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We ate your ass You were

1:00

nothing but a slow slow roasted

1:02

spot stew for me pot roast

1:04

for me Welcome

1:11

to the Bureau of Citizen Detectives, the officially

1:13

unofficial podcast for Yellow Jackets on Showtime.

1:15

I'm Jim. I'm Aeron. And

1:18

today we're back for one wrap -up

1:20

episode for season three here. We've

1:24

seen it all. We've

1:26

heard it all from the listeners

1:28

this week. And we're here

1:30

to talk about it all, I guess. What

1:33

do you think? After

1:35

thinking about the season more, after sitting

1:37

with it for a week, are you Pleased

1:40

or you displeased? What's your status? I

1:44

feel like my opinion hasn't

1:46

much changed on the show. I

1:49

think it's fun and entertaining. OK,

1:51

so here's the thing. As

1:54

of now, it seems like there are two

1:56

worlds that you can choose to live

1:58

in. In one world,

2:00

the show runners all know what's going

2:02

on. It was Mari, the pit

2:05

girl from the start. These

2:07

young women are having a

2:09

magical experience on location, filming

2:11

and learning things

2:13

about themselves. And

2:16

the showrunners are confident that they'll

2:18

get a fourth season, maybe even

2:20

five like they really wanted to.

2:23

And due to showtimes

2:25

embraced by the

2:27

Paramount Network and other

2:29

global outlets, the

2:32

audience is bigger than ever. The

2:36

other world you can live in

2:38

is looking at the Nielsen statistics

2:40

for US only, which is what

2:42

we've been comparing when you're looking

2:44

at audience statistics year to year

2:46

to year and see that the

2:48

numbers are actually pretty far down.

2:51

I'm looking at the the most

2:53

recent date I've got is for

2:55

season three, episode seven was watched

2:57

by 0 .068 million viewers and

2:59

earned a 0 .005 rating in that

3:01

18 to 49 demographic, which means

3:03

that 0 .005 percent of

3:05

all households with a television

3:07

in the US watched this

3:09

episode. I look

3:11

at interviews from adult actors, Melanie

3:13

Linsky and Lauren Ambrose. And

3:16

I see that they are all

3:18

saying that, you know, that

3:20

they were satisfied that they had

3:22

a nice character arc, but

3:24

something has changed in the last

3:26

few years. And they don't

3:28

know what's going on anymore. And

3:30

they don't think the writers know what's going

3:32

on anymore. And they're honked off about the way

3:34

they're being written out of the show, even

3:36

though they just got introduced last season. Now they're

3:38

being written out this season. And.

3:44

You know, again, looking at

3:46

traditional Nielsen ratings where they're

3:48

and also the fact that. That

3:51

that it seems like showtime. I

3:53

know that Joanna Robinson said this on

3:56

her podcast with the House of R.

3:58

But she thinks she's of the opinion

4:00

because she's she's connected. She'd probably know

4:02

that showtime is probably going to give

4:04

them a fourth season. But they're trying

4:06

to like aggressively negotiate it to be

4:08

the final season because they know they

4:10

see which way the show is going.

4:13

Most shows are not going to

4:15

gain a whole bunch of viewers. So.

4:17

You know, and I think

4:19

there's some truth to that.

4:22

I actually think that the

4:24

teenage outline might have actually

4:26

been really well realized and

4:28

entirely intact. But because

4:30

the adult timeline is getting a little

4:32

wonkier and because they had a couple

4:34

of, you know, like Lewis departed,

4:36

they're having to kind of scramble on that.

4:38

And now that's having knock on effects the

4:40

other. And it doesn't say I can't find

4:42

a single quote from an adult actor. Uh,

4:46

that seems like they are having a

4:48

good time or think that this is

4:50

a good story that they're being a

4:52

part of. So. You

4:54

know, and it's just which one

4:56

do you think is more likely to

4:58

be true? Which aspect of the

5:00

show do you enjoy more that you

5:02

want to, you know, get fulfillment

5:04

out of? But

5:06

but yeah, I kind of think

5:09

that the truth is more. I

5:11

think they're doing a really good job on the

5:14

teen. storyline and they probably had

5:16

all those things point out. But the

5:18

adult storyline is kind of a mess. And

5:20

even the stuff I thought was going

5:22

to be interesting this season, like, you know,

5:24

Shawna having a murder family is now

5:26

going to be like, well, just Shawna is

5:28

the big evil and we got to

5:30

save Cali from her. And it also like

5:33

read the other thing is reading the

5:35

in the interviews, like the Hollywood Reporter interview

5:37

with all three showrunners. I don't think

5:39

there's wilderness stuff is anything. It

5:41

seems like they are very. From

5:44

the beginning like this is all

5:46

trauma and people forgetting things and

5:48

unreliable narrators and there's some really

5:50

interesting things are doing with the

5:52

young girl that the young woman

5:54

plot line. In

5:56

terms of like having

5:58

Shawna. You know, even

6:00

as I was reading some takes on like if you

6:02

look at the pit girl scene. From

6:05

season one, it's like, oh my God,

6:07

look how far these feral girls

6:09

have fallen that there's, you know, one

6:11

person's looking at this corpse and

6:13

just coldly turns their back on it

6:15

and misty smiling because she can't

6:17

wait to get that hot meat and

6:19

cider and all. And then, you

6:21

know, when you finally see it, you

6:23

see it and you realize that

6:25

really only. like Shauna and Ty

6:27

and Lottie have any agency and are

6:29

only the ones kind of like calling

6:31

the shots and having fun. All the

6:33

other girls are growing miserable. And

6:36

they've all conspired with rare exception to

6:38

undermine Shauna and the ruling regime at

6:40

the end of it. And Van wasn't

6:42

cold and callous. She was shocked and

6:44

numb because she couldn't believe another one

6:46

of them had died and Misty wasn't

6:48

smiling because, oh, good, I get to

6:50

eat another teammate. It's because, haha, we

6:52

fucked you over, Shauna. I

6:54

think that stuff is pretty clever and whether they plan

6:56

it from the beginning or not, it has come

6:58

together really well. But

7:00

the adult stuff

7:02

just seems like. And

7:05

like, you know, like the one of the

7:07

Hollywood reporter interview asked him, it's like, OK, so

7:09

what's what's what's going to go on for

7:11

for van? You know, because that plot

7:13

line is like promising that she'll have more to

7:15

come or there's there's going to be another,

7:17

you know, shoe to drop or something. They're like,

7:19

oh, well, that's just an illusion to the

7:22

great beyond, which. OK,

7:24

fair. That might

7:26

be that might be true. But it's also you.

7:28

I don't think that's an honest framing. Like

7:30

when you have a character saying, oh, I can't

7:32

tell you what's going to that, that would

7:34

be telling. And like you're teasing that there's a

7:36

lot more to come. That's not just an

7:39

illusion of like, oh, we're all going to die.

7:41

But also they could be bullshitting, you know,

7:43

because I, you know, show runners and writers have

7:45

no. They had they don't

7:47

swear to tell the truth the

7:49

whole truth and nothing but the

7:51

truth when they sit down with

7:53

these interviewers So it's yeah, it's

7:55

again. It's a choose your own

7:57

choose your own adventure which Which

7:59

side of the looking glass do

8:01

you want to be on do

8:03

you want to be a half

8:05

glass half full half a glass

8:07

half empty which is closer to

8:09

reality I report you guys decide

8:11

Well, I've decided that I agree

8:13

with the the basic fact that

8:16

yes the teen timeline is Way

8:18

better told than the adult timeline

8:20

has it shit together way more

8:22

Feels like that's the thing that

8:24

they were really interested in in

8:26

crafting over the course these three

8:28

seasons and the adult timeline You

8:30

know say what you want about

8:32

you Julia Lewis wanting out of

8:34

the show and getting written out

8:36

of the show They still have

8:38

a lot of time after they

8:40

know that she's gone to write

8:42

a coherent adult timeline Uh and

8:44

and get some decent plot in

8:46

there. It's not like it can't

8:48

be done Oh, no, we lose

8:50

an actor. Can't we there goes

8:52

our show? No, you could

8:54

still write yourself out of

8:56

that pretty easily And they they

8:58

tried to and I I

9:00

was not excited by what they

9:02

came up with We'll just

9:04

say that the teen timeline has

9:06

always been good has always been

9:08

strong Yeah, yeah, so Don't

9:10

know if they're gonna get another

9:13

season or not like that's not

9:15

up to me, but I do

9:17

feel like if they're gonna

9:19

get another maybe it should be

9:21

the last because Unless they can

9:23

really just write the ship in

9:25

season four and have like

9:27

a solid idea of what to

9:29

do with these adults for the

9:31

next two seasons like that's the

9:34

challenge here right come up

9:36

with an idea that can be

9:38

Assuming assuming they can like What

9:40

Showtime needs to do is say, hey, this

9:42

is your last season or hey, season five

9:44

is your last season. Because

9:47

they can't write to an end

9:49

that they don't know, you know?

9:52

Yeah, I agree. don't know if they have

9:54

two or one seasons left, they're not to

9:56

be able to write to an end. No,

9:58

I get it. But I mean, like, I think

10:00

they should have a shape of the story of like,

10:02

without constraints, what would it look like? And I

10:04

kind of don't think they do. And also. Since

10:08

the the teenage plot is the strongest part

10:10

of the show and I think almost everyone

10:12

agrees with that. Yeah.

10:15

How much is that story left to

10:17

tell? Can you really get two full

10:19

seasons out of their being rescued? Like

10:21

they made contact. Rescue is imminent. Unless

10:24

you find a way to reset

10:26

the treadmill somehow and have like, you

10:28

know, another half a year of

10:30

adventures in the wilderness or whatnot. But.

10:32

You know, we've already got Pit

10:34

Girl. I'd like it's it's done like

10:37

the the the the fascination remains

10:39

them coming back, getting their stories straight.

10:41

How are they going to get

10:43

rid of Hannah? You know,

10:45

what is the thing that they did when they got

10:47

back? But there's like, is that two full seasons of plot?

10:50

So it seems to me like if they

10:52

knew if if if they wanted to have

10:54

a shot at going out with a tight

10:56

show, they should take the the the offer

10:58

next season. And I also stand by the

11:00

fact that if there wasn't a fourth season. I

11:03

feel like this is a pretty good

11:05

stopping point. It's not a fully satisfying stopping

11:07

point, but you can kind of see

11:09

the shape of where things are going and

11:11

then choose your own again, choose your

11:14

own adventure. Do you think Shana is going

11:16

to be defeated by the other yellow

11:18

jackets? Do you think the Cali is going

11:20

to escape her mom's influence? Do you

11:22

think that? You know,

11:24

the is the wilderness real like

11:26

that? Yeah, I think that one more

11:28

season. Would be

11:30

good, but also. I wouldn't

11:32

be I wouldn't be I'm not nearly as

11:35

outraged if this is all we got

11:37

as I was for like, you know, how

11:39

things ended with Penny Dreadful, how

11:41

things ended with like Banshee.

11:44

I've had better better shows have dumber

11:46

endings because they get the plug pulled

11:48

or they're forced to, you know, accelerate

11:50

something that they didn't really want to

11:52

do. So it would be a blessing

11:54

in disguise if they go out because

11:57

because I did think the the last

11:59

few episodes were very entertaining. Like

12:01

if they were just like a

12:03

haymaker after haymaker and they're funny

12:05

and they were exciting and they're

12:07

extremely well shot and the sound

12:09

design was amazing like They really

12:11

you know went for broke on

12:13

the execution Yeah, yeah the technical

12:16

execution. I think on a lot

12:18

of this stuff has been very

12:20

good It's just mapping the plot

12:22

out has been a little difficult

12:24

at times But

12:28

that's about all I have to say

12:30

about season three as a wrap -up. So

12:32

yeah in summary it's like I you know

12:34

I don't know if this is our

12:37

if this is where we end with yellow

12:39

jackets it's gonna depend on you know

12:41

the trailer when it comes back in a

12:43

schedule etc etc But

12:45

I do know that this is

12:47

not the end of what Bald Move

12:50

is doing this year even. We

12:52

just started up The Last of Us,

12:54

which I think has a lot

12:56

of features that Yellow Jackets fans would

12:58

like. Really talented, young,

13:00

teen -adjacent cast. Because none of

13:02

these women are teenagers, right? They're

13:04

all in their 20s. So

13:06

I think it didn't. So didn't

13:08

Sophie, did Sophie that plays

13:10

Melanie Linsky's character? Didn't she just

13:12

like turn 30 this year? I

13:14

think I think I saw that.

13:16

No, she might have. But

13:19

yeah, it's got a lot of

13:21

it's got a lot of great stuff.

13:23

It's got a creepy, horrific atmosphere,

13:25

just amazing writing and acting. Then

13:27

also for genre fans, not that the

13:29

Last of Us isn't a genre show,

13:32

but indoor is coming back. And if you

13:34

didn't know it, indoor is the only

13:36

reason Star Wars has been worth watching for

13:38

nigh on 30 years. It's

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13:43

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the keys to the kingdom to a

13:47

person that doesn't even really like Star

13:49

Wars, but can tell a tight, tight

13:51

thriller tale. And boy, is he

13:53

ever in the galaxy far, far away. Our

13:55

endorse coverage is starting. Well, it's going on right

13:57

now if you want to catch up a

13:59

season one, but it starts in earnest next week

14:01

with season two. And

14:04

yeah, we also

14:06

got speaking of

14:08

kind of supernatural

14:10

horror. urban

14:13

fantasy, we've got sinners coming out

14:15

this week. Kugler

14:17

and Michael B. Jordan getting back

14:19

together to do some kind of scary

14:21

tale that's going on in the

14:24

South, Southern Fried Horror, all

14:26

that and more. And you can follow all

14:28

of our genre stuff on Bald Move Pulp

14:30

and you can get all of our prestigey

14:32

stuff on Bald Move Prestige. We

14:34

do have a lot of feedback that

14:37

we can get to. Yeah, I saw

14:39

that coming coming through the. the

14:41

wilderness hotline it was rolling

14:43

in. It sounds like screaming frog

14:45

fucking when they're just pouring

14:47

off the the the wilderness like

14:49

that but uh yeah once

14:51

every once every seven seasons you

14:53

get you get you get

14:55

an email torrent like this let's

14:57

let's let's let's uh let's

14:59

examine a gem. All

15:01

right we're gonna start off with

15:04

something light here uh yonic in

15:06

Denmark says this episode put the

15:08

last piece of the puzzle in

15:10

place for me. It's not

15:12

chocolate donut around Darktie's mouth. It's

15:14

clearly the rich color of

15:16

heirloom cacao bars. Impossible to resist. Of

15:20

course. How could anyone? Right.

15:24

I certainly couldn't. All

15:26

right. With that out of the

15:28

way, let's get into a couple

15:30

of corrections from the previous episode

15:32

so we can leave this with

15:34

all our slates cleared. Nothing

15:36

here here. I don't like leaving a

15:38

show with red in its ledger, you

15:41

know, we gotta get that. Yeah Wade

15:43

says I don't know if anyone's already

15:45

pointed this out But there's a very

15:47

quick shot when Lottie tells Cali that

15:49

she's the new wilderness baby or whatever

15:51

that she's talking about The shows how

15:53

this happened the the when Lottie grabs

15:55

Cali's hand on the stairs Cali jerks

15:58

her hand away and there's a split

16:00

second shot where you see her nails

16:02

scrape Cali's hand or forearm So

16:05

that's how the DNA got

16:07

under there Hmm I Missed

16:09

that shot apparently it splits

16:12

happens before the show if

16:14

it happens before the show

16:16

if it happens earlier in

16:18

the scene Yeah, apparently she

16:20

likes to grab her makes

16:22

sense. Yeah Because I thought

16:25

I watched out a bunch

16:27

of times I didn't see

16:29

that contact, but I'm not

16:31

fighting you I

16:33

buy it Danielle has another correction

16:35

here in the latest episode you guys

16:37

mentioned Mari not appearing until season

16:40

two and being recast Relatively new to

16:42

yellow jackets and I watched seasons

16:44

one and two for the first time

16:46

right before season three started Mari

16:48

actually was a named character in season

16:50

one and she was portrayed by

16:52

the same actress until the end She

16:54

did not have a role, but

16:56

she was highlighted a bit more than

16:58

the unnamed characters Yeah, so, uh, like

17:01

Akilah for sure got recast. She

17:03

was played by Kia King in season

17:05

one. And then the Akilah that

17:07

we've come to know and love is

17:09

Nia San Daya. And

17:11

I thought that they recast another

17:13

one between season one and two. But,

17:15

uh, yeah. Maybe.

17:17

The point is, is like, Mari might as well

17:19

not have been a character. She

17:22

was just, yeah. Daniel

17:25

says her thing in season one was being the

17:27

person in charge of cooking. But

17:30

she was, yeah, not super heavily

17:32

featured. And

17:34

then Jen was the one who wasn't

17:36

given a name until season two and was

17:38

recast between seasons two and three. Okay,

17:40

was Jen and Akilah. Anyway,

17:44

I'm glad I was an established character from the beginning

17:47

that ended up being Pit Girl. In the episodes leading

17:49

up to the finale, it was seeming like Hannah would

17:51

be Pit Girl and I was disappointed. seen

17:53

a lot of other shows introduce new

17:55

side characters in the same season they

17:57

get killed off, while establishing characters remain protected

17:59

by plot armor. I dislike this trend

18:01

as it really lowers the stakes when writers

18:03

show that they're afraid to kill their

18:06

established characters. I feel like Yellowjackets

18:08

was starting to veer into that territory with the

18:10

continual reveals that there are more adult survivors

18:12

than we thought in season one. Mari

18:14

may not have been a major player, but she's

18:16

an OG Yellowjacket who's been around the whole time.

18:19

So Danielle welcomes her death. Uh,

18:22

yeah. I'm with you.

18:24

You know, that's an interesting point because like, I

18:26

don't know why, but I kind of got excited

18:28

with the Hannah as pit girl. And I don't

18:30

know because like that's like, you

18:32

know, the screaming frog is kind of

18:34

an ass pull anyway. And

18:37

the pivot from that to, oh,

18:39

also, here's a person that we don't

18:41

have to sacrifice so we can

18:43

keep the main cat. The thing is,

18:45

is like this whole opinion is

18:47

wild to me since out of three

18:49

seasons, we've lost three main yellow

18:51

jackets in the adult timeline. And

18:54

in the first season, we lost one of

18:56

the primary stars in the teen timeline as

18:58

well, several of them. So it's like, this

19:00

isn't a show that's scared to kill people.

19:02

I was just thinking that I guess Hannah

19:04

would be a zig because it's like, ooh,

19:06

something. But I don't know why I thought

19:08

that was cool because you could look at

19:10

as being like a desperate. Yeah. Injection

19:13

of a blade of shielding for

19:15

the main characters, but sure Yeah,

19:17

it's certainly not as guilty of

19:19

it as a lot of shows

19:22

like it's willing to kill its

19:24

main characters more than most I

19:26

would say unless you're comparing it

19:28

to like a game of Thrones

19:30

or something then But even then

19:32

game thrones was only that way

19:35

in the in the goings. Once

19:37

the story got light, there's a

19:39

remarkably few main characters that die

19:41

in the back half of that

19:43

show compared to the first half.

19:45

But yeah, a

19:47

lot of people. You're right. put the fear, you

19:50

put the fear of God and people that your

19:52

favorite character might die at any time for some random

19:54

ass decision. And it does traumatize people. It does

19:56

make you think, oh, God, this show is crazy. It'll

19:58

do anything. Mm hmm. Yeah,

20:01

I don't don't know why

20:03

people don't feel that way

20:05

about this show. I do

20:07

now now that van has

20:09

died. I absolutely feel that

20:11

way Yeah You pulled the

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Queen of Hearts that means

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support.ballmove.com. All right, let's go to Jamie,

21:34

who says really resonating with your take

21:36

that Vans the only truly good one

21:38

left, and I can't help but see

21:40

a correlation between who she is and

21:43

the fact that she's the team's goalie.

21:45

Goalies are stereotyped as the

21:47

team weirdos, which isn't unfounded but

21:49

doesn't capture the full scope of

21:51

the goalie mentality. There's something deeper.

21:57

Goleys aren't flashy at the forefront, but

21:59

they're essential. They are calm

22:01

under pressure and emotionally steady while

22:03

often isolated, witness to everything unfolding

22:05

while carrying the weight of protecting

22:07

the team when all else breaks

22:09

down. They trust their team,

22:11

even knowing they might be left exposed. They

22:14

defend the line and they endure,

22:16

taking hits and stay standing. Van

22:19

embodies all of this, absorbing trauma

22:21

without shutting down. She says she

22:23

stays true to herself, caring, kind,

22:25

humorous, loyal. I'm sad that

22:27

being ultimately good by sparing Melissa cost

22:29

me in her life, but it's such a

22:31

last line of defense moment. Van

22:33

doesn't give in to the what the wilderness wants. She

22:35

guards that line. Van,

22:38

Van's my hero. I

22:41

was kind of surprised to hear the take

22:43

that the goalies aren't like considered big stars because

22:45

again, I'm not a big soccer fan or

22:47

hockey fan, although I'm kind of warming up on

22:49

the ladder. And I've always thought that the

22:51

goalies were one of the more recognizable You

22:54

know, I mean it seems like

22:56

they take the brunt of the blame

22:58

when they you know like no

23:00

one Credits him for a win because

23:02

I don't score any points, right?

23:04

But everybody credits him with a loss

23:06

if they let a couple goals

23:08

sneak through so I guess that but

23:10

And they get like when there's

23:12

a good save they always get cheered

23:14

like way more I think then

23:16

Well, if you're a good goal scorer

23:18

you get more cheers than a

23:20

goalie probably but sure that is a

23:22

goalie Because the cheers that goalie

23:24

gets are like, I don't even know

23:26

their cheers. They're like size of

23:29

relief. Like, you know, everyone's kind of

23:31

like, oh, yeah. And a lot

23:33

of times just follow up efforts. And

23:35

it's like, it's not it's not

23:37

the same as like the exultant when

23:39

you really it's not a standing

23:41

ovation when you save a goal. But

23:43

right, right. But I like the

23:45

symbolism of the the soccer bleeding into

23:47

the character, even if I can't

23:49

quite appreciate it. Yeah.

23:51

Yeah. I'm not the

23:53

world's most knowledgeable soccer fan.

23:56

What sport are you an expert in, Jim? That's

23:58

what I want to know. You

24:01

consider yourself a man

24:03

like robot wars, battle

24:06

bots. I guess I'm not

24:08

an expert. I don't know. What is

24:10

an expert? What's that? What's that

24:12

one show you're watching where they just like

24:14

five five dudes on five dudes in a

24:16

square ring? Last man stands

24:18

standing wins. I remember you were briefly

24:20

into that sporting event. They

24:27

got they got I believe it

24:29

is it's some kind of Eastern your

24:31

combat sport But yeah, it's like

24:33

a team two teams of five into

24:35

a ring and they just are

24:37

wailing like five on one You have

24:40

one v one times five you

24:42

could have 3v2 versus 3v2 and I

24:44

don't know you showcase on lunch

24:46

once and I'm like I was gonna

24:48

say That sounds like a lunch

24:50

topic Yeah Back when I

24:52

was looking for crazy shit like mukbang

24:54

and weird. I don't know. Slap contests.

24:56

Do you look for it or does

24:58

it just come to you naturally because

25:00

of the curiousity your feed? No,

25:03

I looked for it back then because

25:05

we needed topics for lunch and those

25:07

were good topics. Okay.

25:11

But yeah, I would not say I'm an expert

25:13

in any sport. I know the rules for most

25:15

sports or at least I did 20 years ago

25:17

when I followed sports. Yeah, I

25:19

feel like as a kid, I had working

25:21

knowledge of the three big sports. Oh,

25:24

yeah. But then as

25:26

it doesn't like I really only know anything

25:28

about football and I wonder why that

25:30

is. It's probably because we just we knew

25:32

the base level, but there's so much

25:34

more that you get into a game about

25:36

like designated hitters and pinch hitting and

25:38

all this other stuff that you don't fucking

25:40

know when you're playing on the playground

25:43

changes. Like that's the thing. I

25:45

would say I'm pretty knowledgeable about baseball, but

25:47

I think it's changed. in the last 20

25:49

years, quite a bit. Did

25:51

did did we hit our heads and wake up

25:53

in an ESPN podcast? What the hell is going

25:55

on? Is this? Yeah, we might

25:57

have. I don't know. I was just huffing

25:59

this cave gas over here. Do that. It's good.

26:01

We're supposed to. Yeah. And for

26:03

some reason, the goalie looks like it's

26:05

one of the Biblically Biblically accurate angels. It's

26:07

just wheels of eyes on fire. All

26:10

right. The cave gas. Let's let's

26:12

maybe move on to the next next

26:14

gas pocket. Becky

26:17

writes in and says,

26:19

I've been thinking, what if

26:21

Melissa kidnapped Jeff and

26:23

Callie? We don't know how long Shawna

26:25

was gone and I don't see Jeff cutting off

26:27

only Callie's phone and leaving his active. All

26:31

right. Melissa,

26:34

yeah, scrambled, went to, I

26:37

don't know how she'd know where Shawna lives. It's

26:39

the only problem. I guess she's

26:41

been stalking her. She left that. That's gonna say, yeah,

26:43

she went to her house. So

26:46

Sean is not that's the thing is

26:48

Sean is living in plain sight like she's

26:50

married to the same guy Got the

26:52

same name living in the same town. I

26:54

don't think she'd be hard for a

26:56

former bitter yellowjack at the track down. I

26:59

Don't know we'll see I guess

27:01

if they get a season four

27:03

we'll find out what really happened

27:05

Cuz she could be text texting

27:07

I guess from Jeff's phone True

27:11

And also there are some questions left unanswered.

27:13

How many survivors were there? It was

27:15

never specified based on the timeline. They only

27:17

have a few weeks left out there.

27:20

I think more survivors are out there and

27:22

there's a bigger plan happening, much like

27:24

the hunt. At

27:26

what point? So

27:28

here's an opinion I've

27:30

got. I think if the

27:32

show wants to be considered smart,

27:35

they've crossed a Rubicon of introducing

27:37

more surprise surviving Yellow Jackets because

27:39

they had to do the

27:41

extraordinary of, oh, this person was

27:43

actually dead. It was commonly

27:45

known to be dead in this universe, and

27:47

they faked their death. Like,

27:50

there's got, there can't be any, because they

27:52

would have mentioned it, right? When they're going

27:54

through to possible people that could be fucking

27:56

with them. If there was other

27:58

yellow jackets that are not in contact with

28:00

surviving, that would have had to have come up,

28:02

right? Had to have. Probably. Yeah,

28:07

I see one way out of it, although

28:09

it doesn't. It doesn't help what you just

28:11

said about, you know, them not mentioning them.

28:13

But if there are still other yellow jackets

28:16

alive and they don't want to do this

28:18

surprise, there were other yellow jackets alive, they

28:20

could do it as part of the adult

28:22

hunt. Like we're going to take out everyone.

28:24

We're going to be the last one standing,

28:26

not Shauna. And so now they go seeking

28:28

them out. Or there was

28:30

like they all had this. There is this

28:32

implication. They all took a pact. Even

28:35

the ones that are having psychotic

28:37

breaks that can't be relied on to.

28:40

Tell the time or the color of sky

28:42

accurately. They're all sworn to this code of

28:44

secrecy that they're just gonna forget and not

28:46

remember and not come play I Wonder if

28:48

there was a girl or two that held

28:50

out and be like fuck that we're going

28:52

I'm selling books. You know like yeah, I

28:54

hate people buying dude your shit. You guys

28:56

did I'm gonna sell some books. I'm gonna

28:58

get a movie made. I'm going on Mari And

29:03

they and then and that's what they're

29:05

referring to is the things they did when

29:07

they got back. But how the hell

29:09

would they kill a fellow yellow jacket under

29:11

what has to be intense media scrutiny

29:13

before they could spill the beans? So it's

29:15

like, I don't even. Yeah, I don't

29:17

know. That's why. Oh,

29:20

also, Ty has to get

29:23

her revenge on Melissa. Yeah, I

29:26

believe that. I want

29:28

that. Does she? Because Ty fucked Melissa. I

29:30

mean, that's the thing is like, I

29:32

can't. Tye doesn't deserve shit, man, as far

29:34

as I can tell. She

29:37

was part of the problem. Yeah,

29:39

I mean, I didn't see that

29:41

clearly until this season. Like she backed

29:43

Shauna's crazy play. It was

29:45

just Shauna and Lottie, but she

29:47

backed their crazy play against even her

29:49

girlfriend's wishes, say, and and her plan to

29:51

get away from that is like, oh,

29:53

well, just, you know, we'll play out the

29:55

winter and you'll stack the deck and

29:57

other of our friends will die. Fuck Tye.

30:00

So dark tie light tie. What?

30:02

Yeah. I mean, you can say they're

30:04

one and the same, but I feel bad

30:06

for like Ty being, uh, having this

30:08

passenger, this dark passenger in her. I

30:11

mean, I feel bad for Lottie too,

30:13

because she had a full blown, you know,

30:15

diagnosed mental illness and just was deprived

30:17

of her medicine. Like she could have, you

30:19

know, maybe lived in a normal life

30:21

with her treatment, but I don't know, her

30:23

home life seemed like it was kind

30:25

of garbage too. Yeah,

30:27

for sure. All

30:30

right, let's go to Matt from

30:32

Mid -State, New York. No one ever

30:34

talks about Mid -State, New York. It's

30:36

because it's mid. Same thing

30:38

as Ohio. We're just mid. You know,

30:40

no one... Ohio's not making the news.

30:42

If it is, it's for fucking poisonous

30:44

train wrecks. Nothing. Nothing

30:46

too good. Nothing too

30:48

bad. All

30:51

right, both my wife and I have

30:53

watched since day one and loved season

30:55

one. Season two was a bit of

30:57

a downgrade and disappointment overall. However, We

30:59

both really love the third season. At

31:01

the time of this email, there has been no

31:03

renewal, but I think the series would end perfectly

31:06

on a modified season four. I think a mini

31:08

series of four episodes would be perfect to wrap

31:10

everything up. I want to see

31:12

them rescued in. They

31:14

say they still owe us that bonus

31:16

Christmas episode that was floating around that we

31:18

were all certain we were going to

31:20

get. Remember that? Remember that when the show

31:22

runners were talking about, oh, yeah, it's

31:24

it's it's out there. Yeah,

31:26

I remember it because I was saying, no

31:28

way. This is dumb. This doesn't sound like anything

31:31

a show would do. And it turns out,

31:33

oops, they never did it. So

31:36

I want to see them rescued

31:38

in those first few months for joining

31:41

society. I think they

31:43

could explore a lot of layers of how

31:45

they adjust. Do Vanitya pretend nothing happened? Is

31:47

Misty backed being a social outcast? How does

31:49

Shauna stay with Jeff? Then

31:51

in the present timeline, we can wrap up the

31:53

adult Shauna issue. while also

31:55

finishing Walter's side story. I

31:57

still think he's trying to crack the original Yellow Jackets

31:59

case from when they were teens and he doesn't actually

32:01

care about Misty. Overall, I'm in

32:03

for another season and while I'm happy we

32:05

got answers, I want one more arc of

32:08

how everyone handles the return. All

32:10

right. Yeah. Yeah.

32:14

It's boy, the thing about Walter is

32:16

his character set up to be

32:18

anything that he is needed to be.

32:20

If it turns out that this

32:22

is all just been a long con

32:24

to solve the unsolvable Yellow Jackets

32:26

murder and he identified Misty as the

32:28

his his best into it, I

32:30

would totally believe that. If he has

32:33

loved Misty from afar and admired

32:35

her on the message boards and then

32:37

found out she's secretly Christina Ricci

32:39

and in the Yellow Jackets universe and

32:41

like, fuck yeah, I want a

32:43

piece of that. I totally believe that.

32:46

I totally believe that he could have everything

32:48

had been true blue and you know, he

32:50

just kind of fell in love with her

32:52

because she's inherently a cool person. I

32:54

guess that's a, you know, but. Yes,

32:57

it's like there's because like we

33:00

know he's a liar. We

33:02

know he's a smooth, effective liar. I've

33:05

yet we know that he's

33:07

capable of like suppressing and enhancing

33:09

emotions to like get a

33:11

certain manipulative effect. So like, yeah.

33:13

He could be he could

33:15

do anything. He's capable of anything.

33:19

Yeah. And I'm definitely like

33:21

most interested in seeing

33:23

him and Misty in the

33:25

adult timeline of anyone

33:27

at this point. Oh,

33:29

well, Jeff and Callie. I think

33:31

that combo, those two duos are

33:33

just like, yeah, I want more

33:36

of them. I

33:38

guess I want Shauna, but

33:40

only for someone to give revenge on her. So,

33:45

yeah, we'll see. Yeah,

33:49

fuck Shawna. I did not expect to

33:51

be saying that at the end of

33:53

season three. I tell you what. All

33:55

right. Diogo writes in

33:57

says, you know how I would go

33:59

back to watching this train wreck if

34:01

in season four they had Jeff and

34:03

Callie hunt and cannibalize Shawna. That

34:08

would be quite a turn for Jeff. At

34:10

least for Jeff. I don't know, Callie's got that

34:13

darkness in her. But Jeff, that would be quite

34:15

the turn for Jeff. Your strength

34:17

being a smother. How's that eater? Yeah,

34:19

I could see that. Mm -hmm. And

34:21

then I tell the hotel guys to watch

34:23

out. If

34:26

Jeff turns into a cannibal. Oh,

34:28

right. Yeah, the Joel. Ooh, someone

34:30

think of the Joles. Right.

34:33

Is it the Joles? It's the Joles, right? I

34:36

think it's Joles, yeah. Okay, cuz I

34:38

just thought oh my god, did I just

34:40

get a last of us wire crossed? Nope

34:43

All right Melanie's is writing in

34:45

to say for most of the show

34:47

I've been wondering why the hell

34:49

Jeff married Shawna or stayed married to

34:51

Shawna after reading her journals But

34:54

in season three, I've been wondering why

34:56

the hell Shawna married Jeff Just

34:58

a good dude mostly and a better

35:00

husband than she deserves so it's

35:02

not about him personally the amount of

35:04

pain just looking at him must The

35:08

amount of pain just looking at him

35:10

must have brought when Shauna got home. Shauna's

35:12

anger after losing her baby

35:14

was palpable. Even though it's manifesting

35:16

in psychopathic ways, Teen

35:19

Shauna is clearly in a tremendous amount of pain

35:21

at the beginning of season three. So why

35:23

would she go home and marry Jeff of all

35:25

people? Jeff's a constant reminder of

35:27

the guilt she feels for the fight that

35:29

led to Jackie dying. Since it was during that

35:31

fight that Jackie revealed she knew Shauna was

35:33

pregnant with Jeff's baby and told everyone. It

35:37

also had to be a reminder that

35:39

she ate her, because I'm assuming Jeff was

35:41

hoping that Jackie, his girlfriend

35:43

when they left, would walk off that plane.

35:46

He would also be a constant reminder of the

35:48

child she lost during a birth that almost

35:50

killed her. I cannot imagine how she could come

35:52

back 18 months later and begin an actual

35:54

relationship with Jeff and then marry him. I'm

35:57

torn between thinking Shauna married him to punish

35:59

herself or as a fuck you to the

36:01

ghost of Jackie. Like, she deserves

36:03

to be constantly reminded of the worst things

36:05

that have ever happened to her and that she's

36:07

done. Or maybe she's saying

36:09

fuck you to Jafki because she's so not

36:11

worried that she fucked Jeff. And

36:13

look, bitch, she actually loves me. Or

36:16

maybe, like Melissa said, Sean is just

36:18

determined to be miserable. Thoughts? I

36:20

mean, that latter is a

36:22

compelling case. Like, that felt like

36:24

she was pretty much read

36:26

for filth. I

36:28

do like the mental image of every

36:30

time Shauna blows Jeff just being like,

36:33

fuck you, fuck you, Jackie. You

36:35

thought you were you thought you

36:37

were Queen shit. We ate your ass.

36:40

You were nothing but a

36:42

slow, slow roasted pot stew

36:44

for me, pot roast for

36:46

me. So

36:49

that's the thing is like

36:51

is Shauna the singularly despicable character

36:53

because like Ty had some

36:55

mental, you know, clearly unless this

36:57

is wilderness bullshit. She has

36:59

some mental illnesses. You've got a

37:02

lot, obviously, with mental illness.

37:04

A lot of the gals, you

37:06

know, Misty has got something,

37:08

you know, with with her upbringing.

37:11

Shauna seems like the most normal, but

37:13

we also don't know hardly anything

37:15

about her background. So like what is

37:17

When people say, like, what does

37:19

it mean? Like, it's OK. Well, Lottie

37:21

didn't have a choice. Shana chose

37:23

to. What does that even mean? Shana

37:26

chose to be a person

37:28

who is so uncomfortable in

37:30

her life that she has

37:32

to continually inject chaos into

37:35

it so she feels anything

37:37

like that's not like that's

37:39

not neurotypical. So like. But

37:42

I feel like that's what a lot

37:44

of people, including me, I get what

37:46

they're saying. Like, yeah, Lottie's just. got

37:48

some serious, like, chemical issues with her

37:50

brain fucked up. She was on medicine

37:52

already. Ty has

37:54

a split personality. She'll

37:56

never, like, be totally okay.

37:58

Shauna didn't have any

38:00

of that, like, deep -seated, in

38:03

-brain chemical imbalance kind of

38:05

shit going on when she

38:07

first started. And she

38:09

kind of went down this

38:11

road, choice by choice. I

38:14

get what they're saying. Yeah, like

38:17

I'm not a psychologist of any type

38:19

So I can't tell you like

38:21

if there is a fundamental difference here,

38:23

but in my mind there's a

38:25

big difference Yeah, I agree and it's

38:27

like also go back to like,

38:29

you know concepts of free will and

38:32

you know, do we get to

38:34

choose anything that we do but Yeah,

38:36

I think that yeah from the

38:38

conventional point of view Shawna is definitely

38:40

the one that's quote -unquote evil Everyone

38:42

else has got some outs that

38:44

like if only they could kept on

38:47

them if only they you know,

38:49

the things would have missed is a

38:51

weird edge case I think yeah,

38:53

cuz she's been so bullied that she's

38:55

Right, she's responding to it. Yeah,

38:58

I don't know the thing about

39:00

Shana is it all feels proactive

39:02

on her part like She's the

39:04

one intentionally making the choices to

39:06

be shitty whereas Misty's kind of

39:08

reacting to everyone being sure In

39:11

the final stages of a child why like do

39:13

children choose to do that? Like that's I guess that's

39:15

my only question is like what since we don't

39:17

know anything about our background Like what if there's some

39:19

kind of monstrous thing that happened to her that

39:22

we just don't know about? Yeah,

39:24

there could be Until they show

39:26

us that anyway, I'm still

39:28

gonna say she sucks the most

39:30

and Misty sucks the second

39:32

most but she's way more fun

39:35

to watch true True and

39:37

for whatever reason she's not tormented

39:39

about like I mean,

39:41

why isn't Misty more tormented? And she just

39:43

had a shit ton of therapy or did

39:45

she just like? Because

39:47

she, you know,

39:49

with the smashing of the

39:51

transponder is arguably most a

39:53

blame. You know, like it was

39:55

an accident. But then

39:57

when the free will started to come

39:59

back into play, she chose to to maintain

40:02

her unique social position as the person

40:04

who knows a little bit of first aid

40:06

out in the wilderness. And

40:08

keep the good times rolling rather

40:10

than they get rescued and

40:12

Yeah, how is she so blasé

40:14

about this stuff like she's

40:16

just got this very transactional view

40:18

of friendships But it's also

40:20

a very real like something she

40:22

feels like friendship is she

40:25

subscribes to the My Little Pony

40:27

friendship is mag magic philosophy,

40:29

but she also Sees it as

40:31

as you know very one -sided

40:33

and transactional and she has

40:35

to yeah, I They might

40:37

have touched on or hinted at

40:39

like what misty's damages. But

40:41

yeah, maybe she's because it's sometimes like your

40:43

damages. You were a weird kid. Your

40:45

parents are weird. They raised you a little

40:47

weird. You were in a weird cult

40:49

and didn't let you watch cultural touchstone movies

40:51

and you just kind of stick out

40:53

and kids are like fucking pack of chickens.

40:55

They see a spot of red on

40:57

you. They think it's blood and they'll peck

41:00

you to death. Well, yeah,

41:02

maybe that's her damage. just

41:04

just systematic bullying like like you kind

41:06

of said. Seems

41:08

like it. So I'm

41:10

feeling the working hypothesis

41:13

anyway. Lori

41:15

in Atlanta says I've had

41:17

trouble squaring the evil Shauna that

41:19

has emerged in this season

41:21

with the ditzy distracted Shauna of

41:23

earlier seasons. Maybe it's been

41:25

too long since I saw the first season, but

41:27

Shauna biting a piece out of Melissa and then

41:29

going around with blood all over her face seemed

41:31

extreme. It is

41:33

extreme in any

41:35

situation. We don't have

41:37

to bring out the weasel words.

41:39

We don't have to use alleged. We

41:41

got an omnipresent perspective here. That's

41:44

crazy. Yeah.

41:47

I guess she did beat up Lori. Sorry,

41:49

not Lori. Lottie at one point. But

41:51

I don't remember her in the first season

41:53

being so vicious. If losing

41:55

her baby did that to her, then why

41:57

would she be so blasé about her

41:59

actual child? Feels inconsistent. Maybe it's hard for

42:02

me to see Melanie Linsky as an

42:04

evil mastermind, excellent actress, though she may be.

42:07

I. I

42:09

don't know. I think

42:11

she's been trying to cover

42:13

up a hole in

42:16

herself with that, right? Blase,

42:18

did see distracted sort

42:20

of housewife persona, right?

42:22

Mm hmm. That's

42:24

the thing she's using as a band

42:26

-aid over her real issue, which is

42:29

I want to be powerful and

42:31

in charge and I had to take

42:33

it away from me. Yeah.

42:36

Yeah, and I do think it's real. I

42:38

think that that's the tension here is that

42:40

the adult plot line is a mess and

42:43

this is nothing like how they imagine things

42:45

going down and Melanie Linsky's like I'm now

42:47

biting. the chunk of flesh

42:49

off an Oscar nominated actor here on the

42:51

floor like what the fuck is going

42:53

on. Like it might be

42:55

fun and interesting, but like not what

42:57

you signed up for. Cause like they,

42:59

I feel like they want to retcon Shana

43:01

as being the actual dead -eyed, no empathy

43:03

psychopath. You know, with

43:05

Kylie now being like, yeah, she did. We

43:07

went through the motions, but there was always

43:10

just something, you know, kind of blank. Behind

43:12

the eyes and whatnot and

43:14

like the other girls had genuine

43:16

empathy for each other like

43:18

even Mari like it I thought

43:20

everyone hated Mari, but it

43:22

seems like only maybe Shawna hated

43:24

Mari But yeah that she's

43:26

but but I can't imagine it

43:28

that kind of dead -eyed sociopath

43:30

would just be able to

43:33

blend in the middle -aged life

43:35

for 25 years But But

43:37

also Jeff, I don't know, maybe she he's

43:39

just she's just used her psychopathy to make him

43:42

miserable and mediocre. Like what?

43:45

So yeah, I feel like it's

43:47

a wild personality swing that

43:50

they're trying to pretty effectively, to

43:52

be honest, retrospectively justify. But

43:54

yeah, yeah, those pieces

43:56

don't literally connect. Mm

43:59

hmm. Yeah, I think that

44:01

they wanted to go a little bit harder on that. They

44:03

could have had her. be

44:05

more intentional about the murder of

44:08

Adam rather than have it

44:10

be a sort of accident, you

44:12

know. Or maybe

44:14

the thesis is like that this

44:16

is a kind of psychopathy that can,

44:18

you know, that some people can

44:20

develop as a defense mechanism when they're

44:22

in stressful situations and then it

44:24

goes dormant when it's not. Yeah, I

44:26

can see that. Cuz they

44:28

that's like does seem like they've read a lot

44:30

that's the other thing I got from the Hollywood

44:32

reporter interview with the showrunners is it seems like

44:34

they've read a lot of pop psychology about Trauma

44:36

and all but they haven't really cracked a book.

44:38

It's like they they they read a magazine article

44:40

and like oh, this is fucking cool It's right

44:42

a show based on it because every time the

44:44

authors like what you've talked about trauma. What does

44:46

it mean? They're like, I don't know if I

44:48

could get into the neuroscience of it Well, then

44:51

why did you just talk about if you looked

44:53

at neuroscience? The

44:55

interviewer asked you that because the previous answer you said,

44:57

well, if you look at the neuroscience of trauma, you find

44:59

out, he's like, let's talk more about the neuroscience. Well,

45:01

don't know if I can tell you about the neuroscience. Okay.

45:06

Yeah. I

45:08

don't know. No one watching

45:10

the show. Well, not no one, but

45:12

almost no one watching the show. knows any

45:15

of that stuff anyway. So it doesn't

45:17

really. That's what I'm saying. It's it's a

45:19

move. But it can it can't explain

45:21

why it feels like the characters are kind

45:23

of careening around in a weird way,

45:25

because at some level, we kind of instinctively

45:27

know what, you know, we were around

45:29

human beings and we know how they act.

45:32

And, you know, yeah, that's true. Yeah.

45:35

You do pick up on those cues for sure. uh

45:38

lori continues this was super

45:40

on the nose but i

45:42

don't think you mentioned it

45:44

how do you like the

45:46

metaphor of transitioning to another

45:49

plane of consciousness with plain

45:51

in quotes because fans doing

45:53

it oh my god mm

45:55

-hmm it is pretty clever

45:57

i suppose so uh also

45:59

somewhere it was stated that

46:01

uh they were in the

46:03

wilderness for 19 months We

46:05

have, we have to be coming up on that

46:07

in the 90s timeline, assuming the crash was in the

46:09

spring, the tail end of the school year.

46:12

In a way, Nat on the mountaintop

46:14

could be the end, like Rescue is

46:16

coming, but not having another season would

46:18

leave one giant loose end, Hannah. We

46:21

know that she died. We saw her obituary

46:23

on someone's computer. But if Rescue

46:25

is coming soon, when did they

46:27

kill her? When did she die?

46:31

What about the others that don't

46:33

seem to have made it

46:35

into the present Aquila Jen others

46:37

maybe Watching the reentry would

46:39

be so juicy, but it strains

46:41

crujulity to think that the

46:43

cannibalism secret could have been kept

46:45

for so long since we

46:47

all know That's what happens with

46:50

a plane crash in a

46:52

cold climate So that's the thing

46:54

is like It seems like

46:56

there was two overlapping conspiracies that

46:58

misty and van and

47:00

Nat were in on the

47:02

fix to transponder and go get

47:04

help and use the cover

47:06

of a hunt to do that.

47:08

But the JV team, Jen

47:11

and Akilah and Amara and Melissa

47:13

were of the plan of, yeah,

47:15

let's fake a hunt, but use

47:17

that as a cover to isolate and

47:19

kill Shauna. Because

47:21

we take care of her

47:24

and maybe Lottie too, because remember,

47:26

Melissa went, and tried to

47:28

kill Shana, but she couldn't. A

47:31

lot of people interpret Akilah going and

47:33

talking that mess to Lottie as her

47:35

trying to talk herself into killing her,

47:37

and she just couldn't do it. And

47:40

then the other theory is that Jen

47:42

was actually supposed to go off and

47:44

kill Ty, but she chickened out and

47:46

instead say, oh, we want you to

47:48

find, you know, so it's like you

47:50

got these different plots that anyway. Everybody

47:53

but like Ty and Shauna and Lottie

47:55

were in on, but they didn't know about

47:57

each other's plot and what was going

47:59

on. Yeah, possible.

48:03

But. But it's a good

48:05

question about like when Hannah dies. I mean, I

48:07

could see Shauna wanting her to die. Can

48:09

she make that happen? Well,

48:11

that's what I'm saying. Like, do

48:14

we know of any JV? Well, I

48:16

guess Melissa, she did survive. And

48:18

the Yellow Jackets knew she survived until she

48:20

faked her own death. Because

48:23

I was like, I wonder if it's like

48:25

a varsity versus JV like the JV team

48:27

are like, no way we're going along with

48:29

this. Oh, Merta bullshit. You know,

48:31

like none of us did the bad.

48:33

They're really bad shit. You guys did.

48:36

This is the varsity trying to cover

48:38

their own crimes. And then they they

48:40

end up killing them. But again, how

48:42

in the world like it seems like

48:44

they could talk everyone except for maybe

48:46

Nat into killing Hannah and Melissa because

48:48

Melissa got close to her too. Mm

48:51

hmm. But

48:53

then yeah, like how do they have

48:55

the other yellow jackets if indeed they

48:58

do murder them on their? You

49:00

know arrival back how how do they

49:02

do that? Why do they do that

49:04

right if it's a silenced them how

49:06

could that an obvious pattern that gets

49:08

right? Investigated and followed

49:10

up on right. Yeah, and they're

49:13

Tina dear. They're not Professional

49:15

murderers like Misty Quigley is not

49:17

like Dexter at this point.

49:19

These are these are 18 17,

49:21

they're 16 to 18 year old

49:23

girls trying to pull off the crime

49:25

of the century with a massive

49:28

magnifying lens on them. To

49:30

silence that it is like and you

49:32

got to silence them before they can talk

49:35

to anybody. Like, I

49:37

mean, maybe that's the what they

49:39

did. You know, they killed everybody

49:41

who wasn't on board with their

49:43

plan. But yeah, well,

49:45

is the one before they got

49:47

on the plane to come back. Like

49:49

they just murdered them all. So

49:52

they're trying to like, so as the

49:54

plane, as they're trying to get recovered, you

49:56

know, planes in the helicopters in the

49:58

air or whatever, why they're waiting, they're

50:00

like, OK, so what is our story? Let's get

50:02

our story straight. And everyone whose story is crooked,

50:04

they just murdered right then and there. Yeah.

50:09

I don't know why that would keep that secret

50:11

for them. So what process is the thing fucked

50:13

up? What process would they use to

50:15

determine that? Would they have like a tribal

50:17

council to crazy people to determine? Like

50:19

weather cuz like I'm a Simpsons

50:21

like okay, so like Jen's like that

50:23

they're gonna bring all right, Jen

50:25

Are you gonna go along with team

50:27

crazy and keep your silence fuck?

50:29

No, you guys need to go down.

50:31

All right murder All right now

50:33

bring up Let's bring up Akilah Akilah.

50:35

Are you gonna keep her coat

50:37

of silence? Oh fuck? I was like

50:39

how many of them? It might

50:41

just be where they say everybody who

50:43

was involved in this plot who

50:45

carried it out dies and

50:48

that might not include Mel because

50:50

she couldn't kill Shauna. Or

50:52

they hold a vote going

50:54

along with that. They

50:57

hold a vote for who wants

50:59

to, you know, kill Hannah and

51:01

keep our silence and pretend like

51:03

we're just we're just normal innocent

51:05

girls. Yeah. And who

51:07

wants to take Hannah back and tell

51:09

all. And then they just the

51:11

majority is the had this option of

51:14

keeping secrets and he's murdered the

51:16

others. It's hard to imagine.

51:18

Hard to imagine a scenario. Let's take

51:20

a pick them off one by one

51:22

secretly, but... I don't know. This is

51:24

why I guess we need a season

51:26

four, because there are a lot of

51:28

unanswered questions. True. Another

51:31

unanswered question, are you guys gonna

51:33

cover the new John Hamm show? I

51:36

don't think so. Well, we admit it's

51:38

already on like we it's like a couple

51:40

weeks in the air. I'm keeping an

51:42

eye on it because I do like a

51:44

lot of people attached to that. And

51:46

I do like that's an apple. Is that

51:48

apple or Peacock? I think that's apple

51:51

because there's a lot of interesting stuff on

51:53

Peacock that I just don't know that

51:55

has the audience to do anything with, you

51:57

know. Yeah, I know

51:59

your face. Yeah, I really like

52:01

Poker Face that first season, and

52:03

I'm excited for it's second season to

52:05

come back, but like how many people subscribed

52:07

to Peacock, my God? Yeah.

52:09

You know? There's

52:11

more in Showtime, and Showtime's already really

52:14

small. Yeah.

52:17

Alright, let's move on to Dan from Manchester. It

52:19

says, your discussion about Misty's fate in the

52:21

show made me think about her future if she

52:23

survives. Surely what we

52:25

all want next from Showtime is

52:28

a light comedy drama series where

52:30

Misty and Walter solve crimes using

52:32

their network of sluice and Walter's

52:34

extensive financial resources. Throughout the

52:36

series, they never truly trust each

52:38

other but have a peculiar, quasi -sexual

52:40

dysfunctional relationship. Honestly, Showtime already

52:43

has the perfect title. The Bureau of Citizen

52:45

Detectives. No. No. That's

52:47

taken. They

52:49

don't get that. They

52:51

got way more on, Showtime. It's what we

52:53

all want. was that i

52:55

was gonna say get way more lawyers

52:57

than we and it's not like we don't

52:59

know uh a big network to just

53:01

jack the podcast name yeah yeah yeah it

53:03

happens from time to time but uh

53:05

also i'm pretty sure we stole it from

53:08

them in the first place so what

53:10

are you talking about i'm not even like

53:12

oh no i'm not gonna i'm talking

53:14

about the talking dead Uh

53:16

-huh. No, I'm talking about the citizen

53:18

of bureau detectives. Oh, right.

53:21

Pretty sure we found that name

53:23

somewhere. I can't remember where. This

53:26

is very true. Yeah.

53:28

I saw a really funny suggestion. It

53:30

was like a roundup of the

53:33

funniest social media takes on Yellow Jackets

53:35

this year, and there were some

53:37

really funny, funny takes. But one person

53:39

said, I propose that all shows

53:41

have access to the Misty Quigley expansion

53:43

pack. What that means is

53:45

any TV show can just drop

53:47

Misty Quigley wholesale into their show

53:49

if it's getting boring or predictable

53:52

to spice things up. I'm like.

53:55

Yeah, I can't

53:57

think of many shows that are kind

53:59

of like struggling or spinning its wheels

54:01

or just dropping Misty Quigley. Imagine. You

54:03

know, like Season 4 Better Call Saul,

54:05

they're kind of like, you know, really

54:07

losing the plot, getting slip and jimmy

54:09

to Better Call Saul and just Misty

54:11

Quigley's there in an ABQ to start

54:13

solving crimes. Yeah. White

54:15

Lotus. That might get me to

54:17

watch some seasons of White Lotus. Those

54:20

people deserve a Misty Quigley. I

54:22

want someone to figure out what's going on at that

54:24

hotel. Succession.

54:27

I'll go back and watch Succession if they drop her

54:29

in. For all mankind. You

54:32

know, things are getting weird on Mars. Things

54:35

getting weird on Earth. Just just drop her on

54:37

the red planet. Let her figure shit out. Let

54:39

her let her let her let her get to

54:41

the bottom of all this corruption. Turn herself into a

54:43

Martian Queen. It's literally there's no

54:45

wrong answers. Absolutely.

54:48

And frankly, if

54:50

I'm being honest, I would watch this show. I

54:52

would watch a weekly procedural with

54:54

Walter and Misty. I would,

54:56

yeah, if anyone ever actually did

54:58

something like this, I would be just,

55:01

yeah, I'd be fascinated. And

55:03

this is tailored really well to

55:05

their strengths, too. I think they

55:07

love writing Misty and Walter. Right.

55:10

And it shows. So, and they

55:12

get weird with it. So, yeah, just do it. They

55:15

should cancel season four. Forget about season

55:17

four. Let's just do this. Yeah, just go

55:19

with the Misty expansion. It's like,

55:21

it's just such an innovation because you've got

55:23

an, oh, you've got an op in the

55:25

writer's room now. OK, so like you got

55:27

the people and they're they're struggling, they're flailing

55:29

and their stale storylines and you get the

55:31

three showrunners, the Yellowjack just parachuting a writer

55:33

room and they get they in a cone

55:35

of silence and they're just conspiring against the

55:37

other writers. We're looking at your script.

55:39

So what's Misty going to think about this? And it's

55:41

like, yeah, you get you

55:43

get some some some competition, get

55:45

some free market injected into that

55:48

writer's room. Yeah.

55:51

So we need a meta

55:54

show where Misty goes into

55:56

the writer's room. For this

55:58

show. Oh my god, I

56:00

would Didn't they reboot murder

56:02

she wrote with a different

56:05

Angela Landsbury turns out misty

56:07

quickly has been writing murder.

56:09

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get to you know some of

58:12

some of the complaints about the

58:14

season now I guess I want

58:16

to kind of save this stuff to

58:18

the end because I don't know

58:20

I didn't want to kick off

58:22

the podcast with this Martin says

58:24

after three seasons I think Yellow

58:26

Jackets is yet another show time

58:28

show that flirts with real prestige

58:31

before descending into pulpy

58:33

mediocrity. The cardinal sins, as

58:35

Martin sees them. One,

58:37

the two timelines. Creative, brave,

58:39

unique, hard to pull off. And

58:41

they didn't. Teenage Timeline is

58:43

the best part of the show. Knowing

58:45

who survives ultimately robbed too much of the

58:47

show or too much of the tension. Jettisoning

58:50

the adult timeline would have made a

58:52

more focused, tighter, kinetic show. I

58:55

agree. That's a bold choice. um

58:57

especially to do a week to

58:59

week like we talked about you know

59:01

shows have done this lost did

59:03

this to a large degree with a

59:05

lot of flashbacks but they were

59:07

always well timed and uh they were

59:09

inserted where they were needed not

59:11

forced every week so it's hard to

59:13

do number two the death of

59:15

nat the yin and yang battle between

59:17

her and shana is the heart

59:19

of the show if you keep the

59:21

two timelines i want to keep

59:23

that symmetry to the end If

59:26

you really want to recast her,

59:28

there's no fucking shot. That's why

59:30

are people so afraid to recast

59:32

people like I in in the

59:34

industry that just loves to fucking

59:36

crush their workers and bring them

59:38

to heal and make them sign

59:41

contracts against her better. Why the

59:43

hell are they so afraid like

59:45

it to me? This

59:47

is something that like the the

59:49

Hollywood execs would salivate over the fact

59:51

like what if we can get

59:53

it to where it's a thing that

59:56

when an actress actor starts squawking

59:58

or acting up We just fucking find

1:00:00

the next five foot whatever matching

1:00:02

hair color eye color Roughly, it was

1:00:04

just just like fucking recast them

1:00:06

if you and like let me talk

1:00:08

about all the iconic people that

1:00:10

been recast Okay, James Bond has been

1:00:12

recast Batman has been recast Superman

1:00:16

has been recast. You're

1:00:20

saying that that that that that

1:00:22

fucking Nat Natalie cannot and on

1:00:24

the yellow jackets can't be recast.

1:00:26

And especially since like if Julia

1:00:28

Lewis was given 110 percent, that

1:00:30

would be a tall order. But

1:00:32

I think Julia Lewis has kind

1:00:34

of been sandbagging. So it's probably

1:00:37

halfway through season one, judging

1:00:39

by, you know, the behind

1:00:41

the scenes stuff. So it's

1:00:43

like. Why why is Hollywood

1:00:45

so it's like oh, you

1:00:47

just can't do that. Oh,

1:00:49

it's like that's the fifth

1:00:52

rail It's been done so

1:00:54

many fucking they've recast the

1:00:56

entirety of the the classic

1:00:58

Star Trek the old series

1:01:00

crew Oh, yeah, I feel

1:01:02

like it's deep -seated a

1:01:04

Deep -seated respect or respect is

1:01:06

the wrong word a deep

1:01:08

-seated Acknowledgment of star power

1:01:11

like A lot of people

1:01:13

so many people will go watch a

1:01:15

movie just because of the lead

1:01:17

actor, you know, like Tom Cruise is

1:01:19

in the latest Whatever action movie,

1:01:21

I don't care what the action movie

1:01:23

is. I'm gonna go see it

1:01:25

cuz I love Tom Cruise or I'm

1:01:27

gonna go see it cuz I

1:01:29

love I don't know Julia Lewis, but

1:01:31

that's so that's that's a false

1:01:33

Narrative the Hollywood puts out right the

1:01:35

people watch things because stars are

1:01:37

in it people watch people stars because

1:01:39

they're in good stuff that people

1:01:41

know that's No, that's wrong.

1:01:43

I mean, look at the history

1:01:46

of Hollywood. It has been largely

1:01:48

built around the star power of

1:01:50

particular people. Like over the

1:01:52

years, it was literally people will show up.

1:01:54

I don't know if it's that way today.

1:01:56

I think it's less so that way today.

1:01:58

But the golden years of Hollywood is all

1:02:00

about stars. But

1:02:02

to me, it's like I always thought

1:02:04

that was a weird way to look at

1:02:06

it because like a star emerges when

1:02:08

they're in a string of successful things and

1:02:10

people like associate them with quality and

1:02:12

a star falls when they start, you know,

1:02:14

like you can get it. You can

1:02:16

get the American people to watch somebody in

1:02:18

something once or twice, but they get

1:02:20

burnt once or twice. And then that that

1:02:22

star's product is off. If they're inherent

1:02:24

star proper, you may you may age out

1:02:26

of it, but they wouldn't ever with

1:02:29

a string of failures. lose their

1:02:31

star power. So to me, it's like, that's

1:02:33

always been a weird way to look at

1:02:35

things. And like, yeah, like the respect there. Yeah.

1:02:39

No, I'd like the idea of like trying to

1:02:41

put a movie out there without a star

1:02:43

in it. It can

1:02:45

get easily lost. Like people will just be like,

1:02:47

oh, there's nothing here to draw me. And that's

1:02:49

what I'm saying. Yeah. And then you put a

1:02:51

star in it and suddenly you have something that

1:02:53

people are going to come see. So your studio. benefits

1:02:56

from having that star so creation

1:02:59

of stars the use of stars

1:03:01

I I think yeah, it's an

1:03:03

interesting idea that like Once you

1:03:05

have a star in your show,

1:03:07

could you recast them? I think

1:03:09

so But you probably got people

1:03:12

interested in the show to begin

1:03:14

with in large part or at

1:03:16

least to some degree because of

1:03:18

the star power that was there

1:03:20

to begin with hmm Now yeah,

1:03:22

maybe you can swap them out

1:03:25

but I don't

1:03:27

know. I don't know. Hollywood's a

1:03:29

weird beast, man. There a

1:03:31

lot of factors that go into why

1:03:33

people watch movies. That's

1:03:35

one thing we can definitely agree on.

1:03:37

Hollywood is and has always been a

1:03:39

very weird place. Yeah.

1:03:44

And then, number three, a lot of

1:03:46

functional writing. Nat just giving Shaun of

1:03:48

the Gun to prevent their escape is a good

1:03:50

example. Why? Because the story needed that to happen. Ultimately,

1:03:52

a fun show that became honestly hard to watch

1:03:55

without any characters to root for. Not sure if

1:03:57

I care about season four. The ending was a

1:03:59

good place to end the series and it will

1:04:01

probably be the end for me. All

1:04:04

right. It as I'm saying about it being

1:04:06

a fitting because it's like you're right. It's not

1:04:08

a great end because there's a lot of

1:04:10

new questions got answered. But like it from the

1:04:12

perspective of a fan that's like you or

1:04:14

it's like you're kind of like I kind of

1:04:16

want to see where this is going. You

1:04:18

know, I really six my craw. I don't know who

1:04:20

pit girl. Almost all of

1:04:22

the old school mysteries have been solved

1:04:25

at this point. And now the

1:04:27

proposition is, do you want to see

1:04:29

psychotic Shawna versus the other psychotic

1:04:31

and non psychotic yellow jackets in a

1:04:33

battle for their souls? Is that

1:04:35

is that what you want to see?

1:04:40

I thought I was in for a

1:04:42

supernatural ride where there was going

1:04:44

to be something like it where the

1:04:46

adult women band together against an

1:04:48

evil force and banish it. I'm

1:04:51

not uninterested in a psychotic shot

1:04:53

of being hunted down by the

1:04:55

other Yellow Jackets and brought to

1:04:57

justice or heal or whatever. But

1:04:59

it is it does kind of drive

1:05:01

me a little crazy to people act

1:05:03

like the proposition on the show hasn't

1:05:06

changed. Because

1:05:08

I think it I think part of

1:05:10

it has been expectations, but also part of

1:05:12

it was like. loose

1:05:15

ideas of plot lines that they've

1:05:17

had to improvise on. And again,

1:05:19

mostly in the adult woman timeline.

1:05:21

But ultimately, that's the end, right?

1:05:24

Like if the teenage stuff is awesome,

1:05:26

the adult stuff sucks, the whole

1:05:28

show is going to be remembered as

1:05:30

sucking because the adult stuff stands

1:05:32

on the shoulders of the teenage stuff.

1:05:34

So it's it's kind of like. The

1:05:38

rest of the story and if the rest of the

1:05:40

story is garbage, then shit, we should have just done the

1:05:42

one timeline. Yeah, no,

1:05:44

there's an argument for that for

1:05:46

sure. A tight three -season girl surviving

1:05:48

in the wilderness and the betrayals and

1:05:50

the alliances and the systems of

1:05:53

belief and magic and all this other

1:05:55

stuff that that would be inherently

1:05:57

interesting all by itself. Yeah,

1:05:59

and then if you want to do five

1:06:01

seasons, do two in the adult timeline and

1:06:03

have it just be the adult timeline. Here's

1:06:05

how spin -off yellow jackets. The

1:06:08

later years. It's

1:06:10

just an on the college. Again, it's

1:06:12

like. Yeah, this show was was well

1:06:14

meaning and attention. Like, I think it's,

1:06:16

you know, like like the other emailer

1:06:18

said, like this is an inherently interesting

1:06:20

and cool thing. If you can pull

1:06:22

it off, it's just I don't think

1:06:24

they've pulled it off. Not

1:06:27

quite. And

1:06:29

then we've got Anonymous here who

1:06:31

says, I just wanted to say that

1:06:33

I tried a few Yellow Jackets

1:06:35

podcast and yours was one of the

1:06:38

very few that I felt was

1:06:40

genuine, in my opinion, anyway. Many

1:06:43

others put episodes out as if they were scared

1:06:45

to offend the writers, or hoped the writers would

1:06:47

guest on their pod, which meant they refused to

1:06:49

acknowledge the show's shortcomings at all. Oh,

1:06:51

see, that's ours is real.

1:06:53

That's our secret weapon. We could give two

1:06:55

shits. Yeah. We live

1:06:57

in Cincinnati. The Los

1:06:59

Angeles people can't find that on a map. So,

1:07:02

like, we're lucky to get a

1:07:04

screener every once in a while

1:07:06

from some unsuspecting publicist that doesn't

1:07:08

know a reputation. Yeah. We

1:07:11

have we have wide latitude to talk

1:07:13

to talk shit on shows that we

1:07:15

think deserve it. I wonder how many

1:07:17

PR reps we've gotten fired because they

1:07:19

accidentally gave us screeners not knowing. Well,

1:07:21

the thing is, it's like most of

1:07:24

the shows we got screeners for we've

1:07:26

really enjoyed. So like that's been the

1:07:28

saving that helps. I can't think of

1:07:30

a show like we got screeners in

1:07:32

a walking dead air that had been.

1:07:34

That'd have been real. Maybe that's what galvanized

1:07:36

us. It's like, ah, we want to

1:07:38

keep arms linked from these people because this

1:07:40

shit could go bad at any time. Yeah.

1:07:44

I mean, we didn't start from a place

1:07:46

of privilege with that stuff, right? So

1:07:48

it's easy to maintain the lack of privilege

1:07:50

we have with it. It's like we've always

1:07:52

done it this way. We're

1:07:54

we just have no incentive to

1:07:56

say anything else other than our

1:07:59

feelings on the thing. Anyway,

1:08:01

I felt so frustrated listening to you

1:08:03

read some of the letters that Out

1:08:05

there you were getting when you're getting

1:08:07

a scolding. It's almost as if you're

1:08:09

being held to a higher standard of

1:08:11

content than the actual makers of the

1:08:13

show. What I'm perhaps sensing from you

1:08:15

guys is contempt. And I know

1:08:17

that sounds bad, but I only recognize

1:08:19

it because I feel it too. How else

1:08:21

are we supposed to feel when the writers

1:08:23

clearly think its audience is dumb? Including

1:08:25

those janky -ass flashbacks in the finale

1:08:28

further proves that either they don't trust

1:08:30

themselves or they don't trust us. I

1:08:32

suspect both. They seem to think

1:08:34

we're idiots who will swallow anything they

1:08:36

write no matter how nonsensical due to the

1:08:38

stacked cast. It's like the first season

1:08:40

was written by a talented team aiming for

1:08:42

prestige TV who then used AI for

1:08:44

the last two seasons where the humans then

1:08:46

did the bare minimum to make it

1:08:48

cohesive. I have to wonder if

1:08:50

execs were pushing for certain angles or if the writers

1:08:52

just had a freshman fluke and couldn't keep up. Um,

1:08:56

yeah, because like, I think, I

1:08:58

think, uh, if I put my

1:09:00

Misty Quigley Citizen Detective hat, the

1:09:02

story is that they had a

1:09:04

really great storyline for the young

1:09:06

women and they had an interesting

1:09:08

idea for the adult storyline and

1:09:10

where it would go. And they

1:09:12

told people like Melanie Linsky and,

1:09:14

uh, um, Juliette Lewis

1:09:16

about the, you know, here's the way your

1:09:18

thing's going to zig and zag and, but. But

1:09:21

because the young stuff was nailed down, the

1:09:23

old people stuff wasn't, that was always a

1:09:25

moving target. And they realize, oh, I got this

1:09:27

juicy idea. And they thought the idea was

1:09:29

better, but it's not what they sold Juliette Lewis

1:09:31

on. Now, Juliette Lewis is

1:09:33

unhappy and she's, you know, kicking at the

1:09:35

goats. And she wants off the show. Clearly,

1:09:38

this was supposed to be

1:09:40

a bipolar show, literally revolving around

1:09:42

like like like Shawna and

1:09:44

Nat as the two as the

1:09:46

good and bad sides, you

1:09:49

know. When

1:09:52

yeah, when when they'd wrote Nat adult

1:09:54

Nat out that they lost that now

1:09:56

because of that they're having to make

1:09:58

changes to Shana probably now. She's not

1:10:00

happy. So it's like they just they

1:10:02

sold a bill of goods to one

1:10:04

set of actors and they kept their

1:10:06

products because like things like I can't

1:10:08

find a single bad thing said about

1:10:10

from the younger cast. It seems like

1:10:13

they all have a ball. They love

1:10:15

each other. They think their characters are

1:10:17

awesome. But like, I

1:10:19

also, it's hard to find an adult

1:10:21

cast member who has got unambiguously

1:10:23

positive things to say about the writing

1:10:25

staff. In fact, most of them

1:10:27

throw in shade. And I'm talking to

1:10:29

my millenie linsky. I'm talking about

1:10:31

Lauren Ambrose. I'm talking about,

1:10:33

fuck, what is ties? And

1:10:37

we already went over the,

1:10:39

you know, the Juliet Lewis

1:10:42

stuff. So to me, that's

1:10:44

what makes the most sense.

1:10:46

They just... If they could

1:10:48

have kept the adults interested

1:10:50

and engaged, they probably

1:10:52

could have pulled something really cool

1:10:54

out and had general ideas. But when

1:10:56

that wasn't the part, it's just

1:10:58

kind of all fell apart and they've

1:11:00

been just they've been improvising. Yeah.

1:11:04

Yeah, I'm with him. Like

1:11:06

the only adult who

1:11:08

should feel 100 % good

1:11:10

about this storyline is Misty,

1:11:12

you know, Christina Ricci. Yeah,

1:11:15

she has very little to complain about.

1:11:17

She's been well served by the writing.

1:11:22

Yeah, she's got she's the weirdest character,

1:11:24

too. So it's like, are we saying

1:11:26

she's well served by the writing or

1:11:28

is Misty the type of characters more

1:11:30

malleable that you could beat that character

1:11:32

in a many different shapes? And we'd

1:11:34

be like, yeah, that sounds about right.

1:11:36

I can see Misty doing that. Maybe

1:11:38

the character that's had to adapt the

1:11:41

least or be adapted the least to

1:11:43

any changes in the cast. which is

1:11:45

interesting considering how close she felt she

1:11:47

was to Nat. You

1:11:50

know, it was one thing we

1:11:52

haven't really discussed too much is

1:11:54

how Nat's death affected or didn't

1:11:56

affect Misty. Because there was that

1:11:58

point where she gets her jacket

1:12:00

and she goes to her shed

1:12:02

and she's looking through all her

1:12:05

stuff that I thought was going

1:12:07

to lead to some some expression

1:12:09

of how much she missed her

1:12:11

quote unquote best friend. that

1:12:13

never really came to fruition in

1:12:16

my mind like she had the scenes

1:12:18

at the bar where she was

1:12:20

clearly like depressed about it but it

1:12:22

lasted just like a couple of

1:12:24

scenes and then gone and then she's

1:12:26

back to being kind of crazy

1:12:28

misty. Well, but the thing

1:12:31

is that she's got a lot more.

1:12:33

I do think that the relatively

1:12:35

permanent change in her character. She's got

1:12:37

much stiffer backbone now. She's not

1:12:39

she's not allowing the women to push

1:12:41

her around. She's not allowing Walter

1:12:43

to put it push her around. She's

1:12:45

breaking sure, you know, she's maintaining

1:12:47

her own independence. So I Yeah, I

1:12:49

guess I can I I think

1:12:51

there was a change because she got

1:12:53

some of Nat's fierceness, you know Yeah,

1:12:56

definite change, but it's like

1:12:58

way less of a change than

1:13:01

you see in Shawna, right?

1:13:03

It's gonna be like it's not

1:13:05

nearly as crazy. Well, that's

1:13:07

true. That's true. Shawna has really

1:13:09

taken the crazy throttle and

1:13:11

Pumped at the full military power

1:13:13

Yeah, and there's Thai who's

1:13:15

you know gone Out hunting

1:13:17

people in New York and like everybody

1:13:19

seems to have taken dives off

1:13:21

the deep end and Misty's just like

1:13:23

right somehow become a rock. That's

1:13:25

so weird Yeah But yeah, that's how

1:13:27

well that's the thing is she

1:13:29

she doesn't really change right? She's the

1:13:31

one that fundamentally is not changing

1:13:33

so she's consistent We're all the other

1:13:35

light like you know, I didn't

1:13:37

think Ty was crazy in the first

1:13:39

season But then she started eating

1:13:41

dirt and killing pets and having dark

1:13:43

tie thoughts. And now, so it's

1:13:46

like, yeah, Shauna's changed

1:13:48

huge from Moussey Housewife

1:13:50

to Psychopathic Killer. Van

1:13:53

hasn't changed much and and Misty

1:13:55

hasn't changed much and one's dead and

1:13:57

one's, you know, still Misty. She's

1:13:59

eternally Misty. She'll always

1:14:01

be Misty. And

1:14:04

I think that's going to do it

1:14:06

for the wrap up feedback. Rocket

1:14:09

Gibraltar, Misty's always

1:14:11

there off the

1:14:13

coast of Spain.

1:14:18

Anyway, Walter's yacht. Yeah,

1:14:21

bracketed between Europe and Africa, just

1:14:23

where she wants to be. That's

1:14:25

it. That's it. If you disagree

1:14:27

with any of our takes, too bad

1:14:29

because we're not coming back to

1:14:31

have any more wrap ups. We might,

1:14:33

I'm not ruling out. a season

1:14:36

four coverage, a citizen bureau of detectives.

1:14:38

I'm not ruling it in. I'm

1:14:40

saying that it really depends on what's

1:14:42

going on in the schedule and

1:14:44

what we've heard about whether I will.

1:14:46

I yeah, whether it's going to

1:14:48

be a final season or not. That'd

1:14:50

be another one. Like if I

1:14:52

knew for sure, sure is the final

1:14:54

season. And but

1:14:56

but yeah, it's been fun,

1:14:58

though. I have enjoyed

1:15:00

reading your guys' feedback. I

1:15:03

have thoroughly enjoyed the jokes and

1:15:05

the memes and the stuff that

1:15:07

the community comes up with and

1:15:09

also would like to encourage everyone

1:15:11

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