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The idea of a son centered
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or helio centric universe first started
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to arrive on the scene in
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the late Fifteen hundreds and early
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sixteen hundreds, and Europe there was.
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A. Very reasonable Objection:
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To. The idea. In. This objection
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came from Tiger Bri. hey perhaps
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the greatest strong were to ever
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live at least according to take
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over. I any said, look. Let's.
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Say we live in a solar system. Cute name
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by the way for. For this set
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up in the earth revolves around the
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sun. That means over the course of a
0:57
year the earth changes position by over
0:59
one hundred eighty million miles. The A one
1:01
during the summer were on this side of
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the solar system during the winter on
1:06
the opposite side. That's a big difference. That
1:08
means if I look at a distance
1:10
to are. From. These two
1:12
vantage points, then the position of the
1:14
star on this guy should slightly change
1:16
because I'm looking at it from this
1:19
these vastly different reference points And so
1:21
he went out to perform their measurement
1:23
and found no. Shift
1:25
imposition with the stars at all. And he
1:27
was the world's greatest astronomer. So if anyone's
1:30
gonna do it, it's him. As
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we said, look at like I
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understand mathematics and that. We.
1:38
Have one of two situations: This
1:40
lack of observation of the shift
1:42
of the positions of stars. Busy
1:45
their means that. The. Earth
1:48
is the center of the universe in which
1:50
case over the seasons you will never see
1:52
a shift because you always have the same
1:54
perspective or are you know we could live
1:57
in essence entered universe as solar system healers,
1:59
injured universe. But in order for this
2:01
to be true, the stars have to be
2:03
so far away that it's impossible for me.
2:06
the world's going strong a month to measure
2:08
a shift in their position. When my, according
2:10
my calculations, they have to be at least
2:12
seven hundred times for their when and center.
2:16
And we know. That. The nearest
2:18
stars are a little bit more. Than.
2:21
Seven hundred times for their women Saturn
2:23
And instead I'll admit it's a little
2:25
funny to think back about how ridiculous
2:27
as as like oh my gosh the
2:29
star Seven hundred times where the rings
2:31
that they're like seventy thousand times for
2:34
their witness or in the near starts
2:36
by a tux. Hundred years to resolve
2:38
yo Tengo Bri Raise this objection in
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the early sixteen hundred. It wasn't until
2:42
eighteen thirty's a bad. an amateur astronomer
2:44
Friedrich Basil finally managed to measure the
2:46
distance to a star. It was some
2:48
random star sixty one Sydney It's about
2:50
ten. Light years away. He also invented the
2:53
term lightyear by the way to communicate how
2:55
vast, vast distances. Two
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Hundred years. To.
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Measure the distance to one
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of our nearest neighbor stars.
3:06
Two centuries. Tyco brought his
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objections to it. And
3:12
even know astronomers would eventually adopt
3:14
the he was centric model. Mostly.
3:17
Because it made horoscopes easier to protect
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the that's a Different episodes. Even.
3:21
Though they did this in adopted they could they
3:23
knew they are like well. Geico,
3:26
Was kind of right. The. Stars
3:28
should be measurable. This shift should
3:30
be measurable, of course, across the
3:32
seasons, and took two centuries to
3:34
answer that. I mention this because
3:36
we're about to casually discuss distances
3:39
and measurements, and I just wanted
3:41
to be a little bit crowded.
3:43
Than. Actually taking these measurements and
3:45
achieving these distances are just a
3:48
little bit challenging. It took
3:50
two hundred years of work for
3:52
us to get our first reliable
3:54
distance measured to a store. That
3:56
star was ten my years away.
4:00
Obviously we've gotten a lot better at it.
4:03
Since. The eighteen thirties, but it took
4:05
a long time. Over. Two hundred years
4:07
of having telescopes before we could really
4:09
nail this, and so I just want
4:11
us to ground this discussion now that
4:13
were properly granted we can explore very
4:16
distant things, which is pretty fun. By.
4:18
The Way: I also like to point
4:20
out that. Distances.
4:23
Measurements in astronomy are
4:25
incredibly difficult because they're
4:27
to challenges. One. It.
4:29
Sometimes. Things are just really really far
4:32
away which makes them them on our
4:34
sky which makes it hard to see
4:36
and hard to measure. Also, some things
4:38
are just by nature small and him
4:40
in makes it very very difficult spot.
4:42
The Oh, we had this whole discussion
4:45
recently about near earth objects and how
4:47
hard they are defined even though they're
4:49
really close to us, closer than the
4:51
nearest stars that's for sure. But they're
4:53
so small in there so damned are
4:55
almost impossible to seats. In example of
4:57
this is random facts. We were able.
4:59
To measure. The. Distance to
5:02
stars both for we
5:04
discovered the planet net.
5:08
I'll say that again cause is
5:10
pretty wild. We were able to
5:12
measure distances the Sars before we
5:14
even knew that Neptune existed. In.
5:17
Even though Neptune is really
5:19
close, It's comparatively
5:22
small, and him. Astronomy.
5:25
Is kind of challenging. That's why to science. And
5:28
that's also what makes it so
5:30
much. by the most distant planet
5:32
that you can see. by the
5:34
way with the naked eye is
5:36
is almost always Saturn. Some people
5:38
can see Uranus the next most
5:41
discipline out. It appeared in some
5:43
old star catalogues of but it
5:45
was mistaken for a planted a
5:47
It's It's like probably below the
5:49
vision of almost everybody eats. but
5:52
some people can. At. Least claim
5:54
to see Uranus. I'm not gonna always believe
5:56
them by it's at least make him there's
5:58
those Read on. these. The most recent
6:00
plenty you can see when it comes
6:03
to stars. The nearest visible stars Alpha
6:05
Centauri, which is about foreign a quarter
6:07
light years away. That means
6:09
that the light from Alpha Centauri last
6:11
over four years ago. Think of what
6:14
you're doing for years ago. At this
6:16
time, For. Here says quite
6:18
a ones are in and all that
6:20
time Think bag the four years. it's
6:22
that this season's coming and going. Maybe
6:24
your kids getting older? Maybe you getting
6:26
nowhere. Few more gray hairs here and
6:28
there for years. And.
6:31
That light started that journey. for
6:33
years. goodness been sailing through interstellar
6:35
space all that time before seemingly
6:38
landing on your retina. Is.
6:40
Just one of these astounding aspects
6:42
of astronomy that I always absolutely
6:45
adore. For.
6:47
Years about like could have graduated high
6:49
school in that time. This is crazy.
6:52
Anyway, as for the most distant star the
6:54
you can see with the naked eye, I
6:56
need to make a little digression here. And.
7:00
We. Need to talk about the absurd
7:02
and some more comical system that astronomers
7:04
used to measure how bright things appear
7:07
in the sky because this this number.
7:09
this measurement is not going to come
7:11
up so much in this episode By
7:13
been Honestly have been wanting to talk
7:15
about A for a while and this
7:17
is the perfect way to do it.
7:20
And you're going to encounter this. If
7:22
you are in any way associated with
7:24
Astronomy Nerdy three you will encounter this
7:26
kind of measurement system for measuring by
7:28
Mrs because it makes no sense. And
7:31
is absolutely confusing. So.
7:33
In. In your life you are going
7:35
to encounter the system, especially at all those
7:38
winky fancy astronomy parties and I want you
7:40
to feel like you belong. So
7:42
here's this system that astronomers
7:44
used to measure brightness. Like.
7:47
The a calibration like a temperature scale
7:49
or size scale. This is their scale.
7:53
To. Start off: we need to acknowledge the
7:55
different objects have different brightness. This
7:57
is a generally true statement. Another
8:01
generally true steam is that some
8:03
times objects can of beer brighter.
8:05
because they're genuinely brighter, they're giving
8:08
off more light. In some times,
8:10
objects can of Beer bride or
8:12
simply because they're closer. For
8:15
example, Jupiter is giving off far
8:17
less light then Alpha Centauri better.
8:20
Jupiter appears much brighter on the
8:22
sky because it's so much closer
8:24
to us. We measure the be
8:26
true amount of light coming off
8:28
an object with something called the
8:31
luminosity. So objects with
8:33
greater luminosity are emitting more raw
8:35
power of light that's connected to
8:37
the brightness that we see. But
8:39
there's more to the story because
8:42
we have to fold distance to
8:44
get s measurement of the actual
8:46
brightness that we perceive. On
8:49
our sky, stars have a variety
8:51
of brightness is regardless of their
8:53
true luminosity. Some stars a brighter,
8:56
some appeared dimmer, sometimes they're bright
8:58
because they genuinely are larger, brighter,
9:00
more intense, more luminous stars and
9:02
sometimes next back in the day
9:05
we didn't know this. We didn't
9:07
know that the stars were distant.
9:10
We. Didn't know that the stars had different
9:12
distances from us. We assume that they are
9:14
all just pasted on the celestial sphere. I'll
9:16
be on the orbit of the planets. And
9:20
so all we had was just
9:22
okay. Some stars like Serious and Builders
9:24
looks super bright and a bunch of
9:26
other random nobody stars don't look super
9:29
bright. So the Ancient
9:31
Greeks and yes were digging way into
9:33
the back catalogue for this system devised
9:36
the scheme. Where they
9:38
classified stars according to
9:41
magnitude. They. Said that
9:43
stars of the first magnitude where
9:45
the brightest. Stars. Of
9:47
the second magnitude where the next brightness
9:49
all the way down to stars of
9:52
the six magnitude. So they had six
9:54
categories. Six buckets for brightness is of
9:56
stars in the top pocket the first
9:58
magnitude where the. Right Just once.
10:01
And then the second brightest category
10:03
thoroughbred is category Movie Six with
10:05
my six subdivisions. And for these
10:07
magnitudes for these categories, I mean
10:09
first, why not get off my
10:12
back and we can just do
10:14
whatever we want if we feel
10:16
like it? Second, this magnitude system
10:18
was devised so that very roughly
10:20
remember this is all done by
10:23
I was no precision measurements whatsoever.
10:26
With the. System was devised to
10:28
that roughly stars in one magnitude
10:30
were half as bright as the
10:32
stars in the next magnitude. I.
10:35
Saw. The very top. In your first magnitude
10:38
Sars you have the absolute brightest stars by.
10:40
I use that one. That one that won.
10:42
that one that when they're all pretty much
10:44
the same brightness, they're all the brightest. Pop.
10:46
Price. Then you look
10:49
at Sars. They're roughly half as bright,
10:51
which is as good as you're gonna
10:53
get by in those good in the
10:55
second category, and then half as bright
10:57
as that go in the third category.
10:59
Once you get down to the six
11:01
magnitude, there are no more stars that
11:03
you can see. There are the seventh
11:05
magnitude stars are half as bright as
11:07
the dimmest stars you can see on
11:09
the sky. And so that it. Like
11:12
I said, this is all sketchy is
11:14
all very rough gases. this was all
11:16
firmed up in standardized in the nineteenth
11:18
century as was the fashion the time
11:20
in. So that's why when we talk
11:22
about. Seller. Magnitudes
11:24
which is different than their
11:26
luminosity. The luminar sees the
11:28
raw power coming out of
11:30
the starts. The magnitude is
11:33
a measure of the brightness
11:35
that we see on the
11:37
sky and that's why lowered
11:39
number magnitudes means blade or
11:41
starts a magnitude one star.
11:44
Or. A star with a magnitude
11:46
of one. Is. Brighter than
11:48
a star with the magnitude of to.
11:51
Which. Is. Complete opposite to what
11:53
you think it would be. You think, okay, if
11:55
something's brighter, it should have a larger number attached
11:57
to it. I know, that's how you think. And
12:00
instead we need to think of it as
12:02
a yowling of greatness. Sewers,
12:04
A magnitude One our first rank
12:06
there at the top of the
12:08
orders stores a second magnitude our
12:10
second ranked. So the zone rank
12:12
ordering of brightness of stars. Which.
12:15
Is okay weekend? kind of. Except that.
12:18
Except this is where it gets really
12:20
weird. That. Kind of magnitude.
12:23
The magnitude that we see with
12:25
the naked eye on our sky
12:27
is known as apparent magnitude. The
12:29
perceived magnitude: Once astronomers were able
12:32
to finally measured the distances to
12:34
the stars, they to correct the
12:36
apparent magnitude because some stars are
12:39
break because they're close. Some Sars
12:41
look very very dim to us,
12:43
but in actuality are incredibly bright.
12:46
They're just super far away. so
12:48
we need to switch from what
12:50
we call apparent magnitude. To.
12:53
Absolute Magnitude. Absolute
12:55
magnitude is the magnitude that you would
12:57
measure from a standardized distance of ten
13:00
parsec. The way. So by forty layer,
13:02
why ten percent And I know the
13:04
scene convenient at the time be Absolute
13:07
magnitude is connected to the luminosity of
13:09
the sar. Because now you're
13:11
doing an Apples to Apples comparison.
13:13
You're ignoring distance. You're looking at
13:15
the true brightness. We call this
13:17
the absolute magnitude. And once you
13:19
make this correction for distance, once
13:22
you standardized the distance stars can
13:24
be. Way. Wacky.
13:26
Great. Because. The
13:28
stars that our first magnitude to
13:31
our eyeballs. Looks pretty
13:33
bright in in in general they're
13:35
pretty bright stars but then there's
13:37
some random. Then. Star that
13:39
just happens be super far away in
13:41
a viewer to get up close to
13:43
it's it's way brighter than serious Them
13:46
Beetlejuice than any of the bright stars
13:48
on the Vegas. Any of the bright
13:50
stars on our sky way brighter. So
13:53
he was got a problem. The
13:55
brightest stars are. First.
13:58
Ranked first magnitude. And.
14:00
We've already decided that dimmer stars
14:02
are second rancor, third rank, or
14:04
fourth ranked. So so what's brighter
14:06
than a first rank star? A
14:10
zero rank store. And.
14:12
Was brighter than that. On. On
14:14
a negative ones break star and than
14:17
a negative to say. Rank.
14:19
Star. Because
14:23
as the opposite during the there's no other
14:25
directions to go. So now thanks to the
14:27
ancient Greeks. Who decided on a
14:29
rank ordered system for measuring in
14:31
categorizing stellar brightness that we see
14:33
them with the naked eye when
14:35
the awkward position of calling Civil
14:37
Rights or something like Beetlejuice has
14:39
an absolute magnitude of negative seven
14:41
point Two and that's supposed to
14:43
indicate that this is far brighter
14:45
than a negative for magnitude star
14:47
or three magnitude star like this
14:49
makes any sort of sense whatsoever.
14:52
A where I just wanted to fill you
14:54
in because you are guaranteed to our encounter
14:56
this horrible system and you can thank the
14:58
ancient Greeks for the mess where it. And.
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We've covered that the nearest star
16:29
that we can see. Which.
16:32
Is Alpha Centauri that is not the nearest started
16:34
the or that's proximal Suntory which is a little
16:36
bit closer but because Bronx miss and is a
16:38
red dwarf we can't see a with her naked
16:40
eye. The brightest star
16:43
we see on the sky serious ak the
16:45
dark star which is totally a really bright
16:47
star but it's only eight point six light
16:49
years away so gets to be nice and
16:51
bright on it's own and he gets to
16:54
be super close. As
16:56
for the most distant star visible with
16:58
the naked eye, that's a bit of
17:00
for debate because a everybody has different
17:02
eyes and be stars have a tendency
17:04
to very in brightness. They can be
17:06
all over brighter in a low but
17:08
dimmer. With those caveats aside,
17:10
when you ask okay on
17:12
average what is the most distant
17:15
star visible to the most number
17:17
of naked eyes with the
17:19
oh decent functioning night vision across
17:22
the world he owed taking away
17:24
light pollution and all that stuff.
17:26
It's the general consensus is a
17:29
little star while actually to
17:31
big starts in the constellation Cassiopeia
17:33
is called be Seven Six Two
17:36
Cats is a variable star
17:38
so I'd it's dimmest. As an
17:40
apparent magnitude of six point O
17:42
Two, and as it's brightest, a
17:44
whopping five point Nine two, The
17:46
it's Either way. It's like right
17:48
at the edge of human visibility.
17:51
Without a telescope, without binoculars without
17:53
anything. And you need an absolute
17:55
career. Crystal clear dark sky night in
17:57
order to see it. but it's there.
18:00
Right at the edge. Visibility
18:02
in reality. It. Is one
18:05
hundred thousand times more luminous than
18:07
the sun, it is putting out
18:09
a hundred thousand times more light
18:11
dinner, own son. Which.
18:14
Is insane. But
18:16
it's over sixteen thousand light
18:18
years away, which is why
18:20
it looks so damn. To.
18:22
Us. Let. That sink in.
18:26
The light that left this tiny
18:28
star. In. The constellation
18:30
Cassiopeia left. The
18:32
surface of that source. sixteen. Thousand.
18:36
Years ago. Sixteen.
18:39
Thousand. that is before writing. That.
18:42
Is before cities. That.
18:44
Is. Somewhere around the dawn
18:46
of agriculture, maybe even before. The.
18:49
Sun remembering right? Sixteen.
18:52
Thousand years that light has
18:54
traveled the interstellar debts before
18:56
reaching your. Eyeball.
18:59
This star hundred thousand times brighter than the
19:02
sun is so bright you would literally melt
19:04
your face off if you're to approach it.
19:07
In. It is so far way that despite all
19:09
of it's power. And. All of it's
19:11
for of see it appears as only the
19:13
dentist. Pinprick, Of light. Owners
19:16
Guy. All. The stars that
19:18
we see with the naked eye without a
19:20
telescope or giants. They're much more massive than
19:22
the sun. They're the only ones bright enough
19:24
to be seen at interstellar distances, even a
19:27
few light years away. With the naked eye,
19:29
stars like our sun. Star. Smaller
19:31
than the sun are just too dim
19:33
to overcome the light years of distance
19:35
between them and us, making them invisible
19:38
without a telescope. Give you a sense
19:40
of how me sars there really are in that
19:42
volume. Contained by the
19:44
distance to be seven six, two
19:46
cats. That. Sixteen thousand light years
19:48
the maginot of a sphere with
19:51
a radius of sixteen thousand light
19:53
years going right off the zoo
19:55
be seven six two casts with
19:57
in that volume within as fear
19:59
their about nine thousand stores visible
20:01
to the human eye. There's.
20:04
About a million more. That.
20:06
Are invisible to us. But.
20:09
Well, that's the most distant star.
20:12
It's not the most distant saying
20:14
that honor goes to a petri.
20:16
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Absolute and a bear and magnitudes
20:35
in the negatives. All. Across
20:37
the universe I truly do appreciate know the
20:39
actual i'm most distant thing that you can
20:41
see with the naked eye is the Andromeda
20:43
Galaxy. For ever we
20:45
thought it was a nebula, just a collection
20:47
of gas and dust and random stars. And
20:49
then in the nineteen twenties, Edwin Hubble discovered
20:51
that it's it's a mere two and a
20:53
half million light years away, You.
20:56
Can't see. Any
20:58
individual star in the Andromeda Galaxy,
21:01
but there's around a trillion of
21:03
I'm and so they combine their
21:05
life together to make. Of
21:07
of vague fuzzy patch on our guides of the
21:09
most visually impressive thing but it's there and when
21:11
you look at his. You. Take that
21:14
into account that light travel time to and
21:16
a half million light years? That means to.
21:18
And a half million years ago Still, even
21:20
humans back then. When.
21:22
The light from Andromeda started
21:25
it's journey. And we're not
21:27
talking interstellar distances. We're talking
21:29
intergalactic distances. That. Like
21:32
has sailed through the void for millions
21:34
of years in a landed. On.
21:36
Your eyes I'd this like you are
21:39
literally connected to the stars, not an
21:41
astrological gun. Away by a physical kind.
21:43
away like light from distant stars is
21:45
now touching your eyes. It's becoming a
21:48
part of you. This is amazing. There's.
21:50
Still one more thing more distant and that
21:53
we can see in these are rare train
21:55
the in events were talking explosions here. Most.
21:58
of the visible supernova that become apparent
22:00
on our sky happen in our galaxy
22:03
but there are more powerful explosion say
22:05
occur throughout the inverse like gamma ray
22:07
bursts. There. Was a gamma
22:10
ray burst back in? two thousand and
22:12
eight that was visible. To. The
22:14
naked eye for about thirty seconds before
22:16
faded away so feel happened to be
22:18
looking at just the right patch of
22:20
the sky. At night you'd see a
22:22
low bright star of actually more like
22:24
a dim star like just barely appear
22:26
on the edge of human vision before
22:29
going away on the distance to that.
22:31
This particular one it was Gr B
22:33
O Eight O Three One Nine P
22:35
For those of you keeping score home
22:37
in this explosion when ass or seven
22:39
point five billion light years away. Seven.
22:42
Point: Five billion years.
22:45
That's. Amazing. That's amazing. Obviously, with
22:47
the telescope, the universe opens up
22:50
before us because telescopes aren't like
22:52
buckets. They. Allow us to
22:54
see both very dim things because they
22:57
can collect more light than a human
22:59
eye, and they allow us to see
23:01
very small and distant things because they
23:04
offer greater of resolution through magnification. So
23:06
those two. Properties. Of
23:08
a telescope combined allow us
23:10
to see. Really? Really
23:13
really far. We. Can
23:15
see we can map stars. Piercing.
23:18
Into the Milky Way. Tens
23:20
of thousands of light years, which is
23:22
the individual stars. We can see individual
23:25
galaxies. We've mapped galaxies out billions of
23:27
light years away, Done. Surveys of
23:29
them but even are most advanced
23:31
telescopes and I really should do
23:33
an. Episode. On upcoming
23:35
mega observatory so please just ask.
23:38
Can't. See them most distant stars
23:40
and the most distant galaxies alone.
23:44
The. Most distant ones, the ones at
23:46
the very edge of the observable universe.
23:48
they're just too far away. There two
23:50
small there to dance. Even with the
23:52
James Webb Space Telescope or the very
23:55
see Rubin Observatory or the Thirty meter
23:57
tells grave are shiny and mega observatories.
24:00
It's just too much.
24:03
They. Can do it. Thankfully.
24:06
Major. Helps us along with a little
24:08
trick. In that trick is called gravitational
24:10
lensing. The same look
24:12
at a distant galaxy. And. Between
24:14
me and that galaxies is a
24:17
big old massive object. Like a
24:19
galaxy cluster. Like something really big
24:21
and heavy. It's that massive galaxy
24:23
cluster as a lot gravity. And
24:26
so it bends space around it
24:28
very very strongly. And what happens
24:31
is that light coming out of
24:33
that distant galaxy that distant objects
24:35
as it approaches the galaxy cluster
24:38
that that's in the middle. The
24:40
intervening galaxy cluster the like it's
24:43
ends. In it acts
24:45
like a lens and eggs literally
24:47
like a magnifying lens. As is
24:49
the exact same equations that tell
24:52
us how base and so if
24:54
things line up just right, we
24:56
can look through a galaxy cluster,
24:58
adam even more distant objects and
25:01
the light from that object will
25:03
be expanded and it will be
25:05
amplified. We can get magnification effects
25:08
up to ten thousand times. Imagine
25:11
a pair of binoculars I
25:13
can magnify by power of
25:15
ten thousand. That. Is
25:17
what we are able to do with
25:19
his gravitational lensing technique. So.
25:22
When were very careful and very
25:24
observant, we can occasionally get a
25:26
glimpse of objects sitting even deeper
25:28
into the dark, far beyond the
25:30
reach of even are most powerful
25:32
telescopes. With. That technique, we
25:34
can now meet the most distant
25:36
known individual star. The Sars
25:39
called Errand him and yes, that's a
25:41
nerdy Lord of the Rings reference, which
25:43
is itself a nerdy reference to a
25:46
the Anglo Saxon Mess of the Morningstar.
25:48
That. Morningstar Arundel individually image
25:51
I guess single spec,
25:53
a single start seen
25:55
through gravitational lensing. Around
25:58
age massive galaxy. After.
26:00
That. Star since roughly twenty
26:03
eight billion. Light. Years
26:05
away, This. Is truly mind
26:07
boggling to meet a due to the
26:09
expansion of years. We know that the
26:11
star formed roughly nine hundred million years
26:13
after the big banks, making it among
26:16
the first generation of stars to ever
26:18
appear. This. Is.
26:21
Nearly. Thirteen billion years old. The.
26:24
Stars of over than the earth. Older.
26:27
Than our solar system. Older than the
26:29
entire Milky Way galaxy. Is
26:31
doubtful the air and dell still exists. Bright
26:33
stars like this do not live long. That
26:37
means this star hasn't existed
26:39
in our universe for billions
26:41
of years. And. Yet it's
26:43
light still remains the if I was in
26:45
a more poetic mood there be something beautiful
26:47
to say about it but instead was just
26:49
soak it in. The. Bear sacked.
26:52
The star existed. Thirteen.
26:55
Billion years ago, lived it's life and
26:57
died. But. It's a
26:59
light of persists in the cosmos in
27:01
a reaches our telescopes today. But.
27:04
It's still not the most distant known
27:06
object that honor currently goes to. What
27:08
it does have a nerdy nickname like
27:11
Air and else are is just a
27:13
phone number. I'd Jades G, S Z
27:15
One Three Zero. It.
27:17
Was discovered. With the James
27:19
Webb Space Telescope, there are no surprise
27:21
because that's sort of its job. To.
27:24
Discover distant objects, the current distance
27:26
to this galaxy and yard. In
27:28
order to get even these kinds
27:30
of distances, we can't just have
27:32
a single star. We need an
27:34
entire galaxies worth of light. That
27:36
distance is currently pending thirty three
27:38
point, six billion light years. There.
27:40
Are tentative observations of even more
27:42
distant galaxies but we haven't sex
27:45
we him pinned the distance yet
27:47
reliably so. This is the most
27:49
distant. Confirmed. Object
27:51
that we know of at that distance,
27:54
it means the galaxy was born within
27:56
four hundred million years after the Big
27:58
Bang. Even
28:00
contain some remnants of the first
28:02
generation of stars to ever appear
28:04
in the universe. It's
28:07
a bear magnitude by the way. It's.
28:10
Brightness as it appears on our own
28:12
sky. Ah, if we're doing this ranking
28:14
system of the Greeks, your first rank
28:17
second rate. It's ranks are twenty nights.
28:19
Which. Is kind of them. We.
28:22
Do know that there are more distant
28:24
galaxies out there. More distant stuffers booed
28:26
can't see them. Yeah, we don't have
28:28
the astronomical power to do it. This
28:30
is something called the Cosmic Dawn The
28:33
Dark Ages which you know if you've
28:35
listened to the show. I have a
28:37
soft spot for. But. Currently.
28:40
Aaron Dell is the limit to what
28:42
we can see with stars and Jades.
28:45
Dash. Gs. Dash. Z
28:47
Thirteen-to zero is the limit what we
28:49
can see with galaxies. But
28:51
that's still not the most distant observed
28:54
thing. For that you have to switch
28:56
different wavelengths of light. These galaxies stars
28:58
are discovered an infrared are visible. Once
29:01
you switch over some microwave, you can
29:03
see any even more distant thing. We
29:05
see something called the Cosmic Microwave Background.
29:08
This is light that was white hot
29:10
when I formed. When. Our universe
29:12
was only three hundred eighty thousand
29:14
years old when a transition from
29:17
being a plasma to a neutral
29:19
states released this white hot flashes
29:21
of radiation that has persisted in
29:23
the cosmos ever since. It.
29:26
Is now read shifted all the way
29:28
down to microwaves. Are you know those
29:31
old antenna T V. Or
29:33
if you currently have an antenna Tv,
29:36
or if he ever gets static on
29:38
the channel. About twenty five percent of
29:40
that static comes from the Cosmic Microwave
29:42
background, so that means this light was
29:45
emitted. Thirteen. Point Seven Seven
29:47
billion years ago has been sailing
29:49
through the voids. The. Clusters,
29:51
the filaments of the universe. Before.
29:54
Landing. On your Tv.
29:56
That's wild. it's were soaked in a soaked in
29:58
this radius and. This. Light.
30:02
Is right at the edge of what
30:04
we can absolutely see because the universe
30:06
is only so old and like, can
30:08
only travel so fast that there is
30:11
a limit. We do live in the
30:13
center of a universe. take that. Kepler.
30:16
And. Copernicus. It turns out we are at the
30:18
center in a in a certain way because
30:20
there is a limit to what we can
30:22
see given the age of the universe, the
30:24
Cosmic Microwave background. Is. Right
30:27
at the edge you imagine we
30:29
live. Inside. Of a giant
30:31
spear with the earth precisely at the
30:34
center in our Milky Way galaxy is
30:36
right there Next yellow wrapped around us.
30:38
and then Andromeda is just like a
30:41
little pinch away. And then we do
30:43
some galaxy surveys and weekend. So of
30:45
the the large scale structure, the cosmic
30:48
web around us, and and oh, approaching
30:50
the edge of the sphere there's Aaron
30:52
Dell. there's the Jades Galaxy. And then
30:54
you can imagine the Cosmic Microwave background
30:57
as this like seen layer of paint
30:59
right on the. Inner surface of the
31:01
sphere and that is what we're seeing.
31:04
It's right at the edge of what
31:06
we can ever see. And
31:08
so it's worth and ask and we see beyond that.
31:11
The answer is not yet. But.
31:14
We might be able to pierce
31:16
beyond the Cosmic Microwave background. We
31:18
can't do it in light because
31:20
the Cosmic Microwave background. It's this
31:23
like curtain of radiation that obscures
31:25
everything that happened before. So we
31:27
can't look directly with radiation to
31:30
see beyond that thin skin of
31:32
paint of the sea and be
31:34
and all the way to the
31:36
edge. And remember, this is also
31:39
going back in time. So. The.
31:42
Cosmic Microwave background was generated when or universe
31:44
was only three hundred eighty thousand years old.
31:46
So if we get some sort of signal,
31:48
it will be from a younger universe And
31:50
a younger universe and them are pushing all
31:52
the way up to the Big Bang. We.
31:55
Might be able to get
31:57
very, very close. Odd neutrinos were
31:59
produced in balance in the
32:01
early universe. Those could have streamed
32:03
right through the Cmb. If we
32:06
build a big enough sensitive
32:08
enough neutrino detector, we might catch
32:10
some of those relic primordial neutrinos
32:13
that would give us some
32:15
sense. of what the
32:17
universe was like and it's earliest days
32:19
in if we do detect one of
32:21
those neutrinos it would make it the
32:23
oldest known it saying the most distant
32:26
thing we have ever measure because that
32:28
one neutrino that we detect would have.
32:31
Originated Oh no. like a few minutes
32:33
after the Big Bang. And
32:35
then sailed through until I hit our detector.
32:38
Plans are currently a to go even
32:40
deeper. With. Something called the
32:42
Big Bang Observatory. This is
32:45
a gravitational waves detector that's designed
32:47
to look for gravitational waves generated
32:49
in the inflationary up. We're talking
32:51
less than a second after the
32:54
Big Bang. If. We
32:56
detect those that would be the old.
32:58
The same can be beyond at the
33:00
film of Pains of the Cmb. And
33:02
like, right at the microscopic edge of
33:04
the limit of what we could possibly
33:06
see. Those. Gravitational waves would
33:08
be the oldest known things in the
33:10
universe, cause they would have sliced through
33:12
space. For. Billions of years
33:15
generated in the first second of
33:17
the Big Bang before finally reaching
33:19
or observatories. This
33:21
is. Beautiful. To
33:23
me, it's amazing to me. One of my
33:26
favorite things about astronomy is that the farther
33:28
out we don't distance, the further back we
33:30
go in time. As.
33:33
We pierce further and further
33:35
into the universe and we
33:37
collect the most distant thing.
33:41
The. Most distant star. The most distant
33:44
galaxy. Mapping the Cm
33:46
be pushing further were peeling back
33:48
the history of the universe itself.
33:51
Be. Entire history of the
33:53
universe is just laid out
33:56
before us. Which.
33:58
Is amazing. And
34:02
for food. We're.
34:04
Just getting started, we've mapped less than three
34:06
percent of all the stars in the milky
34:08
Way. We've. Mapped less than
34:10
one percent of all the galaxies in
34:12
the observable universe. We.
34:15
Have not pushed into the Cosmic dawn to
34:17
the birth of the first stars and galaxies.
34:19
We have not push beyond the Cosmic Microwave
34:21
background, into the neutrinos and the gravitational waves
34:24
left over from the Big Bang. We've.
34:27
Accumulated some pretty impressive
34:30
records, But.
34:32
We've got a lot of work to do. Think.
34:35
You to rouse. So the question that led
34:38
to today's episode. And.
34:40
Thank you of course. To
34:42
all my top he drank all my
34:44
be drunk drivers all the I love
34:47
all of your that patreon.com/pm sutter by
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The especially like to think my top
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contributors this month they are just Angie
34:54
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34:58
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35:03
Robbed A Be A Valerie Each Demetrius
35:05
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35:10
Por El John Boy and Scott. Are
35:12
is all those contributions and so
35:14
many more that keep this show
35:16
running. I can't thank you enough.
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