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Armstrong and Getty. I

3:03

vaccinated all my kids. I believe

3:05

vaccines are one of the modern

3:07

miracles beyond all pale. The Speckled

3:09

Monster is a great book about

3:11

the introduction of the smallpox vaccine

3:13

in 1720 into our country. All

3:15

miracles. But I'm not a

3:17

one -size -fits -all. It's not all or nothing. I

3:19

chose to wait on my hepatitis B vaccine

3:21

and we did it when they went to

3:23

school. Does that make me an awful person?

3:25

Does that make me an anti -vaxxer because

3:27

I questioned the government dictate of whether I

3:29

do it and I'm not speaking for anybody

3:31

else. I'm only speaking for myself. But for

3:33

goodness sakes, let's have an honest debate about

3:35

these things. Senator Rand Paul

3:38

of Kentucky, who's an ophthalmologist,

3:40

his actual medical professional, weighing

3:42

in. at the

3:44

RFK Jr. hearing yesterday. And

3:47

you heard the main point

3:49

of his screed there at the

3:51

end, and you'll hear it more,

3:53

the idea that can we stop

3:55

insisting we must all be

3:57

of lockstep on some of these

4:00

difficult questions? We have to have

4:02

an atmosphere of honest debate.

4:04

And he's absolutely right. Anything

4:06

else to add or shall we plunge on? Let's

4:09

hit it. Biden's

4:11

FAA exceeded its goal in fiscal

4:13

year. Hello, Michael. The

4:16

COVID vaccine. If you ask

4:18

me my opinion, there were reporters running

4:20

up and down the hall and they

4:22

say, you still anti -vaccine. No, I'm

4:24

pro -vaccine, but on the COVID vaccine and

4:26

on the COVID illness, there was a

4:28

thousandfold or more difference between the elderly

4:30

and children. If you don't acknowledge that,

4:33

You're committing malpractice. You're showing your ignorance.

4:35

If you say a six -month -old must

4:37

be mandated to get it, the science

4:39

is not there. So all this blather

4:41

about the science is this and the

4:43

science is that. No, it doesn't. The

4:45

science actually shows that no healthy

4:47

child in America died from COVID.

4:50

Look it up. No healthy child

4:52

died from COVID. An amazing

4:54

stat, given the fact

4:56

that we had yellow caution

4:58

tape around playground

5:00

structures. And

5:02

little kids wearing masks. Good Lord. We

5:04

haven't even talked about that part

5:07

of it. So there was a school

5:09

being closed and the parks being

5:11

closed and all that sort of stuff.

5:13

Poor little kids running around with

5:15

masks on. Can't see, you know, the

5:17

other kids' faces or whatever for

5:19

no reason. Right. Even

5:21

when that became clear because of

5:23

Trump derangement syndrome. Absolutely

5:25

unforgivable. Rand Paul rolls on. So

5:27

if you ask me my advice as a

5:29

physician, if you were 65 or over or

5:31

overweight and some other conditions, I would have

5:33

said, hell yes, I'd take the COVID vaccine.

5:35

The risks of the disease were real and

5:37

much greater than the vaccine. But if you

5:39

ask me, should my healthy six months, I'll

5:42

get it. See these are the

5:44

nuances you're unwilling to talk about because there's

5:46

such a belief in submission Submit to the government

5:48

do what you're told there is no discussion.

5:50

There ought to be a debate You're not going

5:52

to let him have the debate because you're

5:54

just going to criticize and say it is this

5:56

and admit to it Or we're not going

5:58

to point you but it's more complicated than that

6:00

and this is why people distrust government

6:02

because you're unwilling to have these conversations and

6:04

I go home ask your Democrat young

6:06

mothers your Republican young mothers if they're vaccinating

6:09

a kid for hepatitis B and they're

6:11

like Well, do I have to do it

6:13

on day one as this precious little

6:15

baby? Is there science to say you shouldn't

6:17

do it? Probably not, but it's my

6:19

kid. You know, it's like,

6:21

there isn't clear cut science saying

6:23

not to. I need to

6:25

start saying nuances instead of nuance.

6:27

Please don't, please don't do that. He

6:30

pointed out earlier in his screen,

6:32

I guess it was edited out that

6:34

hepatitis B is generally spread through

6:36

drug use, needle drugs and sexual. You're

6:38

making an assumption that my six

6:40

month old is not a smack addict.

6:43

having unprotected sex with randos the

6:45

idea that a one -day -old kid needs

6:47

that vaccine then it's you know

6:49

if i'm wrong about this i will

6:51

manfully announce it and apologize but

6:53

i suspect very very strongly that the

6:56

idea is we will get much

6:58

higher compliance if we have the hep

7:00

b vaccine part of the battery

7:02

of things that you give the kid

7:04

in the hospital while the kid

7:06

is there And,

7:08

you know, if we let people wait until

7:11

it's actually necessary, we'll get lower compliance

7:13

and more people get sick and hurt and

7:15

die and the rest of it. Again,

7:17

maybe it's sort of kind of well -meaning,

7:19

but I think we're all sick of that

7:21

sort of paternalism and dishonesty to get

7:23

us to comply. Rolling

7:26

along. But on autism... There's no

7:28

good science of anything to show what

7:30

causes autism. We don't know. It's

7:32

a profound disease. I know many moms

7:34

here and dads who have kids

7:36

of autism know them personally. I've met

7:38

their kids. But the thing

7:41

is is they saw their kids developing completely

7:43

normal. Maybe speaking a hundred words go

7:45

to no words. at about 15 months of

7:47

age. Now, there isn't proof. There isn't

7:49

proof that the vaccines cause it. That's true.

7:51

There isn't proof that it caused it.

7:53

But we don't know what causes it yet.

7:55

So should we be at least open -minded?

7:57

We take 72 vaccines. Could

7:59

be? I don't know. But we shouldn't just close

8:01

the door and say, we're no longer because we

8:04

believe so much in submission. We're not going to

8:06

have an open mind to study these things. And

8:08

so it's sort of this crazy notion.

8:11

I have found

8:13

no compelling evidence

8:15

that, indeed, autism

8:17

is caused by

8:20

inoculations, vaccines. On

8:22

the other hand, as Rand Paul makes

8:24

clear again, that's yet another example

8:26

of if we even have an honest

8:28

debate and look at this and

8:30

have some more studies and all in

8:32

an open way, we will

8:34

have lower compliance rates. It's

8:36

all about compliance. And

8:38

again, with A

8:41

few exceptions, maybe, I think

8:43

complying with a lot of the

8:45

vaccine policies is a really,

8:47

really good idea. But the

8:50

days of being able to just shout

8:52

to the sheeple what they have to

8:54

do and they'll all line up and

8:56

do it, even though you're presenting it

8:58

dishonestly, there's so much information out there.

9:00

They can't get away with it anymore.

9:02

Are there 72 that your kid has

9:05

to get to go to school now?

9:07

I've seen that repeatedly. I don't know

9:09

that that's true. If it's half that

9:11

many, that's a lot. Total doses, perhaps,

9:13

yeah. including boosters you know i'm so

9:15

cynical about government's just uh... particularly pre

9:18

-covid we paid so little attention to

9:20

this why would i believe that somebody

9:22

somewhere doesn't think hey you know what

9:24

you get this on the mandated list

9:26

that's worth five billion dollars how do

9:28

we get that through whatever committee to

9:30

get you know adding one more when

9:33

there's already 71 or 36 or whatever

9:35

shots adding one more that nobody's paying

9:37

any attention to you just take your

9:39

kid to the doctor and they tell

9:41

you you need this group of injections

9:43

to go to first grade and everybody

9:45

just says okay there's so much money

9:48

involved i find it hard to believe

9:50

that there's zero um malfeasance going on

9:52

yeah there's the very very little profit

9:54

in vaccines but times a billion yeah

9:56

maybe it becomes significant the you know

9:58

the aspect of it that That

10:01

I think is is likely

10:03

well, I don't have any proof

10:05

This is happening but the

10:07

government and its mandates particularly in

10:09

the wake of COVID I

10:11

think deserve whatever is the opposite

10:13

of the benefit of the

10:15

doubt if Somebody came to me

10:17

and showed me the secret

10:20

memo that said look if we

10:22

get 98 % compliance with this

10:24

vaccine we will prevent 10 ,000

10:26

deaths a year It's gonna

10:28

result in about a thousand kids

10:30

getting being autistic. But

10:32

as a net gain, it's

10:34

it's a good. So we're

10:36

just going to be quiet

10:38

about the autism stuff. And

10:40

I don't actually believe that's

10:42

happening. But if you

10:44

do, because of what you've

10:47

observed from the government, I

10:49

can't call you crazy. Right.

10:52

There's no possible way they know

10:54

what the long term effect of

10:56

the combination of some of these vaccines

10:59

are. because they haven't around long

11:01

enough. Right. More of

11:03

the Randy man. Schizophrenia

11:05

I would put in the same notion.

11:07

You have a kid who's completely normal

11:09

to 18 or 19 and their brain

11:11

goes haywire. How does that happen? It's

11:13

the most bizarre disease. Shouldn't we be

11:16

open? Could it be our food? It

11:18

might be vaccines, it might be our

11:20

food, but autism is more common. I

11:23

don't know about the schizophrenia statistics, but

11:25

autism is more common. Shouldn't we want

11:27

to be open -minded? Instead, we're so

11:29

close -minded and we're so consensus -driven that

11:31

the science says this. Well, science doesn't

11:33

say anything. Science is a dispute. In

11:36

10 years from now, we could all be wrong. Roll

11:38

on, Curly. Roll on. 20 years ago they

11:40

did this enormous study and they said, everybody over

11:43

50 should take an aspirin. I thought, well,

11:45

that's a pretty good idea. It makes sense. But

11:47

you know what? 20 years later, they measured

11:49

it. And they found if you had no heart

11:51

disease and you were taking aspirin, your chance

11:53

of dying from a brain bleed or from a

11:55

stomach bleed were greater than the risk of

11:57

heart disease. you have heart disease? They still say,

11:59

take an aspirin. If you don't, they've changed

12:01

your mind 20 years later. But would

12:03

you have all said I was crazy and I

12:05

should no longer be in public discourse if I

12:07

had said 20 years ago? I don't feel like

12:09

taking an aspirin. I ride my bike all the

12:12

time. I'm afraid I might hit my head. But

12:14

that's what country's about, what this sentence is about.

12:16

That's a good example. Yeah.

12:18

Yeah, it is. One final clip. So

12:20

just ask you to look at the larger

12:22

picture and Give the guy a break

12:24

who says, I just want to follow the

12:26

science where it leads without presupposition. I

12:29

think really what we have up here is

12:31

presupposition. You've already concluded. It's absolute that

12:33

autism isn't caused by it. We don't know

12:35

what causes autism, so we should be

12:37

more humble in what we say. Sorry,

12:39

I didn't get to a question. That

12:45

doesn't make me say, therefore, Robert

12:47

F. Kennedy, Jr. But

12:51

You can't deny that we are

12:54

openly having some of these conversations

12:56

thanks to RFK jr And then

12:58

his advocacy he's got some really

13:00

troubling conflicts of interest and he's

13:02

half a con man if you

13:04

ask me but Still dot dot

13:06

dot knows how to turn lemons

13:08

into lemonade you find a dead

13:11

bear What do you do you

13:13

just leave it there you bury

13:15

it? No, you come up with

13:17

a hilarious prank Not to

13:19

mention the underrated bringing a whales

13:21

head home Chainsawing it off the

13:23

whale and then strapping it to

13:25

the roof of your car as

13:28

its juices drip down the window

13:30

Okay, we got on a topic

13:32

earlier. We need to Fix when

13:34

we come back as we finish

13:36

strong with the is flatulence speech.

13:38

I I vote no I don't

13:40

think it has first amendment protections It

13:43

is unmistakably speech in this

13:45

instance and I believe that

13:47

Thomas Jefferson would agree with

13:49

me. Certainly Ben Franklin, who's

13:51

a big fan of flatulence.

14:02

I am thinking

14:05

about buying the

14:07

Apple Vision Pro

14:09

VR headset. For

14:11

myself for my birthday What

14:13

sold me on what maybe

14:15

own it this time around

14:17

is the the update that

14:19

Apple just did that I've

14:21

been reading about so you

14:23

can take VR 3d spatial

14:25

photos now with your phone

14:27

or you can take them

14:29

with the VR and then

14:31

when you look at those

14:34

photos, it's almost disturbing As

14:37

we all know there's something goes on

14:39

with it with a 2d photo I mean,

14:41

it's nice to look at a picture

14:43

of your kids fifth birthday party and now

14:45

they're you know College kids. It's cool

14:47

to have that picture But there's something that's

14:50

lost with the 2d -ness of it or

14:52

something like that the photos in the

14:54

VR headset are as if you're sitting there

14:56

and it It's it screws with your

14:58

head man. It really does but I guess

15:00

with the new technology the latest technology

15:02

They do a pretty good job of that

15:04

with all your old photos from your

15:06

phone of turning it into 3d and having

15:09

the feeling of you're actually there i

15:11

don't even know if i can handle it

15:13

emotionally to to to look at some

15:15

of those photos to be back in the

15:17

room when they're born or their second

15:19

birthday party or the videos oh my god

15:21

i don't even know if i could

15:23

handle it i don't know if human beings

15:25

can handle it can you handle being

15:28

right back in that moment where it completely

15:30

fools your brain like you're there oh

15:32

my god my kids are two again i

15:34

just Just thinking about

15:36

it gives me the gets me

15:38

all excited is just so I'm

15:40

gonna try that out and see

15:42

what that's like Yeah, that's a

15:44

really intriguing question though cuz you

15:46

know Something that left in my

15:48

mind immediately was there were no

15:50

photographs at all until fairly recently

15:52

and I mean a tenth of

15:54

a blink of an eye on

15:56

the evolutionary scale How far back

15:58

do you have to go really

16:00

anything that happened Anything more recent

16:02

than 200 years ago is obviously

16:04

clearly, indisputably, something we're not designed

16:07

for. It might be harmless or

16:09

it might be good. I

16:11

mean, like, antibiotics, for instance.

16:13

Thumbs up on antibiotics. Wow,

16:15

you're not RFK Junior. But

16:17

no, the idea of pictures of

16:20

your kids so you can

16:22

permanently remember how they looked at

16:24

a certain age is something

16:26

that was unknown on Earth until

16:28

very, very recently. Sure. How

16:32

about if you can guess how kind of you

16:34

can be there? I don't know. I don't know if

16:36

we're built that way. Uh, I Saw

16:38

an example when I did the the

16:40

demonstration at the Apple store of a

16:42

kid's birthday party Recorded on that device

16:45

and it was like I was sitting

16:47

at that birthday party. Yeah, and man.

16:49

Ah, you're you're wedding you're you're people

16:51

who people have passed mom and dad

16:53

You know no longer alive and here

16:55

you are sitting at the dinner table

16:57

Talk you can't talk to them obviously,

16:59

but it's it's as if for your

17:02

brain that it's real Right, so I

17:04

was reading about the reviews before I

17:06

dropped a fair amount of money on

17:08

this thing and everything like that and

17:10

there was a there was a link

17:12

on there about the advances they've made

17:14

in what do you guess? Pornography

17:17

on the VR thing and I had

17:19

to click on that and I almost

17:21

wish I hadn't now I haven't Seen

17:24

what that would be like in a

17:26

vision pro and I won't because I'm

17:28

not gonna try that I don't want

17:30

it on my computer. I don't want

17:32

to link to whatever site you get

17:34

it, but I was looking at the

17:36

videos and it and Since I've had

17:39

the experience of the sitting at the

17:41

kids birthday party or sitting by the

17:43

lake and knowing how 100 % real

17:45

that was looking at the VR video

17:47

even in 2d and thinking oh my

17:49

god If that was in full 3d

17:51

like I'm in the room, how would

17:54

any man ever leave their house? I

17:56

mean, seriously, it's going to

17:58

be... Take a break on

18:00

Sunday afternoons to watch football.

18:03

We already have a problem

18:05

with internet porn? Yes. I'm

18:08

asking, is the human brain

18:10

ready to, you know, relive your

18:12

kid's two -year -old birthday party?

18:15

Is the human brain ready to

18:17

be completely fooled? Completely

18:19

fooled by a

18:21

sexual interaction? No, no

18:23

is the answer to your

18:25

question. No, it will decimate humankind

18:27

or whatever part of it

18:29

has that Oh God, yeah

18:31

We we have Invented pleasures.

18:33

We are not meant to

18:36

have as human beings that

18:38

we can't handle that a

18:40

lot of people can't hand

18:42

yeah, um Yeah, yeah, yeah,

18:44

it will it will do

18:46

us in yeah, we're into

18:48

bring the world territory there

18:50

Yeah, whether you know us

18:52

on an individual level or

18:54

as a civilization or as

18:57

a species it sits without

18:59

a question not good because

19:01

something can exist doesn't make

19:03

it good. I mean

19:05

people need to get through that just because

19:07

the society is doing something just because

19:09

your next door neighbors are doing something just

19:11

because on the internet people say this

19:13

is cool does not in any way make

19:15

any of it cool. You

19:18

really you know, I'm sure there's

19:20

some brilliant philosopher who's been

19:22

more eloquent on this than me

19:24

But you need to decide

19:26

what sort of life you want

19:28

to live Independent of what

19:30

you're being told by people making

19:32

money Or telling you what

19:35

your lifestyle should be or you

19:37

will be swept up by

19:39

people who do not have your

19:41

best interest in mind and

19:43

you will crash on the rocks

19:45

of pleasure crash

19:48

on the rocks of pleasure i think

19:50

a lot of people would sign up

19:52

for that even as described the way

19:54

it was just described as a rough

19:56

draft i'd hate for the metaphor police

19:58

to come and arrest me for mixing

20:01

too many of them together but Come

20:10

on, why is this taking so

20:12

long? This thing is ancient. Still

20:14

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23:06

Have some interesting sleep

23:08

stats for you.

23:10

Everybody sleeps or talks

23:13

about sleep, it

23:15

seems. Everybody does sleep.

23:17

It does seem everybody talks about

23:19

sleep. I am having a, I

23:22

now officially called a crisis, a sleep crisis for

23:24

the first time in my life. So I got

23:26

to spend some time looking into figuring this out. mean,

23:28

it's a crisis. I've had periods in my life,

23:30

like lots of parents where I wasn't getting enough

23:32

sleep, but that was just because I didn't have,

23:34

you know, the opportunity to spend enough time in bed

23:36

sleeping. It wasn't because I couldn't figure out how

23:38

to sleep. Now I can get in bed and

23:40

just like last night I went to bed at,

23:42

I don't know when it was nine o 'clock. I

23:45

laid there till at least two a .m. last

23:47

time I left the clock completely awake the whole

23:49

time. Oh, no idea. Had no caffeine from 10

23:51

a .m. I mean, I just, and I have no

23:53

idea where this has come from. And it's just

23:56

happened kind of out of nowhere. It's driving me

23:58

nuts. It's a horrible feeling. And then, obviously, you

24:00

got all the problems with being asleep. I'm

24:02

looking at government statistics. This is

24:04

from one of your national health

24:06

organizations, something or other. Before

24:09

we get to that, have you

24:11

dealt with the guilt you have for

24:13

having staged bum fights for all

24:15

those years? Still staging bum fights. The

24:17

money is great. And

24:19

it's easier than ever to

24:21

find crazy violent drums. Oh,

24:24

that's a good point. It's really the golden

24:26

era of staging bum fights. Wow. I could go

24:28

right outside the radio station right now and

24:30

find two crazy angry people who'd be happy to

24:32

fight each other for a couple of bucks.

24:35

He's not joking. I am not joking. Well, I'm

24:37

joking that I am going to do that.

24:39

I'm not joking that I could find two angry,

24:41

violent people downstairs that would fight. Or maybe

24:43

over in the sales room. I don't know. 40

24:47

% of adults report falling

24:49

asleep during the day without

24:51

meeting to at least once

24:53

a month. Do you fall

24:55

asleep during the day? At least once

24:57

a month, 40 % of Americans? I

25:00

fall asleep driving way too often,

25:02

always have, really. Oh, gee,

25:04

that's not a

25:06

minor story. Yeah, Katie's like,

25:09

wait, wait, wait, what? I know I've been here

25:11

in this for years. You don't fall asleep driving?

25:13

You just tried to slide that right by us.

25:15

You don't fall asleep driving? No.

25:19

I am operating a vehicle. Well,

25:21

I don't want to. It's not like I think

25:23

it's cool. I

25:26

know. I know, Katie. I

25:28

know. I don't know what

25:31

to say. You just... Well,

25:33

40 % is a lot of Americans

25:35

fall asleep during the day without

25:37

meaning to at least once a

25:40

month, do you? Katie.

25:42

No, no, no. I actually cannot

25:44

be driving at your desk or anything like that.

25:46

No, I simply can't do that and I don't

25:48

know. Yeah, we're the same. That would be that

25:50

would be astonishing to me if that happened. Yeah,

25:52

I don't know if I believe this number, but

25:54

it is it's a from the National Institute of

25:56

Health. Health. Not

25:58

that I believe their statistics, but it's

26:00

not most sleep statistics you hear.

26:02

Oh, and then look for this. Almost

26:04

all sleep statistics you hear. about

26:06

pillows and sleep and whatever, you look

26:08

at the bottom and it's paid

26:10

for by a mattress company or a

26:12

pillow company or whatever. That's

26:15

crap. But this is from the National

26:17

Institutes of Health. That'd be

26:19

a shocking number if 40 % of adults fall

26:21

asleep during the day, unintentionally

26:23

once a month. I

26:25

mean, even when I had my

26:27

desk job and I'd

26:29

go and have a big lunch and

26:31

I was on the west side of the

26:34

building Gladys I tell you I remember

26:36

it so well and the office would get

26:38

so warm with the afternoon Sun shining

26:40

on my office and I'd have a full

26:42

belly in it close the door like

26:44

I was on an important call just 10

26:46

minutes to show But that's on television

26:48

that was entirely on purpose. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

26:50

I do that regularly in the car

26:53

Sitting in a chair or wherever. Yeah, I

26:55

think falling asleep on accident is like

26:57

narcolepsy, isn't it? You just kind of start

26:59

nodding off. So it's a sign for

27:01

sure. I sometimes fall asleep during the hour

27:03

three of our show. Wow,

27:06

that was way out of

27:08

line. I'll

27:13

tell you what it is before I give the percentage.

27:15

We've been trying to do this for years because if you

27:17

give the percentage first, by the time you get to

27:19

the what it was, nobody remembers the percentage. Exactly.

27:21

This is the percentage of adults

27:23

who had trouble falling asleep most

27:25

days or every day in the

27:27

last month. that would be me

27:30

14 and a half percent which

27:32

is pretty pretty big chunk having

27:34

trouble falling asleep almost every day

27:36

um i have my whole life

27:38

so i just think that's the

27:40

way i'm built pretty much but

27:42

not like lay there for hours

27:44

like has just uh uh uh

27:46

hit me recently for some reason

27:48

um it increases and this is

27:50

where i thought was particularly interesting

27:52

and this is from the cdc

27:54

the percentage of people who have

27:56

trouble falling asleep goes up As

27:58

your education goes down, as family

28:00

income goes down, and as you

28:02

become more rural, which

28:04

is surprising to me. Really? Yeah.

28:07

Lower income rural people have more

28:09

sleep problems than hard driving

28:11

urbanites. Yeah, this is that, this

28:14

is that, son. Counterintuitive. Yeah,

28:16

I agree. But that's,

28:18

you got the dark of the country

28:20

night, you got the crickets, a chirpin,

28:22

you just had You know,

28:24

you got to flap Jack's what's the John

28:26

Denver song? I don't know. What is

28:28

the John Denver song? You know with the

28:30

the thank God I'm a country boy.

28:32

Oh, I mean my pipe I got me

28:34

old Phil when the sun's coming up

28:36

I got cakes on the griddle sound pretty

28:39

good not fall asleep with the lifestyle

28:41

I wonder if they have more trouble falling

28:43

asleep because they're not as busy throughout

28:45

the day Maybe they're like the slower lifestyle.

28:47

They're not so go go go I

28:49

Don't know. I don't know. I have no

28:51

idea what that is But

28:53

then there are the, there are the, uh,

28:56

statistics on staying asleep, which is a whole nother thing too,

28:58

which I, I, and I know lots of people have

29:00

you fall asleep, but then you'll wake up at one in

29:02

the morning or two in the morning for some unknown

29:04

reason. And you'll lay there for a while, which I hate.

29:06

I just hate that feeling. It's just the worst. Uh,

29:09

and then, you know, you keep looking at the clock

29:11

and it gets closer to when you got to get up

29:13

and you're still tired. I hate it. Um,

29:15

but breaking it down again.

29:17

So, uh, education, income. Goes down

29:19

the likelihood that you're not

29:21

gonna be able to sleep goes

29:23

up a greater percentage of

29:25

white adults had trouble staying asleep

29:27

Every day in the last

29:29

month then Hispanic black or Asian

29:31

Any idea why that is

29:33

my white guilt. why I

29:35

know yep. Yes, yeah Robin D 'Angelo

29:38

really taught some sense to me and

29:40

now I can't go to sleep

29:42

at night knowing that my ancestors 175

29:44

years ago did bad stuff. The

29:46

crowd that has the least trouble it

29:48

would look like from the statistics

29:50

is urban, educated, Asian people. Almost

29:53

nobody has trouble sleeping, getting to sleep

29:55

or staying asleep. Wow. Why it

29:57

is, I have no idea. Tiger moms,

29:59

their heads hit the pillow and they're

30:01

out! Yeah. Um, if you

30:03

have any guess as to why that is

30:05

with the... Because

30:07

in my mind you

30:09

go up in the

30:11

income and education and

30:13

people are like go

30:16

go drinking coffee high

30:18

pressure But that's not

30:20

doesn't fit in with

30:22

the statistics Okay, here's

30:24

your hillbilly elegy analysis.

30:26

Okay, we are heavily

30:28

weighted in semi rural

30:30

to rural America with

30:32

the former manufacturing job on

30:36

disability, drinking too much,

30:38

taking drugs, smoking cigarettes, crowd.

30:42

And their lifestyles just aren't conducive to

30:44

getting sleep. They're obese. They don't

30:46

get enough exercise. And

30:48

that has weighted the statistics. Is

30:50

that the typical rural lifestyle

30:52

at this point? That's not my

30:55

experience, but is that overwhelm

30:57

the statistics now? Well, yeah, I

30:59

chose my words carefully, as

31:01

always. I think that has

31:03

weighted those statistics in that direction. I don't

31:05

know if it's typical or not, but there

31:07

are a hell of a lot of people

31:09

who do live like that. If

31:13

you have less than a high school

31:15

diploma, one in six, haven't

31:17

been able to get to sleep

31:19

most days in the last 30 days.

31:21

So education going down, is that

31:23

the stress of how to make a

31:25

living? Or do you think that's

31:27

it? Because we've always liked the statistic

31:29

to make this point of, what

31:32

is the statistic we like? Two out of three, that's

31:34

my favorite. People

31:37

who get divorced are more

31:39

likely to smoke or it's the

31:42

other way around. People who

31:44

smoke are more likely to get

31:46

divorced. Smoking

31:48

doesn't cause divorce. For

31:50

vice versa. But there's a

31:52

lifestyle that goes with smoking, generally.

31:56

And so that's what I'm

31:58

wondering about the, uh, the

32:00

less than a high school diploma. Are you more

32:02

likely to like drink red bowls until 10 o 'clock

32:05

at night and then try to get to sleep? Then

32:07

if you have a college education,

32:09

I don't know that. Yeah, that's

32:12

I think yeah, you've led us

32:14

to the promised land and well

32:16

done. I say I think if

32:18

you looked at a list of

32:20

say four or five or six

32:22

I don't study this stuff. I

32:25

don't know a quote -unquote sleep

32:27

disruptive habits or activities I think

32:29

they would be more heavily on

32:31

the lower income end But I

32:33

don't know Scratchers the scratchers keep

32:35

you awake Trying to figure out

32:38

if you've matched three numbers don't

32:40

know um

32:42

bondo on your car i don't know right

32:44

i don't know if you've got any idea

32:46

why as education goes down sleep problems go

32:48

up now i'm a college graduate in a

32:50

suburban area i don't know i shouldn't be

32:53

having to i don't know what the problem

32:55

i do drink red bull all day long

32:57

now i actually uh can't drink that stuff

32:59

i don't know how anybody does my son

33:01

and all his friends do they love it

33:03

uh and that's horrible my it's horrible i

33:05

limited my life it's disgusting too it might

33:07

have been horrible but And I don't know.

33:10

I might actually have to see a doctor

33:12

about this at this point. It's become a

33:14

crisis. It's a crisis in my life. Wow.

33:16

And I dread over the last several weeks,

33:18

I dread going to bed, even though I'm

33:20

exhausted. Just, oh, God, I can't just lay

33:22

there. And then, of course, that adds to

33:24

it. It's like when you're worried, if you're

33:26

worried about your blood pressure, all right, your

33:29

blood pressure checked. Oh, tell me

33:31

about it. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah.

33:34

Somebody suggested the three

33:36

M's, magnesium, melatonin and

33:38

masturbation. Oh,

33:40

boy. Wow. Night after

33:42

night. To get and stay asleep. Exercise.

33:45

Physical exercise, clearly. I get

33:47

exercise. I'm not

33:49

doing anything different. That's what's crazy. No changes

33:51

in my life. Just all a sudden can't

33:54

sleep at all. Like, hardly all. Age, man.

33:56

Age. I wonder if the bang -bangs are

33:58

getting to you. Right. Yeah,

34:00

I don't know. The double meal

34:02

eating for those not familiar with these

34:04

terms. Two different meals. I don't

34:07

sleep great when I eat like crap.

34:09

Sometimes so maybe I don't know.

34:11

Stop going to Wienersnitzel. He does eat

34:13

like a bear having discovered an

34:15

unlocked door to Lake Tahoe cabin. What

34:17

did I have for dinner last

34:19

night? Let's just use like a random

34:21

meal like last night. This is

34:23

science. Last night for dinner, quarter pounder

34:25

with cheese and a McFlurry. So

34:27

there's nothing to Katie's theory whatsoever. Clearly,

34:31

I'm just making it up. Oh

34:34

my God, who eats like that? Jack

34:37

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37:59

Oddly enough, it began with a

38:01

relative who has some sensory issues,

38:03

Jack, something you know about. I'm

38:06

gonna keep things vague to protect

38:08

the innocent, but say it was

38:10

my uncle Morty, and we would

38:12

make reference to Morty Bread, and

38:14

how good it was, and Morty, when

38:16

he would come for a visit, would

38:18

always leave a loaf. And

38:20

when I was through with Morty Bread, I was

38:23

very, very sad, because it was so good.

38:25

I'm gonna leave a loaf before I leave work

38:27

today. Oh, God! Jesus

38:29

boy, you know Jack, you

38:31

know what Katie? I just

38:33

you want to go off into our own

38:36

thing Yeah, could we would you taste me wouldn't

38:38

ever yet Michael you're hired and you can

38:40

watch Jack We're out here. You can you can

38:42

this is gonna be like in this this

38:44

is this happened to me at least once in

38:46

my youth It was explained

38:48

to me. Hey, the band has got a

38:50

break up. We just we can't do this

38:52

and it's too much trouble to do that

38:54

And so we're breaking up and then a

38:56

week later right here. Yeah, they're playing. They

38:58

just got a different dude Oh my god,

39:00

yeah, so that's what we're doing to Jack

39:03

right now. Yeah, we I'm really not gonna

39:05

do a radio anymore That's like the they

39:07

break up with you because I just I

39:09

just don't think I should be in a

39:11

relationship right now And then you see him

39:13

walking down the street holding hands with somebody

39:15

yeah next weekend. Oh, okay Well, I'm going

39:17

into bread making. You guys have fun. Okay,

39:19

the bread making, I am. That's something I

39:21

would like to actually learn how to do. One,

39:23

because I love homemade bread, and it just

39:25

seems like it'd be a cool craft. And

39:28

I pronounced having enjoyed some morty

39:30

bread and then switched back to the

39:32

regular stuff. Oh my god It's

39:34

just so much better and so Judy

39:36

got a new mixer because our

39:38

old mixer's motor was kind of funky

39:40

and And so now she's got

39:42

this big like industrial looking mixer and

39:44

she made a couple of loaves

39:46

of what's known as the morty bread

39:48

and my lost student daughter made

39:51

herself some bread, although one of

39:53

her two cats stepped on the bread

39:55

as it was proofing, which I guess

39:57

means rising or something. Yeah. And so

39:59

one of the loaves is robust and

40:02

very healthy looking. And the other loaf

40:04

is really just, excuse me, loaf, because

40:06

the cat ruined it. Damn cats. The

40:08

cat stepped on the bread, but you're

40:10

going to go ahead and make it anyway,

40:12

doesn't that? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you

40:15

put it in the oven at 350 degrees

40:17

for half an hour, whatever it is,

40:19

fine. I don't know that I want litter

40:21

box bread. Yeah, this tastes a little

40:23

like, uh, whatever a cat walks through. Well,

40:25

now I will tell you this, having

40:27

babysat my daughter's cats for three weeks over

40:29

Christmas, she does occasionally, uh,

40:32

get ready the bleeper. Uh,

40:34

she does occasionally refer to their

40:36

mittens because they, you know,

40:38

they, they poo in, they poo

40:40

in the box. Then they

40:42

walk out of the box. Obviously.

40:45

That's, that's, see, that's not a tasty

40:47

term. And

40:50

it's not like they dip

40:52

their paws in some sort of

40:54

disinfectant on their way out.

40:56

Must clean the paws after one

40:58

pose, you know. No, they

41:00

don't do that. That's

41:03

a great term. It

41:05

is. and discuss we've got cats

41:07

and Michael there yeah walking to use

41:09

that term padding around mittens all

41:11

over your house i'm going to start

41:13

calling people mittens this is great

41:15

oh my goodness this is charming folks

41:17

i apologize gotta work this guy

41:19

at work he's been told me the

41:22

other day listen here but a

41:24

bunch of mittens around here why do

41:26

i put up with it i

41:28

know anyway where was i oh i

41:30

was i was going to talk

41:32

about the various things that

41:34

are so far superior in their

41:36

homemade versions, but we've kind

41:38

of drifted so far away from

41:40

it. Like, I brewed beer

41:42

for a while, my brother brews

41:44

beer, and it's so good.

41:46

He's actually got the cooler with

41:48

two taps, and anytime

41:51

we visit his house, he

41:53

has home brewed beer in

41:55

kegs on tap. Wow. I

41:57

see cold on his patio. It's ridiculous.

41:59

Oh, it's although if I lived like

42:02

that, I would be a flaming alcoholic

42:04

in 375 pounds. And if there's a

42:06

downside, but I'd be happy and I

42:08

wouldn't be thinking about my problems and

42:10

people would be more interesting. But Brad

42:12

might be at the top of the

42:14

list. Beer is close. I

42:17

say cookies and I'm

42:19

a bit of a purist.

42:21

Maybe a bit of a pain in

42:23

the ass. I know that's hard to

42:26

imagine I will not eat store -bought cookies

42:28

I just because the calories and the

42:30

taste no Yeah, oh those cookies that

42:32

I sent you guys the picture of

42:34

over break that I made oh They

42:36

were so good. I know. They look

42:38

good. Homemade cookies. It's

42:40

just, it's like sex. It's so good. I

42:42

grew up in Wisconsin with a lot of homemade

42:45

butter and homemade butter is just so much

42:47

better than what you get in the store. It's

42:49

like a different thing. For each

42:51

brother, I wouldn't know. If you put homemade, and

42:53

I had forgotten how good it was, so this

42:55

field trip my son went on to a couple

42:57

of years ago, they churned butter

42:59

they I spent more time churning than

43:01

the kids did but um as I

43:03

was one of the chaperones but I

43:05

up the butter exactly their weedy little

43:07

arms um I churned up the butter

43:09

and I'd forgotten how good it is

43:12

you put homemade butter on homemade bread

43:14

and you have a flip and treat

43:16

right there that sounds wonderful I'm guessing

43:18

there go ahead Katie oh no I'm

43:20

just I'm in the process of trying

43:22

to make sourdough bread because that's my

43:24

favorite oh of life. And

43:26

I haven't gotten it down yet because

43:28

it's complicated. But oh my gosh.

43:30

We missed the whole getting a starter

43:32

going during COVID thing. I wish

43:34

we had. But Jack, I'm sure there

43:36

are semi overpriced like electric butter

43:38

churns you can get from, you know,

43:40

sharp or whatever. Yeah. We did

43:42

it the old timey way with a

43:44

look like the thing you've seen

43:46

in old timey movies with a stick

43:48

and a cylinder with a hole

43:50

on the top. It kind of looks

43:52

a little Sexual but I

43:54

mean you're you're doing this thing. Sometimes a

43:56

cigar is just a cigar dr. Freud.

43:59

He's enough But yeah homemade butter, but it's

44:01

that's what you got to add you

44:03

have homemade bread with homemade butter. Oh So

44:05

Wow, I'm looking at how to make

44:07

homemade butter. It doesn't look that difficult. It's

44:09

not hard at all I'm gonna try

44:11

it today do it. Yeah, and then report

44:13

back. Oh So good Get me a

44:15

tub not that sort of stuff to get

44:17

mitten sell over there at the store. Oh,

44:19

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