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Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I

2:55

want to know, are you a

2:57

Charlotte? Hi,

2:59

everybody. We are going to

3:01

do another episode of Give Me

3:04

Your Questions. So here

3:06

we go. The first thing that I

3:08

wanted to talk about was, this

3:10

is just kind of a bizarre thing

3:12

that has been happening since we started this

3:14

podcast. So in my mind, I

3:17

was like, yes, I'd love to rewatch

3:19

Sex in the City because I haven't ever

3:21

rewatched it, right? And that'll be

3:23

super interesting because it was a long,

3:25

long time ago, almost 30 years ago. And

3:27

I really had no idea that people

3:29

were going to be paying so much attention

3:31

to what I said. So there's been

3:33

these crazy headlines. And my mother has called

3:35

me and asked me about them because

3:37

her friends talked to her about them. And

3:39

it's just been a little bit overwhelming,

3:41

I have to say. And I just thought,

3:43

you know what, this is like 30

3:45

years ago, I did not think anybody was

3:47

going to care. I mean, I thought

3:49

the fans would care. And you

3:51

guys do care, thank goodness. And I

3:53

feel like you guys know the truth

3:55

of what I'm saying. But

3:57

sometimes I see these headlines and I

4:00

do get a little concerned about

4:02

people who maybe see the headlines, but

4:04

don't necessarily listen to the podcast

4:06

that they might not have the right

4:08

understanding of what I was saying.

4:10

So just some of the weird ones,

4:12

you know what I said? I

4:14

said the cult like rules. I

4:17

don't know that I said rules, but I

4:19

definitely said the word cult. And of course

4:21

that, of course, is a headline now that

4:23

the producers forced us to do things. So

4:25

not the case, you guys. Oh

4:27

my gosh. This was that Pat Field

4:29

have a very strong vision. And

4:31

that's what we love about Pat Field.

4:33

And that's why we hired Pat

4:35

Field. And my fashion sense was like,

4:37

uh, non -existent, right? So I was

4:39

just really happy to be told

4:41

what was cool and what was in.

4:43

It wasn't rules. The producers didn't

4:46

care one way or the other. I

4:48

mean, they cared that the show

4:50

looked great. But I mean, I don't

4:52

think they cared about the specifics

4:54

of, you know, How we made it

4:56

look great or whatever. They were

4:58

not involved. So there was no producers

5:00

making us do any rules or

5:02

whatever. Anyway, that's one. Then

5:04

the other is, you know, the

5:06

whole, you know, horrible mistake I

5:08

made about saying the word forced

5:10

when I was laughing about Michael

5:12

Patrick and me having to flash

5:14

my boob in the year 2000. So

5:19

I laugh now. I

5:21

don't ever want one of my good friends

5:23

to get hurt because of something stupid that

5:25

I said. And that's what I feel like

5:27

happened because I said a word that they

5:29

could take out of context and they did.

5:31

And you guys on the social media really

5:33

cheered me up. But once I went on

5:35

the Today Show because you were like, who

5:37

took Kristen out of context? And

5:39

I really appreciate that. And I don't know

5:41

if you're aware, but sometimes when you

5:43

look at comments, it can be dark and

5:45

sometimes it can really make you feel

5:48

so much better. And that's what you guys

5:50

do for me on my Instagram page

5:52

and on the podcast Instagram page. And thank

5:54

you. Keep it coming. Cause sometimes I

5:56

really, really need it. And then also people

5:58

still want to talk about this poor

6:00

actor. I lend money to and

6:02

again I really really just wanted to say

6:04

don't lend money to people that you're

6:06

involved with that was my only point like

6:08

it just changes the dynamic it makes

6:10

it kind of weird or it has the

6:12

potential at least to make it kind

6:14

of weird and I never will say this

6:16

person's name and I feel really badly

6:18

that I even opened that box up so

6:20

Those are the ones that come to

6:22

mind, but honestly, just in general, the whole

6:24

idea that people are like creating these

6:27

headlines is still, I'm just trying to get

6:29

my mind around it because I just

6:31

thought we could just talk freely, you know

6:33

what I mean? And I do feel

6:35

with you guys that are listening that I

6:37

am just talking freely, and I'm really

6:39

trying to keep that going. I just don't

6:41

want any of my friends to get

6:43

hurt, you know? Okay,

6:45

so that's the end of that. Now, we

6:47

have some other questions from people on

6:49

our, I think, from our Instagram. Is that

6:51

right? Easton is here. Hi, Kristen. This

6:54

is so fun. Thank you for having me

6:56

back. Thanks for coming back. Yeah,

6:58

these come in from Instagram, Carrier Pigeon.

7:00

Some people are just banging on the

7:03

door, yelling them. Fantastic. I'm

7:05

glad you were there to listen to what

7:07

they had say. I wrote everything down on my

7:09

steno pad. So we're

7:11

so excited for season three of In

7:13

Just Like That. I am part of

7:15

the horde that is so excited about

7:17

this show. you. That's nice. So a

7:19

lot of these questions are about In

7:21

Just Like That. Cool. This person says,

7:23

seeing the trailer got me so excited

7:25

for him, just like that. We see

7:27

you say odd to Aiden's postcard to

7:30

Carrie in the trailer. Do you support

7:32

Aiden's five -year rule and even Carrie for

7:34

waiting for him? I know. Isn't that

7:36

a funny little thing? Yeah, it's funny.

7:39

I do not support that,

7:41

me, Kristen. But Charlotte probably

7:43

does because, you know, for Charlotte,

7:45

she's just always optimistic. And

7:47

I think... know when you've had

7:50

this long history which Aiden, Carrie have

7:52

had and obviously Charlotte believes in

7:54

love and Charlotte was pro big as

7:56

we know but big is not.

7:58

Here anymore, sadly. And that was obviously

8:00

really hard for Charlotte also to

8:02

watch Carrie go through. So I think

8:05

that Charlotte would want Carrie to

8:07

have love. And if Carrie tells her

8:09

that that's with Aiden, I think

8:11

Charlotte is going to support that because

8:13

that's the kind of friend that

8:15

Charlotte is. And I support Charlotte being

8:18

that kind of friend. Me personally, I

8:21

feel like it's kind of

8:23

complicated and I'm not sure.

8:26

So let me just say

8:28

that. I really love this

8:30

season and I hope that

8:32

everybody else does and it's

8:34

super interesting writing like what

8:37

they wrote I think is

8:39

very good. I really really

8:41

look forward every week to

8:43

seeing what they wrote and watching

8:45

Sarah Jessica at the read -throughs

8:47

and I can't wait to

8:49

see the finished product. I haven't

8:51

seen anything yet other than

8:53

the trailer. Interesting. Yeah. I mean,

8:55

I've seen tiny bits and pieces when I had

8:57

to go do ADR, which is like, you know,

8:59

an additional dialogue recording. Thank you so much. Of

9:01

course. That was fast,

9:04

man. You're on it. We also call

9:06

it looping, right? Yes. So when I

9:08

had to go do that, I've seen

9:10

tiny bits and pieces like, but the

9:12

whole trailer was more than I have

9:14

seen. So I also was just like,

9:16

what? I've got to watch this again.

9:18

So that was exciting to get to

9:20

see other people watching it as well

9:22

and obviously weighing in with all of

9:24

their thoughts and opinions. And some of

9:26

them are very strong, but we love

9:28

that. Also, like, no offense, but we're

9:30

not 20, right? Do you know I

9:32

mean? Like, why? Like, five years. So

9:34

long time. Very long time. Very long

9:37

time to wait. So I agree, but I

9:39

also feel like it's very hard to

9:41

be, you know, you're never really in someone's

9:43

relationship, right? You don't really know. And

9:45

I also do feel like Carrie really believes

9:47

in love. She does. It's

9:50

Eastern's Chris Fallon. I say he's worn

9:52

out you guys. He's like, oh, God,

9:54

she does. Anyway, go ahead. This question

9:56

comes from me. I'm putting it

9:58

to the top of the pile. So

10:00

I really enjoyed Kerry's

10:02

podcast subplot as someone

10:04

in the business. That

10:07

was something I loved in season one.

10:09

I'm glad you loved it. Wasn't that a

10:11

nice studio? was a great studio. They

10:13

had real microphones. They are great. Oh, it

10:15

was for real set. Yeah, it

10:17

was awesome. So. You

10:19

know, spoiler alert, the podcast goes away.

10:21

Carrie starts her own at the

10:23

end of season two or some five.

10:26

It doesn't seem to last. Yeah. I

10:29

was curious. I don't know what the

10:31

timeline is in terms of you filming

10:33

if you had started your podcast yet.

10:35

No, I hadn't. We

10:37

were working when the idea came

10:39

to me and I was

10:41

really excited and also nervous. And

10:43

I mean, I might add

10:45

rightly so. Now

10:49

that we're in it, but I was

10:51

very much feeling like I needed to

10:53

go check in with Michael Patrick and

10:55

Sir Jessica about it. So

10:57

I talked to everyone on the phone.

10:59

I had a really great talk with

11:01

Amy Sugarman, our executive producer, and she's

11:03

a super fan and really blew me

11:05

off my feet, you know? But

11:08

then I thought I've really got to

11:10

make sure that everybody feels good about this

11:12

because I only want to do it.

11:14

if everyone feels good about this. So

11:17

I think I... Which one did I go

11:19

to first? I think I went to Sir Jessica

11:21

first. And she immediately was

11:23

on board and really supportive and

11:25

very cheerleader -y. Then I went

11:27

to Michael Patrick. He had done

11:29

last year the Writers Podcast that

11:32

was on the Max channel. The

11:34

Companion Podcast. Exactly. The Companion Podcast,

11:36

which was very much about the

11:38

writer's room and the writer's process. It

11:41

was great, but it was very compelling.

11:43

Yeah. Good. Thank you. Um, I mean, I

11:45

didn't want to like tread on his

11:47

area or whatever. He 100 % was on

11:49

it. Obviously we're rewatching Sex in the City

11:51

not and just like that, that we

11:53

do mention it obviously, but he came up

11:56

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11:58

Like two sentences into my explanation, you

12:00

know, very hardcore, uh, supporter and

12:02

Cynthia was very low key Cynthia and

12:04

I almost did a podcast many

12:06

years ago. Like right after

12:08

I know this is the third podcast that's

12:11

been brought to me and it was

12:13

just weird timing too I think and like

12:15

in some ways I just didn't have

12:17

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12:19

the Cynthia and I were gonna do

12:21

then Willie and I were gonna do which

12:23

was all before and Just like that

12:26

got green lit. Oh wow, and I think

12:28

it was different to think about Reflecting

12:30

back on the work without us also getting

12:32

to make fresh work. Yeah, and I

12:34

think somehow getting to reconvene and be together

12:37

gave me kind of the grounding to be able

12:39

to look back and not just feel like

12:41

I was living in the past. Yeah. Because that

12:43

had been my fear. But I don't feel

12:46

like that at all because obviously things are so

12:48

different. You know, it's it is like looking

12:50

at a time capsule. You know, it's really interesting.

12:52

So we were towards the end, we were

12:54

almost done. And I just went to them and

12:56

they were immediately on board. So then I

12:58

was like, OK, go, let's go. I

13:00

was wondering like if you had been doing

13:02

it and then like. There's

13:04

a podcast thing in the in the

13:06

script or something like well, that's not

13:09

how it's actually done, you know never

13:11

first of all I think Everyone at

13:13

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13:15

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13:17

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13:19

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13:21

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13:23

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13:25

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13:27

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13:29

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13:32

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13:34

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19:10

you ask this question, I'm sorry.

19:12

Who will not be named? Let's hear

19:14

it. Oh my God. It was mentioned

19:16

earlier in your episode with Michael Patrick

19:18

that the writers intentionally didn't have anyone

19:20

from the girls' families and outside

19:22

world come into the story, but for

19:24

fun, what do you think Charlotte's life

19:26

was like growing up? That's cute. Um,

19:29

I do think it also in this

19:31

finale, don't I mention something about sororities?

19:33

I mean, I think she went to

19:35

Smith. We know this. I think she

19:37

was in sororities. I think I say

19:39

it. Uh, we know she was a

19:41

teen polo model at the mall. Um,

19:44

I believe somewhere I feel

19:46

like maybe I made this up

19:48

that she grew up in

19:50

Connecticut. Um, which

19:52

I think makes sense. I don't

19:54

know if I made it up Connecticut. Okay. Are

19:56

you are you googling? I'm googling. Have a

19:59

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20:02

Yeah. Really? Raised

20:04

in Connecticut. I don't know the exact city

20:06

or township. Yeah. Cause I don't think I

20:08

know. So I'm not surprised that Google doesn't

20:10

know if I don't know. Here

20:12

we go. Early life. We should have gotten a

20:14

young Charlotte show on HBO. That should have happened.

20:19

Wealthy family in Connecticut. She's a member of

20:21

Kappa Kappa Gamma Sorority. Oh my gosh. Let's

20:24

see. She's

20:26

the newest friend of the group. That is

20:28

true because they have a flashback to the

20:30

80s and I'm not there. That's when Carrie

20:32

wears that pink cowboy hat. Yeah,

20:35

they're at some kind of a, like it

20:37

looks like a college party, but I'm

20:39

not there. I don't know if they're in

20:41

college or not, but yeah. In the

20:43

second movie, they confirmed that you met Carrie

20:45

in 1987. Oh. Well, okay,

20:47

only at the most a year

20:49

before Samantha. Okay. Now now things

20:51

are getting kind of iffy meshed

20:53

up Yeah, but that means there's

20:55

a blank slate for what early

20:57

I think we've now you know

20:59

done our due diligence on trying

21:01

to figure out the roots of

21:03

Charlotte and you know that has

21:06

been like a side thing of

21:08

the podcast that has really been

21:10

so helpful for me because We've

21:12

gotten confirmation from Candace Bushnell that she

21:14

was not based on anyone in particular. We've

21:16

gotten confirmation from Michael Patrick that when he

21:18

first got there, he thought, I don't know how

21:20

to write for that character. I mean, we've

21:22

gotten a lot of interesting confirmations of what I

21:25

was feeling at the time, which was that

21:27

she didn't have kind of the same. uh

21:29

fleshed out storylines that the others

21:31

had and I had a lot of

21:33

anxiety about that and now I

21:36

have a lot less anxiety obviously 30

21:38

years later but also because now

21:40

I know that no that was all

21:42

actually real and they just created

21:44

me as we went which what a

21:46

lucky person I am you know

21:48

what I'm saying like what a fantastic

21:50

situation to find yourself in slightly

21:52

scary at the time, because when you've been

21:54

an out of work actor for like roughly

21:56

a decade, you know, let

21:58

little bit less than a decade, you know,

22:00

you're very vulnerable about it all, right? And

22:03

you want to make sure you have a

22:05

place, a place in this thing that you

22:07

want to be a part of, which I

22:09

did feel on the set, right? Yeah. But

22:11

when I would go home and think about

22:13

like, who is Charlotte? I don't know, because

22:15

they didn't know. You know, yeah. So, you

22:17

know, you're kind of making it up as

22:19

you go. And then as we found out

22:21

from Jenny Bix, Jenny Bix grew up on

22:24

the Upper East Side. So when Jenny Bix

22:26

came, I feel like Charlotte got a lot

22:28

more kind of depth and grounding in the

22:30

world that we were in because Jenny brought

22:32

that. Yeah. I was thinking about as an

22:34

actor, you obviously want more as much information

22:36

as possible about the character. But like, if

22:38

you get like a. A Bible

22:40

or something of their whole entire life that

22:42

must be intimidating too to make sure

22:45

you well first of all it never happens

22:47

Second of all I mean I do

22:49

know actors that create that Bible and they

22:51

might depending on the situation They might

22:53

create it by themselves or they might create

22:55

it with an acting teacher acting coach

22:57

Or if they're really close to the showrunner

23:00

or the writers they might create it

23:02

together But it's it's it's a rare thing

23:04

and I think with us. I

23:06

mean I don't think We'll ask Sarah

23:08

Jessica if she did that. I don't

23:10

think she did that, but I think

23:12

that Sarah Jessica already, because she was

23:14

a New Yorker and she really was

23:16

an it girl. She was a downtown

23:18

it girl, which was a little bit

23:20

different than Candice's version of the it

23:22

girl, but she knew kind of the,

23:24

the vibe. You don't what I'm saying.

23:26

She knew who these people were just

23:28

from being in the Manhattan. Like

23:31

nightlife, you know the I don't know if

23:33

she would describe it that way But you don't

23:35

we'll ask her when we see her next

23:37

week But I think that she already had such

23:39

a grounded sense of who they were and

23:41

how they dress and what they did I So

23:43

didn't have any of that like I had

23:45

lived in New York already, but I was an

23:48

out -of -work actor waitress Very very different life.

23:50

Yeah, very very different life. So part of me

23:52

I was just like how do I do

23:54

this? What do I do? What do I do?

23:56

And in my mind and this is what

23:58

you do as an actor you Create

24:00

the backstory that you need that helps you

24:03

to understand who they were. So as I

24:05

think I've said, I would just go up

24:07

to the Upper East Side and I would

24:09

just walk around the shops, walk up and

24:11

down Madison Avenue and look at the women

24:13

and look at their hair. Most of them

24:15

had baby carriages. Some of them didn't. I'd

24:17

look at their coats. I'd look at their

24:19

bags and try to look at how they

24:21

walked and talked and if they were talking

24:23

to somebody. You know, you're trying to pick

24:25

up. details and then you're making the facts

24:27

up in your mind to back up those

24:29

details. Did that make sense? Yes, and I'm

24:31

picturing you like walking over down. with

24:34

like a notebook or something. It

24:36

seems like something Charlotte would do. I

24:39

didn't have a notebook because I'm a

24:41

visual memorizer. So I would have snapshots. I

24:43

have snapshots when I tell you about

24:45

it. Still in my mind of what

24:47

I saw then, which is why I was trying to

24:49

get her to grow her hair out and they had

24:51

made me cut it. But you can see the progression

24:53

during the first season. I'm like, look, it's getting better.

24:55

It's getting better. It's almost to the place I want

24:57

it. This next

24:59

question I love because I

25:01

my New York I

25:04

grew up on the West Coast and my

25:06

New York, like, knowledge was Sex and the

25:08

City and Seinfeld. That was it. You know?

25:11

And so different. So different. But I was

25:13

like, oh, Seinfeld's little cartoon version, Sex

25:15

and the City's what it's really like. Wow.

25:17

This question is... I'm so sorry. Do

25:19

you think Sex and the City shows a

25:21

realistic depiction of life in Manhattan? No,

25:23

no, unfortunately, no. I mean, I think it

25:25

did for this tiny group of women,

25:27

right? Because it was based on some real

25:29

people. And as Candace told us, at

25:31

one point, when she was writing the column,

25:33

Sex in the City, that was in

25:35

the New York Observer, she was living in

25:38

a doorman building. So she was obviously

25:40

doing well. I mean, I didn't have the

25:42

thought to ask her like, were your

25:44

parents helping you or whatever. I mean, I

25:46

think it's possible, right? I don't

25:48

know that or not to be true. But I

25:50

do think that a lot of these people came

25:53

from generational wealth and were thus

25:55

at a certain point in New

25:57

York society that would come with

25:59

generational wealth. But we don't really

26:01

say that in the show either,

26:03

you know? It's interesting. kind

26:07

of like I don't have a doubt that something

26:09

can kind of for her life. Right. Well, she has

26:11

her own PR firm. Right. And Miranda's a lawyer. Trying

26:14

to be a partner. Yeah. Carries the baffling one.

26:17

Well, Carries the baffling one and

26:19

this will become an issue as

26:21

we know, right? Carries the baffling

26:23

one. And Charlotte, I do think

26:25

that in my mind, she was

26:27

supported by her parents, you know,

26:29

because all of, well, at the

26:31

time at least, the beautiful young girls

26:33

who are working at the galleries, we're all

26:35

supported by the parents. Because you

26:37

couldn't really be like kind of an

26:39

assistant at an art gallery and make

26:41

a living. Like it's a tough kind

26:44

of a job. But yeah, there are

26:46

still gorgeous young people, men and women

26:48

who are doing that. And I don't

26:50

know how that we should call them

26:52

up. I should go to some art

26:54

galleries next time in New York, pass

26:56

them. I should do some research. But

26:59

yeah, I think that there is an

27:01

assumption that parents were helping or there

27:03

was trust funds or something. Yeah.

27:05

Yeah. But Charlie does never mention a

27:07

trust fund, which I find interesting because I

27:09

always thought there was like some money,

27:11

but not a lot of money because once

27:13

we get to the trade era, you

27:16

know, obviously she wants that

27:18

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27:20

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27:22

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do you think Charlotte's attachment style

32:16

is and there's a list because

32:19

my first thing I thought was

32:21

she's secure secure attachment because that's

32:23

definitely where she's at now with

32:25

Harry, but then I was like

32:29

Yeah, maybe not. Then isn't there one that's

32:31

like anxious attachment? Anxious preoccupied attachment. I

32:34

think probably that. That's what I would guess

32:36

too. Yeah. A style where people have

32:38

a fear of abandonment and a constant need

32:40

for reassurance. Right, but that makes it

32:42

sound so awful, but I just really think

32:44

that's like human normalness. I

32:47

don't know, maybe that's saying a lot about me.

32:49

I don't know. I just feel like people, especially

32:51

when you're younger, you know, like, cause

32:53

obviously, in the first season, Charlotte very

32:55

much like believes in love and wants

32:57

to get married and she puts that

32:59

right out there. But she's also kind

33:01

of choosy in an interesting way. But

33:04

I do feel

33:07

like she definitely wants

33:09

to know, you

33:11

know, like wants to

33:13

be attached and wants affirmation of

33:15

that. Yeah. I

33:17

think hard to be objective sometimes.

33:21

It is. This

33:23

question here, what is the process like prior

33:25

to shooting an episode with fittings and picking

33:27

out the looks for the episodes? Oh, yeah,

33:30

it is a process. Let me tell you,

33:32

first of all, as I think you know,

33:34

we're very, very, very spoiled. We

33:36

have just the most incredible

33:38

costume department and costume designers, Molly

33:40

Rogers, who I had on.

33:42

That was so much fun. And

33:45

Danny Santiago works with her. He's

33:47

also amazing. He has like a vintage

33:50

World at his fingertips that you would

33:52

not believe we have many and many

33:54

other people and all through the show

33:56

We had so many people helping and

33:58

eventually so many designers lending us things

34:00

which was great the only The only

34:02

downside is that we spend a lot

34:04

of times in fittings like like a

34:07

lot like a lot a lot a

34:09

lot like hours and hours I don't

34:11

know like I think I've had an

34:13

eight hour fitting. Oh, yeah, it's fine

34:15

I mean it's part of the job

34:17

and you know, luckily they really make

34:19

it fun I mean, if you were

34:21

trying to do eight hours of like

34:23

suits because you were a lawyer, that

34:25

would be super boring. But because we

34:27

have this like full fantasy world that

34:29

we're creating, I mean, I am my

34:31

own character within that fantasy world, right? So

34:33

sometimes I walk in the other character, they, they

34:35

do it by areas, right? So they'll like,

34:37

they'll be a LTW character, uh, I'll, and I'll

34:39

walk down that aisle and be like, I

34:42

want all this stuff. I can't have that stuff.

34:44

I can't even pull that stuff off. I

34:46

mean, she does it and she does it so

34:48

beautifully, but it's really fun to walk down

34:50

there. Or sometimes I'll go and carry Zyle because

34:52

we have the same size put. Oh,

34:54

trivia. Yes, we'll be like,

34:56

does she have these slotted for an

34:59

outfit yet? And they'll be like, get out

35:01

of there, Kristen. You

35:04

know, it's fun. And then sometimes

35:06

there were times in the past where

35:08

at the end of the season

35:10

I would take home some of Miranda's

35:12

clothes because they were like really

35:14

wearable every day. Yeah, they look super

35:16

comfy. Totally super comfy. Nice fabrics,

35:18

good colors, turtlenecks and things. I still

35:20

wear some of them. But

35:23

yeah, Samantha's clothes couldn't pull those off either.

35:26

But it is fun, but it's a lot

35:28

of work. I remember also when we were

35:30

doing the show, there was never any time

35:32

for fittings because we were working so hard

35:34

in such long hours. And I do remember,

35:36

I might've mentioned this with Molly, that one

35:38

time when I rapped at 2 a .m., they

35:40

said, you have to go to your

35:42

fitting. And I was like, ha, ha, ha. And they're like,

35:45

no, no, you have to go to fitting. And I

35:47

was like, you guys, oh, the

35:49

pain. But there was just no other

35:51

time to do it. So we

35:53

did it. We did it. During the

35:55

fittings, It like the the

35:57

wardrobe people are there. I assume

35:59

there's a producer someone there. No Who

36:01

is giving the like Who's giving

36:03

the feedback? I guess on what you're

36:05

gonna use is it like do

36:07

you have any how much say do

36:10

you have as the actor like

36:12

oh? I really like this. I think

36:14

in our world. We have a

36:16

lot of say yeah I

36:18

mean, as we have for a long

36:20

time, you know, I mean, I've always said

36:22

that we've always been very involved in

36:24

all of it. And I have felt that

36:26

even when we had no title, you

36:28

know, like now we're executive producers of and

36:30

just like that, but we used to

36:32

not have any title, but it didn't mean

36:34

that we weren't involved. Michael Patrick would

36:36

sit us down before the season started and

36:38

run through everything with us and say,

36:40

what do you think? Like he did not

36:42

have to do that. And he did

36:44

that, which is part of the reason that

36:46

we have the relationship that we do

36:48

is that I really felt that we were

36:50

respected and considered all the time but

36:52

with the clothes I think so Pat was

36:54

very strong right like she was very

36:56

strong and occasionally she would try to talk

36:58

me into things that I was like

37:00

I just do not think Charlotte would wear

37:03

this. And she would try for weeks,

37:05

okay? Sometimes she'd go over my head to

37:07

Darren. I'd be like, Darren, she can't

37:09

wear it. It just doesn't make sense. You

37:11

know, cause Pat's very fanciful and doesn't

37:13

really care about real life, you know, and

37:15

that's kind of the joy. But also

37:17

sometimes if you're playing Charlotte, you kind of

37:19

gotta care about real life a little

37:21

bit, a little bit. But, but. Often sometimes

37:23

too she'd try she'd say like look

37:25

at this and you'd look at me be

37:27

like God I know and then like

37:29

over time She'd wear you down. You know

37:31

what I mean, but it's always a

37:33

group decision in the fittings now We also

37:35

photograph everything and we also you know,

37:37

we're going in the script order. So like

37:39

this is true for all production. I

37:41

think you have the script Someone

37:43

in the costume department has done

37:45

a breakdown. So every scene is

37:47

listed with a description. Um,

37:50

you know, they're at the coffee

37:52

shop. Uh, Charlotte says she's come from

37:54

work, something like that, something very

37:56

practical, like so that you know, um,

37:58

if there's something that affects her

38:00

clothing in the scene, right? Then.

38:03

You know, they will have already thought about,

38:05

let's say it's a coffee shop scene.

38:07

Those are the hardest because everyone's in it,

38:09

right? Yeah. So they have to think

38:11

about the colors and the textures and the

38:14

daytime or the nighttime or the cold

38:16

or the heat. Theoretically, it might not match

38:18

the actual real cold and the heat

38:20

and the real temperatures out in the world,

38:22

right? But in the story, what season

38:24

is it? And so they'll have an idea.

38:26

Maybe they've done Cynthia's fitting already, but

38:28

they haven't done Sir Jessica's fitting and they

38:30

haven't done Nicole's and they maybe have

38:32

done Serita's, right? They can show you a

38:34

picture. Oh, Serita's wearing, you know, cream

38:36

silk. Cynthia's wearing these bold

38:38

stripes. So we were thinking for

38:40

you, they'll have pre -thought out

38:43

ideas. So they'll have maybe

38:45

like 10 things they're like. Separates

38:47

or a dress or pants or whatever and they'll

38:49

say like oh this might be a great time

38:52

to wear some pants You know Charlotte doesn't wear

38:54

a ton of pants, right? Oh, this might be

38:56

a great time to wear some pants because blah

38:58

blah blah whatever reason Or we found this amazing

39:00

jumpsuit or whatever it is, right? So they have

39:02

some ideas and then you pick the one you

39:04

like the best you tried on it might not

39:06

fit it might be a color that doesn't work

39:08

on you whatever you move on to the next

39:11

or maybe you think oh this is so amazing

39:13

let's put it at this dinner scene which is

39:15

a little bit more glamorous and this outfit is

39:17

a little you know it's like this and then

39:19

eventually once you get your picks for each thing

39:21

slotted in They've photographed everything. They've listed everything. Usually

39:23

almost everything gets to be altered, which I think

39:25

is an important point or super spoiled. But that's

39:27

why it all fits us. It's not like if

39:30

we went to the store and pulled things off

39:32

the shelves that they would fit us like that,

39:34

it would not be true. At least for me,

39:36

I can only speak for myself. But

39:38

our tailoring department

39:40

is unbelievably talented.

39:43

They do so much work. Adrienne, thank

39:45

you. So then their pictures

39:47

slotted in and they make a book.

39:49

So for each scene, let's say that all

39:51

four of us or five of us

39:53

are in a scene, they'll be every one's

39:55

picture, so you see them together. And

39:58

then let's say it's like Harry and Charlotte, they'll

40:00

have a picture of Evan and I in

40:02

the outfits. Then Michael Patrick,

40:04

or whoever's directing, and

40:06

Michael Patrick also, because he's executive producer, will

40:08

look at it and approve it. Because

40:10

maybe the director had a vision, like

40:13

when Cynthia directed. Cynthia directed and

40:15

I can't remember if we talked about

40:17

this or not Cynthia directed I

40:19

want to say the second season when

40:21

she directed and She did this

40:23

the really funny thing where I was

40:25

in my fitting And she just

40:27

walked by the door because our we

40:29

are production offices are upstairs and

40:31

our fitting is in the second floor

40:33

She walked by the door and

40:35

she was like oh you're in here

40:37

and I was like yes So

40:40

she she was like let's see Let's

40:42

see it. I was like, okay.

40:44

And she said, you know, in this

40:46

particular scene, I just really pictured

40:48

you like a fawn. And I was

40:50

like, you mean like, like a

40:52

deer? Yes,

40:55

like, you know, like a

40:58

doe -eyed fawn. I was

41:00

like, okay. Like

41:07

what does that mean? What does

41:09

that mean when she left the

41:11

room and we got out like

41:13

a kind of a And I

41:16

pulled my hair back and I

41:18

kind of put on really long

41:20

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41:22

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41:24

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