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1:47

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judge can't say, no, you have

2:00

to have a trial that lets The

2:03

trial is going to take two years

2:05

and we're going to have a very

2:07

dangerous country if we're not allowed to

2:09

do what we're entitled to do. And

2:11

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2:13

get them out. Rampant

2:17

uncontrolled immigration for years,

2:19

particularly as we're going to

2:21

discuss now from Venezuela. The

2:25

effort to get these people out of

2:27

the country as quickly and efficiently as possible,

2:29

running into a recent Supreme Court ruling

2:31

to discuss all of this. Please

2:34

welcome Art Arthur, resident fellow in law

2:36

and policy at the Center for Immigration

2:38

Studies. Art, how are you, sir? Joe,

2:41

I'm doing great. And my

2:43

best to all of your listeners. Well,

2:46

thank you. So correct me

2:48

if I'm wrong. I see this

2:50

as a great example of

2:52

if you Do the wrong thing

2:54

long enough. Doing

2:56

the right thing becomes more and

2:58

more difficult and that is

3:00

the challenge before us now. Yeah,

3:03

no, that's absolutely correct. And in fact,

3:05

you know, that was one of the

3:07

things that, you know, the center and

3:09

I were warning about as we went

3:12

through the Biden border fiasco is, you

3:14

know, millions, millions of, uh,

3:16

unvetted migrants poured into the United

3:18

States that the, you know, it was

3:20

setting up a perfect storm in

3:22

which removing those individuals from this country

3:24

and identifying the ones who are

3:26

truly bad was going to require an

3:28

all of government effort. And it

3:30

is that all of government effort that

3:33

the Trump administration is now implementing,

3:35

but, you know, this is going to

3:37

be a long slog and it's,

3:39

you know, going to take years for

3:41

us to undo all the damage

3:43

that was done over the past four

3:45

years. Yeah, one is reminded of

3:47

the Cloward Pivot and Pivot and Thratical

3:49

Left strategy of overwhelming the system

3:52

to break it. But let's just do

3:54

a minute on how we ended

3:56

up with so damn many Venezuelans, in

3:58

particular, trendy Uruguayan gang members

4:00

in the country. Yeah,

4:04

and you know, that's a great

4:06

question. I'll give you the 30

4:08

-second explanation. Up until the

4:10

Biden administration, we really didn't

4:12

get that many illegal Venezuelans. There's

4:14

a diaspora of Venezuelans who

4:16

have left the country ever since

4:19

it was turned into a

4:21

socialist basket case by Hugo Chavez

4:23

and then by his successor,

4:25

Nicolas Maduro. Once

4:27

the Biden administration took office, one of

4:29

the first things that it did was

4:31

it gave temporary protected status to Venezuelans

4:33

who were here. That meant we couldn't

4:35

deport them. But, you know,

4:38

the smugglers and the migrants don't read

4:40

the fine print of that. They assume

4:42

that everybody who came here would

4:44

be protected from removal. And so consequently,

4:46

we ended up with 400 ,000 plus

4:48

brand new Venezuelans who came into the

4:50

United States. The Biden administration, you know,

4:52

flailed around without was going to deal

4:54

with them. And it decided that

4:56

the best way to deal with them

4:58

to keep people from entering illegally from

5:00

Venezuela was to open our airports. two

5:03

Venezuelans who didn't, you know, have

5:05

any visas who hadn't been vetted. And

5:07

that really gets to the point, Joe. None of

5:10

these individuals have been vetted before they come to the

5:12

United States. If you get a legal visa, you

5:14

have to show that you're not a criminal. You got

5:16

to get a letter from your local police department

5:18

back home showing you don't have any crimes. We

5:21

don't have diplomatic relations with

5:23

Venezuelans. So consequently, Venezuela has no

5:25

interest whatsoever in telling us

5:27

who a month this population of

5:29

400 ,000 plus report in. are

5:31

good people and who aren't.

5:33

And so, unfortunately, it's local police

5:35

departments and now the FBI

5:37

that's having to uncover all the

5:40

activities of those individuals. Prende

5:42

Aragua, members and other criminals who

5:44

have come from Venezuela into the United

5:46

States, remember Joe? Donald Trump

5:48

was derided, criticized, you know,

5:51

mocked when he said that Venezuela

5:53

was opening its jails and

5:55

its mental institutions. Well, Nicholas

5:57

Maduro is an acolyte of Fidel

5:59

Castro, and that's exactly if you

6:01

remember what Fidel Castro did during

6:03

the Marielle Bogue crisis. So the

6:06

apple didn't fall far from the

6:08

tree in this particular instance. Yeah,

6:11

so we around here cherish the

6:13

idea of due process. It's the

6:15

idea that our country is based

6:17

on that if the government can

6:20

trample on your rights, eventually they

6:22

will. And so the whole system

6:24

is based around making sure that

6:26

the government has to prove it's

6:28

doing what it's doing in a

6:30

way that is legal and respect

6:32

people's rights. On the other

6:34

hand, if you allow the country to be flooded

6:37

with many millions of people, including... What do

6:39

you figure the number is from Venezuela, just so

6:41

I'm semi -accurate? you have any idea? So,

6:44

we know that more than

6:46

700 ,000, I think it

6:48

was 731 ,000 Venezuelans were eligible

6:50

for temporary protected status at

6:52

the time that Alejandro Mayorkas

6:54

issued his second designation of

6:56

the group in 2024. So,

6:58

you're talking about 750 ,000

7:01

people. Okay, that's

7:03

a hell of a lot of people. So,

7:05

having said what I said about due process, what

7:08

Would quote -unquote do process look

7:10

like in this situation because the

7:12

phrase can mean different things if

7:14

it means a criminal prosecution It's

7:16

beyond a reasonable doubt as judged

7:18

by a jury of my peers

7:20

if I've walked across the border

7:23

and 40 seconds later I'm apprehended

7:25

by the Customs and Border Patrol

7:27

quote -unquote do process of is a

7:29

very different thing so what did

7:31

the Skotis say the other day

7:33

because they had like a late

7:35

-night ruling and and what should

7:37

do process look like to deal

7:40

with all these gang members? Yeah,

7:42

no. I mean, you make so

7:44

many really important points that your listeners

7:46

really need to listen very carefully

7:49

to. That adjective do

7:51

in due process is

7:53

there for a reason. Due

7:55

process means different things in different

7:57

situations. And when it comes to an

7:59

individual at the border or at

8:02

the ports, Those individuals, according the Supreme

8:04

Court, only have the process rights

8:06

that Congress has given them. And in

8:08

that context, Congress hasn't given them

8:10

any. With respect to the

8:12

individuals who have been released into

8:14

the United States, they have slightly

8:16

more due process rights, but not

8:19

the full rights that are guaranteed

8:21

under the Constitution to United States

8:23

citizens. President

8:25

Trump is attempting to do here

8:27

is to invoke the alien enemies act

8:29

and people say, oh, it's from

8:31

1798. Yeah, it is. But it's also

8:33

codified. It's 50 US code section

8:35

21. And it permits the

8:38

president in the face of

8:40

an invasion or predatory incursion

8:42

to remove individuals under his

8:44

constitutional powers from the United

8:46

States who were viewed as

8:48

having participated in that invasion

8:50

or that incursion. In this

8:52

context, It's Trend Air Agua

8:54

members who followed that migrant

8:56

flow to the United States.

8:59

And in its first order

9:01

with respect to Trend Air

9:03

Agua in response to an

9:05

order that had been issued

9:07

by Judge Boesberg, James Boesberg

9:09

of the District Court in

9:11

D .C., the court said they're

9:13

entitled to some process. They

9:15

get notice of that they've

9:17

been charged or that they're

9:19

going to be removed under

9:21

this provision. But the

9:24

court also made clear

9:26

that by and large, the

9:28

lower courts, the district courts, have

9:30

to defer to the executive branch

9:33

in that determination. This is foreign

9:35

policy, Jeff. And this is something

9:37

that the court doesn't have any

9:39

competence in, let alone jurisdiction. They

9:41

can't say whether this is necessary

9:43

for the foreign policy, the United

9:45

States, or not. So, they're entitled

9:47

to, you know, notice and probably

9:49

an opportunity to say, I'm not

9:52

a trend -aerogable member, but by

9:54

and large, those district court

9:56

judges who are hearing those

9:58

cases in habeas are going

10:00

to have to largely defer

10:02

to the determinations of the

10:04

executive branch, specifically the FBI,

10:06

DHS, and the State Department.

10:10

Yeah, it seems a little ridiculous the

10:12

idea that if Maduro said you know

10:14

what I'll do and he did this

10:16

intentionally It is clearly an invasion clearly

10:18

a hostile act of a foreign power

10:20

But if he kind of only semi

10:22

accidentally did it then we've got to

10:24

give these guys hearings for years. That

10:26

just seems absurd to me Yeah,

10:29

and you know the Trump administration the

10:31

second one learned a lot from

10:33

the first Trump administration And

10:35

if you actually go back

10:37

and you read the foreign terrorist

10:40

organization designation from the State

10:42

Department on February 20, and you

10:44

look at President Trump's proclamation

10:46

invoking the Alien Enemies Act that

10:48

he issued on March the

10:50

11th, they actually go into the

10:52

political activities of trendy Iraq

10:54

when they say in essence uh...

10:56

that it operates in conjunction

10:58

with the maduro uh... regime and

11:00

that it supports the maduro regime's

11:02

goal of destabilizing democratic nations

11:04

in the america's including the united

11:06

states you know in nicholas

11:08

maduro the marx's strongman in uh...

11:10

venezuela is a bitter opponent

11:12

of the united states and we

11:14

don't like him either even

11:16

the by the administration would admit

11:18

that he was a legitimate

11:20

leader of the country And,

11:23

you know, the argument that the government,

11:25

that the president is making, in fact, it's

11:27

not even an argument, what he's found

11:29

is that this is part of an attempt

11:31

to undermine the United States, that these

11:33

crimes that they participate in, you know,

11:35

in the United States and throughout the

11:37

Americas are part of a plan. And,

11:39

you know, with that in mind,

11:41

this appears to be on pretty strong

11:43

legal ground for me and, you

11:45

know, even Bill Barr, Uh, you

11:47

know, former Trump administration attorney general, but

11:49

no fan of the president today said,

11:52

yeah, no, this is perfectly permissible for

11:54

them to do. We need to get

11:56

to the point in which the courts,

11:58

one court actually makes that determination. That's

12:00

going to become the law. And then all of

12:02

this is going to become very easy. And

12:06

as always, it'd sure be helpful if Congress

12:08

would stand up and do their jobs

12:10

and get good and specific about this stuff.

12:12

Art Arthur, resident fellow in Law and

12:14

Policy Center for Immigration Studies. Art, we sure

12:16

appreciate the time. Thanks for helping to

12:19

clarify some fairly complicated stuff for us. Thank

12:21

you so much, Joe. It's always an honor and a

12:24

pleasure. Thank

12:26

you. Likewise. Thanks very much. More to come. Stay with

12:29

us. The

12:33

other thing about Kauai is... You all right,

12:35

big fella? Yeah, I know. Go

12:37

ahead, keep talking, Jack. Yeah, we're on TV. I

12:39

know, we'll be done. Go ahead. Yeah, that's that

12:41

olive oil you've been drinking. I know. Hey, take

12:43

some matches with you. Hey

12:48

listen, he couldn't hold it. He can't hold it.

12:50

At the 40, he can't hold it no more. That's

12:52

the first. He can't hold it unless been

12:54

drinking the olive oil. The olive

12:56

oil and clean his gut. It's clean his gut. Hey

13:00

listen, I just hope

13:02

we got enough matches around here. Please turn this mic

13:04

off, that's all. Wow,

13:07

that was a lot of toilet talk

13:09

on the NBA today tonight or whatever

13:11

show. From Olderman, that show gets

13:13

huge ratings and makes huge money. It's

13:16

very amusing. It is. It's

13:18

very entertaining. So,

13:21

um, so did, did

13:23

J .D. Vance kill the Pope? That's

13:26

not my understanding of it. I mean,

13:28

I've watched a lot of crime dramas. He

13:31

says negative things about a guy. He

13:33

goes and meets with the guy for like three minutes. He walks

13:35

out of the room. A couple of minutes later, that guy's

13:37

dead. I don't know how these things work. I

13:40

know where I'd start the investigation. You bring in a

13:42

detective, the

13:44

Pope's, uh, What are

13:46

you doing with that hammer JD? Oh

13:49

good lord. Ah

13:51

That's over the line. You're sick.

13:53

I'm gonna claim it was the

13:55

medication or something, but so I've not

13:57

liked this pope for much of his popin I

14:00

know I wasn't hoping for his death

14:02

or anything I am I am

14:04

always amazed at how much attention the

14:06

whole pope thing gets I mean,

14:08

it's the it's the biggest Religion in

14:10

the world. I mean if you

14:12

even if you separate it from You

14:15

know Protestants I mean, it's bigger

14:17

than Baptist anything. It's bigger than

14:20

Islam. It's but it's the bigger

14:22

cat could also was the biggest

14:24

There's 1 .5 million billion Catholics

14:26

on earth. It's amazing But even

14:28

with that and I think there

14:30

are 80 million Catholics in the

14:33

United States. I'm surprised how much

14:35

attention up the Selection of the

14:37

Pope gets I think a lot

14:39

of it has to do with

14:41

the whole it's white people follow

14:43

the royal family. We like royalty,

14:45

we like the pageantry, we're built

14:48

for that, even though it's antithetical

14:50

to, you know, the way we

14:52

structure our society and our government

14:54

in theory. We just, we

14:56

like that sort of thing. The

14:58

pageantry, the robes, the slippers,

15:00

yeah. The somebody's all

15:02

powerful and that thing. I

15:05

think Catholics are clustered disproportionately

15:07

in the northeast of the

15:10

US too. Now,

15:12

and also in the Southwest certainly

15:14

with Hispanic folks who've joined

15:16

us recently, welcome. So

15:18

the mainstream media tends to

15:20

be like extra serious about it,

15:22

even if they're not Catholic, because

15:25

there's somebody next to them in the

15:27

newsroom who is, but yeah, you're right.

15:29

It has very, very little effect on

15:31

my life. I'm not anti. I don't

15:33

care that much. Hey, run 24 for

15:35

us, Michael. Little Andy Cooper here. Unlike

15:38

many other popes over the last

15:40

hundred years, he will not be buried

15:42

though in Vatican City. He's actually going

15:44

to be buried in Rome itself at

15:46

another Basilica, the

15:49

Basilica St. Maria

15:51

Margiore, which is

15:53

closer to the Colosseum, I apologize for

15:55

my bad Italian, is closer to the

15:57

Colosseum than it is to the Vatican. Nobody

16:00

cares do they? No,

16:03

well, that's what exactly and I don't know how

16:05

many I saw the fellows gonna

16:07

be buried. I mean, well, it's it's

16:09

more I don't know. It's less regal

16:11

and more man of the street, but

16:13

Yeah, I saw so many newscasts

16:15

lead with the you know the minutiae of this

16:17

and then he'll be moved to here and then

16:19

va and then in three days and I thought

16:21

Really? Are there that many people that are into

16:23

this? I also took in

16:25

a podcast where people were,

16:27

you know, several of them Catholics,

16:30

pointing out that while mainstream

16:32

media in America loved this guy

16:34

because he badmouthed America all

16:36

the time and sort of treated

16:38

him like he was this

16:40

new liberalizing, you know, lefty pope,

16:43

he wasn't really at all I

16:45

mean he was hardcore life begins

16:47

at conception no wiggle room whatsoever

16:49

on abortion being a sin I

16:51

mean just all of the you

16:53

know the core things he was

16:55

Solid on somebody told me when

16:57

he was alive I'd have been

17:00

more fond of them than I

17:02

was and remember he used the

17:04

term fagotry not that long ago

17:06

Some sort of hot mic moment.

17:08

He did not dig the gay

17:10

community being involved in the church

17:12

He wasn't he wasn't liberal on

17:14

any of those things at all,

17:16

but because he would occasionally badmouth

17:18

the United States and capitalism you

17:20

know the mainstream media just thought

17:22

it was fantastic yeah he was

17:24

more liberal on some issues i

17:26

know but i don't i don't

17:28

care i really i i don't

17:31

i'm I you and your

17:33

personal faith my friends we have more

17:35

than respect for and you practice it

17:37

in in whatever way you say is

17:39

ever feel is proper I'm about the

17:41

Constitution. I'm about our Individual rights and

17:43

that sort of thing and I just

17:45

I don't have much opinion on this

17:47

stuff Well, maybe this would get you

17:50

more interested a national review their their

17:52

take is It was founded by William

17:54

F. Buckley who was a lifelong very

17:57

strong Catholic person. But

17:59

National Reviews Take is the Catholic

18:01

Church is the most important institution in

18:03

Western civilization. It has been

18:05

forever and still is. So

18:07

if you look at it that way

18:09

and you Why? Want to

18:12

give us a 10 second version? I guess

18:14

because it's moral in... well not

18:16

I guess, I listened to them

18:18

talk about it and I read.

18:20

There it's moral leadership for all

18:22

of Western civilization for you know...

18:24

Hundreds and hundreds of years centuries.

18:27

And the constitution and rights

18:29

I cherish that I just mentioned

18:31

are absolutely inseparable from the

18:33

Judeo -Christian traditions. Sure. And moral

18:35

precepts of the world. Right. That's

18:38

true. You know, I have an open mind

18:40

about this stuff. That's an interesting perspective. I

18:42

don't know. Dust for Prince. Ask JD

18:45

some questions. That's all. Oh, no. I

18:47

mean, inappropriate. Retract that.

18:49

Armstrong and Getty. Hey,

18:52

how you doing? So I

18:54

was looking at uh video

18:56

jack just recommended I take

18:58

a look at that he

19:00

tweeted over the weekend uh

19:02

and it led me to

19:04

another fascinating topic but yeah

19:06

it was the uh trans

19:08

activists screeching like lunatics at

19:10

a small group of women

19:12

who are just saying only

19:14

women in women's sports a

19:16

controversial stance with the wide -eyed

19:18

craziness of I don't even

19:20

know what The

19:23

religious cultist right the radical you

19:25

know and some of them are

19:27

older than you'd expect Yeah, this

19:29

is a little way to be

19:31

screeching like a lunatic with spit

19:33

flying out of your mouth claiming

19:36

that men can declare themselves to

19:38

be women So the whole woke

19:40

world whether it's climate change trends

19:42

or whatever your aspect you're grabbing

19:44

on to at the time It

19:46

really is got a serious religious

19:49

thing going to it. Oh, yeah

19:51

Yeah, it has all the earmarks

19:53

of religion. Right. You know, the

19:55

original sin of being white, for

19:57

instance. And the only

19:59

way you can overcome that

20:01

original sin is by begging

20:03

us on your knees to

20:05

forgive you. Well, as I

20:08

was reading some of the

20:10

commentaries to that video by

20:12

like learned people and one person

20:14

pointing out, you can see

20:16

a not very long step

20:18

from those people's level of

20:20

anger to Muslim dudes

20:22

chucking rocks at some chick

20:24

to stoner to death because she

20:26

committed adultery. It's not a

20:28

giant leap. Oh, no, no, not

20:30

at all. Not at all. Some of those

20:32

people look capable of murder. Yeah, lunatics.

20:34

Wild. So, uh, and

20:37

interestingly enough, I saw a subsequent to that

20:39

on our Twitter feed. You were got into a

20:41

little, uh, well, you, you kind of

20:43

retweeted something from Tim Sandover. And

20:45

Tim was reacting to a tweet

20:48

by a dude named David Cole, who

20:50

was talking about Harvard, for instance,

20:52

and the other universities, how they

20:54

are now fighting against Trump and

20:56

how admirable that is. Because if you

20:58

give in to a mob boss,

21:00

that's the beginning, not the end of

21:02

one's servitude. Why Harvard chose not

21:04

to appease Trump. And

21:07

Tim pointed out that you

21:10

give into the mob boss when

21:12

you accept money from him when

21:14

the mob boss does that favor

21:16

for you that's when you say

21:18

no not when he comes back

21:20

to you later and expects you

21:22

to repay the favor then it's

21:24

way way way too late and

21:27

obviously the mob boss he's talking

21:29

about is these universities getting huge

21:31

buckets of federal taxpayer money cash

21:33

from the federal government various forms

21:35

of support And just

21:37

real quickly I thought it

21:39

was interesting the editorial board

21:41

at the Wall Street Journal

21:43

was talking about the Harvard

21:45

versus the Trump administration thing

21:48

and specifically the tax exempt

21:50

status question and I found

21:52

their argument pretty strong that

21:54

We're in a situation now

21:56

where and and y 'all

21:58

may remember this and we

22:00

went crazy over this When

22:02

Obama and his people in

22:04

effect declared any tea party

22:06

non -profit to be not a

22:08

charitable organization. We denied them

22:10

there. Is it 501c3? I

22:12

can never remember the tax

22:14

code. I'm not an

22:16

accountant. You're not? But

22:19

anyway, we started this show together. You said

22:21

you were an accountant. Well,

22:23

and that's why you did that short,

22:25

you know, jail term for your taxes.

22:27

I'm sorry. I thought I could handle

22:29

it. But anyway, so the fact that

22:31

Congress has to get involved in this

22:33

and you can't have the executive branch

22:35

declaring that, yeah, you were

22:37

tax -exempt last year, but you're not

22:39

now, because I hate what you're doing.

22:41

Uh -huh. And that Congress has got

22:43

to weigh in on this, because

22:45

when President AOC gets in there, what

22:48

the hell is she gonna revoke

22:50

the tax -exempt status for? Sure. I

22:52

mean, it's a nightmare in the making, so I

22:54

thought that was a pretty balanced and reasonable way

22:56

to look at it, which leads me to one

22:58

of my favorite things that I've read recently. And

23:02

Jack obviously feel free to interject

23:04

whenever you want, but the always even

23:06

killed Matt Taibi His headline is

23:08

the government the Harvard government divorce

23:10

is the feel -good story of the

23:12

ages When a couple should have never

23:15

been together and they finally break

23:17

up. It's a happy thing What

23:19

a funny analogy to use yeah taking

23:21

kind of a different tack than

23:23

Tim's a mob boss thing, but um

23:25

And then there's a paragraph of

23:27

a summary Harvard refused on Mondays

23:29

to submit to the this from the

23:32

New York Times editorial board Harvard

23:34

refused on Monday to submit to

23:36

the Trump administration's quest to command and

23:38

control America's higher education system quote

23:40

No government regardless of which parties and

23:42

powers should dictate what private universities

23:44

can teach whom they admit and

23:47

hire in which areas of study and

23:49

inquiry they can pursue blah blah

23:51

blah so Harvard is resisting So

23:53

Taibbi writes Harvard's bold decision to risk

23:55

an unsubsidized future with a mere

23:57

$53 billion in reserve is a feel

23:59

-good story everyone can share. The

24:01

federal government and corrupt higher education has

24:04

finally decided to divorce and it's

24:06

a beautiful thing. The Trump administration's war

24:08

on universities has been conducted with

24:10

its signature Japanese monster movie approach. Full

24:13

of smashed infrastructure, rivers of

24:15

screaming civilians, and battle scenes

24:17

so spellbinding, questions of right

24:19

and wrong go out the

24:21

window. Yeah,

24:23

that's really good. Yeah,

24:26

Tyvi is so good and when he thinks

24:28

Trump is right, he's absolutely eloquent in defending

24:30

him. And when he thinks he's wrong, you

24:32

know, the obvious. But this is

24:34

good writing. You can try to

24:36

weigh the administration's law -flouting, maybe

24:39

against the university's appalling sense of

24:41

entitlement, but I suspect many Americans

24:43

will abandon sides and just cheer

24:45

the spectacle of intractably self -regarding freaks

24:47

joined in aerial combat over the

24:49

Constitution. Harvard versus the Trump

24:51

monster should have been the next entry in

24:53

the Shin Godzilla series. And now it's

24:55

here. It's especially welcome if

24:58

the battle has a happy ending, which looks

25:00

likely as of the week's end. It

25:02

took a bizarre series of events to bring

25:04

us here. The prelude to the Trump -Harvard

25:06

battle was the administration's siege of Columbia,

25:08

taken with little struggle. And he gets into

25:10

how Columbia gave in pretty quickly, at

25:12

least temporarily. The ACLU suddenly

25:14

rediscovering its love for campus

25:16

speech freedom, railed that putting whole

25:19

areas of study in the

25:21

federal penalty box was a comical

25:23

violation of civil liberties. They

25:25

cited a 1957 case from

25:27

the McCarthy era. In it,

25:29

the New Hampshire Attorney

25:31

General investigated a professor and

25:33

the Supreme Court ruled, and

25:36

I'm summarizing this very quickly, but

25:38

when weighed against the grave harm resulting

25:40

from the government intrusion into the

25:42

intellectual life of a university, such justification

25:44

for compelling a witness to discuss

25:46

the content of his lectures appears grossly

25:48

inadequate. In other words, hands off, let

25:50

the universities run themselves. Let's not

25:52

trample on free speech to get rid

25:54

of one bad apple. Back

25:57

to Taibi. The issues in

25:59

1957 now are not that different. The High

26:01

Court then was right to conclude that

26:03

there's more damage in putting the state in

26:05

charge of reviewing academic speech than there

26:07

is in allowing instruction that some might conclude

26:09

to be not just anti -American, but threatening.

26:12

In the context of the time, that

26:14

was a hard decision, but the right

26:16

one. In this sense, the ACLU and

26:18

other traditional speech defenders are probably right

26:20

that the Trump -Columbia deal constituted a stunning

26:22

intrusion. Here's where

26:24

it turns though, less convincing were

26:26

commentators like historian Joan Scott, who

26:29

said Trump's actions were unheard of,

26:31

even during the McCarthy era, blah

26:33

blah blah. Coverage consistently ignored the

26:35

fact that Columbia has been a

26:37

poster child for decades long assault

26:39

by most all universities on academic

26:41

freedom as well as a serial

26:43

violator of Title VI of the

26:45

Civil Rights Act which requires that

26:47

public funds not be spent quote

26:49

in any fashion which encourages and

26:51

trenches subsidizes or results in racial,

26:53

color, national origin, discrimination. Wow. And

26:56

he goes into more detail

26:58

but the idea that Harvard,

27:00

Columbia, any of these people

27:02

would screech academic freedom when

27:04

they're being criticized is it's

27:06

it's vomit -worthy right and

27:08

remembering last week that harvard

27:11

finished last out of two

27:13

hundred and fifty oh yeah

27:15

university's in the free speech

27:17

last well done yeah that's

27:19

where we're heading So

27:21

it would be nice, he

27:23

writes, if the NYCLU acknowledged

27:25

that Columbia's record is replete

27:27

with moronic civil liberties offenses. It's

27:30

de -platformed with gusto, allowed

27:32

or encouraged to heckler's veto

27:34

shutdown of events, institutionalized compelled

27:36

speech diversity statements as part

27:38

of its admissions process, including

27:40

instructions on what to write,

27:43

like, when did your privilege

27:45

result in different treatment than

27:47

others? Oh, my

27:49

God. They are obscenely

27:51

anti -free speech these universities. It

27:53

has the same problem with the use

27:55

of race and admissions that Harvard tried

27:57

to defend and lost at the Supreme

28:00

Court, and its DEI program still infect

28:02

the curriculum with Iron Race Doctrine. Taihebe

28:05

is so good. The School of

28:07

Social Work to this day is

28:09

proudly waving the banner of the

28:11

PROP, or Power, Race, Oppression and

28:13

Privilege Framework. Okay, so Trump

28:15

administration said no DEI, so they

28:17

renamed it. Now it's PROP. Teaching the

28:19

same communist bull -ass and I'd love

28:21

to use the word. Which

28:24

makes the department's guiding principle the

28:26

idea that quote anti -black racism

28:28

and white supremacy are endemic in

28:30

our systems and institutions. So it's

28:32

precisely the same thing in the

28:34

same or with a slightly different

28:36

label. speech codes are issued in

28:39

a variety of forms. A Barnard

28:41

circulator even missed the irony of

28:43

the George Carlin routine in which

28:45

it outlawed a bunch of different

28:47

words. You remember the legendary

28:49

Carlin seven deadly or seven dirty

28:51

words or whatever. These practices

28:53

and more led Colombian 2022 to

28:55

being named the worst campus in

28:57

the country for free speech by

28:59

the Foundation for Individual Rights and

29:01

Expression, who we love, getting the

29:04

country's sole abysmal rating. Ironically,

29:06

Harvard would soon earn

29:08

a worse review. And

29:11

then he gets into, after October

29:14

7th, the horrific anti -Jewish Stuff

29:16

the anti -Semitic stuff the locking Jewish

29:18

kids in library not letting them

29:20

go to class and the rest

29:22

of it and But so and

29:24

and if you're new to the

29:26

show and we have a number

29:28

of new stations who are listening

29:30

Thank you very much for listening.

29:32

Hope you get used to it

29:34

and you like it stick around

29:36

for a while not always sick

29:38

Well, no no for instance Jack

29:40

is not always sick It's a

29:42

little different approach than a lot

29:44

of talk radio these days and

29:46

we are we are staunchly conservative

29:48

but Like Tai Ebi,

29:50

we can handle the idea that,

29:52

okay, maybe revoking Harvard's tax exempt status.

29:54

Maybe it's legit. Maybe it's not.

29:56

We need to take a look at

29:58

it and think about it, think

30:01

about ramifications of it. But I am

30:03

ready to die on the hill

30:05

of these universities claiming academic freedom is

30:07

precious and we must protect it.

30:09

I want to strangle them with both

30:11

my hands. Good Lord, that's

30:13

some of the most towering

30:15

naked hypocrisy I have ever

30:17

witnessed in my life and

30:19

I've witnessed a bit of

30:22

it. So I've always been

30:24

confused by this. So Harvard

30:26

has, famously now, 50 -some billion

30:28

dollars in their endowment. Why don't

30:30

they just self -fund everything

30:32

and just not answer to

30:34

anyone ever? Because they've

30:36

got the double gravy train going,

30:38

I guess. Well, and nobody's

30:41

asked them to answer to them. True.

30:43

They were able to be the worst

30:45

example of free speech of any college

30:47

campus in America and still get, what

30:49

was it, half a billion dollars a

30:51

year or whatever that we're getting in?

30:53

Oh, at least it was tremendous amounts

30:56

of money, yeah. Final note

30:58

for fans of Goodfellas. Actually, I think for Harvard

31:00

it was two billion, it was more like a

31:02

half a billion over at Columbia. Correct.

31:04

Yeah, I guess if you're... giving you two billion

31:06

and you still get to do whatever you want, why

31:08

would you want to end that? So

31:10

he uses the S -word here, I'll just

31:12

say poop. The Trump administration would have been

31:14

right to simply demand that Columbia cut the

31:16

recent poop and all their other poop. These

31:19

things are usually resolved on the sly. And

31:22

he quotes somebody hysterically, no

31:24

higher education institution has ever lost

31:26

all its federal funding. But Trump is

31:28

a different animal. He's dragging these

31:31

dramas in the open, making the IVs

31:33

dance for their federal crumbs in

31:35

the most humiliating conceivable manner, like Joe

31:37

Pesci shooting at the feet of

31:39

Michael Imperioli in the Goodfellas. No, I

31:41

thought you said, I'm all right,

31:43

spider. In what way am I funny?

31:45

And he's making them dance, which

31:47

is more or less what he's doing. Uh,

31:51

because he's Matt Taimi, he goes on for paragraph

31:53

after, after paragraph, but you get the idea. Well,

31:55

and where do you think most of the public

31:57

is on this? I

31:59

think the awareness of how

32:01

utterly corrupt and ideologically sick

32:03

the universities are, I think

32:05

the awareness is growing. Well,

32:07

I think, doesn't he? Maybe

32:10

I'm wrong. I feel like the average

32:12

American has a bad attitude toward Harvard.

32:14

Maybe I'm wrong. yeah i saw some

32:16

do you trust in uh... colleges and

32:18

universities as part of that whole do

32:20

you trust in the media law enforcement

32:23

the army blah blah blah and uh...

32:25

and their numbers are historically low which

32:27

is very encouraging first step of uh...

32:29

solving a problem is is being aware

32:31

of it so uh... reminds me talking

32:33

about a poll there's a poll came

32:35

out over the weekend from gallup which

32:37

is one of your better polling organizations

32:40

are uh... economic attitude is not good

32:42

right now I know you started the

32:44

show with some good news, but there

32:46

is some bad feelings out there. Maybe

32:48

we'll get to that and other stuff

32:50

coming up. Stay here. The

32:54

market is also

32:56

in general rendering harsh

32:58

judgments. Since April

33:00

2nd, Liberation Day, the

33:02

Dow has tumbled more than 9 %

33:04

over the first three weeks of

33:06

April, putting it on track to mark

33:08

its worst April since the Great

33:10

Depression, the Dow falling one thousand points

33:13

or more that's only happened nineteen

33:15

times in modern history and three of

33:17

those massive drops have happened since

33:19

liberation day i don't want to be

33:21

uh... pedantic but that uh... i

33:23

could find it that stat they keep

33:25

throwing around worst april since the

33:27

great depression is highly highly misleading but

33:29

uh... it doesn't obscure the fact

33:31

that clearly the markets of uh... had

33:34

a had a bad month or

33:36

so I don't think it's being overly

33:38

pedantic to point out that Jake

33:40

Tapper is full of crap. Yeah,

33:42

everybody's saying that because you can

33:44

use a statistic where that is true.

33:48

So Gallup has been asking this

33:50

whole century since 2000, how

33:52

you feel about your personal financial

33:54

situation? Very broad question. Do you think

33:56

it's getting better, getting worse, or

33:58

staying the same? And since

34:00

they started asking the question, it's

34:03

never crossed 50%. It's

34:06

usually hanging around in the mid -30s

34:08

of people who say that their financial

34:10

situation is getting worse. It

34:13

almost hit 50

34:15

in 2008. It

34:18

almost hit 50 at the beginning of

34:20

the COVID, but then it would go back

34:22

down to the 30s or 40s or

34:24

whatever. It is now for the first time

34:26

this century, or since they've been asking

34:28

the question, at 53 % of Americans think

34:30

their financial situation is getting worse. Well,

34:34

Jake Tapper's a little

34:36

screed there as misleading as

34:38

it might be and

34:40

the poll numbers all indicative

34:42

of people's uncertainty and

34:44

worry over number one, the

34:46

firing of Jerome Powell, the

34:49

chairman of the Fed, and

34:51

also the trade war with China

34:53

and other countries. Well, the president

34:55

came out the other day, 42

34:57

Michael. Never whatsoever. Never

35:00

did. the press runs away

35:02

with things. Now, I have no intention of

35:04

firing him. I would like

35:06

to see him be a little

35:08

more active in terms of his idea

35:10

to lower interest rates. This is

35:12

a perfect time to lower interest rates.

35:16

If he doesn't, is it the end? No, it's

35:18

not. But it would be good timing. It would be, it

35:21

could have taken place earlier. But

35:23

no, I have no intention to fire him. Didn't

35:26

he just like a truth out? guy

35:28

can't be fired soon enough okay well

35:30

no evidently he's not going to so

35:32

buy some stocks not only that but

35:34

this i'm not going to say oh

35:36

i'm going to play hardball with china

35:38

i'm going to play hardball with you

35:40

president chi no no we're going to

35:42

be very nice they're going to be

35:45

very nice and we'll see what happens

35:47

but ultimately they have to make a

35:49

deal 145 percent is very high and

35:51

it won't be that high It's not

35:53

going to be that high. It'll come

35:55

down substantially, but it won't be zero.

35:58

It used to be zero. We were

36:00

just destroyed. China was taking us for

36:02

a ride and just not going

36:04

to have, it's not going happen We're

36:07

going be very good to China. So

36:09

Powell stays and the trade war

36:12

war is going to be a trade

36:14

negotiation. Well, I was trying

36:16

to find what was the actual term

36:18

he used for Powell the other day called

36:20

him an idiot or I mean it

36:22

was pretty hard oh just like three days

36:24

ago he called Powell major loser and

36:26

he could not come fast enough that he

36:28

leaves The press runs

36:30

away with these things I never had any

36:32

intention and I wouldn't mind if he

36:34

was a little faster on the whole. but

36:37

I guess asking for more disciplined

36:39

messaging from Trump at this point

36:41

is like asking for a pony

36:43

for Christmas but boy that'd

36:45

be great wouldn't it? anyway the idea

36:47

is not not so. It'd be interesting

36:49

to see if people's negative attitudes stay

36:51

this way for a long time Great

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