0:01

Is Natasha

0:03

Bedging Fills

0:05

window still

0:07

dirty? Do

0:09

we still

0:11

do diet

0:13

Coke break

0:15

at 1130?

0:17

I must thank you for the

0:19

valuable service you're doing with this

0:21

show. Oh thank you Helen. It's

0:23

only taken 18 years. I really

0:26

appreciate you saying that. You're illuminating

0:28

people who are outside the UK

0:30

as to what Toby Carvary is.

0:32

My friend Ashra now understands the

0:34

Toby Carvary reference in her Richard

0:36

Osman book. It's important to

0:38

know what Toby Carvary is. It's very

0:40

on trend if you live in Hartsmere

0:42

like I do. It's like Sohoho, farmhouse,

0:44

around here. I never knew. Until last episode,

0:47

just how many of my friends are

0:49

Toby Carvary officinadoes? But you brought them

0:51

all out the woodwork, Ollie. Out the

0:53

woodwork and right to the mac and

0:55

cheese. Did they give you any tips for your

0:57

future Toby Carvery journey, which we are

0:59

going to do? Yes, they said mac and cheese

1:01

for sure, separate plate. It's like a whole

1:03

other meal. Yeah. I mean, there are other tips,

1:06

like when we do do our spin-off Toby

1:08

Carvery podcast, which I would say, just to

1:10

give you give you some headlines. As a

1:12

general rule, if it's a standalone Toby Carverian,

1:14

a converted former pub, you're going to be

1:16

on better ground than if it's attached to

1:18

a travel lodge. It's always better to be

1:21

detached from a travel lodge. Remember to put

1:23

your registration number in the parking console, or

1:25

they will fuck you. And the other thing

1:27

I would say as well, the refill

1:29

machine has Apple tango on it.

1:31

Try it out. Like it's free,

1:34

it's on the refill machine. Chuck

1:36

it out the window, if you

1:38

don't like it, refill with

1:40

Pepsi Max. It's risk-free.

1:42

Apple tango. It's a

1:45

rarity, Apple tango. Exactly,

1:47

you don't just get

1:49

that anywhere. Even in

1:51

an apple officinado's house

1:54

or a tango officinado's

1:56

house. Or at the

1:58

Apple store. either. Jonathan on

2:00

Patreon has even suggested roasting potatoes in

2:02

Mayo instead of in fat or oil.

2:05

I don't know if he's pulling my

2:07

leg. I've never heard of anyone cooking

2:09

anything in Mayonnaise. I recently did read

2:11

an article extolling the virtues of cooking

2:13

everything in Mayonnaise. But I'm not late

2:15

to the Mayonnaise party on anything. I

2:17

don't know how I haven't done this.

2:20

Really let yourself down. How would you

2:22

face Mayo Club? I mean I love

2:24

a potato salad obviously. Of course. It's

2:26

never occurred to me to cook the

2:28

potatoes in mayonnaise before adding them to

2:30

more cold mayonnaise and now I wonder

2:32

if that's like the salad equivalent of

2:34

a triple-cooked chip. Like poach it in

2:37

mayonnaise, then fry it in mayonnaise and

2:39

then mayonnaise it. It's bold Ali, I

2:41

don't want you to die that way

2:43

but... He died as he lived they'll

2:45

say covered in Mayo. Well, he answered

2:47

me this. Why, when you have an

2:49

error message on your computer, does it

2:51

say 404? An appropriate question, because this

2:54

is episode 404 of answer me this.

2:56

Capow. Will it live to be an

2:58

error? We'll find out. It's not quite

3:00

an error, though, is it? It's what

3:02

you see when for some reason that

3:04

page doesn't exist anymore. So typically, when

3:06

a company has taken a page down,

3:08

for example, but the link to it.

3:11

still remains. But actually 404s, the code,

3:13

were not initially designed to be seen

3:15

by people at all. The codes were

3:17

there for a computer network to interpret

3:19

what's going on. And in fact, there's

3:21

a whole list of codes. 404s kind

3:23

of like the famous one is the

3:26

one who broke through. After 403, reject

3:28

siblings. Yeah, exactly. For example, 100 means

3:30

continue. 302 was found. 402 was payment

3:32

required. 503 was service unavailable, which now

3:34

I think about it, I think I

3:36

have seen. But all of this comes

3:38

back to a 1992 document prepared by

3:40

the World Wide Web Consortium, which established

3:43

the 41 defined responses a web server

3:45

can generate. And the fun fact, because

3:47

don't worry, there is a fun fact

3:49

coming in all this Because back in

3:51

the 1980s at CERN in Switzerland, when

3:53

they had the World Wide Web Central

3:55

Database, it was on the fourth floor

3:57

of the building. It was in room

4:00

404. And inside room 404 were a

4:02

load of workers who would actually manually

4:04

locate pages to servers. So if you

4:06

were in a queue for that process

4:08

to happen, you'd get a 404, but

4:10

it would say, room 404, colon, file

4:12

not found. but it did originally mean

4:15

the people in room 404 will get

4:17

around to sorting this out eventually. Huh.

4:19

Which is fun. I love it when

4:21

there's like a real world connection to

4:23

a well-known phrase. Yeah. Like when we

4:25

talked about left wing and right wing

4:27

in the houses of parliament. Does room

4:29

404 have any relation to room 101?

4:32

Yeah. Did they deliberately put the difficult

4:34

to get requests in that room? No.

4:36

But at the same time, I wonder

4:38

if you go back even further than...

4:40

the 1980s and you come up with

4:42

the nerds who built the building at

4:44

CERN. I wonder if they were paying

4:46

tribute to Room 101 by putting it

4:49

in Room 404 in the physical world

4:51

in the first place. And also the

4:53

other thing that's happened regarding 404s generally

4:55

and the reason we all know about

4:57

them is that consumer brands at some

4:59

point in the 1990s started realizing that

5:01

an oops page was actually an opportunity

5:03

to redirect customers to things that might

5:06

interest them anyway. You know, perhaps their

5:08

latest product launch. Always be selling. Or

5:10

just a joke, like a bit of

5:12

branding, you know, hey we're a cloud

5:14

computing company but we're really fun guys.

5:16

And so then the 404 pages became

5:18

more sophisticated and had jokes on and

5:21

stuff and that's why we all... know

5:23

what they are and notice when despotic

5:25

president shut down taxpayer funded institutions that

5:27

used to be there. What does it

5:29

do? Redirected Trump golf courses. Here's a

5:31

question from NR from the West Midlands

5:33

who says, thanks for bringing back the

5:35

podcast. In your absence I've been put

5:38

in a situation that requires advice. One

5:40

day at home I was sitting in

5:42

the lounge minding my own business when

5:44

I heard a fairly loud banging. coming

5:46

from the kitchen being repeated over and

5:48

over. My brother-in-law, aged about 40, was

5:50

teaching my son, age 10, that the

5:52

way to open a coconut was to

5:55

hurl it at the floor as hard

5:57

as you can until it cracks. It's

5:59

anyway. Naturally, I shut this down as

6:01

quickly as possible and opened the coconut

6:03

with a hammer. But when I returned

6:05

to the lounge to tell my wife

6:07

what had just unfolded, she looked at

6:10

me like one of us was stupid

6:12

and said they'd always open coconuts like

6:14

that in her house when she was

6:16

growing up and implied that I was

6:18

being weird for having a problem with

6:20

it. So Helen answered me this, am

6:22

I being weird? No, I think you

6:24

seem to be someone who perhaps is

6:27

concerned for the integrity of your kitchen

6:29

floor. If it's ceramic tiles, a coconut

6:31

could easily crack one of those. We

6:33

did drop coconuts onto a stone path

6:35

just outside our front door, our front

6:37

door when we were growing up when

6:39

we were growing up. but we would

6:41

drain the liquid first by boring a

6:44

hole into the coconut and then we're

6:46

allowed to go and smash it onto

6:48

the path. But that was stone flags.

6:50

And the idea of smashing it on

6:52

the pavement was that deliberately encouraged by

6:54

your parents because it was a fun

6:56

novelty way to open the coconut? Or

6:58

was it done in all innocence as

7:01

it appears to be the case here

7:03

of just like, yeah, it's the floor,

7:05

bang it? Yeah, well I think that

7:07

the advantage of that over the hammer

7:09

method is that it's smashing in your

7:11

eye. Whereas the hammer method I think

7:13

you could get a lot of coconut

7:16

ricocheting around. But I do identify with

7:18

the satisfaction of hurling things at the

7:20

floor. I actually do this for my

7:22

chickens. We keep chickens and the most

7:24

fun way to feed a chicken is

7:26

to feed a chicken is to just

7:28

chuck fruit hard at the floor until

7:30

it explodes. It's really fun. And it's

7:33

obviously it's easier with soft fruit in

7:35

the first place like bananas and avocados.

7:37

But if you just go boom with

7:39

an out-of-date fruit, you love it. It's

7:41

incredibly therapeutic. It's incredibly therapeutic. It's incredibly

7:43

therapeutic. It's incredibly therapeutic. It's incredibly therapeutic.

7:45

It's incredibly therapeutic. another strong argument for

7:47

getting chickens. What I like that is

7:50

subtly embedded in this is that NR's

7:52

wife looks at NR like one of

7:54

us was stupid and said they'd always

7:56

open coconuts like that in her house

7:58

when she was growing up. It's like

8:00

there's little family psychodromas you hear about

8:02

where someone's like I went to my

8:05

partner's family home for Christmas for the

8:07

first time and they were like what's

8:09

the problem we always tongue kiss in

8:11

this family. But coconut opening so much more

8:13

innocent. Well let Mickey plough the dolzai polisher

8:15

in my family. Yeah, he's throwing that in

8:17

as if everyone will understand what the fuck you're talking about.

8:20

Oh, uh, it was my great-grand used to say when, you know,

8:22

when someone asks, oh, where you're off to, and you don't really

8:24

want to tell someone, especially if they're a child, so you say,

8:26

I'm going to see a man about a dog. Oh, yeah, yeah.

8:28

Her equivalent was, I'm going to see Nikki Plough. I'm going to

8:30

see a man about a better dog. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

8:32

Her equivalent was, yeah. Her equivalent was, I'm going to I'm going

8:35

to. Her equivalent, I'm going to. Her equivalent, I'm going to I'm

8:37

going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, when,

8:39

when older people, when older people, when older people. speak in code

8:41

and expect younger people to have understood just through insinuation even though

8:43

the references are well out of date. My father-in-law

8:45

does this when he's giving directions to anywhere

8:48

from where he lives. So they live in a village

8:50

called Ashwell which is near Bullock and that's literally

8:52

what the address says, Ashwell comma and our

8:55

dot Bullock. Yes, my grandparents used to live

8:57

next door and if I was writing to them

8:59

it was Ashwell near Bullock on the envelope. There

9:01

we go. And so if you want directions

9:03

to anywhere, you get directions from Bulldock.

9:05

Like it's just assumed that you know

9:07

how to get to Bulldock. So immediately,

9:09

like you're out of your depth if

9:11

you don't know the way to Bulldock.

9:13

Getting to Bulldock is your problem mate.

9:15

But then, the landmark that he uses

9:17

in Bulldock is Fishie Taylor's, a fish

9:19

and chip shop that has not existed

9:21

for over 20 years. So he always

9:24

says, get to Fishy Taylor's and take

9:26

a fishy Taylor's. You know if you. Being

9:28

from the West Midlands has also had Nikki

9:30

Plough experience, or if that is Martin's

9:32

family special. I think that was my

9:34

great grandmother. But if someone else has

9:36

heard that, I'd be really curious because,

9:38

you know, there's things that you wonder

9:40

if they're specific to your family and

9:42

maybe they're regional. Well, Madeline from Ely

9:44

and Cambridge says, Ollie, answer me this. When

9:46

coffee giants like Costa and Starbucks are designing

9:48

new coffee drinks for their menu, what is

9:51

the process for this? What are the parameters

9:53

they must stick to? For example, the drinks

9:55

must be able to be made by a

9:57

barista within a certain time limit, or they

9:59

must... certain ingredients or caffeine limits etc.

10:01

I'm assuming price point would be a

10:03

compelling example that Madeline has not specified.

10:05

Absolutely. I mean her own imagination has

10:07

brought us roughly to the list of

10:09

criteria though as you say sometimes other

10:11

commercial factors come in and new drinks

10:13

are introduced without having been properly road

10:15

tested so I know from a mole

10:18

on the inside that caffeine era introduced

10:20

a mystery Batman flavor. Wouldn't it be

10:22

amazing? It was like a hot chocolate

10:24

with a riddler question mark on it

10:26

in the froth and you were supposed

10:28

to guess what the flavour was. But

10:30

that was the problem. The mystery flavour

10:32

was like oranges and oat milk. This

10:34

is a chain that prides itself on

10:36

traditional Italian coffee. So their customers did

10:38

not like that. But they'd been bugged

10:40

a load of money from Warners to

10:42

promote the film. And so you get

10:44

this thing of like, this isn't the

10:46

right product for us, but there are

10:48

commercial reasons why we should be offering

10:50

this. Obviously everything is sort of market

10:52

research to within an inch of its

10:54

life and then rolled out slowly. So

10:56

the classic case study is pumpkin spice

10:58

latte, a phenomenon I think we can

11:00

agree. Yes, out of control. That started

11:02

with a need from the HQ. So

11:04

the need was we need a special

11:06

drink for autumn and so they had

11:08

a brainstorm and then they came up

11:10

with like 200 different options for what

11:12

would sell to their customers. But then...

11:14

There's a lot of rigorous testing, partly

11:16

based on obviously taste combinations, you know,

11:18

balancing the floral notes, etc. The initial

11:21

test for the pumpkin spice latte was

11:23

they dunked pumpkin pie in espresso. That

11:25

was the first thing they tried. Just

11:27

to see whether the taste combination was

11:29

right. And it is often that basic.

11:31

I once interviewed the guy who invented

11:33

balies. on the modern hand. No, wow.

11:35

Touch you, you're real. The test kitchen

11:37

for that was literally popping down to

11:39

the off licence, buying some nest quick

11:41

and putting it in some rum. I

11:43

mean that is how they developed to

11:45

see whether the combination works before you

11:47

then create any further. And you know

11:49

we take for granted that those things

11:51

would work together. but you really can't

11:53

be sure. Like the other day I

11:55

got a spicy iced mokker because I

11:57

like an iced mokker and I like

11:59

spicy things together. monstrous, appalling. Right, yes,

12:01

yes, yes, yeah, but you see some

12:03

people do like the combinations and you

12:05

can't tell even until you roll it

12:07

out. So I mean that's the next

12:09

stage is that the pumpkin spice latte,

12:11

I mean the classic example as I

12:13

say, the textbook. was rolled out to

12:15

two locations first Vancouver BC in fact

12:17

yeah so you could have been amongst

12:19

the first where you are the other

12:21

place they tested it was Washington DC

12:24

and then when it caught on then

12:26

they started rolling out and that broadly

12:28

speaking what Starbucks still do it's interesting

12:30

because the basics innovate like that so

12:32

for example in the UK the standard

12:34

Starbucks latte in the 90s was one

12:36

shot of espresso and a full fat

12:38

milk puddled in the middle puddled whereas

12:40

now It's two shots of espresso and

12:42

foam art on top because that's what

12:44

the market has come to expect and

12:46

the UK was ordering extra shots of

12:48

espresso for their lattice anyhow whereas in

12:50

the US they still use one shot.

12:52

So that kind of stuff is informed

12:54

by customers. So market research that they're

12:56

already getting paid for. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

12:58

yeah. But sometimes that still goes wrong.

13:00

Just last year they withdrew almost immediately

13:02

after introducing it, a strawberry and vanilla

13:04

oat milk coffee and a Fraicino that

13:06

had a layer of jelly at the

13:08

bottom. I wonder whether they were trying

13:10

to get on the Boba market. Yeah,

13:12

I've got really into the text to

13:14

drink, so there was a time when

13:16

I would offend that jelly constituent quite

13:18

off-putting, but no, I'm... I'm into them

13:20

all, the grass jellies, the coconut jellies,

13:22

the coconut jellies, tapiocas. Sometimes I guess

13:25

you can be too ahead of a

13:27

trend, can't you? If you're a mainstream

13:29

chain, you've got to get it right

13:31

when the masses are ready to have

13:33

it. I guess you could know who

13:35

your customers are, haven't you? Well, I

13:37

was clever about it, of course, just

13:39

to go back about it. Just to

13:41

know who your customers are, haven't you.

13:43

Well, I was clever about it, haven't.

13:45

Well, I was clever about it, I

13:47

haven't. Well, I was, I was, of,

13:49

I was, I was, of, I was,

13:51

I was, I was, I was, I'm,

13:53

I was, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

13:55

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,

13:57

I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm so

13:59

called on the height. No. So it's

14:01

similarly, it's like Costa now have a

14:03

thing that they call a Spanish latte

14:05

for the UK market. It's coffee con

14:07

leche, that's what it is. Oh, yeah.

14:09

But it's just you can only get

14:11

a Spanish latte at Costa. So it's

14:13

like you use the coffee, if you

14:15

can, to create a meme. Like for Apuccino,

14:18

that people associate with your

14:20

main brand. In North America,

14:22

people still drink coffee. But actually

14:24

in the UK, the top orders,

14:27

none of them are really, you

14:29

basically can't get brewed coffee in

14:31

most of those stores, they don't

14:33

do filter coffee, and the top

14:35

orders are latte, cappuccino, caramel macciato,

14:37

Americano, and ice latte. I would

14:39

say out of those only really

14:41

an Americano, actually is a coffee.

14:44

Well maybe people are getting their

14:46

coffee elsewhere, and they're going to

14:48

Starbucks for the things that they are

14:50

not making at home or getting from

14:53

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from Sarah for Massachusetts who

15:55

says I'm currently filling out

15:57

an anatomical gift form for a

15:59

So I can donate my body to

16:02

science. No worries for my immediate fate

16:04

necessary, just planning for the inevitable future.

16:06

Well, that's some real long-term planning then.

16:08

I do a bit of forward planning

16:10

on a down day and it's usually

16:12

like, where should we go camping in

16:14

September rather than what's going to happen

16:16

to my knee caps when I die?

16:18

Your most precious body part? I thought

16:20

I would turn them into little snack

16:23

dishes. Stop knee shaming him. Sarah says,

16:25

the form has spaces for me to

16:27

write, what being an anatomical donor means

16:29

to me, and to write a message

16:31

for the future healthcare professionals who will

16:33

be learning from my body, or bits

16:35

of it as the case may be.

16:37

I find myself at a loss for

16:39

what to write here. Have fun, kids,

16:42

seems a bit glid. I doubt they'd

16:44

take seriously my request that my skeleton

16:46

be dressed up for Halloween every year.

16:48

But I also don't want to go

16:50

to the other extreme and write something

16:52

tried or overly sentimental. So, Ollie, answer

16:54

me this, what should I say to

16:56

the future medical students who will be

16:58

dissecting my corpse? Oh, I really don't

17:00

know that there's any should on this.

17:03

Like, I can't tell you what to

17:05

say. I think I would try not

17:07

to be, as it sounds like maybe

17:09

you've been, a bit intimidated by the

17:11

formality of the form. Like I feel

17:13

like this prompt, you know. what does

17:15

being an anatomical donor mean to you

17:17

is actually really just for some people

17:19

a good kind of thought exercise to

17:22

imagine the question is being asked by

17:24

a friend over a coffee or a

17:26

beer why are you doing this and

17:28

some people know that they want to

17:30

tell that person why they're doing it

17:32

and some people don't and I think

17:34

it's fine if you don't. If you

17:36

think that your body being donated speaks

17:38

for itself, you don't need to say

17:40

anything. But I think if you imagine

17:43

that question coming to you in that

17:45

informal setting, oh Sarah, why are you

17:47

doing that? Why are you donating your

17:49

body to science? You don't need to

17:51

overthink the answer because you probably do

17:53

have an answer to that. Maybe it's,

17:55

oh, because I don't have a religious

17:57

faith, I'm not bothered about having a

17:59

ceremony. or maybe it's because I've always

18:02

wanted to pay things forward and I think

18:04

this is a way to support the future

18:06

of science. I think it's just a way

18:08

of humanizing that question for people

18:10

who aren't sure what to write and

18:12

also then in turn humanizing you for those

18:14

doctors and scientists who are going to

18:17

be tampering around with you later. Do

18:19

they want that? Do they want you to

18:21

be humanized? Please answer us this if you

18:23

are or have been a medical student. Do

18:25

you want the corpses in front of you

18:27

to be humanized and to be thinking about

18:30

who they were or do you want to

18:32

just think of them as a meat jigsaw

18:34

puzzle? Cadava number seven. Right. I think

18:36

I'd probably want to remove the fact of

18:38

their personalities as much as possible when I

18:40

was like slicing them into bits. What you

18:42

could do, Sarah, if you have tattoos, maybe

18:44

tell them the story of the tattoos, because

18:47

I think I'd be curious about that. Yes,

18:49

yeah. Whatever it was. If you don't have one, maybe you

18:51

could get a tattoo that tells you a whole story to

18:53

them. Oh yeah, then you don't need to write anything on

18:55

the form. Then you don't need to write the form.

18:57

Well, Sarah has an additional question, Ollie. The

19:00

form includes options for the disposal of

19:02

my remains, after all the sciencey stuff

19:04

that can be done with them is

19:06

finished. Most are fairly standard. Cromation and

19:09

burial, cremation and return to my next

19:11

of kin, etc. My favorite option though

19:13

is total skeletonization. Wow. I was pretty

19:15

jazzed about the idea of being a

19:18

skeleton in a medical school classroom, mostly

19:20

because I enjoy the thought of being

19:22

both useful and kind of funny. However...

19:24

It wasn't until further down in the

19:27

form that I discovered the skeletonization process

19:29

is done by a... dermested beetle colony.

19:31

What? Now I'm torn. Because I have

19:33

a huge irrational fear of all things

19:35

creepy-crawley. On the one hand, I really

19:38

want to be a skeleton and I know that

19:40

beetles are probably the best way. Logically, I

19:42

know that I won't be around to see

19:44

or feel any of the happily munching little

19:47

critters, but right now, it's just the mental

19:49

image is enough to give me nightmares to

19:51

give me nightmares. I don't want to be

19:53

on my deathbed someday and be made even

19:56

more upset by the thought of being nibbled

19:58

on, but also skeleton. So Ollie

20:00

answered me this, to Skeleton or not

20:02

to Skeleton? Don't put it on me

20:04

man. Like I'm not giving my body

20:06

to me. Oh I'll take it then.

20:09

What do you care? It's after you've

20:11

died, it doesn't matter if you're afraid

20:13

of Beatles or not, this is the

20:15

one time when you will not have

20:17

to worry about them. Yeah but she

20:19

said in the email hell and the

20:21

issue is not how she knows rationally,

20:23

she's not going to be thinking in

20:26

the future. Much as I like the

20:28

idea of encouraging you to skeletonise yourself,

20:30

if you think there's a chance that

20:32

on your deathbed you will be worried

20:34

about that, don't do it. If you

20:36

know the beetles are going to devour

20:38

your corpse, that makes the phobia you

20:40

have of beetles quite rational and justified

20:43

at that point. Or, seek therapy for

20:45

this phobia, and then get the skeletonisation

20:47

done. Sure. But the point is, isn't

20:49

it, that insects will nibble at your

20:51

corpse anyway? Like unless you're cremated. like

20:53

do some fairly hefty chopping up before

20:55

it gets to that point. Like it's

20:58

not like you're going to be delivered

21:00

pristine to the Beatles to face. I

21:02

think also bear in mind that when

21:04

you're on your deathbed you might not

21:06

be capable of having such thoughts anyway

21:08

or you might have other stuff to

21:10

worry about. I mean the concept of

21:12

having my body hanging around in a

21:15

medical lab, the thing that would stop

21:17

me personally doing that is that I

21:19

don't feel strongly enough about... donating my

21:21

body to be a skeleton that I

21:23

would want to deprive my surviving relatives

21:25

of the opportunity to visit my grave

21:27

or scatter my ashes if that's something

21:29

they wanted to do, rather than being

21:32

like, oh yeah, you have to go

21:34

to King's College London and see him

21:36

strung up on the fifth floor. But

21:38

what if you left your skeleton to

21:40

theatre and if your family wanted to

21:42

visit you, they just had to go

21:44

and see a production of Hamlet? Actually,

21:47

I mean, that's not so fun. When

21:49

they opened Pirates of the Caribbean in

21:51

Disneyland in the 60s, they used real

21:53

human skeletons. What? From UCLA. Oh my

21:55

god. And it's because in the 60s

21:57

they didn't have convincing real skeletons made

21:59

on mass for theme park amusements and

22:01

they just hadn't thought through the ethical

22:04

questions of that. Were people just okay

22:06

with it then? Someone was obviously okay

22:08

with it. I don't know I guess

22:10

once it became a sort of iconic

22:12

ride and people were else that you're

22:14

bringing children along to look at the

22:16

cadavers of people who have not been

22:18

given proper burials as part of an

22:21

amusement. Then they felt uneasy about it

22:23

and they replaced them all. Rumor has

22:25

it, there is one skeleton in the

22:27

parts of the Caribbean ride in California

22:29

that is still real. Oh, that sounds

22:31

like an open myth. Well, you know

22:33

what, I wonder more as if it

22:36

was just not that practical to maintain

22:38

them, like they probably looked a bit

22:40

manky and it's a watery ride, so

22:42

maybe the damp, the heat of Southern

22:44

California, maybe it's just quite a gnarly

22:46

skeleton situation. Both Martin's dad and my

22:48

dad have died in the last couple

22:50

of years. And my family in particular

22:53

don't have any sentimental attachment to dead

22:55

bodies or graves. And neither of our

22:57

dads had specified really what they wanted

22:59

to happen. I think Martin's dad was

23:01

just like, I don't care, I won't

23:03

be around. I think he said, put

23:05

me in a plastic bag and throw

23:07

me in. into a dump or something

23:10

like that. Which we didn't do. Which

23:12

is not practical. You don't like to

23:14

do that? No. I think it's illegal.

23:16

It would look suspicious for sure. I

23:18

think my dad just thought he was

23:20

never going to die. I think he

23:22

really thought he was still had like

23:25

hundreds of years ahead of him. And

23:27

so to me it felt a bit

23:29

like a waste disposal task to figure

23:31

out what to their bodies and also

23:33

I was like there's a kind of...

23:35

morbid luxuration in it in a way.

23:37

It's funny isn't it the whole opt-in

23:39

opt-out thing? I think the law probably

23:42

has it right now that they've changed

23:44

organ donation to opt out but you

23:46

know that donating your body to medical

23:48

sciences opt in. But if we had

23:50

a world where it was opt-out, would

23:52

I opt out? Like if that was

23:54

the normal thing to do, it wouldn't

23:56

occur to me that I'd want to

23:59

say... Or do you want to mean

24:01

that I'd have a particular preference?

24:03

It only seems pretty kish because it's

24:05

not a thing that most people do. You

24:07

know what I wouldn't want if I left

24:10

my body to science is just thinking about

24:12

how many scientists of the 20th century

24:14

were eugenicists? Can you specify

24:16

I don't want it to be left for

24:18

phrenologists to pick on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah,

24:20

can you pick the particular science they can

24:22

look into? Yeah. The thing is if

24:24

you're a genuine scientist. Even if

24:27

you approach a controversial area of

24:29

science that's been disproven in the

24:31

past, if you're approaching it with a

24:33

genuine belief you might be able to

24:35

find out something new in the future, and

24:37

then you do, then everyone who said that you

24:39

were wrong was wrong, right? I mean, that's

24:41

the thing, like, should you be able to

24:43

say to someone, absolutely never think

24:46

of this like this, otherwise they

24:48

wouldn't have people to experiment on.

24:50

I mean, some people have very

24:52

prophonology, so they would probably, yeah.

24:54

They'd be happy. I know that

24:56

my baby is the absolute

24:58

best. I put Facebook photos

25:00

up daily and my friends

25:02

are impressed, apart from ones

25:04

who block me, because they're

25:07

jealous. Because their babies are

25:09

so ugly. Well, why not build

25:11

a gallery of your kid on

25:13

square space with special pages for

25:15

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from Jackie from Jackie. Hello, we live

26:29

in the middle of the middle of

26:31

the United States and we want to

26:33

see the Northern Lights. I don't know

26:36

if that means we have to go

26:38

very, very far away to some place

26:40

like Finland or if there is some

26:42

place a little closer that would be

26:45

a little less expensive to get to.

26:47

So Helen and Ali, please answer me

26:49

this. Where should we go to see

26:51

the Northern Lights? To see the Northern

26:54

Lights. You want to go pretty far

26:56

north. and you also want clear skies.

26:58

Far north is expensive. Places like Iceland

27:00

often cloudy. So here is my vote

27:03

for optimal possibility of seeing the Northern

27:05

Nights and not even leaving the landmass

27:07

that you're on. Yellow knife and calendar

27:09

where the Northern Nights are visible up

27:12

to 240 days per year. Wow, that

27:14

is a lot of days. I got

27:16

some advice from our friend Brie who

27:18

lives in Yellow Knife who says if

27:20

you want to see them when it's

27:23

warmest. Then September is a good month.

27:25

If you want to see them during

27:27

winter but not too cold winter, March

27:29

is the best month. But in general

27:32

we have very clear skies from mid-December

27:34

to late April. And then in the

27:36

middle it's too light. It's so far

27:38

north that the nights aren't dark enough.

27:40

Do not come in October, November and

27:42

early December. It's cloudy. Okay, good. All

27:44

right. Another good thing about going to

27:46

Yella Knife. They have an indigenous-owned aurora

27:48

village that you can stay in. If

27:51

you want your tourism- And yellow knife

27:53

is accessible by flights from many flight

27:55

hubs, including Calgary and Toronto, which are

27:57

pretty doable from the middle of the

27:59

USA. Okay. I suggest. If Jackie wants

28:01

to stay in the USA, then you

28:03

have options like Alaska, you can go

28:05

to Fairbanks or further north, mid-August, mid-April,

28:07

and places like Idaho and North Dakota

28:09

have dark sky parks. And our friend

28:11

Dave, who grew up in Michigan, said

28:13

he used to see northern lights in

28:15

the upper peninsula there a lot. But

28:17

I do think you should travel somewhere

28:20

where you know you'd be happy doing the

28:22

other stuff there is to do there in

28:24

case you're disappointed by not seeing the northern

28:26

lights. Or indeed, you see the Northern

28:28

Lights and then find them disappointing. You're

28:31

not going to find the Northern Lights

28:33

as disappointing. No. You really not? You

28:35

tell you've got personal experience. Where have

28:37

you seen the Northern Lights? Yeah, we've seen

28:39

them in Iceland. We saw them here in

28:41

Vancouver last year because at the moment we're

28:44

in a period of great solar storm activity,

28:46

so it's a good time to see the

28:48

Northern Lights between now and 2027. Right. I'm

28:50

a bit jealous. Because there was that

28:52

moment last year in the Northern Lights

28:54

were visible. even in Hartfordshire where I

28:57

live. So obviously at that point, my

28:59

wife, the kids, the freezing cold, 11 p.m.

29:01

at night, we're out on the front drive

29:03

with my kids' novelty telescopes, pointlessly looking up

29:05

with the sky, can't see a fucking thing,

29:08

think we see it and realize it's just

29:10

like the blur of the M25 in the

29:12

background. And then what happened the following week?

29:14

Is it happen again? And if you remember, like

29:17

there were two times where you can see it.

29:19

I was alerted to that fact on social media,

29:21

like I hadn't noticed that people were saying, are

29:23

we going to be able to see the Northern

29:26

Lights again? And suddenly I started seeing all these

29:28

photos on my social media of people taking pictures

29:30

of the Northern Lights in real time. And it was

29:32

midnight and I was lying on my sofa with my

29:34

dressing gown with a glass wine in my hand and

29:36

I had that thought process of... Can I be

29:38

asked to stand up and go outside and stand on

29:40

the front drive just in case I see the Northern

29:42

Lights when I can see them fine here on my I

29:45

can see them fine here on my iPad? and I didn't get

29:47

up and go out for good sides because I just thought

29:49

I probably won't be able to see them but that might

29:51

have been it that might have been my one chance and

29:53

I thought well this guy's taking a picture don't you say

29:55

he's in well in looks all right yeah what's the point

29:57

of doing anything ever when you could just look

29:59

at Google images Exactly, I mean that was

30:01

genuinely my thought process, I realise you're

30:03

being ironic. Here's another question of travel,

30:06

from Elizabeth, who says. My girlfriend and

30:08

I have just got back from a

30:10

lovely holiday in Madeira. We visited a

30:12

beach on the south of the island,

30:14

which had yellow sand, different to the

30:16

native volcanic black sand, which we were

30:18

told by a taxi driver, had been

30:21

transplanted from Morocco to encourage tourism. This

30:23

is the second transplanted beach I've been

30:25

to. There is at least one on

30:27

Lake Michigan in the North Shore area

30:29

of Chicago as well. So Helen answer

30:31

me this. With beaches created like this,

30:33

how do they guarantee they aren't transplanting

30:35

creatures in the sand that are not

30:38

native? Do they sift the sand in

30:40

giant machines? Aren't we lucky to have

30:42

this running feature where I ruin people's

30:44

lovely holiday fun? Oh, what a novelty

30:46

in came out being very harrowed indeed

30:48

by this practice. There's so much controversy.

30:50

There's so much crime because there's not

30:53

enough sand in the world. What? There's

30:55

this big sand shortage in fact because

30:57

of construction, mostly. I know there's a

30:59

shortage in construction. Like even sometimes in

31:01

play sand when you're filling up a

31:03

sand pit, it's hard. But I would

31:05

have thought, like, actually on beaches, no.

31:07

They have to use sand from beaches

31:10

and river and lake shores because it's

31:12

jagged enough. People like, why don't you

31:14

use sand from a desert? They can't,

31:16

because that sand is too rounded. 50

31:18

billion tons a year of sand are

31:20

extracted from beaches, rivers and lakes, and

31:22

there's a lot of theft, there's a

31:25

lot of heists. It's a very big

31:27

business, legal and illegal. It's pretty scary.

31:29

In India, for instance, hundreds of people

31:31

have been murdered over sand. In 2008,

31:33

a quarter mile of white sand beach

31:35

in Jamaica was stolen. and I think

31:37

still no one has found the culprits

31:39

or what happened to the sand. How

31:42

the fuck do you still 500 truckloads

31:44

of sand? I was going to say,

31:46

yeah, like a few bags I can

31:48

understand. And then a lot of beaches

31:50

have more sand added to try and

31:52

slow... erosion. So actually a lot more

31:54

beaches are beach nourished, which is one

31:56

of the usefulness they use, or just

31:59

put there from nothing, whereas other beaches

32:01

all the sand is taken away and

32:03

they see like a rocky nub now.

32:05

Which is actually just bad planning, isn't

32:07

it? I mean, like if people want

32:09

to go to a place because they

32:11

want a sandy beach holiday and that

32:14

place doesn't naturally have a sandy beach,

32:16

then they put the resort in the

32:18

wrong place. I mean, why didn't they

32:20

build the resort in the resort in

32:22

the other place? are like we want

32:24

our money and this is where it's

32:26

going to be. But these beaches in

32:28

Madeira are quite controversial because the sand

32:31

was imported from the Western Sahara which

32:33

is occupied by Morocco and the import

32:35

may be violating international law. What I

32:37

couldn't find out for sure is whether

32:39

or how they clean this sand because

32:41

you're right. Like for instance, the sand

32:43

on Waikiki beach in Hawaii was imported

32:46

there from California. between the 1920s and

32:48

the 70s. What? I thought Hawaii had

32:50

like famously perfect beaches in the first

32:52

place. Well not there, because of erosion.

32:54

Also there's another beach Hanama Bay, it's

32:56

just around the corner from Waikiki, and

32:58

they had white sand shipped in in

33:00

the 70s to make it look more

33:03

attractive to tourists. And I was like,

33:05

what the fuck did they bring in

33:07

with this sand? Hawaii's ecosystems, a delicate...

33:09

So now Waikiki, I think they pump

33:11

the sand in from offshore so that

33:13

it is locally sourced because transporting the

33:15

sand as well is so expensive because

33:17

it sounds really heavy. But also then

33:20

it doesn't have the organism problem. The

33:22

Chicago one, that comes from the Indiana

33:24

shoreline, so that's just along from Chicago,

33:26

it's probably, same sort of ecosystems. Some

33:28

of the sand mining companies do talk

33:30

about, they're like, oh yes, we wash

33:32

it, and then we sort it into

33:35

different types, which I think is by

33:37

size and texture and color and color,

33:39

because they're what they're what they're what

33:41

they're what they're what they're what they're

33:43

what they're doing. because so much of

33:45

this stuff is either not legal or

33:47

no one is really regulating it. It's

33:49

hard to find out. Then I think

33:52

they're probably like, oh whatever, we don't

33:54

give a shit. So troubling. Yeah, that

33:56

is depressing but also fascinating. I mean

33:58

I've been... on beaches that I've been

34:00

told are fake beaches. But they felt

34:02

so real to me. The thing is,

34:04

I feel like the quest for the

34:07

perfect beach, quote on quotes, is

34:09

sort of impossible anyway. We actually

34:11

once went to Siesta Key on the

34:13

west coast of Florida because it is

34:16

routinely voted the best beach in

34:18

America. And I was like, we're going

34:20

to the east coast of the United

34:22

States on holiday, where should we go?

34:24

Let's go somewhere with a good beach,

34:26

found Siesta key. Only to realise that when

34:29

we were there in September it was the

34:31

red tide. And the red tide is this

34:33

seasonal algae that turns the water red. And

34:35

then all the fish die and their bodies

34:37

lit to the sand with a carpet of

34:40

blood. Perfect. And it is not what I

34:42

was imagining for my Instagram. And I thought,

34:44

why was I greedy? I could have just

34:46

gone to Marbaya and they would have had

34:48

a better beach than this. You know, sometimes

34:51

perfection is the wrong thing to attain.

34:53

Exactly. But also what is it.

34:55

What makes it a perfect beach. For

34:57

me, I wouldn't want the landscape to

34:59

be so flat, for instance. I want

35:01

a bit more topographical interest. I

35:03

mean, I think shade for me.

35:06

Oh yeah. That's the big one.

35:08

It doesn't solve the wind problem

35:10

in Britain. I mean, that's the,

35:12

you know, unfortunately, like whatever the

35:15

surface of the beach is, it's the lashing

35:17

wind in your face, blowing it

35:19

into your eyes that's the problem.

35:21

Right, people go to beaches to get

35:23

exfoliated. who says, when I first

35:25

listened to you at age 13,

35:27

I was doing my paper round,

35:30

round tumbridge. Now I'm old enough

35:32

to buy a house. Simon, when am

35:34

I going to be old enough to buy

35:36

a house? I'm way older than you. No,

35:39

that was a well-paid paper

35:41

round. Thus, buying a house

35:43

has engendered Simon's question. Simon

35:45

says, Holly, answer me this.

35:47

Where does the word solicitor

35:49

come from? What are they

35:51

solicitor? which found itself into Middle English

35:53

to mean agent, one who conducts business on

35:56

behalf of another. There are some who say

35:58

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to Google for you Julia, of

46:21

course. So the date of Easter

46:23

Sunday is always coinciding with the

46:26

first Sunday after the Pascal full

46:28

moon. after the vernal equinox, which

46:31

is on 21st of March, this

46:33

being in the Gregorian calendar following

46:35

branches of Christianity, Orthodox churches on

46:38

the Julian calendar, an extra Easter

46:40

date range, but stick to Gregorian

46:42

for now because anything involving calendars

46:44

is enough to make your brain

46:46

explode from things that aren't even

46:48

sad. It's the Sunday after the

46:51

first full moon, after the vernal

46:53

equinox on 21st of March, the

46:55

reason it's called Pasca or Passa,

46:57

depending on which Passover. I was going

46:59

to say the last supper, that was a

47:01

Passover meal, wasn't it? There was

47:04

a Sadenite meal, so therefore... I

47:06

never made that connection, but that

47:08

doesn't make perfect sense. Yeah. You

47:10

can't just set it to a

47:12

particular day because we know, because

47:14

of Judaism, that the Passover does

47:16

follow the lunar calendar. You can't then

47:18

just pretend, oh no, it would have

47:21

been three weeks ago, like it always

47:23

has to follow the Passover, doesn't it?

47:25

Right. And so the date of Passover

47:27

is going to fluctuate on the

47:30

Gregorian calendar because the

47:32

Gregorian calendar is not a

47:34

lunar calendar. Yes. Hence Easter's date

47:36

is different each year. But then why

47:38

not Christmas? Christmas was tacked on to

47:40

ancient Roman midwinter festivals and ancient pagan

47:42

festivals that are based around when the

47:45

winter solstice is something that... we know

47:47

when that is, even though the day

47:49

it's calendarized on has changed in the

47:51

ancient Roman calendar, I think it was

47:53

the 25th of December, but a lot

47:56

has happened since then. Because there's nothing

47:58

in the Bible about what Jesus... his mom

48:00

was doing festival-wise before she gave birth.

48:02

Harder to pinpoint. She was celebrating Saturnalia

48:05

when her waters broke. Exactly. I did

48:07

read a book once about the Science

48:09

of Christmas that went quite deep into

48:11

this and they said it's far more

48:14

likely that Jesus' birthday was in April

48:16

or September. He's just so in airy's.

48:18

As I understand it, like... Not only

48:21

do people doubt the month and the

48:23

day, but even the year is debated

48:25

up to about 6 BC, I think.

48:27

Yeah, it's a massive span, isn't there?

48:30

Because he was a baby, like he

48:32

wasn't actually doing anything remarkable until afterwards

48:34

they decided it was remarkable. Oh, he

48:37

probably did an amazing shit in the

48:39

shape of God's beard. The thing though,

48:41

with Easter, right, it's never really recovered,

48:44

I don't think, as a festival, since

48:46

the Puritans banned it. Well, we look

48:48

back through what people used to what

48:50

people used to do, pre-1647, pre-1647, pre-1647,

48:53

pre-1647, pre-47, pre-47, pre-47, pre-47, pre-47, and...

48:55

There was a lot of like parades

48:57

and you know community stuff like you'd

49:00

get at Christmas and also Lent was

49:02

a huge deal right everyone gave up

49:04

sex for Lent. Everyone strictly enforced. Well

49:06

sure it wasn't done to boast about

49:09

not doing that. I mean if you

49:11

were in other countries than Britain then

49:13

Easter often still has parades. Still a

49:16

big deal. And loads of stuff happening.

49:18

Yeah but isn't that interesting like since

49:20

1660 when it was restored? The other

49:22

stuff that's been restored, I just prefer,

49:25

I just prefer Shakespeare. I'm just going

49:27

to wait until they invent the cabry's

49:29

cream egg and then maybe it'll give

49:32

a shit. I do find that being

49:34

secular at Easter is harder than being

49:36

secular at Christmas because you get the

49:38

day off but it's like apart from

49:41

being cute, what do you do? You

49:43

get loaded days off? Yeah, you get

49:45

too, yeah. Four day weekend. What's it

49:48

for? So that you can contemplate how

49:50

sad it was that Christ was crucified

49:52

for our crucified for our sins for

49:54

our sins. One year we did a

49:57

hot wheel hunt because I didn't want

49:59

to do an Easter egg hunt because

50:01

I didn't want the kids to eat

50:04

too much chocolate. So it sounded like

50:06

a really fun idea. I was like,

50:08

I'm going to get all your hot

50:10

wheels. I'm going to put them all

50:13

in different places around the garden and

50:15

you're going to have to find them.

50:17

And then being dyspraxic completely... got where

50:20

I hid all the hot wheels. Are

50:22

you still finding them? Still finding them

50:24

occasionally had a lot of tears that

50:26

Easter. Yeah, it was not a good

50:29

move. I've noticed though the last few

50:31

years there's been a lot more Easter

50:33

tap to buy. Yeah. And it has

50:36

been more of a big deal in

50:38

terms of like our Valentine's days over

50:40

what's the next thing we can decorate

50:42

the shit out of our houses for

50:45

and buy a lot of stuff. But

50:47

now there's like four foot high flocked

50:49

rabbits available in the supermarkets and stuff

50:52

like that. And it just really harrows

50:54

me like that and Halloween just how

50:56

much like plastic shit people are buying.

50:58

I can't I can't bear it. Don't

51:01

ruin Halloween for me Helen. Halloween is

51:03

my festival. I'm in TK Max in

51:05

August buying the Halloween data. If it's

51:08

orange I'm there. All right, we'll just

51:10

keep it up. We'll be around. Well,

51:12

talking of calendars, many of you I'm

51:14

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51:19

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51:21

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51:24

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51:28

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51:30

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51:37

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51:40

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51:42

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51:44

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51:46

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51:49

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51:51

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51:53

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51:56

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51:58

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52:00

So my son Harvey has a special

52:02

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52:05

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52:07

So at the time of recording we

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52:12

Oh, fuck you all I'm going to

52:14

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52:16

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54:01

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54:04

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54:08

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54:10

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54:13

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54:15

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54:17

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54:22

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54:38

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55:28

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55:30

like to have one last work from.

55:33

Michael from Glossop, previously from Wankheim, nominates

55:35

John Kennedy Toole, who wrote a Confederacy

55:37

of Dances but never lived to see

55:40

it published. Sue's pick is author Sue

55:42

Grafton, who completed 25 of her alphabet

55:44

Kinsey Milhone series before her death and

55:46

never completed the Z. Oh! It would

55:49

be good to read that final book.

55:51

Oh, that's harsh. Timothy in Berlin picks

55:53

George Gershwin and Madeline in Fremantle, Western

55:56

Australia, says, Douglas Adams, popular pick, and

55:58

Jim Henson, inventor of the Muppets. Oh,

56:00

well now you're taking me back to

56:02

my Disney World trip because one of

56:05

the reasons that I'm very excited about

56:07

taking my kids to Disney World, is

56:09

because very sadly this hurts me to

56:12

my core. They're closing Muppets for... in

56:14

June. And I'm so excited because had

56:16

we booked the holiday two months later,

56:18

we would never again be able to

56:21

seem up its 40, which is this

56:23

foundational text for me. So I'm essentially

56:25

taking my two children to Florida just

56:28

so I can take them to that

56:30

attraction. And that is Jim Henson's last

56:32

work before he died. He died basically

56:34

making that film, that 4D film at

56:37

Disney World. And if it closed the

56:39

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56:41

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