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And welcome to Baseball HQ Radio
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for Friday, April the 11th. It's
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show number 13 of the 2025
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fantasy baseball season. I am Patrick
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another great Friday full edition for
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you. We'll have two feature expert
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and the Sleeper in the Bust
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podcast. Jason and I will discuss
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the early pace of home runs
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this season, why LEDila Cruz will
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have a lot fewer stolen bases.
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about how to manage a full
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rebuild starting, well now, and he'll
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have some boons and veins. Then
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in our second expert interview, Dr.
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Jim Ferretti, the Fantasy Sports Doctor,
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joins me to talk about the
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advantages of thinking about player injuries
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from earlier in the medical process.
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He'll also tell us why no
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structural damage is often bad news.
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And we'll discuss the vagueness of
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return date estimates. Plus he'll have
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some injury related boons and bays.
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We'll also have our regular weekly fantasy
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of BaseballHQ.com. We'll look at
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American League players including Texas
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outfielder Wyatt Langford and Kansas
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City pitcher Chris Boovich. Then
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we'll head over to the
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National League, looking at players
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including St. Louis catcher Yvonne
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Herrera and Cubs starter Justin
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Steele. We'll also have our
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business in the frequent flyer
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Alex Becky looks at Toronto
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left-handed starter Easton Lucas and
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It's another big Friday full
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of edition. Thanks for joining
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us here at Baseball HQ
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Radio. Hey what do you
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say? Have you got Jack
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gonna talk some Jack Caliononi.
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I'll have more to say about Jack
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Kelly and only later, but let me
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just lay a foundation by saying, holy
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crap, how fast? And in the first
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inning of this Friday full edition, it's
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our first expert interview with Jason Collette
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from Rotoire and the Sleeper in the
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Bust podcast. Jason, welcome back to Baseball
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HQ Radio. Hey Patrick, thanks for having
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me back. How many drafts are you
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playing this year? You know, it's funny
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because I know we always do this
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exercise and I've been bragging all winter
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that I'm like, I finally got my
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draft count under 10 and I've been
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playing eight. Turns out I'm in 10
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leagues. So, two of them you were
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sleepwalking through. Well, I also subdrafted for
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two people, so maybe that's why I
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already felt like 10, but there's a
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couple of people that had some things
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and so I ended up doing two
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N L only. drafts for people. But
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I honestly thought I was an eight
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and then I sat down and looked
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and seen where everything is. I'm like,
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wait, that's 10. So I'm in 10
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Patrick. Well, keep working at it. You'll
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get it down sooner or later to
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maybe next year, you'll get it down
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to 12. I did. You'll get it
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down sooner or later to maybe next
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year, you'll get it down to 12.
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I did trim it. Where is it
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hurt me most? It was like, where
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is it hurt me most? inputting everything
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like if I could find an AI
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tool that would do the input for
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me done and if somebody listening to
3:51
this has one reach out but that
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was that was really my goal was
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to get it down to a single
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digit because of the time the time
3:59
constraints and so I'm at 10 and
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I'm looking at that and thinking maybe
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10 isn't so bad after all because
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right now I don't feel because a
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lot there's some draft and hold in
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there and then there is a couple
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of I've got three AL only league
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so it's a lot of the same
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thing in each one right so yeah
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it's it's more manageable this year. How
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are you doing generally speaking? Let's see
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in my 12 team Mix League and
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this it's a it's a local league
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but it's probably like the like the
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expert local league, because folks like Derek
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Ben Riper, Steve Casalino, Ariel Colin, Derek
4:32
Cardi, all these folks are in this
4:34
league. So it's 12 team mix league
4:36
that it's local, but it's really should
4:39
be an expert league, it's ridiculous. But
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I'm fifth there in a local league,
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a 15 team that we do saves
4:45
and holds and OVP. I'm a point
4:47
out of first. Then I have my
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local AL League, I'm sixth, AL Labor,
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and that's the spite. I have no
4:53
Roy. Los Spencer Aragetti and Zet Gelloff
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and I'm still in for so I'm
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happy. That's good. Uh, XFL. No, it's
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a rebuilding. That's a dynasty elite. We
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drafted November. I've already lost Garrett Cole,
5:03
McClanahan, Royce Lewis, Jean-Carla Stanton, Evan Carter,
5:06
Mike Soroca, Justin Steele, Justin Steele and
5:08
Sean Manaya. So it's a rebuild year.
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And then I have two drafting holds
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on 14th and 8th. RotaWire, O.C., the
5:14
one that beat Jason Collette, won them
5:16
fourth, so I'm like doing pretty decently
5:18
there. And then finally in the in
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the Wharf League, which is part of
5:22
Justin Mason's Earth League, I am 12,
5:24
another league with some injury situations there.
5:26
So all in all, really happy about
5:28
where I am in labor and tout,
5:31
considering the different things happening there and
5:33
especially tout. I need to get in
5:35
the upper half of those standings. It's
5:37
a bit of a slump there lately.
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Think about your best team. What's really
5:41
gone right my best team was really
5:43
gone right for the for the a
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15 team, the one that has OVP
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and saves and holds. It's just been
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a matter of, honestly, avoiding injuries, but
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I look back at that roster and
5:53
see where things work because I see,
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okay, I'm a point out of first,
5:58
but I'm still, like, Yandiya has hit
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his first home run last night. I'm
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still carrying Zach Neto as injured because
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I can't find a good replacement. And
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I just lost Jackson Merrill as well,
6:08
and I haven't had too many. critical
6:10
injuries and I haven't had too many
6:12
critical blowups either. So it just really
6:14
risk risk adverse approach to that particular
6:16
draft. That's a 15 team reset. So
6:18
it's a new, you know, no keepers,
6:20
no nothing and it was able to
6:23
take a different approach there and so
6:25
far it's working. Ask me how my
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Earth League team is doing. How's your
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Earth League team doing? I'm leading my
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league and I'm third overall. Nice. Yeah.
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Was Justin still first overall because Justin...
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Well, no, TTF yeah, I just did
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this first overall. Yeah, I didn't play
6:39
TGF B. I didn't either. That was
6:41
one of the that was one of
6:43
the three fab. But I told Justin,
6:45
I loved the TGF B. I concept
6:47
that I said, if you do a
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draft and hold, I'm all in, I'm
6:52
back in. I would love just to
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go in and set my lineups twice
6:56
a week, but I can't I had
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to cut back Fab leagues and that
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was one of them. Yeah, I hear
7:02
you. So on Tuesday of this week,
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Jason, you had a collect calls column
7:06
at Rotowire talking about the home run
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pace in baseball through Sunday of this
7:10
week. I think the Collins said you
7:12
were at 143 games played in total
7:15
in the books by coincidence or by
7:17
happenstance exactly the same as last season
7:19
at this time. How do you know
7:21
there's enough data in the pipe to
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infer accurate conclusions? So I've looked at
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this over the years and I've gone
7:27
back in the article that talks about
7:29
like going back to 2016 I went
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back and looked and said okay where
7:33
like I would say it is pretty
7:35
much set in stone that the home
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on rate is not going to get
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worse. But we know as the way.
7:42
whether it warms up and everything, the
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home run rate will improve. So we
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know it's not gonna go down. It's
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just how much will it improve. And
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that's really what I've looked at. And
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then so over the, over that sample
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size, when I took a look, I
7:56
could find an average, it's weird because
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the first year, the sample size, it's
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weird because the first year of the
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sample size, it's weird, the first year
8:04
of the sample size, there was a
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10% delta in the early to last.
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played appearances divided by home runs. So
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I'm gonna like a home run is
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hit every X amount of played appearances
8:15
with that. And so that's what I've
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taken a look at and that way
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it can kind of give us an
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expectation because over the years and Todd
8:23
Zola's looked at this too because he
8:25
and I have talked about this a
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lot, you can take the first 10
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to 15 games of a season and
8:31
get a pretty good idea of where
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home runs are going. for the course
8:36
of the year. So if you end
8:38
in, you know, hindsight's always 20, you
8:40
can go back and look at some
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previous seasons, like you go back and
8:44
look at 2023, like hmm, you know,
8:46
10, 15 games in the season, that
8:48
didn't look that great. And look back
8:50
at 2019, that's a great one. Go
8:52
back and look at 2019 and look
8:54
at like the first 10 games of
8:56
the season. Holy crap, something's happening. So,
8:59
yeah. So that's where I like to
9:01
write this article right this weekend every
9:03
single year. Because just to try to
9:05
get folks a heads up, and I
9:07
would say, you know, I ran that
9:09
that data was being That data was
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from end to game Sunday, and obviously
9:13
this week, you know, this whole week
9:15
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. has been a very
9:17
cold week and we've seen a lot
9:19
of we've seen what three no-hitter alerts
9:21
you know we've seen some things happening
9:23
the ball has not traveled well I
9:26
will say some of that's come down
9:28
I'm looking I run these numbers every
9:30
single morning and I'm looking at things
9:32
right now and at this time last
9:34
year so the sample size has increased
9:36
a little bit and obviously this this
9:38
weather this week of weather has put
9:40
a dent in things but at this
9:42
time last year through a 189 contest
9:44
so 300 if my math is correct.
9:46
There were, the league was on pace
9:48
to hit 5,14 home runs. Today, the
9:50
league is on pace to hit 5,177
9:53
home runs right now. Now the pace
9:55
was a little higher early on, but
9:57
that's where things are at the moment.
9:59
So again, we will see more home
10:01
runs, even on the same gradual curve
10:03
that we normally have, but at this
10:05
point last year. compared to this point
10:07
right now, we are still on pace
10:09
for more home runs. However, you know,
10:11
that's only a 160 home runs more.
10:13
That's one more per game or one
10:15
more per contest or day of the
10:18
schedule. That's not a lot. And then,
10:20
but it doesn't match the narrative. Right
10:22
now, the narrative has been the ball
10:24
is due. This is the popular narrative
10:26
that I've seen on social media and
10:28
heard on radio and TV, right? The
10:30
ball is ju and torpedo bats are
10:32
a magic elixir that will fix everything.
10:34
That's what we continue. That's what we've
10:36
heard. And simply put, the data does
10:38
not match up with that because the
10:40
home run, the flyball rate is almost
10:42
identical. This point last year, 11.1 percent.
10:45
Right now, 11.2. It's just the home
10:47
run for contact, almost identical. Everything looks
10:49
just about the same. And so the
10:51
numbers don't match the narrative that we're
10:53
currently hearing in the media. You said
10:55
in the article in just now that
10:57
you're looking at 5,000 plus home runs
10:59
as an as an end of the
11:01
season expectation It's a very high total
11:03
relative to all of baseball history But
11:05
when you look at it compared to
11:07
the happy fun ball season in 2019
11:10
6800 home runs, so there's a really
11:12
big gap between the two and that
11:14
suggests to me that the baseball's not
11:16
as happy and not as much fun
11:18
as it was then and I agree
11:20
with you that whoever says that the
11:22
ball is juiced is probably barking up
11:24
the wrong tree. Yeah it is. Like
11:26
I said, relative to last year we
11:28
will see more home runs because the
11:30
league finished the year with... 5,453 home
11:32
runs last year. And I just said
11:34
a minute ago that it was on
11:37
pace at this point last year to
11:39
hit just over 5,000, 5,000 14. So
11:41
that happened, right? And so if we
11:43
were to give just a similar percentage
11:45
and say, okay, if the league's on
11:47
pace at 5,177 home runs right now
11:49
and get that same, that would put
11:51
the lead total close to 5,600. And
11:53
that was the point of the article
11:55
is like we're looking at a range
11:57
on the on the low end. I
11:59
think I said it was 5605. I'm
12:02
trying to call top my head on
12:04
the high end. If things go crazy
12:06
again like they did last year, we
12:08
could get the 6,000 home runs, but
12:10
it's going to take a leap of
12:12
faith to go that direction. I'm not
12:14
saying we're getting the 6,000, but it
12:16
is in the realm of possibility. But
12:18
again, I don't believe the ball is
12:20
juiced. you can see if you go
12:22
to the drag dashboard at baseball savant
12:24
you can see there's actually more drag
12:26
on the baseball right now but we
12:29
can't see we don't have an easy
12:31
way to measure the coefficient of restitution
12:33
on how that ball reacts once the
12:35
but once the bat strikes the ball
12:37
so we look at contact data to
12:39
try to get the best get and
12:41
contact data we're not seeing that much
12:43
of a difference either right on things
12:45
so Again, I don't feel the ball
12:47
is used. I also don't feel that
12:49
the torpedo bat is a magic elixir.
12:51
The torpedo bat needs a second ingredient
12:54
and that's called really crappy Milwaukee pitching
12:56
to get there and to really take
12:58
off. And there was a really good
13:00
article at baseball prospectus about it and
13:02
somebody was like, yeah, the torpedo bats
13:04
work if you're throwing 80 poo right
13:06
over the middle of the plate. And
13:08
these guys are crushing it. So I
13:10
forget the author, I wish I could
13:12
credit them. the growth factor and I
13:14
found this part of it interesting that
13:16
you had a high average and a
13:18
low based on the growth factors what
13:21
that you've seen over the past couple
13:23
of years or over certain periods how
13:25
were the those those possibilities from high
13:27
to low for in-season growth of home
13:29
runs developed. I just took an average,
13:31
I just basically was like, okay, over
13:33
that over the sample size from 2016
13:35
and 2024, what was the lowest in
13:37
season Delta that we saw for early
13:39
played appearance was divided by home runs
13:41
over the end and then and that
13:43
happened in 2021. And then I looked
13:46
at the high end that which I
13:48
said was last year 10.2% so I
13:50
took what was at the time what
13:52
the league was on pace for and
13:54
then just ran the numbers from there
13:56
to say where are we at and
13:58
at. for the article on the low
14:00
end 5,61 home runs, which was about
14:02
160 more than what we saw last
14:04
year. And then on the very high
14:06
end, 6,096, which will be the fourth
14:08
highest total ever in a season. So
14:10
just based off what we've seen year
14:13
every year, that's where I ran the
14:15
numbers and just said, you know, what's
14:17
what are we on pace for? And
14:19
the conclusion you said was. we should
14:21
assume as a fact that 2025 is
14:23
gonna have more home runs than the
14:25
5400-ish that we had last season. Now
14:27
the question is, how do we as
14:29
fantasy managers take this fact of more
14:31
abundant home runs into our consideration and
14:33
planning as we go through this season?
14:35
The odd part of it? Normally we
14:38
would say, okay, more home runs equals
14:40
more runs and that's going to affect
14:42
our, you know, our runs or whatever
14:44
we projected was going to be for
14:46
what we needed for the runs category,
14:48
what we needed for our BIs and
14:50
how our pitchers were going to be
14:52
impacting ERA. But here's the, here's the
14:54
curveball Patrick. We're actually seeing fewer runs
14:56
per game scored right now than we
14:58
were at this point last year. And
15:00
this point last year, we are all
15:02
bitching about there's no offense and baseball.
15:05
These games are low scoring and these
15:07
games are low scoring and nothing. this
15:09
time last season we're 4.3 right now
15:11
and you know I you as a
15:13
Reds fan you're like yeah I know
15:15
I got shut out three times last
15:17
week so we're seeing fewer runs per
15:19
game and so more home runs but
15:21
fewer fewer fewer runs per game yet
15:23
the league the legal base percentage is
15:25
only down six points so it's not
15:27
like there's been a giant drop in
15:30
traffic on the bases it's just we
15:32
have a lot of the run and
15:34
Joe Sheehan's written a lot about this
15:36
in his recent newsletters. A lot of
15:38
the runs are attached to home runs.
15:40
And if the home runs aren't being
15:42
hit, the runs aren't being scored. So
15:44
that's really interesting. I would normally say,
15:46
again, more home runs, okay, than me,
15:48
adjust all these things. But until the
15:50
lead starts hitting more singles, start to
15:52
try some more walks, and try to
15:54
get on base, we're gonna see more
15:57
solo shots. And so it may be
15:59
a net zero. Yeah, you say it's
16:01
only a six-point drop in OVP, but
16:03
when you multiply that by, we're already
16:05
at 10,000 plate appearances or something like
16:07
that, and, you know, it doesn't sound
16:09
like six points of OVP's going to
16:11
matter that much, but you had multiplied
16:13
by those 10,000 plate appearances. You're talking
16:15
about quite a few less getting on
16:17
base situations and ergo... maybe a lot
16:19
more solo home runs rather than, you
16:22
know, two on and three RBI's kind
16:24
of home runs. Right. And so it's
16:26
even again, looking at the numbers this
16:28
morning that I have that aren't in
16:30
the article, it was a four point
16:32
difference is selected percentage. I mentioned the
16:34
six point difference in OVP, but then
16:36
we have a seven point difference in
16:38
batting average. And again, last year, we're
16:40
like, where are the hits? The league
16:42
is currently hitting two 35. You know,
16:44
let's think back a couple of years
16:46
ago, we're banning the shift. That should
16:49
improve batting average. That's going to improve
16:51
this. What has it? It's like if
16:53
we're hitting 235 and the league doesn't
16:55
start digging out this whole soon, we
16:57
may have the lowest first month batting
16:59
average in recent history. And that's how
17:01
bad things have been right now with
17:03
this. So I don't know if we
17:05
need. you know more guys that will
17:07
hit all fields like please bring back
17:09
each year and Tony Gwyn I know
17:11
I know those at the high end
17:14
but it's one of the reasons why
17:16
I've enjoyed watching Jake Mangam from the
17:18
race he hits to all fields as
17:20
like you get a pitch in the
17:22
outside fine I'm gonna flick it and
17:24
go the other way and get on
17:26
base but we need to have more
17:28
guys focused on just getting on base
17:30
rather than trying to elevate and celebrate
17:32
because at right now it's getting tough
17:34
I mean we all love baseball we're
17:36
happy it's bad but the league hit
17:38
in 235 and sitting around waiting for
17:41
home runs is kind of eventually grow,
17:43
wear on us, not grow on us,
17:45
unless what we don't want, but it's
17:47
gonna wear, it's gonna wear us down.
17:49
Getting back to the question of, okay,
17:51
we assume that there's going to be
17:53
more home runs, I'm thinking back to,
17:55
you remember, 6,000 home run season, the
17:57
first one was in 2017. Right. And
17:59
I had Justin Smoke that year on
18:01
my roster. He hit 38, which was
18:03
a career high. And a lot of
18:06
guys had career high home run totals
18:08
that year. Charlie Blackman hit 37, Scope
18:10
hit 32. Logan Morrison of the race.
18:12
38. 38. Never anywhere near that. In
18:14
any other year, George Springer had 34.
18:16
That was his career high even up
18:18
till now. The thinking at the time
18:20
was that the happy fun ball was
18:22
adding, you know, 10 feet or 8
18:24
feet or something like that. to the
18:26
batted ball distances, which would seem to
18:28
benefit a guy like Smoke, because he's
18:30
got a lot of warning track power,
18:33
but not like John Carlos Stanton type
18:35
power. And so 10 extra feet, if
18:37
it's going to land halfway up the
18:39
warning track, 10 extra feet puts it
18:41
just over the fence, and thus he
18:43
gets the benefit of 14 extra home
18:45
runs a year. Whereas Staten's hitting 450
18:47
foot home runs, now they're 460 foot
18:49
home runs, but they're not more home
18:51
runs. What do we know now about
18:53
which players are going to benefit the
18:55
shape of the home run growth? Honestly,
18:58
I don't think we do know. So
19:00
we mentioned that we're on pace for
19:02
more home runs this year with that,
19:04
but we don't have enough data. So
19:06
let's let's remember. We have two brand
19:08
new ballparks. in the sample set that
19:10
we didn't have last year, and we
19:12
have an adjusted ballpark in Baltimore. I
19:14
would say watching the race game last
19:16
night, there were six home runs. They
19:18
were all hit by right-handed batters, and
19:20
they all went to right field. They
19:22
about that what you will, but that's
19:25
not how games were played in Tropicana
19:27
Field. You rarely saw opposite field home
19:29
runs. by right handers in the right
19:31
field, but all six home runs yesterday
19:33
were to right center or right field.
19:35
Two of them were unicorn, including the
19:37
Jose Caballero Grand Slam, was a unicorn
19:39
slam, would have been out in no
19:41
other park. And I mentioned a no
19:43
other park piece because Tom Tango has
19:45
talked about on social media where Yankee
19:47
Stadium and Georgetown Breiter field are identical
19:50
in dimensions, but the playing surface is
19:52
slightly different. Like it's not. Flat it
19:54
was like one of these things like
19:56
what are you talking about? It's not
19:58
a hundred. It's not a 100% match
20:00
So if you see it says one
20:02
of 30 like wait a second. Why
20:04
is why is Yankee Stadium and George
20:06
Steinbren are considered two different dimensions? It's
20:08
because they are there's a little bit
20:10
of a ground difference as playing into
20:12
playing into that, but that's where it
20:14
was interesting. So I want to see
20:17
more data and that's honestly when I
20:19
look back at everything else I would
20:21
put more credence to the new stadiums
20:23
and the new dimensions in Baltimore impacting
20:25
what we're seeing for home runs right
20:27
now than torpedo bats. That's just that
20:29
that's me because the torpedo bats The
20:31
Yankees have been rather quiet and now
20:33
the weather is cold now we'll see
20:35
what happens as the weather warms up.
20:37
But we don't hear a lot of
20:39
torpedo bat talk anymore. It was it
20:41
was all the rage early on because
20:44
it was new and it was on
20:46
the heels of Stanton having a great
20:48
postseason when he was using a great
20:50
postseason having a great postseason when he
20:52
was using one of those bats. But
20:54
you know, right now it's we mentioned
20:56
Caribbean Paris earlier, he's not using the
20:58
batler, Maybe he won't be, but so
21:00
far he is the probably the best
21:02
hitting story that we're seeing right now,
21:04
because only he and Jazz Chisholm have
21:06
as many as four homers and four
21:09
stolen bases this season. You talked earlier
21:11
about the temperatures and maybe that of
21:13
course they're having an effect on ball
21:15
flight, but from my recollection, colder air
21:17
is denser air, which makes it harder
21:19
for the ball to push through to
21:21
get to a home run. On the
21:23
other hand, the denser error amplifies the
21:25
backspin effect of keeping the ball aloft.
21:27
What's the net? Is there an actual
21:29
net on it? We can see, and
21:31
previous stuff are right, not that I've
21:33
done any of the studies like Dr.
21:36
Allen Nathan or whatnot, but... We know
21:38
if you just look at home run,
21:40
like even just take something that's basically
21:42
is home run to fly ball and
21:44
do it by a monthly split. You
21:46
see it's low, you see it gets
21:48
high in the summer, and then it
21:50
wanes at the end of the season.
21:52
So we know there's some adjustment coming.
21:54
That's why a lot of the times
21:56
you see, oh, the ball is juiced,
21:58
it's gonna be huge because people always
22:01
think this early sample size is too
22:03
small, and there's nothing to put into
22:05
it. I disagree because again that's why
22:07
I write this article every year it
22:09
lines up it gives you a good
22:11
idea it's not an exact science but
22:13
it points you in a good direction
22:15
of what we can expect and that's
22:17
why I like taking a look at
22:19
these at these early sample because you
22:21
want to You and I were talking
22:23
hockey off air before. It's like the
22:25
old Greske quote, you want to go
22:28
to where the pucks are going, not
22:30
where it's at. And that's why I
22:32
always like try to look at these
22:34
particular things to say, okay, where are
22:36
things trending? How can I adjust my
22:38
fantasy team or my expectations on what
22:40
I need to win my league based
22:42
up what we're seeing in the early
22:44
data? You're listening to Baseball HQ Radio
22:46
Patrick Davitt with Jason Collette from Roadowire
22:48
and The Sleeper in the Bus podcast
22:50
and Jason in your Collette calls column
22:53
last week you looked into where have
22:55
all the base hits gone? What prompted
22:57
you to think about that and look
22:59
into it? I believe it was watching
23:01
your Reds play. But we've seen a
23:03
few no-hitter alerts and actually in the
23:05
middle of while I was writing that
23:07
article, Martine Perez was throwing a no-hitter.
23:09
Martin Perez never through one pitch over
23:11
90 miles an hour and then he
23:13
had a love it. Yeah, love it.
23:15
So that's that's kind of where that
23:17
was going but you know we're seeing
23:20
it once again but it felt like
23:22
we were seeing these one-nothing games and
23:24
all this despite all this talk about
23:26
all here there's more home runs of
23:28
Ball's Jews, then I'm like, really? Because
23:30
every time I turn on a game,
23:32
there's no hits, any no geter alerts
23:34
on a daily basis now. And like
23:36
I said earlier, the league wide batting
23:38
average currently is 235. And this goes
23:40
in the face of what we were
23:42
promised with getting rid of the shift.
23:45
And so I believe that the league
23:47
has put a premium. Like I look
23:49
at my own team. Taylor Walls is
23:51
still out there playing great shortstop, even
23:53
though we can't hit anything. can't hit
23:55
at all but he's out there playing
23:57
great shortstop and so the I think
23:59
the league has made some sacrifices on
24:01
things because even the batting average on
24:03
balls in play currently is 282 last
24:05
year this time was 292 and so
24:07
if you're not shifting and they actually
24:09
put even more emphasis on what shifts
24:12
were allowed and which ones weren't now
24:14
leagues are taking and putting premium defenders
24:16
at spots to make up for that
24:18
and that's what we're seeing play out
24:20
and so I don't know how you
24:22
I mean we have better outfield defense.
24:24
And we talked about this was discussed
24:26
last year, you know, fly balls are
24:28
going are falling in for hits, fewer
24:30
and fewer. And so if ground balls
24:32
are getting through, this is where we're
24:34
at. And I don't, I don't know
24:37
what other lever you pull other than
24:39
limiting bullpens. You know, I was mentioning
24:41
this on blue sky yesterday and somebody
24:43
was, uh, somebody said, well, why don't
24:45
we just limit the number of bullpens?
24:47
So starters don't come out there, eats
24:49
into the strategy of the game. And
24:51
that's why I didn't like banning shifts,
24:53
because I like that strategy. If I'm
24:55
willing to give up the other side
24:57
of the field, fine. So the other
24:59
thing is move the mountain back a
25:01
little bit, because velocity, it's been 60
25:04
feet, six inches forever. And guys, you
25:06
know, Walter Johnson was the hardest thrower
25:08
of his era, and Walter Johnson would
25:10
look like Kyle Hendricks in today's era.
25:12
There was Bob feller though. I mean
25:14
a little later on, but there's sure
25:16
sort of visual proof that he was
25:18
bringing it a hundred and one or
25:20
something along those lines quite a while
25:22
back You wrote that Ellie de la
25:24
Cruz of the Reds was quite unlikely
25:26
to his big stolen base season of
25:29
last year is 60 plus I think.
25:31
Why did you think that LED La
25:33
Cruz in an environment of rising stolen
25:35
base totals and a guy who's a
25:37
very successful stolen base guy by success
25:39
rate was going to decline in that
25:41
stat? So I wrote that up because
25:43
I had listened to Rob Silver come
25:45
on the rotor wire podcast with James
25:47
Anderson and he made it. I thought
25:49
it was such a good point that
25:51
they need to be written out for
25:53
people that weren't listening to the podcast.
25:56
He talked about stolen base opportunities, which
25:58
is something that I've leveraged in my
26:00
writing for a while. And I look
26:02
at it and then try to find,
26:04
okay, here's where the league wide, here's
26:06
where the league wide is, and here's
26:08
where your player is, and how you
26:10
look for players that have more opportunities
26:12
to steal because stolen bases are as
26:14
much about manager intent. as they are
26:16
the opportunity as they are the skill.
26:18
There's multiple equations in play there, right?
26:21
And so when I looked at, when
26:23
I took a look after listening to
26:25
what Rob said, it was, Dela Cruz
26:27
had one of the higher opportunity rates
26:29
in history, not just last year, but
26:31
in history. And that was why you
26:33
take a look at like, wow, okay,
26:35
then that's how he got the 64
26:37
steel. So then you have to ask.
26:39
Can he do that again? Is that
26:41
something he can try to do again?
26:43
And that's really where things got into
26:45
you look at it. I went back
26:48
and looked at previous guys and said,
26:50
okay, what did what did Ricky Henderson
26:52
do? What did Timorines do? What did
26:54
Timorines do? What did I went back
26:56
and looked at all these other speedsters?
26:58
And it was like, yeah, I absolutely
27:00
get where Rob's coming from. That said,
27:02
every projection set had illegal cruise for
27:04
50 steals for 50 steals. And so
27:06
that's like, okay, that's still great. 50
27:08
seals would have led the American League
27:10
last year if he was in the
27:13
America League. So that's where it's still
27:15
good but trying to get trying to
27:17
say okay he stole 60 and saying
27:19
okay he's gonna go further this is
27:21
why projection systems regress by nature. It's
27:23
like you'll get something that's like okay
27:25
we take a look at the last
27:27
three and this is why projection systems
27:29
were putting them in the 50s. It
27:31
wasn't because we hate We know he
27:33
likes to run. We know he has
27:35
elite speed. But then we look so
27:37
far this season, he's had seven stolen
27:40
base opportunities. It is attempted three. Now
27:42
last year at that rate, that would
27:44
have been six. That's how often he
27:46
was running last year. But this year,
27:48
he's had all those opportunities and has
27:50
not run. I would compare that to
27:52
somebody like Boboushet. Bobous has had 36
27:54
opportunities to steal a base. He's attempted
27:56
one and was caught. So it's and
27:58
the other piece of the equation with
28:00
with Ellie Della Cruz is new manager.
28:02
Yes, he is Terry Francona. Francona has
28:05
had a history of enjoying the running
28:07
game. But you know, we have Terry
28:09
Francona also had a layoff. He's been
28:11
out of the game for a little
28:13
bit. Now he's coming back. Is he
28:15
the same old Terry? So there was
28:17
those factors and so that's why I'd
28:19
like when Rob made that point. I
28:21
was like, Again, trying to think differently.
28:23
That said, I did take Elliott Cruz
28:25
fourth overall in the aforementioned Road O'ROC.
28:27
He was there. I like the overall
28:29
talent and I took him. So I'm
28:32
not saying, bait him out, run out
28:34
of the first round. Rob was saying
28:36
that out of the first round, Rob
28:38
was saying that out of the first
28:40
round picks, Elliott Cruz is the one
28:42
he feels is most likely to not
28:44
be a first round talent at the
28:46
end of the end of the season.
28:48
And that's a fair art he laid
28:50
out. He laid out. He laid out.
28:52
He laid out. He laid out. He
28:54
laid out. He laid out. He laid
28:57
out. He laid out. He laid out.
28:59
He laid out. He laid out. He
29:01
laid out. He laid out. He laid
29:03
out. He laid out. He laid out.
29:05
He laid out. He laid out. He
29:07
laid out. He laid out. He laid
29:09
out. He laid out. He laid out.
29:11
He laid out. He laid out. He
29:13
laid out. He laid out. He Yeah,
29:15
I think I took him fifth overall
29:17
in a draft. On the Sleeper and
29:19
the Bust pod, you and Justin Mason
29:21
talked about Mike Soroca's bicep strain and
29:24
nobody's that tremendously interested Mike Soroca, but
29:26
you made another point in that you
29:28
said you're going to cut him in
29:30
a league that you're rebuilding in. He's
29:32
on your roster, you can't afford to
29:34
keep my guess. Is two weeks of
29:36
a season enough to make the decision
29:38
to go full rebuild? Are you comfortable?
29:40
And it really depends on different context.
29:42
So like in that case, often when
29:44
Justin and I are talking, we're talking
29:46
about an FBC format because so many
29:49
of our listeners are in that format.
29:51
seven man bench, no reserves. So it's
29:53
like, okay, do I want to carry
29:55
this guy or come? In that context,
29:57
that's where it comes from cutting him.
29:59
But I will say I also have
30:01
him in another league and I've decided
30:03
to, I already mentioned XFL, there's no
30:05
chance, it's rebuild, there's no chance, it's
30:07
a dynasty, I need to play for
30:09
the future. But I would also say,
30:11
this is also a skill that I
30:13
want to work on is like, I
30:16
often will think about the worth carrying
30:18
Mike Soroque on the injured list and
30:20
picking up somebody and trying to find
30:22
somebody or trying to get a couple
30:24
of pictures so I can get, I'll
30:26
pick up a two-star guy this week
30:28
and I'll fab a guy who's on
30:30
a two-star coming up on a two-star
30:32
week and then try to stack things
30:34
that direction with that. So that's another
30:36
thing to consider too and that leads
30:38
to one of the... boons, my pitching
30:41
boom. But that's the concept. It's like
30:43
looking at the next couple of weeks
30:45
rather than saying, I lost this guy,
30:47
who can be this guy for the
30:49
rest of the season? In technology, we
30:51
call, if you have multiple solutions, we
30:53
call it Frankenstein. It's like, how can
30:55
I Franken stack a new Mike Soroca?
30:57
Can I find this guy, that guy,
30:59
that guy, that guy, rather than trying
31:01
to go out and replace him as
31:03
a whole with one person for the
31:05
rest of the rest of the season?
31:08
Yeah. I was thinking when I heard
31:10
you guys talking about it though, Mike
31:12
Soroca is not any kind of all-star
31:14
type pitcher, a guy's gonna win you,
31:16
your fantasy league. If this bicep strain
31:18
had have affected a much better pitcher,
31:20
Zach Wheeler or somebody like that, would
31:22
you still be comfortable cutting him or
31:24
is there a threshold of base talent
31:26
that you're willing to say I'm gonna
31:28
hang on to this guy just because
31:30
he's too good not to. Yeah, that's
31:32
a very valid question. That's a very
31:35
valid question. And yes, if it was
31:37
a better pitcher, then it would have
31:39
been a different story. But Mike Soroko...
31:41
was an end game spec so it's
31:43
easy to do that. You know our
31:45
good friend Corey Schwartz and Mike Siano
31:47
back in the fantasy 401 days used
31:49
to just say take a calendar to
31:51
flip it over right so your 23rd
31:53
round pick give him three weeks if
31:55
he sucks get rid of him your
31:57
first round pick you're pretty much holding
32:00
him unless something drastic happens. So if
32:02
you're looking at performance issues but you
32:04
know with these pitching injuries you also
32:06
you know one of my things is
32:08
I never trust the initial. the initial
32:10
analysis. Oh, this guy's gonna be out
32:12
two weeks. Okay, sure. Historically, I have
32:14
learned that just double that number and
32:16
another two to three weeks like Sean
32:18
Manaya was supposed to be just about
32:20
back now. Well, guess what? He has
32:22
set back. It's another few weeks. So
32:24
I never take that. It's another few
32:27
weeks. So I never take that initial
32:29
projection for when a guy's gonna come
32:31
back. But if we're talking about a
32:33
guy took at the end game and
32:35
he's already showing her, I'm moving. Yeah,
32:37
I've heard that philosophy too. I think
32:39
Phil DeSoe uses it in the MFPC
32:41
main events those last three pitchers are
32:43
deliberately designed to churn and burn because
32:45
you can't fall in love with them
32:47
I mean if you're lucky one of
32:49
them turns out to be you know
32:52
some kind of great player and you
32:54
pat yourself on the back for your
32:56
acumen when in fact it was just
32:58
pure blind luck, but a lot of
33:00
us have to rely on our pure
33:02
blind luck where we can get it
33:04
in a larger sense Jason Jason It's
33:06
very early in this and this and
33:08
that, but how are you managing the
33:10
rebuild using what you can do in
33:12
24 weeks of the remaining season? So
33:14
I would say first off, you have
33:16
to swallow your pride and realize that,
33:19
okay, this is not going to be
33:21
the hardest thing for a lot of
33:23
people. I would say secondly, who cares
33:25
what everybody else thinks? You know, especially
33:27
if it's a dynasty league. You're trying
33:29
to make your team better for the
33:31
future. and it's a dynasty league, it's
33:33
automatically, you're playing for the future and
33:35
no trade should be looked at in
33:37
the vacuum of season. with that and
33:39
I know some leagues have put in
33:41
salary caps and what not to try
33:44
to limit some of that whatever but
33:46
if as long as I'm playing within
33:48
the constraints of those rules I honestly
33:50
don't care what you think about what
33:52
I'm doing about what I'm doing about
33:54
my team like one of my my
33:56
old home league from college one of
33:58
the guy that my old home league
34:00
from college one of the guy that
34:02
ran the commissioner brian he had a
34:04
five-year span where he was either first
34:06
or last and it was beautiful and
34:08
it and it and it He went
34:11
saberhagan metrics one it lost one lost
34:13
one it was beautiful but again you
34:15
have to swallow your pride don't care
34:17
what anybody else thinks and do what's
34:19
bet what you think is best for
34:21
your team for the future and XFL
34:23
I'm 14 you know I'm looking up
34:25
in the standings and I see Jeff
34:27
Erickson didn't think he was going to
34:29
contend and there he is in second
34:31
place and I see that he has
34:33
two points in saves I'm holding Tanner
34:36
Scott Jeff and I need to make
34:38
a deal. So it's like I'm trying
34:40
to look for who I can help
34:42
move in the standings while benefiting my
34:44
team for the long run. But again,
34:46
don't take the feedback as long as
34:48
you're playing within the constraints of your
34:50
league rules. Do what's best for you.
34:52
And if people are bitching about it,
34:54
let them bitch about it. It's a
34:56
keeper league in dynasty. If they don't
34:58
want that, tell them to go to
35:00
a reset league. That's the only way
35:03
to fix this. Yeah, I played in
35:05
a home league where we ran into
35:07
dumping troubles and we basically made a
35:09
rule that said if any player is
35:11
traded in season, he becomes a free
35:13
agent at the end of that season.
35:15
And so there's no there was no
35:17
such thing as dump trading anymore where
35:19
you're swapping your Alex Rodriguez for three
35:21
prospects and you know stuff like that.
35:23
So because everybody went became a free
35:25
agent at the after. But then did
35:28
you see because I've seen this other
35:30
I also see teams become absolute dead
35:32
weight where they're not making lineup or
35:34
not doing anything because they've lost the
35:36
incentive to do anything. Right and so
35:38
that's that even if I'm a 14th
35:40
place team I'm gonna make sure I
35:42
have an active lineup every week I'm
35:44
gonna go out and I'm gonna pick
35:46
up I'm gonna put things in because
35:48
I also like being a disruptor you
35:50
know even I mentioned earlier that I've
35:52
had a little bit of a slump
35:55
and a lot I've changed my line
35:57
of I've made trades I've tried to
35:59
get into categories like okay if I
36:01
can bump up steals then I can
36:03
make a difference and Patrick is trying
36:05
to chase Dave Adler and I can
36:07
I can do something here to make
36:09
a difference to make them sweat it
36:11
out I'm still trying to do that
36:13
and so I'm I'm against anything that
36:15
disincentivizes participating and making a difference. I
36:17
know sometimes there's punitive damages like I'm
36:20
aware of one league where you're paying
36:22
out, you're paying a bigger fine to
36:24
if you finish in the bottom three
36:26
type of situation. I've seen some of
36:28
those things, but I'm all for whatever
36:30
we can do to incentivize every team
36:32
in a league competing from start to
36:34
finish throughout the season because it makes
36:36
a difference. I've seen I've been in
36:38
a league where a guy lost by
36:40
one single strikeout. And if somebody else
36:42
would have had another guy could have
36:44
passed that one strike up wouldn't matter.
36:47
But we've seen I want to leave
36:49
one year where in that one 2011
36:51
2013 whatever the league the year was
36:53
where the White Sox and Twins had
36:55
to play a playing game and another
36:57
game. Somebody got thrown out at home
36:59
that won me the lead because that
37:01
run would have scored would have tied
37:03
us and my half a point lead
37:05
would have been a half a point
37:07
deficit. So these things matter and that's
37:09
why I encourage everybody it always. frustrates
37:12
me when I'm looking to standings and
37:14
seeing teams that haven't made any free
37:16
agent moves, have it made any lineup
37:18
moves or carrying guys with red crosses.
37:20
And it's like, what are you doing?
37:22
I, you know, it means something to
37:24
the rest of us in here. Please
37:26
do something. I think part of the
37:28
problem is that guys are in so
37:30
many leagues that as they get later
37:32
in the season, they say, well, I'm
37:34
11th and this one, I'm going nowhere.
37:36
I'm just not going to devote any
37:39
time to this anymore because I've got
37:41
four teams of my 24 teams that
37:43
I'm running that are competing for top
37:45
spot and I'm going to devote my
37:47
scarce time resources to that and I
37:49
don't think that's fair to anybody else.
37:51
all the leagues where you're not doing
37:53
that and it just seems like a
37:55
thrown off you know what at the
37:57
wall and you see what part of
37:59
it sticks and that those four leagues
38:01
that you're doing well and get the
38:04
good treatment and all the rest of
38:06
them get thrown to the wayside despite
38:08
the impact that it has as you
38:10
quite accurately described as being a negative
38:12
impact on the rest of the league
38:14
and the competitiveness of it and so
38:16
forth. What we did in that home
38:18
league was we instituted we called it
38:20
the lottery and everybody at the start
38:22
of the year through in fifty bucks
38:24
extra over over and above the the
38:26
fee to join and then at the
38:28
end of the year the bottom two
38:31
teams didn't get the money back everybody
38:33
else did and then the hundred bucks
38:35
was lotteryed off to the five through
38:37
12 teams. The point was don't finish
38:39
11th or 12th because you're gonna lose
38:41
that 50 bucks that you put in
38:43
at the start of the year. And
38:45
the other thing we did, and these
38:47
are ideas that anybody can put into
38:49
their league, is we changed the order
38:51
of our farm draft so that fifth
38:53
picked first rather than 12th. We do
38:56
on my leagues too. And then you
38:58
saw five through 12 and then four
39:00
through one. There are ways to create
39:02
that incentive for sure and it's always
39:04
a balancing act. You have to talk
39:06
about it with your league members and
39:08
say last year such and such a
39:10
guy seemed to throw in the towel
39:12
early and if he had kept competing
39:14
it might have affected the race for
39:16
better or for worse for other players.
39:18
And how do we feel about that?
39:20
and sometimes the rest of your league
39:23
mates are going to go that's the
39:25
way it is and we'll play it
39:27
that way and if you don't like
39:29
that then you have to find a
39:31
different league I guess there's lots of
39:33
ways to doing it. You can do
39:35
categorical payouts. You know, I'm in two
39:37
leagues, they do categorical payouts. So if
39:39
you, maybe your last place, but you
39:41
get first place in steals and first
39:43
place in runs, there's, there's some money
39:45
back. Everybody's got a shot at winning
39:48
some money, because I know that sometimes
39:50
it's like, all right, it's sunken cost,
39:52
I've already paid my league fee, I'm
39:54
not going to win any money, why
39:56
should I? argument, but then prioritize your
39:58
leagues that you're doing well in, but
40:00
you can't totally ignore the ones you
40:02
weren't because you made a commitment to
40:04
anywhere from nine to 14 other individuals
40:06
that you are going to be a
40:08
part of this this league and you're
40:10
doing something. So again, I don't care
40:12
if my team's in the last place.
40:15
I am still going in there making
40:17
sure I'm trying to do whatever I
40:19
can to improve my team on a
40:21
week by week basis and make a
40:23
difference in the standings. And that's the
40:25
kind of commitment to something, then find
40:27
another league or reduce your leagues. But
40:29
yeah, there is some strategy behind, okay,
40:31
it's fantasy football season, everybody's focused on
40:33
that. Let me try to make up
40:35
some make up some ground in August.
40:37
Absolutely. It's happened. I've wanted drafting hold
40:40
on that because a couple of teams
40:42
just forgot. Oh, crap. It's September and
40:44
they're all worried about their football. It's
40:46
like, please and thank you. I'll take
40:48
the advantage of that, but I don't
40:50
enjoy leagues where I just see dead.
40:52
dead activity and no activity from people
40:54
that could make a difference in the
40:56
standings. I'm trying to do what I
40:58
can and I'm sitting there looking at
41:00
them just whistling as the season goes
41:02
on. It's like do something. You mentioned
41:04
that sometimes you have to kind of
41:07
keep a stiff upper lip when other
41:09
people in your league are complaining about
41:11
what you're doing to rebuild your team,
41:13
gather draft picks and gather prospects and
41:15
so forth. I was in a league
41:17
once where I made a trade partway
41:19
through the year and the basis of
41:21
the trade was a guy wasn't going
41:23
to get his innings. He was going
41:25
to lose all his points in our
41:27
own ratio. So I traded him three,
41:29
you know, middling starters. It didn't affect
41:32
my position any end. I got back
41:34
a pretty good player who actually didn't
41:36
do anything much done the stretch for
41:38
me anyway, but there was a pretty
41:40
big hue and cry in the league
41:42
and I don't know, I just had
41:44
to suck it up, but I didn't
41:46
like being everybody's enemy, you know what
41:48
I mean? So how do you deal
41:50
with that? There's a couple of ways
41:52
to go around it because you make
41:54
the good argument there. It's like, okay,
41:56
this guy is going to fall well
41:59
short of his innings. offer him volume
42:01
and he realized, okay, like, I need
42:03
to get there. Otherwise, I'm going to
42:05
be completely last and maybe they'll be
42:07
kicks me out. So it's like, I
42:09
need to get to that point. So
42:11
you have, you know, allow people to
42:13
make it argument because the worst thing
42:15
you could do is assume somebody's operating
42:17
a bad faith. That's that's what it
42:19
comes down to. And because again, you've
42:21
decided to join these these other managers
42:23
and you want to make sure it's
42:26
like. you're doing it for camaraderie you're
42:28
doing it for competition but the last
42:30
thing you should do is assuming somebody
42:32
is acting in bad faith with it
42:34
so i've seen some other league rules
42:36
where it's like you have to post
42:38
somebody it's like i and i will
42:40
do this like if i'm gonna rebuild
42:42
somebody's gonna come after me for some
42:44
guys i will tell the league i
42:46
have some competitive offers for a tanner
42:48
Scott I will be making a decision
42:51
in the next 24 to 48 hours.
42:53
If you're interested, reach out. And that's
42:55
that's something I like to do or
42:57
in CBS you can go put on
42:59
the block and say I am considering
43:01
I have a I have a very
43:03
competitive offer for this player. I am
43:05
pulling the trigger in 24 hours unless
43:07
somebody speaks up. You don't have to
43:09
tell them what the offer is just
43:11
say. I'm just that way because a
43:13
lot of the times the reaction to
43:15
these types of moves and leads. is
43:18
jealousy. It's not that the trade was
43:20
bad, it's like, if I would have
43:22
known that guy was available, I would
43:24
have jumped all over that. So that's
43:26
usually the root cause of the argument
43:28
is that I didn't know that guy
43:30
was available, I could have done better.
43:32
Well, all you do is ask. It's
43:34
not your fault that you asked that
43:36
person, hey, I've got a bunch of
43:38
volume, could you give me this and
43:40
I'll give you the guys that'll get
43:43
you to your endings on it. Nobody
43:45
else asked. Sometimes it's as plain as
43:47
that. The league ended up changing the
43:49
innings rule anyway, so it ended up
43:51
not mattering in the fullness of time.
43:53
But things change. You're listening to BaseballHQ
43:55
Radio Patrick Davitt with Jason Collette from
43:57
Rota Wire in the Sleeper in the
43:59
Bus podcast. Recently, you and Justin Mason
44:01
were talking about the Milwaukee rotation, which
44:03
might be in the grimest shape of
44:05
any rotation I've ever seen because of
44:07
all those injuries. last one being Nestor
44:10
Cortez, is there any short or long-term
44:12
fantasy opportunity here with this collapsed rotation?
44:14
I'm not sure and let's let's be
44:16
real it wasn't in great shape before
44:18
the season. Sorry. It was it was
44:20
Freddy Peralta is almost like the old
44:22
Eddie Fainer king in his court it
44:24
was pretty Peralta and a bunch of
44:26
what. And I say this is somebody
44:28
who is always appreciative for Tobias Myers
44:30
because he's what brought Junior Camonero to
44:32
the race. All right so I like
44:35
that are but like you scroll down
44:37
and look at the depth chart. The
44:39
good news is Milwaukee has a six-man
44:41
rotation. The bad news, that's their I.L.
44:43
That's why I think so those guys
44:45
are. And I honestly wasn't counting on
44:47
much from Woodruff this year. I saw
44:49
him getting drafted. I did like Ashby
44:51
on a rebound, but then hers oblique
44:53
very early in spring training. Sabali is
44:55
what he is. That's a hamstring injury.
44:57
So you have to figure that Ashby
44:59
and Sabali at a minimum and Tobias
45:02
Myers. They should be back here by
45:04
the end of the end of the
45:06
end of the month. Hopefully. And so
45:08
that will give some more rotation. But
45:10
I look at this, I saw the
45:12
move that Milwaukee made to get Quinn
45:14
Priester and gave up a competitive pick
45:16
like good for Boston for taking advantage
45:18
of that situation. So I think I
45:20
believe, yeah, Quinn. Priester pitches against Colorado
45:22
in Denver today. And last night's score
45:24
was a big number. Tyler Alexander had
45:27
to wear it. Some middle reliever picked
45:29
up a win last night because I
45:31
was watching that game as I went
45:33
to sleep. It was 10 to in
45:35
the fifth, sixth inning and Jared Koenig
45:37
was pitching at that point. So I
45:39
don't know if there's much opportunity there.
45:41
It's just you have to hope that
45:43
I know Chad Patrick's had had a
45:45
decent, but they've got Arizona coming up
45:47
and that's where he's where he's pitching.
45:49
Basically, the best opportunity is if you
45:51
can get a Savali or a Myers
45:54
or an Ashby, if they happen to
45:56
be dropped in a league, always check
45:58
your free agent, especially in FBC, check
46:00
it and try to get ahead of
46:02
that. If you have the bench depth
46:04
where you can eat an injury for
46:06
a week or two, try to get
46:08
them now. when they're out of mind
46:10
before next week when all of a
46:12
sudden they're on rehab assignments, okay, I'm
46:14
gonna go get them in that same
46:16
podcast Justin Mason mentioned that the Tigers
46:19
broadcasters really liked catcher Dylan Dingler and
46:21
everybody make their boogie nights joke now
46:23
and we'll get on with things. But
46:25
my question is Jason, how much weight
46:27
do you put on player observations that
46:29
are coming from? the announcers in the
46:31
broadcast booth because they're close to the
46:33
team sometimes. They are. They're close to
46:35
the team. You know, they will having
46:37
been in that environment. Now it's been
46:39
10 years since I was in that
46:41
Tampa Bay environment, but the media dining
46:43
room, so there's a there was a
46:46
media dining room that was across the
46:48
concourse on the 200 level of Tropicana
46:50
field, and you could go in there
46:52
and the the Wayne Statz and Brian
46:54
Anderson could be in there sitting next
46:56
to Neil Solon's and Dave Wills and
46:58
Andy. I'm trying to blank free free.
47:00
So everybody is in the. everybody's in
47:02
there and so they're all talking to
47:04
one another so it wouldn't surprise you
47:06
not surprise our beat rider Mark Tompkin
47:08
could be there and right so the
47:11
beat rider saying something all of a
47:13
sudden that proliferates because before the game
47:15
all those folks can go down into
47:17
the into the lockroom and interview players
47:19
and dugout so it's a lot of
47:21
the same conversations and so yeah I
47:23
and that's one of the things I
47:25
enjoy listening to if I'm in the
47:27
car I would just put any game
47:29
on the radio if the raise heart
47:31
and playing and playing I will listen
47:33
to somebody and they'll talk about a
47:35
disguise looking at a new pitch last
47:38
night on the broadcast the race broadcast
47:40
brought up the fact that the angels
47:42
have lowered Kakuchi's arm slot and they
47:44
had a really nice graphic they took
47:46
all the arm the new arm slot
47:48
graphs that are on baseball savant and
47:50
they showed the history on baseball savant
47:52
and they showed the history of Kakuchi's
47:54
arm slot and they showed the history
47:56
of Kakuchi's arm slot and they showed
47:58
the history of Kakuchi's arm slot and
48:00
they showed the history of the game's
48:03
the guy that I identified in my
48:05
bold predictions here is for Detroit, like,
48:07
hey, keep an eye on this guy.
48:09
There's an opportunity there for him, and
48:11
I took him in the XFL draft
48:13
for I think $4 in November when
48:15
we drafted the XFL, and I do
48:17
have him in two other leagues, being
48:19
drafted the XFL, and I do have
48:21
him in two other leagues, and so
48:23
it's like, cool. That's something that's come
48:25
about, and we'll see where that goes,
48:27
but he's being in the I, but
48:30
he's hit in fifth, he's hit in
48:32
fifth at least twice here and that's
48:34
a good thing. We'll do some things sometimes.
48:36
Yeah, no kidding. You're listening to Baseball HQ
48:38
Radio Patrick Daven with Jason Collette from Roadowire
48:41
and The Sleeper in the Bust podcast and
48:43
Jason, as you know, you've been here many
48:45
times. I like to wrap up these discussions
48:47
by looking at some boons and bains. A
48:50
boon is a player, maybe a slow start,
48:52
got a big future ahead of them, by
48:54
low head of them, by low, by low,
48:56
likely to outper, Well, and this guy to
48:59
me is off to a good start. I
49:01
still like him. And it's Ben Rice of
49:03
the Yankees. Ben Rice, and he hasn't. I
49:06
know he was a late sleeper for a
49:08
lot of folks because there was the chatter
49:10
of him being the second catcher. for this
49:12
team and getting some catcher eligibility. He still
49:15
isn't caught, but he's got two games at
49:17
first base and nine games at DH so
49:19
far. But Ben Rice has been hitting the
49:22
ball extremely well. And if that catcher, if
49:24
you're in a one game catcher eligibility, there's
49:26
still that possibility of that happening. And so
49:28
I've liked, I'd like what I saw from
49:31
Ben Rice last year at the plate. He's
49:33
doing well enough again this year off to
49:35
a good start homer yesterday. because as we
49:38
were talking about earlier, the Yankees had one
49:40
good series at home with good weather, it's
49:42
been cold since, and the bats have been
49:44
quiet, but his bat has still been loud.
49:47
And I wanna see where this is going.
49:49
And so that's where I'm gonna go with
49:51
my boot has been rice. I would say
49:54
like the easy one would be Kyrie, Paris,
49:56
but I'm still having a hard time believing
49:58
this. I'm like, he's doing this and it's
50:00
great that he did the, it's great that
50:03
he went and saw Aaron judges hitting coach,
50:05
but look at the numbers that Khmering Paris
50:07
has had previously. Nothing predicted that this was
50:09
even possible. And here he is doing and
50:12
so when something is this improbable, like I
50:14
just can't. I didn't even put him as
50:16
a bane because it feels too obvious. But
50:19
if he ends up being, I mentioned the
50:21
Lawrence Butler thing earlier, because you remember this
50:23
time last year when I came on this
50:25
podcast, I mentioned Lawrence Butler as a boon,
50:28
as I, you know, he, he wasn't hitting,
50:30
but he was walking and walking is hitting.
50:32
And then Lawrence Butler went on to have
50:35
one of the great, it took him, it
50:37
took him a few weeks, but then one
50:39
of the great, it took him a few
50:41
weeks, but then he got going on to
50:44
have one of the great, it, it took
50:46
him, but then it took him, it took
50:48
him, he took him, his, his, he took
50:51
him, his, his, his, his, his, his, his,
50:53
his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his,
50:55
his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his,
50:57
his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his,
51:00
his, his, his, his, his, his, his, his,
51:02
his, his, his, his, So and this is
51:04
what I was talking about earlier when I
51:07
mentioned trying to replace Mike Soroga and Trying
51:09
to think of looking over the next few
51:11
weeks and not over the course of the
51:13
season And if you know if Nick Pollock
51:16
or any picture list person listens to this
51:18
one I say this name you're gonna scream
51:20
because they have a mean called never Trevor
51:22
But Trevor Williams is doing some things this
51:25
year and it intrigues me and the fact
51:27
that Trevor Williams has a pretty soft schedule
51:29
the next couple of weeks like they have
51:32
the pirates the Marlins and the Rockies the
51:34
next few weeks and I know one of
51:36
those starts is the Rockies is at Denver
51:38
but that's still a soft schedule then they
51:41
have the Orioles who weren't exactly hitting the
51:43
cover off the ball so the next couple
51:45
of weeks it's there. Trevor Williams has been
51:48
throwing some more sweepers and getting some results
51:50
and the early results have looked good and
51:52
so in a 15 teen mixed league and
51:54
a NL league It's worth a late fire
51:57
because again the schedule is there. This is
51:59
not somebody I'm saying take Trevor Williams and
52:01
run within the rest of the season. But
52:04
for the next few weeks, if you're looking
52:06
to buy yourself some time for let's say
52:08
one of those Milwaukee pictures coming back at
52:10
the end of the month, this could be
52:13
a good option for you. Over to the
52:15
Baines. players who maybe are off to too
52:17
hot a start and could be sell highs
52:20
or don't buy highs, who's a bane hitter?
52:22
Nolan Aronado, and I say this, like there's
52:24
the name, this is why I didn't put
52:26
Carmine Parish there, because you have Carmine Parish
52:29
and try to trade him right now, nobody's
52:31
gonna believe it. But Nolan Aronado at least
52:33
has the surface number to be like, oh,
52:35
hey, look, he's back, he's hitting. Well, look
52:38
under the look under the hood, and it,
52:40
and it doesn't look under the. So if
52:42
I have Nolan Aronado, I am trying to
52:45
trade him now, because again, the batting average
52:47
is the only thing that's holding up right
52:49
now. He's hitting 310, 420, 452, and he's
52:51
got four extra base hits, but the quality
52:54
of the contact is not where we want
52:56
to, or it should be for him. And
52:58
that's just reinforcing what we saw last year.
53:01
And so for me, I'm trying to trade
53:03
Aronado and his 300 300 batting average right
53:05
now, the name value plus the early results,
53:07
because I don't like what I'm seeing under
53:10
the I think one of the biggest revolutions
53:12
in fantasy baseball has been the availability of
53:14
quality of contact metrics. A thousand percent. It's
53:17
so great to be able to see because
53:19
we often just had to fly blind all
53:21
this guy's doing that and we could sure
53:23
we could look at hit rate and different
53:26
things but now we could look at quality
53:28
of contact and we know how much of
53:30
a correlation there is between quality of contact
53:33
and outcomes and the quality of contact that
53:35
Aronado has been making is. is not good.
53:37
Are you using blasts and square ups? I
53:39
usually stick at the main player profile on
53:42
Saban to look at some of those and
53:44
then I will look at some of that
53:46
data but the the lollipop sliders is where
53:48
I start and then if something raises my
53:51
eyebrow then I go down and dig a
53:53
dick within that but I like that quick
53:55
easy look to be like hmm. Okay, like
53:58
I would encourage people to go look at
54:00
coming in Paris. Go look at where some
54:02
of his contact are and then look at
54:04
like average. There's a odd mix of red
54:07
and blue. And then go look at Ben
54:09
Rice. It's a lot of red. And so
54:11
that's where it is like, if you have
54:14
that mix of red and blue, then that
54:16
digs you, okay, let me look further down
54:18
and see why there's such a discrepancy, why
54:20
the outcomes, the contact, and like, maybe he's
54:23
just getting lucky. Every fly ball he's hitting
54:25
is going out type of situation. So it's
54:27
a great, I'm not saying don't scroll down,
54:30
just, you know, look, lollipops, okay, move on,
54:32
but you know, start there and move your
54:34
way down. And move your way down. on
54:36
baseball savant on those sliders and in the
54:39
in the text red is good. I grew
54:41
up that red was always bad you know.
54:43
Excel conditional formatting baby. Who's a pitcher could
54:45
be a bane? So and this one pains
54:48
because I like the picture but Nick Pavetta
54:50
I am underwhelmed with what I'm seeing so
54:52
far with him being in San Diego. Nick
54:55
Pavetta has long been fantasy kryptonite for me
54:57
and I you know I look at the
54:59
low walk rate and the strikeout rate but
55:01
I'm not liking what I've seen so far
55:04
from him out of San Diego the fastball
55:06
velocity is down one mile an hour so
55:08
far and he really hasn't made any type
55:11
of nominal change to his repertoire you know
55:13
so far he's like kind of cut out
55:15
the the slider is gone and he's throwing
55:17
more sinkers to that type of thing but
55:20
not a nominal change to anything. But the
55:22
slight drop in velocity so far this season's
55:24
a bit concerning and I don't like, I'm
55:27
expecting more. This isn't the Nick Pavetta that
55:29
we saw last year. So I'm a little
55:31
concerned. But right now is ERAs 270 and
55:33
his whip is one and he has one
55:36
and he has eight strikeouts and ten innings.
55:38
So if you agree with me, then you
55:40
can still trade him kind of like Nolan
55:43
Aronado with this, but we've seen where Nick
55:45
Povetta's previous seasons have gone before before he
55:47
finishes. Jason Collette's Boone's Ben Rice of the
55:49
Yankees and a kind of cautious honorable mention
55:52
for Kyrie Paris, Trevor Williams of the Nationals,
55:54
and his Baines, Nolan Aronado of St. Louis,
55:56
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55:58
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56:30
you but after Immaculate Grid is my morning
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56:46
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like yes and this is where it comes
57:02
to like don't always trust your gut there
57:05
was one particular grid where I was convinced
57:07
I had the right guy in the last
57:09
second I was like you know what wait
57:11
a second there's I have 2% doubt let's
57:14
not use that guy. And it turned out
57:16
afterwards, we finished, we looked it up, we're
57:18
like, good. I was like 24 points off.
57:21
In my head, I had one Samuel hitting
57:23
300 in one season. No, you had 276.
57:25
But I, in my head, I was like,
57:27
that's the guy, no, wait, hold on, let's
57:30
not go that direction. Let's go another direction.
57:32
And it turned out it was right, because
57:34
that would have been like, Great mental exercise
57:37
for me this morning talking with you. It
57:39
always is. I appreciate you taking the time.
57:41
We'll catch up with you again during the
57:43
year. I hope you have good luck in
57:46
all your leagues, except for a total AL,
57:48
of course, and we'll talk to you soon.
57:50
Yeah, thanks, Patrick. We'll touch base again in
57:53
the summer and see how our teams are
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Patrick Davitt. Time now for our
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weekly news review and update and
59:11
here with the latest is Ray
59:14
Murphy of BaseballHQ.com. Ray, welcome back
59:16
to the show. And happy Friday
59:18
to you. Happy Friday, PD. Let's
59:20
start in Texas. The Rangers placed
59:23
Outfielder Wyatt Langford on the 10-day
59:25
I.L. with what they were calling
59:27
a grade one strain of the
59:29
right oblique. Rod Truz-Dell covered this
59:31
for playing time today. And Matt
59:33
Cederholm, not for the first time
59:35
in this edition of Baseball HQ
59:37
Radio's news report. Matt Cederholm
59:40
in the Big Hurt. What's up with
59:42
Langford. Yeah, a lot of the latest
59:44
in the epidemic of oblique injuries,
59:46
right? I think that if there's
59:48
good news here, it's that the
59:50
grades of the oblique strains run
59:52
in the opposite direction of like
59:55
Deaf Khan, right? Deaf Khan one
59:57
is really a really bad nuclear
59:59
war, but... grade one oblique strain
1:00:01
is considered the wildest strain. So
1:00:03
I guess that's good. So the
1:00:06
Rangers are hoping this will be
1:00:08
like the one that Lankford missed
1:00:10
a chunk of spring training for,
1:00:12
but made it back for opening
1:00:14
day. So they're hoping that the
1:00:16
recovery will be decent. He missed
1:00:18
like a week and a half
1:00:20
or two weeks during the spring
1:00:23
because of that. But our Matt Cedar
1:00:25
home, as you say, our big
1:00:27
hurt author. sort of pumped the
1:00:29
brakes and sounded a little more
1:00:31
of a cautionary note obbeaks or
1:00:33
notorious slow healing injuries. I read
1:00:35
I have read enough of Matt's work over
1:00:37
the years to know that I think the
1:00:40
reason for that is that the lack of
1:00:42
blood flow to that area right so
1:00:44
you know it just takes a while
1:00:46
for the healing process to occur and
1:00:49
there's of course risk of re-injury so
1:00:51
we docked Lankford a chunk of playing
1:00:53
time and really all we could do
1:00:55
is monitor and see if he can hit
1:00:58
that two weekish timeline that
1:01:00
the Rangers are promoting but
1:01:02
mad is a little skeptical
1:01:04
of. Well after we're done this part
1:01:07
of the call Ray going to
1:01:09
have Dr. Jim Ferretti on there
1:01:11
you go on the show he's
1:01:13
of course an injuries analyst at
1:01:16
Baseball HQ contributor there and he
1:01:18
says one of the problems with
1:01:20
all injuries in baseball is that
1:01:22
when you go back to the field and
1:01:24
start playing you immediately start using the muscles
1:01:26
and structures that you were using that got
1:01:29
you heard in the first place so during
1:01:31
batting you're trying to twist really hard and
1:01:33
get those muscles working and maybe that's not
1:01:35
going to you can't just decide not to
1:01:37
do that when you're swinging right right there's
1:01:40
no way not to do it is the
1:01:42
problem yeah so when I heard the news
1:01:44
I thought well this could be good news
1:01:46
for my tout wars team I could use
1:01:48
an Evan Carter call-up what are my chances
1:01:51
Seemed not so good right now, at least
1:01:53
until more dominoes fall. Texas did
1:01:55
of course shuffle their roster in
1:01:57
the wake of the Lankford injury,
1:01:59
but Carter was not one of
1:02:02
the call-ups. They have summoned Ezekiel
1:02:04
Duran and Dustin Harris up to
1:02:06
Arlington. They might scrape together
1:02:09
some playing time. Duran is sort
1:02:11
of a utility guy in Harris.
1:02:13
It's an extra out fielder. Jonathan
1:02:15
Amelis was the other guy sent
1:02:17
down in a two for two
1:02:19
transaction sort of here with Langford
1:02:22
just to give the full picture.
1:02:24
But for now, Rod took Langford's
1:02:26
playing time. debit in the outfield
1:02:28
and spread it out between guys
1:02:30
who are already on the roster,
1:02:32
Leo just of Harris and Kevin
1:02:34
Polar. So not a lot of
1:02:36
not a lot of opportunity even
1:02:38
for Harris or Duran and officially
1:02:40
at least no opportunity for Carter.
1:02:42
Yeah and Carter's off to a
1:02:44
terrible start in AAA as well
1:02:46
so I guess I was
1:02:48
wish casting more than being
1:02:51
a sensible analyst. Speaking of
1:02:53
injuries, Brian Buxton. isn't hurt.
1:02:55
And if he stays that
1:02:57
way, Brandon Cruz reminds us
1:02:59
in his facts and flukes
1:03:01
performance validation column this week,
1:03:03
Brian Buxton can be
1:03:05
a fantasy force. Yeah, that's
1:03:07
absolutely true. You have last year,
1:03:09
48 days on the I.L. plus a
1:03:12
fair amount of downtime, even when
1:03:14
he was active. But when he
1:03:16
was in the lineup, he posted
1:03:18
an 859 OPS, which was his
1:03:21
most productive line since 2021, with
1:03:23
a strong batting average rebound
1:03:25
and mostly good skills
1:03:27
bouncebacks as well, not necessarily
1:03:30
all the way back to
1:03:32
peak Byron Buxton levels, but.
1:03:34
Very playable. In particular, the erosion
1:03:37
in the last couple of years
1:03:39
with Buxton had been contact rate.
1:03:41
2023 in particular, content rate had
1:03:43
trended down, was the lowest of
1:03:45
his career going on the way
1:03:47
back to 2016, but it bounced
1:03:49
back nicely last year. So did
1:03:51
the line drive rate. So did
1:03:53
the hard contact rate. Hey, these
1:03:55
are all good things, right? If
1:03:57
you're hitting more line drives, you're
1:03:59
making more. contact concurrently, you're hitting
1:04:01
the ball hard concurrently, that's gonna lead
1:04:03
to a nice spike in good outcomes.
1:04:06
And sure enough, put all those things
1:04:08
together and his batting average jumped by
1:04:10
72 points from what it was in
1:04:13
2023. So that was well supported too,
1:04:15
as you would expect with those underlying
1:04:17
metrics that I was talking about. is
1:04:20
that those all netted out to the
1:04:22
second highest expected batting average of his
1:04:24
career. So kind of all good news
1:04:27
on the what happens when bat meets
1:04:29
ballfront. But despite that, well, the one
1:04:31
thing that didn't really come back to
1:04:34
his peak levels of 2021 and 22
1:04:36
was the power. But if he stays
1:04:38
healthy again this year, I don't think
1:04:41
we would totally rule that out. Sort
1:04:43
of the biggest gating factor there is
1:04:45
he had. slightly fewer fly balls last
1:04:48
year. Of course, fewer fly balls were
1:04:50
good for that batting average rebound we
1:04:52
were talking about because fly balls that
1:04:55
don't go over the fence very rarely
1:04:57
go for hits. So few or five
1:04:59
fly balls meant more line drives, more
1:05:02
ground balls, more batting average, but we
1:05:04
might like to we might trade off
1:05:06
a little more fly ball tilt and
1:05:09
a little less batting average to get
1:05:11
some of that former pretigious buxed and
1:05:13
power back. The exit velocity is still
1:05:16
there and supports that. You know, it
1:05:18
was an elite 92 miles per hour,
1:05:20
strong barrel rate, 13%. All of those
1:05:23
are indicative, like I said, of good
1:05:25
things happening when ball meets bat and
1:05:27
the one missing element for a power
1:05:30
spike is hitting the ball in the
1:05:32
air more often. But sort of back
1:05:34
to the top here PD, the overarching
1:05:37
theme here is how frequently can he
1:05:39
be in the lineup? So that's, you
1:05:41
know, got to be an open question,
1:05:43
I think. Another question that stays open
1:05:46
is that Buxton used to be an
1:05:48
elite stolen base source. He had 29
1:05:50
stolen bases. In 2017, it's kind of
1:05:53
scaled down from there with all the
1:05:55
injuries, and Brandon Cruz, in fact, some
1:05:57
flukes does not seem too hopeful on
1:06:00
that front. Yeah, it's sort of a
1:06:02
similar story to the power skills that
1:06:04
we were just talking about. The good
1:06:07
news is that the raw skills seem
1:06:09
to still be present. His speed score
1:06:11
remains plus. His stack cast sprint speed
1:06:14
is all the way up in the
1:06:16
97th percentile, and over the last five
1:06:18
years. He's been a very efficient base
1:06:21
base dealer 33 for 37. That's 89%
1:06:23
but this then really comes down to
1:06:25
The Jeff Goldblum question, right? You could
1:06:28
steal more bases, but should you? And
1:06:30
that really gets to the ties back
1:06:32
to the injury question, right? I think
1:06:35
the twins over the last several years
1:06:37
have made a conscious decision that you
1:06:39
know in an effort to keep Buxton
1:06:42
in the lineup, which admittedly has been
1:06:44
only partially successful, that they're willing to
1:06:46
trade off the stolen base part of
1:06:49
his game to do that. And I
1:06:51
think that's what we're seeing here. Where
1:06:53
are we here? So, no, that's right.
1:06:56
So Buxton's 31 years old, and the
1:06:58
story, I think we even talked about
1:07:00
this on the show, Ray, is that
1:07:03
he came into this year fully healthy.
1:07:05
his first off-season in a long time
1:07:07
when he didn't have any surgeries, he
1:07:10
didn't have any rehab, and we were
1:07:12
supposed to be optimistic. Yeah, and even,
1:07:14
I think we were talking about it
1:07:17
early in spring training as well, because
1:07:19
we were talking about the normal off-season
1:07:21
and that sort of thing, and then
1:07:23
in the first week of spring training,
1:07:26
is I remember, Buxton stole like two
1:07:28
or three bases, and we're all like,
1:07:30
oh, here he comes, yeah, I remember.
1:07:33
You're only healthy until you're not, right
1:07:35
until you're not, right. or the bottom
1:07:37
line here is these logged only more
1:07:40
than 400 plate appearances only one slate.
1:07:42
back in 2017 when he was a
1:07:44
23-year-old and whatever you're forecasting for him
1:07:47
this year, you have to start with
1:07:49
assuming that he's gonna spend at least
1:07:51
some time on the I.L. So have
1:07:54
a good backup plan, have a flexible
1:07:56
roster, have a plan B, but... While
1:07:58
he's in the lineup enjoy him because
1:08:01
the skills are still there and he
1:08:03
can do You know he can still
1:08:05
do really exciting things on the baseball
1:08:08
field in a number of different ways
1:08:10
That we talked we've talked about the
1:08:12
power the speed the batting average. He's
1:08:15
got all the tools. He just doesn't
1:08:17
have the durability Moving to American League
1:08:19
pitchers in the Arsenal report at BaseballHQ.com,
1:08:22
analyst Corbin Young deep dives the pitch
1:08:24
mixes of pitchers and there are three
1:08:26
of them in this latest edition including
1:08:29
Kansas City left-hander Chris Bubich and Corbin
1:08:31
says Bubich is maintaining some changes in
1:08:33
his arm angle, changes that he made
1:08:36
last season and they helped him be
1:08:38
much more effective and it seems to
1:08:40
be working again this year. It does
1:08:43
and I before we dive into Bubich
1:08:45
Bubich is... pitch mix here I have
1:08:47
to share an anecdote from this article
1:08:50
on the site which ran earlier this
1:08:52
week and the first comment at the
1:08:54
bottom of the article was something to
1:08:56
the to the tune of great information
1:08:59
would have been great to have been
1:09:01
great to have before our draft day
1:09:03
but you know we're talking about early
1:09:06
season pitch mixes like that would have
1:09:08
only been possible with a time machine
1:09:10
right yeah there are a lot of
1:09:13
things I know today I would have
1:09:15
liked to have known on draft day
1:09:17
yeah no kidding right anyway it just
1:09:20
amused me yeah back to boovich You
1:09:22
know, Corbin Young who wrote this article
1:09:24
pointed out that Boobich was one of
1:09:27
his breakout picks in a couple of
1:09:29
other contexts in preseason coverage. And the
1:09:31
early results, Boobich has added some velocity,
1:09:34
he's changed his arm angle, moving his
1:09:36
release point a little closer to his
1:09:38
body, which I guess is a little
1:09:41
counter what we usually think about, you
1:09:43
know, one of the buzz things with
1:09:45
pictures these days, his extension, right? and
1:09:48
trying to get the ball, you know,
1:09:50
sort of out of your hand as
1:09:52
far away from your body as you
1:09:55
can so that you're essentially max, you
1:09:57
know, you're shortening the distance from picture
1:09:59
to hitter as much as you can.
1:10:02
Even a couple of inches makes your
1:10:04
velocity play up, etc. But in this
1:10:06
case, Buba just brought his arm back
1:10:09
closer into his body with the benefit
1:10:11
of, you know, that arm angle change
1:10:13
is... changing the vertical break and pitch,
1:10:16
you know, generating more movement and therefore
1:10:18
more wiffs. So just another example of,
1:10:20
you know, these pitching labs these days,
1:10:23
there are just so many levers you
1:10:25
can pull and so much, you know,
1:10:27
individualized analysis and tweaking you can do.
1:10:30
It's not a that we call them
1:10:32
pitching labs, not pitching factories, right, because
1:10:34
they're not just doing the same thing
1:10:36
to everybody there. They're really personalizing and
1:10:39
trying to take what a particular picture
1:10:41
does well and do it better or
1:10:43
what they're not good at and fix
1:10:46
it essentially, but it's very bespoke right?
1:10:48
You know differing from everybody who walks
1:10:50
in the door. It is all of
1:10:53
that and I'm not a physicist and
1:10:55
I don't claim to be one, but
1:10:57
I remember high school physics. And one
1:11:00
of the things I remember about that,
1:11:02
and this actually played into something I
1:11:04
was reading about with these torpedo bats,
1:11:07
is if you move the moment of
1:11:09
inertia, they call it, closer to the
1:11:11
axis of rotation, it speeds up. It's
1:11:14
like everybody's seen the figure skaters. They
1:11:16
bring their arms in their rotation. So
1:11:18
I wonder if bringing your arm closer...
1:11:21
to your body while you're spinning your
1:11:23
body speeds up that part of your
1:11:25
arm because it's closer to the center
1:11:28
of the axis of rotation. You know
1:11:30
what I mean? Yeah, that does make
1:11:32
sense. I can see I can see
1:11:35
that. You're right because if you're, you
1:11:37
know, you spin, you see using the
1:11:39
figure skater analogy, you see the skaters
1:11:42
spinning a lot faster with hard. their
1:11:44
arms crossed across their chest as opposed
1:11:46
to you know and nobody can see
1:11:49
what I'm doing. But it's very good
1:11:51
Ray, very demonstrative. This is fantastic content,
1:11:53
yeah, but if you have your arms
1:11:56
straight out and like a T you
1:11:58
can still spin of course figure skaters
1:12:00
do that but they're not rotating as
1:12:03
quickly. in fact figure skater start with
1:12:05
their arms way out and one of
1:12:07
their legs extended as well because they
1:12:10
want to get the momentum from that
1:12:12
and then once they get spinning then
1:12:14
they pull everything in and it goes
1:12:16
faster and the same thing's true of
1:12:19
football quarterbacks when if you watch a
1:12:21
football quarterback his offhand is going to
1:12:23
start out way outside of his body
1:12:26
and it's going to pull in as
1:12:28
he as he rotates forward and tries
1:12:30
to throw pitchers glove glove hand usually
1:12:33
ends up up up close to their
1:12:35
chest all of these kinds of things
1:12:37
and the other aspect of it I
1:12:40
wondered about when I read this report
1:12:42
on Chris Bubich is I wonder if
1:12:44
bringing your elbow closer to your body
1:12:47
improves your control your ability to locate
1:12:49
the pitch because it's it's not as
1:12:51
flingy way out at the end as
1:12:54
it would be if it were a
1:12:56
whip, for instance. You know, I noticed
1:12:58
that Corbin said that Bubich's fastball location
1:13:01
has been a positive change as well.
1:13:03
I think you're on to something there.
1:13:05
Indeed, Bubich has been actually locating the
1:13:08
fastball, not just better, but... differently. He's
1:13:10
been working the fastball more in the
1:13:12
upper third of the strike zone, which
1:13:15
makes it a good complement to his
1:13:17
slider, but especially the change up, which
1:13:19
is emerging is a very effective pitch
1:13:22
against opposite-handed hitters. In Bubit's, the first
1:13:24
outing is change up at a 40%
1:13:26
swing strike rate, eight change up. with
1:13:29
seven of them were those down and
1:13:31
away diving away from right-handed pitters, which
1:13:33
is really, you know, an optimal location
1:13:36
for generating, you know, both those swings
1:13:38
and misses, and we contact from right-handed
1:13:40
batters. So that's kind of the, that
1:13:43
kind of the sweet spot for the
1:13:45
changeup. And then Corbin wraps it up.
1:13:47
up is look at Boobich by saying,
1:13:50
you know, the early performance is interesting,
1:13:52
but the greater long-term interest is kind
1:13:54
of how he's aligning all of these
1:13:56
pitch inputs and still really a work
1:13:59
in progress as he sort of reinvents
1:14:01
himself with this new release point that
1:14:03
kind of, you know, is changing the
1:14:06
shape of all of his pitches, so
1:14:08
we're still sort of piecing together how
1:14:10
to go back to the title of
1:14:13
an article, how all of this comes
1:14:15
together into an arsenal, you know. In
1:14:17
Baltimore, the Orioles placed right-hander Zach Eflin
1:14:20
on the 15-day I.L. with what the
1:14:22
team called a low-grade lat strain. Now
1:14:24
they're not even putting numbers on it,
1:14:27
Ray. Just a high-medium low, I guess,
1:14:29
I don't know. It apparently happened during
1:14:31
his start on Monday. Ryan Williams covered
1:14:34
the story for playing time today, so
1:14:36
what is the story? Yeah, now they're
1:14:38
just confusing me with these grading systems.
1:14:41
It's like you say low grade and
1:14:43
I'm like, oh no, did you get
1:14:45
a D? And is that you know,
1:14:48
and now how does that how does
1:14:50
that map to the numbers, right? You
1:14:52
know, we're all using different scales. I
1:14:55
don't know what to do with all
1:14:57
those stuff. But Ryan Williams covered this
1:14:59
for us in playing time today. Eflin
1:15:02
shut down from throwing for about a
1:15:04
week and then they'll reevaluate reevaluate I
1:15:06
think all the same caveats from the
1:15:09
same caveats for discussion apply here. Depending
1:15:11
on the length of F1's absence, we're
1:15:13
not totally sure what the O's are
1:15:16
gonna do in their rotation. It could
1:15:18
be Kyle Gibson. He had a AAA
1:15:20
rehab start on Thursday this week and
1:15:23
through three and a third innings, only
1:15:25
47 pitches, three hits a run, no
1:15:27
walks and four K's. So reasonably effective,
1:15:29
but 47 pitches I think is probably
1:15:32
not the platform you want before you
1:15:34
throw them back into the big league
1:15:36
rotation, but. The O's may not have
1:15:39
a choice. They may have to call
1:15:41
him up and target 65 pictures in
1:15:43
a bullpen day after that. And just
1:15:46
for everyone's information, Gibson's opposing starter in
1:15:48
that game was Spencer Strider of Atlanta,
1:15:50
whose name is going to come up
1:15:53
a little later on. So what happens
1:15:55
if the O's need a starter before?
1:15:57
for Gibson is actually ready. Yeah, if
1:16:00
they want to give him another outing
1:16:02
or two, it seems like the most
1:16:04
logical replacement would be Brandon Young, who's
1:16:07
off to a great start in AAA,
1:16:09
11 or a third inning, scoreless, 21%
1:16:11
K minus BB. But Baltimore also has
1:16:14
two off days in the next five.
1:16:16
So it's possible that they can skip
1:16:18
the turn all together and maybe not
1:16:21
need that turn until. That would be
1:16:23
like next weekend or maybe even the
1:16:25
Monday, the following week. So that might
1:16:28
be a needle they could thread where
1:16:30
Gibson gets one more start, gets those
1:16:32
60 plus pitches in and then two
1:16:35
starts for now, Gibson's ready to go
1:16:37
80. But that depends on how Gibson's
1:16:39
rehab goes. And as we've said, Brandon
1:16:42
Young is probably the standby option there.
1:16:44
Meanwhile, analyst Stephen Nick Rand also mentioned
1:16:46
Zach Eflin in his starting-picture buyers guide
1:16:49
column. He was looking at some first-week
1:16:51
stories of interest, and he wasn't exactly
1:16:53
laudatory about Zach Eflin. Yeah, Stephen noted
1:16:56
that Eflin had some decent results before
1:16:58
going on the IL here, 375 ERA,
1:17:00
and a sub-one whip in two starts,
1:17:03
but a friendly 23% hit rate was
1:17:05
a... big part of what was protecting
1:17:07
those ratios and was masking a ton
1:17:09
of heart contact. It was three starts,
1:17:12
not two actually, with those 12 innings,
1:17:14
but batters had a 93 biopur hour
1:17:16
average exit velocity against him, which is
1:17:19
just a lot of heart contact. That
1:17:21
was actually the most, the highest level
1:17:23
of heart contact, any starter is allowed
1:17:26
so far this year, and of course
1:17:28
the highest level of Evelyn's career. The
1:17:30
barrel rate against him was 9 percent,
1:17:33
which is middle of the road, 45th
1:17:35
percentile, but also much higher than Eflin's
1:17:37
career average. The strikeout rate was down
1:17:40
to just 11% which is would be
1:17:42
the worst of any of Eflin's years
1:17:44
as a starting picture. These are all
1:17:47
small samples of course so we can't
1:17:49
panic and of course I guess now
1:17:51
we have to ask the question. and
1:17:54
whether the lat was bothering him in
1:17:56
at least one of these outings and
1:17:58
causing some of these poor results. The
1:18:01
F1's control was still intact, only a
1:18:03
1.5% walk rate, which is great, but
1:18:05
put it all together and maybe it's
1:18:08
worth in a couple of weeks if
1:18:10
F1 comes off the IL, keeping him
1:18:12
benched or inactive for his first start
1:18:15
or two if you can, just to
1:18:17
see what we've got there because that.
1:18:19
375 ERA and someone WIP was not
1:18:22
supported by the underlying skills in those
1:18:24
first three it starts before the IL.
1:18:26
Let's move to the National League Ray
1:18:29
and in St. Louis, one of the
1:18:31
big stories of the year so far
1:18:33
for fantasy purposes and for the Cardinals
1:18:36
has been the emergence of catcher Yvonne
1:18:38
Herrera. He was a tout darling in
1:18:40
the off-season, I have to say, and
1:18:43
I targeted him and didn't get him
1:18:45
in any of my drafts. Twenty-four played
1:18:47
appearances so far this year, already four
1:18:49
homers. Eleven RBI, six runs scored, and
1:18:52
a $25 5-by-5 player. Now he has
1:18:54
a bone bruise in his left knee.
1:18:56
Matt Ceterhome looked at this injury in
1:18:59
the big hurt injuries analysis. What's his
1:19:01
diagnosis? Yeah, so Matt covered this initial
1:19:03
injury and then already posted an update
1:19:06
on it and his reaction was similar
1:19:08
to mine. I happen to be watching
1:19:10
this game because Herrera got hurt in
1:19:13
the game here in Boston last weekend.
1:19:15
But Matt pointed out that the weird
1:19:17
thing about this is that the diagnosis
1:19:20
of a bone bruise is a really
1:19:22
odd diagnosis to get from how this
1:19:24
injury happened. Herrera was like running out
1:19:27
was on base and like running out
1:19:29
a pop up and like just running
1:19:31
between third and home with his head
1:19:34
down like you do when like there's
1:19:36
a ball in the air that's gonna
1:19:38
be the third out and suddenly just
1:19:41
came up late but like a bone
1:19:43
bruise implies that's a contact right something's
1:19:45
gotta hit you to cause a bruise
1:19:48
right and you know dearest we could
1:19:50
tell from where they said the injury
1:19:52
happened and that is where the injury
1:19:55
happened because they basically had to help
1:19:57
them off. the field after he was
1:19:59
just running, like, okay, well, how did
1:20:02
you get that bruise? So, you know,
1:20:04
as Matt points out, could be that,
1:20:06
you know, it was a flare-up of
1:20:09
something that happened earlier in the game
1:20:11
or any, something like that. But the
1:20:13
bottom line, regardless of how it happened,
1:20:16
is bone bruise really isn't a great
1:20:18
diagnosis. for Herrera, owners, not like you,
1:20:20
since you didn't get them, for those
1:20:23
who actually did. Because they tend to
1:20:25
heal slowly. The team estimated he's going
1:20:27
to be out at least four weeks,
1:20:29
and that's probably not a very precise
1:20:32
estimate. It depends on the severity of
1:20:34
the bruise, exactly where it is on
1:20:36
the bone, etc. And of course, we
1:20:39
know catching isn't exactly a... low stress
1:20:41
on the knees position. So he doesn't
1:20:43
just have to get healthy, he has
1:20:46
to get catcher healthy, which might be
1:20:48
an even higher bar. So put all
1:20:50
that together. Matt said four to six
1:20:53
weeks for a sort of a baseline
1:20:55
estimate for him to return, which puts
1:20:57
us out to, you know, mid-late May,
1:21:00
and there's more downside than up from
1:21:02
there. It could get worse. Yeah, and
1:21:04
in our second expert interview I mentioned,
1:21:07
I will be talking to Baseball HQ
1:21:09
injuries analyst Dr. Jim Ferretti, and we
1:21:11
talked about bone bruises among many other
1:21:14
injuries, and let me just say this,
1:21:16
the doc says a bone bruise should
1:21:18
really be called a partial fracture. Also,
1:21:21
let me say this, ouch. And speaking
1:21:23
of ouch, my league leading and fifth
1:21:25
place overall earth league team got a
1:21:28
jolt of bad news when the Reds
1:21:30
placed second baseman Matt Mcane on the
1:21:32
aisle. With a hamstring injury, Zach Larson
1:21:35
covering the story for playing time today,
1:21:37
how long is Matt McLean likely to
1:21:39
be out? Yeah, from what Zach reported
1:21:42
here, this injury does not seem tremendously
1:21:44
serious. McLean had been benched for several
1:21:46
days, but was supposedly, you know, in
1:21:49
that available off the bench of needed
1:21:51
state. But Cincinnati is then sort of...
1:21:53
changed their mind and decided to give
1:21:56
him more time to recover. And he'll
1:21:58
be eligible to return on Tuesday next
1:22:00
week, once the 10 days are up.
1:22:02
So this might have been just a
1:22:05
better part of hour. We got, you
1:22:07
know, once you get like four to
1:22:09
three or four days into a potential
1:22:12
10-day injury, you know, it kind of
1:22:14
reminds me of like taking the car
1:22:16
keys away from Tito, Frankota and saying,
1:22:19
yeah, we told you you could use
1:22:21
them for a couple of days and
1:22:23
you didn't. Yeah, the IEL stint, I
1:22:26
don't know, most people know this I
1:22:28
think, but it's worth remembering that an
1:22:30
IEL stint can be backdated to the
1:22:33
day after the last time the player
1:22:35
actually played in the game and that
1:22:37
seems to be what's happened here. And
1:22:40
from Zach's coverage it looks like the
1:22:42
Reds lineup will have a lot of
1:22:44
moving parts moving. Yeah, they... have their
1:22:47
own version of Team Pretzel going on
1:22:49
here where you can sort of bend
1:22:51
the line up in a bunch of
1:22:54
different ways. Gavin Lux. moves from mostly
1:22:56
playing the outfield to sliding into McLean's
1:22:58
second base spot. Noelle Marte who we
1:23:01
remember from a big rookie year two
1:23:03
years ago and then suspension for half
1:23:05
of last season followed by an ignominious
1:23:08
or unproductive at least return. He didn't
1:23:10
make the team coming out of spring
1:23:12
training but he gets to call up
1:23:15
here to replace McLean on the roster.
1:23:17
Marte was off to a good start
1:23:19
at AAA, hitting 353 with a 954
1:23:22
OPS, just 34 at bats, but after
1:23:24
a spring in which he didn't really
1:23:26
do much, it's nice to see him
1:23:29
get the bat going. So he might
1:23:31
get a little bit of playing time
1:23:33
this weekend here. Like we said, this
1:23:36
is a, we think a very short
1:23:38
term opportunity, but they gave Marte the
1:23:40
call. How could they use him if
1:23:42
they want to? He could cut into
1:23:45
the playing time of Heimer Candelario who
1:23:47
plays. sort of both corner spots and
1:23:49
or Christian and international strand who yes
1:23:52
in particular is not not doing much.
1:23:54
He's got a 593 OPS. Candelario has
1:23:56
been much better. He's got a much
1:23:59
worse, excuse me. He's got a 371
1:24:01
OPS. So the Candelario incarnation strand corner
1:24:03
infield law firm has not really been
1:24:06
productive. So maybe Duelave Marte Marte. You
1:24:08
can easily envision a scenario where he
1:24:10
gives each of those guys one day
1:24:13
off this weekend while McLean's out, right?
1:24:15
And, you know, and they, while he's
1:24:17
up, they give him a couple of
1:24:20
swings and maybe he goes to the
1:24:22
other 12 and says, this is my
1:24:24
job, I don't know. And you've got
1:24:27
backup infielder Santiago Espinal, 576 OPS, so
1:24:29
the Reds need some kind of thump
1:24:31
and certainly it doesn't look like like
1:24:34
these guys are providing it. Matt McLean,
1:24:36
of course was and... He'll go right
1:24:38
back in when he gets back, but
1:24:41
it'll be interesting to see how that
1:24:43
cluster of sort of subpar middle infielders
1:24:45
or infielders in general, I guess, works
1:24:48
out. As I recall, we've talked about
1:24:50
the Reds having this pattern of rostering
1:24:52
a lot of multi-position players and then
1:24:55
using them in multi-positions. So what are
1:24:57
the implications outside the Reds infield? Right,
1:24:59
we just spent a couple of minutes
1:25:02
talking about the infield, but I started
1:25:04
that segment by saying they pulled Gavin
1:25:06
Lux from the outfield in the second
1:25:09
base to cover from a plane. So
1:25:11
there are some outfield ripples as well.
1:25:13
We gave a little bump in playing
1:25:16
time to Blake Dunn as he's moved
1:25:18
ahead of Jacob Hurtabees on the sort
1:25:20
of backup outfield or depth chart. Dunn's
1:25:22
produced modest results. He's got 23 played
1:25:25
appearances, a home run, a 704 OPS
1:25:27
so far. He does have a 208
1:25:29
X expected power index, which is not
1:25:32
uninteresting. And some stack has batted ball
1:25:34
metrics that are up in the upper
1:25:36
echelons. If he had more plate appearances,
1:25:39
he'd be a 90% tile in average
1:25:41
exit velocity and barrel percentage. Of course.
1:25:43
We're talking about 23 played appearances. So
1:25:46
if he gets a little more run,
1:25:48
we'll find out if that's real. But
1:25:50
he's also been pretty good in terms
1:25:53
of play patience. Swing and chase metrics
1:25:55
are both pretty good. Will Benson is
1:25:57
down in AAA. I actually saw a
1:26:00
clip the other day of him hitting,
1:26:02
I think a game winning three run
1:26:04
home run and AAA. So he's probably
1:26:07
gonna be back soon as well. Just
1:26:09
to get further. put another name into
1:26:11
this sort of fourth outfielder competition. That
1:26:14
of course is the job that Benson
1:26:16
held most of last year. And then,
1:26:18
don't forget besides McLean coming back in
1:26:21
the next week or so, Austin Hayes
1:26:23
has been on EIL since the start
1:26:25
of the season, but he's also getting
1:26:28
close to being ready, which further muddies
1:26:30
the situation here. So I would think
1:26:32
that both done and her to bees
1:26:35
are probably off the roster at some
1:26:37
point, while Benson and Hayes end up
1:26:39
taking. not only back about fielder jobs,
1:26:42
but there's a, you know, that's going
1:26:44
to force some of the playing time
1:26:46
of guys like Jake Freily too who
1:26:49
are going to turn into more job
1:26:51
shares with Hazen McLean. So yeah, there's
1:26:53
a lot going on in Cincinnati. Over
1:26:56
to the mound, in another jolt of
1:26:58
bad news, for my league-leading fifth-place overall
1:27:00
Earth League team, the Cubs put left-hander
1:27:02
Justin Steele on the 15-day I-L, he
1:27:05
has tendonitis in his left elbow. That's
1:27:07
a problem. Ryan Williams, for playing time
1:27:09
today, what's the story? Yeah, Steele went
1:27:12
to the team and said he had
1:27:14
the dreaded elbow tightness during his start
1:27:16
on Monday this week. And of course,
1:27:19
the Cubs were like, okay, we're shutting
1:27:21
you down because that's really the only
1:27:23
thing you can do. Right. So he
1:27:26
was scheduled for an MRI on Thursday.
1:27:28
I have not seen any news about
1:27:30
that yet, but pending the results, the
1:27:33
team is optimistic that it really is
1:27:35
tendiditis and not structural and that he
1:27:37
can. require a minimum stay on the
1:27:40
I.L. Of course, I would be remiss
1:27:42
if I didn't jump back to the
1:27:44
theme here, PD. This is, I think
1:27:47
the. fourth injury we've talked about in
1:27:49
this show and every team has said
1:27:51
they hope they're good at the player
1:27:54
will only miss the minimum but I
1:27:56
think in reality it's a very small
1:27:58
percentage of I else since that actually
1:28:01
lasts the minimum it's like 120% or
1:28:03
something right so the chances of these
1:28:05
guys all going four for four and
1:28:08
minimum I else since seems pretty unlikely
1:28:10
to me pretty unlikely is right so
1:28:12
assuming steel misses at least the 15
1:28:15
days and maybe more who gets his
1:28:17
spot in the rotation My magic eight
1:28:19
ball says reply hazy ask again later.
1:28:22
It's hard to forecast. Colin Ray is
1:28:24
probably the best option. I think he's.
1:28:26
He was pretty good last year to
1:28:29
be fair in terms of outward results,
1:28:31
but I think we can charitably characterize
1:28:33
him as a journeyman. He's been working
1:28:36
out of the Cubs bullpen so far
1:28:38
this year, but career era of 452,
1:28:40
little worse than that as a starter.
1:28:42
Jordan Wix is not pitching terrifically in
1:28:45
AAA. He's got a 476 ERA and
1:28:47
a 176 whip. He could be considered,
1:28:49
but you would think that. the Cubs
1:28:52
would like to see some better results
1:28:54
from him before they pull that lever
1:28:56
and if the Cubs don't then fantasy
1:28:59
managers should wait and see better results
1:29:01
before they get excited about it. What
1:29:03
the Cubs have done for the short
1:29:06
term is they call them Ethan Roberts
1:29:08
but he's only the sort of middle
1:29:10
reliever until they need a starter so
1:29:13
nothing to get excited about there. And
1:29:15
in Atlanta, the club announced Ronaldo Lopez
1:29:17
has undergone arthroscopic surgery on his ailing
1:29:20
right shoulder. He's going to be shut
1:29:22
down from throwing for about 12 weeks.
1:29:24
And 12 weeks sounds like a minimum.
1:29:27
Phil hurts for playing time today. What's
1:29:29
going to happen in the Atlanta rotation
1:29:31
with Ronaldo Lopez out for three months,
1:29:34
maybe more? Yeah, you know, this sounded
1:29:36
ominous from a couple of a week
1:29:38
or two ago when Phil first reported
1:29:41
this, when this news broke... that they
1:29:43
were doing exploratory orthoscopic surgery to kind
1:29:45
of say to kind of go in
1:29:48
and see what was wrong there and
1:29:50
sure enough that did not end well.
1:29:52
It sounds like Globe has won't throw
1:29:55
until even July at the earliest and
1:29:57
then he'll need at least a few
1:29:59
more weeks to ramp up there to
1:30:02
you know put some more stress on
1:30:04
the arm, make sure it's responding well
1:30:06
and then of course build up. his
1:30:09
build up to whatever role they're going
1:30:11
to give him. We've cut his plane
1:30:13
time projection all the way down the
1:30:15
one and a half percent. That might
1:30:18
be optimistic. I read this story in
1:30:20
my optimistic take. I don't I don't
1:30:22
believe Phil wrote this. but my optimistic
1:30:25
take was the best case scenario here
1:30:27
seems to be that they would bring
1:30:29
him back as a reliever in a
1:30:32
second half. Like if he shows up
1:30:34
post trade deadline as a, you know,
1:30:36
hey, it's just like the Braves traded
1:30:39
for a setup man. But all the
1:30:41
Lopez plugs back into the bullpen that,
1:30:43
you know, he's obviously got a history
1:30:46
as a reliever and that. from just
1:30:48
the scope of this injury, that kind
1:30:50
of sounds like the most you could
1:30:53
ask of him this year. So in
1:30:55
the near term, they're gonna need somebody
1:30:57
to take those innings and in the
1:31:00
long term, maybe as well as you
1:31:02
say, so who benefits? For now it's
1:31:04
AJ Smith Chauver who currently is now
1:31:07
has an 8% point for us, every
1:31:09
percentage point is about 14 innings, so
1:31:11
you can, I'm not. the 14 times
1:31:14
eight math isn't working in my head,
1:31:16
but that's that's over 100 innings now.
1:31:18
So that's a that's a decent start
1:31:21
to work load for shavaries. You know,
1:31:23
there was some hand ringing in the
1:31:25
spring of, oh my goodness, when strider
1:31:28
comes back, how will Smith Shavar stay
1:31:30
in the rotation? The Braves, I'm so
1:31:32
much pitching. We know that for sure.
1:31:35
Now. Ray, when we were talking about
1:31:37
Kyle Gibson earlier in a AAA start,
1:31:39
I mentioned that his opponent was Spencer
1:31:42
Strider, who was absolutely dominant in that
1:31:44
game. Is there any chance Strider steps
1:31:46
back? sooner than later into the Atlanta
1:31:49
rotation, which would really solve a lot
1:31:51
of problems. I mean, that day really
1:31:53
seems to be coming, that outing from
1:31:55
Strider early this week, he was aces,
1:31:58
five and a third innings, one run
1:32:00
allowed, 13 strikeouts, and incredibly efficient, and
1:32:02
you know, you don't usually see, so
1:32:05
he struck out when we do the
1:32:07
math here, he got he got 16
1:32:09
outs and 13 in the whole strikeout,
1:32:12
which is like, you know. That's the
1:32:14
kind of numbers I see in like
1:32:16
my daughter's 13 year old softball league,
1:32:19
right? Not not not immediately baseball. And
1:32:21
he was in fact two strikes into
1:32:23
his 14th strike out when they pulled
1:32:26
him because he had reached the 90
1:32:28
pitch count of that was his hard
1:32:30
ceiling for the outing. They asked Brian
1:32:33
Snicker, a bridge manager about this, and
1:32:35
he said Strider is quote, right where
1:32:37
we want him to be before he
1:32:40
gets here. But he didn't say when
1:32:42
that would be. I look at that
1:32:44
line and I'm like, well, what else
1:32:47
do we want him to do before
1:32:49
we bring him back? I guess the
1:32:51
biggest argument for leaving him down there
1:32:54
would be that they can continue to
1:32:56
manage the workload and let him work
1:32:58
in a controlled environment and be able
1:33:01
to do things. you know that are
1:33:03
easier to do in the minors like
1:33:05
for instance go out and get him
1:33:08
with two strikes on the batter because
1:33:10
he's gotten his hard pitch count and
1:33:12
don't have to worry about the you
1:33:15
know sniffer getting the crap boot out
1:33:17
of him when he comes out and
1:33:19
does that in Atlanta right that's obviously
1:33:22
not a real concern but I'm being
1:33:24
a little flip here but you know
1:33:26
I would after that outing it doesn't
1:33:29
seem like he needs more than one
1:33:31
or two starts and the Braves as
1:33:33
you said could use the help. The
1:33:35
media say Strider's return they think is
1:33:38
going to be either next week in
1:33:40
Toronto or during a home stand against
1:33:42
the twins I think that starts in
1:33:45
the middle of the month and I
1:33:47
used to be tangentially involved in marketing
1:33:49
and I wonder if they're just going
1:33:52
to hold on and let Strider come
1:33:54
back to a hero's welcome in his
1:33:56
home park mind you they also want
1:33:59
to win the game in Toronto. So
1:34:01
there's competing interest there, shall we say.
1:34:03
Ray, any news from baseball HQ, any
1:34:06
updates going on with the site? Yeah,
1:34:08
we've sort of completed our transition to
1:34:10
in-season mode. We've got our in-season tools
1:34:13
all cooking. We've made some major enhancements
1:34:15
to the week sink tool, which is
1:34:17
the new version of the old Mac
1:34:20
engine on our old site. Just this
1:34:22
week, we did another change that I'm
1:34:24
a. huge fan of is we kind
1:34:27
of did an overhaul on our team
1:34:29
depth chart pages. People may not go
1:34:31
there as often. So always good to
1:34:34
draw attention to stuff like that. But
1:34:36
we have all kinds of new info
1:34:38
on the depth chart page. One thing
1:34:41
I'm a huge fan of have been
1:34:43
using a lot of. We've got a
1:34:45
recent player usage log where you can
1:34:48
go to any teams page, look at
1:34:50
either their running log for the full
1:34:52
season of their defensive lineups or their
1:34:55
batting orders. like I just clicked on
1:34:57
the White Sox page and if I
1:34:59
want to see how they're using, oh
1:35:02
I don't know, let me pick somebody
1:35:04
here. Brooks Baldwin because he's. sort of
1:35:06
all over the field. I can quickly
1:35:09
highlight him and see that he's got
1:35:11
three starts in second base and two
1:35:13
at shortstop and two in left field
1:35:15
and two in right field and I
1:35:18
can isolate it by left-handed and right-handed
1:35:20
pitching. So if you're trying to make
1:35:22
weekly lineup decisions or spot lineup trends,
1:35:25
who's got playing time that's rising, who's
1:35:27
falling? It's a great tool for a
1:35:29
little bit of doing your own research
1:35:32
and it's quickly, it's only been around
1:35:34
for a week or so and it's
1:35:36
quickly become one of one of one
1:35:39
of those things that is always open
1:35:41
in a tab on my browser. Yeah,
1:35:43
especially for daily or non-weekly moves, right?
1:35:46
I mean, you got to get in
1:35:48
there. Those trends are so important. Did
1:35:50
I dream this, or has the injuries
1:35:53
record been updated in some fashion? You
1:35:55
know, it hasn't been updated, but that
1:35:57
tab has been there for a while,
1:36:00
and last year I was not at
1:36:02
all happy with... the quality of the
1:36:04
data in it. It's not data we
1:36:07
do ourselves, it's a subscription to a
1:36:09
service from a stats provider. And I
1:36:11
thought it was missing a lot of
1:36:14
things, but it's really on the ball
1:36:16
this year. Every time I go look
1:36:18
for an injury, I do that as
1:36:21
like a validation or a testing thing.
1:36:23
Like, oh, did this injury happen yesterday?
1:36:25
Did that show up in the log
1:36:28
or on the player link page? And
1:36:30
this year, it's always there. So I'm
1:36:32
super happy about that too. It's a
1:36:35
good point. It's a good point. It's
1:36:37
on the player link page. Yeah, if
1:36:39
the player is actually on the I.L.
1:36:42
there's a big yellow banner that shows
1:36:44
up right at the top of the
1:36:46
player wing page with the injury description.
1:36:48
Sounds like things keep getting better at
1:36:51
baseball hQ.com. Ray, thanks a million for
1:36:53
helping us out here on the show
1:36:55
and we'll talk to you again next
1:36:58
week. Catch up in the next week,
1:37:00
Peter. Coming up we have our second
1:37:02
feature expert interview with Dr. Jim Ferretti,
1:37:05
but first let me highlight what's coming
1:37:07
up in the next few editions of
1:37:09
Baseball HQ Radio. In the weeks ahead,
1:37:12
we'll have more top-notch guest experts, including
1:37:14
Mike Gienella from Baseball Prospectus, Nick Pollock
1:37:16
of Pitcherlist.com. Eric Longinhagen, the lead prospect
1:37:19
analyst at Fangraphs, Sarah Sanchez, the playing
1:37:21
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1:37:23
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1:37:26
Stamfel from CBS Sports and Jeff Zimmerman
1:37:28
of Rotographs, and the Process Fantasy Baseball
1:37:30
Manual. Plus, every week it's all the
1:37:33
usual great stuff. Our news analysis and
1:37:35
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1:37:37
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1:37:40
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1:37:42
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1:37:44
and I'm looking forward to talking with
1:37:47
you. Baseball HQ Radio. Hey,
1:37:52
welcome back to Baseball HQ Radio PD
1:37:54
here. Time now for our second feature
1:37:56
expert interview with Dr. Jim Ferretti, the
1:37:58
fantasy. sports doctor and an injury analyst
1:38:01
at baseball HQ.com. Dr. Jim, welcome to
1:38:03
baseball HQ radio. Hey Patrick, thanks so
1:38:05
much for having me. Oh it's a
1:38:08
it's really a pleasure before we get
1:38:10
into your medical background and injuries and
1:38:12
everything like that. How many fantasy baseball
1:38:14
drafts are you playing this year? Oh
1:38:17
man, probably too many. I have about...
1:38:19
Yeah, I know. Well, it's for a
1:38:21
reason, right? I have about 20 teams
1:38:23
on NFBC. Most of their gladiators in
1:38:26
draft and holds, so they don't take
1:38:28
a lot of attention, require a lot
1:38:30
of attention post-rap. I do have three
1:38:33
Fab leagues, including one with our friends
1:38:35
Bubben Trinkin and Ryan Bloomfield, so I'm
1:38:37
doing their auction league. And I was
1:38:39
part of the inaugural Mike Massado, MTM,
1:38:42
main event in New Jersey this year.
1:38:44
And then there's my home league, which
1:38:46
is a 12 team head to head
1:38:48
with daily moves. And with those daily
1:38:51
moves, that league is like having a
1:38:53
part-time job. But that's what I'm doing
1:38:55
this year. 12 team mixed that one?
1:38:57
Yeah, 12 team mixed five by five
1:39:00
head to head. It's pretty intense. It's
1:39:02
like the waivers is first come first
1:39:04
serve, daily moves. It's a lot. Yeah,
1:39:07
I played in a league once that
1:39:09
was first come first serve for waiver
1:39:11
grabs and it was a weekly league,
1:39:13
thank God, but you could make your
1:39:16
move during the week and then it
1:39:18
was only effective on the Monday morning
1:39:20
after you did it, but you could
1:39:22
grab a waiver guy any time you
1:39:25
wanted. We eventually changed that to a
1:39:27
Fab system on Sundays and worked way
1:39:29
better. So how are your teams doing
1:39:32
overall? What do they say, win some,
1:39:34
lose some? I've been told it's too
1:39:36
early to look at the standings, so
1:39:38
we'll go with that. Most of the
1:39:41
middle of the pack haven't really caught
1:39:43
fire yet. Although I will say my
1:39:45
most rastered player is Will you or
1:39:47
Bray you, and he's been doing pretty
1:39:50
well. So that's like my shining light
1:39:52
there, so we'll go with that. I
1:39:54
only have three teams and will you
1:39:57
or a braille was on two of
1:39:59
them. Okay. And it's helping a lot
1:40:01
in one, not helping at all, and
1:40:03
the other, and kind of in the
1:40:06
middle and the third. Because of your
1:40:08
background, when you're in draft situations, how
1:40:10
much does injury history and injury expectation
1:40:12
and injury risk play into your player
1:40:15
selection process? I think for me a
1:40:17
lot, which probably wouldn't surprise you or
1:40:19
the audience, I don't think. If anything,
1:40:22
when you're playing in all these different
1:40:24
leagues, and especially when you're playing in
1:40:26
leagues, MFBC leagues, the competition is really
1:40:28
strong and a lot of the guys
1:40:31
that play in those leagues, smart than
1:40:33
I am, in a lot of different
1:40:35
areas, statistics, player evaluation, prospects, you name
1:40:37
it. So if there's any area where
1:40:40
I feel like I'm gonna have an
1:40:42
edge, it's gonna be when it comes
1:40:44
to injury evaluation and kind of leaning
1:40:46
into maybe more embracing the risk with
1:40:49
player evaluation and leaning into my medical
1:40:51
background to help me out there. I
1:40:53
was thinking because I drafted in one
1:40:56
draft, I drafted a few guys who
1:40:58
were, I knew were gonna start the
1:41:00
year on the IL, but that had
1:41:02
forced their price down to. you know
1:41:05
half or two-thirds of what assuming a
1:41:07
650 plate appearance season they're worth X
1:41:09
and because of this injury situation they're
1:41:11
worth half of X or the cost
1:41:14
is half of X but I thought
1:41:16
these guys are gonna be back you
1:41:18
know even if it's a month before
1:41:21
they get back that's still five-sixth of
1:41:23
a season that I'm getting for half
1:41:25
price basically is that kind of how
1:41:27
you look at it? Well yes but
1:41:30
also I think there's more to it
1:41:32
than that I think this is one
1:41:34
thing that people forget I think they
1:41:36
know it intuitively, but when they're, you
1:41:39
know, looking at their spreadsheet or looking
1:41:41
at their projections, they kind of forget
1:41:43
about it. That month that you're not
1:41:46
gonna have the player that's injured, he
1:41:48
comes back in a month, that's great.
1:41:50
You're probably not gonna. take a zero
1:41:52
for that roster spot for that other
1:41:55
months so you get the replacement value
1:41:57
of that player added in and you
1:41:59
know let's say that that player happens
1:42:01
to be somebody who starts out hot
1:42:04
you know then it's better than replacement
1:42:06
level so you actually end up you
1:42:08
know making out even better than you
1:42:10
thought so it's you know really to
1:42:13
your advantage in some of these cases
1:42:15
if you can get the timing right
1:42:17
and you can get the injury evaluation
1:42:20
part right and you can kind of
1:42:22
get the ballpark of when the guy's
1:42:24
going to be back right right then
1:42:26
you can really make out and make
1:42:29
a profit. And I try to lean
1:42:31
into that myself. I guess a lot
1:42:33
of it depends on your league format
1:42:35
because I did this technique in a
1:42:38
tout American League only. And when you
1:42:40
say you're not going to take a
1:42:42
zero from the slot because you can
1:42:45
fill with a free agent, guess again,
1:42:47
Charlie. You might very well get a
1:42:49
zero because there's nobody to pick up
1:42:51
really. Let's get into your medical background.
1:42:54
How did you get to be a
1:42:56
doctor? Well, I'm a
1:42:58
doctor of osteopathic medicine
1:43:00
specifically and I'm also
1:43:02
a board certified diagnostic
1:43:04
radiologist with a subspecialty
1:43:07
and MRI. So that's
1:43:09
my training background and
1:43:11
I've been I've been
1:43:13
a doctor for almost
1:43:15
20 years now. So
1:43:17
we're getting up there.
1:43:19
And what's your fantasy
1:43:21
baseball background? Well, I've
1:43:23
been playing fantasy sports since even longer.
1:43:25
I think we're going on 30 years
1:43:28
now. Started playing in my first leagues,
1:43:30
I think freshman year in college. So
1:43:32
that was back in 1994 and never
1:43:35
look back. I know some people have
1:43:37
come on and they said who their
1:43:39
first pick was. I can't remember who
1:43:42
it was, but it would have been
1:43:44
somebody that retired a long time ago.
1:43:46
Yeah, no kidding. Mine was Ruben Sierra.
1:43:49
Oh nice. I do remember that. In
1:43:51
a YouTube interview you said your impetus
1:43:53
for applying your medical acumen to your
1:43:56
fantasy baseball interest came from an appearance
1:43:58
at first pitch Arizona. How did that
1:44:00
happen? Yeah, so that is actually kind
1:44:02
of a funny story. Like I've been
1:44:05
to first pitch Arizona a few times
1:44:07
and it's, you know, it's a fantastic
1:44:09
event, you know, put on by our
1:44:12
friends at Baseball HQ. I've been fortunate
1:44:14
enough to present at some of those
1:44:16
events and do some of the online
1:44:19
events as well. But while I was
1:44:21
there. I was speaking to multiple people
1:44:23
and they just kept kind of saying
1:44:26
the same thing to me. It's like,
1:44:28
oh, I wish there was some way
1:44:30
that I could get around understanding injuries
1:44:33
a little bit better because injuries are
1:44:35
killing my team and I don't know
1:44:37
how to evaluate them and I feel
1:44:39
like I'm drafting these guys and they're
1:44:42
getting these guys and they're getting great.
1:44:44
And I just don't understand how to
1:44:46
do it. And I heard this conversation
1:44:49
multiple times over the course of the
1:44:51
course of the weekend. So on the
1:44:53
way back. same thing. And we had
1:44:56
got into a conversation about it and
1:44:58
the person I was talking to, he
1:45:00
said, you know, do you think this
1:45:03
is something that, you know, you could
1:45:05
use your medical background to, you know,
1:45:07
help people understand this? And I said,
1:45:10
yeah, I think, I think I might
1:45:12
be able to. And on the flight
1:45:14
home, that was when I actually kind
1:45:16
of pulled out the iPad and I
1:45:19
started typing away, just ideas, free form.
1:45:21
and that became the first few chapters
1:45:23
of the book that I wrote on
1:45:26
injury analysis. There are a lot of
1:45:28
people who cover fantasy baseball and fantasy
1:45:30
sports from the angle of injury management
1:45:33
and many... Maybe even most of them
1:45:35
come at the issue from the perspective
1:45:37
of treatment or repair, physical therapists, surgeons,
1:45:40
chiropractors. You said your specialty is diagnostic
1:45:42
radiography. So what advantages does your professional
1:45:44
medical perspective create for your fantasy sports
1:45:47
injury analysis? Yeah, that's a really good
1:45:49
question. Thank you. So, radiologists are the
1:45:51
doctors that read medical images, like you
1:45:53
get an x-ray or a cat scan
1:45:56
or an MRI, and the technologist is
1:45:58
the person in the room with you
1:46:00
who uses the machine to get the
1:46:03
images, and they send those images to
1:46:05
a doctor. The radiologist, somebody like me,
1:46:07
could be in the next room, he
1:46:10
could be in another state, or in
1:46:12
some cases he could be in another
1:46:14
country. And the radiologist interprets the images
1:46:17
and hopefully finds the issue and reports
1:46:19
it for the patient's doctors. I have
1:46:21
to take in lots of information in
1:46:24
addition to the images, the patient's history,
1:46:26
other medical conditions. If it's an injury,
1:46:28
how did it happen? What are the
1:46:30
doctors concerned about? And I kind of
1:46:33
try to put it all together and
1:46:35
it's like putting the pieces of a
1:46:37
puzzle together. So when I evaluate player
1:46:40
injuries, I do the same thing. I
1:46:42
see how the injury happened. And I'll
1:46:44
usually see the highlight or something like
1:46:47
that or, you know, see it on
1:46:49
social media. I think about what things
1:46:51
might be injured and how bad. And
1:46:54
then the reports come out from the
1:46:56
player, the team, or the manager, and
1:46:58
I run it through the filter, and
1:47:01
it does what they're saying make sense?
1:47:03
Is there something they aren't telling us?
1:47:05
Usually, yes. What else could it be?
1:47:07
Do the timelines fit? And again, it's
1:47:10
like putting the pieces of the puzzle
1:47:12
together. So that's the way that I
1:47:14
kind of approach it, and I think
1:47:17
it's pretty successful. I remember you said
1:47:19
in a couple of places, words to
1:47:21
the effect of most of the time
1:47:24
when you read an injury story online
1:47:26
or in your favorite fantasy baseball analysis
1:47:28
site, the player news of the injury
1:47:31
is announced and they always say we
1:47:33
have to wait for the imaging. And
1:47:35
you're the imager guy. So that seems
1:47:37
to be like putting you in a
1:47:40
fairly unique position in the injury analysis
1:47:42
chain of events. Yeah, I think I
1:47:44
think it really does help and and
1:47:47
I think that once you get the
1:47:49
imaging That's when the diagnosis gets made
1:47:51
that's when the timeline gets established and
1:47:54
that's when the reporting happens and that's
1:47:56
when I get to kind of add
1:47:58
that part to the puzzle and say,
1:48:01
okay, is what they're saying, does it
1:48:03
fit, does it really make sense? And
1:48:05
if not, then what might make more
1:48:08
sense, and that's what I can relay
1:48:10
to, you know, my audience. You're listening
1:48:12
to Baseball HQ Radio Patrick Daven with
1:48:14
Dr. Jim Ferretti, the fantasy sports doc,
1:48:17
a baseball HQ, injuries analyst, and an
1:48:19
author. You mentioned a moment ago your
1:48:21
book, it's called Injuries Suck, but your
1:48:24
fantasy team doesn't have to. And in
1:48:26
it, you say, and I quote, as
1:48:28
fantasy players, we can prevent the potentially
1:48:31
devastating effects of injuries to our rosters.
1:48:33
Okay, it sounds good to me, how
1:48:35
does it work? Yeah, I think I
1:48:38
wanted to speak to the idea that,
1:48:40
you know, with some injury knowledge and
1:48:42
with a framework, it could give fantasy
1:48:45
players a better idea of maybe what
1:48:47
injured players to hold when others might
1:48:49
prematurely cut, you know, cut bait or
1:48:51
things to look out for that might
1:48:54
suggest it's time to move on from
1:48:56
a player. I also tried to capture
1:48:58
that idea with the worry meter that
1:49:01
readers will see in the big hurt
1:49:03
column on HQ by Matt Cedarhome. And
1:49:05
I think. having that gradation or having
1:49:08
that framework or idea, you know, maybe
1:49:10
just how bad something is because as
1:49:12
we're probably going to talk about, sometimes
1:49:15
things sound a little innocuous and they
1:49:17
turn out to be pretty bad and
1:49:19
sometimes things sound worse than they actually
1:49:22
are. So what's the what's a framework
1:49:24
that I can give the audience to
1:49:26
kind of work with and give them
1:49:28
an idea of some things to look
1:49:31
out for when maybe the rehab process
1:49:33
or the recovery process isn't going the
1:49:35
way that we would hope. and maybe
1:49:38
it's now time to reevaluate and make
1:49:40
a different decision. I like that idea
1:49:42
of structured analysis. For me is really
1:49:45
important in fantasy sports and in a
1:49:47
lot of other activities. A particular concern
1:49:49
for fantasy managers can actually be when
1:49:52
the players have returned to the lineup,
1:49:54
you say, how so? Well, I think
1:49:56
we want to think about when when
1:49:59
players come back. There's a
1:50:01
big difference between when something feels
1:50:03
better versus when it's actually healed.
1:50:05
And with most normal people, I'm
1:50:07
using normal in quotes here, but
1:50:09
most people that aren't elite athletes
1:50:11
like baseball players, let's say you
1:50:13
hurt yourself playing pickleball, you go
1:50:15
to the doctor, he checks you
1:50:17
out, there's nothing serious going on,
1:50:19
and what are they gonna say
1:50:22
to you, Patrick? They're gonna say,
1:50:24
hey, why don't you take it
1:50:26
easy for a little while? You
1:50:28
know, ramp up slowly, don't go
1:50:30
full bore. when you get back
1:50:32
on the pickleball court or whatever.
1:50:34
Well, professional athletes do basically the
1:50:36
exact opposite of that. They get
1:50:38
back on the field and then
1:50:40
they go 110% doing exactly what
1:50:42
they did. They cause the injury
1:50:44
in the first place, which ups
1:50:46
their chances of either re-injuring it
1:50:49
or in some cases hurting it
1:50:51
worse. And you said in the
1:50:53
book, in the case of inflammation,
1:50:55
which is really a common problem,
1:50:57
not just for athletes, but just
1:50:59
in general. But in the case
1:51:01
of inflammation, it might be even
1:51:03
particularly bad. Yeah, so with inflammation,
1:51:05
sometimes it can be a little
1:51:07
misleading because number one, it really
1:51:09
hurts. And number two, the treatment
1:51:11
for inflammation in a lot of
1:51:13
cases would be an injection where
1:51:16
you get anti-inflammatory and pain medication,
1:51:18
which whenever anybody gets one of
1:51:20
those, they feel like a million
1:51:22
dollars. So it masks. the symptoms
1:51:24
of what the body is telling
1:51:26
you, hey, you know, you're doing
1:51:28
something and you're doing damage here,
1:51:30
now that's taken away. So now
1:51:32
that that's mass, the player in
1:51:34
a lot of cases can push
1:51:36
too hard and once the pain
1:51:38
medication and the anti-inflammatory is wear
1:51:40
off, now they're in even more
1:51:43
pain and maybe they've done even
1:51:45
more damage. you know to the
1:51:47
injury and then they'll go for
1:51:49
more imaging and say oh well
1:51:51
there wasn't a tear before but
1:51:53
there's one now and now you're
1:51:55
out for a longer period so
1:51:57
that that can be that can
1:51:59
be problematic for sure. At a
1:52:01
high level what is inflammation? It's
1:52:03
basically the tissues that are being
1:52:05
used get angry there. You're over
1:52:07
using them or you're doing something
1:52:10
with them that you shouldn't and
1:52:12
they're letting you know that you
1:52:14
shouldn't do you shouldn't be doing
1:52:16
that so much Which in the
1:52:18
case of professional athletes is a
1:52:20
problem because the thing that they're
1:52:22
doing is the thing that we
1:52:24
want them to do. They're throwing
1:52:26
the bowl really hard. They're swinging
1:52:28
the bat really hard and trying
1:52:30
to hit the bowl really far
1:52:32
So we want them to keep
1:52:34
doing those things, but their body
1:52:37
is telling them that they shouldn't
1:52:39
because they're doing damage to the
1:52:41
tissues, unfortunately, and that's the issue.
1:52:43
Is it in part or at
1:52:45
all an autoimmune situation? Sometimes it
1:52:47
can be, but in most cases
1:52:49
in sports, it's due to overuse
1:52:51
and it's because of the fact
1:52:53
that the players can use extreme
1:52:55
amounts of force and torque and...
1:52:57
and rotation in order to kind
1:52:59
of do what they do. And
1:53:01
it's something that you or I,
1:53:04
or well, I can't, I know
1:53:06
you're a much better athlete than
1:53:08
I was, but it's something that
1:53:10
most people can't do, we physically
1:53:12
can't do it, we can't generate
1:53:14
these forces, so we can't hurt
1:53:16
ourselves in this way, but they
1:53:18
can, and in some cases they
1:53:20
do. A lot of times when
1:53:22
we read an injury report in
1:53:24
the media or online in our
1:53:26
favorite sites, We get a report
1:53:29
that says there was imaging done
1:53:31
and there's no structural damage, which
1:53:33
always sounds like good news about
1:53:35
a player, but you say in
1:53:37
your book, often it isn't good
1:53:39
news or at least not as
1:53:41
good as it seems. I know,
1:53:43
isn't that frustrating? It sounds like
1:53:45
good news, right? Your player gets
1:53:47
hurt. He goes for imaging and
1:53:49
they say no structural damage. Great,
1:53:51
I can I can breathe a
1:53:53
sigh or relief. Well, not so
1:53:56
much. So, the issue is is
1:53:58
that there really isn't... a such
1:54:00
thing in medical imaging is no
1:54:02
structural damage. Like I'd never put
1:54:04
that in one of my reports.
1:54:06
structural damage seen. Things like inflammation
1:54:08
and grade one injuries which are
1:54:10
actually micro tears of a muscle
1:54:12
tendon or ligament technically are no
1:54:14
structural damage but there can still
1:54:16
be a significant injury there in
1:54:18
the case of inflammation or a
1:54:20
grade one injury that can keep
1:54:23
players out for weeks or in
1:54:25
some cases months. So it sounds
1:54:27
reassuring but in a lot of
1:54:29
cases it really isn't. In a
1:54:31
related vein, news of a negative
1:54:33
x-ray often isn't as good as
1:54:35
it sounds either. Same thing? Well,
1:54:37
same neighborhood, different street. So x-rays
1:54:39
are really good at looking at
1:54:41
bones and joints, but it isn't
1:54:43
really that good at looking at
1:54:45
soft tissues, muscles, ligaments, tendons. things
1:54:47
like that. So I think a
1:54:50
lot of our audience can see
1:54:52
how that could be falsely misleading.
1:54:54
If a pitcher left the game
1:54:56
with an elbow injury and the
1:54:58
x-rays were negative, I wouldn't be
1:55:00
very reassured by that. I guess
1:55:02
it tells me a little that
1:55:04
there's no broken bone, but I'm
1:55:06
more worried about, but I'm more
1:55:08
worried about the broken bone, but
1:55:10
I'm more worried about the soft
1:55:12
tissues, the ligaments, like the ulnar
1:55:14
collateral ligament for example, and it's
1:55:17
the MRI that, but... But that's
1:55:19
really what's going on. And what
1:55:21
should we think about a player
1:55:23
who is listed on the injury
1:55:25
report as day to day? That's
1:55:27
actually one of my favorite ones,
1:55:29
Patrick. I mean, we're all day
1:55:31
to day, right? Like your day
1:55:33
to day on day to day.
1:55:35
It literally doesn't tell us anything.
1:55:37
Basically, it's a fancy way to
1:55:39
say something like, I don't know,
1:55:41
we're waiting on more information without
1:55:44
inviting more questions from whoever is
1:55:46
asking. everybody that's listening nothing, but
1:55:48
it also invites no more questions
1:55:50
that you probably don't want to
1:55:52
answer and it kind of shuts
1:55:54
down the whole conversation. So it's
1:55:56
just like, well, he's day to
1:55:58
day and let's move on. So
1:56:00
we haven't really learned anything. And
1:56:02
then we find out later, you know,
1:56:04
maybe what's really going on. But
1:56:07
sometimes it really is just a day-to-day
1:56:09
thing, a stub toe or something relatively
1:56:11
minor that if it were you or
1:56:13
me, we would just kind of limp
1:56:16
around a bit and not and take
1:56:18
it a little easy for a day
1:56:20
or three and then pretty much heal
1:56:22
ourselves. I mean, that could
1:56:24
happen to a professional athlete
1:56:26
of baseball player. Yep, that would
1:56:29
be a one on the worryometer.
1:56:31
By the way, when you said, we all
1:56:33
live day to day, at my age,
1:56:36
I live hour to hour, so. It's
1:56:38
getting to that point. I'm just worried
1:56:40
about minute to minute coming up. But
1:56:42
you said in the book when we
1:56:45
hear that a player has a bone
1:56:47
bruise, which sounds bad enough, we should
1:56:49
think of it as something even worse,
1:56:52
an incomplete fracture. How does that work?
1:56:54
Yeah, so most bones have a dense
1:56:56
outer part, but the inner part
1:56:58
is kind of like a honeycomb
1:57:00
or a sponge. It's still hard,
1:57:02
but there are a lot of
1:57:05
pockets in there for marrow, blood
1:57:07
vessels, and nerves. So when you
1:57:09
break a bone completely, the break
1:57:11
involves the outer part and the
1:57:13
inner part, with a bone bruise,
1:57:15
the inner part, the inner part, the
1:57:17
inner part, the inner part of
1:57:20
the bone breaks, so those
1:57:22
honeycomb areas are broken, but
1:57:24
the outer part stays intact,
1:57:26
so Bone Bruce is a little
1:57:28
misleading. It sounds kind of innocuous,
1:57:30
but you're still dealing with a
1:57:32
broken bone and we know that they
1:57:35
can take a while to heal. You
1:57:37
say that we as fantasy managers need
1:57:39
to take very seriously when we hear
1:57:41
news of a foot injury or sprain.
1:57:43
What's the big deal with feet? Well, what's
1:57:45
brain? I think to some people maybe
1:57:48
it doesn't sound so bad. You know,
1:57:50
somebody hurts their foot and you find
1:57:52
out there's a sprain. Well, at least
1:57:55
it's not broken. And maybe it's more
1:57:57
of a football injury than a baseball
1:57:59
injury, but there. there's a little ligament
1:58:01
in the mid portion of the foot
1:58:03
called the Liz Frank ligament, which kind
1:58:06
of holds the whole middle portion of
1:58:08
the foot together. So again, more of
1:58:10
a football thing, but baseball players can
1:58:12
get it too. I remember J.D. Martinez
1:58:15
had it back when he was with
1:58:17
Detroit, and it's a really important structure.
1:58:19
Best case scenario with just a sprain,
1:58:22
it can take months to heal in
1:58:24
the best case, and worst case when
1:58:26
it's completely torn. the player usually needs
1:58:29
surgery and is done for the year.
1:58:31
So that's why whenever I hear foot
1:58:33
sprained, red flags go up immediately and
1:58:35
I start thinking, could this be a
1:58:38
Liz Frank injury? Because I know that
1:58:40
it's going to be a long road
1:58:42
back if it is. One foot injury
1:58:45
that I've seen fairly commonly in baseball
1:58:47
injury reports and I'm thinking back to
1:58:49
Mark McGuires, planter fasciitis. What is the
1:58:51
deal with planter fasciitis? Yeah, so that's
1:58:54
and I think that's something that a
1:58:56
lot of people have. But it's an
1:58:58
inflammation of the tissue that's on the
1:59:01
underside of the foot, the part that
1:59:03
you walk on. And the problem is,
1:59:05
is that there's not really a whole
1:59:08
lot that you can do to kind
1:59:10
of rest that, because you need to
1:59:12
be on your feet and you need
1:59:14
to walk around. So any time you
1:59:17
do something, you inflame the injury. And
1:59:19
baseball players are on their feet. At
1:59:21
the very least, Mark McGuire had to
1:59:24
stand at first base and... and at
1:59:26
least try to move around a little
1:59:28
bit. So even just that is enough
1:59:30
to, you know, continue to re aggravate
1:59:33
things. And in some cases, it gets
1:59:35
so bad that players need surgery, but
1:59:37
it's really something that it's hard to
1:59:40
rest, it's hard to treat, and in
1:59:42
a lot of cases, it takes a
1:59:44
really long time to recover from, and
1:59:47
it could be pretty debilitating. Yeah, now
1:59:49
that we're talking about it. I think
1:59:51
I remember Albert Puhl's had a fairly
1:59:53
bad case and I remember reading at
1:59:56
the time that really he should take
1:59:58
the rest of the season off, but
2:00:00
his teams in a pennant race, you
2:00:03
know, he didn't. and they just guts
2:00:05
it up and go back out there
2:00:07
even though it hurts. And as you
2:00:09
said, it just gets worse and worse.
2:00:12
And is the off-season enough time for
2:00:14
that to recover? Usually it is. And
2:00:16
you have to give these guys credit
2:00:19
too, because this is stuff that really,
2:00:21
you know, again, I say normal people,
2:00:23
but it knocks people out for weeks
2:00:26
or months, and that's, you know, they're
2:00:28
pretty much bedridden. You know, these guys
2:00:30
are out there still running around and,
2:00:32
you know, playing sports at an elite
2:00:35
level, you know, with that, even with
2:00:37
treatment and things like that. Usually, in
2:00:39
the off season, it's enough to have
2:00:42
it rest and recover, but, you know,
2:00:44
as we've kind of already alluded to,
2:00:46
what happens once the season starts up
2:00:48
again? The thing that caused the pain
2:00:51
and the inflammation and the injury, they're
2:00:53
right back to doing that again at
2:00:55
a really, really intense level. and sometimes
2:00:58
it can come right back. Could they
2:01:00
put some kind of padded insul into
2:01:02
the shoe or an orthotic of some
2:01:05
kind to try to address the issue
2:01:07
at least at its source? Yeah, and
2:01:09
they do. There's definitely treatments for it
2:01:11
and inserts and in some cases injections
2:01:14
and things like that can offer some
2:01:16
relief, but it's really hard to treat
2:01:18
and it's something that... can have a
2:01:21
really really long recovery even with kind
2:01:23
of the best treatments possible. I know
2:01:25
from a different situation that fascia usually
2:01:27
refers to a sheath of some kind
2:01:30
on a is that what is that
2:01:32
what's actually inflamed here is the sheathing
2:01:34
around the thing or is it the
2:01:37
thing itself? No it's that's exactly right
2:01:39
fashion is almost like the way I
2:01:41
kind of think about you know and
2:01:44
analogizing it for people it's almost like
2:01:46
a seran wrap like covering around structures.
2:01:48
So, you know, it's just this thin
2:01:50
sheet that attaches things or goes around
2:01:53
things like muscles or other soft tissues
2:01:55
and And you know, sometimes it gets
2:01:57
angry and when it gets angry, it'll
2:02:00
let you know. Is the purpose of
2:02:02
it protective? It's usually just kind of
2:02:04
hold things together. Oh, okay. Speaking of
2:02:06
feet, when a player suffers a metatarso
2:02:09
phalangeal joint sprain, you say we need
2:02:11
to be on our toes. Why is
2:02:13
that? Really well done. Thank you. That
2:02:16
is not easy. Yeah, metatarsofalangio joint sprain,
2:02:18
also known as turf toe. That rolls
2:02:20
off the tongue a little bit easier.
2:02:23
But again, it doesn't sound that bad,
2:02:25
right? Oh, it's a little case of
2:02:27
turf toe. Well, the problem is that
2:02:29
it hurts really bad. It takes a
2:02:32
long time to heal. And in some
2:02:34
cases, bad cases need surgery in months
2:02:36
of recovery. It actually is tears of
2:02:39
the ligament on the underside of your
2:02:41
foot, that these little tiny ligaments that
2:02:43
connect the bones in your toe. and
2:02:45
in some cases they're injured bad enough
2:02:48
that no amount of rest is going
2:02:50
to fix it and need surgery and
2:02:52
months of recovery. So we have forearm
2:02:55
strains, forearm inflammation, common flexor tendon injuries,
2:02:57
flexor mass strains, pronator strains. We hear
2:02:59
all of this kind of stuff with
2:03:02
regard to pictures and they're all red
2:03:04
flags you say. I think many listeners
2:03:06
and I know why but why. Well,
2:03:08
yeah, we know why because it's Usually
2:03:11
associated with injuries to the UCL at
2:03:13
the on the collateral ligament and what
2:03:15
happens is it can either be the
2:03:18
mechanism of injury that affected those structures
2:03:20
and what the flexor master the flexor
2:03:22
tendon is it's the forearm tendons Come
2:03:24
together and they actually attach on the
2:03:27
inner part of the elbow, which is
2:03:29
the same area where the on the
2:03:31
on the collateral ligament is So either
2:03:34
through the mechanism of that being injured,
2:03:36
the owner collateral ligament can be injured
2:03:38
at the same time, or because they're
2:03:41
so close together. injury to the common
2:03:43
flexor tendon can obscure an omic collateral
2:03:45
ligament injury. So you see it and
2:03:47
you say, oh, it looks like a
2:03:50
flexor tendon sprain, we'll rest it, we'll
2:03:52
give the guy a chance to recover,
2:03:54
we'll come back for some more imaging,
2:03:57
either because the player then starts to
2:03:59
try to throw again and he's not
2:04:01
able to or he's having pain still,
2:04:03
and then you go back and look
2:04:06
and now the flexor tendon injury is
2:04:08
healed. underneath that is the only collateral
2:04:10
ligament and that's injured too and now
2:04:13
we got a bigger problem. And the
2:04:15
bigger problem is UCL terror or something
2:04:17
like that. Yeah, UCL injury. Yeah, UCL
2:04:20
injury that needs some sort of repair,
2:04:22
whether it now being an internal brace
2:04:24
or a full replacement, which is the
2:04:26
the Tommy John surgery. If a pitcher
2:04:29
has Tommy John surgery, it's roughly a
2:04:31
12 to 18 month recovery period and
2:04:33
probably closer to 18 than it is
2:04:36
to 12 usually. Are there any other
2:04:38
baseball injuries that happen regularly or at
2:04:40
least often enough that they happen and
2:04:42
we see about it and have such
2:04:45
long recovery times? Well I can think
2:04:47
of a couple. Rotator cuff injuries usually
2:04:49
have a really long timeline. Labor repair
2:04:52
repairs in the shoulder. Also, a pretty
2:04:54
significant timeline. Therastic outlet injury or thoracic
2:04:56
outlet syndrome is another one that's become
2:04:59
more common more recently. So the surgery
2:05:01
for that is pretty extended. Can you
2:05:03
think of any other ones, Patrick? I
2:05:05
can't, but the thoracic outlet one is
2:05:08
interesting. I remember the first time I
2:05:10
heard about it, I read about it
2:05:12
and basically they're sawing off a part
2:05:15
of your rib to make room for
2:05:17
nerves and whatever is going up into
2:05:19
your shoulder. And correct me if I'm
2:05:21
wrong about that, but it's no wonder
2:05:24
it's very serious surgery when you start
2:05:26
cutting people's ribs out. Yeah, it's pretty
2:05:28
serious. It's definitely something that it sounds...
2:05:31
When you think about it in those
2:05:33
terms, it's like, well, there must be
2:05:35
something really wrong here if we're going
2:05:38
to, you know, we're going to take
2:05:40
out part of somebody's rib and that's
2:05:42
going to fix it. But yeah, that's
2:05:44
basically what's going on. Just before opening
2:05:47
day in North America, Detroit second baseman
2:05:49
Glabor Torres went on the IEL with
2:05:51
an oblique strain, and this seems like
2:05:54
a very common injury. We read about
2:05:56
it all the time, and I checked
2:05:58
into it. of 103 aisle stints listed
2:06:00
so far this year, 69 of them
2:06:03
were no timetable for return for were
2:06:05
at least in quote some time period
2:06:07
and so on. Why the vagueness in
2:06:10
terms of when this player's going to
2:06:12
come back? Well I think in a
2:06:14
lot of cases they're not really sure.
2:06:17
They kind of have a rough idea
2:06:19
and once you put a timetable on
2:06:21
a player injury, once that timetable passes...
2:06:23
then that's when it invites more questions.
2:06:26
It kind of reminds me of, and
2:06:28
you'll appreciate this, I don't know how
2:06:30
many, members of the audience are old
2:06:33
enough, but the old Henny Youngman joke,
2:06:35
I went to the doctor and he
2:06:37
gave me six months to live and
2:06:39
then I couldn't pay the bill so
2:06:42
he gave me six more months. Yeah.
2:06:44
But yeah, once you kind of establish
2:06:46
a time period, that's when people start
2:06:49
expecting the player to be back and
2:06:51
if he's not, then they start asking
2:06:53
questions. So I think that has a
2:06:56
big part of it. you know, talking
2:06:58
about comedians and injuries. Rodney Dangerfield had
2:07:00
a joke where he said, I went
2:07:02
to my doctor, I said, doctor, it
2:07:05
hurts when I do this. The doctor
2:07:07
said, don't do that. Which actually is
2:07:09
not bad advice if you're having inflammation
2:07:12
from a repetitive motion, right? I mean,
2:07:14
just stop doing what it is that's
2:07:16
causing you your trouble. It's a pretty
2:07:18
sound medical opinion if you think about
2:07:21
it that way. So as we make
2:07:23
our roster decisions in the year, how
2:07:25
should we be applying are understanding that
2:07:28
these return dates have very wide error
2:07:30
bars. How do we deal with that?
2:07:32
I think we kind of mentioned it.
2:07:35
the top, the idea is like having
2:07:37
a framework and just kind of a
2:07:39
rough idea of how long things are
2:07:41
supposed to take. And that to me
2:07:44
is a big part of it because
2:07:46
then you won't necessarily be misled when
2:07:48
you hear somebody say, oh, I have
2:07:51
a grade two strain in my oblique,
2:07:53
but I should be back in two
2:07:55
weeks. That usually doesn't jot. And I
2:07:57
think most people kind of know that,
2:08:00
but Sometimes you learn it the hard
2:08:02
way and I even learned it the
2:08:04
hard way myself. Part of the reason
2:08:07
that I got into doing injury analysis
2:08:09
for fantasy baseball was because I wasn't
2:08:11
always a doctor and I was playing
2:08:14
fantasy sports for a long time before
2:08:16
I went to medical school. So I
2:08:18
had the same thing happened to me.
2:08:20
I would see interviews with the player
2:08:23
and he'd say, oh, I feel fine
2:08:25
and then he would be out for
2:08:27
two months or he would be out
2:08:30
for two months or he would be
2:08:32
out for two months. wanted to try
2:08:34
to establish ways to kind of go
2:08:36
about these injuries in a systematic way
2:08:39
and give people the idea of how
2:08:41
to do that and how to look
2:08:43
out for certain things and that's really
2:08:46
a lot of what I put into
2:08:48
the book. You're listening to BaseballHQ Radio
2:08:50
on Patrick Daven with Dr. Jim Ferretti,
2:08:53
the fantasy sports doc, an injuries analyst
2:08:55
for BaseballHQ, and the author of the
2:08:57
book Injury Suck, but your fantasy team
2:08:59
doesn't have to. I always like to
2:09:02
wrap up these discussions, Doc, by looking
2:09:04
at some boons and bains, and in
2:09:06
honor of your professional standing, let's say
2:09:09
a boon is a currently injured player,
2:09:11
you think will get back on the
2:09:13
field and be a contributor. Who's a
2:09:15
hitter who's in that situation who could
2:09:18
be a boon? Well, I think this
2:09:20
one would have sounded a lot better
2:09:22
a couple of weeks ago. We kind
2:09:25
of were talking about maybe we were
2:09:27
going to meet a little bit earlier
2:09:29
and things got pushed back a little
2:09:32
bit. His draft price was depressed all
2:09:34
season, but it looks like he's ready
2:09:36
to come back pretty soon, maybe even
2:09:38
today. So. So while he may not
2:09:41
have the best average, he's got 20-20
2:09:43
potential rest of the season, but one
2:09:45
that's a little bit better and maybe
2:09:48
a little more actionable for the audience
2:09:50
along the same lines is Hasan Kim
2:09:52
of Tampa Bay. And his price was
2:09:54
way depressed during draft season, rightfully so,
2:09:57
because he was late to sign and
2:09:59
had shoulder surgery in the off season,
2:10:01
but some people took him completely off
2:10:04
the board. draft wise and I think
2:10:06
that was probably too aggressive. I saw
2:10:08
him going in in the 20s rounds
2:10:11
of 15 team leagues and I grabbed
2:10:13
him there in a decent amount of
2:10:15
spots. By the end of spring training
2:10:17
he was throwing, hitting, doing fielding drills.
2:10:20
It looks like he's going to be
2:10:22
ready in a few weeks and he
2:10:24
still got the chance to hit double-digit
2:10:27
home runs and steal 20 plus bases
2:10:29
with a decent batting average. So I
2:10:31
think once he gets back out there,
2:10:33
he'll be all right. In the interest
2:10:36
of protecting themselves from injury or the
2:10:38
team trying to protect a player from
2:10:40
injury, they say, you know, cool it
2:10:43
on the base paths for now. Don't
2:10:45
go out there stealing bases because of
2:10:47
the, you know, the sudden starts and
2:10:50
then you bang your body into the
2:10:52
ground when you slide and you hit
2:10:54
the bag with your hands and, you
2:10:56
know, there's all kinds of finger injury
2:10:59
possibilities. Do we need to be a
2:11:01
little more concerned about a stolen base
2:11:03
guy returning from injury than some other
2:11:06
kind of player? I think it's really
2:11:08
team dependent. I haven't done a whole
2:11:10
lot of study, you know, analysis on
2:11:12
any of this, but I think there
2:11:15
have definitely been some some work done
2:11:17
by some people that are a lot
2:11:19
smarter than I am in this area.
2:11:22
But it has to do with, you
2:11:24
know, how much the team runs in
2:11:26
the spring and it seems like some
2:11:29
teams like Washington, for example, they really
2:11:31
just embraced the idea of the stolen
2:11:33
base. So you had guys that never
2:11:35
stole bases before like Jesse Winker get
2:11:38
lay. I think it was like 14
2:11:40
stolen bases last year. So if he
2:11:42
can do it, I think guys that
2:11:45
actually are fast, then they come back.
2:11:47
If it's a team concept thing, I
2:11:49
think that once they're back out there,
2:11:51
it's like. all systems you go, like
2:11:54
get out there a young man and
2:11:56
go still some bases and let's let's
2:11:58
score some runs and win some games.
2:12:01
Staying with this doc, the incentive for
2:12:03
the team is to get the guy
2:12:05
back on the field in the short
2:12:07
term, but they have a disincentive to
2:12:10
do it in the long term, especially
2:12:12
if the players under a fairly lengthy
2:12:14
contract, because they're interchangeable pieces for the
2:12:17
manager on the day. but they're an
2:12:19
asset to the organization in the longer
2:12:21
run. So if you were in a
2:12:24
position to advise a team about when
2:12:26
a guy should go back out there,
2:12:28
start running and stealing bases, or just
2:12:30
playing at all for that matter, if
2:12:33
he's a pitcher, get back on the
2:12:35
mound, I know it's a case-by-case thing,
2:12:37
but what would your general philosophy be?
2:12:40
Air on the side of caution or
2:12:42
be aggressive? No, I think that's such
2:12:44
a good question. you know, I think
2:12:46
that you want to come to players
2:12:49
and, you know, us as fantasy players,
2:12:51
the coaches, the front office people, we
2:12:53
all have different motivations. So the thing
2:12:56
is, is that I think one of
2:12:58
the things that hopefully the audience can
2:13:00
take away is that baseball players want
2:13:03
to play. Like it's their livelihood, it's
2:13:05
their passion, they've dedicated the majority of
2:13:07
their life to doing this thing, just
2:13:09
like I've dedicated the majority of my
2:13:12
life to medicine. that's the way that
2:13:14
they approach life. So when they want
2:13:16
to come back and they feel like
2:13:19
they're ready to come back, then it's
2:13:21
almost doing them a disservice to kind
2:13:23
of tell them to go halfway in
2:13:25
most cases or not to go all
2:13:28
out. It's they really just want to
2:13:30
go out there and play to the
2:13:32
best of their abilities, not just for
2:13:35
the team, but also for themselves. It's
2:13:37
kind of something similar we see with
2:13:39
pictures where. you know there's been a
2:13:42
lot of talk about increased velocity leads
2:13:44
to increased arm injuries so maybe don't
2:13:46
throw as hard and the pictures kind
2:13:48
of look a little sideways and say,
2:13:51
what do you mean? Don't throw so
2:13:53
hard. This is what I do. I
2:13:55
throw the ball hard, so the other
2:13:58
guy doesn't hit it to next Tuesday.
2:14:00
That's what I do. So I'm gonna
2:14:02
throw it hard, and if I get
2:14:04
hurt, I get hurt. Yeah, I think
2:14:07
that's right. As I said earlier, I
2:14:09
think there's a big short-term versus long-term
2:14:11
view that. people have to take and
2:14:14
maybe if you're a younger player because
2:14:16
when we're young we're invincible maybe they're
2:14:18
a little harder to convince that you
2:14:21
you need to take it easy for
2:14:23
even though you're back on the field
2:14:25
you're off the aisle you still need
2:14:27
to take it easy you're off the
2:14:30
aisle you still need to take it
2:14:32
easy you still need to do your
2:14:34
physio all those kind of things and
2:14:37
when I was young I listened all
2:14:39
that and said yeah and went on
2:14:41
started throwing the football again so it's
2:14:43
a little more willing to address the
2:14:46
idea that their career is going to
2:14:48
be finite and if they go out
2:14:50
and wreck it by throwing hard when
2:14:53
they shouldn't, they're cutting themselves out of
2:14:55
a few million bucks. So, and the
2:14:57
fun of playing as well. Yeah. To
2:15:00
continue our boons, who's a pitcher who
2:15:02
could be an injury related boom? Spencer
2:15:04
Strider seemed like more of a hot
2:15:06
take a few months ago when I
2:15:09
was taking him in drafts. We didn't
2:15:11
get a chance to dive into UCL
2:15:13
repair. with Tommy John versus internal brace,
2:15:16
but I'm putting something together on that.
2:15:18
So a little foreshadowing there. I want
2:15:20
to gather some more player data from
2:15:22
this season, but it should be ready
2:15:25
for prime time later in the year.
2:15:27
But he's almost back. So I'm going
2:15:29
to cheat again, Patrick, and I'll give
2:15:32
you another one. Felix Bautista. UCL repair
2:15:34
in August of 2023. So like we
2:15:36
talked about, it's been 18 or 19
2:15:39
months now. We've seen and studies have
2:15:41
shown that velocity isn't affected. post Tommy
2:15:43
John surgery, breaking stuff usually isn't as
2:15:45
well. He's so talented that even if
2:15:48
you bump up his ERA and whip
2:15:50
a little bit and you shave off
2:15:52
some saves from not going on back
2:15:55
to back days, I'm pretty optimistic he's
2:15:57
gonna have some really good numbers by
2:15:59
years. Okay, let's say Baines
2:16:01
are going to be players who are
2:16:04
either currently injured or at high injury
2:16:06
risk, so much so that you would
2:16:08
advise against rostering them. Let's start with
2:16:10
a hitter who could be an injury-related
2:16:13
Bain. These are always tough, right? But
2:16:15
I'm going to say Parker Meadows, the
2:16:17
outfielder for Detroit. He has this vague
2:16:19
nerve issue. My question is, why does
2:16:22
a 25-year-old kid all of a sudden
2:16:24
have a nerve issue in his arm?
2:16:26
the timetable just keeps getting longer. There's
2:16:28
no firm diagnosis that I've seen and
2:16:30
it's been a couple of months already.
2:16:33
There's just way too many questions here
2:16:35
and it seems like every time we
2:16:37
get a report the news is just
2:16:39
getting worse. He's not responding or he's
2:16:42
not quite there yet, but we're not
2:16:44
really sure why and we don't know
2:16:46
what's going on there and there's a
2:16:48
lot of things I could speculate on
2:16:51
what it might be, but I have
2:16:53
an underlying suspicion that whatever it ultimately
2:16:55
is, it's going to be something bad.
2:16:58
I would have bet money that
2:17:00
you were going to pick a
2:17:02
Minnesota twin for this, either Buxton
2:17:04
or Royce Lewis. Where's the fun
2:17:06
in that, Patrick? I suppose, but
2:17:09
the news was that Byron Buxton
2:17:11
came back this year for the
2:17:13
first time not having had any
2:17:15
surgeries or medical procedures in the
2:17:17
off-season, and best shape of his
2:17:19
life, and I've never felt better
2:17:21
that kind of stuff, which always,
2:17:23
what they always say, but when
2:17:26
a player of Buxton's injury history...
2:17:28
comes back and there's a material
2:17:30
change in what happened before he
2:17:32
came back, i.e. he didn't have
2:17:34
surgery, how much do you alter
2:17:36
your general impression of the guy
2:17:38
as an injury risk? Well, I
2:17:40
don't think that the injury risk
2:17:43
necessarily changes, but this is one
2:17:45
of the principles that I adhere
2:17:47
to when I think about injured
2:17:49
players and taking injured players in
2:17:51
the drafts, you know, in the
2:17:53
pre-draft process and on the drafts,
2:17:55
it's acquisition cost. and opportunity cost.
2:17:57
So in the case of somebody
2:18:00
like Byron Buxton, because he's been
2:18:02
chronic and had all these issues
2:18:04
over multiple years, his draft price
2:18:06
compared to his talent level has
2:18:08
gone way down. So I'm actually
2:18:10
kind of interested in Byron Buxton
2:18:12
now because he's either hurt people
2:18:15
before and they're off of them
2:18:17
or he's because he's been injured,
2:18:19
a lot of players will just
2:18:21
take them off their board completely.
2:18:23
So the acquisition cost is way
2:18:25
low. And if we just happen
2:18:27
to get a stretch where he
2:18:29
manages to stay healthy by some...
2:18:32
low percentage chance he could be
2:18:34
really really good at a really
2:18:36
low cost so those are the
2:18:38
kind of players I get really
2:18:40
interested in. I got him in
2:18:42
a ale-only auction for $13 and
2:18:44
I have him if he gets
2:18:46
600 plate appearances being like a
2:18:49
25 or 26 dollar player so
2:18:51
yeah from your lips to God's
2:18:53
ears as they say finally how
2:18:55
about a pitcher this season who
2:18:57
could be an injury bane? Yeah
2:18:59
for this one I'm gonna go
2:19:01
with George Kirby of Seattle. So
2:19:03
it started out, you know, relatively
2:19:06
innocuous shoulder injury, negative MRI. He
2:19:08
wanted to pitch through it, but
2:19:10
got overruled. So it didn't sound
2:19:12
so bad, maybe a couple of
2:19:14
days. Then he gets a PRP
2:19:16
injection. Then it was supposed to
2:19:18
be a few more days. Then
2:19:20
it was mid-April. Now it's supposed
2:19:23
to be sometime in May. And
2:19:25
like we talked about, he missed
2:19:27
all of spring training. He still
2:19:29
needs to build up and there's
2:19:31
a lot of hurdles left where
2:19:33
something could go wrong and what's
2:19:35
he gonna What's he rushing back
2:19:37
to get to to do the
2:19:40
thing that caused the injury in
2:19:42
the first place? So, you know,
2:19:44
definitely a lot of worry there
2:19:46
and and he could still You
2:19:48
know injure himself worse or and
2:19:50
this is the thing I think
2:19:52
a lot of people forget about
2:19:54
look at Kodai Senga last year.
2:19:57
He heard his shoulder his shoulder
2:19:59
heels he comes back and he
2:20:01
injuries his calf and now he's
2:20:03
out for the year. So just
2:20:05
because, you know, George Kirby's dealing
2:20:07
with a shoulder injury doesn't mean
2:20:09
he can't come back with a
2:20:11
shoulder healed and then injure something
2:20:14
else. So he's. at risk for
2:20:16
all those things. So in drafts,
2:20:18
I saw the price come way
2:20:20
down. It came down to the
2:20:22
ninth or tenth round. It wasn't
2:20:24
terrible, but I still couldn't get
2:20:26
there to take them because the
2:20:28
opportunity cost of the guys I
2:20:31
was passing up was too high.
2:20:33
If it went down a little
2:20:35
bit further, maybe I would have
2:20:37
taken the shot. But that's kind
2:20:39
of the way that I approached
2:20:41
it. But the more time goes
2:20:43
on, the less optimistic I am
2:20:45
that we're going to see, you
2:20:48
know, you know, no issues from
2:20:50
him. you know, rock it back
2:20:52
to being the George Kirby that
2:20:54
we all know and that elite
2:20:56
performer for this year anyway. Something
2:20:58
you said there, I wanted to
2:21:00
ask you about, and it has
2:21:02
to do with the kinetic chain
2:21:05
and the transfer of injury from
2:21:07
one joint to the other as
2:21:09
you try, as you baby the
2:21:11
injured part, it changes some part
2:21:13
of your mechanics which causes something
2:21:15
farther down the chain or something
2:21:17
earlier in the chain. I suppose
2:21:19
for that matter. to become injured
2:21:22
in its turn? And how does
2:21:24
all that work? Yeah, it's really
2:21:26
interesting. That's such a good question.
2:21:28
When we watch these guys play,
2:21:30
when we watch baseball players play,
2:21:32
they make it look so easy.
2:21:34
Everything is so smooth. When they
2:21:37
throw, you know, they talk about
2:21:39
easy velocity, you know, he's throwing
2:21:41
98 and it looks easy. It
2:21:43
may look easy, but it's not.
2:21:45
They are generating a tremendous amount
2:21:47
of force to get these. things
2:21:49
to propel the baseball to hit
2:21:51
the baseball as hard and as
2:21:54
far as they do. That's a
2:21:56
really, really delicate system. And I
2:21:58
was reading an article and I
2:22:00
can share it with you at
2:22:02
some point that said that most
2:22:04
or almost all major league pitchers
2:22:06
generate just on normal throwing over
2:22:08
twice the amount of force that
2:22:11
it takes to tear the UCL.
2:22:13
So that's the level of force
2:22:15
that we're dealing with. That's a
2:22:17
really really delicate system when you
2:22:19
have an injury. If you alter
2:22:21
that system, even unconsciously in some
2:22:23
cases, it doesn't take much to
2:22:25
have all that force shift to
2:22:28
an area where it probably doesn't
2:22:30
want to be and cause a
2:22:32
lot more damage. So that's kind
2:22:34
of a rough and dirty way
2:22:36
of explaining the kinetic chain where
2:22:38
you can either have a conscious
2:22:40
change in mechanics which leads to
2:22:42
an injury or in some cases
2:22:45
an unconscious change where the body
2:22:47
is just compensating a little bit.
2:22:49
which leads to in some cases
2:22:51
a catastrophic injury somewhere else. Last
2:22:53
year, somebody had a Tommy John
2:22:55
surgery, it might have been Strider,
2:22:57
and I talked on the show
2:22:59
with a guy, his name is
2:23:02
Dr. Peter Chalmers, and he's a
2:23:04
shoulder and elbow specialist, a baseball
2:23:06
surgeon basically. And he said, he
2:23:08
figured that the next step in
2:23:10
Tommy John repair, or UCL therapy.
2:23:12
is going to be, and this
2:23:14
sounds strange to me even as
2:23:16
I say it, an amalgam of
2:23:19
man-made artificial fibers and a UCL
2:23:21
grown together in like a Petri
2:23:23
dish to make it stronger and
2:23:25
then he said there's still a
2:23:27
worry about the attachment points because
2:23:29
it's very difficult to do that
2:23:31
with at that point. But he
2:23:33
said the tear is usually somewhere
2:23:36
in the middle rather than at
2:23:38
the attachment points and he said
2:23:40
there's... research being done not just
2:23:42
for baseball but the idea of
2:23:44
marrying a patient's human tissue with
2:23:46
some kind of artificial stronger thing
2:23:48
like Kevlar for instance is one
2:23:50
of the one of the things
2:23:53
that got mentioned so I thought
2:23:55
I thought that was pretty interesting
2:23:57
and it's obviously fairly far down
2:23:59
the road but he also made
2:24:01
the same point you did that
2:24:03
the UCL is simply not strong
2:24:05
enough to handle the enormous stresses
2:24:07
that baseball pitching brings to bear
2:24:10
on it. Yeah, and I I
2:24:12
think that that's that's really interesting.
2:24:14
And I kind of underscored something
2:24:16
that I wanted to say. One
2:24:18
thing is about 30 or 40
2:24:20
years ago when they did the
2:24:22
first time of John's surgery, if
2:24:24
you would have told people, we're
2:24:27
going to take a ligament from
2:24:29
one part of a person's body,
2:24:31
we're going to drill some holes
2:24:33
in the body, we're going to
2:24:35
drill some holes in the elbow
2:24:37
and run it through there, and
2:24:39
we're going to drill some holes
2:24:41
in the elbow and run it
2:24:44
through there. They might be growing
2:24:46
new ligaments and Petri dishes and,
2:24:48
you know, from your own tissue
2:24:50
or, you know, God knows what,
2:24:52
but more germane to fantasy baseball.
2:24:54
I think this is really important.
2:24:56
The idea that there are, quote
2:24:59
unquote, safe players, especially pitchers, it
2:25:01
really doesn't exist. I mean, we're
2:25:03
talking about players that are injury
2:25:05
prone. They're really just on the
2:25:07
margins. And I think the forecaster
2:25:09
sumted up best. and it's probably
2:25:11
something that gets overlooked and it's
2:25:13
a great quote. It says there's
2:25:16
two types of pitchers, pitchers that
2:25:18
are hurt and pitchers that aren't
2:25:20
hurt yet. And even players that
2:25:22
you know you could say I'm
2:25:24
going to avoid this player because
2:25:26
he throws too hard or he
2:25:28
threw too many innings last year
2:25:30
or he was injured before or
2:25:33
some other reason and eventually probably
2:25:35
going to be right. but you're
2:25:37
going to leave a lot in
2:25:39
some cases, you're going to leave
2:25:41
a lot of meat on the
2:25:43
bone. If you avoided Garrett Cole
2:25:45
because he threw hard, you missed
2:25:47
about five seasons, the top five
2:25:50
production and a Cy Young award,
2:25:52
and eventually you were right. He
2:25:54
hurt his elbow and he's out
2:25:56
for the year now, but you
2:25:58
would have been avoiding him this
2:26:00
whole time. So I think that
2:26:02
there's a small percentage of players
2:26:04
that are on a very high
2:26:07
level of injury risk that you
2:26:09
want to maybe have more caution
2:26:11
with or players that are coming
2:26:13
into the season. and they already
2:26:15
have a shoulder injury or an
2:26:17
elbow injury or forearm injury that
2:26:19
you know deserve more caution. But
2:26:21
for everybody else, I really try
2:26:24
to encourage people to just embrace
2:26:26
the risk a little bit more,
2:26:28
weighed out a little bit more
2:26:30
into, out of the comfort zone.
2:26:32
And I think that's where you're
2:26:34
going to find some edges because
2:26:36
the market tends to avoid these
2:26:38
players. And if you just get
2:26:41
a little bit more comfortable around
2:26:43
that injury risk, then I think
2:26:45
you can make some big profits.
2:26:47
So I don't know, I came
2:26:49
up with the name of the
2:26:51
fantasy sports stock. when it comes
2:26:53
to these things. I just try
2:26:55
to encourage people to step out
2:26:58
of their comfort zone a little
2:27:00
bit. And you can forgive people
2:27:02
for not lining up to get
2:27:04
Byron Buxton or somebody who's like
2:27:06
Striders, had two elbow procedures now.
2:27:08
That makes sense, but coal was
2:27:10
really just something that came out
2:27:12
of outer space, this injury, because
2:27:15
he was such a horse the
2:27:17
whole time and he never had
2:27:19
any problems at all, and then
2:27:21
bam. UCL CL snaps snaps, there
2:27:23
you go. Yeah, and I think
2:27:25
that's the point. I think all
2:27:27
of these players are at risk
2:27:29
for that. And all we're trying
2:27:32
to do as fantasy players is
2:27:34
we're trying to capture their stats
2:27:36
for just this finite period of
2:27:38
time. So it's more about embracing
2:27:40
the risk of I'm going to
2:27:42
take this player and I'm just
2:27:44
going to hope that it all
2:27:46
works out for this time period
2:27:49
or for at least most of
2:27:51
the season and I can get
2:27:53
that production. Hopefully it doesn't get
2:27:55
hurt on my watch. So it's
2:27:57
almost like hot potato or musical
2:27:59
chairs. You just don't want to
2:28:01
be holding Garrett Cole when the
2:28:04
music stops. And of course, I'm
2:28:06
sure somebody out there is saying,
2:28:08
yeah, but what about Bartolo Cologne?
2:28:10
You know, what about Jesse Chavez?
2:28:12
I mean, these guys are pitching
2:28:14
their 45 years old and they
2:28:16
never get hurt. Is there any
2:28:18
explanation for it? Is it just
2:28:21
one of those things? I think
2:28:23
Bartola Colon is still pitching somewhere.
2:28:25
Mexico, yeah, I think so. Yeah.
2:28:27
So he hasn't he hasn't slowed
2:28:29
down at all. I think that
2:28:31
the answer is and I don't
2:28:33
know how comforting the is going
2:28:35
to be anybody. But I think
2:28:38
it's genetics. I think some people
2:28:40
are just, they have the genetic
2:28:42
makeup to be able to do
2:28:44
this. I don't think it's necessarily
2:28:46
predictable. And I don't think that
2:28:48
there's a whole lot that we
2:28:50
can really look at that is
2:28:52
going to give us anything substantive
2:28:55
or demonstrative. So that's why I
2:28:57
keep coming back to this idea
2:28:59
of, I know people use a
2:29:01
lot of mental energy and part
2:29:03
of the decision making processes is
2:29:05
trying to evaluate all of these,
2:29:07
you know, factors. But I think
2:29:09
when you do that, you're really
2:29:12
just playing on the fringes, you
2:29:14
know, and you're looking for comfort
2:29:16
more than you're actually, you know,
2:29:18
doing anything that's going to help
2:29:20
your fantasy team. I think the
2:29:22
way better thing is to try
2:29:24
to just embrace it a little
2:29:26
bit more. and get more comfortable
2:29:29
around it. And like we talked
2:29:31
about a few times, the way
2:29:33
to get more comfortable about it
2:29:35
is to get a framework for
2:29:37
it, get a better understanding of
2:29:39
it, and through understanding, you can
2:29:41
kind of be able to relax
2:29:43
into these things a little bit
2:29:46
more, take a few more chances,
2:29:48
and you know, who knows? That
2:29:50
might be the thing that, you
2:29:52
know, pushes your team into the
2:29:54
winter circle. That's great advice. Dr.
2:29:56
Jim Ferretti's Boone's Zach Neto of
2:29:58
the Angels, Hasan Kim of Tampa,
2:30:00
Spencer Strider in Atlanta, Felix Bautista
2:30:03
of Baltimore, his Baines, Parker Meadows
2:30:05
of Detroit, and George Kirby of
2:30:07
Seattle. Doc that's been fantastic work.
2:30:09
Where can our listeners keep up
2:30:11
with your work? Well, you can
2:30:13
find me occasionally on Twitter at
2:30:15
TFS doc. I've definitely been trying
2:30:17
to cut back on my social
2:30:20
media diet these days. I like
2:30:22
to think of myself as the
2:30:24
A team. If you can find
2:30:26
me, then I can help. So
2:30:28
you can feel free to email
2:30:30
me. My email address, it's a
2:30:32
mouthful, but here it goes. It's
2:30:34
the doc, T-H-E-D-O-C, at the Fantasy
2:30:37
Sports Doc.com. If you have the
2:30:39
time to email me. I have
2:30:41
the time to send you an
2:30:43
answer, so feel free to do
2:30:45
so. And it's not too much
2:30:47
to ask. Also feel free to
2:30:49
go to Amazon and pick up
2:30:51
a copy of the book. Injuries
2:30:54
suck, but your fantasy team doesn't
2:30:56
have to. I guarantee you it's
2:30:58
gonna change your perspective on the
2:31:00
way you look at injuries, it's
2:31:02
gonna give you valuable information, and
2:31:04
it's really gonna help you out.
2:31:06
I put a lot of effort
2:31:08
into it, and the people that
2:31:11
have read it, have said nothing
2:31:13
but positive things about it, and
2:31:15
I'm confident that you will to.
2:31:17
Well you can add me to
2:31:19
that list I read the whole
2:31:21
thing in one go yesterday after
2:31:23
you sent me a copy of
2:31:26
it and yeah it is really
2:31:28
interesting it's very thorough and it's
2:31:30
really informative and that's all you
2:31:32
can ask for for a book
2:31:34
like this and if you happen
2:31:36
to play fantasy football there's a
2:31:38
few chapters towards the end there
2:31:40
where it gets more specifically into
2:31:43
football related injuries as well as
2:31:45
the baseball that the other parts
2:31:47
of the book cover. It's really
2:31:49
like I said, it's really thorough
2:31:51
and well worth, what is it,
2:31:53
$10 or $12 something like that?
2:31:55
I don't even know if it's
2:31:57
that much. I think you can
2:32:00
get the version for five or
2:32:02
six bucks. So hopefully you can
2:32:04
scratch that together and you know,
2:32:06
in some cases, you know, people
2:32:08
are playing in these leagues that,
2:32:10
you know, if you win, you
2:32:12
win. 40, 50, $100, $250,000. So,
2:32:14
you know, if that's going to,
2:32:17
if that five or six dollars
2:32:19
is going to be the thing
2:32:21
that pushes you into that winter
2:32:23
circle, I think it's probably worth
2:32:25
the investment, don't you? Yeah, good
2:32:27
ROI on that. Absolutely. Dr. Jim,
2:32:29
thanks very much for doing this,
2:32:31
taking the time out. It was
2:32:34
really fascinating for me and I
2:32:36
imagine it was also fascinating for
2:32:38
our listeners. I hope you can
2:32:40
come back. I sure hope so.
2:32:42
Patrick, this was so much fun.
2:32:44
Thanks for giving me the opportunity
2:32:46
to come and talk with you.
2:32:48
And I wish you and the
2:32:51
audience good luck with your teams
2:32:53
and good injury luck too. Let's
2:32:55
keep our fingers crossed and keep
2:32:57
those players healthy. Dr. Jim Ferretti
2:32:59
is the fantasy sports doctor, an
2:33:01
injury analyst at baseball league. and
2:33:03
the author of Injuries Suck, but
2:33:05
your fantasy team doesn't have to.
2:33:08
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Davitt here. Time now for our...
2:34:48
baseball HQ commentaries. Coming up we
2:34:50
have my extra innings comment and
2:34:52
leading off it's the frequent flyer
2:34:54
where we look at a player
2:34:56
who might be available in your
2:34:58
league and who has the skills
2:35:00
to contribute to the success of
2:35:02
your teams. Here with a look
2:35:05
at Toronto left-handed starting pitcher Easton
2:35:07
Lucas is baseball HQ analyst Alex
2:35:09
Becky. Flamethrower Nolan Ryan was once
2:35:11
quoted as saying, one of the
2:35:13
beautiful things about baseball is that
2:35:15
every once in a while you
2:35:17
come into a situation where you
2:35:19
want to and where you have
2:35:22
to reach down and prove something.
2:35:24
Perhaps no description better fits 28-year-old
2:35:26
Toronto Blue Jay's journeyman pitcher, Easton
2:35:28
Lucas, whose journey began with throwing
2:35:30
three no-hitters at Brethren High School
2:35:32
in Simi Valley, California. Drafted by
2:35:34
the Marlins in the 14th round
2:35:36
in 2019 out of Peppernine, then
2:35:39
missing 2020 due to the pandemic
2:35:41
to recap, in addition to being
2:35:43
traded twice by Miami Baltimore and
2:35:45
waived twice by Oakland and Detroit
2:35:47
respectively, before ultimately being claimed off
2:35:49
waivers by Toronto in August 2024,
2:35:51
Finishing last season, 2024 with an
2:35:53
unsightly 1080 ERA in eight forgettable
2:35:56
major league games. Yikes. Perhaps it's
2:35:58
easy to see why Lucas may
2:36:00
have been overlooked so far in
2:36:02
2025. That's why 28-year-old Toronto Blue
2:36:04
Jays journeyman Southpott East and Lucas,
2:36:06
like all of our frequent flyers,
2:36:08
should be concerned to be a
2:36:10
long shot, who may be worth
2:36:13
a flyer if he is still
2:36:15
available in your league. But maybe
2:36:17
this is a moment Nolan Ryan
2:36:19
described the potential turning point where
2:36:21
Lucas wants to and needs to
2:36:23
reach down and prove something. He
2:36:25
pitched with no fear, said Bo
2:36:27
Bichette after Lucas shut out Boston
2:36:30
at Fenway on April 8th for
2:36:32
his second consecutive scoreless start to
2:36:34
begin 2025. No fear? The confidence
2:36:36
came, maybe that's the difference in
2:36:38
2025 for Lucas. I have a
2:36:40
lot of confidence in where I'm
2:36:42
throwing my pitches. That clicked at
2:36:44
the end of spring trading. Lucas
2:36:47
told MLB.com's Kiegan Mathisen on April
2:36:49
8th. You hope it's one of
2:36:51
those feel-good stories, right? Toronto manager
2:36:53
and John Schneider wishfully articulated a
2:36:55
sports net on April 9th, after
2:36:57
Lucas's stellar performance in Boston. Well
2:36:59
perhaps it already is a feel-good
2:37:01
story. The score.com's Jonah Beer Bob,
2:37:04
posted on X on April 9th,
2:37:06
that Lucas is the first major
2:37:08
major major pitch pitcherr. ever to
2:37:10
record consecutive starts with five or
2:37:12
more innings pitched, zero runs, zero
2:37:14
extra base hits, and four or
2:37:16
fewer base runners allowed in his
2:37:18
first two major league starts. Wow!
2:37:21
Something appears to have really clicked
2:37:23
big time for Lucas in 2025.
2:37:25
This is where the magic happens
2:37:27
in baseball. PostulateMLB.com's Keegan Baths and
2:37:29
again on April 8th discussing Lucas.
2:37:31
Frontoff says dream of finding another
2:37:33
Jose Battista, Matheson continued, the role
2:37:35
player they pluck off the waiver
2:37:38
wire or land in a minor
2:37:40
trade who suddenly clicks. In other
2:37:42
words, maybe 28-year-old Toronto Blue Jays
2:37:44
Lefty Confidence Builder, East and Lucas
2:37:46
is exactly the dream role player
2:37:48
you should pluck off the waiver
2:37:50
wire right now as our frequent
2:37:52
flyer for this week. For Baseball
2:37:55
HQ radio, I'm Alex Becky and
2:37:57
Baseball HQ.com. Alex Becky has his
2:37:59
frequent flyer comment here on baseball
2:38:01
HQ radio every week. Now it's
2:38:03
time for extra innings. My weekly
2:38:05
comment on baseball and fantasy baseball,
2:38:07
and this week I want to
2:38:10
talk about a prospect who just
2:38:12
had the 12 fastest hit in
2:38:14
Statcast History. On Thursday of this
2:38:16
week in his first at bat
2:38:18
for the Double A Northwest Arkansas
2:38:20
Naturals against the Frisco Rough Riders,
2:38:22
Kansas City prospect Jack Caliononi lined
2:38:24
a single the other way. Okay,
2:38:27
you're thinking, taking it the other
2:38:29
way, going up, oh, it's a
2:38:31
nice piece of hitting. But that's
2:38:33
only the half of it. You
2:38:35
see... the trackman's system at Arvest
2:38:37
Ball Park in Springdale, Arkansas, measured
2:38:39
the speed of that batted ball
2:38:41
at 120.9 miles an hour. To
2:38:44
put that speed into context, the
2:38:46
hardest hit ever recorded in a
2:38:48
Major League game was by Pirates
2:38:50
Outfielder O'Neill Cruise. That one was
2:38:52
122.4 miles an hour, also interestingly
2:38:54
on a single, in August of
2:38:56
2022. In May of that same
2:38:58
year, Cruz also logged a hit
2:39:01
at 121.7, the hardest hit ball
2:39:03
ever between AAA and the Florida
2:39:05
State League. According to MLB.com, Caliononi's
2:39:07
120.9 mile an hour knock was
2:39:09
the 12th hardest hit ball at
2:39:11
all levels in the statcast era.
2:39:13
And it doesn't look like this
2:39:15
is any kind of fluke. Through
2:39:18
his first six games for the
2:39:20
Nationals, Caliononi has a 336 batting
2:39:22
average, a 406 on base percentage,
2:39:24
and a 615 slugging percentage. That's
2:39:26
a 1021 OPS if you're scoring
2:39:28
at home. He also has seven
2:39:30
runs scored and 11 RBI, and
2:39:32
two home runs so far. The
2:39:35
first one, 464 feet. And the
2:39:37
second one was 468 foot, a
2:39:39
moons. Caliononi pitched as well as
2:39:41
batting for the Gators at the
2:39:43
University of Florida and was imaginatively
2:39:45
dubbed the College Shohayotani. Except, Caliononi's
2:39:47
ERA was in the mid-to-high fours
2:39:49
and he hasn't been on the
2:39:52
mound in pro baseball. So, probably
2:39:54
not much chance of being the
2:39:56
Major League Shohayotani. Caliononi also played
2:39:58
in the Arizona Fall League in
2:40:00
November. He had five homers and
2:40:02
21 army eyes in a hundred
2:40:04
plate appearances. Just another reason you
2:40:06
should be at first pitch Arizona.
2:40:09
Also, Ray buys me a beer
2:40:11
out there for every person who
2:40:13
tells him they heard about first
2:40:15
pitch on this show. You might
2:40:17
think a 6-foot-5 guy who whacks
2:40:19
baseball's 450 plus feet must have
2:40:21
a ton of K in his
2:40:23
game. Joey Gallo, right? John Carlos
2:40:26
Stanton, right? Well, there's no K
2:40:28
in Jack's name and there's not
2:40:30
much K in his game either.
2:40:32
15% strikeout rate in just over
2:40:34
a thousand plate appearances in the
2:40:36
NCAA and the minors. Oh, and
2:40:38
a 10% walk rate to boot.
2:40:40
Now, I know Kansas City already
2:40:43
has first base and DH pretty
2:40:45
blocked up with catcher and DH
2:40:47
Salvador Perez and first baseman DH
2:40:49
Vinny Pascuentino. But, the Royals are
2:40:51
27th in team slugging in ISO
2:40:53
and Pascuentino is slashing 178-240-333. That's
2:40:55
a 573-OPS. It's so bad, they're
2:40:57
even playing Cavin Bijio at first
2:41:00
base. Now I don't know if
2:41:02
your league rules let you stash
2:41:04
minor leaguers, but if you can
2:41:06
stash Jack Caliononi, you really should
2:41:08
think about it. And then you
2:41:10
can buy me that beer at
2:41:12
First Pitch, Arizona. For BaseballHQ Radio,
2:41:15
I'm Patrick Daven of BaseballHQ.com, and
2:41:17
I have my extra innings comment
2:41:19
here pretty much most weeks. And
2:41:21
that's BaseballHQ Radio for Friday, April
2:41:23
the 11th. Thanks very much for
2:41:25
taking the time to download and
2:41:27
listen to show number 13 of
2:41:29
the 2025 fantasy baseball season. Thanks
2:41:32
also to our guest experts for
2:41:34
this show, Jason Collette from Roadawire
2:41:36
and the Sleeper in the Bust
2:41:38
podcast, and Jim Ferretti, the fantasy
2:41:40
sports doc, an injuries analyst at
2:41:42
BaseballHQ, and the author of Injuries
2:41:44
Suck, but your fantasy team doesn't
2:41:46
have to. Jason's one of the
2:41:49
hardest working most productive guys in
2:41:51
the fantasy baseball content business and
2:41:53
one of the most ingenious. And
2:41:55
Dr. Jim is a first-time guest
2:41:57
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