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Hi everyone. Welcome to At Home Sally.

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I'm Sally I'm Sally Clarkson and I

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have the biggest privilege in the

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world to be with so many

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friends from all over the world

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world who join me every week to

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listen to my stories, inspiration, biblical

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encouragement, and I am just so

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glad that you're here today. Thanks

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so much. for joining. for joining me.

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Hello my friends. it's Clarkson. Welcome

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to At Home with Sally with Sally and

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That's what it used to be.

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what it used to today is a fun

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day for Nathan and me. me. We

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We have a book that we

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wrote that we're kind of doing

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a soft release on because we

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know that everybody has been inundated

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over the holidays the things to

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buy, things to do, things to

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enjoy at your home. we And so

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we wanted to put out a

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gentle but very meaningful book book. we

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thought would be be of to you

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this time of year. time of year. So here

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you are again on my podcast because

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we are sitting in Colorado we are out

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of the forest looking fun forest having we

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thought we would do this today before

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Nathan leaves. today I'm trying to, you

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know, as know I'm trying of you might know,

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I live in New York City with my

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wife, know, I live in and we love New

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York. We love the energy the the and the

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noise, but the noise, can also can also get... a a

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little overwhelming time time so I'm to

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soak up every minute of beautiful

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trees and big big rooms and laughing fun

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having fun as much as I came before we

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much as I can before we

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fly back into the really fun it's

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really fun being here. Well, tell us

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about where you live in the

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little rooms and where Central Park is

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and Give us some color. Well we us some

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color City and it's just in

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New York City You

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know I have a friend who

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beautiful step I have

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a friend who says

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when you step

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outside in New York

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City, it feels

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like you're... walking onto a stage.

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And so everyone's playing a part. It

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feels like it really does kind of

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feel like a musical almost, which is

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so, so much fun. And we absolutely

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love it. But we also love coming

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home to the quiet trees and the

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beautiful mountains. And so I feel like

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we kind of get the best of

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both worlds. So much fun. I love

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to go to New York. And of

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course, people know that I love Oxford,

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too. places of dimension. Aren't you glad

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your kids live in really fun places?

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I am. I said now when you

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when you grow up as adults and

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if you're not going to live next

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door to me then go someplace fun.

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You have an excuse to go and

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enjoy. So that I can go to

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plays and walk in the park and

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eat great food and yeah. Yeah. So

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you know hurry up and get to

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New York because I'll come busy. Anyway,

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we wanted to just to... Thank you

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all. We've gotten so many wonderful messages

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and notes. So many of you read

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our book different the first time around.

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And many of you have said you

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look so forward to this book. And

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I'm really excited about this book because

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in a broader sense, when I think

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about what Nathan and I had in

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mind, really a central part of all

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of the satisfaction of our lives revolves

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around relationships. If we can cultivate relationships

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where we feel seen and heard and

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can pour that kind of love into

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someone else too, then we feel like

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we have meaning in life because we

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matter to someone. And yet to cultivate

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relationships... in this crazy place automatically means

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that there's going to be some conflict

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because there are introverts and opinions about

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every possible thing in the world and

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different values different favorite foods different all

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these different things and so we wanted

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to write a book that celebrated the

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uniqueness of people that gave kind of

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bridges forward and in building close relationships

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maybe with someone you don't understand but

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who given to you by God is

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a person in your life. So we're

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just going to talk about a few

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things today and also just how much

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fun we have because that's what we

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can talk about the most. Well it

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is fun you know writing this book

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and this book goes into what we've

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mentioned. It's out today and we're so

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excited for it to be in your

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hands because you know every single chapter

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does explore a different kind of way

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we can all be unique and you

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know whether it's personality or learning education

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styles or how one is disciplined the

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best or how one you know what

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kind of dreams someone has but all

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of these things all these different parts

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of what makes someone unique are worthy

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of exploring because as a of exactly

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what you said, which is ultimately the

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thrust of this book is not just

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how to figure someone out like a

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puzzle piece and you know just kind

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of coldly understand, okay, they're different this

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way, but it's for the sake of

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relationship, it's for the sake of drawing

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close to someone and celebrating them and

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giving them a place where they can

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be celebrated even in their uniqueness and

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understanding. of all the different ways, your

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kids, your husbands, your friends, your family

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can be different, but to help it

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foster deeper relationship and a deeper appreciation

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and celebration of. the unique people that

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we all are, including yourselves by the

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way. You're all unique as well. And

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so hopefully when you read this book,

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you're going to start seeing, you know,

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I'm kind of unique in this way

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too. And I want to be understood

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for being unique. Well, you want to

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be understood as for the purpose of

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relationship. And I think that's a central

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thing. I get so many letters from

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people about our first book different is.

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How are you guys still friends? You

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know, you're still friends with your mom?

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That seems like such a foreign concept.

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You know, I'll be on set shooting

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a TV show or something and I'll

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talk about, oh yeah, I just talked

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to my mom and they'll be like,

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oh, I haven't talked to my mom

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in, you know, five years. Or they're

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dreading having to go home for the

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holidays and that's such a foreign thing.

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I mean, I get letters from many

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people, how do you still have a

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relationship with your mom? And it's because

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of this, because she learned to love

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and understand all uniquenesses and things that

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made me different, but not only love

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them, but celebrate them. So that's a

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big part of the relationship. Well, I

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have to say that you are so

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much fun for me. We could get

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each other into a lot of trouble.

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Nathan has a lot of particular... similarities

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in his personality I think that I

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do and so we can as we

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have been doing all morning we've been

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drinking a thousand cups of coffee yeah

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yeah what we needed more coffee yeah

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there you go and we've been talking

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about how we both feel lazy we

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don't want to do anything we don't

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do anything but maybe you know anything

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fun or I think we've we've done

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a lot of work in our whole

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life so we get a day off

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yeah we get occasionally But also, I

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have to say, and I don't know

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how it happened, but Nathan champions me,

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encourages me, affirms me, shares so many

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ideas and ideas and thoughts and books,

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and we talk for hours and hours

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and hours, he is just, if I

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could design a best friend, it would

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be Nathan. And well, I think that

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a lot of people write to me

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and say, how do you control your

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adult children? And I think, well, I

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don't want to be controlled, and you'd

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better not ever control me. So I

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would never ever, ever, could never control

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Nathan. He's bigger than life, and his

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ideals, and his movies, and his books,

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and all that reflect that bigness of

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soul. But it's about enjoying. And it's

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about celebration of the distinct differences. We

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we have our likenesses and we have

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our differences But what do you if

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you look at like say a lot

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of the people you meet on set

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or you're living in a very secular

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arena and What kinds of stories do

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you hear about people that reflect on

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maybe broken or chaotic relationships with people

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in their family or people in their

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neighbor, whatever it is? What is something

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we need to know and understand from

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people who have felt alienated in that

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realm? Yeah, that's a great question because

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I think it's one that's becoming more

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and more relevant. You know, even just

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look at stats and figures and studies,

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we see that relationships familiarly are falling

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apart and the reality is this is

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so detrimental to people we were made

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for family for closeness for friendship and

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so it's so funny to me that

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you know you and me being friends

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I'm gonna I'm a fully grown adult

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out living my own life and doing

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things and we're still best buds how

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rare that is, but I also think

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it's so valuable and it's unfortunate as

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you're talking about, you know, having interacted

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with many people who are reeling from

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the breakdown of the relationships with their

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family and how it affects them, what

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I see is that they oftentimes feel

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that they were never understood. That they

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unique parts of who they... I totally

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agree. I felt like that too. Right?

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And I think it's so almost universal,

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unfortunately. But I see so many people

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who... have experienced life where they were

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never loved for who they were. And

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so that creates a natural alienation from

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the people who raised them because they

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don't feel that closeness, they don't feel

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appreciated or celebrated in their uniqueness. You

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know, I see people feeling so very

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alone. because of the ways they're different.

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Oh my goodness and we do not

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need to be alone in a fearful

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world. Well it's a loneliness epidemic as

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the experts are saying. That's so sad

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it wrecks havoc. In fact loneliness is

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as dangerous to your physical health as

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smoking. I know, isn't that amazing? And

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so when I see the so unfortunate

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so many people don't have close relationships

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with their family because they were never

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loved uniquely when they don't have that

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friendship to rely upon those support systems

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it really... is so detrimental

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to our health and the

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whole world's health. whole world's

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health my hope for this book

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is of my hope

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for this book

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is that it will

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give somewhat of

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a blueprint of to

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just how to you

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know understand these

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different subjects but a

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blueprint of how

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to form a close

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relationship because they're

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so very needed now

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and it really

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is such a really

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beneficial thing And this

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book can walk you

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through how to

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love someone uniquely because

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to be loved

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we have to know

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that we're not

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loved for who should

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be who we not be.

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for how the

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box we can fit

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in we're not

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loved for what we Comparison to

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other people loved because you not you know,

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you should be someone else love love

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and just intrinsically for who we are

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in the same way that God loves

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us And that's really relate relationship grows

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and until that can happen people are

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gonna continue people are going to the ramifications

10:45

of loneliness and separation. of and

10:48

sometimes I get letters from

10:50

people in our audience and

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they'll say, and they'll say, I feel like

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it. It's hard to love this child child

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don't know what to do with this child

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with whatever or not living up to my it of what

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they should be. And I think my I

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want you to know, first of all,

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is I child is exactly. first of all, is

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you were supposed to be the

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mother of were the parent be the In

11:11

other words, it's no mistake that

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you have that child. mistake that you have

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that child. And also, I would say, and

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people know this about us, but

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I don't think that God made

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life to be formulaic. be In

11:24

other words, I could never say, could

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never do these 10 things that

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I did to Nathan and you are

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guaranteed that you will have a

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close relationship with with him. Because I had

11:35

to cultivate for very unique unique, really. are

11:37

so children are so different,

11:39

processor, so Nathan just was

11:41

a verbal processor, so he

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loved to sit with

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me and talk. And we still do

11:48

that. hear my is having someone care about share my inner

11:50

world that I can share with them and talk,

11:52

talk, talk, talk, talk. And then if they take

11:54

interest and show interest and talk to me, let

11:56

me talk to them, then I feel loved. I feel

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But that's not going to be true. of every

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child. No, and I look at

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Joy for instance, and Joy really

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loves it when someone does something

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for her. You know, packing a

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bag, washing the dishes, doing whatever,

12:11

helps when somebody is a helper

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to her, she feels loved. And

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she's one of the best gift

12:17

givers in the whole world. Oh

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my goodness. Well, she always connects

12:22

people. Yeah. And she tries to

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bless us by connecting this. And

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Joel is my... deep, deep best

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friend. You and he are such

12:30

a gift to me. But as

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an introvert, he wants me to

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enter into and ask him questions

12:37

about his music and listen to

12:39

it and enter into the worlds

12:41

of creativity that he lives in

12:43

inside himself. And Sarah, in so

12:45

many ways, was such a companion

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of we just loved friendship and

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doing life together and you know

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sharing time sharing time yeah and

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and then there's a combination of

12:56

all those things but I think

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that our goal is to say

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you have the ability sometimes some

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of the things that hinder us

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in our relationships and I would

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Say really pray about this, but

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sometimes I if you have had

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a harsh angry Background if somebody

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has been unfair to you if

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someone has been passive towards you

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Or uncaring a nurturing a lot

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of people have never been nurtured

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to know what life is like

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and so I would say Whatever

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you can do to grow, to

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understand new things, I read a

13:30

lot of books and copied a

13:33

lot of wise people. If I

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found a wise woman, I copied

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her. I thought that was the

13:39

best thing to do. I read

13:41

books, I read scripture about forgiving

13:43

70 times 7 and being patient

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and being gentle. A gentle answer

13:48

turns away wrath and apologizing for

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the mistakes I made. And scripture

13:52

was an incredibly informative and insightful

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and practical foundation in my life

13:56

for learning how to do relationships

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following Christ. He gave words of

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love to his disciples. Peter, you're

14:03

the rock. And John, you're the

14:05

disciple that I love. And Thomas,

14:07

you are a man in whom

14:09

there is no guile. Probably a

14:11

T, you know. how you have

14:13

entirely unique in different relationships with

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all your kids. Yeah. And you

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just just showed how Jesus had

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entirely unique relationships with all of

14:22

his disciples. And that's something I

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think is really really valuable is

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to remember that your relationship with

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anybody, since every person is unique,

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your relationship with them and your

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relationship with them, is going to

14:35

be unique. It's not going to

14:37

look like something else. And we

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even do that reflected in Jesus.

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I love that. Well, Jesus was

14:44

my model in almost everything I

14:46

did. Jesus taught me to be

14:48

a mother. I hear he's pretty

14:50

good stuff in what he said.

14:52

Yeah. And anyway, we just have

14:54

thought and talked about these things,

14:56

but what would you say is

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the hardest or one of the

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hardest as you look back in

15:03

your life ways that maybe people

15:05

who didn't accept you or other

15:07

people that you know are the

15:09

people you're talking with. What is

15:12

one of the most detrimental things

15:14

that you think can really hinder

15:16

a relationship? Yeah, I think if

15:18

you are pushed away or cut

15:20

off enough because of who you

15:22

are, that you can have this

15:24

kind of pernicious little thought sneak

15:27

into your head that starts saying

15:29

you're a wrong kind of person.

15:31

Who you are is wrong. messed

15:33

up. They're right. The other people

15:35

are right. How that person looks

15:37

at it. How that person acts

15:40

is the correct way and you're

15:42

the wrong way. And that's something

15:44

that I think can be really,

15:46

really... detrimental to the heart of

15:48

a child and to the heart

15:50

of an adult. Yeah. That if

15:52

we believe... Hard of marriage. Yeah,

15:55

the heart of a spouse, the

15:57

heart of anyone, I think that

15:59

if you believe that you, who

16:01

you are inherently just isn't good.

16:03

That's going to be such a

16:05

detrimental thing to walk through life,

16:07

believing that about yourself. But when

16:10

you find relationships and you form

16:12

relationships with people who love you

16:14

for who you are and all

16:16

the different uniqueness that God has

16:18

created you with, that... with that

16:20

comes a real freedom that you

16:23

can live into the rest of

16:25

your life and that's something I

16:27

look back and because I was

16:29

loved specifically by you with all

16:31

of my own unique traits and

16:33

personality, proclivities and even mental illnesses,

16:35

even passions, desires, whatever it might

16:38

be because I was loved uniquely

16:40

by my parents and by my

16:42

family that enabled me to live

16:44

with freedom into the world not

16:46

believing I'm wrong and need a

16:48

change but rather I'm exactly who

16:50

God created me to be and

16:53

I need to grow. And I

16:55

think that's something that's really provided

16:57

me a lot of, yeah, a

16:59

lot of freedom in my life

17:01

to actually go and live out

17:03

the story that God wanted me

17:06

to tell. Well, I was thinking

17:08

about another aspect too. I think

17:10

that all of us are flawed.

17:12

All of us have weak areas

17:14

or maybe vulnerable areas. All of

17:16

us are going to make mistakes.

17:18

And I feel like that's an

17:21

important thing to come to a

17:23

relationship with. to look at the

17:25

expectations that you have of people.

17:27

I feel like sometimes when I

17:29

see these sweet young moms, they

17:31

want their children to be perfect

17:34

by age five, or they want

17:36

little boys to sit still. And

17:38

it took me until seven to

17:40

make perfection. I was still working

17:42

on it. But you know, there's...

17:44

We go through seasons and we

17:46

go through development and we hopefully

17:49

will grow. I grow every year

17:51

of my life, but I've never

17:53

quit sending. I've never quit making

17:55

mistakes. And I think coming into...

17:57

relationship and knowing

17:59

that knowing never

18:01

be perfect, it

18:04

will never, uh, no person

18:06

will ever be perfect. And

18:08

I'm never going to be

18:10

perfect. It's accepting myself and learning

18:12

to be content with who

18:14

God made me and learning

18:16

to give myself learning grace that

18:18

God gives me by just,

18:20

um, through through His Spirit, through His Holy

18:22

Spirit, through me of one. sin

18:24

or maybe maybe attitude at a time

18:26

doesn't pour it doesn't pour it all

18:29

on have this week you have this week you

18:31

did this and this and this

18:33

and this and this and this

18:35

and this and and this and probably

18:37

what probably what I'm imperfect all the

18:39

time but it's time but us room

18:42

for grace for development for becoming

18:44

when when Peter I've said this many

18:46

times but when Peter when Peter denied

18:49

Christ and said, I don't know him.

18:51

And three times at the times of the the

18:53

pinnacle of the most important

18:55

moment in his life, was Jesus

18:57

was not biting his fingernails. was not

18:59

was not saying to himself,

19:01

Peter, you've ruined the story. a

19:03

As a matter of fact, Peter

19:05

made the story because Jesus had said to

19:07

him said to him after he

19:09

returned, strengthen the brethren. And

19:11

Jesus kind of of reinstated him he built

19:13

a built a fire and made

19:15

them fish and they had

19:17

been fishing all night. all night. He

19:19

said, Peter, you are the rock. And

19:21

so it's real important, I it's real important,

19:23

I think, yourself both accepting yourself

19:26

that you will make, you

19:28

will be flawed and make mistakes.

19:30

And so will your imperfect

19:32

children, imperfect husband, husband, And they're gonna

19:34

make unique mistakes. they're so true. to make

19:36

the unique ways you can actually

19:38

make mistakes. so true. now we

19:40

have another ways you can actually make

19:42

mistakes. Oh, think that another book

19:45

to write. Take perfection and performance

19:47

out of the equation and

19:49

put in put in their

19:51

place and Patience and patience,

19:53

time people time to grow,

19:55

give yourself time to

19:57

grow, unconditional love and live

19:59

into the love of Christ, which

20:01

says nothing can separate you

20:04

from his love. Nothing, and

20:06

tell your children that neither

20:08

death, nor life, nor angels,

20:10

or principalities, or things present,

20:12

or things to come, or

20:14

heightened or death, or any

20:17

created thing. So I would

20:19

say as you cultivate this

20:21

heart for appreciating the uniqueness

20:23

of your children, your husband,

20:25

your friends, your coworkers, your

20:27

whatever, yourself. Give yourself the

20:30

grace that God gives to

20:32

each one of us every

20:34

single day. Yeah, I so

20:36

totally agree. The fact that

20:38

I was not expected to

20:40

be perfect. And actually... Because

20:43

I wasn't. I couldn't expect

20:45

you something. I was expected

20:47

to be imperfect because you

20:49

knew I was a human.

20:51

You knew I was a

20:53

person who was flawed. Okay,

21:01

there. So we'll have Keely take that

21:03

out. Okay. But the fact that you

21:06

actually expected me to be imperfect. To

21:08

understand that. Yeah. And that was kind

21:10

of part of the deal, but I

21:13

was still loved in spite of it,

21:15

actually allowed me to grow more because

21:17

I wasn't worried about perfection. I was

21:20

worried about having a heart that was

21:22

willing to grow and mature and you

21:24

already knew I was going to make

21:27

mistakes. But I took that. that model

21:29

from how someone saw me that they

21:31

knew I was going to mess up

21:34

but they still had hope and wanted

21:36

to believe forward for me and I

21:38

took that as an adult I became

21:41

an adult and that model that I

21:43

saw from you guys from you loving

21:45

me in spite of my mistakes and

21:48

believing in me in spite of my

21:50

mistakes I now was able to to

21:52

see that and how God related to

21:55

me as an adult and say that,

21:57

oh God knows I'm going to make

21:59

mistakes and fall and trip and fail,

22:02

but as long as my heart has

22:04

turned towards him, there's a forward momentum

22:06

belief in who I can. being what

22:09

I can do. And you're growing and

22:11

you believe that God is for you.

22:13

If God is for you, who can

22:16

be against you? Yeah. I got a

22:18

letter this week from somebody that I

22:20

don't know so I'm not gossiping about.

22:23

someone, but she basically said every single

22:25

day I am frustrated with my five-year-old

22:27

boy because I either spend the whole

22:30

day correcting him or I spend the

22:32

whole day being irritated by him but

22:34

trying to accept him and she said

22:37

I don't know what to do. And

22:39

I think changing expectations of people, like

22:41

I know from having boys now and

22:44

having lived through boys that Nathan had

22:46

so much energy he... I can't believe

22:48

what he accomplishes now. He does movies,

22:51

he does music, he does his podcasts,

22:53

he, oh my goodness, so many different

22:55

things. And I can look back now

22:58

and see that that energy was bursting

23:00

inside of him when he was a

23:02

five-year-old boy. He needed to wiggle, move,

23:05

run, dance, play, pretend, go to King

23:07

of the Mountain. It's exactly what I

23:09

needed from God to accomplish. the story.

23:12

Right, you needed a big capacity and

23:14

someone said to me once, are you

23:16

neurotic? Because, you know, you're writing too

23:19

many books. And I thought, how does

23:21

someone not think? I'm thinking in the

23:23

shower, I'm thinking when I'm washing dishes,

23:26

I'm all these different things. Maybe you

23:28

work, but God uses that. That's what

23:30

I told her. I said, well, I

23:33

think he can even use neurotic people

23:35

for his story. Yeah. We have benefited

23:37

by growing, making mistakes for sure, but

23:40

growing in this whole area of learning

23:42

unconditional love from God and learning how

23:44

valuable it is to accept the design,

23:47

the beautiful unique design that he gave

23:49

each one of us. And it's our

23:51

hope that our book will deeply encourage

23:54

you. Do you want to say anything

23:56

to close out, Nathan? I want to

23:58

say one thing. Oh, wait. You go

24:01

ahead. You know, I never knew that

24:03

you were actually going to be a

24:05

successful actor and a successful movie maker

24:08

and a successful writer. I mean, if

24:10

somebody had said, oh, just chill, Sally,

24:12

he's got a future with a hope.

24:15

And he's going to find that apartment

24:17

in New York that nobody else could

24:19

find. And he's actually going to have

24:22

a wife who likes the same things.

24:24

And it's just as devoted to working

24:26

hard. You know, I would have felt

24:29

it more at ease. So I'm saying

24:31

to all of you out there right

24:33

now, it's going to be okay. And

24:36

it doesn't mean everything will turn out

24:38

well or perfectly, but you can trust

24:40

God with what's ahead of you with

24:43

your children's lives. I just am absolutely

24:45

amazed at my four children who did

24:47

beyond whatever I did in their lives

24:50

to prepare them for good lives. But

24:52

so much of it came from... loving

24:54

and celebrating and working with and believing

24:57

in the unique design that God created

24:59

us. And so I guess the last

25:01

thing I'd say is I just hope

25:04

this book is a comfort to you.

25:06

It does have a lot of practical

25:08

advice and wisdom, particularly from my mom

25:11

and reflections on the whole host of

25:13

ways we can all be different and

25:15

unique, but I hope it's a comfort

25:18

and hopefully a guide in this new

25:20

year as you set forth to love

25:22

well and live well. I hope it

25:25

reaches, I hope our stories and thoughts

25:27

connect with your stories in your mind

25:29

and your heart. But that's it for

25:32

me. Okay, how about, oh I need

25:34

to tell everybody before I end this

25:36

podcast. This should be a Tuesday that

25:39

you're listening to it. You might be

25:41

listening to it later in the week

25:43

and it'll be too late. But tomorrow,

25:46

or on Wednesday, and isn't that the

25:48

8th? Let me be sure. Let me

25:50

be sure. Let me be sure. on

25:53

Wednesday, and this has nothing to do

25:55

with his book actually, that on Wednesday

25:57

the 8th at 6 o'clock mountain. time,

26:00

which which makes We're not

26:02

going to mess. Seven not good

26:04

at math. time, eight Eastern

26:06

eight Look at you, way to

26:08

go. Five Pacific time. Anyway, I am

26:10

so convicted this year so convicted

26:12

this year as I continue

26:15

to enter into maybe

26:17

one of the last long

26:19

seasons of hopefully, but I'm

26:21

I'm going to in my

26:23

membership this year year. Life

26:26

with Sally, I'm I'm going to

26:28

be doing some live comfort.

26:30

for my my membership. So if you

26:32

if you would like to ask

26:34

questions just just be present at Zoom join

26:36

my membership join my membership and you'll

26:38

have a way to sign up

26:40

for the Zoom and I'm looking so looking

26:42

so forward, I just want to

26:44

remind those of you who are

26:46

in my membership to be sure

26:49

to stay tuned to be Wednesday. stay tuned

26:51

for o 'clock in the in the... in the evening

26:53

and send those questions those questions my way

26:55

and I'll probably only get to about

26:57

a tenth of them, I wanted to I

26:59

wanted to really focus on discipleship

27:01

and encouragement and inspiration this year, and

27:03

that's what I'll be doing. be doing. Well,

27:06

add to that that if you are

27:08

interested in hearing my mom and I

27:10

speak in a series of videos in a series

27:12

of each chapter of Uniquely You, please make please make

27:14

sure to go to her membership. lots

27:16

of cool stuff going on at her

27:18

membership. But we know we record a lot

27:20

of videos about each chapter. We just

27:22

talked about the subjects that we reflected

27:24

on in the book. Also, the

27:26

book is out now book is out now, books

27:28

are sold. That's right. books are sold.

27:30

That's right. My membership, I always I

27:33

forget to say this, say this, it's

27:35

to go to Life With sally.com and

27:37

you.com, at the and you can look at

27:39

the different photos and read all about

27:41

it, and that's where you can join. Nate,

27:43

would you would you mind? I Did I

27:45

make you pray the other day? day? didn't

27:47

make me pray, but I will be happy to pray. I

27:50

will be ha, ha, ha.

27:52

God, thank you thank you so much,

27:54

of all, of all, for the uniqueness

27:56

that you have put into the

27:58

world, the world, incredible array of... of beauty and

28:00

design that's different but all part

28:02

of your of your intention. And we're so

28:04

happy to live in a

28:06

beautiful world with such unique diversity.

28:08

unique that we are all created

28:10

uniquely in your image in so

28:12

happy to have that a a

28:14

reality. I pray I have that you

28:16

would help us us both love

28:18

and accept and celebrate our our as

28:21

we do that for others. And I pray

28:23

that this book might connect with any who

28:25

pick it up up and that you would bless

28:27

the rest of our weeks and we would

28:29

see your love and your hands in our

28:31

life and we would feel your unique relationship

28:34

with us and celebrate that. We

28:36

love you and in your name, that.

28:38

We Amen. you Thanks for joining us.

28:40

Bye for Bye -bye. us. Bye. I

28:45

hope you've enjoyed our time together today and

28:47

that you'll join me next week. Be

28:49

sure to look for more

28:51

inspiration on my blog at

28:54

on my.com. Thanks for joining

28:56

me. Bye -bye. Bye-bye.