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Mar today the day I'm recording this

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which is Friday the 28th of March

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it was 7.7 on the rig to

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scale we know of more than 100

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deaths but it's likely the death toll

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is much much much higher. Lots of

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the telegraph and internet infrastructure has been

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taken out by the earthquake and the

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hunter restricts internet and social media access

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so we don't really know the full

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extent of the death but we can

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imagine it will be very high as

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one of the areas most effective was

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Mandalay which is the second largest city

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in Myanmar. I've spoken to half a

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dozen sources in Myanmar today, people who

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Robert and I have interviewed before. They're

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all okay, but they all shared how

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terrible things were. They said things were

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your podcasts. The

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Autism Research Institute and our buddy

8:18

Dr. Rimland rode in to defend

8:20

Doctors Usman and Kerry after Turek's

8:22

death, writing in a post on

8:24

the Institute's website that Tureka died

8:27

not because of chelation therapy, but

8:29

because of an error that had

8:31

seen him dosed with a look-alike

8:33

drug, disodium EDTA, instead of calcium

8:36

disodium EDTA. Now first off... I

8:38

don't think the argument, we didn't

8:40

kill him with bad medicine, we

8:42

killed him because we cruelly administered

8:45

a deadly dose of the wrong

8:47

drug, makes things better. That's like,

8:49

no, no, no, I didn't give

8:51

him fentanyl, I just shot him

8:54

up with way too much heroin.

8:56

Like, yeah! I don't really see

8:58

how that helps. This is also

9:00

untrue. Tarique was administered with the

9:03

normal kind of EDTA used in

9:05

cellation therapy, which is the only

9:07

kind the clinic had stocked. And

9:09

subsequent publications, Dr. Rimmland bragged that

9:12

chelation therapy had consistently good results

9:14

as rated by paraments who were

9:16

surveyed by ARI. In fact, it

9:18

was the number one pick out

9:20

of 88 approved interventions. A subsequent

9:23

trace, yes. They love this because

9:25

it's clearly is serious medicine, right?

9:27

It doesn't help, it makes things

9:29

worse generally, but it has a

9:32

massive visible effect. I think that's

9:34

honestly the whole reason why. Right?

9:36

A subsequent statement put out by

9:38

Dan claimed that chelation was one

9:41

of the most beneficial treatments for

9:43

autism and related disorders. Now, aluminum

9:45

lead and mercury aren't the only

9:47

metals that got blamed. I found

9:50

a Chicago Tribune piece that gives

9:52

the story of a boy named

9:54

Jordan King who was chelated for

9:56

high levels of mercury and tin.

9:59

This is where there's a quote

10:01

in there from like an expert

10:03

on tin poisoning who's like, yeah.

10:05

Is tin poisoning really a thing?

10:08

It is for like industrial workers

10:10

who are like welding tin for

10:12

a living, you know? Like, yeah,

10:14

but not little kids. There's no

10:17

way to get enough exposure to

10:19

tin, really. Is your kid welding

10:21

a shit load of tin? Then

10:23

we have other issues. This is

10:25

not the problem. You're letting your

10:28

five-year-old world. What are you doing?

10:30

Take that torch away from them.

10:32

Now the actual explanation for why

10:34

this kid... Although if they're productive,

10:37

like, you know... Sure, why not?

10:39

Why not? It's good for kids

10:41

to have a hobby. At least

10:43

they're touching... If they can't touch

10:46

grass, they might as well touch

10:48

heated tin. Now again, they do

10:50

a test which shows high levels

10:52

of mercury and tin in this

10:55

kid's blood, but that's not the

10:57

whole story. You brought that and

10:59

you're like, well, maybe there was

11:01

something going on. Why would they

11:04

have elevated levels? The explanation for

11:06

why, and for why all of

11:08

the kids that get tested in

11:10

order to justify this therapy have

11:13

elevated levels of different heavy metals,

11:15

is because of the very, the

11:17

distinctly a scientific kind of lab

11:19

test that they give these kids,

11:21

right? You would think, if you're

11:24

like, this kid probably has high

11:26

levels of heavy metals, we might

11:28

want to administer chelation therapy. You're

11:30

not a doctor, Mangash. But what

11:33

would you do first? If you

11:35

thought they might have high levels

11:37

of heavy metals of heavy metals.

11:39

Get a blood test? Right. Very

11:42

basic science. Right? Okay, you think

11:44

this is true? Let's test their

11:46

blood. No, no, no, no. The

11:48

way you give these blood tests

11:51

is first you chelate the child.

11:53

You shoot them up with this

11:55

thing that's strips heavy metals out

11:57

of their blood and makes them

12:00

pee it out, right? And then

12:02

you test them, right? So you

12:04

give them a drug that provokes

12:06

them to excrete heavy metals and

12:09

then test them and then you

12:11

know what? You're gonna find some

12:13

heavy metals. Because you gave them

12:15

the drug that makes them excrete

12:17

them. And here's the thing. There's

12:20

no except, because this isn't the

12:22

way science where you don't. do

12:24

this otherwise. There's no accepted understanding

12:26

for what normal results on a

12:29

test given after chelation would be.

12:31

So there's no actual medical case

12:33

for like drugging people and then

12:35

testing them like this. So the

12:38

lab just shows back charged that

12:40

show scary spikes of different metals

12:42

and the clinician says, look, kids

12:44

got it, you know, we need

12:47

to keep doing this. Now, doctor,

12:49

in case you don't believe me

12:51

and you shouldn't, not a doctor,

12:53

Dr. Carl Baum, director of the

12:56

Center for Children's Environmental Toxicology at

12:58

the Yale New Haven Children's Hospital,

13:00

calls this, quote, exactly the wrong

13:02

way to do it. Now, Dr.

13:05

Usman did ultimately face mild consequences.

13:07

In 2009, the Chicago Tribune featured

13:09

her in their dubious medicine investigation,

13:11

which helped push for a probe

13:14

by the Illinois Department of Financial

13:16

and Professional Regulation. They alleged that

13:18

she had provided medically unwarranted treatment

13:20

that may potentially result in permanent

13:22

disabling injuries to two boys. Quote

13:25

from the Tribune. In reaching a

13:27

consent order with Usman, medical regulators

13:29

alleged that Usman failed to disclose

13:31

to her patients her financial interests

13:34

in the company supplying the hyperbaric

13:36

oxygen chambers, and in the compounding

13:38

pharmacy that filled prescriptions for her

13:40

patients. The state said that she

13:43

also failed to obtain informed consent

13:45

for the chelation therapy and did

13:47

not keep adequate medical records for

13:49

her patients. Usman, who practices out

13:52

of the True Health Medical Center

13:54

in Naperville, neither admitted nor denied

13:56

the state's allegations in signing the

13:58

consent order. She agreed to pay

14:01

a $10,000 fine. Great. I love

14:03

that this is the punishment. I

14:05

know, I know, it's crazy. Now, the

14:07

other boy that she is accused of

14:09

harming in this case was a Chicago

14:11

child, the son of James Coleman.

14:13

We don't get this kid's name

14:15

because they're a kid. It was

14:18

engaged in a custody battle with

14:20

his ex-wife over their kid who

14:22

was a child with autism. Now,

14:24

the kid's mom is a

14:26

biomedical interventions for their son's

14:29

autism. James is not. James

14:31

recognizes this is pretty

14:33

dangerous and he gets trapped

14:36

in this nightmare of trying

14:38

to advocate for his son

14:40

against the wishes of the

14:42

boy's mother. Here's how a

14:44

different article by the Tribune

14:47

titled Autism's Risky Experiments describes

14:49

his regimen of treatment. Diagnosed

14:51

with autism as a toddler,

14:53

the Chicago boy had been

14:55

placed on an intense regimen

14:58

of supplements and medications aimed

15:00

at treating the disorder. Besides

15:02

taking many pills, the boy was

15:04

injected with vitamin B12 and received

15:06

an intravenous infusions of a drug

15:08

used to leach mercury and other

15:10

metals from the body. He took

15:12

mega doses of vitamin C, a

15:14

hormone, and a drug that suppresses

15:16

testosterone. They're just doing everything to

15:18

this kid! Again, none of these

15:20

trees! He can, he can swallow

15:22

seven pills! He's able to take

15:25

so many pills! That's not America's

15:27

got talent. Yeah, now the comb

15:29

and boy also suffered extreme negative

15:31

side effects from chalation, although thankfully

15:33

not fatal ones. This provoked his

15:35

father to sue, and his mother

15:37

responded by complaining that any interruption

15:40

of his complex nonsense therapeutic routine

15:42

would have a disastrous impact on

15:44

the boy, setting him back, you

15:46

know? That Tribune article written in

15:48

2009 summed up the scope of

15:50

the biomedical movement at the time. Studies

15:53

have shown that up to three quarters

15:55

of families with children with autism try

15:57

alternative treatments, which insurance does not usually

15:59

cover. many linked to the influential

16:01

group, defeat autism now, promote the

16:03

therapies online in books and at

16:06

conferences. Intensive regiments are so common

16:08

that one doctor recently joked at

16:10

an autism one conference in Chicago,

16:12

you know you have a child

16:14

with autism if your child takes

16:16

more pills than your grandmother. His

16:19

joking about all the drugs you're

16:21

giving kids? I love that, like,

16:23

you know, your redneck if, like,

16:25

his forehead for this. It's awful.

16:27

Sounds like you're a doctor. Great.

16:29

It also made a point of

16:32

discussing how the social media era

16:34

had provided oxygen to the hyperbaric

16:36

chamber fire that is the biomedical

16:38

movement. Quote, parents trade stories and

16:40

advice about chelation on large internet

16:42

groups. One Yahoo group has more

16:45

than 8,000 members. The treatment takes

16:47

many forms including creams for the

16:49

skin, capsules, supposatories, and intravenous infusions

16:51

of powerful medicines usually reserved for

16:53

people with severe metal poisoning. The

16:55

hype was so big around this

16:58

stuff in 2006 that the National

17:00

Institute of Mental Health announced a

17:02

randomized control trial of chelation as

17:04

an autism treatment. So an actual

17:06

legitimate medical body says. Let's do

17:08

a trial. So many people are

17:11

saying this helps their kids, let's

17:13

look into it, right? And ultimately,

17:15

they cancel that trial in 2008,

17:17

because they can't find any evidence

17:19

that there's benefit to it, and

17:21

there's a lot of evidence that

17:24

even trying this will put kids

17:26

at risk, right? Significant risk, because

17:28

chelation is not good for you

17:30

if you don't need it. So

17:32

like, it's actually unethical for us

17:34

to study this, because there's zero

17:37

evidence that's helped anybody, and we

17:39

know it hurts So we just

17:41

can't do this to kids. Now,

17:43

they also, they've done some studies

17:45

on lab rats that have showed

17:47

that drugging lab rats needlessly with

17:50

chelation therapy causes cognitive problems, right?

17:52

So they're like, we just really

17:54

can't justify doing this. And this

17:56

is good logic for ethical scientists.

17:58

But the crazed parents and con

18:00

artists doctors. of the biomedical movement

18:03

take this as evidence that big

18:05

site big pharma has killed another

18:07

attempt to uncover the truth right

18:09

that's why they don't care about

18:11

hurting kids they just want to

18:13

they want to keep selling us

18:16

expensive medicine that actually isn't as

18:18

expensive as the fake medicine Now,

18:20

you see similar stories wherever you

18:22

look at these nonsense treatments for

18:24

autism. In 2007, the Cochran collaboration

18:26

and independent evaluator of medical research

18:29

reviewed the efficacy of casein and

18:31

gluten-free diets as treatments for autism,

18:33

which had become another bug bear

18:35

for biomedicine. The idea that some

18:37

of these biomedical people have is

18:39

that gluten and casein interferes with

18:42

kids brain receptors and advocates would

18:44

cite studies which proved that proper

18:46

diet could eliminate the symptoms of

18:48

autism. But for scientific American... Cochran

18:50

identified two very small clinical trials,

18:52

one with 20 participants and one

18:55

with 15. The first study found

18:57

some reduction in autism symptoms. The

18:59

second found none. A new randomized

19:01

control trial of 14 children reported

19:03

this past May by Susan Hymen,

19:05

an associate professor of pediatrics at

19:08

the University of Rochester School of

19:10

Medicine and Dentistry, found no changes

19:12

in attention, sleep, stool patterns, or

19:14

characteristic, autistic. at the Children's Hospital

19:16

of Philadelphia who has evaluated the

19:18

evidence with Hyman. And of course,

19:21

logic and evidence never drives the

19:23

reactions you want to see in

19:25

cases like this, right? Fitzpatrick's book

19:27

includes a quote from an anti-mercury

19:29

campaign in the US, Generation Rescue,

19:31

this is a. what's her name,

19:34

the Oprah ladies, Ginny McCarthy's organization.

19:36

This statement was made initially in

19:38

response to Tarik Nidama's death. You

19:40

might want to recall here that

19:42

Tarik was diagnosed with like high

19:44

aluminum levels, not mercury, but whatever.

19:47

Quote, we are not desperate parents

19:49

willing to try anything. We are

19:51

educated, caring parents who have done

19:53

thousands of hours of research and

19:55

administered dozens of medical. tests on

19:57

our own children under the care

20:00

of knowledgeable physicians. Wow. Great. Wasn't

20:02

it wasn't genuine these kids also

20:04

like like she said he was

20:06

office autistic and then she said

20:08

she cared him. Yeah. Oh my

20:10

god. I hope that kid is

20:13

okay, I don't know. Now, this

20:15

kind of talk, it's like, well,

20:17

we've actually, we're the experts, we've

20:19

done so much, you know, to

20:21

understand this, it's very common among

20:23

the loudest mouthpieces of the movement,

20:26

which includes Ginny McCarthy. We've discussed

20:28

before her appearances on the Oprah

20:30

Winfrey show, which played a massive

20:32

role in igniting the anti-vax movement

20:34

in the US. McCarthy, whose son

20:36

Evan was diagnosed with autism was

20:39

diagnosed with autism, describes her. But

20:41

she did have a role to

20:43

play in the death of that

20:45

five-year-old who burnt alive in a

20:47

hyperbaric chamber. In 2016, Jenny pivoted

20:49

from her successful anti-vax campaign and

20:52

started advocating hyperbaric oxygen therapy as

20:54

a treatment for ASD. The scientific

20:56

argument she used was that people

20:58

with ASD have, and this is

21:00

autism spectrum disorder, right? The scientific

21:02

argument she used was that people

21:05

with ASD have inflammation in their

21:07

brains, which is true. brains of

21:09

people with autism, inflammation, and the

21:11

brains of people with autism. We

21:13

don't know why. We don't know

21:15

like how this relates to the,

21:18

like we just know it's there,

21:20

right? So there's a lot of

21:22

debate about this, but it is

21:24

something you see. And it is

21:26

true that hyperbaric therapy has decreased

21:28

other kinds of inflammation, but not

21:31

in the brain. Yeah, different, like

21:33

stuff doesn't always, it's not all

21:35

the same, right? right the microbiome

21:37

being different of autistic kids and

21:39

and and diet not being able

21:41

to affect it right yeah yeah

21:44

and so it's it's this thing

21:46

where like you are taking two

21:48

unrelated facts and and using them

21:50

to put kids in these death

21:52

tubes now actual an of the

21:54

evidence because there have been studies

21:57

on this, shows that the only

21:59

basis for hyperbaric therapy as a

22:01

treatment for autism was one flawed

22:03

study that showed a benefit. Pubmed

22:05

quote, HBO too, that's the name

22:07

for hyperbaric therapy, should not be

22:10

recommended for ASD treatment until more

22:12

conclusive favorable results and long-term outcomes

22:14

are demonstrated from well-designed controlled trials.

22:16

A write-up from this time by

22:18

the American Council on Science and

22:20

Health states, despite all of this

22:23

caution and doubt, McCarthy believes that

22:25

she knows better. Her organization, Generation

22:27

Rescue, is holding the third annual

22:29

Autism Education Summit, this weekend in

22:31

Addison, Texas, just north of Dallas,

22:33

to promote HBO2 therapy for ASD.

22:36

This conference included an expert panel

22:38

of chiropractors and osteopats, as well

22:40

as, along with those a gust

22:42

medical experts, a YouTubeer named Lily,

22:44

who made a video about hyperbaric

22:46

treatment helped her little sister. McCarthy

22:49

was joined on the panel by

22:51

Del Big Tree, producer of the

22:53

movie Vaxed, and one of the

22:55

ladies from the Real Housewives of

22:57

New Jersey. Truly! A symposium of

22:59

the greatest minds and medicine! Awesome!

23:02

Another conference expert was Dr. Anju

23:04

Usman, whose husband sells hyperbaric chambers.

23:06

Oh my God! I was not

23:08

expecting that to end. Oh yeah,

23:10

baby. Now this is all made

23:12

especially infuriating because four years before

23:15

this conference, in 2012, a four-year-old

23:17

boy and his 62-year-old grandmother died

23:19

after the hyperbaric chamber the boy

23:21

was in caught fire at the

23:23

Ocean Hyperbaric Center in Florida. Francesco

23:25

had cerebral palsy, which hyperbaric therapy...

23:28

does not treat. And he had

23:30

traveled to South Florida from Italy,

23:32

where the treatment is illegal with

23:34

his grandmother. And he caught on

23:36

fire as he tried to save

23:38

them. They both die. Nightmarish deaths.

23:41

Four years before this conference, Virginia

23:43

McCarthy saying everybody should do this

23:45

for their kids. None of these

23:47

deaths, none of these injuries, none

23:49

of the illnesses caused by all

23:51

this bullshit treatment, means anything to

23:54

most of these people. Their only

23:56

interest is their children. And one

23:58

of the issues here is that

24:00

because of the way autism works

24:02

for most people who have autism,

24:04

you see around the time the

24:07

symptoms become evident, it seems like

24:09

they're regressing, right? They stop making

24:11

eye contact, they stop engaging as

24:13

much, and this can be very

24:15

dramatic and very shocking to parents,

24:17

right? because they grow up and

24:20

they get used to dealing with

24:22

and engaging in the world right

24:24

right right they just that's just

24:26

life you know yeah this is

24:28

going to be the case with

24:30

a majority of people who get

24:33

diagnosed with autism you will see

24:35

the symptoms get alleviated so even

24:37

if you're just dosing them with

24:39

every random drug you can get

24:41

your hands on they will likely

24:43

show improvement in some ways just

24:46

as they grow up and people

24:48

convince themselves I saved my kid

24:50

you know At least they're better

24:52

because of all of this shit

24:54

I did. When like, you could

24:56

have just loved them. You know,

24:59

maybe gotten some treatment of the

25:01

GI issues or whatever, but like

25:03

you could have just loved them.

25:05

You didn't have to do all

25:07

this other shit. But it's just

25:09

like, you know, life. People find

25:12

ways to interact and deal with

25:14

the world like David Lynch, you

25:16

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25:18

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25:20

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25:22

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25:25

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25:27

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25:29

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25:31

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25:33

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Good stuff. Good stuff. So every

28:49

now and then, when you read

28:51

about the biomedical community, you do

28:53

hear about the rare winds, right?

28:55

These cases where a parent gets

28:57

pulled into this. They treat their

28:59

kid with nonsense for a while,

29:01

and they realize I fucked up,

29:03

and they pull back. and they

29:05

take accountability and those are good

29:08

stories. There's a great article in

29:10

the Atlantic about autism's fringe therapies

29:12

and it gives a story of

29:14

Emma Zircher and her family. Emma

29:16

was born in 2002 when she

29:18

started to show signs of autism

29:20

at like age two and a

29:22

half right around the time to

29:24

reek would have died, right? Her

29:27

mother Arianne later described the realization

29:29

of her daughter's diagnosis as being

29:31

like quote descending into hell. I

29:33

was desperate to save my daughter.

29:35

We went to everybody. We tried

29:37

everything. We tried everything. For the

29:39

Atlantic, quote, she and her husband

29:41

took image neurologists, gastrominerologists, behavioral, speech,

29:43

and occupational therapists, nutritionists, natropaths, a

29:45

shaman, and a... a homeopath, a

29:48

cranial sacral therapist, and a quigong

29:50

master. A developmental pediatrician who didn't

29:52

take insurance charged at least $200

29:54

per visit and had a months-long

29:56

waiting list. Recommended they call a

29:58

psychic in Europe. The psychic ironically

30:00

refused payment because she didn't pick

30:02

up a signal from them when

30:04

the psychics are more honest than

30:07

the doctors? Holy fuck! Like, oh,

30:09

wow! The psychics, like, no, I

30:11

don't want to, I don't want

30:13

to rob you, you know, like,

30:15

holy fuck. They tried dozens of

30:17

treatments that claimed to have recovered

30:19

children with autism, including numerous vitamin

30:21

supplements, topical ointments, restrictive diets, chelation,

30:23

hyperbaric oxygen therapy, brain scans, a

30:25

so-called detoxification system and stem cell

30:28

therapy. In other words. She went

30:30

through all the con therapies we've

30:32

covered in these episodes and a

30:34

bunch more. She describes her mind

30:36

state after each failure ass, I

30:38

thought I didn't do it right.

30:40

Let me do it again. And

30:42

this is the consequence of this.

30:44

It's not unreasonable to say like,

30:46

well, if your kid has a

30:49

condition or an illness, part of

30:51

treating it properly is the parent

30:53

needs to be an advocate for

30:55

their kid and involved in the

30:57

treatment care, not an unreasonable statement.

30:59

But there's this. Attitude that that

31:01

means that like the it's the

31:03

parent is responsible for figuring it

31:05

out and like well, but you're

31:08

like You're like a fucking accountant

31:10

or something like you don't know

31:12

how you don't you're not a

31:14

medical expert. You don't know what

31:16

you're doing like you should know

31:18

you shouldn't be diagnosing your kid

31:20

here Also, you can see how

31:22

like you you like slip from

31:24

one to the next to the

31:26

next because you're increasingly desperate, but

31:29

like yeah, once you're dealing with

31:31

like a shaman and and like

31:33

it feels like someone in your

31:35

life would tell you a psychic.

31:37

I don't know if the shaman

31:39

knows how to cure autism. The

31:41

ultimate result of all these specialty

31:43

diets was that Emma shed body

31:45

weight at a dangerous pace losing

31:48

15% of her weight and six

31:50

weeks. Now, Emma's mom had by

31:52

this point come to believe that

31:54

her daughter had something that is

31:56

another common line in biomedical hooey,

31:58

that GI problems like leaky gut

32:00

might help cause symptoms of autism.

32:02

It doesn't. None of her attempts

32:04

to fix Emma's microbiome worked. Aryan

32:06

kept going, quote, I thought any

32:09

treatment was better than doing nothing

32:11

at all. It's this, I can't

32:13

think of anything else to do,

32:15

better press the gas, you know?

32:17

Yeah, yeah. That's just not... It's

32:19

not smart. Sometimes I have a

32:21

friend who's an ER News, who

32:23

says sometimes the best thing to

32:25

do at the site of a

32:27

disaster is like smoke a cigarette

32:30

and just kind of think things

32:32

out for a second before you

32:34

get in there, right? And that

32:36

sounds horrifying to a lot of

32:38

people, but this is a person

32:40

who deals with emergencies every day.

32:42

Sometimes your best bet is like,

32:44

give it a sec. And this

32:46

is also, it's another thing, it's

32:49

a thing that gets people killed

32:51

in war zones. You know, I've

32:53

seen it, like this desire, this

32:55

feeling a need to do something

32:57

when again, the people who are

32:59

the real veterans, the people, number

33:01

one, they also do react when

33:03

they need to, but they also

33:05

don't react all the time when

33:07

they don't need to. They tend

33:10

to keep to watch it to

33:12

think, you know, because otherwise you

33:14

die horribly. Her kid loses a

33:16

disastrous amount of weight and none

33:18

of these attempts to fix Emma

33:20

work at all This is the

33:22

state of mind this idea I've

33:24

got to do something That's most

33:26

of what these parents find themselves

33:28

in and the market for quack

33:31

cures has only grown I stated

33:33

in 2009 about 75% of parents

33:35

of children with autism reported using

33:37

alternate medicine today. It's about 88%

33:39

nearly all of them If you

33:41

have the money there are a

33:43

truly dizzying number of options available

33:45

like spect a $3,500 treatment that

33:47

scans a child's brain to diagnose

33:50

them and derive targeted treatments for

33:52

their individual autism. This is in

33:54

spite of the fact that brain

33:56

scans, like, expect can't reveal autism.

33:58

They don't. You don't see it

34:00

that way. And of course, they

34:02

can't, like, figure out this specific

34:04

treatment is how to help your

34:06

kid, right? But parents love that

34:08

shit. Like, oh, I'm gonna get

34:11

the exact kind of therapy for

34:13

my individual kid. No, that's just...

34:15

You're not doing it this way.

34:17

Sorry. Maybe the therapy your kid

34:19

needs is for you to just

34:21

like them. Also once your kid

34:23

has autism and and then you

34:25

get a scan you can point

34:27

to anything and say like sure

34:30

look at this thing I don't

34:32

know what it is but it

34:34

says autism you know 100% probably

34:36

the most costly of these new

34:38

interventions is stem cell therapy and

34:40

this might actually There might be

34:42

treatment derived from this in the

34:44

future. It's very far from clear

34:46

at this point, right? At the

34:48

moment, it is not approved as

34:51

a treatment in the US. There

34:53

are several trials gathering data on

34:55

whether it's safer effective, but again,

34:57

the parents who think their kids

34:59

have this ticking clock before their

35:01

life is ruined don't want to

35:03

wait. And as the Atlantic reports,

35:05

quote, several foreign clinics offer it

35:07

for around $10,000. Sarah Collins credits

35:09

the adult stem cell injections her

35:12

two children received in Panama City

35:14

Panama with the recovery of her

35:16

older son, both in improvement in

35:18

her younger son, both of whom

35:20

were diagnosed with autism. Her experience

35:22

led her to co-found the stem

35:24

cell therapy for autism Facebook group.

35:26

She says one reason parents might

35:28

not want to take part in

35:31

clinical trials in the US is

35:33

that their child might wind up

35:35

in the placebo arm of the

35:37

trial. They won't mess with that.

35:39

They'll go right to Panama instead.

35:41

And again, you get both the

35:43

psychology of like, well, I don't

35:45

want my kid to be, I

35:47

want them to get the medicine

35:49

now, but it's like, ultimately, your

35:52

desire to do something now is

35:54

making your kid and everyone else

35:56

you love, everywhere in the world,

35:58

less safe, because good medicine relies

36:00

on good, double blind studies with

36:02

placebo. That's how you do medical

36:04

studies. And by delaying this. Number

36:06

one, you are slowing down the

36:08

process by which science will get

36:11

done, but also by going to

36:13

Panama to get whatever the fuck

36:15

shot into your kid, well say

36:17

that clinic doesn't have good standards.

36:19

Say your kid gets hurt, and

36:21

maybe it's not even because of

36:23

actual stem cell therapy. It's because

36:25

something else fucked up happened. But

36:27

there's this horrible public death or

36:29

illness associated with it, and that

36:32

shuts down research into a thing

36:34

that may one day lead to

36:36

treatments that help. people, right, that

36:38

alleviate some symptom or something. You

36:40

are doing nothing but harm by

36:42

doing this out of this desire

36:44

that like, well, but I got

36:46

to focus on my kid. And

36:48

it's like, no, it's this fucking,

36:50

no, no, no. Emma's mom eventually

36:53

made the right decision after about

36:55

seven years of trying this carousel

36:57

of treatments to reach out to

36:59

an adult with autism and talk

37:01

to them about her kid. This

37:03

adult was Julia Bascom, who has

37:05

a blog called Just Stimming. This

37:07

talking to Julia, keyed her in

37:09

on the fact that, well, maybe

37:12

autism, is it like, doesn't mean

37:14

my kid has no life. Maybe

37:16

they could be happy as a

37:18

person with autism, and I should

37:20

focus on that, because it's just

37:22

the way they are. Emma's mom

37:24

wrote, quote, quote, my entire focus

37:26

changed. instead of fighting against Emma's

37:28

neurology and trying to cure this

37:30

heinous disorder, I started finding ways

37:33

to help her flourish. And that's

37:35

it, really, right? Like, that's the

37:37

ball game. I mean, just robbing

37:39

yourself of, like, the joy of

37:41

being able to enjoy your kid

37:43

and see them, you know, is

37:45

stunning because you're so worried. Yep.

37:47

Yeah. I mean, and it's, it

37:49

is tragic, like the amount of

37:51

the wasted years. You're so obsessed

37:54

doing this that you're not actually

37:56

having a relationship with your kid

37:58

as your kid. You're having a

38:00

relationship with your kid as a

38:02

sick thing you need to fix.

38:04

Yeah, as a guinea pig is

38:06

sad. Yeah. Now in this case,

38:08

so one of the first things

38:10

she does when she has this

38:13

shift in mindset, she realizes like

38:15

Emma's not great. talking. This is

38:17

a big problem for her that

38:19

like your kid can't really talk

38:21

and like communicate verbally. And so

38:23

instead of trying, shooting her up

38:25

with more drugs and shit, she

38:27

tries a different kind of intervention.

38:29

She gives your kid a keyboard

38:31

setup. So Emma can type out

38:34

her thoughts and suddenly Emma starts

38:36

communicating very clearly with people and

38:38

the rest of the world. She

38:40

gets on track to get her

38:42

high school diploma. The fact that

38:44

she now they figured out how

38:46

she individually needs to communicate, gives

38:48

her a chance to advocate for

38:50

herself and to live a life.

38:53

While Zertcher told the Atlantic that

38:55

she now views the money she

38:57

wasted on quack treatments as insane,

38:59

and Emma herself insists that only

39:01

occupational therapy provided her with any

39:03

benefit, and occupational therapy is a

39:05

real thing that can help. She

39:07

also insists she's not angry at

39:09

her mom. Quote, you thought my

39:11

autism was hurting me and that

39:14

you needed to remove it, but

39:16

you did not understand that it

39:18

is a neurological difference. Fear caused

39:20

you to behave with desperation. What

39:22

an incredibly mature way to respond,

39:24

Jesus, yeah. And that would be

39:26

a beautiful note to end on,

39:28

Mangash, if this is behind the

39:30

bastards. So we're not going to

39:32

end on that uplifting note. Instead,

39:35

I'm going to tell you a

39:37

whole other story about one of

39:39

these quack bastards, one of the

39:41

worst of these sons of bitches,

39:43

an asshole named James Jeffrey Bradstreet.

39:45

Three names, real serial killer shit

39:47

for James Jeffrey Bradstreet. Yeah, this

39:49

episode, and part one, just the

39:51

names, just the names, always the

39:54

worst. Born in July, 19-54, in

39:56

Florida. Bradstreet was at one point

39:58

a Christian preacher who got a

40:00

medical degree from the University of

40:02

Florida. We're doing great. Knocking it

40:04

out of the park so far.

40:06

His postgraduate research was in aerospace

40:08

medicine and his actual career was

40:10

as a family doctor. But in

40:12

1997, after he'd been practicing for

40:15

a little over a decade, his

40:17

son was diagnosed with autism. As

40:19

Fitzpatrick writes, Jeff Bradstreet abandoned his

40:21

career as a family doctor to

40:23

become a radio talk show host.

40:25

Great, great, great start! He immediately

40:27

met up with the biomedical activists

40:29

and founded the International Child Development

40:31

Resource Center in Florida or the

40:34

ICDRC. In 2001, he appointed Andrew

40:36

Wakefield to be head of research

40:38

there. Bradstreet was a big believer

40:40

in merging his evangelical Christian faith

40:42

with his treatments for autism, and

40:44

so he created the Good News

40:46

Doctor Foundation. Now again. Bradstreet's training

40:48

was two years of residency in

40:50

obstetrics and some added training in

40:52

aerospace medicine. He was not board

40:55

certified in any specialty, yet he

40:57

advertised himself as a biomedical expert

40:59

in autism treatment who specialized in

41:01

correcting biochemical imbalances as well as

41:03

detoxification. Again, this is a guy

41:05

who's like... qualified to help your

41:07

kid with the flu, you know,

41:09

right? Not to like downplay family

41:11

medicine, but this is not a

41:13

guy who's qualified to cure. But

41:16

among other things, nobody is. It's

41:18

not a thing. That's not a

41:20

thing that happens. In the book

41:22

Deadly Choices, Paul Offett describes Bradstreet's

41:24

clinical approach this way. Bradstreet had

41:26

promoted several cures for autism, including

41:28

secretent, cholation, immunoglobulin, administered by mouth

41:30

and by vein, and prednisone, a

41:32

potent steroid that suppresses the immune

41:35

system. He also prescribed dietary supplements

41:37

he sold in his office. As

41:39

one expert put it, the nutritional

41:41

supplements prescribed by Dr. Bradstreet were

41:43

also sold by Dr. Bradstreet. This

41:45

is like the net late 90s,

41:47

right? Yeah, yeah, this is like

41:49

the net late 90s. This guy

41:51

would be on TikTok. Oh my

41:53

God. He might have been actually,

41:56

you know what? Sophie, good news.

41:58

We're going to talk about what

42:00

this guy winds up doing in

42:02

the present era. It's actually the

42:04

best part of the story. So,

42:06

in 1999, Bradstreet began treating Colton

42:08

Snyder, ultimately examining him more than

42:10

160 times and ordering a number

42:12

of invasive lab tests that were

42:15

not approved by the FDA. Among

42:17

these were multiple spinal taps. That's

42:19

not a thing you fuck around

42:21

with. They're just stabbing this kid

42:23

in the spine with needles. See?

42:25

And that makes it better. 160

42:27

times feels very, very thorough. It

42:29

feels like a lot of visits.

42:31

It feels like a lot of

42:33

visits. They also insert a fiber

42:36

optic scope into Colton's stomach and

42:38

colon. As off it writes, all

42:40

these tests and procedures were expensive,

42:42

potentially dangerous, and according to the

42:44

opinions of expert witnesses, of no

42:46

value to the child. Wow. Now

42:48

Bradstreet's, this is not said directly,

42:50

but his parents have money. This

42:52

is not cheap. That's why Bradstreet's

42:54

doing this. His medical documentation of

42:57

Snyder ultimately runs to some 650

42:59

pages. He diagnoses the boy over

43:01

the years with autism, yeast overgrowth,

43:03

a fungal infection, unspecified encephalopathy, unspecified

43:05

eudicaria, and a shit load of

43:07

other things. And it's so many

43:09

different things that it is clear

43:11

that what's going on here. is

43:13

Bradstreet has, this is like a

43:16

Munchausens by doctor syndrome, right? And

43:18

it's, he's not doing it because

43:20

he's diluted, he's doing it because

43:22

he is a mercenary with the

43:24

goal of keeping Colton's parents paying

43:26

for very expensive tests and treatments

43:28

for forever, right? None of Colton's

43:30

mercury tests were ever high, but

43:32

still Bradstreet who believed mercury contributed

43:34

to autism prescribed numerous rounds of

43:37

cholation therapy. A write up in

43:39

Quackwatch summarizes summarizes. Broad Street conceded

43:41

that Colton did not respond well

43:43

to chelation. The medical records, including

43:45

reports from Mrs. Snyder, reflected that

43:47

Colton did poorly after every round

43:49

of chelation therapy. The more disturbing

43:51

question is why chelation was performed

43:53

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43:55

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43:58

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44:12

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We're back. So in one conference in

48:04

the early aunts after Bradstreet had become

48:06

a Dan affiliated doctor, you referred to

48:09

parents who didn't blame their kid's condition

48:11

on vaccines or subject them to dangerous

48:13

biomedical experimentations as aepids or autism parents

48:16

in denial, right? If you just accept

48:18

your kid and try to help them

48:20

live their best life, you're in denial.

48:22

You should be poisoning them. Fitzpatrick notes

48:25

that other experts in the field speak

48:27

in similar ways. Quote, Ginny McCarthy is

48:29

dismissive of, woe is me moms, though

48:32

she is not above moaning about how

48:34

shitty her own life is and reminding

48:36

her readers that celebrities suffer like everyone

48:39

else. Still, she finds it difficult to

48:41

accept that other parents don't simply believe

48:43

in alternative treatments. Was it, she asks

48:46

herself, that they didn't want to hope

48:48

or that they enjoyed the victim role?

48:50

I don't know. Maybe they're just trying

48:52

to do what's best for their for

48:55

their kids. Win the

48:57

Chicago Tribune, interviewed Bradstreet about his

48:59

use of IV immunoglobulin or IVIG

49:01

as an autism treatment. He told

49:03

them, every kid with autism should

49:05

have a trial of IVIG if

49:07

money was not an option and

49:09

if IVIG was abundant. Bradstreet also

49:11

became a vocal advocate for hyperbaric

49:14

oxygen therapy, although he did later

49:16

publish research arguing it was ineffective,

49:18

perhaps because it wasn't a big

49:20

moneymaker for his clinic. In 2008,

49:22

more than 5,000 families in meshed

49:24

in the biomedical movement launched a

49:26

lawsuit seeking compensation for vaccine-related harm

49:28

in the US court of federal

49:30

claims. Bradstreet was one of their

49:32

major witnesses. He provided expert testimony,

49:34

which ultimately failed because the special

49:36

masters which is the title name

49:39

of the people who are like

49:41

evaluating this claim look into Bradstreet

49:43

in part to determine if there's

49:45

credible evidence to support the idea

49:47

that vaccines cause autism they conclude

49:49

it doesn't they reject the case

49:51

and one major reason is the

49:53

case of Colton Snyder which they

49:55

examine at length and hold up

49:57

as like this is an example

49:59

of how the malpractice is coming

50:01

from inside the house it's got

50:04

like Bradstreet, right? Yeah. Still, by

50:06

2009, Bradstreet had been in practice

50:08

so long that he claimed his

50:10

institute has records on more than

50:12

4,000 patients. He got a California

50:14

medical license in May of that

50:16

year and established a branch of

50:18

the ICDRC. Two years later, he

50:20

got a Georgia state medical license

50:22

and opened a clinic in Buford.

50:24

Because staying competitive in the industry

50:26

of fake autism treatments required constant

50:29

innovation, Bradshaw became an advocate for

50:31

a new autism cure late in

50:33

his career. G-C-M-A-F. This stands for

50:35

globulin component macrophage activating factor. And

50:37

this is a thing, it's a

50:39

protein and healthy blood that you

50:41

can remove and concentrate and use

50:43

it to treat certain kinds of

50:45

illnesses. Some kind of people are

50:47

sick in a way that injecting

50:49

them with this concentrated... factor can

50:51

help them, right? It's a real

50:54

thing for stuff. Not for this,

50:56

but for stuff. In August of

50:58

2012, he gave a presentation in

51:00

England in which he described injecting

51:02

40 patients with autism with this

51:04

shit, declaring I shouldn't call it

51:06

shit. Well, but the stuff he

51:08

is selling is shit. There's a

51:10

legitimate version of this. That's not

51:12

what he's selling. Declaring, quote, it's

51:14

extremely potent in terms of its

51:16

ability to work for children, he

51:19

announced. Many from this experiment have

51:21

gone into basically lose the label

51:23

of autism. They don't have autistic

51:25

distinctions anymore after sometimes as little

51:27

as 20 weeks of therapy. Yeah,

51:29

this just isn't the way this

51:31

works. It's not really how anything

51:33

works. But Bradstreet tended to show

51:35

up in the kind of crowds

51:37

where he wouldn't be questioned. He

51:39

claimed that doctors in Japan and

51:41

Italy were working on the same

51:44

therapy. And he also cited a

51:46

guy named David Noakes, the head

51:48

of an immunobio tech, which manufactures

51:50

G-C-M-A-F. And he shouts this guy

51:52

out and then offers attendees to

51:54

the speech of 25% discount on

51:56

G-C-M-A-F. Sounds like medicine to me,

51:58

bro. I love it when my

52:00

doctor gives me a fucking coupon

52:02

for blood factor. Great. Well, it's

52:04

coming from- because he's a radio

52:06

host. Sure, yeah, of course, it

52:08

does come, right, right, absolutely. Pera

52:11

Washington Post Peace by Michael Miller,

52:13

quote, what he did not disclose,

52:15

however, was that much of the

52:17

research he cited had already been

52:19

discredited and retracted. The journal considering

52:21

Bradstreet's paper was the scientific equivalent

52:23

of self-publishing, and Bradstreet had close

52:25

ties to Noakes in immunobio tech.

52:27

During the same UK trip, Bradstreet

52:29

and Noakes made what was essentially

52:31

a promotional video for immunobiotech and

52:33

its brand of G.C.MA.F. called First

52:36

Immune. Quote, I'm here with Dr.

52:38

Jeffrey Bradstreet from the USA, the

52:40

autism expert in the first immune

52:42

GCAF laboratories, Noak said on camera.

52:44

Dr. Bradstreet has been using our

52:46

GCAF for 18 months and we'd

52:48

like to thank you for, I

52:50

think you've treated 900 children now?

52:52

Not just children, Bradstreet boasted. So

52:54

the spectrum of my parents with

52:56

autism ranges from somewhere around 18

52:58

months to goodness, somewhere around close

53:01

to 40. So we've treated many

53:03

adults with autism as well as

53:05

chronic fatigue patients, cancer patients. for

53:07

a fairly broad number of disorders

53:09

for the product. The truth, the

53:11

two trading compliments for four minutes

53:13

straight. Just gassing each other up

53:15

for four minutes. Again, sounds like

53:17

medicine. Now, the transcripts for this

53:19

are just impossibly fucking cringy with

53:21

nox saying, we've never met a

53:23

doctor with such an understanding at

53:26

the microbiological level of how autism

53:28

and cancer and other diseases work.

53:30

And again, autism and cancer. Not

53:32

really related. Not a like. Not

53:34

at all like. Other diseases? Again,

53:36

not that I'm not saying autism

53:38

is a disease, but like that's

53:40

the way this guy's talking. It's

53:42

like, no, this isn't medicine. I

53:44

know. Doctors are never like, yeah,

53:46

we figure like this thing helps

53:48

with the flu and I don't

53:51

know, probably lung cancer, fuck it.

53:53

And one of the things like

53:55

Bradstreet goes back to after Noakes

53:57

gas is home, he's like... This

53:59

is the most sterile lab I've

54:01

ever seen. The best equipment. The

54:03

best people. This is the perfect

54:05

like environment for doing good medical

54:07

science. Bradstreet then pivoted to make

54:09

the pitch that the greatest thing

54:11

about GCMAF was that you could

54:13

use it without the presence of

54:16

a doctor. In other words, regular

54:18

parents could just buy the stuff

54:20

and shoot their children up with

54:22

it. quote, it's accessible to anybody

54:24

around the world. Through your internet

54:26

sites, you've made it available very

54:28

broadly. We've used it in South

54:30

Africa, China, India, Eastern Europe, South

54:32

America, and all over. That's been

54:34

a wonderful experience to see parents

54:36

have access to a therapy. And

54:38

like, so there's this, um, this

54:41

drug that's a cousin of Binsos

54:43

that was like Soviet Union Xanax

54:45

that they gave to their astronauts.

54:47

That is like unregulated regulated in

54:49

the US. You can order it

54:51

by the killer ram. I think

54:53

about shit like that. We're like,

54:55

yeah, okay. But what if we

54:57

just did that for children's medicine?

54:59

You know? Oh, maybe it is

55:01

so funny. I don't know. Yeah.

55:03

I just don't understand, like, how,

55:06

like, it's so shameless, like, going

55:08

from children to, like. people with

55:10

autism to like everyone with cancer

55:12

to like it's just unbelievable and

55:14

again the people selling Soviet Xanax

55:16

to strangers on the internet fundamentally

55:18

and honest business you know people

55:20

buy that shit know what they're

55:22

getting you know so this that

55:24

like and you can give it

55:26

to your kids DIY was the

55:28

ultimate pitch to the parents in

55:31

the biomedical treatment community and the

55:33

ultimate evolution of the founding principles

55:35

that parents should be actively engaged,

55:37

not just in caring for their

55:39

child, but in diagnosing and treating

55:41

them. Meanwhile, there was no real

55:43

evidence that GCAMAF benefited children with

55:45

A.S.D. as Baylor School of Tropical

55:47

Medicine Dean Peter Hotas told the

55:49

post. And by the way, Dr.

55:51

Peter Hotas also is the parent

55:53

of a child with autism. An

55:56

initial safety test of GMF injections

55:58

had not even been completed. It

56:00

was still trying to recruit participants.

56:02

So like, the actual doctors are

56:04

being like, we don't even know

56:06

if this is safe. We haven't

56:08

been able to get enough people

56:10

to volunteer to prove that this

56:12

isn't dangerous, not even to show

56:14

that it works. And they're just

56:16

selling this over the fucking internet.

56:18

Even so, Brad Street bragged about

56:21

dosing more than 2,000 children and

56:23

claimed 85% of them improved and

56:25

15% had their autism eradicated. The

56:27

initial hype was massive, but the

56:29

actual comments from parents who used

56:31

the treatment were standard. Some claimed

56:33

small positive, while others claimed hard-to-rate

56:35

changes like, well, he's talking more.

56:37

Many, though, recorded disappointment. We have

56:39

recruited 20 shots of GCMAF so

56:41

far. I am still waiting for

56:43

the wow that everyone talks about,

56:46

one person wrote. Even worse, they

56:48

described side effects including crying and

56:50

pains in his chest and stomach

56:52

for at least the first three.

56:54

We are doing GCAMA of injections.

56:56

I have not seen any gains

56:58

at all, another person wrote. I

57:00

have seen worse behaviors in tantrums.

57:02

So after spending 1300 for no

57:04

gains and living in hell, I'm

57:06

done with this. Yeah, I should

57:08

shoot this into my child with

57:11

a needle. 20 times. It's unbelievable.

57:13

I don't know. Maybe that child

57:15

will be some sorry. I know

57:17

you quote unquote love your kid,

57:19

but that sounds like child abuse

57:21

to me. Yeah, I like, obviously,

57:23

little kids don't understand. Sometimes you

57:25

have to if they're sick, you

57:27

have to give the medicine that

57:29

they don't like that may have

57:31

negative side effects. because that's just

57:33

necessary sometimes, right? I get it,

57:36

but like, to do that for

57:38

no reason. None at all. Also,

57:40

like, I'm sure some of this

57:42

was causing some sort of delirium

57:44

and the kids were talking to

57:46

the result of that. I think

57:48

it's not doing nothing, because by

57:50

the way, mango, we're about to

57:52

talk about where this blood came

57:54

from. Oh, God. Because I know,

57:56

I know, I know, I know

57:58

the first thing. I thought was like, well,

58:01

this is fucked up, this is not just

58:03

fucked up because they're like shooting kids full

58:05

of blood that doesn't do anything or

58:07

maybe it hurts them, but also like

58:09

blood is rare, there's not enough of

58:11

any of these blood factors, people need

58:14

this and you're not getting this stuff

58:16

to people who need it. The good

58:18

news is, that's not an issue here.

58:20

I'm afraid. So nervous. I've spent a

58:22

lot of these episodes talking about what

58:24

a bad idea it is to make

58:26

parents that medical training part of the

58:28

diagnostic and treatment process in this way.

58:30

But the brand street story does have

58:32

a positive ending due to a mom

58:34

of two sons with autism named Fiona

58:36

O'Leary. She came upon his scam and

58:38

she gets angry, right? She is not

58:40

one of these moms who buys in

58:42

the bullshit. She's like, oh, this is

58:44

fucking. dangerous, fuck this guy. She looks

58:46

into his business and the web of

58:49

shady undisclosed financial interests he had with

58:51

immunobio tech. She files complaints with regulators.

58:53

I think this is over in the

58:55

UK. I believe she lives, I don't

58:57

know if she's in the UK proper

58:59

in Northern Ireland, given the name Fiona

59:01

O'Leary, but this leads to the UK's

59:03

equivalent of the FDA, does an

59:05

investigation that culminates in a raid

59:07

on a first immune DCMAF production

59:09

facility near Cambridge. This is the

59:11

lab where he filmed that video.

59:13

where Bradstreet films the video with

59:15

noakes were they gassing each other

59:17

up? Yeah, I heard was pristine. You

59:19

heard that. So while Bradstreet had

59:22

praised the lab's sterility, UK

59:24

regulators described it as making

59:26

GCAF out of, quote, blood

59:29

plasma labeled not to be

59:31

administered to humans or used

59:33

in any drug products. Oh my.

59:35

They're getting this out of the

59:38

shit, blood. Does that make it

59:40

better? Because at least

59:42

regular, like people who need

59:44

blood aren't losing. I don't

59:46

know. I don't know what

59:48

we say here. Oh my

59:51

God. I am sad. Eventually,

59:53

she succeeds. It's so fucked

59:55

up, right? Oh my God.

59:58

Where was this blood? coming

1:00:00

from. She succeeds eventually in getting

1:00:02

US regulators to look into Bradstreet,

1:00:04

which brought the feds to his

1:00:07

door in Buford on June 18th,

1:00:09

2015. Had he been indicted properly,

1:00:11

Bradstreet might have faced 20 years

1:00:14

in prison, according to the suspected

1:00:16

charges of the search warrant. Rather

1:00:18

than endure that. Bradstreet fled town

1:00:20

the next day driving to North

1:00:23

Carolina as he checked into his

1:00:25

hotel. Swiss papers reported a story

1:00:27

from Switzerland that a first immune

1:00:30

clinic in that country run by

1:00:32

Noakes had been shut down after

1:00:34

five patients being treated with GCAMAF

1:00:36

had died. Some had paid almost

1:00:39

as much as 6,000 euros a

1:00:41

week for treatment and to be

1:00:43

clear. We don't know that the

1:00:45

GCA have killed those people. These

1:00:48

were terminal patients, right? But this

1:00:50

was billed as helping terminal conditions

1:00:52

and it didn't, right? So there's

1:00:55

a big raid on his partner

1:00:57

notes. That and the raid on

1:00:59

his own facility in Beauford probably

1:01:01

contributed to Jeffrey's decision to take

1:01:04

his own life on June 19th.

1:01:06

His body was found by a

1:01:08

fisherman that afternoon floating like a

1:01:10

river and the gun he used

1:01:13

was found nearby in the water.

1:01:15

This immediately became a conspiracy for

1:01:17

biomedical advocates, including the CEO of

1:01:20

immunobiotech, who insisted that Jeffrey was

1:01:22

murdered by pharmaceutical companies for stating

1:01:24

that the MR vaccine causes autism

1:01:26

and hurting their profits with his

1:01:29

GMFA therapy. And unfortunately what happens

1:01:31

here is kind of the best

1:01:33

case scenario in this world. One

1:01:35

major agent of harm faces a

1:01:38

teeny bit of justice and then

1:01:40

makes a choice to take himself

1:01:42

out of the picture, right? To

1:01:45

this day, though, Bradstreet remains a

1:01:47

focus of vaccine conspiracies. And I

1:01:49

found this in a Reddit post

1:01:51

on the Our Conspiracy Commons board

1:01:54

from 2022. And it's like a

1:01:56

picture of this guy in a

1:01:58

suit. This is Jeffrey Brad Street.

1:02:00

He found the cure for autism

1:02:03

using oxygen chamber therapy, chelation, and

1:02:05

protein shots for T cells. After

1:02:07

having cured thousands, he was shot

1:02:10

in the back twice at his

1:02:12

mansion, and the FBI raided and

1:02:14

destroyed his cure center the day

1:02:16

after. Now, none of that's accurate.

1:02:19

They raided his center the day

1:02:21

before. He's not at his mansion.

1:02:23

He tries to check into a

1:02:26

hotel and I can't check in

1:02:28

and then he goes to the

1:02:30

river. Like this is just all

1:02:32

wrong. But it's also like such

1:02:35

a hydra, right? Like it feels

1:02:37

like you cut off the head

1:02:39

and like all these others emerge.

1:02:41

It's awful. Yep. Anyway, that's our

1:02:44

story for the week. Happy trails

1:02:46

everybody. Mango you got any plugs

1:02:48

to plug? Yeah definitely I did

1:02:51

a show called Skyline Drive which

1:02:53

is about a skeptical look at

1:02:55

astrology and it's really good. And

1:02:57

I would love for people to

1:03:00

check it out if they have

1:03:02

the time but uh but honestly

1:03:04

Robert Sophie, this is so fun.

1:03:06

I know I was like, just

1:03:09

shocked and saying, oh my God,

1:03:11

more than I probably should have,

1:03:13

but it was both horrifying and,

1:03:16

I don't know, really enlightening. Yep.

1:03:18

Well, glad to be horrifying and

1:03:20

enlightening. Horriff enlightening. And now I

1:03:22

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