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me. Oh, yeah, you're eating me!
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I have, help, help, help
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me! I have eaten
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between yesterday and today
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15 caramels. When you
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say caramel, we're talking the
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cowtail, are we talking?
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We're talking Bonbon, we're talking
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a nice box that came in a
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promo box. for a TV show. And
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when they send you the offer, they're
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like, it comes with X, Y, and
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Z, and a caramel, I was like,
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absolutely. And they were sea salted, the
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only way to go, which does feel like it
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wasn't a thing as much growing up. And
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then one day, some millennia was like, what
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if we do sea salt? Like, old timey
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people used to. And now everything is sea
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salt. I don't think you can get a
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caramel that isn't sea salted. It's very
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like rich fancy. It's like,
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like, oh, we're at a
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fancy restaurant, so the chocolate
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has a little bit of
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salt on it, because we
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want you to not like it
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just a little bit. I want
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you to be a little miserable,
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a little bit of a fleur
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to sell. It's so good that
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I have to eat six in
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a row, because it, like, it
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gets your salt juices. Nope, the
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entire box, I think there were
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20 in there. A friend sent
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me a box of C's candy
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and I've really savored. I'd be
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like one in that. I felt like
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Miss Honey and Matilda, you
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know, Trunch Bull takes her
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dad's little box of chocolate. I
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like that you feel like Miss
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Honey and not Miss Trunch Bull.
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I, the Trunch Bull is an
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icon. Icon. An icon, a... queer
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icon, a gender neutral icon,
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a butch fem icon. You
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know Miss Honey's like a
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queer icon, right? I think,
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I think queers are like, we'll
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take it, that'll be ours
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and you can't argue because
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that makes you a homophobe.
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They're just like, yeah, she's
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a, she's a pretty maternal
3:38
lady. So it's like, I got
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my face laser today. It's
3:42
called IPL. It's called IPL. It felt
3:44
numb because they numb your face for
3:46
an hour, which I totally misread as
3:48
30 minutes. And you're just like in
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this room, like kind of getting tired,
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your face is kind of numb, and
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it feels kind of weird. Wait, the hour
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for an hour before they even start
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their procedure? That's right. It's got
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me real numb. And they numb it
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because it's a laser on your
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face, like a real laser that
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you can see through your blindfold.
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And it's hot. But the truth
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is I'm like, I've had two
4:14
children, like all pain quasi pales
4:17
in comparison. And so what
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it is, is that it like basically.
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burns off a layer of your skin,
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which is great, because it brings up
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all of your sun, like I have
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a freckle, and I'm like, I don't
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know how, like I wear sunscreen, I
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don't go out in the sun, she's like,
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it's from growing up. Like it
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basically burns off all of your skin
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and sun damage, and it kind of
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reveals your skin to be like bright
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and clear and great. I didn't want
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to do any needles or anything
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subdermal or any injections, and
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I was thinking. It's fine, like,
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I don't look horrible, but it just
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didn't feel like we didn't record the
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video of this episode. That's what I
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meant to say. I was really like
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melting down mentally, like we didn't record
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this. Wait, but we're here. Sorry, the
5:05
laser took off some of my brain. And
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I was thinking about it though, I
5:10
was like, I guess not telling people that
5:12
you've had work done. I guess it's
5:14
no one's business, but there's also the
5:16
thing of like... propagating the
5:19
idea that like I naturally look
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like this like gas lighting other
5:23
women like you don't well there
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but secretly you're getting work done
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but I guess part of the reason
5:29
people don't say they got work done
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is because we all want to look
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like we naturally don't age or
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naturally have superior genetics
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and I think that that's the name
5:39
of the game is trying to pretend
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that you have naturally superior
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genetics. And you already
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think that you do, because you
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have blue eyes and blood hair? No.
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No. That's Hitler's lining up,
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the line of thinking, that's not me.
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That's not you. I don't have. Blonde
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is better. No. I, as a joke, not as
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like. a racist thing. Oh, I'm
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sorry. Okay, yes. I didn't
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mean I wasn't setting up
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as an Aryan. I was
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setting you up as a
6:09
blonde woman. The joke is
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that at some point in
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a lot of women's lives,
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like you go blonde, you
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know, because blonde is like,
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blonde is fun and movies
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have established it as like
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the blonde one's a hot
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one and it's super fun. But
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I do think you know animals
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naturally you can tell which ones
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are big which ones have claws
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like animals can't really pretend and
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please don't cite some weird tropical
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bird that like pretends to wear
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a flower as a hat to
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simulate other feathers but humans
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we definitely you want it to
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always look like it was always there
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right that's the game tricking you
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into thinking these are my genetics
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yeah like a no makeup makeup
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makeup Yeah, tricking you
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into thinking at 42 that
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somehow now I look 33 Well, speaking
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of youth, I saw you
7:05
on patron wanting to want
7:07
any to give a talking to
7:10
to a baby So we have a
7:12
baby that We had a cob and
7:14
we're gonna start with it
7:16
so you can fight this baby
7:19
Okay, I'm ready. All right somebody
7:21
reached out and said bottom of the
7:23
cob, I don't think I can listen
7:25
to the pot anymore. Well, not with
7:27
my 18-month-old daughter anyway. She screams and
7:29
cries when the pot is on, not just
7:31
you, Eliza. The girl doesn't want to be
7:34
left out of any conversation. That combined with
7:36
the fact that she's picking up words in
7:38
an astounding rate. and there's cursing means we'll
7:40
have to find a different time to listen
7:42
rather than in the car to and from
7:44
our mommy and me class Wednesday morning thank
7:46
goodness for naps and you said give us
7:49
her name and we'll give her a talking
7:51
toward the pot and this baby's name is
7:53
Alexandra what do you want to say to
7:55
this baby hey Alexandra Alexandra
7:57
Alexandra it's me coming from inside
7:59
the phone. Oh no. It's me coming
8:02
from inside the car. It's your auntie
8:04
Eliza and Emily and
8:06
your non-gendered relative Emily.
8:09
Do you want to be an auntie? Yeah.
8:11
Okay, okay. I don't want to be
8:13
one. I didn't want to assume because
8:15
I wear a hat. It happened to
8:17
me as a baby. I was a bald
8:20
baby in a little hat to
8:22
protect me from the sun and
8:24
everybody's like what a cute boy.
8:26
You hear that Alexandra? She was
8:28
a bald baby. Alexandra, we're talking to
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you. I'm going to teach you some new
8:33
words. Okay. Okay. Well, then how about
8:35
the word gord? Do you like what?
8:37
Do you like a gord? Alexandra? How
8:39
about rumblements? You know what that is? You know
8:41
what that, how about the word peppermint? How
8:43
about hot soup? Alexandra. All
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right, so you keep on listening and we're
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going to keep teaching you words. Okay? Baba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a
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Oh, Alexandra's set for life
8:57
now. What a vocabulary. Go
8:59
to bed. Yeah, go to
9:01
bed. Nap time. Mommy needs
9:03
to listen or a podcast.
9:05
Okay, now we can do
9:07
a serious question. Lose a
9:09
listener over some baby. No,
9:12
we will talk to your
9:14
babies. I've already lost too
9:16
much. Dear AIA crew. Have either
9:18
of you had a close friend
9:20
or family member? Join a
9:22
cult. I may have lost my close friend
9:24
of 10 years to a cult. A
9:26
few details. The followers of this
9:28
cult worship a leader who has had
9:31
multiple serious sexual allegations against
9:33
him. Oh, that's so weird.
9:35
That never happens. That's usually
9:37
such a good guy. He
9:39
was the subject of an
9:41
investigative journalism documentary by a
9:43
very reputable European news organization.
9:45
While the leader is no
9:47
longer alive, the warship continues.
9:49
The warship continues? I don't
9:51
know who is in charge
9:53
now. Somehow on a trip
9:55
overseas my friend, 40 female,
9:57
was recruited into this quote
9:59
organization. She suddenly started traveling more
10:01
and saying she was working for
10:03
them. She even changed her diet,
10:05
heard the rules that I read
10:07
online when I began researching all this.
10:09
Is it eating 15 caramels in a
10:12
day? That's your cult. That's my cult. There
10:14
are plenty of defectors who have spoken
10:16
out online about leaving. What they now
10:18
recognize was a cult. Most recently, my
10:20
friend left overseas again this time for
10:22
almost five months. She has school-aged children
10:24
that she left behind. When she returned,
10:26
she filed for divorce from her husband
10:29
and told her children, if they have
10:31
any complaints about her travels and do
10:33
not support her, she will leave for
10:35
good. And she meant it as she
10:37
shared her already thought through plans as
10:39
to where she would live overseas and
10:41
her reasons for choosing said location. Her
10:43
husband and her in-laws think she's gone
10:46
crazy. I don't think her family knows
10:48
what's going on because they live in
10:50
another country and don't really see each
10:53
other. All this is so out of
10:55
character from the friend I knew. What would
10:57
you do? Now, okay, we can't reveal, well,
10:59
Eliza, I can tell you what it is,
11:01
but we're not revealing on the pot on
11:03
the pot on the pot. I'm trying to
11:05
figure out what. Why can't we
11:08
share this? Because I think it,
11:10
it, um. What is it we're gonna,
11:12
hold on. Let's keep all this,
11:14
Scott, by the way. Why can't
11:16
we share this? We're afraid we're
11:18
going to give the cult a bad
11:20
name. No, we're afraid the friend
11:23
will know that we're talking about
11:25
her. So the friend, let me
11:27
get this straight. The friend has
11:29
left the country and joined
11:32
a cult, but she does hear
11:34
me. I actually can't figure out what
11:36
the name of this cult is, so... It's
11:38
a cult. I mean, there are so many
11:40
of them, it really doesn't matter, but
11:42
alright, Eliza, what do you do if
11:44
your friend's at a cult? I think it's
11:46
kind of like being an alcoholic
11:48
or a drug addict. Like, I think
11:51
you have to cut ties with this
11:53
person, because you don't mean anything to this
11:55
person if they're willing to basically
11:57
cut ties with their own children.
12:00
and their husband, you're just
12:02
kind of watching this car crash.
12:04
So, I mean, short of like going there,
12:07
the husband should have been the
12:09
one to have done something. I
12:11
think you just got to kiss
12:13
this friend goodbye. You can tell
12:15
her exactly how you feel, you
12:17
can write it all down, obviously
12:19
she's brainwashed. Are you close
12:21
enough with her to get a
12:23
hold of the parents? They're in
12:25
another country, so I feel like probably no.
12:28
her friend's parents if they're in another country.
12:30
That's why I'm asking, is there a way
12:32
to contact them? I mean, really, the owner
12:34
should be on the husband. I understand you're
12:36
missing your friend and this is awful and
12:39
you can try, but all you can do
12:41
is try to talk sense into her. Do
12:43
you want to fly over there? These people,
12:45
it happens to women, I think, more than
12:47
men, and it's this weird thing of self-worth
12:50
and having someone give you that self-worth
12:52
and you found your community? I mean,
12:54
this woman is willing to leave her
12:56
children, to leave her children. So she is
12:58
gone. Yeah. I would, if you care about her,
13:00
maybe try to be there for the
13:02
kids. Hopefully this woman comes to her
13:04
senses one day and then has to
13:07
like a tone with like weird court
13:09
supervised visits. But there's nothing
13:11
you can do other than just mourn the
13:13
loss of that friendship. And I mean,
13:15
definitely tell her how you feel if
13:17
she even is allowed to have phone time
13:20
on her floor in between shifts of
13:22
polishing crystals or whatever.
13:24
Yeah, if her kids and her husband
13:26
aren't enough to make her
13:29
stay, you're not. That's it.
13:31
That's it. Don't waste your
13:33
time. She's gone. You don't. Yeah,
13:35
I don't think there's anything
13:37
to do here. Yeah. Did she break
13:40
a law? Is she in danger of
13:42
being in harm other than some
13:44
weird sex act? You can't call
13:46
the cops because she's probably
13:49
living in another country. Can you stop
13:51
by her house? and face-to-face tell her
13:54
how you're feeling but like again she's
13:56
willing to do all of that she's definitely not gonna
13:58
listen to you and you would do Well, not
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14:04
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14:17
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14:20
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14:22
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14:24
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16:32
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But I like her content. She seems really
16:36
nice. So I've enjoyed supporting her and
16:38
being part of her community. She
16:41
recently got married. I'm a cabin manager
16:43
and airline. And her new husband was
16:45
on my flight the other day. I
16:47
recognized his name from her posts. And
16:49
he's also a successful entrepreneur. He's one
16:51
of our top-tier frequent flyers, and
16:54
as part of the service, the
16:56
manager is supposed to greet them
16:58
and welcome them back on board when
17:00
they fly. It's a private jet. It's
17:02
a private jet service. Just like it.
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The thing is, he was kind of
17:06
rude. He point out, he ignored me
17:08
on the two occasions I tried to
17:10
interact with him. Firstly, when I was doing
17:12
my introductions, and again, when I went
17:15
to ask if he wanted something to
17:17
drink, he didn't take his headphones out.
17:19
He didn't hear you. He didn't hear
17:21
you. He didn't hear you. He wasn't
17:23
working. He was watching Netflix. I've never
17:26
had this happen. And I do
17:28
multiple introductions on all my flights,
17:30
including with several A-less celebrities, who,
17:32
even when they don't want anything,
17:34
give me the time of day.
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Not expecting a falling conversation, but
17:38
just an acknowledgement would be appreciated.
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My question is, should I cancel my subscription
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to his wife's Pilati's app out of sheer
17:44
pettiness? Surely someone with a decent character wouldn't
17:46
marry a person who was rude to service
17:48
workers. I know Eliza's always saying vote with
17:51
your dollar and I know you're a frequent
17:53
flyer too, so I would love to know
17:55
your opinion. Am I being overly sensitive because
17:57
I have a pair of social relationships with
17:59
my online Pilates? teacher, thanks to your
18:01
stage advice. And if you can
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recommend any other online Platties platforms,
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please do LOL, sincerely anonymous. Anonymous,
18:08
you nailed it. You are being
18:10
overly sensitive because of a parasocial
18:12
relationship with your online Platties instructor, and
18:14
you feel that you have that connection,
18:17
therefore you feel entitled to a specific
18:19
type of interaction. If he had headphones
18:21
in, you cannot rule out that that
18:23
person was just locked in. We all
18:25
get locked into our content, our TVs,
18:27
our screens. There's a chance he didn't
18:29
see you. And I will tell you
18:31
on the other side, I have boarded
18:33
so many flights where I have gone
18:35
out of my way to say hello
18:37
to the cabin crew and they have
18:39
said nothing. So much so that sometimes
18:42
I get nervous about it because I'm
18:44
like, oh I think they already hate me. And
18:46
I will tell you, he's not a
18:48
celebrity. Celebrities have to pretend
18:50
to like and interact with
18:52
everyone. I am not immune to this.
18:54
Otherwise. People will say, oh, I
18:56
met them, they were awful. So you're not
18:59
allowed to have a bad day. This guy's
19:01
not a celebrity. He just happens to be
19:03
married to someone who has a public
19:05
profile. No. He has 300,000
19:07
Instagram followers. That's honestly
19:10
not anything. He's not a celebrity.
19:12
Just because you have some note
19:14
doesn't mean you're a star or
19:16
a celebrity. You know, and so
19:18
if you enjoy the Pilates, you're
19:20
just going to kind of be
19:22
shooting yourself in the foot. I
19:24
think you just don't want to
19:27
subscribe to this app anymore and
19:29
you're fine to cancel it. This
19:31
doesn't have to be the reason.
19:33
Well, did she say that? She
19:35
basically said like, oh, it's too
19:37
expensive. I really, it's not giving
19:39
me anything I don't get anywhere
19:42
else, but I like this lady's
19:44
nice and I want to support
19:46
her. Let me say this. By the
19:48
way, he may not be an asshole.
19:50
Like, no one walks around, I'm going
19:53
to sleep. especially what it sounds like
19:55
is that you manage some sort of
19:57
private flying situation, especially at that price
19:59
point. No, you do not have to interact
20:01
with anyone and he was not
20:03
rude. He just didn't notice you, which
20:05
is a shitty feeling and invalidates you
20:08
as a person, but it wasn't
20:10
as if he got on and was
20:12
deliberately rude to you or you asked
20:14
him to take his headphones off and
20:16
he didn't. He was just kind of
20:18
in his own world and you were
20:20
hoping to have a connection with the
20:22
Pilates instructor. If you don't wanna be
20:25
on that anymore. then you can chalk it
20:27
up to pettiness and that can be part of
20:29
the reason if you don't want it. But also
20:31
not supporting her because of that. Like we
20:33
do a lot of things and we follow
20:35
a lot of people and pay into systems
20:37
because we like the spokesperson. We like the
20:39
celebrity on that show. Like you find someone
20:41
to connect with so if you feel a
20:43
connection with her and you like her, don't
20:46
let this random interaction with the husband deter
20:48
you. Because you would really hate it
20:50
if your back was turned as I
20:52
was getting on a plane. And I
20:54
said good morning and you didn't hear
20:56
me. And then I wrote into your
20:58
boss being like the cabin crew
21:00
was really unfriendly. That's all.
21:02
And I appreciate that it's never
21:05
happened to you before. But I
21:07
think if you really think back, there
21:09
may have been a time someone didn't
21:11
hear you or they didn't say good
21:13
morning back. We're all just trying to
21:15
get where we got to go. And
21:18
also someone who flies a lot, like
21:20
I never watch the safety briefings.
21:22
I might if I like got a water from
21:24
you before and we've made a connection,
21:26
I try to be nice, but like,
21:29
you're tired. I want to get all the
21:31
plane, I want to go. I want to go.
21:33
I want to go. I want to go. I want
21:35
to go. I acknowledge I could open the
21:37
door in the event of an
21:39
emergency. I've got in my life gotten
21:42
the feedback of like she was rude
21:44
and I don't even remember meeting
21:46
that person. You know, so if he
21:48
does it again, then it's a problem.
21:50
Then it's you Also, let's say the
21:53
guy is a dick that girl's gonna
21:55
need even more support because she's
21:57
probably stuck married to a dick
21:59
Don't you feel bad for her? I don't
22:02
think that's what's happening. Hey, A, Pazquat.
22:04
It's my first time writing in. And
22:06
I would like your opinion on a
22:09
certain strange and entertaining situation. My boyfriend
22:11
35 and I-32 have been together
22:13
for eight years civil union style. We
22:15
own an apartment together. We bought in
22:18
2021. We live in his home country
22:20
in Europe. I am from Texas.
22:22
Say anyone give us country names. The
22:24
second one or I'm just floating on a
22:27
map. I know Texas. Save to say
22:29
we're building slash have built a life
22:31
together before it's Spain. Before meeting both
22:33
of us were single for about a
22:35
year each dating around nothing serious before
22:38
that each of us were in short-term
22:40
relationships that lasted a year give or
22:42
take. Early in our relationship I
22:44
was his date to his friend's
22:46
wedding in 2019. These friends were
22:49
mutual friends with his previous ex-girlfriend
22:51
before me from before his year
22:53
of single dumb. She was at the wedding
22:55
too with her own date. She and his friends
22:58
are all from his country. At that
23:00
wedding, maybe two years after they'd broken
23:02
up, I actually ran into her going
23:04
to the bathroom. Neither of us really
23:06
said anything beyond excuse me. My
23:08
boyfriend and her didn't say anything
23:10
beyond, hey, how's it going? He and I
23:12
spent the night dancing and having fun.
23:14
Or so you think? Sneaky language. The
23:16
reason my BF broke up with her was
23:18
because she treated him poorly and was unstable.
23:21
Think high highs and low lows. He told
23:23
her at the end that he couldn't help
23:25
her anymore than what he had and he
23:27
actually recommended she get professional help, which the
23:29
mutual friends later confirmed with him that she
23:31
did. He also always told me things ended
23:33
as amicably as they could have and he
23:35
really thought she needed professional help. He also
23:38
mentioned while they were dating, she always told
23:40
him she really wanted to have children in
23:42
what to me sounded like a baby fever
23:44
type of way. He and I don't have
23:46
children and no immediate plans to. Not long
23:48
after the wedding, maybe a year or so, it's a
23:50
long time. She takes him out of the blue telling
23:52
him she thought about their relationship, wanted to
23:55
tell him she thought he was a good
23:57
person and wanted to be friends, something along
23:59
those lines. lines. At this point she
24:01
was already in another relationship with her
24:03
date at the wedding and was either
24:06
pregnant or had already had her first
24:08
baby. Now, I'm the type of girlfriend that
24:10
when my ex is broke up with me too.
24:12
I went cold turkey, no contact ever again.
24:14
So for me, I find it strange
24:16
when I hear about people reaching out
24:18
years after the relationship ended, especially when
24:20
they were never friends first and it
24:22
was always romantic from the start. I
24:24
found it even odder that she'd reach out
24:26
when she was already in another relationship
24:29
planning a family. I told this to
24:31
my boyfriend, he agreed, but he's also
24:33
a kind person and wouldn't leave her
24:35
on red. Oh, my Spidey senses went off.
24:37
So, I told him if you answer
24:39
her, you might be opening the door
24:41
to something you can't easily shut out again.
24:43
And if they're rolling the Baba Duke,
24:45
if the rolls are reversed, you probably not
24:48
want me to answer any of my excess.
24:50
He replied to her along the lines of,
24:52
I don't have any issues with you, you
24:54
don't have to worry, etc. Convo ended
24:56
there. Fast forward to this month. She
24:58
texted him out of the blue again.
25:01
Okay, I'm trying to figure out. That was
25:03
a year after, so it's been a
25:05
couple years since they've talked. So, okay,
25:07
I just want to nail down this
25:09
timeline. 2019, she and her boyfriend go
25:12
to the wedding and a year later,
25:14
a year after that. So in 2020,
25:16
this girl is like, hey, I'm pregnant,
25:18
I'm having a baby, I already have
25:21
a baby, and I think you're a
25:23
good person, I want to be
25:25
friends. Yeah. So that's 2020. So
25:27
now this month. And then nothing?
25:29
And they haven't been communicating. And
25:31
now this month in 2025, so five, four
25:34
to five years later. Yeah, she text me
25:36
on the blue again. Uh-huh. This time to
25:38
ask him about all the places they went
25:40
to in France on one of their vacations
25:42
more than 10 years ago. When he told
25:45
me about the text, he still
25:47
hadn't responded. I told him basically
25:49
the same thing as before. It's
25:51
odd. What's she gonna do? Recreate
25:53
their romantic trip to southern France
25:55
with her current partner, her family.
25:57
As a woman who's humbly who's
25:59
humbly been. the guy had moved on
26:01
and I saw he was happy with another
26:03
woman. Reach out. She is also on kid
26:05
number two. So my boyfriend just responded with
26:08
a list of places they went and she
26:10
responded almost immediately asking if he knew the
26:12
exact distances between each city. Maybe she thinks
26:14
she's talking about Chachie PT or something. I
26:16
told him. I think she's, and just, you're
26:19
not getting this, but there's little emogies throughout,
26:21
so there's a little robot emoji after that.
26:23
Just in case you don't know what chat
26:25
GBT is, it's not a human. I told
26:28
him I think she still loves him or
26:30
she's not over him in some way because
26:32
why else would an adult woman with two
26:34
children reach out to an ex after almost
26:36
10 years to ask about a romantic French
26:39
vacation they chaired that she could easily find
26:41
herself by going through her own photos and
26:43
with internet access. Because they conceived at that
26:45
night at the wedding, the baby says, that's
26:48
why a year later she reached out, the
26:50
baby says. I honestly think she sees him
26:52
as the one that got away, as cliche
26:54
as that sounds, and is trying to find
26:56
a way to talk to him or stay
26:59
connected. He doesn't agree, but he also gives
27:01
the benefit of the doubt to a lot
27:03
of people. He's a good man. Sure, the
27:05
messages are harmless, but my intuition tells me
27:08
something else is up. It doesn't feel genuine.
27:10
As Tian-who says, stay suspicious, stay suspicious, stay
27:12
suspicious, stay suspicious, stay suspicious, stay suspicious, and
27:14
I do, and I do, and I do,
27:16
and I do, and I do, and I
27:19
do, and I do, and I do, and
27:21
I do, and I am. Also, it's annoying
27:23
because she's placing a mental load on my
27:25
boyfriend that he definitely doesn't need. So my
27:28
question is, are we doomed to receive a
27:30
message every few years from this lady for
27:32
the rest of our lives? Like, we'll all
27:34
be in our 70s and she'll still be
27:36
sending us texts? What do y'all think? Or
27:39
is this a case for the X files?
27:41
Unex, unexplained and mysterious. First of all. Wait.
27:43
Okay. Thanks for everything. Eliza and Emily and
27:45
crew. Pot helped me get three each week.
27:48
Eliza, I thought the special's fantastic. Appreciate all
27:50
y'all do. Hugs. Emily, I like hearing about
27:52
your cats. Okay. Proceed. Proceed. First of all,
27:54
let's remove the idea of like too much
27:56
of a mental load for my boyfriend. He's
27:59
a grown man and he's engaging. Okay. Also,
28:01
why do you still have this person's number?
28:03
I guess, I guess, I do have X.
28:05
boyfriend's numbers because it feels harsh to block
28:08
someone you don't hate. I've never deleted a
28:10
number from my phone. What if they try
28:12
to text me? I want to know who
28:14
it is. Here's what it is. This person
28:16
is mentally unstable, which is fine. You can
28:19
get treatment for that. And I don't know
28:21
if it's compounded by, but she's also a
28:23
mother who's had two children. And this is
28:25
her kind of a little bored. Kind of
28:28
like am I still sexy? Oh, oh, maybe
28:30
I passed a place and it smelled like
28:32
cologne and that reminded me of Raoul whatever
28:34
your boyfriend's name is from his secret country
28:36
So she's reaching out to kind of be
28:39
like hey this guy will still engage with
28:41
me like remember like way back when like
28:43
when I was whatever She's looking for the
28:45
attention and because they broke up amicably He's
28:48
just like yeah, here it is like no
28:50
big deal, but it's bothering you because You
28:52
guys aren't cool. It wasn't cool. You're not
28:54
friends. It's all these years later. It would
28:57
be different if she reached out now. And
28:59
she was like, hey, I haven't talked to
29:01
you. My husband and I are going to
29:03
France. What was that vineyard? Because we really
29:05
want to go. I wouldn't be too worried
29:08
about it because there's so much time in
29:10
between these reachouts. But it does just sound
29:12
to me like a mom who's just like
29:14
a little bit of excitement still out there.
29:17
And you're saying like, hey, he's with me,
29:19
whatever, you should not feel threatened by a
29:21
married mother of two with a chemical imbalance,
29:23
reaching out with a lamest excuse. Yeah, everything
29:25
you're saying does not indicate that your boyfriend
29:28
is secretly talking to her. It's like he
29:30
texts her every few years. He doesn't want
29:32
to be rude. He like replies something vague.
29:34
I don't, this is not a red flag
29:37
to me. I think it's, it's putting a
29:39
mental load on you clearly, but that's not
29:41
her fault. I would be lying if I
29:43
said I didn't get texts from ex-boyfriends every
29:45
like once a year and it is the
29:48
most harmless. Even if I'm the one that
29:50
broke up with them, I never feel the
29:52
need. and I'll say
29:54
it on a podcast,
29:57
but I never feel
29:59
the need to say
30:01
to my husband, like,
30:03
oh, like Mike reached out and
30:05
he wanted to know if I
30:07
saw this movie, like, because I'm
30:10
not in the market for like
30:12
a side piece. And
30:14
so - You don't have time for a side
30:16
piece to be quite honest. Unless
30:18
they want to like go pick up my laundry. I
30:21
really remember that
30:23
movie exit to Eden with Rosie
30:25
O'Donnell and it was like a sex movie on like
30:27
a heat in his And the guy was like, I
30:29
want to fulfill your fantasy. She's like, yeah, go paint
30:31
my house. I've never
30:33
seen it, but I remember the box art.
30:35
Yeah, her like that SNM. You love a
30:37
Rosie O'Donnell movie. I met her. She was
30:39
at the movies for a few months ago.
30:41
I met her. Before she moved to Ireland,
30:43
I love her. I have a Rosie doll.
30:45
I buy that. I
30:47
buy it. Anyways, this is taking up way
30:49
too much. I know it's not sitting right
30:51
with you because her reasonings feel weird, but
30:53
I really, given the infrequency of it and
30:55
as long as he is being honest with
30:58
you and it really is like once every
31:00
five years, literally don't think about it ever again. Who fucking
31:02
cares? Does not. Even
31:04
if he's still like, it's fine.
31:06
You got him. He's with you. What
31:09
you want to do is check that text to make sure
31:11
it's not really every five years. I mean, he's telling, he's
31:13
telling love or dad. How do you know? You
31:16
don't know. No conosis. No
31:18
sabbath. I'm not positive which one to use.
31:21
OK. He also is definitely not
31:23
Spanish. No. Maybe. I
31:25
feel like people say Spain. He lives
31:27
in Luxembourg. Right. OK.
31:29
We have a confession. And
31:34
this is one where I'm like, oh, but Eliza, I
31:36
feel like you're not going to react to it at
31:38
all. But let's see. I'm trying to mix it up.
31:40
We like different types of confessions. To
31:42
preface this, by saying I was only 18
31:44
at the time this happened, it was my
31:46
second day on a new job. I'm in
31:48
the UK, but I think the U .S. equivalent
31:50
is GameStop. Yes, that is a store here.
31:53
I was being trained on the tills.
31:56
of Worship. Emily's House of Worship. I
31:59
was like, OK. I was going to get on
32:01
the tills and I was serving a
32:03
woman, but I made a minor mistake.
32:06
I think I didn't skin her rewards
32:08
card or something, really tiny error and
32:10
easily fixed. The customer gave me the
32:12
biggest bollicking of my life and didn't
32:14
care when I apologized profusely and explained
32:16
it was my second day and I was
32:19
still learning. Anyway, I needed to go to
32:21
the storm to collect her Wii fit board,
32:23
a testament to the time. Do you remember
32:25
what that is, Eliza? It definitely sounds
32:27
like they're saying like they're small fit. Or
32:29
they're full. We fit. Right? Right. Okay. So
32:31
when to get the we fit board, the
32:33
store room was located up two flights of
32:36
stairs. I chucked that we fit board down
32:38
both flights of stairs and then not satisfied
32:40
ran back up the stairs and did it
32:42
again. 18 year old me really hoped that
32:44
woman would open the board later on
32:46
that day to find it didn't work.
32:48
Do I regret it? Kind of, but
32:50
doesn't take much to be a kind
32:52
and understanding person and understanding person person,
32:54
especially. over a minor error that was
32:56
easily fixed. Over a minor error, like not
32:59
hearing someone with headphones on. The thought
33:01
that when you're 18, you're just like,
33:03
I'll just break this, great. Like there's
33:05
something so funny about at the top
33:07
of the stairs taking probably a $200
33:09
piece of merchandise and just chucking it
33:11
and then selling it to the lady
33:13
with a smile on your face. Because
33:15
really, it's not like she's going to
33:17
have to pay to pay to get
33:20
it fixed. It's just going to be
33:22
an inconvenience. you know if these really handcrafted
33:24
it would be different but it's
33:26
like a mega company right um I
33:28
think I would do that at any
33:30
age to be honest so check something
33:32
down the stairs I've checked all right
33:34
even though it's only April let's do
33:37
a Mother's Day quandary help out those
33:39
moms let's do it because you got
33:41
to get ready because we're gonna get
33:43
a lot of this question so
33:45
let's let's address that here hi Eliza
33:47
and Emily I have a pretty
33:50
simple question for you context.
33:52
Me and my husband have been married for
33:54
five years. He is the oldest of two.
33:56
Sorry. This is so juicy. Like this is
33:58
what our podcast is about. is like these
34:00
kind of questions. So let's settle in. So
34:02
cozy, get a snack, get a cup of
34:05
hot cocoa, light of fire. I mean, we've
34:07
had questions in a similar vein of
34:09
like, you know, you celebrate the kids,
34:11
but the specificity of this one. So
34:13
me and my husband have been married
34:15
five years. He's the oldest of two.
34:18
His sister still lives at home. He
34:20
is close with his family. We have my
34:22
husband have been married five years. He
34:24
is the eldest of son. There's two
34:26
kids. The sister still lives at home. They're
34:28
all very close. And you guys are in
34:31
your 50s. They don't say they're aged. We
34:33
have a two-year-old son, so yes, I am
34:35
a mom, also a mom in the thick
34:38
of parenting. I have a strained relationship with
34:40
my mother-in-law. She stresses me out, and on
34:42
my mother's day, I don't want to be
34:44
stressed. I told my husband we can celebrate
34:47
with her the day before, which she's fine
34:49
with. My sister-in-law said that her mom
34:51
is disappointed that we want to
34:53
celebrate a day early and not
34:55
on actual Mother's Day. Any advice,
34:57
words of wisdom, hot takes, love
34:59
you, and everything you do, the
35:01
pants and your new special, are
35:03
hot fire. Thank you. Somebody understands
35:06
fashion. It is that like weird transition
35:08
of like we celebrated you because you
35:10
were the mother, but now I'm a
35:12
mother. I guess it depends on how
35:14
stressed you are in your day. Like
35:16
if you're the mom staying home, taking
35:18
care of the kid, and you want
35:20
a day off, I could understand not
35:23
wanting to spend it half celebrating someone
35:25
else. Will it cost you a little
35:27
bit, but calm everything? If you're like,
35:29
great, we'll come by for breakfast. Are
35:31
they asking you to prepare anything? Or
35:33
are they asking you to merely just
35:35
be there and she does everything
35:37
else? But if she stresses you out? I
35:40
think you're well within your rights to
35:42
like divvy up that holiday. I mean,
35:44
there's going to be more mothers in
35:46
your family, the older you all get. It's
35:48
good to set, to draw a line. And that's
35:50
nice that you're going to do something
35:53
the day before, and she still has
35:55
the daughter. What she really cares about
35:57
is seeing the grandbaby and seeing
35:59
her son. I have a real problem with the
36:01
fact that they are willing, they're like, we're
36:03
gonna celebrate you, we're gonna come over and
36:05
we're gonna celebrate you being a great mom.
36:08
She's like, doesn't matter if it's not on
36:10
the day where I get to be the
36:12
only queen and you're not. That pisses me
36:14
off. Like. Yeah, I can see why you
36:16
don't like her, but also, again, this falls
36:18
under, where's your husband? Right. I mean it
36:21
sounds like it's fine and sister-in-law is
36:23
just bitching and you know what's the
36:25
sister-in-law saying well so the sister-in-law is
36:27
the one who said mom's actually disappointed
36:29
but the husband said great let's do
36:31
it the day before and the sister
36:33
one's always like mom wants to do
36:35
it the day of okay too bad.
36:37
Tell you what mom can pick up
36:39
the phone and then your husband can say
36:41
to the mom you know I really wanted to
36:43
take my wife Kelsey Bellerini. out for
36:45
a mom day and a spa and a thing
36:47
or whatever. Like I really wanted to treat her
36:50
to this and we wanted to just kind of
36:52
have a mellow day. It should not be on you
36:54
on Mother's Day to stand up for what you
36:56
want. And I don't appreciate the like
36:58
sister, the daughter interim thing. Either the
37:00
mom isn't this big of a pill and
37:02
the sisters making drama or the mom is
37:05
a big pill in which case she needs
37:07
to do her own bidding and not send
37:09
her daughter. Her husband and daughter. The sister
37:11
can celebrate her on Mother's Day. I'm sorry.
37:14
That's what I was saying. Or the mom
37:16
is like kind of docile and the sister
37:18
standing up for her, in which case,
37:20
trample all over that mom. Yeah, we
37:22
want a weak-willed mother-in-law. I just, like,
37:25
people get so obsessed with doing the
37:27
thing on the day. We've had it
37:29
in our own family where and all
37:32
of my in-laws are wonderful people, but
37:34
everybody wants Christmas Eve. And so we had
37:36
to start doing, like, okay, you get Christmas
37:38
Day, you get Christmas Eve, and the truth
37:40
is, like, it's not about the day. Is
37:43
your birthday party any less special if you
37:45
have it the weekend, you're available? Is, you
37:47
know, is Christmas, is being with your family any
37:49
less meaningful if you do it the next day?
37:51
Once you get to it, the answer is no,
37:53
but this is about her having it the way
37:55
that she wants to, and she did for a very
37:57
long time, and she did for a very long time.
38:00
Someone's got to do the standing up, and
38:02
you've just got to go along with it
38:04
and be the princess that you are. Yeah.
38:06
Let him go down on you. You've only
38:08
had like two Mother's days and she's had
38:10
so many. She can still have them, they
38:12
just, you know, or okay, we'll stop by
38:14
for breakfast and then I'm going to go
38:16
get a full body massage and then have
38:18
those little fish that eat the calluses off
38:20
my toes. I
38:22
want to do that. It's
38:24
weird. That just seems weird, but...
38:27
It's weird too, if you
38:29
eat the fish after, after they
38:31
ate all your skin. It's
38:33
the most disgusting thing I've ever
38:35
heard. Now, double protein. I'm
38:37
eating me. This Christmas, I'm eating
38:39
me. Why Christmas? Why besmirch
38:41
the holidays? It's funnier. Okay, we're
38:43
going to now do like
38:46
a really serious question. Okay,
38:48
you're the producer. That's how I like
38:50
the tone to go. I want us to
38:52
bounce back and forth. Let's fit it
38:54
in there. Dear Eliza
38:57
and Emily, thank you for making
38:59
such a great podcast. I look forward
39:01
to listening to each episode to
39:03
hear the jokes that reference the title.
39:05
Every episode makes me giggle and
39:07
provides a needed distraction while I drive
39:09
to work as a prevention specialist
39:11
for domestic violence, sexual assault, nonprofit organization.
39:14
It's a lot. Yeah. It's a
39:16
lot. It's a big job. I appreciate
39:18
the healthy and caring relationship advice
39:20
that you provide for people who are
39:22
held in unhealthy and abusive relationships.
39:24
I need to remain anonymous. Content warning,
39:26
as this question mentions suicide. Onto
39:30
the question. I, 27 female, am
39:32
married to a loving farmer, 27
39:34
male. Through my job, I hear
39:36
about some really scum -of -the -earth
39:38
perpetrators who are mostly men, which
39:40
makes me doubly appreciate the good
39:42
men I have in my life,
39:44
my dad, older brother, and husband
39:46
in name of few. I often
39:48
worry about the men that were
39:50
taught men don't cry or don't
39:52
be a pussy as men are
39:54
more likely to complete suicide, like
39:56
they learned this was the only
39:58
way to cope with their feelings
40:00
or mental health struggles, like the
40:02
only two feelings they're allowed. to express to
40:04
others are anger and happiness. The good men in my life don't
40:07
like to talk about their motions or admit they might be struggling.
40:09
Heck, my husband went to the doctor with severe chest pain and
40:11
after ruling out all other possibilities was
40:13
diagnosed with anxiety. They put him on
40:15
an anti-exiety which has helped immensely he
40:17
seems to have a longer fused, sleeps
40:19
better, and hasn't had chest pain since.
40:21
However, he wants to lower his dose
40:23
because he feels like the meds have
40:25
made him gain weight. My brother takes
40:27
prescription strength and assets to combat stomach
40:30
ulcers, which I wouldn't have known about
40:32
if my mom hadn't told me. All
40:34
these men in my life to test
40:36
therapy have tried to pick up on
40:38
my husband's and my dad's and my
40:40
brother's tells for when they're struggling, but I
40:42
still don't know how to bring up the
40:44
subject with them. When I have in the
40:47
past the conversation is short-lived with a quick
40:49
change in subject. Most recently I made a
40:51
point to dig a little deeper when my
40:53
husband did. How can I help the good
40:55
men in my life with their mental health
40:57
and expressing their emotions? Thank you in advance
40:59
And then she chose she says insert name
41:01
Clara question mark which that's a good. That's
41:03
a good alias and then Pete well I'm
41:06
not gonna say the last part because we're
41:08
gonna see if you say it in your
41:10
answer And then I'll tell you what she can't
41:12
wait to hear you say Is it right a letter? No, I
41:14
mean this sounds like a question for a
41:16
true mental health care professional and I'm like
41:18
a little annoyed that Emily read Emily read
41:21
this because that Emily read this because that's
41:23
so tough because I don't have men in
41:25
my life who are exactly like that so
41:27
I can't imagine and I don't mean
41:29
like I can't imagine that like I
41:31
it's hard for me to fathom having
41:33
that because I would I would speak to
41:35
them the way that I would speak to
41:38
my husband who's like big on therapy and
41:40
very open and all that stuff and
41:42
so basically what you're saying is like
41:44
I'm worried for your health and I want
41:47
you to be able to talk and it's not
41:49
going to be as simple as look I
41:51
got you five better help sessions and
41:53
get on in there. expressing
41:55
yourself because all you can do
41:57
is express yourself to them. And
42:00
I do wonder if writing a really well
42:02
worded letter or taking one, you know, each
42:05
of them on a walk. And you can
42:07
say you don't have to talk, I just
42:09
want you to listen. You know, some people
42:12
don't know that the option is out there.
42:14
And I mean, I can tell you from
42:16
my own therapy, I've always been the one
42:18
that's like there's no way anyone's gonna understand
42:21
this. And of course there's someone out there
42:23
that would understand that. And you just want
42:25
to give them to get sick and you.
42:27
What you can do is come from a
42:30
place of I just love you so much,
42:32
and this is very real. Maybe you can
42:34
throw in some statistics. If you don't want
42:36
to hear me fine, but I would love
42:39
for you to find a healthier way. Especially
42:41
your husband, and by the way, your husband's
42:43
right. If he, I'm sure his self-esteem is
42:45
tied to his weight, and if it's making
42:48
him gain weight, he doesn't feel good about
42:50
that. There are ways to deal with your
42:52
anxiety that don't involve your anxiety that don't
42:54
involve medication. And maybe it is you guys
42:57
take a walk together every day. Maybe you
42:59
could do a couples therapy thing, not with
43:01
the goal of like fixing your marriage, but
43:03
with like giving him a place to talk
43:06
and then maybe you bow out of a
43:08
few of those. There also are, there are
43:10
other medications, etc. But I do, I think
43:13
it's important and interest in that. that you
43:15
called out like these small sites like the
43:17
brother just has straight up old some goals
43:19
there's probably from stress and anxiety that he's
43:22
not expressing the husband's been diagnosed with anxiety
43:24
like nobody's talked about these things I think
43:26
laying it out the way that you did
43:28
in this letter and not I think you
43:31
want to be really careful I think men
43:33
will bristle I think anyone will bristle it
43:35
like I think you're going to complete suicide
43:37
I think you just don't go to that
43:40
Yet even though that is kind of the
43:42
underlying fear, but just saying like you see
43:44
people all day every day who cannot express
43:46
their emotions You are so lucky to have
43:49
three wonderful men in your life, and you
43:51
want them to know that you were there
43:53
for them Yeah, and they'll be like we're
43:55
a woman. What do you know? Here's what
43:58
you should do if they love you the
44:00
way you love them I would use the
44:02
fact that you're a sensitive woman who lives
44:04
who sees this type of stuff every day,
44:07
and I would ask all three of them
44:09
to sit down with you. Is it group?
44:11
Yep. Because I wonder if it will be,
44:13
I just wonder, this is just a tactic,
44:16
it's just a thought. I wonder if it
44:18
be less contentious, you know, if you did
44:20
get emotional, because no one's gonna get mad
44:23
at you, and if you're just like, I
44:25
just love three of you. Like a reverse
44:27
intervention, kind of, and I just see this
44:29
happening, and I just wanted to sit down.
44:32
The odds of all three of them getting
44:34
up and storming off, I just wonder if
44:36
there might be... I for some reason feel
44:38
like that would work. I don't know why.
44:41
Even if it's like, guys, you know what?
44:43
I deal with men all day who I
44:45
would love to be able... to tell them
44:47
how you operate. Right. I can't. And also,
44:50
do you all have anything that you wish
44:52
you were asked because I will start asking
44:54
the men at my job, those that, you
44:56
know what I mean? Like, how can I
44:59
show up for you? And maybe that's a
45:01
private thing. I guess I only thought the
45:03
group thing because there's something very vulnerable and
45:05
tender about a woman. who is smaller than
45:08
these three men standing there and saying like
45:10
I just care about you so much like
45:12
I just wonder if like they might band
45:14
together to be like okay we hear you
45:17
we appreciate like they almost want to take
45:19
care of you in that minute but you're
45:21
reverse psychology them into them taking care of
45:24
themselves I just wonder I just wonder and
45:26
I do like Emily's idea about is there
45:28
anything I could ask is there anything that
45:30
you wish we're different they'll be like yeah
45:33
too many bucking lives getting too much as
45:35
what they want to I think I cut
45:37
you off from saying what she wanted to
45:39
say, which was, she said, yes, I can't
45:42
wait to hear Eliza say, that's it, after
45:44
she answers. And I think you're just about
45:46
to say it, I cut you off. That's
45:48
it. So I'm sorry, Clara. That's it. With
45:51
Eliza. And I'm only. I know. Do we
45:53
need to change the name of the show?
45:55
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how to talk to men
48:24
this email is named husband
48:26
communication. Hi
48:28
all. I'm gonna dive right in. My
48:30
husband and I keep having the same
48:32
argument. We have two girls ages two
48:34
and three. Our three-year-old is in half-day
48:37
preschool. My husband is a lawyer
48:39
and works remotely. His job is pretty
48:41
high-stress. He'll start work around 8 a.m.
48:43
when our nanny arrives, pause around 536
48:45
to spend an hour or so with
48:47
the kids, then often goes back to
48:49
work, and will wrap up anywhere between
48:51
10 p. Oh my god. I'm a
48:54
freelancer in a creative space. Right now
48:56
I'm not as busy. I'm handling more
48:58
of the kid in housework. I start
49:00
my day around 6.30 or 7 when
49:02
the kids wake up. I handle everything
49:04
in the morning, diaper changes, packing
49:06
lunch, dishes, feeding the job, feeding
49:08
lunch, dishes, feeding the job, feeding
49:10
the job, taking out clothes for
49:12
the kids, brushing, restock, anything that's
49:14
out, out, groceries, laundry, meal, cleaning,
49:16
cleaning, you get the idea. My
49:18
husband will walk the dog and
49:20
throw out the trash that I
49:22
prep and put by the door
49:24
for him. Sometimes I'll get a
49:26
kid dressed, but I've picked the
49:28
clothes out. He can't figure out
49:30
what they should wear. He has
49:33
to consult me. I have a
49:35
full-time nanny, which is very helpful,
49:37
but she's young and she doesn't
49:39
do everything for the kids. cleaning
49:41
up that my husband and I
49:43
read them books and do bedtime
49:45
together. My three-year-old also doesn't nap
49:47
at school but needs it so
49:49
she's melting down and struggling because
49:51
she's over tired and I'm the
49:53
preferred parent for my two-year-old so
49:55
I can't even stand in the
49:57
kitchen and make dinner without her.
49:59
She screams. be held so I rely
50:01
on TV which I hate and feel
50:03
guilty about my problem. On the weekends,
50:05
I want my husband and I to truly split
50:07
everything with the kids. I basically am looking for
50:09
a break. I want him to make breakfast or
50:12
give him a bath or change a diaper. The
50:14
other week, our nanny was out for a few
50:16
days, so I did baths three days in a
50:18
row, but who's counting, and said to him, do
50:20
you mind doing a bath tonight since I did
50:22
the past few nights? He got mad at me
50:24
and said he's been working. It's not like he
50:26
was doing nothing or getting a getting a break
50:29
or getting a break. Oh my God. I later
50:31
apologized and said I should have been more honest
50:33
and instead said, I'm really tired. Can you do the
50:35
bath? He didn't like that either. He said, I should say,
50:37
hey, there is X and Y to do. How can we
50:39
handle and divide as a team? Barf, which is okay in
50:41
theory, but my point is, even if I said
50:43
that, I want him to give a bath.
50:46
Why can't I ask for what I want?
50:48
He feels like when I ask him to
50:50
help with the kids, I'm barkingbarking orders at
50:52
him. I'm barking orders at him. I'm barking
50:55
orders at him. Sometimes I'll ask him to
50:57
change a diaper, get one of the kids
50:59
dressed. I'm not sure if this matters, but
51:01
I struggle with anxiety. He has ADHD, so
51:03
he truly has no sense of time and
51:06
can't focus. Yeah, he can. He's a lawyer.
51:08
He definitely has sense of time because he
51:10
has billable hours and he sure a shit
51:12
can focus. Because that's what lawyers
51:14
do. So I'm so tired of
51:17
these low-grade learning differences.
51:19
Like, I'm dyslexic. You can be a
51:21
fucking lawyer, give me a break. Or in
51:23
this weird situation where I'm freelancing, but also taking
51:25
care of our home, but I also have full-time
51:27
help, so I feel like I can't complain or
51:29
be tired. And he's working a really stressful job.
51:31
Another issue I have is when he's present, a
51:34
lot of the time he's on his phone or
51:36
staring into space ruminating about something, or he's laying
51:38
down on the couch or in the bedroom. I
51:40
am extremely irritated when he lays down. Sorry,
51:42
I sound insane. No, you don't. No. Because
51:44
that just shows me he doesn't feel the
51:46
need to get up and down and up
51:48
and down like I am with the kids.
51:50
It looks to me like he's relaxing. Well,
51:53
I have to jump up constantly. Love you
51:55
all. Thank you for being a light for
51:57
so many of us on Wednesdays. I don't like
51:59
this. A lawyer? I have a name?
52:01
Well, let's see, the message got clipped.
52:04
Is there a little secret name at
52:06
the end? No, it's just nobody.
52:08
Susan, listen. Your husband
52:10
doesn't respect or have
52:12
the capacity to understand the
52:14
sheer amount of work that being
52:17
a stay-at-home mom is. I have two
52:19
nannies, and it is still very, very
52:21
hard. Because those kids are going
52:24
to come in when the nannies are
52:26
gone. They still need things when you're
52:28
there. Then you feel bad. Then
52:30
you're on the week. It's still
52:32
hard. It doesn't matter. First of
52:34
all, you need either a new nanny or
52:37
to change the hours. This nanny needs
52:39
to do more. And it sounds like
52:41
you have the financial means to
52:43
pay for it. I don't know why she's
52:45
not doing meal prep. Does that
52:48
mean she's not feeding them lunch?
52:50
Does that mean she's not packing their
52:52
lunch for the next day? And I
52:54
don't know why she's not doing their laundry.
52:57
That is a huge part of it. It should
52:59
be, you are the nanny, and I need you
53:01
to do whatever I need you to do
53:03
throughout the day. You want a team player nanny.
53:05
I'm sorry, I think about these cleaning
53:07
people that I had who were lovely,
53:09
but they like wouldn't do laundry, and
53:12
I'm like, okay, but that's what I need.
53:14
I need you to do it. I do wonder
53:16
if because she mentions that the nanny's
53:18
young. It's like, I wonder if she's
53:20
paying not that much to somebody to
53:22
just watch the kids and maybe she
53:24
needs more experience. Maybe you need to
53:26
figure out a way to make the
53:28
person who's helping you actually help you.
53:30
And even if it is full-time, even
53:32
if it is full-help, like my both
53:34
of my nannies are incredible. And they
53:36
do so much. And I still am
53:39
like, my mind is boggled at the
53:41
amount of stuff that I still can't
53:43
get done. As for your husband, your
53:45
husband needs to be taken down a pig.
53:47
And I almost never say that. He
53:49
is thinking because he has a quote
53:51
unquote real job that does not require
53:53
as many hours as he's building for. Yeah, what
53:56
does he do? Why is he 10 p.m. to
53:58
1 a.m. after working like a 10 hour? What
54:00
is he not good at? Is it because
54:02
of his ADHD, he's not getting it done
54:04
on time? Maybe. Or you're like, if you're
54:06
that good of a lawyer that you work
54:09
that much, then you can afford more help.
54:11
But there's no way he's working that entire
54:13
time. He's taking a break. He might be
54:16
closing his eyes. He might read an article.
54:18
He might check his Instagram. All things that
54:20
you don't get a chance to do. And
54:22
the fact that he doesn't like the way
54:25
that you're asking that you're asking him. And
54:27
that is not the way to get what
54:29
you want. Or you simply asked it and
54:31
he's thinking, why can't she do it? She
54:34
doesn't work. You guys need to have a
54:36
serious sit down. And by the way, like, I
54:38
understand you being angry that he's laying down
54:40
because you don't get to do it. And
54:42
what's going to happen when you do get
54:44
to go back to work and you do
54:47
have a project? I want, yeah, I want to know,
54:49
like, is there an... Time limit on how
54:51
long he's working 40 hours a day
54:53
and spending one hour with his family
54:55
that can't be it into it's not
54:57
healthy What's the conversation there? By the
55:00
way is so tough and Noah and
55:02
I I have had this conversation with
55:04
him where I'm like you're just on
55:06
your phone And I am like you're
55:08
just on your phone and I am
55:10
like you're just on your phone and I
55:12
am too So I'm not like what's wrong
55:15
with you piece of shit, and then you
55:17
feel really bad and on the weekends My
55:19
parents went through this where my dad
55:21
was on the road all week and then
55:23
he would come home and he'd be like
55:26
to my mom you rest I'll take the
55:28
kids to a movie and she's like no
55:30
I want to take that I want to
55:32
do the fun thing. Yeah, I don't want
55:34
to take a nap and on the weekend
55:36
you do want to arrest you both want
55:39
to rest. Maybe that's when you should
55:41
have the nanny is the weekend. So
55:43
you can do things. Get a weekend
55:45
nanny. You need to you need to
55:47
reassess that. I am your wife, I love you, you
55:50
love me, I'm your partner, but you are
55:52
treating me like I don't deserve a break.
55:54
And I'm sorry, you need me to address
55:56
you. And you do actually need to look
55:58
at the way you speak. to him because
56:01
you're probably at your
56:03
wits end. And you're like, can
56:05
you just change a diaper? No,
56:07
but and he also probably worked
56:09
all day and is tired. That
56:11
pisses me off though, him being
56:13
like, why can't you ask how we
56:16
can divide? How about you decide
56:18
how we can divide and conquer?
56:20
You're like, you decide how we
56:22
can divide and conquer. Also, you're
56:25
like, I did divide and conquer.
56:27
And I'm asking. And now do what
56:29
I fucking said. So, but I'm saying I
56:31
would look at the way you're asking
56:34
because if he is sensitive enough that
56:36
the way in which you're asking for
56:38
a thing you desperately need is his
56:40
reason for not doing it, you're
56:42
kind of starting from behind
56:44
anyway. But there has to be
56:46
a serious discussion. Because you're
56:48
not feeling valued, which means you're
56:51
not feeling attracted to him.
56:53
That should be his number one concern.
56:55
Yeah. I don't like your husband.
56:57
I mean, you don't like
56:59
husbands. I like some
57:01
husband. I have at least
57:03
one friend that has a
57:06
great husband. He's cool.
57:08
It's me. Oh, I have two. Yay!
57:10
Because I like Noah. All right,
57:12
it's time for cobs. Just to
57:15
talk with a cop. We're doing
57:17
it right. Every day. You just
57:19
take a bite. Top of the
57:21
cop. Cob. Cob. Cob. Cob. Cob.
57:24
Cob. Cob. Cob. I had a producer
57:26
session today. A producer session is
57:28
when you skip the regular audition and
57:31
you are asked to read right for
57:33
the producers. You go right to the
57:35
producers. So it was a very big
57:37
deal. It is for a pilot that is
57:39
so funny. And off the record, the
57:41
part had already been offered to someone.
57:43
So I was actually reading in case
57:46
this person could not do it. And
57:48
I was like, you know what? Less
57:50
pressure, let's do it. Yeah, meet some
57:52
people. The parking structure at the
57:54
NBC Universal lot is like its
57:56
own special ring of hell and
57:58
all the spots. that you might
58:01
want to take are reserved up
58:03
until like the fifth floor. And
58:05
it's like the Bermuda triangle and
58:07
it's disorienting and you come out
58:09
and you're on top of this
58:11
building that doesn't look like a
58:13
parking structure and then you can't
58:15
remember where you came back in.
58:17
I had to walk back three or
58:19
four times in front of my car
58:21
before I realized where it was
58:23
and you're in heels. It's just, I
58:25
don't know any studio where I love
58:28
the parking situation. No. Just leaving an
58:30
audition when you always feel that
58:32
no matter how well you did, it
58:34
could have been better. And I'm just
58:36
like skulking back to my car
58:39
in uncomfortable heels that I could be.
58:41
And I was like, I don't need,
58:43
I don't need sneakers, I know where
58:45
my car is. And it's just me
58:48
holding my clicker up to my jaw
58:50
trying to click, you know, because that
58:52
helps you find your car, because it
58:54
goes through your brain. to the thing
58:57
he goes, come on, I'll show you.
58:59
And I go, and I actually, I
59:01
actually want, I fucking hate this building.
59:03
And he goes, I've lost a whole
59:05
lunch break to try to figure out
59:07
how to get out. Oh, I know.
59:09
Oh, fuck you. Parking structure at
59:11
Universal. My bottom is that
59:13
Facebook for like five days now,
59:15
five or six times a day,
59:17
tries to get me to watch
59:20
a video of Viola Davis from
59:22
The Woman King, which was a
59:24
movie that I really liked, but
59:26
came out like two years ago,
59:28
and they just keep serving it
59:30
to me. And every time it'll
59:32
be like five minutes ago, 17
59:35
minutes, like, it's new every time.
59:37
Like my Facebook just keeps going,
59:39
you gotta watch, you gotta watch.
59:41
Hey, you looked at this. You
59:43
looked, so you're going to finish it?
59:45
You're going to finish that? I mean,
59:47
I am going to use this at
59:50
an excuse to say, do you know
59:52
who wrote the woman king? Maria Bellow,
59:54
the bar owner from Coyote Ugly,
59:56
who's wonderful, but what a,
59:58
I love that trivia. So anyway,
1:00:00
Facebook, I'm never opening
1:00:03
that video. Leave me alone. I
1:00:05
weirdly is weirdly, you say that,
1:00:07
you know that movie, Maxine,
1:00:09
it's got three X's in it, and
1:00:12
it's got me a goth. I
1:00:14
just saw like a bus wallpapered
1:00:16
with it, and I was like, I
1:00:18
thought this came out a while
1:00:20
ago. So either that bus is
1:00:22
old, I was like, when is
1:00:24
this going away? And I read
1:00:26
for that movie. You read for
1:00:28
that movie. I got it. That
1:00:30
makes more sense. I was like,
1:00:32
this movie's been around forever. Got
1:00:34
it. X is much older, but
1:00:36
Maxine is at least a year old.
1:00:38
It's old enough that there's enough
1:00:40
content out there, but I'm like,
1:00:42
are we still wrapping buses with
1:00:44
this? Maybe it came out on
1:00:46
Blue Ray? I think they just
1:00:48
like have, like they were between
1:00:50
wraps on the bus. Yeah. I
1:00:53
can't keep up between that and
1:00:55
the Marvel Universe? I don't know
1:00:57
what's going on. Make sure to reply
1:00:59
to it. But I'm wearing wide
1:01:01
leg jeans during a torrential downpour.
1:01:03
Now sitting at the office with
1:01:05
wet feet. I did see that.
1:01:07
It's a bummer because I love a
1:01:09
wide leg gene. Right, but it's so
1:01:12
related. You're like, oh, I wore my
1:01:14
funji and then just soaked. Top? Top
1:01:16
of the cob. The fan one I'm
1:01:18
doing right now because you're going to
1:01:21
New Zealand. So. Top. Not sure which
1:01:23
episode, but a while ago Eliza mentioned
1:01:25
this amazing smoked lavender candle she found
1:01:27
in New Zealand. Love these? I got
1:01:30
a loving all things lavender I tried to
1:01:32
find it and it didn't ship to the
1:01:34
US, but my sister recently was heading to
1:01:36
New Zealand so I asked if she tried
1:01:38
to find her if she had time and
1:01:41
she did. Now I have my very own
1:01:43
smoked lavender candle and I can confirm it
1:01:45
as subtle and fancy. So if you
1:01:47
need more Eliza, now is your time to get
1:01:49
them. I'm blanking on the company name,
1:01:51
it's in the other room, I should go look,
1:01:54
but I got it in the town of
1:01:56
Littleton, which is a gorgeous, adorable town
1:01:58
outside of Auckland. I think that feels
1:02:01
right. Amber Jack Candle Company. Amber
1:02:03
Jack, that's what it is. Well,
1:02:05
if you're, if you're listening to this,
1:02:07
Amber Jack, tell me where else I can
1:02:09
get you because I can bring home a
1:02:12
bunch and ship it myself. My top is,
1:02:14
so, you know, we're recording at night and
1:02:16
on my PJ top. So I just throw
1:02:18
on a sweater so I'd be appropriate
1:02:20
for this zoom. So it's really hot.
1:02:23
So I'm really excited when this ends.
1:02:25
I'm gonna go drink a really cold
1:02:27
Martinelli's apple juice in the little orb.
1:02:30
Yeah, the apple orb. Yeah, it's an
1:02:32
apple, Emily. But it doesn't have
1:02:34
any... At the top doesn't
1:02:37
have like little glass leaves,
1:02:39
kind of? Oh, I need to look.
1:02:41
This could be fun. I'll see. Go
1:02:43
check, I'll wait. I can't. I'm
1:02:45
not wearing pants. My top
1:02:47
is like... I just blurred out
1:02:49
for some reason. I'm like,
1:02:52
did someone blur her tissue?
1:02:54
My top is like a different
1:02:57
color than the rest of
1:02:59
your body. It's even paler.
1:03:01
Well, my top what? Okay, I've
1:03:03
got two tops. Yeah, you said you
1:03:05
had two. You could do two. I'm
1:03:07
just going to do the one. Okay,
1:03:09
so write the other one down. No,
1:03:12
I hadn't slept much these
1:03:14
last few days. there's a lot
1:03:16
of there's just been a lot and taking and
1:03:18
my husband's out of town so it's just been
1:03:20
taking care of Sierra and doing a lot and
1:03:22
you know still doing sets at night and I
1:03:25
was taking care of her on the road and
1:03:27
I did not get that sleep on the plane
1:03:29
like I'd planned because it was very weak and
1:03:31
trying to spend time with Ethan and obviously
1:03:33
anyone who's listening to this just being a
1:03:35
mom who works compounded with we've had a
1:03:38
lot we've had a lot we've like a
1:03:40
skyrocket and crime here in LA and there's
1:03:42
a lot of break-ins. particularly in my neighborhood.
1:03:44
So I had to attend a community safety
1:03:47
meeting where we all decided to hire private
1:03:49
arm security and but you know you go
1:03:51
home to a house where it's just you
1:03:54
and your kids and the nanny and you
1:03:56
start to get nervous about that. So I
1:03:58
had just anxiety anxious. Plus I
1:04:00
have tonight as so I couldn't sleep. So
1:04:02
I was operating as of last night on
1:04:05
about five cumulative hours of sleep
1:04:07
for the last four days and
1:04:09
I had been dead on my feet. Like
1:04:11
zero, like, it's just struggling through
1:04:13
things and you're afraid to go to
1:04:16
bed during the day because you don't
1:04:18
want to not be able to sleep at
1:04:20
night and just waking up every few hours
1:04:22
and when I can't sleep, then I have
1:04:24
to pee. And it's just been a true
1:04:27
personal hell. And last night, I...
1:04:29
Dug into my bag and I found
1:04:31
an Ambien and I took that
1:04:33
Ambien at 830 at night And
1:04:35
I sent some weird text messages
1:04:38
and then I went to bed
1:04:40
and I did that knowing Sierra
1:04:42
would wake me up early and I
1:04:44
was like even if she wakes
1:04:46
me up at like six I'll still
1:04:48
get nine rock hard hours Yeah, and
1:04:51
I did and I did yeah, and
1:04:53
I did yeah, and I did it and
1:04:55
I did it and I did I never
1:04:57
take sleep aids and I was just like,
1:04:59
I need this, I need to be awake
1:05:02
for this. Audition, by the way, that
1:05:04
I went over before I went to
1:05:06
bed and I was like having
1:05:08
trouble reading and saying words. And
1:05:11
when I woke up, it was basically fully
1:05:13
memorized. Oh, weird. Yeah. I hope I
1:05:15
get the part so I can do
1:05:17
the monologue for you. Oh my
1:05:19
gosh, okay. Yeah. The downside is she does
1:05:21
have a southern accent and I ran it
1:05:24
so many times that it's kind of
1:05:26
been baked into everything that I've said today.
1:05:28
I know. If you go back and listen
1:05:30
this episode, you'll hear like a little bit
1:05:32
of an accent. Because the character stays with
1:05:35
me. What is it? I don't know. Day
1:05:37
Lewis. I don't break character until they say
1:05:39
code on the DVD. What's the, or
1:05:41
Robert Johnny Jr from Tropic Thunder? Oh. So
1:05:43
they wrap the commentary? Something like
1:05:45
that. If you're listening to this, it
1:05:48
means I'm off to see you soon.
1:05:50
Australia, we'll see you in Sydney, Brisbane,
1:05:52
Melbourne, not in that order, and then
1:05:54
I'm heading to you out here on
1:05:56
New Zealand, in Auckland. Keep your
1:05:59
questions coming. these ones I'll see
1:06:01
you on the Patreon. Send me D.M.
1:06:03
if you are verified and you have
1:06:05
a dope coffee shop and you want
1:06:07
me to come interview you for
1:06:10
my new coffee series that I'm
1:06:12
going to be doing. In Australia,
1:06:14
New Zealand. Yeah. In the meantime,
1:06:16
I thought the burp was going
1:06:18
to be louder.
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