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and Joe Getty. I'm Strong

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and Getty. And now, Here's

1:48

Armstrong and

1:50

Eddie. This

1:57

is not just about books, this

1:59

is about exposure to people

2:01

of different sexual orientations and the

2:03

objection, the sincerely held objection, that

2:06

children shouldn't be exposed to this.

2:08

Again, our clients are not raising

2:10

those and we know that these

2:12

kinds of objections aren't happening. Here

2:14

the board is imposing indoctrination on

2:16

children. I thought Baxter did very

2:18

well. I thought the Trump administration,

2:20

Harris, the assistant, Solicitor General,

2:22

also did extraordinarily well. And

2:24

Baxter kept on shutting down the

2:26

argument. Jackson said, you don't

2:28

have any affidavits or declarations. He

2:30

said, yes, I do. And

2:33

when they said, well, you just don't

2:35

want people to have access to this.

2:37

And he said, that's not true. He

2:39

said, we have no objection to these

2:41

books being available. This is very different

2:43

from that. And then Justice Sotomayor tried

2:45

to portray them as, you just don't

2:48

want people to see the image of

2:50

a same -sex couple. There's no real

2:52

lesson here. And her own colleagues jumped

2:54

in and said, there is a lesson

2:56

here. There's a definite message being sent

2:58

here. Which is, don't pay

3:00

attention to Sotomayor. Don't even bother.

3:04

She's an unfortunate justice. We're

3:06

talking about the... We're

3:08

talking about the book Pride Puppy and

3:11

what you're gonna hear more about in

3:13

a second and and other books like

3:15

that that are in school libraries But

3:17

that well, no, I'm sorry. I gotta

3:19

jump in that's specifically what the lawyers

3:21

were saying is not the case It's

3:23

that this is being taught as a

3:26

curriculum aggressively There's no you find the

3:28

book on a shelf check it out

3:30

because you're interested It's being given affirmatively

3:32

to kids from ages three on and

3:34

taught as part of a whole curriculum

3:36

Right. Good point. I don't think they

3:38

should even be in the library. I'm

3:41

sorry. Why? I would agree. I just why?

3:43

Why is it there? Here's

3:46

a dude explaining why Pride Puppy

3:48

is a perfectly fine book and

3:50

it's just hate. This is Pride

3:52

Puppy by Robin Stevenson and Julie

3:55

McLaughlin. It doesn't get more innocent

3:57

than a children's alphabet book. See

3:59

for car, our old Chevrolet. But

4:01

this one, about a dog that

4:03

breaks loose from its family while

4:05

at a pride parade, is now

4:07

at the center of a censorship

4:10

case going before the US Supreme

4:12

Court. It was pitched as a

4:14

parental rights religious freedom case when...

4:16

What I think it's doing is

4:18

hiding its hate, really disguised as

4:20

parental rights, and what people

4:23

are taking offense at, I believe, is the

4:25

fact that pride is in the title, and

4:27

there are pride flags in

4:29

the book. That's fair. is absolutely

4:31

not a censorship case. That

4:33

is unblankin' believable. Play

4:35

that again, just because that thing at

4:38

the beginning I like. Play that

4:40

again. This is Pride Puppy by Robin

4:42

Stevenson and Julie McLaughlin. It doesn't

4:44

get more innocent than a children's alphabet

4:46

book. I love that. I love

4:48

that. The news lady coming in. It

4:50

doesn't get more innocent than a

4:52

children's alphabet book. How in the world

4:54

do you present that story like

4:56

that and pretend you're a journalist? It's

4:58

a censorship case. Masquerading

5:00

is a parent's right case

5:03

as we tell three -year -olds

5:05

about drag queens and they

5:07

can be a little girl

5:09

and weave that into every

5:12

lesson in school. Yeah, censorship.

5:14

Here's a little bit of

5:17

a response video to that

5:19

and then I'll fill in

5:21

some gaps. Today we're going

5:23

to have a reading of

5:25

Pride Puppy for all the

5:27

beautiful queer -dos and the late

5:29

Mr. Pants dancing over the

5:31

rainbow bridge. Oh,

5:36

that's it. I don't know what

5:38

queridos are. I assume that's another

5:40

one of her books because she's

5:42

some sort of a very popular

5:44

author of this sort of thing.

5:47

weirdos like they call this weird because we

5:49

like, you know, blah, blah, blah. So we're

5:51

weird queer. Um, and then, uh, and then

5:53

he goes through the pride puppy book and

5:55

the, the, the basic story of the book

5:57

is it's a puppy that gets loose from

5:59

its owners and runs through a pride parade

6:01

and then you see all the. And

6:04

I don't know why the barking is the

6:06

pride puppy there. And then they're trying to catch

6:08

the dog. And then you see all these

6:10

different colorful characters in the parade and all the

6:12

rainbow flags and the drag queens are trying

6:14

to chase the dog. And it's just an innocent

6:16

book about teaching, you know, phonics to kids.

6:18

And in the back of the book, they have

6:20

they go letter by letter, like you do

6:22

in a lot of these sorts of books trying

6:24

to teach reading through the alphabet. For

6:27

instance, like I as

6:29

an infant, insulin, inflatable

6:31

tube. Intersex flag and

6:33

insect of all the

6:35

I words that like

6:37

you come and contact

6:39

normally in your life

6:41

that you could throw

6:43

in or ice cream

6:45

intersex flag Instead of

6:47

igloo or ice cream

6:50

you go with intersex

6:52

flag. I mean it's

6:54

transparently hilarious What

6:56

you're doing to get a

6:58

through it's this is for

7:00

as young as three -year -olds

7:02

is Justice Gorsuch kept pointing

7:04

out. It's just to get

7:06

your five -year -old or or

7:08

even your 15 year old

7:10

to say what's an intersex

7:12

flag and get into the

7:14

whole conversation There's other examples

7:16

under K Kites kiss drag

7:18

king knapsack keys not not

7:20

not king drag king Under

7:24

K. Well, that way they got to put it

7:26

under DNK. Um...

7:28

Boy, the old... We put in porn

7:31

or how to have gay sex

7:33

manuals in school. Then if you say,

7:35

whoa, whoa, whoa, this, uh, this

7:37

change you've brought, I don't like it.

7:39

You're a censor! You're, you're,

7:41

this is censorship! Band books!

7:44

It doesn't get more innocent than a

7:46

children's alphabet book. You're the person

7:48

asking for change! Wait a minute. No,

7:50

I'm not. Under

7:52

L. Love. Lion,

7:55

leopard print leggings, lip

7:57

ring, and ladybug. Leopard

8:03

print leggings and lip

8:05

ring for your just

8:07

random easy to understand

8:09

L words. Not

8:13

ladder. Why?

8:17

Why are you doing this? There's

8:19

a reason you're doing this. Yeah.

8:21

To indoctrinate the kids into radical

8:23

gender theory and queer theory, yeah.

8:26

Under, under Q they had

8:28

two words. Quilt and

8:30

drag queen. Again,

8:33

not queen, drag queen. What

8:36

the hell? And again, the dedication in

8:38

the beginning is for all the beautiful

8:40

queerdos and the late Mr. Pants dancing

8:42

over the rainbow bridge. Shut

8:44

down all government schools

8:46

right now. That's the only

8:48

answer. We'll have church

8:51

schools, charitable schools, whatever, ad

8:53

hoc schools put together by groups

8:55

of parents. They won't be perfect,

8:57

but they'd be better than being

8:59

indoctrinated into, you know, the hatred

9:01

of your country and Western civilization,

9:03

which the education system in this

9:05

country is so infected. Good Lord.

9:08

That book doesn't need to be in

9:10

the freaking school at all. But

9:12

as Joe pointed out, the problem is

9:14

this is like Part of the curriculum they're

9:16

saying you can't even opt out of

9:18

for your three -year -old. I mean, they're making

9:21

it that important. There's

9:23

just no excuse for it being in

9:26

the schools. Period. Any of

9:28

these conversations, leave that to the

9:30

parents. This is not the point of

9:32

public school. Just reading, writing, math,

9:34

science, all right? And then shut up

9:36

about everything else. Let, you know,

9:38

deal with that in your own home

9:40

and however you want. You to

9:42

read that book to your kid? Fine.

9:44

But the idea that that's mandatory

9:46

for all kids is insane. Oh, and

9:48

the guy who did that clap

9:50

back video, he pointed out that, so

9:52

there are these various groups. that

9:54

give out awards to these books and

9:56

they're all each other giving awards

9:58

to each other so that you have

10:00

an award -winning children's book that you

10:02

put in your library and then

10:04

you can make that. They're wanting to

10:06

censor this award -winning children's book on

10:08

reading. Yeah, the

10:10

awards from the indoctrinating your

10:12

kids into queer theory

10:14

council. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

10:16

It's very clever, like we talked about earlier.

10:18

I mean, you gotta tip your cat to

10:20

the to the cleverness of,

10:22

you know, all the little tentacles that

10:24

are into this whole thing. But

10:27

the idea that, I mean, some of

10:29

these words are just hilarious. Oh

10:32

my God, I intersex

10:34

flag. What? What?

10:36

If I was going to list a thousand I

10:38

words, it wouldn't have popped into my head. B

10:41

is for bear and

10:43

barn and bisexual. Right.

10:47

Yeah. that

10:51

is something it looks like

10:53

the supreme court agrees with

10:55

most of us on this

10:57

uh yes yeah i it

10:59

was a absolute bloodbath oral

11:01

arguments wise i was really

11:03

enjoying our listening to it

11:05

i'll listen to the rest

11:07

of it today but the

11:09

only place where it got

11:11

a little sketchy was interestingly

11:13

enough katanji brown jackson who

11:15

was pointing out that we

11:17

have Optouts for this and

11:19

opt outs for that surely

11:21

government does how have the

11:23

power to teach certain moral

11:25

or cultural things are good

11:27

in schools That's part of

11:29

the reason they exist. How

11:31

do you quoting a friend?

11:33

How do you draw the

11:35

line between? Saying parents

11:37

can copped out can opt out of

11:39

the trans is fine stuff But

11:41

not out of MLK was a good

11:43

guy stuff and I'm not saying

11:45

that line can't be drawn But the

11:48

answer really is There

11:50

is no answer other than I

11:52

know it when I see it

11:54

or we need to establish certain

11:56

fundamental values that are taught in

11:58

schools and not let the other

12:00

stuff in. It's

12:02

one of the problems with having lawyers

12:04

run the world. Is

12:07

this sort of thing? Yeah, I'm

12:09

perfectly fine with the public for

12:11

your local school. I know it

12:13

when I see it. We'll do

12:15

it on an individual basis. I'm

12:17

not writing a law. That

12:20

delineates it because that'd be impossible

12:22

and saying the civil rights movement

12:24

was a cause for good perfectly

12:27

fine all this crap in this

12:29

book. No Well, right. And

12:31

that is why school boards exist or

12:33

should exist. Now, are there woke lunatics

12:35

on school boards? Yes. But we on

12:37

the same side of America are becoming

12:39

more and more aware of how important

12:41

it is to be represented there. So,

12:44

yeah, school boards can decide

12:46

this stuff. The problem is in

12:48

Montgomery County, Maryland, which is

12:50

the case that we're talking about,

12:53

the school board is just

12:55

it is such a affluent deep

12:57

blue limousine liberal look how

12:59

enlightened I am nightmare and so

13:02

you've got parents of various

13:04

religious stripes saying hey our kids

13:06

are being indoctrinated every single

13:08

day from the age of three

13:10

on into a philosophy and

13:12

sexual stuff that I find repugnant

13:15

right only rich people can

13:17

it can escape it yeah somebody

13:19

I don't forget who came

13:21

up with the costs five figures

13:23

to send your kid to

13:25

private school somebody Texted it's

13:27

six figures. What are you gonna send your

13:30

kid to a couple of years of private

13:32

school? If you're gonna send up a private

13:34

school their whole their whole lives It's easily

13:36

six figures and they had obviously yeah, that

13:38

was an annual figure. They're talking about but

13:40

but you know, you're either into it or

13:42

you're not yeah The advantage they have on

13:44

that other side is uh, well, what do

13:46

you got it? What's wrong with a puppy

13:48

running through a pride parade and depicting that

13:50

you just hate gays? No,

13:52

but why do we have to? What

13:54

would be wrong with a puppy running

13:56

through a Fourth of July parade? What's the

13:58

difference? Yeah, I don't know. I just

14:00

don't want it. That's a celebration of our

14:03

national identity and birth as a country.

14:05

That's normal. What you're describing is obvious indoctrination

14:07

of something that there's no need to

14:09

have it in schools. I don't feel like

14:11

you want to don't you have a

14:13

puppy run through a condom factory? Huh? Why

14:15

don't you have the puppy run through

14:18

a swinger's party? Look at all the lube!

14:20

Don't knock over the lube party, uh,

14:22

or puppy! It's a freak -off! Look! There's

14:24

Diddy Puppy! Because that would be perverse! The

14:28

hell! Shut it all down! Yes,

14:31

I'll write a book, Diddy

14:33

Puppy, and he runs through

14:35

a freak -off! Right, there's

14:37

the woman who's being compelled

14:39

to have sex against her

14:42

will careful puppy Diddy might

14:44

shoot you too Allegedly, please

14:46

you people are sick Nothing

14:48

against people and their choices

14:50

in life, but stop grooming

14:52

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as we say every single

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okay or just say i am in

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a legal alien and they'll say okay

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getting that line over there you don't

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need an idea that made me feel

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bad about myself only twenty percent of

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current fliers don't have the real i

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d i assume it was the vast

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majority of us but now it's a

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small minority okay as i tear apart

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the other day they were handing out

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that piece of paper to all of

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us uh... saying don't forget your real

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i d i started the process yesterday

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and On the

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website and we'll see how this

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turns out. I look forward to paying

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the stupid Dax waiting in line

17:46

for something that I knew was coming

17:48

for years and again as you

17:50

keep pointing out Joe Yes, this is

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to deal with the terrorists on

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9 -11 2001 Exactly, so you're gonna

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be pulled out of line. No real

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idea on this one Jim. Oh

18:00

my good to come over here you

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Do you know Osama bin Laden? Are

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you part of Al Qaeda? You

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know, you're gonna be asking people, they're

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gonna say, what's Al Qaeda? You

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know, you're some 19 -year -old. That

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happened before I was born. Why do I

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hate you? Yeah, I know. I know. Yeah,

18:20

so a couple of food related stories

18:22

worth passing along. I mentioned this briefly

18:24

earlier, but it's interesting. In

18:26

recent years, scientists have found that

18:28

some additives like emulsifiers, dyes, artificial sweeteners,

18:30

and there a dozen other things,

18:32

are linked to health problems. But the

18:34

studies have generally focused on the

18:37

impact of one substance at a time

18:39

or a type of additive, which

18:41

makes sense if you understand the scientific

18:43

method. But that's not the

18:45

way people consume them. Of course not.

18:47

Ultra -processed foods often contain a cocktail

18:49

of additives and I do enjoy

18:51

a cocktail now and again. If I

18:53

eat a bunch of Skittles, I'm

18:55

gonna get red dye number 10 and

18:57

yellow dye number 15 and blue

18:59

dye number what? On a mulsifier and

19:01

a preservative and many people eat

19:03

more than one ultra -processed product in

19:05

a day, so they're getting multiple cocktails.

19:07

Yeah, thanks. So a new new

19:10

study conducted by researchers from several French

19:12

universities and research institutions found that

19:14

some common combinations of

19:16

emulsifiers, colors, and sweeteners was associated

19:18

with high risk of type 2

19:20

diabetes beyond what could be explained

19:22

by the individual substances alone. This

19:24

suggests that when some of these

19:26

substances are eaten together, the negative health

19:29

impacts may be compounded. So they're looking

19:31

at it in a more real life -y

19:33

way. Yeah, this seems fairly obvious. I'm

19:35

surprised we're just getting to it now,

19:37

but yeah, there you go. Yeah, I

19:39

get the scientific problem with having multiple

19:41

variables in one experiment, but I mean,

19:44

that's the way it's taken in. So

19:46

another quick food -related story, farm

19:48

robots or farm bots, if you will,

19:50

are getting much closer to reality. The

19:52

way they navigate between rows of crops,

19:54

for instance, is changing in a way

19:56

that relies less on GPS and more

19:59

on just they're looking at the strawberries

20:01

and they can see they're two inches

20:03

from the strawberries they're supposed to be

20:05

two inches from the strawberries and so

20:07

they can do all the stuff which

20:09

reminds me of early on in the

20:11

illegal immigration discussion people will say who's

20:13

gonna pick the lettuce and we would

20:15

always say somebody or nobody or a

20:18

machine well the machine is gaining on

20:20

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21:07

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21:09

why are you going third person? Because

21:11

Clay, I think this ad is running

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21:15

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maybe if it's true, I bet if

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21:50

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21:52

and at Clay and at Clay and at Clay

21:54

and at Clay and at Clay and Buck. Is

22:29

it fair to say we're at an

22:31

inflection point on this whole thing? This

22:33

is just not another little blip in

22:35

this story. This seems like this could

22:37

really be a big deal, which is

22:40

probably why The Wall Street Journal editorial

22:42

board, New York Post editorial

22:44

board, both out with pieces today, both,

22:46

you know, Republican -leading

22:49

publications, really

22:51

pretty horrified at Trump

22:54

continuing to badmouth and

22:56

pressure Zelensky while giving

22:58

Putin a complete pass.

23:01

We'll hear more from JD Vance in a second

23:03

on that. Well, let's hear a little more

23:05

from Trump as he explains himself. I

23:07

will say that I think Russia is ready

23:10

and a lot of people said

23:12

Russia wanted to go for the whole

23:14

thing and they've I think we

23:16

have a deal with Russia we have

23:18

to get a deal with Zelensky

23:20

and I hope that Zelensky I thought

23:22

it might be easier to deal

23:24

with Zelensky so far it's been harder

23:26

but that's okay it's alright but

23:29

but I think we have a deal

23:31

with both. One

23:35

more and then we'll discuss. Now

23:58

I don't think Trump

24:00

is like a puppet

24:02

of Putin. I don't think Putin has

24:04

something on him. I don't know that

24:06

stuff. But

24:09

I don't get it. I

24:11

don't get the lack of

24:13

willingness to call Putin a

24:15

really bad guy, the

24:17

aggressor, a war

24:19

criminal. Why? Why? Why does he not

24:21

want to say? Why does he need

24:23

to say bad things about Zelensky and

24:25

refuses to say bad things about Putin?

24:27

What's the point? I think it's just

24:29

a question of leverage. He can

24:31

say anything he wants to Zelensky and

24:33

Zelensky still needs the U .S.'s help. He

24:36

feels like he cannot alienate Putin

24:38

or else his scheme of, and

24:40

I don't mean scheme in a

24:43

negative way, his hope of ending

24:45

the war will be for naught.

24:48

So he's got to lure him

24:50

into the bargaining. So

24:52

we have an update on the

24:54

story just since this morning

24:56

because overnight Russia launched

24:59

the deadliest attack

25:01

on Kiev since the

25:03

war began. So

25:05

what, how does Trump not

25:07

take that personally? So

25:09

you're in the midst yesterday of

25:11

doing all the things I just

25:13

mentioned. Saying, you know, friendliest things

25:16

about Putin, badmouth and Zelensky, and

25:18

how does Putin reward him? And

25:20

Trump's saying, you get to keep

25:22

Crimea, you get to keep all

25:24

the land. I'm saying Ukraine can't

25:26

be part of NATO. I

25:28

mean, I'm handing you all this stuff.

25:30

And how does Putin reward him

25:32

with the biggest attack on the capital

25:34

of Ukraine since the war started? And

25:37

why wouldn't he? 12 and

25:39

hundreds dead or 12 dead hundreds

25:41

injured and they might find

25:43

more dead people so Trump wasn't

25:45

happy about that And he

25:47

did respond. I've got it right

25:50

in front of me I'm

25:52

not happy with the Russian strikes

25:54

on Kiev not necessary and

25:56

very bad timing 5 ,000 soldiers

25:58

a week are dying. Let's get

26:00

the peace deal done but Even

26:04

that, I mean, I'm not

26:06

happy with this bad timing

26:08

and not necessary, is pretty

26:10

tepid. Yes, yeah. And

26:12

Putin's thinking, well, okay, as tepid

26:14

as that is, I can continue

26:16

this on for weeks or months.

26:18

grab more land kill more soldiers

26:21

weaken the western leaning regime of

26:23

ukraine even more thereby cementing my

26:25

control over it and then in

26:27

six weeks time or six months

26:29

or whatever i say to trump

26:31

yeah yeah you're right we really

26:33

need to come to a deal

26:36

and i will be welcomed at

26:38

the bargaining table so why would

26:40

i stop it's like trump and

26:42

his is a post yesterday said

26:44

um um If

26:46

Zelensky wants Crimea so bad, why didn't they

26:49

fight for it 11 years ago when it

26:51

was handed over to Russia without a shot

26:53

being fired? When

26:55

Russia went in with overwhelming

26:57

force, got no support from Ukraine,

27:00

had almost no support from

27:02

anybody at the time. They just

27:04

militarily talked about not having

27:06

the cards. They just couldn't stop

27:08

the bigger aggressor and their

27:10

powerful army at the time. So,

27:13

Trump said, if you want Crimea so bad,

27:15

why didn't you fight harder for it? What?

27:18

Well, yeah, Crimea is complicated.

27:21

Just for cultural reasons and the

27:23

history of it and the

27:25

rest of it. Yeah,

27:29

it's ugly. I

27:32

just, I, what's, what's your theory on

27:34

this? What is your theory on this?

27:36

I am completely, what Trump is doing?

27:38

Let's hear from JD Vance and then

27:40

maybe we can, Have that conversation. Well,

27:43

I'm going to echo something Secretary Rubio said,

27:45

which is, look, we've issued a

27:47

very explicit proposal to both the Russians and

27:49

the Ukrainians, and it's time for them

27:51

to either say yes or for the United

27:53

States to walk away from this process.

27:55

We've engaged in an extraordinary amount of diplomacy

27:58

of on -the -ground work. We've really tried

28:00

to understand things from the perspective of both

28:02

the Ukrainians and the Russians. What do

28:04

Ukrainians care the most about? What do the

28:06

Russians care the most about? And I

28:08

think that we've put together a very fair

28:10

proposal. I don't see

28:13

it. I don't see

28:15

what Putin has no interest in it.

28:17

I don't see what Putin has had

28:19

to give or what Ukraine gets out

28:21

of this. We've looked at both sides

28:23

and their needs and a fair proposal. Yeah,

28:25

Russia gets everything they want and Ukraine

28:27

gets nothing that they want is your proposal.

28:32

Yeah, I don't know what

28:34

to tell you. I don't

28:36

see a deal taking shape,

28:39

honestly. Well, let's listen the

28:41

Trump were to exhort enormous pressure, including

28:43

military pressure on Russia, which I just

28:45

don't see in the cards. Well, I

28:47

know some of you are pretty hardcore.

28:49

We shouldn't be involved in this. And

28:51

you agree with J .D. Vance. Obviously,

28:54

the Wall Street Journal does

28:56

not agree with that standpoint. Neither

28:58

does the New York Post

29:00

and neither does Britt Hume, the

29:02

senior political analyzer on Fox.

29:04

Here he is yesterday. He

29:08

keeps pounding Zelensky and saying it's

29:10

harder to deal with him than

29:12

it is with Putin. Putin

29:14

so far, as I can tell, hasn't

29:16

agreed to much of anything except, yes,

29:19

he'd love to annex Crimea, which is

29:21

part of the proposal that's before him

29:23

now. That's no concession.

29:25

That's just that. All that

29:27

is, is taking a gain. Zelensky

29:31

resists that because Crimea,

29:33

up until the Russians invaded

29:35

it 10 years or

29:37

so ago, was part

29:39

of Ukraine. So

29:42

I'm not exactly sure what

29:44

the president is talking about

29:46

when he says that Zelensky

29:48

has been more difficult to

29:50

deal with than Putin. They've

29:52

been a series of ceasefire

29:54

proposals. Putin either hasn't agreed

29:56

to them or has immediately broken them. I'm

30:00

not sure what concessions Putin will

30:02

ever be willing to make, but

30:04

he certainly hasn't made very many

30:06

so far. I

30:11

don't know how deep we want to get into

30:13

this. From

30:16

Putin's perspective, the

30:18

Crimea is like,

30:22

what would be a good analogy?

30:24

There really isn't a good one

30:26

for the United States, but it's

30:28

like the discussion about Greenland, except

30:30

much, much closer and much, much

30:32

more important. It's his only access

30:35

to open water to the south

30:37

there. When

30:39

it was part of the Soviet

30:41

Union, which was the Russian Empire

30:43

and interestingly enough Tom Cotton is

30:45

starting to refer to the Soviet

30:47

Union as communist Russia Which I

30:49

think smart because he's bringing younger

30:51

voters along they understand, you know,

30:53

I think it's clever anyway, but

30:56

when it was communist Russia they

30:58

had 24 -7 access to

31:00

their ports through Crimea obviously

31:02

because it was part of the

31:04

Soviet Union and then post -soviet

31:06

Union the Ukraine and its

31:08

government was Still pretty closely tied

31:10

tied to the former communists

31:12

and the oligarchs that that took

31:14

power and the rest of

31:16

it and so Russia had 24

31:18

-7 access to Crimea and then

31:21

when the Ukrainian government started

31:23

leaning strongly to the west they

31:25

started to lose access to

31:27

this critical military uh... asset

31:29

and that's why they invaded

31:31

so and and i say that

31:33

not to argue therefore putin's

31:35

a good guy and in the

31:38

right now explained to me

31:40

the bargain that struck on cry

31:42

mea that doesn't include something

31:44

close to total russian control that

31:46

putin would agree to i

31:49

don't see it My

31:52

opinion that's why we and NATO

31:54

needed to arm Ukraine to the point

31:56

that they militarily defeat Russia and

31:58

drive them out of there starting three

32:01

years ago actually starting ten years

32:03

ago But obviously that did not happen

32:05

Wall Street Journal. Mr. Trump's current

32:07

offer looks more like an ultimatum than

32:09

grounds for a durable peace Mr.

32:11

Trump is angry that Ukraine won't accept

32:13

the deal that legitimizes Russia's occupation

32:15

of Crimea as if this is a

32:18

minor map revision Mr.

32:21

Trump likes to say that Ukraine doesn't have

32:23

the cards, but it does have one. The

32:25

president won't be able to abandon Ukraine without

32:27

paying a heavy political price. I

32:29

don't know if I agree with that. The

32:31

Wall Street Journal editorial board. Do

32:34

you think Trump will pay a political

32:36

price for letting Russia get its

32:38

way here? I'm not sure. No,

32:40

I don't. I don't think it'll be heavy. I'd

32:43

be curious. I haven't seen polling on

32:45

this recently. Well, the polling shows, and I

32:47

saw it yesterday, the polling is Americans

32:49

are still overwhelmingly like two to

32:51

one in favor of Ukraine either

32:53

winning or us supporting them or

32:56

however he asked the question. But

32:58

I just, I don't think it ranks

33:00

as very high as an issue is my

33:02

thing. Yes. Even if it goes against

33:04

the majority, I just don't think most people

33:06

care enough. Sure. Every question like

33:08

that is too tiered. What would you like to

33:10

happen? Now, the follow up

33:12

question is at what cost? How much would

33:14

you be willing to pay for it?

33:16

And I think the answer is not enough

33:18

to get it done. The final word

33:20

from the Wall Street Journal editorial board, Mr.

33:22

Trump can still salvage a deal in

33:25

Ukraine, but the current final settlement offer looks

33:27

like it would set up Mr. Putin

33:29

to win the war an hour later. The

33:31

world's rogues will notice and Mr. Trump's

33:33

headaches will have only begun, which is

33:35

my belief. I mean,

33:37

if that isn't beyond a

33:39

signal, it's like stating to President

33:41

Xi, You can take Taiwan,

33:43

and we ain't gonna do nothing

33:46

about it. Good luck. Uh,

33:49

yes. Correct. Which

33:53

again, Trump and JD Vance might

33:55

say, that was true before Russia

33:57

invaded Ukraine, and it's true now.

34:00

If China wants to take Taiwan, they're going to,

34:02

and we ain't gonna stop them. The world

34:04

ain't gonna be able to stop them. Yeah, and

34:06

I don't mean to come off as cynical

34:08

or having given up, although I have to some

34:11

extent on certainly, uh, Crimea. You

34:13

can't always go in reverse

34:15

in life. Anybody with a

34:17

little life experience can tell

34:19

you that. When you've

34:22

concluded your stupid affair, for

34:24

instance, with some waitress and

34:26

realized you adore your wife

34:28

and it's the single most

34:30

moronic thing you will ever

34:33

do in your life, well,

34:35

that's fine, but you're already

34:37

there. You've already done it

34:39

and But I think to

34:41

a large extent the hesitation the

34:44

feckless response of the Biden administration Russia's

34:46

extremely strong interest in Crimea at

34:48

this point. There's no hit and rewind

34:50

There's no getting Crimea back. Russia

34:52

owns it and will until the day

34:54

I die about a bigger picture

34:56

the world order is that just over

34:58

is that cake baked Is it

35:01

just the US led world over order

35:03

is over and it's coming apart

35:05

and it's just that's just a fact

35:07

Yes some 10 % or 70 %?

35:09

I don't know. I think it's more

35:11

like probably 25%. Man, I think

35:13

once it starts, I think it goes

35:15

from 10 to 70 in a

35:18

couple years. I don't think so,

35:20

because we're still the strongest military

35:22

on earth. Although how strong like in

35:24

the Navy, naval realm remains to

35:26

be seen with China's incredible buildup. I

35:28

think, remember the people react

35:30

and countries react to that 20

35:32

% going away. We don't just

35:35

continue doing the same things.

35:37

I think we rise up and

35:39

say, uh -oh! As

35:41

a nation, call it

35:43

the uh -oh doctrine. Any

35:45

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why are you going third person? Because

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Clay, I think this ad is running

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in places that might not exactly align

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with all of our politics or even

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know who we are. It's impossible. But,

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maybe if it's true, I bet if

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even if they secretly won't admit it.

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37:34

kept honking at us. And

37:36

it would not move. It would

37:38

not let us out. No one from

37:40

customer support would actually move the

37:42

Waymo. So now we're walking on MoPak.

37:46

And our Waymo is still there. This

37:49

is insane Waymo. So

37:52

that's a good story right there. So

37:54

Waymo is the driverless taxis Which I

37:57

know a number of people that have

37:59

ridden in I can't believe I haven't

38:01

tried yet They've they make them in

38:03

Phoenix and so Phoenix is covered in

38:05

Waymo's and San Francisco I think is

38:07

the only other city in America I

38:09

think it's just Phoenix in San Francisco

38:12

right now that has Waymo's driving around

38:14

and I've seen them I'll confirm this

38:16

took place in Austin Oh,

38:18

okay, but I haven't written in one yet

38:20

and I've got to but a buddy of

38:22

mine. He's not a buddy of mine. He's

38:24

my insurance agent. He's a nice guy. I

38:26

wish we were friends, but I don't

38:28

think he likes me anyway He was sitting

38:30

in my cyber beast the other day because

38:33

I got rear -ended so you got to

38:35

see your insurance agent Anyway, and we're talking

38:37

about automated driving and all that sort of

38:39

stuff and I was asking him You know,

38:41

what are the insurance companies gonna do because

38:43

The claim is from Tesla that in 26

38:45

they're going full way mo They're

38:48

gonna go full automated Driving where

38:50

you don't have to pay attention autonomous

38:52

driving like Waymo is so you

38:54

know you can read or sleep or

38:56

do whatever you want And I

38:58

said are the insurance companies going to

39:00

allow that and he said well

39:02

first it'll be the the states allowing

39:04

it legally and Remember Waymo came

39:06

into like San Francisco originally they had

39:08

the rights to drive them around

39:10

then the city shut them down for

39:12

a while We're a couple of

39:14

wrecks that I don't know how they

39:16

earned their way back But they

39:18

drive all over the place in the

39:20

city allowed it. So it's possible

39:22

the state of California allows Of course,

39:24

wouldn't that be something if they

39:26

don't allow Tesla autonomous vehicles because they

39:28

know you know, right political thing

39:30

So here's what happened to these people

39:32

They they came to emerge where

39:34

two lanes became one and the car

39:36

just stopped. This is on a

39:38

major highway And as the lady

39:40

described, the cars were honking and they were

39:42

stuck for over five minutes and they just

39:44

requested to be let out of the car

39:46

to walk the rest of the way. They

39:48

were on the phone with a Waymo person. And

39:51

the representative kept insisting, I need a

39:53

specific address before unlocking the vehicle. And

39:55

the group told them over and over

39:57

again, we're at the merge lane. There's

39:59

not an address for a merge lane.

40:01

How do you write a letter to

40:03

a merge lane? One, two, three. Where

40:06

two lanes meet Boulevard anyway So

40:08

the car suddenly unlocked as they

40:10

walked away the car remained in

40:12

the same spot at a further

40:14

distance the car suddenly heard back

40:16

to life and drove past them

40:18

Now it wants to go she

40:20

said on her video The Going

40:22

the wrong directions one thing, you

40:24

know, you don't to be late

40:26

to wherever you're headed or something

40:29

but the on a freeway Stopped

40:31

and I can't get out I

40:33

would be seriously one worried and

40:35

two angry with the product. I'm

40:37

on a freeway where I could

40:39

get hit and I can't get

40:41

out of this damn thing. That's

40:43

nuts. Yeah,

40:45

Waymo spokesman said passengers can always

40:47

pause the ride and exit the vehicle

40:50

by pulling the handle twice. During

40:52

the ride, the passengers in the video press the

40:54

pull over button and the vehicle pulled to the

40:57

side of a 30 mile per hour road with

40:59

a sidewalk. So quit bitching.

41:01

Could be operator error. That's not

41:03

impossible. Yeah,

41:05

I suppose I don't know. She sounded

41:07

pretty sincere. Do you think as well

41:09

that they already have them? You

41:11

know way most you think this is

41:14

gonna happen like in a couple of years

41:16

where there's gonna be lots of cars

41:18

driving around you can sleep in and Drink

41:20

or whatever. I don't know what the

41:22

laws are going to be That whether legally

41:24

you can or just effectively you can

41:26

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42:03

year -round peace of mind when it comes to their

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vet care.