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The following talk
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was given
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at the
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Insight Meditation
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Center in
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Redwood City
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California. Please
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visit our
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website at
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audiodarma.org. Next
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talk on Samadi. We're
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talking about the fourth
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Jana. And it's not
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something that people will
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experience often and regularly
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in life and maybe
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occasionally it's experienced in
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very particular circumstances, something
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like this. But even
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a meditation is not
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something that is easy
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to enter into and
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abide. But one
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of the ways maybe to
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get a feel for it
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is through the imagination and
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through some of the characteristics
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of it which might appear
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in ordinary life. And one
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of those is there's a
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deep effortless quality that is
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highlighted in the fourth Jana.
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Before entering into Samadi, there
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is a kind of effort
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that's being done in practice,
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sincere effort, and hopefully an
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effort that you enjoy doing,
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that you find a way
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that it's enjoyable and satisfying,
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you look forward to, just
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like you would forward to
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certain kinds of activities that
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are fun to do, like
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playing an instrument or maybe
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cooking if you enjoy that, or
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sometimes you put a tremendous amount
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of effort into... you know, some
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sport or something, go for a
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hike in the hills and it
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takes a lot of energy. But
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there's a pleasure, there's a
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joy, there's a kind of,
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maybe a kind of effortless
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quality in the sense that
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we're not having to work
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hard against ourselves. So as
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we really enjoy the practice,
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and then to begin finding
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a way that to a
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deeper settling, deeper quieting, calming,
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and while being... deeply centered
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and unified and really feel
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like we're fully here in
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the present moment here, centered
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here in this time and
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place. And then as we
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go through the deepening Samari,
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slowly, there's sometimes sometimes with
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kind of big jumps, but
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slowly there's a transition from
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how much effort we have
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to make and how much
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effortless effort there is, how
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much there's the practice, rather
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we doing the practice, the
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practice is doing us. And
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so to go along with
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that, to feel that shift,
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so we're not overriding the
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effortless part, overriding the way
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the practice practices us, because
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we think it's always up
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to us. We're pushing and
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striving and doing. There's an
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art to knowing when to
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let up. And just enough
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but to stay really present.
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Not so much that the
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mind drifts off, but not
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too much so that there's
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a strain. And so this
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art of kind of knowing
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how to make this shift
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gradual transition until there's less
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and less effort from us
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needed because there's no wondering
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off. We're just here. We're
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entered and abided. We're arrived
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here. And the
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Janas, the four Janas,
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are one way of
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understanding them. Yesterday I
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talked about... progressive stages
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of calming, another way
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of understanding them, it's
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a progressive entering and
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abiding in an effortless
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awareness. Lessenless effort is
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needed. And until we
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get to the fourth
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jana, and it seems
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like there's really no
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effort at all. And
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it can seem like
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there's no effort in
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the third jana, for
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example. But from the
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point of view, the
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fourth jana, there's still
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a little bit orientation
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of the mind towards
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the happiness, towards the
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good qualities of it.
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And so in the
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fourth jana, kind of
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the joy of clear
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recognition, the joy of
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the happiness of awareness,
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the happiness that's a
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little bit activated energy,
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quiet down even more.
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And so there's quite
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a deep feeling of
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effortlessness, but it's effortlessness
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that seems to leave
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what's left is a
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broad, unbounded, sense of
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awareness, of clarity, of
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knowing, of sensing, of
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sensing. of just being
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that maybe has very
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little characteristics to it.
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It's almost, and it's
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like that the awareness
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is aware of itself.
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It's kind of like,
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you know, I'm near-sighted,
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and so if I
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kind of, I've complicated,
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I say no. Without
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my glasses, I don't
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see so well and
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certain distances. all blurry
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and but when I
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put on my glasses
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it's everything is clear
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and I can see
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in certain certain directions
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certain distances and and
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the seeing it's kind
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of like the seeing
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sees its own clarity.
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Well is the object
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that's there that I
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see clearly But there's
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a feeling that it's
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not so much about
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the objects, there's almost
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a feeling that the
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eyes themselves now have
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cleared, there's the eyes
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see their own clarity
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almost. And so the
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awareness knows its own
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clarity, knows its own
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purity, or maybe there's
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some deep, deep, nonverbal
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knowing that knows these
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things. It's a deep
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knowing of something very,
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of what is really
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special, this effortless awareness
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that's clear, it's unruffled,
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there's no waves, there's
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no judgments, and so
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it's very equanimous, and
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it's not reacting to
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anything, so a lot
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of things disappear. because
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part of what the
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mind is, is an
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alarm system. We're alert
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and vigilant for all
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kinds of things, for
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what we're afraid of,
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what we don't want,
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what we want, and
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that kind of vigilance
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falls away. Feeling of
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deep, deep safety. Generally,
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the Janas are very
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hard to experience unless
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somehow we provide our
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whole psychophysical system with
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the reinsurance of a
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deep kind of safety
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in that time. Because
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that's another way of
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describing the jaundice is
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a progressive state of
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feeling more and more
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safe so safe that
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they didn't safety and
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danger disappears entirely and
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we're just there and
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with his clarity with
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his purity with his
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feeling very clean very
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still very quiet there's
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no thoughts at all
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though there might be
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still a little bit
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just in the faint
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kind of nonverbal knowing
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that you know it's
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really you're not involved
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in it just It's
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kind of floats there
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a little bit gently,
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quietly. It has no
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power, there's no energy
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behind it. And the
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mind feels very clean,
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as I've said, and
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one of the characteristics
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of it in the
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description, in my translation,
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I said, disappearance of
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mental happiness and mental
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suffering. It's hard to
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know how to translate
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these two words from
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Polly. Dumanasana and... su-dah,
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su-dah, su-manasana, do-manasana. And
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basically it's kind of
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means good mind and
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bad mind. And it
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might mean something like
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a really elated mind
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or a deflated mind.
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And so the emotional
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tenor, quality of the
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mind, is neither elated
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nor depressed, neither inspired
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nor dispirited, neither sad
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nor, you know, inspired.
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And it can seem
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like that's an amazing
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dullness, amazing blandness. Why
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would anybody want that?
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Well to be in
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it it just feels
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like this is really
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good. It feels so
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pure, so nice, so
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clear, so peaceful, that
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maybe describing it as
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a profound peace, that
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waits almost as if
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that's what's all that's
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left. And maybe we're
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still there in some
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kind of way with
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some kind of attention,
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but the degree to
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which there's any self-centeredness
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or self- involvement, because
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almost if not entirely
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kind of disappeared. an
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effortless awareness and effortless
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peace that we abide
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in. We feel safe
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and we feel comforted
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in. And like wrapping
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ourselves after a nice
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refreshing bath in a
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wonderful bath towel that
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just sit and be
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completely content and happy
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content and be completely
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content and happy content
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and happy content and
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happy content and happy
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content and happy content
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and happy content and
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happy content and happy
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content and happy content
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and happy content and
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happy content and happy
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content and happy content
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and happy as we
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wrapped in the clean,
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clean, a towel, clean
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body, refreshed body, everything
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vibrating with a open,
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clear, equanimous mind awareness.
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So I'll read you
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the description of the
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Fourth Jana. Letting go
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of pleasure and pain.
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with the disappearance of
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mental happiness and mental
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suffering, when enters and
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abides in the purity
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of equanimous awareness of
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the fourth Jana. Once
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it's pervading this body
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with a pure clear
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mind, so that no
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part of the entire
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body is untouched by
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the pure clear mind.
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by the clean clear
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mind. And
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this is
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a mind
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which is
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unpreoccupied with
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itself. Unpreoccupied
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with desires
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and aversions.
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Unpreoccupied by
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fears and
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distress. And
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this makes
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the mind.
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phenomenally ready for
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a transformation because
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as soon as
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the mind is
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preoccupied by something
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it can't, it's
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the hard for
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it to shift
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and change and
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be ready for
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what comes. So,
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so the fourth
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Jana. So we
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have one more
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talk. on
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this fourth John I
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and the Johnos in
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general and I'll kind
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of bring it to
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a kind of conclusion
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tomorrow and talk a
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little bit about what
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follows the Johnas. So
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thank you very much
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and may this day
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be a day that
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you feel the preciousness,
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the joy, the deep
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satisfaction of the way
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that your heart and
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mind can be effortless
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as it moves through
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the day. Don't sacrifice
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the depth of who
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you are by making
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too much effort. Let
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the mind be at
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ease. Thank you.
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