2024 Abu Dhabi Review - Finale Farewells

2024 Abu Dhabi Review - Finale Farewells

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Tuesday, 10th December 2024
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0:00

On this week's episode we review last race

0:02

of the season, talk about the

0:04

last positions in the and say some

0:06

farewells to certain drivers. drivers. Hello

0:21

welcome to another episode of Back

0:23

of the Grid. I'm your host this

0:25

week, Tom, and I am joined

0:27

by I'm your host this week Tom by Chris. am joined

0:29

Hello. Stew. Hello. So by Chris. Hello. of the

0:31

season, gentlemen. race of the season gentlemen.

0:34

this season. on the got

0:36

that. We've got there. To be fair, be

0:38

fair, an by race by Abu

0:40

Dhabi standards, I would say say,

0:42

speaking. speaking. One of of those has a

0:44

little bit of a bit but it

0:46

but it going throughout, so that's always

0:48

a positive. that's always a It started well

0:50

and kind of like just settled

0:52

into a into a steady formula one race,

0:54

but I don't mind that, I

0:56

quite enjoy it. I quite enjoy it. That's

0:59

okay. There's to keep you going

1:01

through the entire race. There

1:03

was there something something to just a

1:05

keep to an interesting interesting thing episodic

1:07

as a race. as

1:09

missing a bit of excitement at the

1:11

front in the the front in the closing stages. Yeah.

1:13

don't think that was ever gonna happen,

1:16

was it? to happen, was it? No. So yeah, well, I mean, we'll

1:18

mean, we'll talk about that in a

1:20

We've got the got of stuff to go

1:22

through. to mean, I mean, you want to

1:24

go through it in through of the general

1:26

order order that things finish championship wise? I I think

1:28

that's how you're how to structure

1:31

this more or less. We probably

1:33

should start with the should start with

1:35

the championship, which the first time since

1:37

for the first time since 98, a a record

1:39

in One for a gap between

1:41

constructors titles. had to wait. to wait.

1:43

I I mean their drivers literally weren't

1:45

born the last time they the last

1:47

time they of course. to yeah this

1:50

title. Yeah, yeah, yeah, unbelievable.

1:52

It was looking very good

1:54

until turn looking very good it

1:56

was and then suddenly it was

1:58

looking very concerning for the but

2:00

ultimately Norris winning the race

2:02

meant nothing Ferrari did could could stop them

2:04

stop them winning it it

2:06

it was pretty pretty assured to

2:08

flag victory from Norris Norris he'd

2:11

just never looked looked really did

2:13

he he was very solid

2:15

throughout the entire race good

2:17

start which is which is obviously

2:19

you know like he's had a had

2:21

a few where he's had had

2:24

one or two races where

2:26

he's he's looked really solid Zamfort think

2:28

I think the one Singapore as well. Singapore looks

2:30

odd, but I think this I think this look the total

2:32

look the total package I think in

2:34

this race likes the the flag done, good good

2:36

start fast all were yeah, weekend Yeah, I just, I

2:39

nailed it not I just I just hope

2:41

that it's not like a pressure thing

2:43

that's away from it my only the last couple of

2:45

I guess I take away from on, he's kind

2:47

of last couple of races without the

2:49

pressure on yeah, I know there of just and

2:51

kind of done his thing thing during I know

2:53

there was a whole yellow flag thing

2:56

during guitar and what have you bought. you know generally

2:58

speaking performance wise he's kind of done

3:00

what he needs to do done what he needs to

3:02

do but hopefully it's not just

3:04

because the pressure's gone on a the

3:06

pressure's gone on the and if it comes down to

3:08

it comes down to it. fighting Max

3:10

he is actually fighting for anyone

3:12

else for that matter for the

3:14

title next year. he's got. he's got any

3:16

to to see it bit. a bit. Yeah. Anyone else

3:18

else pick? Like who could he be fighting he

3:20

be fighting next season? He's

3:23

got about drivers to choose from,

3:25

think, from I mean, that's very much

3:27

the hope, isn't it? very much the

3:29

hope isn't it? Yeah obviously I just said

3:31

PhD of out of

3:33

contention to back him

3:35

up from back him up from

3:37

that contact with contact with the

3:40

stappen. On first glance I

3:42

thought that that seemed quite

3:44

a harsh penalty. I've watched more

3:46

I've watched it, the

3:48

more, actually. on. It It was never

3:50

on. dive bomb. was an absolute dive bomb,

3:52

I don't think that was ever on

3:55

that move. Whoever was making it, that

3:57

was never it, that was never going to work. I

4:00

think at first I did. Watching it

4:02

live and full speed, when you're obviously

4:04

trying to keep an eye on what's

4:07

going on everywhere. Admittedly I did sort

4:09

of think. Oh no, Piastri just shut

4:11

the door in there and it's ended

4:13

in tears like it because it did

4:16

look like that. There's plenty of space

4:18

there was plenty of space I think

4:20

on the outside. There was room but

4:22

it just understood into it. I think

4:24

I think the way the way look

4:27

the reason it looked the reason it

4:29

looked like that at first glance is

4:31

just because obviously Piastri has gone for

4:33

pretty much the normal racing line as

4:36

a name followed Lander so in my

4:38

head as I'm watching that in full

4:40

speed I'm thinking like he's chopped the

4:42

nose off here and he's gonna get

4:45

in trouble but then the more you

4:47

sort of saw it back through you

4:49

kind of see how it was either

4:51

gonna go down as a racing incident

4:54

or something max's way but yeah it's

4:56

almost made it but he didn't did

4:58

he so yeah no and you know

5:00

I think you've according to a dive

5:03

bomb is maybe a regging it slightly

5:05

like He did. It was what the

5:07

understeer wasn't it that anything he wanted

5:09

to be into him. What do dive

5:12

bombs lead to? Understeer. Well, yeah. It

5:14

was a dive bomb. I think the

5:16

fact that Max went and apologised after

5:18

the rice says, you know what you

5:20

need to know. It tells you that

5:23

he dive bomb him. And he had

5:25

to go with those eyes for it.

5:27

Maybe, I don't know, fight me in

5:29

the comments. Piastri then managed to pick

5:32

up his own 10-second penalty so ending

5:34

up the same distance away from Max

5:36

anyway for just sort of running into

5:38

the back of Collopin so just a

5:41

bit clumsy wasn't it really that one

5:43

it was yeah I don't know if

5:45

he was just not paying, you know,

5:47

looking at his steering wheel or whether

5:50

he just got caught out by the

5:52

slowing or whatever, but... Yeah, it, from

5:54

on board it looked at first, on

5:56

board I thought, oh did Colin to

5:59

move there, but actually I've watched it

6:01

back a few times and Colin to

6:03

didn't move. It was just moving himself

6:05

into position to potentially overtake the car

6:08

ahead of him, ahead of him. I

6:10

don't think Pierre he was maybe expecting

6:12

that he was... it was a little

6:14

bit late but I think Piastri is

6:17

moving as well so yeah I think

6:19

that it was just a bit of

6:21

a messy situation he's probably still had

6:23

a bit of red mist from being

6:25

turned around as well possibly yeah probably

6:28

not slight lapse of concentration and yeah

6:30

I think you know to be fair

6:32

like he caused a collision a collision

6:34

is a 10-second penalty and yeah they

6:37

stuck by the rulebook and they gave

6:39

him the correct penalty for the situation

6:41

so yeah got a police what's happening

6:43

in front in as long as you're

6:46

consistent with it and as long as

6:48

you're doing it then it's not a

6:50

problem and yeah I think that I

6:52

think you'd start again a lot more

6:55

issue if they'd have for example given

6:57

max penalty for that and not Piastri

6:59

one for the other or vice versa

7:01

but the fact that they've addressed them

7:04

both and dealt with them both is

7:06

you know I can't really come away

7:08

from that with any comps. Yeah at

7:10

least I just did easily knew where

7:13

we stood where we stood as well.

7:15

which is kind of what you want

7:17

rather than things hanging over the rest

7:19

of the race. Yeah. As he was,

7:21

Piastra managed to fight his way back

7:24

to 10th. It was a pretty good

7:26

recovery drive all things considered. He also

7:28

avoided being lapped by about six seconds,

7:30

which makes him only the fourth driver

7:33

ever to complete every single lap of

7:35

a formula one season. Crazy. Oh wow,

7:37

that's interesting, that's a good one. And

7:39

the only three to have done it

7:42

before was Schumacher Hamilton and Vistap and

7:44

all of which were in years I

7:46

won the championship. So that's pretty good

7:48

company, Piaestris Key. Yeah, very good. Speaking

7:51

of championships, I have some interesting statistics

7:53

for you, some points for you. I've

7:55

not seen anyone else work this out,

7:57

so this is all my math, and

8:00

it's probably incorrect, but quick notes. It's

8:02

worth a mention. So what I've done

8:04

is I've extrapolated the best performances from

8:06

the red, from each Red Bull car,

8:09

and from, sorry, the best performing car

8:11

from each team, so from Red Bull

8:13

and from McLaren. taking that in an

8:15

individual race scenario so like if is

8:18

that team's best result in the race

8:20

from each race yeah yeah that team's

8:22

best result from each race regardless of

8:24

driver so it gives I mean Rebel

8:26

was easy because only one race where

8:29

Biastri outscored, sorry where Cheko outscored the

8:31

Stappan and that was at Australia when

8:33

Checco finished the fifth and scored 10

8:35

points so you just had 10 points

8:38

to the Stappan's tally. And that brings

8:40

you to 447 points. Okay, the McLaren,

8:42

the fastest McLaren result added together across

8:44

the season brings you to 450. So

8:47

if the fastest McLaren had been the

8:49

same McLaren every single race, then they

8:51

would have won the sham, they would

8:53

have won the drivers by four points.

8:56

Hmm. which I think

8:58

is really one it shows you

9:00

what an amazing season for Stappan's

9:02

had yeah I think that's that's

9:04

the first point the second point

9:06

is it shows you how important

9:08

it is to beat your teammate

9:10

yeah and also what a disadvantage

9:12

it is having a teammate who

9:14

is as good as you or

9:16

almost as good yeah in a

9:18

championship battle as well as it's

9:20

really interesting. But my main takeaway

9:22

is just how good Vastapin has

9:24

had to be to win this

9:26

title. That's how close this title

9:28

would be. He's literally had to

9:30

do on his own, hasn't he?

9:32

Yeah, in a team that came

9:34

third in a constructors. I mean

9:36

arguably though you would say that

9:38

if Perez was performing better it

9:40

possibly wouldn't have been second in

9:42

the constructors but that's another it's

9:44

interesting though yeah we have to

9:46

praise McLaren as well for what

9:48

they've achieved this season especially when

9:50

you consider less than two years

9:52

ago they had a car that

9:54

could barely make a race distance

9:56

when it worked it was the

9:58

slowest on the grid. Yeah, I

10:00

mean there were five seconds off

10:02

all in 2021, 22. I saw

10:04

the beginning of last season. I

10:06

saw them post something that I

10:08

think is like a little bit

10:10

of one of those kind of

10:12

stretching of the truth kind of

10:15

stats where McCarran posted something saying

10:17

that they're the. I

10:19

don't know if it was

10:21

the first team ever or

10:23

the first team in a

10:25

long time, probably the first

10:28

team ever I think, to

10:30

have finished a season without

10:32

a single DNF, sorry, unclassified

10:34

DnF throughout the season and

10:37

that's why I think they may be

10:39

just not snap padding but like kind

10:41

of being favourable with how the big

10:44

because obviously by official rules of formula

10:46

one if you complete a certain percentage

10:48

of the race distance even if you

10:50

don't finish the race and already an

10:52

F you become classified. So I think

10:55

what they're trying to say is, we

10:57

didn't quite finish every single race, but

10:59

we're the first team that's ever done

11:01

enough percentage in every single race with

11:04

both cars to be at least classified

11:06

in every single race. Right, because Norris

11:08

retired in Austria, but it was classified.

11:10

Yeah, that's a stretch for a stat.

11:12

But I can see what they're doing.

11:15

I mean, to be the only team

11:17

that's done that still is probably, like,

11:19

especially in the longest season we've ever

11:21

had as well, to do, like, you

11:24

know, this is almost as long as

11:26

two seasons back in the day. So,

11:28

yeah. It's like, it's still an impressive

11:30

start. I just think it's funny the

11:32

way that they've tried to wear in

11:35

a particular way to make sure it

11:37

works. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of credit

11:39

rightfully has been going towards Andreas Stella

11:41

as well, who's had a huge impact

11:43

on that team. And obviously Zach Brown

11:46

has been instrumental in turning them around

11:48

as well. So yeah, I think well

11:50

deserved. Like it was exciting seeing Ferrari

11:52

getting very close. And I think if

11:55

Ferrari had found a way to snatch

11:57

it at the end, that would have

11:59

been extreme. but I think

12:01

over the season you've got to say

12:03

McLaren probably are the most deserving. I

12:06

mean they literally are. I don't know

12:08

points but they're definitely deserving of it.

12:10

I think what I think another interesting

12:13

example is a couple of years ago

12:15

I think less than two years ago

12:17

on this show we named one of

12:19

our episodes very concerned and had like

12:22

it was like about McLaren or something

12:24

like it was like about McLaren or

12:26

something like it was like about McLaren

12:29

or something like there's something like Maybe

12:31

it was an end of season review

12:33

or a start or a mid-season review,

12:35

something like that we said. I remember

12:38

at a point being like I'm very

12:40

concerned about McLaren and now we're here.

12:42

Look at them now. They're world constructors

12:45

champions. Yeah so very very impressive turnaround

12:47

in a very short space of time.

12:49

As we said Ferrari came close. Unfortunately

12:51

that grid penalty LeClur had to have

12:54

for a new battery kind of already

12:57

made things pretty hard and then

12:59

they sort of messed up qualifying

13:02

a bit. Well he had a

13:04

track limits didn't he? Which left

13:06

him basically at the back. He

13:09

had an insane first lap. It

13:11

was up to eighth I think

13:13

he was by the end of

13:16

the first lap. I think it

13:18

was 11th. It drove around. He

13:20

did eight places to really good

13:23

job. Yeah, super impressive drive from

13:25

him. Ended up on the podium.

13:27

Signed, gained second at the start,

13:29

and he stayed there the entire

13:32

race that he ends his Ferrari

13:34

career with the podium. I'd quite

13:36

like to have seen when they

13:39

had the gap over the rest

13:41

of the field at the end,

13:43

I'd quite like to have seen

13:46

Ferrari pit signs sticking on soft

13:48

for the last 10 or 15

13:50

laps just to give McLaren something

13:53

to worry about, see if you

13:55

could like, you know, put in

13:57

some qualifying laps and give more.

14:00

kind of seemed to give up on it with

14:02

about a third of the race to go but

14:04

it was always an outside shot anyway but I'd

14:07

quite like to have seen them do something just

14:09

to try and shake things up a bit but...

14:12

But yeah, not a bad way for

14:14

signs to sign off his Ferrari career.

14:16

Oh, definitely. And he's already in Williams.

14:19

Today, he's been out there testing the

14:21

Williams. In fact, he said after the

14:23

race, in the closing the lapse of

14:25

the race yesterday, he was already like

14:27

thinking about the Williams he's got to

14:30

go and drive and like, I need

14:32

to sort of mentally log the feeling

14:34

of what this car is like so

14:36

I can take that information. Yeah. I

14:39

think he's going to be really good

14:41

for Williams. They... What a signing for

14:43

that he's going to be. Yeah, he's

14:45

got a lot of really really good

14:47

for our knowledge that he's going to

14:50

bring to the party there just like

14:52

you know other drivers Just like Perez

14:54

has got a lot of red ball

14:56

knowledge that he'll take with him I

14:58

wouldn't be surprised if parents get stuck.

15:01

I mean we don't necessarily at the

15:03

time of recording It's still technically a

15:05

red ball driver, but I think it's

15:07

fair to say he's probably not going

15:10

to be by the end of this

15:12

week. So, you know, the things to

15:14

remember is he's got a lot of

15:16

rebel knowledge inside that brain of his,

15:18

I wouldn't be surprised seeing pop up

15:21

in maybe one of the new teams

15:23

at some point or maybe as a

15:25

driver or a test driver or maybe,

15:27

you know, Audi. Have Audi got both

15:29

their drivers yet or? Yeah, well, there's

15:32

still, I think there's still server next

15:34

year, aren't they, for one more year,

15:36

but it's Hulk and... Mortoleto, of course.

15:38

Oh, that was it, yeah, yeah. New

15:41

Epps, you know, still test driver rolls,

15:43

like teams don't necessarily, teams can sign

15:45

drivers and not necessarily give them the

15:47

drive, so yeah. Interesting to see where

15:49

he goes. Um, speaking of voice letter,

15:52

did either of you see the, any

15:54

of the formula too over the weekend?

15:56

Yeah, it was good. Yeah. It just

15:58

made me laugh. There was all this

16:00

buildup to like the championship contender, there's

16:03

half a point between them and it

16:05

got to the finale and one of

16:07

them stored on the grid and it

16:09

was all over. It was like such

16:12

an fancy climber. Well, by the time

16:14

it got... feature race it was about

16:16

six and a half five or six

16:18

and a half points I think yeah

16:20

but it was a stretch anyway yeah

16:23

yeah yeah very good though some really

16:25

good racing you have to um we'll

16:27

do Mercedes and I mean Hamilton's had

16:29

a rough last year and Mercedes and

16:31

then when he got to qualifying and

16:34

a bollard got punted underneath his car

16:36

it was like that just sucked up

16:38

a year he's had that was. It

16:40

wasn't just that though it was Miss

16:43

Hades sent both cars out too late

16:45

in that session. It was a massive

16:47

cock up you can hear him on

16:49

the radio after I've watched you know

16:51

I've been back and watched and yeah

16:54

they're on the radio after apologizing and

16:56

sort of trying to do the post-mortem.

16:58

Hamilton's still on his in-lap. Hamilton was

17:00

really really really cheesed off. and it

17:02

did that ballad he didn't look like

17:05

it from off board but on board

17:07

like he's got absolutely no he's got

17:09

no front end going into the final

17:11

corner it's well final two corners so

17:14

yeah it's just an unfortunate circumstance but

17:16

boy did it lead us to a

17:18

nice a nice race yeah man did

17:20

he make up for it and I

17:22

think he was the only one to

17:25

start on hard and took them like

17:27

super deep into the race it was

17:29

like lap where's he gone 34 lapsed

17:31

in on the hards. And he was

17:33

quick on them as well. He was

17:36

quick. The whole stick was very good

17:38

for that tire. After a year of

17:40

seeing Hamilton really struggle and not necessarily

17:42

doing the things we used to seeing

17:45

him do, that was a classic Hamilton

17:47

just over a race distance maximising what

17:49

he had got. Like it was a

17:51

really, really impressive drive from him. and

17:53

then culminating in that last lap chasing

17:56

down Russell and that will mighty pass

17:58

around the outside on the final lap

18:00

like yeah obviously Russell was never gonna

18:02

fight him that hard so. But I

18:04

don't think you could though. I think

18:07

it was already alongside him, he'd break

18:09

later. If you're on the outside, yes,

18:11

like there's a risk to go down

18:13

the outside and obviously if that's another

18:15

driver they might, you know, run you

18:18

off the road, not naming names, but

18:20

yeah, it was a it was a

18:22

banging move. Big old move, that was.

18:24

Rosberg's response to it when they shared

18:27

in it on Sky Sports Sports afterwards,

18:29

like, that shows you what a best

18:31

mate, for him to be like, massive

18:33

respect for a move like that is

18:35

it says something. It was a big

18:38

one. Interestingly, I didn't know it was

18:40

before the race, so across this season

18:42

Russell's finished ahead of Hamilton, so of

18:44

their three years of teammates they've been.

18:48

I think yeah, Russell's beaten Hamilton two

18:50

out of the three. However, if you

18:52

add up their points across their time

18:54

as teammates, going into this race, they

18:56

were equal on points, which is crazy.

18:58

So Hamilton actually, by that one position,

19:01

ends up scoring more points than Russell.

19:03

Yeah, it was, you know, it would

19:05

be nice to see him on the

19:07

podium, but it was a, it was

19:09

a good way for him to end

19:11

his, he's must say at his time,

19:13

it was a big old drive from

19:16

him. Yeah, and he still got to

19:18

hang out on the grid at the

19:20

end, form of the one doing their

19:22

best to make, to get extra people

19:24

on the, on the, on the, in

19:26

the sort of... highlight end of race

19:29

weird about that is the fact that

19:31

it's not like he's retiring he's just

19:33

moving I know yeah I found it

19:35

a bit weird as well but then

19:37

they do it a lot they're doing

19:39

it more and more like they did

19:41

it they've done it for a few

19:44

drivers it's been their home race a

19:46

couple of times I think they've done

19:48

it for there's been a few sort

19:50

of strange random circumstances that have that

19:52

they've done it under and it almost

19:54

seems like it's just so there's something

19:57

to post on social it's like it's

19:59

like oh with this this is a

20:01

big thing that's happening so we're going

20:03

to do it by the way we

20:05

want to. We're not gonna let the

20:07

team or the driver decide how they're

20:10

gonna have the end of their thing.

20:12

We're gonna, like literally on the pre-race

20:14

notes where they have the diagram of

20:16

like, you know, this is where the

20:18

top three will park. They'd got marked

20:20

out like, this is where Hamilton will

20:22

get to do some donuts and then

20:25

this is where he'd park up with

20:27

his special board. Like yeah, it was

20:29

that level of like pre-determination. Like I

20:31

say, it's not like his retiree is

20:33

just moving teams. A lot of other

20:35

drivers are doing that. And yes, it's

20:38

the end of the most successful driver

20:40

team pairing whatever. But like, how many

20:42

other drivers on this grid are probably

20:44

in their last race and they don't

20:46

get that level of... Yeah, I found

20:48

the whole thing quite weird to be

20:50

honest, but yeah, but there we go.

20:53

But all quite emotional the same and

20:55

it is weird seeing that pairing ending.

20:57

But I'm quite excited to see it

20:59

read. It's still going to be in

21:01

Formula One next year. So I'm going

21:03

to get it. I think fine if

21:06

you work at Mercedes, yeah, it's an

21:08

emotional thing. But if you're anyone else,

21:10

then it's just it's just a driver

21:12

going to another team and carrying on

21:14

his career. You know, like I don't

21:16

think it's like I don't think it

21:18

deserves the Maybe I'm wrong, maybe you

21:21

know, maybe I'm cynical, but I just

21:23

don't think it deserves like the level

21:25

of fanfare that maybe it's getting. If

21:27

you're a Hamilton fan, a Mercedes fan.

21:29

and you want to follow them putting

21:31

the fanfare around it fair enough but

21:34

for Formula One themselves to put that

21:36

almost front and centre when McLaren have

21:38

just won the first championship in 20

21:40

odd years like that felt yeah why

21:42

was it not why was it not

21:44

the McLarens that were there to celebrate

21:47

the constructive championship for example Yeah, it's

21:49

so I mean it's on the podium

21:51

anyway, but you know I mean like

21:53

but why they don't pull in Piastri

21:55

forward with London for example because I

21:57

tell you why because well I mean

21:59

Hamilton gets He does not have to

22:02

clicks. Yeah. So that's probably why. Did

22:04

they do something like this for Seb

22:06

when Seb left Red Bull? I feel

22:08

like they didn't, did they? That was

22:10

about to do his own little donuts.

22:12

Sang his little, oh no, did he

22:15

sing his little, he sang his little

22:17

song when he left for Ari, didn't

22:19

he? Yeah, when he retired, then they

22:21

gave, they let him go and do

22:23

donuts with like the winning drivers and

22:25

stuff. Yeah. But not when he left

22:27

Red Bull and not when he left

22:30

for Ari. And again, if the drivers

22:32

retire enough for a long career, we've

22:34

got a no problem with it. Yeah.

22:36

Anyway, we can, we can, we don't

22:38

need to dwell on that. Yeah, we've

22:40

already mentioned the term one thing, but

22:43

the snap and came back from that

22:45

penalty to finish 10th. pretty middling race

22:47

for Red Bull all in all. I

22:49

mean, that car wasn't, sorry, he didn't

22:51

finish 10th, did he finish? Seven? Six

22:53

or seventh? But yeah, it was a,

22:55

considering that's been quite a Red Bull

22:58

track in recent years, they very much

23:00

struggled there, but the Red Bull's not

23:02

been the close to the fastest car

23:04

in the drive for a while, so

23:06

that's not a huge surprise. Perez

23:09

I mean as we've said

23:11

he might be that might

23:13

be Perez's last race at

23:15

Redball he might be his

23:17

last race in F1 and

23:19

a pretty pretty sad way

23:21

for that to end pretty

23:23

blameless on Perez's part as

23:25

well he was just wrong

23:27

place wrong time wasn't he?

23:29

Yeah for all of the

23:33

the talk of red of Paris leaving

23:35

and we've done a lot of it

23:38

this year it is sad to see

23:40

it end that way for him like

23:42

yeah you like to see drivers make

23:44

it to the end of a race

23:47

if you think he might be that

23:49

last one yeah I mean but you

23:51

know I've been a bit of a

23:53

critic of Paris for a while now

23:56

I think I think if he does

23:58

go it's it's probably overdue I suppose

24:00

the argument is if he'd qualified better

24:02

be in a position to get caught

24:05

up in some middle of the pack

24:07

shenanigans. I think more interesting about this

24:09

is where it puts Red Bull in

24:11

terms of the championship so yes they'll

24:14

be disappointed not to have won the

24:16

Constructors Championship with the Drivers Championship as

24:18

they should be because they should if

24:20

they've got a driver who's winning the

24:22

world championship then they ought to be

24:25

winning the constructors. If they've got their

24:27

you know if they've got their driver

24:29

pairing organized which clearly they don't. It's

24:31

going to cost them a bunch less

24:34

money in terms of points paid for

24:36

this year. So you pay like a

24:38

fortune, you pay like I think six

24:40

or seven grand per point if you

24:43

win. I think it's eight and a

24:45

bit grand if per point if you

24:47

win the world championship, which means McLaren

24:49

have got a bill of something like...

24:52

I think it's just, it's about six

24:54

and a half million and last season,

24:56

Rebel had a bill, a whopping bill

24:58

of almost, I think it was nearly

25:01

7.2, 7.3 million, something like that, they

25:03

had to pay. And I think then

25:05

going down in the championship by that

25:07

many places has cost them some like

25:10

20 million. So, you know, like the

25:12

money you're losing from dropping down those

25:14

positions far outweighs the... the expense of

25:16

winning them. And when you've just forked

25:19

out seven and a half million the

25:21

season before and suddenly you're 20 million

25:23

worse off because you're not finishing as

25:25

well, I think that's quite a big

25:27

hit, especially when you're about to get

25:30

rid of a driver who's probably bringing

25:32

in a fair amount of sponsorship money

25:34

to, I mean let's not, let's be

25:36

honest, like Red Bull out short of

25:39

cash, are they, but especially in the

25:41

budget cap era or when they're making

25:43

more than they're spending a lot of

25:45

the time. it must have an effect

25:48

like that's a huge huge huge sum

25:50

of money like that must do something

25:52

to the team to you know to

25:54

restrict them in some way but they

25:57

will have on the contrary they will

25:59

have 10 about 10%ish more winter time

26:01

than they had before and CFD ones.

26:03

So going into 2026 that's going to

26:06

make a big difference. So maybe, you

26:08

know, they'll take the pain of not

26:10

necessarily winning the constructors this season for

26:12

that benefit of getting that extra wind

26:15

tunnel time. Yeah. The

26:17

other big championship fight was a

26:20

fight for sixth position with Alpine

26:22

has and as an outside bet

26:24

Arby Gazley pretty much put that

26:27

fight to bed on his own.

26:29

Another really good drive from Gazley.

26:31

that after like such a bad

26:34

season for alpien he's been in

26:36

the points four times in the

26:38

last five races one of which

26:41

was a podium finished sixth on

26:43

this occasion and quite comfortably gave

26:45

alp and that's sixth place in

26:48

the end which is worth a

26:50

good 20 million dollars more than

26:52

seventh place would have been I

26:55

think it is a big old

26:57

chunk for them Poor

27:00

old Jack Dewan had to make his

27:02

debut in pretty weird circumstances. He had

27:04

a tough weekend for him. It qualified

27:07

last. He finished last but one. I

27:09

mean, Kelsey Priest is his first race

27:11

weekend. Yeah, dropped in a car with

27:13

like what, five, six days notice before

27:16

practice. It's a car that's not got

27:18

all the upgrades that Gazley's car has

27:20

got. I think the fact that he

27:23

kept it clean and made it's the

27:25

end is about... all that he really

27:27

should have been aiming for. Yeah, look,

27:30

he's done. The only positive to come

27:32

out of that is he's done, and

27:34

it's probably the only positive that he

27:37

wanted out of it and they've achieved

27:39

it is that he's done 50 odd

27:41

laps in a former, well probably about

27:44

60 odd flat laps in a former

27:46

one car over the course of the

27:48

course of a race weekend. So, you

27:50

know, he's got that under his belt,

27:53

but It is a bit gross for

27:55

them to have not given, to have

27:57

been off-ock on the way they did

28:00

for this much race. oh come on,

28:02

give him his, you know, he's put,

28:04

he's still put his work into his

28:07

season, he ought to get given it.

28:09

It's like his one races for them

28:11

and stuff. Yeah, especially for them to

28:14

like, being, like kind of bad-mothed into

28:16

the press in the last week as

28:18

well, like, it's uncerebonious and inappropriate, I

28:21

think, I think it's really unfair. And

28:23

I'm also worried about doing as well

28:25

now, because like, There's been talk of

28:27

alpien sniffing around colopinto and like I

28:30

genuinely am not 100% convinced right now

28:32

that Dewin's even going to be in

28:34

the car come next year like that

28:37

team is just so bizarrely run. Colopinto

28:39

is a weird shout like I'd take

28:41

a chance on doing before colopinto. Especially

28:44

because he's been with the team for

28:46

so long, he's been so embedded in

28:48

it, he knows the team inside and

28:51

out, like he spent, he must be

28:53

hundreds of hours in the simulator by

28:55

now, like, he's done everything, you've announced

28:58

him, like, give the guy a chance,

29:00

don't just be sniffing around other drivers.

29:02

Classic Flav. Yeah, yeah, it really is.

29:04

Rattle through a few more, Holkenberg fourth

29:07

in qualifying, that was unbelievable. What a

29:09

result. Yeah. and then he managed to

29:11

mess it up by overtaking cars in

29:14

the pit lane which you're explicitly not

29:16

allowed to do and lost himself three

29:18

plus. Well this weekend this weekend you're

29:21

explicitly not allowed to do it compared

29:23

to other weekends when you are allowed

29:25

to but yeah this weekend because of

29:28

the tunnel the race director said no

29:30

pit exit. I was really annoyed at

29:32

that penalty I was like oh what

29:35

so I

29:37

mean they could have made it

29:39

no overtaken in the tunnel. I

29:41

don't know. I don't know where

29:43

he did his overtaking. I think

29:45

he was in the tunnel, he

29:47

did it. It's on him, I'm

29:49

afraid, yeah. It is on him,

29:51

but it's just again, it's like...

29:53

it's frustrating isn't it? It is

29:55

on him, it's on him. Yeah.

29:57

He had a good race, but

29:59

I'm... was ahead of him

30:02

the whole time and Gazley basically

30:04

covered everything has tried to do

30:06

so not a lot of past

30:08

could manage there but decent drive

30:10

decent drive yes it's a very

30:13

good drive and Audi have got

30:15

a peck of a signer with

30:17

Halkenberg as well he's been so

30:19

impressive this year yeah yeah yeah

30:22

he just he's like a fine

30:24

wine he really is Magnuson had

30:26

a... I mean Magnuson's race kind

30:28

of summed up his whole season

30:30

of him just being all over

30:33

the place at all times the

30:35

involving fights and collisions and everything

30:37

else. Ultimately that he was kind

30:39

of taken out by Botas which

30:41

put any chance and points out

30:44

for him. He did have that

30:46

fastest lap little cameo at the

30:48

end which was a... a nice

30:50

sign-off for him I suppose but

30:53

um yeah yeah messy way for

30:55

him to end his F-1 career

30:57

um Magnesine is off to WEC

30:59

next year driving for Persia I

31:01

believe. Oh La Voisotaribla It's

31:05

okay, I've stuck a wing on

31:08

the back of their car now

31:10

and it's better. No, it might,

31:12

it might, it might be a

31:14

bit better than. Yeah, and then

31:17

I'll be raised to forget, yeah,

31:19

Lawson came at the pits without

31:21

a wheel put on properly and

31:23

drove an entire lap with the

31:26

wheel not on properly. They do

31:28

not take kindly to sending cars

31:30

out with all the bits not

31:32

stuck on properly. So no, he

31:34

was in all sorts of fights.

31:37

I feel like I saw him

31:39

get overtaken at the chicane and

31:41

then re-overtaking to turn nine like

31:43

multiple times throughout the race. And

31:46

there was that really good team

31:48

radio and they were like told

31:50

him not to box and he

31:52

just went, why? Why? Yeah. So

31:55

good. But yeah. to them in

31:57

the end. In other news they're

31:59

changing their name again which we

32:01

joked about last week. So after

32:04

the beginning of last year that

32:06

said we're going to be called

32:08

racing balls and then the 11th

32:10

hour said oh no call us

32:13

RB or V-carb now they've changed

32:15

the mind and said they are

32:17

going to be racing balls again.

32:20

just a constant identity crisis. Yeah,

32:22

it's the same name. It's literally

32:24

the same name. Oh, we're changing

32:26

our name. It's the same name.

32:29

It's like that me, the office

32:31

meme. Yeah, the same names. It's

32:33

exactly what the Spider-Man memes are.

32:35

They're all just pointing. Yeah. Yeah.

32:37

It's all just a horror song.

32:39

So any break. It really is

32:41

just a name of companies who

32:43

fund them to exist. It's just

32:45

a minority guys. Be a form

32:47

of the one team. Be like,

32:49

have an eight. Don't just call

32:51

yourself red book, basically red book.

32:53

Don't be the red bull sister

32:55

team and call yourself red book.

32:57

It literally is just a name

32:59

of companies who fund them to

33:01

exist visa, cash app. Arby. So

33:03

it's the initials of Red Bull,

33:05

but we'll call it racing bulls

33:07

because no one will ever know.

33:09

Yeah, it'll be a different team.

33:11

And who knows is going to

33:13

be driving from their mixture as

33:15

well, but well, honestly, I really

33:17

don't like that team at the

33:19

moment. They've got great drivers. I

33:22

like their drivers. I love son

33:24

odour, but... Man,

33:26

just sort yourself out as a form

33:28

of urgency. They don't seem to know

33:30

what they are and why they exist

33:32

anymore. Yeah. Oh, but they're not even

33:34

using, they're not even a Red Bull

33:36

Junior team because none of the drivers

33:38

get to get a chance at all.

33:41

Yeah. Well, I suppose you'll find out.

33:43

they hire junior drivers like Daniel Ricardo

33:45

yeah they demote their they demote their

33:47

red ball drivers to the junior team

33:49

it's like surely the path is like

33:51

a one way if you're a junior

33:53

team into a formula one team that

33:56

the path shouldn't go back the other

33:58

way like it should be you haven't

34:00

made it at Formula One, go to

34:02

another Formula One team. Like

34:04

the junior team is for junior drivers.

34:07

I'm running now, let's move on. Right,

34:09

let me talk about Valtry-Bottas. Of course.

34:11

Oh God. Man he was good in

34:14

qualifying. That, in calling that car into

34:16

Q3, was super impressive. Not so good

34:18

in the race. Yeah, so he got

34:21

a 10 second penalty for that opening

34:23

lap collision with Perez. I think that

34:25

was harsh. Maybe I'm wearing my bottas

34:28

glasses here, but I think that was

34:30

a bit harsh. I'm not really sure

34:32

where else he could have gone. I

34:34

haven't watched any of the inputs from

34:37

that, so I can't say, but my

34:39

gut tells me that it seemed like

34:41

a bit of a hasty decision on

34:44

the steward's part. I feel like they

34:46

could have maybe given that a bit

34:48

more time before they came up with

34:51

their penalty. I mean, I could be

34:53

wrong and this could have just been

34:55

the way I was, I saw it

34:58

in the, I saw it in the,

35:00

highlights when I saw everything back and

35:02

the way that he's kind of got

35:05

cut together there, but it felt like

35:07

they made a decision on that before

35:09

they'd made a decision on Max with

35:12

Piastri and Piastri with... Wait, we're most

35:14

pressed with colopino, maybe that one makes

35:16

it. That was a few laps later.

35:18

I just feel like they made a

35:21

decision on that before they made decisions

35:23

on other things that happened. Seems very

35:25

fast for sure. I'm not sure, I

35:28

can't speak to that, I'm not sure,

35:30

I can't quite remember the exact, there

35:32

was a lot going on at that

35:35

moment, I can't remember exactly the order

35:37

that all came through, but, um, It

35:39

did seem, my gut tells me it

35:42

did, at the time I felt that

35:44

seems a little bit hard, I don't,

35:46

but then maybe it's just because it's

35:49

Perez and you expect, sort of. Because

35:51

Magnuson had shot up, you expect more

35:53

to be Perez's fault. Well Magnuson had

35:56

shot up the inside of both of

35:58

them. of barely on the track. It

36:00

was definitely much more circumstantial than the

36:02

turn one incident between Yeah, yeah for

36:05

sure Vstappan and Piastri I think that

36:07

one's that kind of clear it only

36:09

involved two cars It was it was

36:12

obviously never gonna that that move was

36:14

never gonna happen, but I think this

36:16

There was definitely a lot more going

36:19

on to it and it probably warranted

36:21

racing incident more than it did assigning

36:23

blame I would say but I haven't

36:26

watched the on boards for all the

36:28

or three drivers that are involved so

36:30

it's hard to commit to a conclusion

36:33

probably would tell you the most is

36:35

botuses but without it to hand I

36:37

couldn't tell you yeah and I don't

36:39

have time now to go and watch

36:42

it let's just crack on I'm not

36:44

for a second to ever going to

36:46

defend the second incident that Botas got

36:49

involved in. Are we just playing lost

36:51

concentration, brain fade outbraked himself didn't he?

36:53

Yeah that was that was really that

36:56

was among the worst things I've ever

36:58

seen Veltri Botas do in all the

37:00

years I've been a... That was as

37:03

bad as when he went bowling in

37:05

Hungary. We've all done it. We've all

37:07

done it, lads. We've all lost concentration

37:10

in the breaking zone when we've been

37:12

in the heat of a moment and

37:14

we know we've all done it. I've

37:17

done it in real life, I've done

37:19

it in a cart and that's not

37:21

good. A bit of a sad way

37:23

for Both has to go out in

37:26

his last race. I'm still not sure

37:28

we've seen the last of him necessarily

37:30

with sort of Cadillac coming in and

37:33

also with so many new drivers next

37:35

year like. not all of them are

37:37

going to swim. I think Botas might

37:40

be a prospect in a couple of

37:42

years. Yeah, and again, like, you know,

37:44

that that brain full of admittedly aging

37:47

Mercedes knowledge is worth a lot to

37:49

maybe a new team or to a

37:51

team lower down that's on its way

37:54

up. Yeah, so yeah, I think he'll

37:56

definitely be around. I don't necessarily think

37:58

he'll be a a soon, I

38:01

mean he might be, but I don't see

38:03

it right now. mean he might be, I but

38:05

I don't see it right now. from, I'd like to see

38:07

him like to see him and be I'd like

38:09

to see him in a better team and

38:11

be successful I think I do, you know, you know, I've

38:13

got a lot of time for time for I

38:15

mean, he I mean, he said himself hindsight,

38:18

going to that team at the

38:20

point he did at a mistake did was

38:22

a mistake. after Fred Visser to go to

38:24

Ferrari, he's basically just watched that

38:26

team decline around him, which is

38:28

around shame. is a think I think he definitely

38:31

had a lot more to give. give.

38:33

I mean, is it crazy to say that crazy to

38:35

say that to come back and come back

38:37

and win a championship, but I Botas

38:39

wouldn't be a bad guy to

38:41

stick in that that second seat? I don't that

38:43

idea. I don't think he's I

38:45

himself the best sales pitch this

38:48

weekend, but I... the best I mean,

38:50

he got this along in the race

38:52

but I... did, didn't he? he that

38:54

bad. along had the race because Botas took

38:56

Perez did, didn't he? So he can't of that.

38:58

bad. He had three... Yeah, only because

39:00

Botha took Paris, I would know

39:02

to be. Three doing exactly what

39:05

they'd Hall's a second I do. he's there.

39:07

Yeah. Last couple mop mop

39:09

up, Martin, I mean they're I

39:11

mean, at terrible at the moment. along, I may

39:13

to scrape a couple of points again.

39:15

of points again. A more interesting Aston Martin thing

39:17

I can tell you thing I can I

39:19

was driving on the motorway on Saturday

39:21

in on rain, a rain, a

39:23

overtook me. me. Oh really? Yeah!

39:26

Don't see many of many of

39:28

those. you're just chilling. Yeah, it was,

39:30

was it, and then I looked in my

39:32

it to see what then I looked in my mirror

39:34

to see what it was by which point

39:36

it had already passed me. And then

39:38

I look forward again to see

39:40

what is very the rear end of

39:42

a a because it looks like nothing

39:45

else. it looks the else. And the was kicking

39:47

up it was kicking a Formula like car. Wow,

39:49

one car. Wow, that's unbelievable, cool. so cool. That's

39:51

awesome. awesome. And And that's the

39:53

most interesting Aston Martin thing I

39:55

could tell you this weekend. could tell you this

39:57

weekend. And then finally no points for them. for

39:59

them. Pinto was there with a

40:02

power unit issue. Albon pretty decent

40:04

drive actually but still just outside

40:06

the points in 11th. Albon's had

40:08

a pretty rough running at the

40:10

end of the season but he

40:12

looked a bit more himself this

40:14

this race. I think that's everyone.

40:16

Well with all that said who

40:18

would you pick for your driver

40:20

of the day guys? It's

40:25

a tough one. I think it's I

40:27

think it's between LeClie and Hamilton for

40:29

me. I agree entirely. Yeah, I mean,

40:31

I was gonna basically go with LeClie

40:33

because it's kind of the same thing,

40:36

but just that tiny bit better, like

40:38

he was a bit further back and

40:40

finished a bit higher up as well.

40:42

So it's just like, yeah, well, he's

40:44

starting on the soft tire and that

40:46

helped him a lot in that opening.

40:48

sequence of madness that was going on.

40:50

So yeah, I think if Hamilton had

40:53

started on a similar tire, I don't

40:55

think it would have been much between.

40:57

I think they would have been battling

40:59

each other actually. I did read some

41:01

analysis today that said if Hamilton had

41:03

done the same tire strategy, he may

41:05

well have been in a closer fight

41:07

for a podium. but

41:10

yeah I think of the two I'm

41:12

from leaning towards LeCler I mean we've

41:14

we've given LeCler finished higher up yes

41:17

so from further back so that was

41:19

that was why I was singling him

41:21

out there were both very drives very

41:23

good drives but the reason I was

41:26

sort of singling out LeCler out of

41:28

the two is that he started further

41:30

back and finished ahead and in a

41:32

better car though in a better car

41:34

I was just about to admit it

41:37

is a better it is a better

41:39

car but you've seen

41:41

people in good cars not do

41:43

that well as well. Yeah, yeah.

41:45

Well, I mean, you know what?

41:47

I'm sure Hamilton's fine with that

41:50

knowing he's going to be in

41:52

that car. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

41:54

I think let's, I mean, you

41:56

guys have already picked LaClitter, so

41:58

it's LaClitter, but I think, uh,

42:00

there is. I think honourable, well,

42:02

we've mentioned it in honorable mention

42:04

yeah close second yeah cool okay

42:06

in move of the day we

42:08

have actually got quite a few

42:11

which I didn't necessarily always expect

42:13

going into Abu Dhabi yeah I

42:15

mean sticking with the Lecla story

42:17

that we're on at the minute

42:19

like I guess his entire first

42:21

lap has probably got to be

42:23

up there like the number place

42:25

we've got like I think we

42:27

said it was eight overall roughly

42:30

the envoy's just mental it's like

42:32

you've got to turn the difficulty

42:34

up man like yeah Um, you've

42:36

got, Piastro, when he was, I

42:38

want to say he was following

42:40

one of the Williams, I can't

42:42

remember which one. Oh, no, it

42:44

was... Oh, no, it was... It's

42:46

a huge snap. Sinoda, who's behind.

42:48

Is it, Sinoda, sorry? Yeah. Yeah,

42:51

it got an absolutely huge snap,

42:53

and somehow nice to keep hold.

42:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I enjoyed

42:57

that just after that and McLaren

42:59

got on the radio and were

43:01

like, no risks please, we really

43:03

could do without a safety car

43:05

right now. Yeah, and then again

43:07

staying with Piastra this time, you've

43:09

got his move on son order

43:12

at turn nine. and stay with

43:14

10-9 you also got Hamilton on

43:16

Russell at 10-9 which is that's

43:18

the one that's the one at

43:20

the end of the race I

43:22

think again it's it's your boilerplate

43:24

for for just lap one in

43:26

general but I think honourable mention

43:28

for Hamilton around the outside of

43:30

Russell at the end. I'm torn

43:33

between lap one and the last

43:35

lap. Yeah, yeah, the timing of

43:37

both is like really, really hectic,

43:39

isn't it? So yeah, equally impressive.

43:41

But I think you can't be,

43:43

I don't know if you can

43:45

be look close, I think the

43:47

number of cards you got around

43:49

and the way you set himself

43:52

up to have the race he

43:54

had by, you know, a lot

43:56

of it is with that stuff

43:58

like you can't really plan for

44:00

that it's just how the race

44:02

unfold it was like when the

44:04

stopping was going around other cars

44:06

in Brazil like you can't really

44:08

plan for that it's just but

44:10

then you at the same time

44:13

it's racecraft it's down to how

44:15

good the driver is in that

44:17

moment and you've got to be

44:19

you know you've got to be

44:21

good in that moment to make

44:23

that happen I'm not it's a

44:25

weird thing to say but sometimes

44:27

having a car that is more

44:29

superior to those around you is

44:31

not always the best benefit in

44:34

those scenarios because your closing on

44:36

people were fighting each other and

44:38

you're not looking out just a

44:40

yeah you're you're a missile coming

44:42

around the outside of them I

44:44

think the piaistry colopinto crash had

44:46

an element of that too actually

44:48

yeah yeah yeah But yeah, like,

44:50

Ferrari shouldn't really have even been

44:53

close to being in the constructors

44:55

fight at all, and that first

44:57

lap gave them an outside shot,

44:59

so yeah, I can go with

45:01

that, for sure. Yeah, cool. Last

45:03

one? Honestly, what the heck are

45:05

we doing here? Hmm. That's

45:08

actually quite tricky this weekend. Nothing

45:10

really weird seemed to have. I

45:12

mean, the weirdest thing that we've

45:14

all had a bit of a

45:16

weird, moany rant about is putting

45:18

Hamilton on the start finish straight

45:20

with the podium. Yeah, that is

45:22

the weirdest one, I can think

45:24

of. I did notice one, which

45:26

was just like, they did a

45:28

McLaren Constructors Champions graphic. Yes! and

45:30

it just broke it did work

45:32

jumping around all over the shop

45:34

it's like pinnacle of motorsport right

45:36

there that made me laugh a

45:38

lot yeah it was so jank

45:41

wasn't it they should have why

45:43

didn't they pre-render that like it

45:45

was you don't need to run

45:47

that in the live system pre-render

45:49

it yeah so weird it's like

45:51

the defining moment of the last

45:53

race of the season it's the

45:55

thing that like obviously you know

45:57

drivers fans that the drivers championships

45:59

are defined later the season but

46:01

when you know when that's happened

46:03

then this becomes the final divine

46:05

it defined the final big moment

46:07

of the season and for the

46:09

for the system to fail get

46:11

a better graphics card man or

46:13

whatever it is like your formula

46:15

one like your graphics should not

46:17

be breaking during the live broadcast

46:20

but as we know it happens

46:22

to the formula all the time

46:24

on a broadcast kind of no

46:26

there was one thing that frustrated

46:28

me a little bit which was

46:30

when Hamilton was ultimately closing in

46:32

on that move on Russell. they

46:34

weren't showing it like they showed it

46:37

for a while and then they went

46:39

back to i think oh they have

46:41

to show the car going over the

46:43

line yeah i'm sure it was for

46:45

stepping like it just it went to

46:47

pep it's just i don't know what

46:49

i don't know why the rule sort

46:51

of exists the way it does for

46:54

that in broadcast but it's just when

46:56

you respect her and you're watching a

46:58

fight on fall and the nurse go

47:00

up but now we're gonna go just

47:02

watch this guy drive across the line

47:04

with no competition around him it's so

47:06

frustrating but i think i think in

47:08

terms of i don't know i kind

47:11

of i can't that i can understand

47:13

not to sort of like fight you

47:15

too hard in time because i liked

47:17

you know i was a bit i

47:19

was a bit disappointed with not being

47:21

not it's always frustrating when they cut

47:23

away from action to to show something

47:25

not necessarily very action packed but I

47:28

think for the narrative of the weekend

47:30

and for the narrative of the race

47:32

you do have to get that shot

47:34

of the car going across the line

47:36

and winning the race and seeing the

47:38

checkered flag because that is like the

47:40

that's the that's the end moment. I

47:42

feel like they could have had both

47:44

they could have had their cake and

47:47

eaten it so to speak because it

47:49

was building up with Hamilton and Russell

47:51

they cut to they cut to Norris

47:53

and then they just stayed with that

47:55

because we went picture in picture with

47:57

Norris and Russell and they were only

47:59

at like turn four or something like

48:01

that like they could have they could

48:04

have easily shown what was happening with

48:06

them better. not even missed the finishing

48:08

thing. What you're saying is the technology

48:10

exists to show it by 100% and

48:12

unfortunately they didn't make full use of

48:14

that technology. Yeah maybe not the UTF

48:16

where they just ran from me of

48:18

what I go towards the end. Now

48:21

I think WTOF is definitely broken graphics

48:23

at the end. Start to start the

48:25

season as you start every season with

48:27

a broken graphic. Yeah, one of the

48:29

weird thing this feels like a good

48:31

point to mention as well, that we're

48:33

doing more filming for the F1 movie.

48:35

And after they were done with the

48:38

podium ceremony, they got Russell and Sines

48:40

to go up to the podium to

48:42

go and film the podium scene with

48:44

Brad Pitt and they had like the

48:46

cameras up there with them like spraying

48:48

champagne with Brad Pitt for a scene

48:50

for the movie. Which is really weird

48:52

to watch. I like that

48:55

though, I like that a lot

48:57

of this stuff they're shooting like,

48:59

I'm really, the only problem is,

49:01

we've seen so much of them

49:04

filming at the events now. If

49:06

you've paid attention, you know what

49:08

the plot of that film is

49:10

going to be. Like, like, they,

49:12

there was footage of, they were,

49:15

they were filming a big dramatic

49:17

crash on Vegas. Well, whoa, whoa,

49:19

whoa, whoa, whoa, no, no, no,

49:21

no, don't spoil it for you.

49:24

Don't spoil us, don't, well, just

49:26

for me, for people listening, you

49:28

don't want to, you know, it

49:30

might be people who are waiting

49:33

for it, so let's not, okay.

49:35

Yeah. Move on, do press that.

49:37

I'll do predictions. I'll do predictions.

49:39

So you had an all right

49:42

weekend there, Chris. You got the

49:44

double noise. And two, you've got

49:46

a point for Norris as well.

49:48

We almost got a five out

49:50

of five to see the season

49:53

out, but Lisa Herzig, Herzig, was

49:55

literally one thing away with Lawson's

49:57

position, had 13th, and obviously was

49:59

17th, but got everything else right.

50:02

So, well done on a four.

50:04

at least uh... in terms of

50:06

how they sleep the championship golden

50:08

bar and does finish the season

50:11

as champion for predictions with 41

50:13

points overall. So well done Gordon.

50:15

Was very close but and very

50:17

eventually ended up the season with

50:19

a good few points gap so

50:22

I had a good running. Over

50:24

in the Fantasy League Alpha Rosso

50:26

Menadi which is a good name

50:28

for a team if I ever

50:31

heard one. Probably a better name

50:33

than what they've actually got. Probably

50:35

a good name for a team

50:37

and 297 points to win this

50:40

week. But nobody could catch Ricky

50:42

Bobby racing. Took the lead very

50:44

early in this season and just

50:46

kind of managed to maintain the

50:49

gap. 5,422 points to win it

50:51

for Ricky Bobby. And then over

50:53

on grid rival Laura Lolo won

50:55

overall this week with 1,099 points,

50:57

which took Laura to 23,285 points

51:00

total. but it

51:02

wasn't quite enough. Mighty Hawk was

51:04

82 ahead in the end, which

51:06

for a... Oh no, sorry, a

51:09

hundred and eighty two ahead in

51:11

the end. But for a... For

51:13

a championship where most people that

51:16

have a good week are scoring

51:18

a thousand or more points, I

51:20

think for Laura to have closed

51:23

that gap down as much as

51:25

she did with Mighty Hope, we've

51:27

run away with it, is worth

51:30

a mention. But also, obviously, congrats

51:32

to Mighty Hope 44 finishing the

51:34

season on 23,467 points. Overall, if

51:37

you want to see where you

51:39

finished in the Predictions in the

51:41

Preds league, or grid rival, head

51:44

to back to the grid.com and

51:46

everything's on there. Oh, very, very,

51:48

very quick note. I did make

51:51

a correction to last week's qualifying

51:53

result because I stupidly put them

51:55

in whilst half asleep and did

51:58

actual pull position for points. of

52:01

fastest in Q3 which broke

52:03

our own rules I think

52:05

I don't if anyone pointed

52:07

out and asked but I

52:09

fixed it so anyone who

52:11

might may feel they had

52:13

wrong points last week were

52:15

fixed in advance of this

52:17

week just so you know

52:19

and then yeah let's see

52:21

yourselves out with the last

52:23

bit of inbox for this

52:25

season It's

52:28

the loudest that jingle has ever been. Jesus. Just one

52:30

question this week from Charlotte Taylor who says with Botas

52:33

getting a five-placed grid penalty, do you think that could

52:35

affect teams' decisions to take him on as a reserve

52:37

driver? He needs to replace drive for the race that

52:39

will already put him on the back foot. Cuz yes,

52:42

much like Jensen Button, he will leave F1 with a

52:44

grid penalty hanging over. Yeah, I don't think that's... I

52:46

don't think it's that being of a deal, to be

52:48

honest. I think if you... He brings so much more

52:50

to the table than just a five-placed grip at what's

52:53

he if they do need to use him. So, um...

52:55

I don't, you know, it seasons along. No, they don't.

52:57

So like, if you intend... For argument, actually, they're hereditary.

52:59

They pass down to your children. It's like a timeshare.

53:01

For argument sake, if Botas didn't get in a seat

53:04

but in for some reason 10 years time you make

53:06

some wild comeback because some finish company entering F1 team

53:08

and they're like, we want finished drivers, Botas is in.

53:10

Does he have a five place grid penalty in ten

53:13

years? Yeah, I believe so, yeah. If he's not served

53:15

it, then yeah. The last... Yeah, Jensen buttons still got

53:17

a five place or like a student loan, they die

53:19

with you. Follow you wherever you go. Yeah, I think

53:21

if you're... Yeah, but if you're a team in a

53:24

position where you're having to bring in a reserve driver,

53:26

a grid penalty is the least you always at that

53:28

point, so I don't think it's going to hurt him

53:30

all that much. True. and that is it. That's the

53:33

season at at least. to everyone who's followed

53:35

us everyone this followed us through

53:37

this season, it's been really

53:39

good. We've obviously done a

53:41

lot more you've noticed as you've

53:44

noticed this year. So thanks

53:46

to everyone kind of of that

53:48

that from the from the very

53:50

little that we we started

53:53

doing it properly this season. season.

53:55

Please remember to do do your

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sharing, subscribing, all that stuff

53:59

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54:12

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54:15

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54:17

free to head social media but do

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54:21

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touch there is a contact us you way.

54:26

in such through old school emails that that

54:28

is it. I think I some

54:30

point between now and the

54:32

end of the year of

54:35

be doing we will be doing our classic... end

54:37

of year review but we've not

54:39

even set a a scale

54:41

on that for ourselves. So I'm

54:44

not going to make any

54:46

promises to exactly when that'll

54:48

be, but it is something

54:50

we'll do. be but it is until

54:52

then, we'll do and so see you

54:55

then I guess. goodbye and see you

54:57

then I guess bye bye guys

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