. That was good. Bro, you ever

1:22:48

heard of The Serpent and the Rainbow of this

1:22:50

book? No. This is a book,

1:22:52

this is great, by this guy Wade Davis, all right? Serpent and

1:22:54

the Rainbow. He went to Haiti, I-E-T. He's

1:22:58

a Harvard psychologist. Okay. He

1:23:00

hears a story about this guy. Let's go,

1:23:02

Mark, dude. Let's go. Professor Gagnon.

1:23:04

Someone give me a zen or a cough. Is

1:23:06

that Mark Cook? Mark, do you hear the zen?

1:23:08

Do you hear the zen? I don't. Someone

1:23:11

give me something. You know that one I took back, allegedly? Still haven't

1:23:13

tried it. It's probably expired now, but I saw Rogan even taking them.

1:23:17

I've seen other people take them. Ever

1:23:19

since you told me, if you want to feel

1:23:22

nauseous and disoriented, take a bit. So I was

1:23:24

like, I don't know about that. But I think

1:23:26

maybe I'll try like a small one. I just

1:23:28

want to feel it, because I know tobacco is

1:23:31

a nootropic, right? Yeah. Yeah.

1:23:33

Nickety's a nootropic. Nickety's a nootropic. Yeah, okay, bet. And

1:23:35

it's good to small those. You do too much, then

1:23:37

you're nervous. Yeah, nah, I'm not trying to do that.

1:23:39

Okay, tell us about your gay body. No, it's not

1:23:41

gay. It's not gay. The Serpent and the Rainbow. It

1:23:44

sounds gay, I know that. That's pregnant, never-rein. He's a

1:23:46

Harvard psychologist, right? He goes down

1:23:48

to Haiti because he hears a story

1:23:50

about this guy. Oh, gosh. I got

1:23:53

it. Cler-Clervious-Narcie. All right, Haitian dude. That

1:23:55

was a zombie for 20 years. Well,

1:23:57

yeah, of course. Everybody knows about him.

1:23:59

I'm basically

1:24:03

this guy claims that he

1:24:06

was poisoned by a witch doctor by a book.

1:24:08

I rule in Haiti gets good

1:24:11

cat. Send in a mean to do that. Cat

1:24:13

like watch out. He

1:24:16

finds out that basically

1:24:19

he gets poisoned by which doctor he has

1:24:21

buried the witch doctor exhumes his body takes

1:24:23

him to a different part of Haiti that

1:24:25

makes him work as like a slave on

1:24:27

the Torah like different drugs for like 20

1:24:29

years. Eventually he's able to escape

1:24:31

after his witch doctor guy dies and then he goes

1:24:33

back to his family and he's like, you know,

1:24:35

this is what happened to me. I wasn't

1:24:37

able to like escape. He like put a

1:24:39

spell on me or some shit. And this

1:24:41

psychologist went down there like documented it and was

1:24:44

kind of like, yeah, it's possible that some

1:24:46

of the drugs he basically gave some validity

1:24:48

to it that it's possible that he was

1:24:50

using puffer fish and this

1:24:53

specific thing that would basically put someone to a

1:24:55

coma for a short period of time. And so

1:24:57

he's basically trying to find like scientific validity to

1:24:59

this idea of like, there's this Haitian zombie, which

1:25:01

is like crazy. But they,

1:25:03

I don't know the book, I've never read it,

1:25:05

but it seems like there's some there's criticism both

1:25:07

ways. Why do we want to believe all this

1:25:09

shit? Because it's like, it's

1:25:12

like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's like, it's

1:25:14

like, it's like, why are we still

1:25:16

here? I've seen some shit. That's the

1:25:18

thing. I've seen some shit. I've seen some shit. I'm

1:25:20

not questioning if you see or not. I'm saying, why

1:25:22

do I want to believe like you start the story?

1:25:24

I want it to be true. Same. Maybe

1:25:27

that's it. Maybe

1:25:29

we want to leave the whole in your heart.

1:25:31

When you told me, Jesus Christ, I need to

1:25:34

accept Jesus. I

1:25:36

have to accept Jesus. Do you feel

1:25:38

an empty, huh? No,

1:25:41

that's why you have so

1:25:43

many God's. No,

1:25:47

there's a, but like, I even see like

1:25:49

my dog hanging around my child's, right? I'm

1:25:52

like, well, they have a protective instinct and she

1:25:54

just knows or whatever. Or maybe it's because the

1:25:56

people that give her the food are around the

1:25:58

child. You know what I

1:26:00

mean? But I want to believe this dog sees something

1:26:03

pure in this kid. Yeah. And then my

1:26:05

baby tried to like take a toy my dog was

1:26:07

playing with and I just saw my dog go, Oh,

1:26:10

no. Cut that straight away. And I was like, Oh, that ain't shit. No. These

1:26:13

dogs ain't shit at all. You reprimand them

1:26:15

straight away? Yeah. Yeah, you

1:26:17

have to. Yeah, I just reprimanded by

1:26:20

throwing the thing continuously for it. Yeah.

1:26:22

Okay. They're a warden. I

1:26:25

don't know. You're right. I have to make sure that that

1:26:27

behavior is not tied. Yeah, yeah. Letting know the baby's up

1:26:29

there. Is above them. Yeah. That's a

1:26:31

good point. Because that's how kids get. Yeah. But

1:26:33

why are we so compelled to want to believe

1:26:35

in? One more. Is it the

1:26:37

supernatural? I think there's so much we don't know.

1:26:40

Yeah. Having some explanation for some supernatural phenomenon is

1:26:42

like, okay, there are things that are beyond our

1:26:44

comprehension that are happening out there. Oh, that's interesting.

1:26:46

So it justifies

1:26:48

all the things that we can't explain. Yeah.

1:26:51

So believing in these little things can

1:26:53

justify the greater things that we don't understand.

1:26:55

Yeah. Okay. That's interesting. The inability to explain

1:26:57

things is anxiety inducing. Yes. It's like, oh,

1:26:59

I say something that can jinx something.

1:27:01

But if I knock on wood, I have

1:27:04

some control over my future

1:27:06

destiny. I see. Yeah. Like those types of superstitions. I

1:27:08

love knocking on wood. And I'm surprised you actually have

1:27:10

seen it and you haven't looked into it more. Nah,

1:27:13

I don't want to. I've never f***ed with a Ouija

1:27:15

board, nothing like that. Because I just know as

1:27:18

Nigerians, this is why on these movies, there's always white

1:27:20

kids. Because they're, oh, yeah, let's go talk to the

1:27:22

f***ing children. You don't

1:27:24

see no black kids f*** with that. Because I know

1:27:26

it's real. And then it can

1:27:29

enter you. You know it can become a thing.

1:27:31

So I'm just like, nah, I'm good. So

1:27:33

yeah. Well, you need

1:27:36

to holler at some of the witch doctors for

1:27:38

your opponents in the future. Yeah. Throw some s***

1:27:40

in the locker room. Nah, I'd write to myself.

1:27:42

I'd write to myself after day. Skills, skills. You

1:27:44

gotta get the edge off. I know. Sometimes, yeah.

1:27:46

So that's, bro, even in Nigeria, they do it

1:27:48

with football. They put something at someone's goal post.

1:27:50

It's just trying to like- Do you remember this

1:27:52

in the World Cup? Nah. There

1:27:54

was a whole thing in the World Cup. This was like 2012. Like, Nigeria

1:27:56

was winning games. They got a call. And

1:27:58

there was a- that was on

1:28:01

the goal post or something. Like we got spun

1:28:03

a goal throw. There's always something in that shit.

1:28:05

They will try. No, but nothing's free, bro. Nothing's

1:28:07

free. You can't ask for dark

1:28:09

favors without taking on a debt. Oh, if

1:28:11

they do, come on. You can't ask for

1:28:13

dark favors without taking on a debt. Nothing's

1:28:15

for free. I like that. I know.

1:28:18

I know. I know. I

1:28:20

saw you guys. I saw you guys. I saw you guys. What

1:28:23

movie you got that from? Nah, everything

1:28:25

needs a sacrifice. Everything needs the one

1:28:28

sacrifice. How convenient, huh? How

1:28:30

convenient. Because he died for the same. Yeah, but

1:28:32

shout out Jesus, bro. I don't think Jesus gets

1:28:35

enough credit. Don't

1:28:38

you think he doesn't? None in the

1:28:40

moment, but again, I

1:28:42

claim back the word God. One day?

1:28:45

No, no, I keep saying it now because at

1:28:47

first I felt so triggering. And I'd be like the

1:28:49

universe. But I might not. But God is the one,

1:28:51

no matter what that force is. It's what we all

1:28:54

tap into. Call the universe. This is just a euphemism

1:28:56

for God. Yeah, like even though my boy, Shai Ike,

1:28:59

when we were in Abu Dhabi

1:29:01

recently, I went to the mosque

1:29:03

with him and put the whole thing on. And then I

1:29:05

went to pray at the mosque with him. And he was

1:29:07

really touched. He was like, man, none of

1:29:09

my friends have ever come to the mosque to pray with

1:29:11

me. But I was like, of course I'm gonna tap in.

1:29:13

It's a praise. And I just went there, followed what he

1:29:16

was doing, but I was just meditating. I didn't really know

1:29:18

the Quran or speak the Arabic

1:29:20

or whatever, but it's just my way of tapping in with

1:29:22

cultures no matter what. You still feel the same energy. We're

1:29:24

all still trying to connect to the same oneness. If I

1:29:26

ever go to a Hindi temple, I do the same thing.

1:29:29

We did that. Remember we hit the

1:29:31

track? Yeah, yeah, yeah. In Singapore, yeah.

1:29:33

Where? In Singapore, the Hindi

1:29:35

temple. It's a track. You just run circles.

1:29:38

You walk mad laps. Oh, you just get

1:29:40

you dizzy. And then you walk out of

1:29:42

there like, oh, that was spiritual. I was

1:29:44

like, the Indian 500. This is

1:29:46

a little dizzy. Yeah. Yeah. It's

1:29:49

a little dizzy. Mark is bad. Mark

1:29:52

and I take two weeks off the park every

1:29:54

single week. And have a day. Dat-do-scalor.

1:30:00

No, no, we went and we did it and it was

1:30:02

cool. They were moving, they were moving. Yeah, I

1:30:04

love the mustard too. But do you always, is that

1:30:06

part of the culture? Is it you go around every

1:30:08

single time? Like when you would go to temple as

1:30:11

a kid? Usually there's like a certain, like

1:30:14

a Ganesh statue or whatever, and you'll do the circle around

1:30:16

the Ganesh. Odd number of times, one, three, five, seven, whatever.

1:30:18

Even at your wedding, I know it was the sick wedding,

1:30:20

but there was also doing the circle. Yeah, we did, I

1:30:22

think five. Seven, no? Yeah, seven, maybe. We did five, you

1:30:24

guys had to do two extras or something like that. Oh

1:30:26

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, fair enough. I

1:30:29

can do ceremony seven. I know my shit.

1:30:33

That's all you need to know. And then remember when y'all tried to feed

1:30:35

us mud? Oh yeah. That was

1:30:37

the best. I remember when they tried to

1:30:39

feed us mud, and they thought that

1:30:41

we wouldn't know it was mud, but we ate it, we

1:30:43

did it. It did taste good. It was delicious. Yeah, it

1:30:45

was delicious. I think by that dude's toenail to this day,

1:30:49

specifically his toenail. The guy that was scooping

1:30:51

the scooping. Yeah, I love the toenail. I

1:30:53

don't know how that used to be. The

1:30:55

dude that was scooping, he had a toenail,

1:30:57

and it's nothing against him. We all, some

1:30:59

dove has a toenail, but he had a

1:31:01

toenail specifically, it shoes off and then also

1:31:04

scooping. And I've just never forgotten the toenail. With

1:31:06

the foot? No, he wasn't scooping his foot. He

1:31:09

had a long toenail. It just, you saw it. Oh,

1:31:11

I see. So he grossed you out. He was feeding

1:31:13

you, but he also had a barnacle. And you're like,

1:31:16

uh. I went back for seconds, by

1:31:18

the way. What is that? I had multiple. I

1:31:20

had multiple. Shout out to that, what would you

1:31:22

call a temple? Gooduara. Gooduara. Shout out to that

1:31:24

Gooduara. They had the best, what do you call

1:31:27

it? Prashad. Prashad. They

1:31:29

got the best prashad in Jersey. So

1:31:31

if y'all wanted a fire prashad, you

1:31:35

gotta pull up to that Gooduara. That shit

1:31:37

was, you remember that? Yeah. That

1:31:39

shit hit the hand and I was like, mm. I

1:31:41

said, oh, I ate it. And

1:31:44

then after eating, I didn't even know if we were supposed to. Like,

1:31:47

cause I was so hungry, I was starving. And

1:31:51

I ate that shit and I was like, ooh,

1:31:53

they onto this mud shit. They onto this mud

1:31:55

shit. We're gonna look

1:31:57

at mud different. I didn't feel that way.

1:32:00

I said, it was delicious. And

1:32:02

I said, yo, run that back, toe. You did a lot

1:32:04

better. I said, run that back.

1:32:07

You weren't supposed to eat it, I don't think. I don't. What

1:32:09

the fuck? You turned into a sculpture. I did. You

1:32:12

were supposed to paint it and make something. But

1:32:15

you know, Gandhi used to read the New Testament? I read

1:32:17

that today. Apparently he read the New Testament all the time. Of

1:32:19

course he did. All the boys do. King James version. Probably. Everybody

1:32:22

does. Someone said, why wouldn't you become a Christian? And

1:32:24

he said, if I ever met a true one, then

1:32:26

I would. What? Ooh. Which I

1:32:28

was like, yo, this guy's got his head. It got

1:32:30

me in bars. It got me in bars. I

1:32:33

love your Christ. It's your Christians I have a problem with.

1:32:35

I was like, anybody be saying that. Gandhi

1:32:37

says of course. Same. Yeah, no, but that's

1:32:39

you. You, who they talking

1:32:42

about? Me? Yeah. Who they talking

1:32:44

about? I'm modern Orthodox. What? Gandhi

1:32:47

making me go back to my life. Is he fighting

1:32:49

me? I'm doing it. I made a new one. No,

1:32:51

no, no. You're right. But listen, we have to aspire

1:32:53

to be the only perfect one of Jesus. Go meet

1:32:55

him then. Yeah. Pull up. He probably did already. Would

1:32:58

you grow up Andrew as Christian? Nah,

1:33:00

we weren't really just my parents. We're still

1:33:02

not to be honest. Yo, so what? So

1:33:05

funny. So it's

1:33:08

so funny. Like every bit like now that everybody

1:33:10

hates Jews on the internet, they hate me for

1:33:12

being Jewish before that. But you're Jewish. I know,

1:33:14

but they think I am the name. But like,

1:33:16

like, it's really a sign of success if you

1:33:18

think about it. Yeah. Well, that is also. Yeah.

1:33:20

I was going to say like people just hate

1:33:22

you and then attach whatever. This is what it's

1:33:24

like. This is a quick. The best example I

1:33:27

can have for is like whoever cuts you over,

1:33:29

cuts you over, cuts you off in like a

1:33:31

car. Yeah. It's just the first thing that you

1:33:33

think you know about them. Yeah. You attach to

1:33:35

your anger. And they're like, oh, if it's a

1:33:37

woman, you bitch can't fucking drive, whatever. And so

1:33:39

they just think that I'm Jewish. Yeah. And I

1:33:41

just be letting them think. They don't even care

1:33:43

to check. They're just like, yeah, it must be.

1:33:45

And just on you. Yeah. Yeah. But

1:33:48

you're not throwing them off the trail though. You're

1:33:50

right, dude. Yeah. Just kind of letting it. I

1:33:53

can't let them think, bro. And

1:33:55

then when they see me in heaven, they're like, what are you doing? Someone's

1:33:59

got some forgiveness. Bye-bye. Yeah, you thought.

1:34:01

Someone's got some forgive. Why'd your

1:34:03

mom name you Israel? Was that a... No, so,

1:34:05

actually, I was gonna mention this

1:34:07

while you were talking about naming your baby. So

1:34:10

in Nigerian or Yoduba culture, when you have a

1:34:12

baby, you meet the

1:34:14

baby for about a week first, so you're in the house

1:34:16

with the baby for about a week, get to know the

1:34:18

baby a bit, and then... The Indians do that, but that's

1:34:20

something. Yeah. That's something. So

1:34:22

then you have the naming ceremony, right? Yeah, naming ceremony. I

1:34:24

went to one. Oh, no way. You went

1:34:26

to one. Yeah. So we

1:34:29

don't do baby showers. We still have

1:34:31

naming ceremonies. And then, like,

1:34:33

say, people from my mom's side and my dad's side,

1:34:35

important people, like my mom and dad's parents gave me

1:34:37

a different name. My dad's parents gave

1:34:39

me a different name. My mom's big sister

1:34:41

or favorite sister or something. So Israel was the

1:34:44

name from the pastor or from God that was

1:34:46

ordained by me. So then Mobolaji was the second

1:34:48

name that my parents, they gave me that name.

1:34:51

Mobolaji. Mobolaji. Mobolaji.

1:34:53

That's fire. Yeah, so it means born

1:34:55

with wealth, born with riches. So each

1:34:57

of my names have meaning. Mobolaji. That's

1:34:59

what Israel means, actually. It's like the people of God.

1:35:02

Mobolaji. That's fire. It's Israel. Mobolaji,

1:35:04

Timitayo, Oduan, Yoluafemi, Ola B, Adesonya. So that's

1:35:06

all my names. But then again, as a

1:35:08

pastor, it's doing all the religious leaders doing

1:35:10

it. What

1:35:19

poor girl got it when you say my name? She's

1:35:23

my name. I'm

1:35:26

Mobolaji. Mobolaji. Mobolaji.

1:35:28

Mobolaji. I'm Mobolaji. As

1:35:35

a religious leader is doing it, and then they have

1:35:38

sugar, salt, water, honey, and then

1:35:41

we'll dip the finger in the water and say,

1:35:43

this is the essence of life, Mio,

1:35:45

and have a proverb about it. And

1:35:47

then, nah, segonya. I don't know. Like

1:35:50

some type of thing like that. But then, yeah,

1:35:52

I think it's beautiful. I think it's a cool thing

1:35:54

to do. They have the throwing of money too. That's

1:35:57

normal. We went to church. Man,

1:36:00

this is why I love street that's why I love street.

1:36:03

That's why I'm sorry. People making it rain. Jesus

1:36:06

is there in his underwear. Yeah. I

1:36:08

don't know what this respect is. Nah, man. We're

1:36:11

back in Nigeria at church and then the offerings, we

1:36:13

did a tithing and whatnot. But then we went

1:36:16

back from my dad being ordained as a minister in

1:36:18

this church. And then, yeah, to

1:36:20

celebrate, we just, and that's more

1:36:22

money for Jesus. Yeah. You know, so, and it just

1:36:24

looks cool. Cause you know, Naira and dollars don't compare.

1:36:26

So when you take a $500 over there, you

1:36:30

let it rest. Yeah. Let's get the stack.

1:36:32

I understand. And it's cool, man. Even in

1:36:35

the clubs, we're at the club there and

1:36:38

the vibe was so cool, man. Saxophone is

1:36:40

playing as they're playing real like, you

1:36:42

know, hip hop, R&B music in the club and the

1:36:44

drummers. And then you're just there like this, this, this.

1:36:46

And then, man, I just, I

1:36:48

like that about our culture. We're not scared to

1:36:51

flex. Like Nigerians in Africa with the biggest flexors.

1:36:53

Yeah. We taught all

1:36:55

Africans or everyone else how to flex. You

1:36:57

know, washing your hands with champagne. We

1:37:00

started that. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:37:03

didn't even put it. I didn't even hurt that one. I didn't

1:37:05

even say washing your hands. I was like, all right. We

1:37:08

didn't say for a minute. We've got flex. You

1:37:11

guys seen that one? When did the African dudes flex

1:37:13

in the water? Yeah. You seen that

1:37:15

one, right? Oh yeah, when did we ask them to be on water?

1:37:18

Like, yeah, what's up, bitch? Yeah. All right,

1:37:20

about those ones. Number three, the name Israel means

1:37:22

like, it was getting Jacob. Shut up. Shut up.

1:37:24

Shut up. I wanna hear it. Don't

1:37:26

tell me. I wanna hear it. I'm

1:37:29

joking. Jacob was named Israel. It's

1:37:31

one who struggles with God. So

1:37:33

it's like that entangled

1:37:35

with an angel or something. Jacob

1:37:37

wrestled God. Restled God, came out

1:37:40

strong. And that was the name

1:37:42

you ever told him. His was God. Which is crazy.

1:37:44

It's like Eric and connection between the divine and the

1:37:46

human and then he came out strong. Don't mess with

1:37:48

God. I forgot about that Bible story. When you said

1:37:50

it now, it's like, oh. Us Christians wrestle with God

1:37:53

every single day. Oh, no. I know. There's

1:37:55

no more wrestling to do. I'm too rich.

1:37:58

Yeah. Bro, the funniest juice. that

1:38:00

y'all got in the Torah? I like when they

1:38:02

pointed him in the center. That was fire, dude.

1:38:05

Let him know! Let him know! The

1:38:07

funniest juice store I've seen. Yeah, let

1:38:09

him know who the boys are. Give

1:38:11

me garlic. No, the funniest

1:38:14

juice store is when Abraham, God's

1:38:16

about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. And

1:38:18

then he tells Abraham, y'all, I'm gonna destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.

1:38:20

And then they tried to make a deal. Exactly,

1:38:23

bro. Abraham's nephew was living

1:38:25

in Sodom, and they were like, let me

1:38:27

buy a fat land. 45 gave you all

1:38:29

the girls in town. No, no, better. What

1:38:31

if I gave you my daughters? God goes,

1:38:33

if there's 50 righteous people, I

1:38:36

won't destroy it. And Abraham's like, all right, bet.

1:38:38

And he's like, oh, fuck, there's not 50. So then he goes, what

1:38:40

about 45? You won't destroy it. And

1:38:42

he's like, all right, I won't. And he gets

1:38:44

them down to 10. Yup. And literally,

1:38:46

they're good. They're good. They're good. They

1:38:49

are good. That's the wrestling. That's

1:38:51

how you do it. They're really Jewish wrestling.

1:38:53

It's called the go-shits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm

1:38:55

a father. I'm a father too. On

1:38:58

them, on them, on them. We

1:39:00

have T-shirts, compagens, so we're there. You

1:39:02

merch. The spar

1:39:05

mitzvah. Okay, so the gefilte of

1:39:07

fist. I

1:39:09

was thinking, I was thinking. I

1:39:11

don't know what that is. It's

1:39:14

like some fish that they eat. Oh, real

1:39:17

good. Yeah, the fish. But gefilte of fist

1:39:19

is what you said, right? Yeah, yeah. That's

1:39:22

what it smells like afterwards. Are

1:39:25

there any Jewish UFC fighters? There's a couple, right? Must be.

1:39:28

I can't think of any right now. But back in

1:39:30

the day, a lot of boxers were Jewish. Back

1:39:33

in the day, years ago. That kind of thing. UFC

1:39:35

fighters. They're popular like, you're real

1:39:37

fighters. They do well in

1:39:39

the Olympics. Yes, true. I have a question.

1:39:41

Yes. Izzy,

1:39:43

I know you're a big fan of anime and the

1:39:45

video games and all that. When you

1:39:47

were a kid, I don't know if you had the same thing. When

1:39:49

I was a kid, I watched Dragon Ball Z. And

1:39:51

I would just imagine I'm whatever it was at

1:39:53

the time. Yeah. You

1:39:55

sort of got to grow up and be them. You got to

1:39:58

be Goku or Gohan or Trunks or whatever. Whatever

1:40:00

your guy was, who

1:40:03

was your guy when you were a kid? And also, if you

1:40:05

were in that world now, if you

1:40:08

were in their universe, who'd you

1:40:10

wanna fight the most? That's a good one.

1:40:12

Okay, so. That was a good question, Miles. Yeah, I didn't know

1:40:14

where you were going. I was ready for it to start. I

1:40:16

know. Yes, because you were sworn it was

1:40:18

a good fucking question. You were trying to go long time to

1:40:20

get there, but it was not that good. I'm not saying that

1:40:22

was worth it. That was good, Miles. Thank you. So for me,

1:40:25

whenever I do fights now, like example,

1:40:27

the Anzalcilla fight, had

1:40:30

rock Lee in my mind. So when I was

1:40:32

getting introduced, I took the weights off, bam. Rottweideker,

1:40:36

the death note. Depends,

1:40:39

I always have a character I like to embody or

1:40:41

a moment. Even when I fought Pereira the second time,

1:40:43

I was jet Lee and unleashed. Like it doesn't have

1:40:45

to be anime, but the character I relate to. As

1:40:49

a kid, Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles,

1:40:51

action man. There's a lot. Like

1:40:53

we used to just pretend to fight in the

1:40:55

fields as a kid. If

1:40:58

I would go back now, Power

1:41:01

Rangers was like one of the top at

1:41:03

the time. Which one? Yeah, which Ranger? Come

1:41:05

on, Black Ranger. He's the android. He's the

1:41:07

android. He's the android. But the Black Ranger,

1:41:10

because it was relatable, but the Red Ranger,

1:41:12

he was cool too. But

1:41:15

if I was gonna, let me

1:41:17

see, damn. If the boy would kill somebody

1:41:19

with a sword. Oh, for real? Yeah, the

1:41:22

green. Or the yellow.

1:41:24

Was the yellow Asian? The yellow was Asian.

1:41:26

That's not a wild one. Yeah,

1:41:28

Black was Black, yellow was Asian. The white was

1:41:30

white. That's my elementary school. The white was the

1:41:33

coolest character. He's an MMA fighter now, I think.

1:41:35

The White Ranger. He wasn't. Is

1:41:38

that Tommy? He wasn't a MMA fighter. Tommy's mean.

1:41:40

And then, the same guy. Zach was Black and

1:41:42

White now. Yeah. But there was the

1:41:44

Green Ranger, I think killed someone with a sword.

1:41:46

Damn. That's on bar. That's like

1:41:48

what you're supposed to do. Yeah, that's method. Yeah,

1:41:50

yeah. Method acting. Man.

1:41:53

Oh wow, yeah. He went. Yeah, Power Rangers

1:41:55

star missed a killing roommate with a sword.

1:41:58

Oh, I missed a sword. Oh, shit. Shit.

1:42:00

Wow. That's crazy. He or she?

1:42:03

He had a roommate. That's sad. That's

1:42:05

the saddest part of the whole thing. You're

1:42:08

not a fucking power ranger. You're not a

1:42:10

roommate, dude. He's in a flex three bedroom.

1:42:12

Crazy power ranger stories. The

1:42:14

first cast of power rangers were really popular.

1:42:17

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1:42:19

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1:42:21

They just fired all of them and brought new kids in.

1:42:23

Wow. And really gave a fuck. Yeah. Thing

1:42:25

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get back to the show. Yo, Mark and Joey had

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a great comedy show. They put on their comedy show

1:46:17

at Mary Lou's. Oh yeah. Thank you for doing it,

1:46:19

by the way. Of course, of course. It was very

1:46:21

fun. And it's this spot

1:46:24

that is on, was it St. Mark's between

1:46:26

second and first? Yep. What

1:46:28

if you guys are gonna do it? Right now, once a

1:46:30

month? Yeah. And then hopefully more. I

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mean, it happens. I think it's a great, it's a great, it

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reminded me a little bit, there was this spot, cabin, do you

1:46:37

remind me of cabin? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, the place is

1:46:39

much cooler than cabin, but the vibe of cabin was there was

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like a bar area where people could hang out and chill, and

1:46:43

then there was like a room for the show. And

1:46:46

so I think it could build into something like that.

1:46:48

So if you're in the city, man, go check out

1:46:50

the show. I thank you for saying that. Yeah, yeah,

1:46:52

yeah, it was fun. What was the sets tonight? I

1:46:56

don't know, I don't know if I was

1:46:58

gonna, but then last night

1:47:00

was fun. You guys had fun? Yeah, it was

1:47:02

good. Just the host was funny. Some

1:47:05

of the guys that came up and girls, yeah, it was a good

1:47:07

show. I like the vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like you thought the

1:47:09

show was all right last night. Yeah, I mean, come on, it could have

1:47:11

been, if it was you, yeah. I wanted

1:47:13

to stand up. I know, I know, I know, I

1:47:15

know, I know, I know, I know. Baby, bro. I

1:47:17

understand. That baby's up at six every morning, no matter

1:47:19

what. I don't care about my show. But

1:47:22

yeah, I wanted you to, I want you to come out,

1:47:24

how's Austin, bro? I saw you living it up and on.

1:47:26

Bro, so for me. Did you kill Tony? No, I

1:47:28

don't see. I thought you were gonna do it, man. No,

1:47:30

because I filmed on Mondays, but I just wanted to be

1:47:32

at the comedy mothership and just see, because again, and

1:47:35

I said this for me, I was a fan of

1:47:37

these guys and even us, like

1:47:40

we're friends now, but meeting these guys for the

1:47:42

first time, like Hans Kim, Ari and them. You

1:47:44

probably watched them so much. Yeah, I'm just like.

1:47:46

It's a cool moment to see them. This was

1:47:48

cool. And again, I know for them, they feel

1:47:50

the same way, but I'm a fan. Trust me,

1:47:52

they're way more excited. Yeah, well, I'm excited. They're

1:47:55

way more excited. I kept on telling Tony how I was like,

1:47:57

I'm so proud of you seeing this apartment. I was like, man,

1:47:59

this is. I turned probably like seven times.

1:48:02

I like the way he just takes pride in himself, just

1:48:04

walking around and showing it and it's like, yeah. I

1:48:07

did this shit. Because he's so little,

1:48:09

but he's such a boss. He's just like.

1:48:12

I mean, it's amazing what they've built

1:48:14

that show to be, like Kill Tony.

1:48:17

It's so good. And they built it, man. And he's thoughtful

1:48:19

about every aspect of it. They got it out the mud.

1:48:21

Because it was a- They got it out the mud. The

1:48:23

one at MSG, I told him at the end, I didn't

1:48:25

like the fact that they rushed the second show at the

1:48:28

end. And I was like, what the fuck? That was my

1:48:30

complaint. Yo, Dove can speak on this.

1:48:32

Dove can speak on this. But he said it

1:48:34

was because Madison Square Garden had a fine for

1:48:36

100K if they went overtime. It might even be

1:48:38

more. True. Like, you gotta

1:48:41

get out that venue, bro. Yeah, like next- You gotta

1:48:43

get out that venue. Yeah, because they were just like,

1:48:45

the next people didn't even have the buckets. They were

1:48:47

just like, cool, boom. This guy comes up, like all

1:48:49

the comedians, they had it said, they were like, 30

1:48:52

seconds sets, quiet, cool, thank you. We gotta keep moving. And

1:48:55

I was just like, hmm. Nah, it's-

1:48:57

That's just me as a Karen. Because you

1:48:59

know what it probably is? There was probably

1:49:01

an event the next day and they started

1:49:03

loading in that night before. Isn't that crazy?

1:49:05

Because to you, you're selling at MSG, but

1:49:07

to the venue, they're like, that's Tuesday. Yeah,

1:49:09

we got other stuff. That's so

1:49:11

crazy. Do you guys have like a production trailer?

1:49:13

Whenever you go around the world, do you have

1:49:15

like a, what do you call it? Like a

1:49:17

set or something that you have to say, lighting,

1:49:20

or is that supplied by the venue? You wanna know some crazy

1:49:22

shit? Tell me. We

1:49:24

were on this tour for months. And

1:49:27

I never really like inquired on how like

1:49:30

we got all the lights or shit. I'm

1:49:33

like, bro, I was never the same. I

1:49:36

was like, I knew the fucking men. Every time

1:49:38

I would show up, the lights would be there

1:49:40

and I'd be like, hey, that's fire. It's astounding

1:49:42

how much Dove does and you have no fucking

1:49:44