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with a parent slash working. It's been

2:10

a minute. I haven't seen you in

2:12

a while. I know it does feel

2:14

like it's been like weirdly a long

2:16

time. I think it's because we spent

2:19

two weeks together and then I never

2:21

saw you again. Yeah yeah yeah yeah

2:23

you're having uh... You know, withdrawal symptom.

2:25

Yeah, J.R. withdrawals. But you got a

2:27

good fixing with your sway boys. I

2:29

did. I did. We did a little

2:31

sway reunion, which is pretty tight. Everyone

2:33

came to the crib, which was fun.

2:35

We've been trying to plan that since

2:37

I was planning the fire stream. So

2:39

that's been like a long time coming.

2:41

But it was awesome. It was sick

2:44

to do a little stream, have a

2:46

bunch of, you know, like... I feel

2:48

like O.G. fans getting to really appreciate

2:50

that and have fun with that and

2:52

now we're talking about where do we

2:54

go from here like do we start

2:56

doing a little bit more in like

2:58

the live streaming area I don't think

3:00

all the boys will always come through

3:02

for every stream but I do think

3:04

there's like a majority of that group

3:06

that wants to start doing fun streams

3:09

like three day four day five day

3:11

streams we talked about doing like sway

3:13

seas where we go out in the

3:15

water and like we're on a boat

3:17

for like five days and like We

3:19

only eat what we catch. We only

3:21

like survive off of like, you know,

3:23

being survivalist. We talked about going to

3:25

Japan to do a stream. We talked

3:27

about doing Brazil. We're talking about doing

3:29

a camping stream. Yeah, we got a

3:31

lot of stuff. Well, you guys are

3:34

got a lot of streams to do.

3:36

Yeah, we want to do like Calgary

3:38

stampede. We want to do like an

3:40

iglo stream, like go to like Alaska

3:42

or something crazy. How are you going

3:44

to have any connection out there? What's

3:46

up with the star link going on?

3:48

You know what I mean? Oh, okay.

3:50

All right. We will figure it out.

3:52

We'll figure it out. We'll figure it

3:54

all out. Well, I have a lot

3:56

of questions about the sway stream that

3:59

just happened. Okay. Okay. So obviously, the

4:01

elephant in the room, Jayden. Join the

4:03

stream yes, yeah, and Okay, there was

4:05

so much. Okay. Where do I begin

4:07

so Jayden Jordan the stream and You

4:09

guys like hugs you kind of talked

4:11

it out you had a little sit-down

4:13

moment Was it all very genuine? How

4:15

did you feel do you feel like

4:17

you got what you needed out of

4:19

the conversation? Yeah, yeah, I mean I

4:21

think it's it's kind of I might

4:24

sound like redundant or sound like I'm

4:26

saying the same thing that I said

4:28

on the stream but I think It

4:30

was like a it was like a

4:32

closure experience I guess in a way

4:34

or like a good way just to

4:36

come full circle but I think that

4:38

I think that like it was good

4:40

for the boys to be able to

4:42

get that out but I think more

4:44

at least how I felt about it

4:46

I felt like more it was kind

4:48

of for the people that watched us

4:51

on a daily basis and like support

4:53

so much and like uh... got us

4:55

to where we are in our you

4:57

know separate careers uh... like give back

4:59

to that more than anything else uh...

5:01

that's what that to me the whole

5:03

stream was about like getting to give

5:05

back to the audience that made sway

5:07

possible and everything so i think it

5:09

was cool i think it was good

5:11

so after the stream you were like

5:13

fuck y'all that was just for the

5:16

fans i still hate you jaded no

5:18

no that's not what i'm like way

5:20

to put words in my mouth no

5:22

no no no i think it's just

5:24

like it's just like I said it

5:26

on the in one of the clips

5:28

like I think the toughest part about

5:30

the entire situation was like not necessarily

5:32

losing a girlfriend or something like that

5:34

but more losing a best friend at

5:36

that age is tough because you don't

5:38

make a lot of more best friends

5:41

after the age of 21 you know

5:43

you kind of have your best friends

5:45

that you've grown up with because there's

5:47

a aspect of being a best friend

5:49

with someone that You need to have

5:51

a history, right? Like that's part of

5:53

being a best friend. You have those

5:55

inside jokes. You've known each other for

5:57

a long time. Yeah, you can still

5:59

make close friends and you... might even

6:01

make one or two more people that

6:03

you consider a best friend but typically

6:06

those people that you have in that

6:08

college relationship with those college years which

6:10

was like my sway experience those are

6:12

those people that you you know still

6:14

see when you're 40 or you still

6:16

have like these like meetups every year

6:18

and go hang out with them so

6:20

I think that was the toughest part

6:22

about it all like knowing that'll never

6:24

get to a hundred percent again is

6:26

probably like the tough part about it

6:28

because you know there's obviously a part

6:31

of me that's like man I wish

6:33

we all could be sway again or

6:35

like all just be friends again and

6:37

all go get to hang out and

6:39

do whatever but there's never gonna be

6:41

a time where like you know there's

6:43

not something like in the back of

6:45

my head or a voice in the

6:47

back of my head being like oh

6:49

you gotta be careful gotta be careful

6:51

gotta be you know what I'm saying

6:53

I mean I can relate to that

6:56

so much I feel I'm the best

6:58

friend breakup queen and it sucks because

7:00

like you said with best friends there's

7:02

so much history there and you're you

7:04

don't feel like you can really recreate

7:06

the magic but then it's like even

7:08

if you do amend things like it's

7:10

never fully gonna be the same yeah

7:12

so like you know I I feel

7:14

like I was able to do this

7:16

dream and like I'm so past anything

7:18

that like I guess I would say

7:21

happened to me or anything that happened

7:23

in that house because I'm just so

7:25

content with my life you know I'm

7:27

so happy with where I'm at I'm

7:29

so happy with who I have in

7:31

my life who I've surrounded myself with

7:33

like the person that I've become and

7:35

I'm still growing into and in becoming

7:37

and I have an amazing girl in

7:39

my corner. That's you know my biggest

7:41

fan and always supporting me and I

7:43

I'm doing the same for her in

7:46

trying to do that more and more

7:48

so it's like I I have so

7:50

many good things There's not enough room

7:52

to like to hold like some grudge.

7:54

There's not like there's no need for

7:56

that. There's no need for that. So

7:58

that's that's really how I looked at

8:00

it all was just what's the point

8:02

of like having this like hostility or this

8:05

you know thing eating at me when I

8:07

I have so many things to be

8:09

blessed for and like enjoy and be

8:11

grateful for and you know that's from

8:13

my personal life to work life to

8:16

everything family like people are in in

8:18

good health everything's great so it's like

8:20

there's nothing nothing to be too

8:23

concerned about it's a beautiful way to look

8:25

at it Jay Yeah, you know, trying

8:27

to grow up, trying to grow up,

8:29

even though some people still call me,

8:32

you know, a little brother that is

8:34

picking their nose or whatever, you

8:36

get that in a, you know. Well, they

8:38

asked me what the relationship was

8:41

like, and this was right

8:43

after New Orleans, when you

8:45

were just being disgusting. And I

8:47

wasn't being disgusting. You were

8:49

being disgusting, and you, I just,

8:51

you do little brother shit, where

8:54

it's like, this is corrupt. I

8:56

think I said Jay is like my

8:58

little brother, you know, he does like

9:00

the gross shit where he's picking his

9:02

nose and stuff, but I love him

9:05

and I love seeing him come into

9:07

himself on the pod. Okay,

9:09

relax. Come into who you are.

9:11

Don't be gross little brother shit,

9:14

right there. Proven my point.

9:16

Point proven, point proven, Jay.

9:18

I must be flexible as

9:20

hell. Point proven. Point proven.

9:23

Point proven. Okay, see? Point

9:25

proven right there. On

9:28

the podcast, too? Okay,

9:30

relax. See? Enough, enough.

9:32

Disgusting, Bree. You're really,

9:34

like, the little sister

9:37

that... I'm big sis. Oh, I'm

9:39

big sis. I'm big mama. Oh,

9:41

you, dude. That's just a

9:43

lot of thing we've been

9:45

saying. Have you been caught

9:47

up to speed on the

9:50

bad baby, Danielle? Wait, what

9:52

the hell? Bad baby in Alabama

9:54

barkership? A little bit.

9:57

We reacted to part of

9:59

the contracts. on the stream, but

10:01

Bryce very quickly was like,

10:03

they're both ass. So we

10:05

stopped reacting to them. But I

10:07

thought I thought that Daniel Brigolgi

10:10

went crazy. She won't stop.

10:12

She's on like her third

10:14

district and Alabama hasn't even

10:16

been able to get any

10:18

out and she just keeps

10:20

going going and then Alabama

10:22

made a district and dissed

10:24

her her baby, bad baby's

10:26

little baby. She made a baby

10:28

dish? She made a baby dish. She

10:30

dissed the baby! Oh, dude! I'm like,

10:33

come on! Why are you dissing

10:35

the baby? I just don't get

10:37

it! That's obviously messed up. And

10:39

you know, you shouldn't diss a

10:42

baby. But like... I don't

10:44

think anything's off limits and

10:46

disses though, right? I guess. I don't

10:48

know. I mean, if you pull out though,

10:51

and you forget those are two

10:53

people, right? Like, those are two,

10:55

like human beings. Someone did

10:57

making a disc track on a

10:59

baby hilarious like that is really

11:02

fun. Yeah, like if it was

11:04

directed like just strictly like awful

11:06

could hate this baby That's that

11:08

is the funniest thing ever I

11:11

To write about that I'm gonna write

11:13

yeah, I was just saying like that's

11:15

gonna be a sketch and that's funny

11:18

because we had a sketch idea where

11:20

like there's this guy that uh

11:22

Keeps beeping with this baby like the baby's like

11:24

all cute and everyone thinks it's so cute But

11:26

the baby keeps like giving like side-eye looks to

11:29

this guy even like kind of like steals his

11:31

girl like does all this and like the guy

11:33

starts like arguing with the baby But obviously no

11:35

one sees the baby doing anything crazy. It's just

11:37

this guy like cussing out a baby That's

11:40

crazy that she she does to baby.

11:42

Yeah. It's it's pretty tough to watch.

11:44

There's just no coming back for her,

11:46

but Danielle just keeps going and going

11:48

and going and going and I'm like,

11:51

Alabama, I think you just need a

11:53

lot. Well, wave the white flag. Right,

11:55

right, right, right. Just give up. Yeah, but

11:57

I think my favorite part about

11:59

this. situation has been the meme

12:01

that's been built off of Landon Barker

12:04

just in his little like dance anything

12:06

like that. Me and the boys made

12:08

a video to that and people thought

12:10

I was people thought I was bullying

12:12

Landon. They were like wow the bullying

12:14

land I'm like what what are you

12:16

guys talking about we just did the video

12:18

and tagged them and like yeah Landon's

12:21

also like a friend of mine. Yeah

12:23

no that's not bullying I think that's

12:25

just like getting in on the jokes

12:28

with Landon but um Yeah, I feel

12:30

bad for Alabama Barker honestly because

12:32

there's no coming back for

12:34

it And I feel like she's this

12:37

is just gonna be like the shit

12:39

stain of her life. She just always

12:41

gonna be the bad baby

12:43

dish miss women Yeah, yeah,

12:45

it's tough. I mean you

12:47

went against you went against

12:49

Gucci flip-flops. You can't go

12:51

against Gucci flip-flops. Ash Trevino

12:53

was getting finger blasted on

12:56

live Okay,

12:58

so on TikTok? On TikTok Live. And

13:00

it was like just going, the stream was

13:03

going. She was like, she was live streaming

13:05

with someone. Okay, this is like what

13:07

everyone has gathered. This is what everyone

13:09

is like assuming was happening. She's like

13:11

on live with another person and she

13:14

keeps like talking and there's someone in

13:16

the bed with her, but then she

13:18

keeps making like crazy. or gasmic faces

13:20

and like can't keep them to herself

13:22

and then she like try to come back

13:24

to herself and then make crazy sounds and

13:27

crazy faces and yeah she's just out of

13:29

her mind and that brings me to Bri

13:31

Olson on the live stream what the hell

13:33

is up with that? Yeah, yeah, yeah, um

13:35

not too much of my girl Gabby

13:37

not too much on my girl

13:39

Gabby She said that she's gonna

13:42

bitch slap Gabby. She's gonna slap

13:44

Gabby the only thing that's getting

13:46

slapped is her ass behind bars

13:49

from child protection services Go take

13:51

care of your not what did

13:54

Gabby do to besides sit there

13:56

and look pretty? Do you think

13:58

like you really are? uh... i don't

14:00

know what it is narcissistic egotistical

14:03

uh... delusional schizophrenic maybe in what

14:05

world do you think you're on

14:07

Gabriella Morris radar in what world

14:09

what i can tell you not

14:11

this one not this multiverse there's

14:13

no world Gabby even knew who

14:16

you were or uh... had ever

14:18

heard of you in her life

14:20

Until after we got out of

14:22

saddle the whole like she was

14:24

looking at me the whole time

14:26

Come on. Nobody in that place

14:29

was looking at you the whole

14:31

time I can tell you that

14:33

right now the only time someone

14:35

might have been looking at you

14:37

was to be like damn woman

14:40

put on some clothes. All right.

14:42

So relax. Relax. Take a step

14:44

down. And first of all. I'm

14:46

sorry you've never seen a healthy

14:48

relationship. But you know. When two

14:50

people really enjoy each other's company,

14:53

they typically stay close together. She

14:55

wasn't following me around. She's enjoying

14:57

my company. I didn't see her

14:59

for three days. I didn't see

15:01

her for three days, all right?

15:04

So you better just watch yourself.

15:06

I know you don't know what

15:08

a healthy relationship is, but that's

15:10

what it looks like. That's what

15:12

when two people are in love,

15:14

that's what they look like. So

15:17

anyways, yeah, we were there, we're

15:19

at Saddle ranch, and I don't.

15:22

The saddle has always been good to

15:24

the sway boys the owner there everyone

15:26

there They've always been really good to

15:28

us. So we thought why not end

15:31

the sway reunion stream with going to

15:33

saddle range I know I loved that

15:35

that was really cool I thought it

15:38

was like you know the boys have

15:40

brought it up and and we were

15:42

all like yeah, let's do this like

15:44

this a cool little way to You

15:47

know end this actually I had my

15:49

friend Johnny Guaz text me and was

15:51

like yo we saw you're doing the

15:54

sway stream if you guys want to

15:56

come to come to saddle pull through

15:58

like You still have like your black

16:00

card there because I had gotten a

16:03

black card at Saddle Ranch one time.

16:05

Oh my god that is so LA

16:07

influencer you have a black card to

16:10

Saddle Ranch. Yeah and they put. like

16:12

something crazy like 10,000 15,000 dollars on

16:14

this card so like every guy. So

16:16

that's that so shout our saddle first

16:19

of all, but we're there and you

16:21

know they give us this big middle

16:23

table like that we're sitting at because

16:26

we have a huge group with us

16:28

for like productions all there, crews all

16:30

that everyone's there and I'm walking through

16:32

and she like shouts out some comment

16:35

along the lines of you know like

16:37

if y' I'll keep walking into my

16:39

table, y'all gonna have to buy me

16:42

drinks. No, no, we don't. Not doing

16:44

that. So we just kind of kept

16:46

walking. And I told Anthony, you know,

16:48

that same thing I just told you,

16:51

like, oh, we walked by in this

16:53

random person, like, had the other. Yeah,

16:55

we didn't know, we didn't even know

16:58

who she was until we got the

17:00

download of Ashervino. Two episodes ago one

17:02

episode ago because the whole internet was

17:04

talking about her so we like I

17:07

watched a documentary on her on YouTube

17:09

so that I could fill you in

17:11

Because the whole internet was talking about

17:14

her and then like I briefly I

17:16

think they talked a little bit about

17:18

Brelson in that but like no Yeah,

17:20

yeah, like we didn't know who she

17:23

was and I didn't really know who

17:25

she was until this live stream when

17:27

she said she was going to slap

17:30

you and Gabi so like oh she

17:32

was when I was the live stream.

17:34

Yeah I knew you didn't because you

17:36

didn't know who asked when I was

17:39

explaining at Trevino I so barely knew

17:41

and you were clueless so like you

17:43

didn't know who she was at the

17:46

stream then there's no world where Gabby

17:48

knew who she was during the stream

17:50

you know I don't even I I

17:52

had literally zero idea so I mean

17:55

still wasn't a fan when I didn't

17:57

know her and so you know I

17:59

tell Anthony like I'm like some random

18:02

person asked her drink like what the

18:04

hell and then i i i make

18:06

a joke to Anthony and i was

18:08

like i was like first of all

18:11

like we're out in public put some

18:13

clothes on you know what i'm saying

18:15

and then he told me the story

18:18

of i i i don't really remember

18:20

I honestly just I think I just

18:22

had a few beds in me and

18:24

I was getting a little I was

18:27

just like I was in a mode

18:29

you know I normally wouldn't condone that

18:31

still kind of don't but because she

18:34

said you would she would slap you

18:36

and Gabby then I'll let you say

18:38

it I a hundred percent condone it

18:40

you have a kid go take care

18:43

of your kid no I agree with

18:45

that I agree with that you know

18:47

I I am so backing myself and

18:50

I will I Double down, triple down,

18:52

quadrupled down, quadrupled down. I'll send tippled

18:54

down. No, I know. Anything's on limits

18:56

with this. So anyways, then uh, Anthony

18:59

kind of gives me this rundown while

19:01

we're outside and he's like, yo, this

19:03

is this person. They have like this

19:06

like house or whatever. It's like, I

19:08

think it's something like the, the runaway

19:10

from their first born house or something

19:12

like that. I don't remember exactly. But

19:15

it's like this crib and so she

19:17

had like left her baby daddy 2K

19:19

and like this guy with the kid

19:22

and then like made these like false

19:24

claims on it like it was like

19:26

this big crazy story so I was

19:28

like oh wow what the hell W2K

19:31

W2K so we were just like running

19:33

around making jokes about W2K all night

19:35

long and I see I tried to

19:38

understand what what does that mean? W-2-K.

19:40

So that was kind of the the

19:42

situation I was really just run down

19:44

from my source Anthony, oh I was

19:47

oh my god. I was thinking the

19:49

basketball game No, no, no, no, no,

19:51

I was so fucking confused W-2-K the

19:54

game and the guy. Okay, all right

19:56

W-2-K So that was kind of the

19:58

the situation I was really just run

20:00

down from my source Anthony and then

20:03

That was it for the night like

20:05

I never ran into I never I

20:07

never saw it again I never like

20:10

I mean never really choose to associate

20:12

either so we were outside for a

20:14

lot of the rest of the night

20:17

wrapped up the stream and then And

20:19

very quickly after we went back to

20:21

the crib because Gabby was flying out

20:23

that night to go to Puerto Rico.

20:26

So, yeah, and that's that. I was

20:28

that then my sister made a video.

20:30

I saw that. I texted Gabby immediately

20:33

when I saw, I was fuming and

20:35

I was like, I'm gonna make a

20:37

video, but then I was like, you

20:39

know what, I feel like that's what.

20:42

she wants. It's everyone to like talk

20:44

about her. But this is a weird

20:46

side quest. Last night, Stiney went and

20:49

did a live stream with World of

20:51

T-shirts, right? And he face times me.

20:53

I just think it's Stiney. I open

20:55

it. It's World of T-shirts. I'm on

20:58

the stream and they say Brie. And

21:00

then someone like puts in the chat.

21:02

And they were telling me to come

21:05

meet them at the bar. And I

21:07

think they thought it was Bri Olson

21:09

because someone put like spent $15 to

21:11

say in the chat like Tell that

21:14

scam and ass ho that the restraining

21:16

order is only good in LA County.

21:18

It doesn't count in New York City.

21:21

I'm gonna come meet you at the

21:23

bar. Me and my goons are gonna

21:25

settle this. You scam and ass ho.

21:27

So I would assume like When I

21:30

put everything together, I would just assume

21:32

that would have to be about Brelsink,

21:34

because L.A. County, I don't have her

21:37

straining orders on anyone, breathe. I was

21:39

like, what the fuck is going on?

21:41

Get me off of this live stream.

21:43

Yeah, that's wild. That's wild. So yeah.

21:46

She has a lot of enemies, I

21:48

think. Yes, you know. No, I just

21:50

thought I was answering a facetime to

21:53

Siney, and then he opens, and then

21:55

he opens. I just want him to

21:57

get better. I was kind of stepping

21:59

out of that. Is it, is pancreatitis,

22:02

like, can you catch that? Oh no,

22:04

I wasn't staying away to catch it.

22:06

I just, I don't think we should

22:09

be promoting his drinking. You can't catch,

22:11

it's not like syphilis. Wicked, wicked. Wicked,

22:13

I don't, no, wicked bad. Yeah, get,

22:15

get well. Yeah, get well. Soon. Yeah,

22:18

get well soon. Dream just will call

22:20

back to there was a lot of

22:22

production. Who's that camera? Who was that

22:25

production guy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

22:27

Yeah. The. Who's that boy? People were

22:29

talking. I mean, I'm pretty sure the

22:31

last time I look there was an

22:34

edit. If I look up. Sway. There's

22:36

one with like 80,000 likes. Yep. Who

22:38

are booming about this man? I mean,

22:41

he's the hottest, he's the sway boy

22:43

that I had my eyes on. I

22:45

was like, oh my gosh. The way

22:47

boy that never was a part of

22:50

sway, he was the missing sway boy,

22:52

but, um, his name is, yeah, his

22:54

name's Kim. Kim, cool. Him, cool. Him.

22:57

Cool. Interesting. You could

22:59

do that. Yep. And they say shoot

23:01

a shoot together. Kim was up with

23:03

you. Wait, what did you say? We

23:05

could do like carnival together. That would

23:07

have been a really funny, timely video

23:09

for you to update. Like if you

23:12

would have made like, I know, but

23:14

I don't think it was out yet.

23:16

And you did like the sway cameraman.

23:18

Like, that would have done numbers. Would

23:20

have done numbers. Wow. Should have thought

23:22

about it. To get talking about streaming

23:24

I think we should eventually do like

23:27

a BFF street. I know I think

23:29

what could we do I want to

23:31

do a cool one though too like

23:33

you want to go to the ocean

23:35

like we should do something insane Yeah,

23:37

yeah, no definitely I think like if

23:39

we have to do a stream We

23:42

should let the listeners pick Yeah, maybe

23:44

the listeners in the comment section right

23:46

now give us some ideas of what

23:48

they want to see us to drop

23:50

a stream like a 72 hour What's

23:52

like, or like, or like, or like,

23:54

I'll do 72 hour. Would you be

23:57

able to do 72 hours? Yeah, I

23:59

actually owe the people 72 hours, so.

24:01

Yeah, let's do it. There we go.

24:03

You heard it here first. Give us

24:05

ideas. Maybe like somewhere in the wilderness

24:07

or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I

24:09

can do. I like that. That's fun.

24:12

We have to make fire and we

24:14

have to catch fish and shit. Yep.

24:16

I guess I just stole that from

24:18

your eyes. Survivor idea. But that's okay.

24:20

That's okay. That's whatever. We can figure

24:22

something out. The listeners will give us

24:24

some. Yeah. Okay, cool. So I'm glad

24:27

the streamer. No, no one no one

24:29

really got on each other's nerves too

24:31

much. I feel like everyone was pretty

24:33

pretty chill I saw Bryce starting to

24:35

lose that Bryce and Blake were starting

24:37

to lose it a little bit when

24:39

Quinton was just you know being the

24:42

JBL speaker kid like he was just

24:44

walking around with the JBL speaker the

24:46

entire time like playing music and it

24:48

was funny because he was just playing

24:50

his own music Wait, that's a go

24:52

promo. It also wasn't released music. It

24:54

was released music. It was unreleased music.

24:57

It was unreleased music. So it's like

24:59

nobody could sing along. No one can

25:01

like no one can like sing along

25:03

which like the first time they were

25:05

showing the unreleased music it was cool

25:07

you know because we're like oh no

25:09

like we haven't heard this and like

25:12

you know they start going through the

25:14

list a second time and it's like

25:16

okay all right no this is still

25:18

though this is dope I like this

25:20

and then it's the third time and

25:22

you're like all right we've we've got

25:24

a we got it like. We've got

25:27

to play like something maybe that everybody

25:29

knows. Yeah, maybe switch it up. But

25:31

he's hoping you guys learn the lyrics

25:33

by the third time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

25:35

he wants us to know the lyrics.

25:37

And then, you know, once the seventh

25:39

time in a row comes along, it's

25:42

like, all right, maybe we turn the

25:44

speaker off now. It's three in the

25:46

morning. Yeah, cut it out. I also

25:48

saw what else, one more thing from

25:50

the stream. Dixie showed up. She felt

25:52

a little ambushed a little ambushed by

25:54

Bryce and Griffin in Griffin in the

25:57

beginning. Yeah, yeah, so Jayden dropped a

25:59

bomb. Yeah, Jayden dropped a bomb. That

26:01

was obviously before she had arrived. But

26:03

the whole ambush thing I think would.

26:05

was completely misunderstood. Because I had, Dixie

26:07

had said something after the stream that

26:09

was like, I knew I was coming

26:11

on to be recorded. It didn't have

26:14

to do with the, it didn't have

26:16

to do with the Bryce of it

26:18

all or him coming up. It had

26:20

to do with like, I think something

26:22

to do with like getting miked up

26:24

and like the mics going up her

26:26

shirt and down her shirt. Yeah. Yeah.

26:29

It wasn't like the Bryce coming up.

26:31

She knew that, like she was expecting

26:33

that. How do you not expect it?

26:35

Yeah, she's coming into a live stream.

26:37

And she was so into, like, she

26:39

was so funny and good on the

26:41

live stream. So I think, yeah, people

26:44

enjoyed it. And she said that she

26:46

really enjoyed it as well. Yeah, fuck,

26:48

yeah. Love Dixie. Should we do some

26:50

headlines? Yeah, let's get into some headlines.

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episode. Have you seen... Wait, do you

27:46

know the food boys, the food boy

27:48

podcast, did you see that Dave is

27:50

with them today? Dave is with them

27:52

today? Oh Josh, they are. So we

27:54

got chub perm, nonchalant, no name, and

27:56

McLovin. It's these four boys that are

27:59

like middle school age, maybe like... in

28:01

high school and they started a podcast

28:03

where they just talk about food. And

28:05

they went viral because essentially the comments

28:07

are just the funniest fucking thing in

28:09

the world and like everyone dissects all

28:11

of their banter and they're literally just

28:14

like, yeah, ketchup's kind of fire. I

28:16

like cauliflower like it is just bad

28:18

and they are blowing the fuck up

28:20

and Dave went and did a pizza

28:22

review with them today. Look at his

28:24

Instagram story right now. I have never

28:26

seen Dave look so happy. in his

28:29

life. He's getting his sense of

28:31

youth back with these boys. So

28:33

he feels like he's with the

28:35

the swayboys again. Yeah, this is

28:38

new. He's gonna have a new

28:40

podcast. This is why he left

28:42

BFFs. Yeah, he's gonna start this.

28:45

He's gonna start this. BFFs.

28:47

BFFs Junior. Yeah, this age

28:49

gaps too much though, D. Come

28:51

on. I'm excited for that.

28:53

Oh, this year boy Braxton.

28:55

I actually texted him. I

28:57

was like, uh, gonna be excited

28:59

to see you playing in

29:02

Houston. Hope your phone. That's a

29:04

great team. It's a great team to

29:06

go to. That is a good team.

29:08

Great team. I love the Texans. Super

29:11

happy for Braxton. Happy

29:13

for Alex. She loves Texas. Yeah.

29:15

Yeah. I wonder if you're

29:17

gonna do the move. Wonder if

29:19

they're gonna, you know. No, she's,

29:22

no way. She's gonna move. She's

29:24

no. around talking about Texans.

29:26

Another Texans fan is sketch.

29:29

I saw you posted a

29:31

story about sketch. That was

29:33

my close friends. Oh, that was

29:35

my close friends. But we can

29:38

go into it if we would

29:40

like. No, I mean. If you want to

29:42

keep it your close friends, you can. I

29:44

think sketch is hot. This podcast is

29:46

called BFFs. I think sketch is hot.

29:48

What was I told you the whole time

29:51

we were in New Orleans with him? I

29:53

was like, I have a crush on sketch.

29:55

I told sketch I have a crush on

29:57

him. I think he's hot, funny, cute, hilarious,

29:59

and nice. Yeah, you posted, I don't

30:01

care what other people say. I think he's

30:03

hot. Okay, I didn't write all that. I

30:06

wrote, there was, okay, so sketch played in.

30:08

I don't care what people say, he's

30:10

hot. And then she posted an edit

30:12

of him playing in the soccer tournament

30:14

as the keeper. She was like, man,

30:17

and under the post, she said, I don't

30:19

care what people say, but he's hot. It

30:21

was the video of his soccer. I said,

30:23

I don't care, he's hot. And then

30:25

she was like, I'd let his balls

30:28

in. Okay, that's crazy. I could,

30:30

I did not fucking say that. I'd

30:32

let his balls go in my net.

30:34

Can you, I mean, that's funny, but

30:36

no, balls in my net. Stop it.

30:39

But he played in the, in

30:41

the, in the tournament. Balls is

30:43

like that sketch. That's what she

30:45

said. Okay. If you're on gloves

30:47

to hold your balls sketch,

30:49

that's what she said. I wouldn't

30:51

put on, I wouldn't put on

30:54

gloves. Okay. Okay. He's a smoke

30:56

show. I don't care. Sketch is the

30:58

best. I've never had better interactions with

31:00

a human being. And yeah, I said

31:02

it. I can't believe you just aired

31:04

out my close friend's story like

31:06

that. I honestly had no idea.

31:08

It was your close friend's story

31:10

and I'll even make this worse. I

31:12

didn't even see the story. Who told

31:15

you? Gabby. No, it wasn't Gabby. It

31:17

wasn't Gabby. Who the fuck would tell

31:19

you. I'm trying to think of who's on

31:21

my story. Who's on my story. Who's

31:23

on my story. I think it

31:25

was Blake. Blake is not on

31:27

my story. Blake Hooker? Blake

31:30

Hooker? Who was Blake Hooker?

31:32

I think it was B. Hunt show

31:34

that show, or told me. And

31:36

show me. Oh, because Grace is on

31:38

my close friends. Oh, so

31:41

maybe it was like a

31:43

trickle-down bang. It was a

31:45

trickle-down thing. Yeah. Well, wow. Guess

31:47

my love life is the talk

31:49

of the town. Yeah. Yep. No, I just

31:52

love sketch to death. So if you're not

31:54

married by 40 and you want to

31:56

get married sketch. Yep. Nice. Yep.

31:58

Doing a lot of shooting. shoot this

32:00

episode. Yeah yeah yeah but what's

32:02

new? Okay I've actually never shot

32:05

my shot ever publicly with anyone

32:07

now I'm just being crazy.

32:09

What's new? Yeah what else you want

32:11

to talk about? Man I mean any other

32:13

guys you want to that's what the

32:15

show is now. You think I'm dumb enough

32:18

to tell you anything you dumb

32:20

dirty hoe? I wouldn't even tell you

32:22

what color socks I got all. You

32:24

already told me what color shoes

32:26

you had on? Yellow. Not the socks.

32:29

There is a lot of barstled drama

32:31

that we're not involved in so

32:33

it's kind of cool and fun to

32:35

see. See? Have you seen it? I haven't

32:37

seen it. I saw a little clip

32:39

of it and I scrolled by. Okay.

32:41

Do you want me to fill you

32:43

in? It's kind of funny. Yeah, I want

32:45

to be filled. And I was

32:48

assuming you were going to film

32:50

in because usually you have a,

32:52

you know, a little bit more

32:54

of the finger and the pulse of

32:57

the bar stool drama. So I

32:59

was like, I'll see. But this one

33:01

is in Chicago. So I came

33:03

up on my feed and there

33:05

are two girls in Chicago,

33:07

King Crabby Patty in Ella.

33:09

And there is this boy, Nikki

33:11

Smokes, what's with... Yeah, that is a name

33:14

steal and no one can do it like

33:16

the real smokes does it. So I

33:18

don't know but does Tommy smokes and

33:20

Nikki smokes have be over through smoke?

33:22

I think everyone knows who the real

33:24

smokes is and Tommy doesn't beef with

33:27

anyone. He's just a good guy. Actually, I

33:29

have to invite him to my

33:31

party after this episode. Okay, but

33:33

anyways, Nikki smokes, the second smokes.

33:36

He dated King Crabby Patty for

33:38

a while. They're like on and

33:40

off, but they still works together.

33:42

They're still Ella, King Crabby Patti,

33:44

are friends, girlfriends, like friends that

33:47

are girls in the Chicago office.

33:49

So there was one day where

33:51

Ella went and got drinks with

33:53

Nikki Smokes, King Crabby Patti's

33:55

ex, and she turned her

33:57

location off. And King Crabby...

34:00

Abby Patty noticed that she turned her

34:02

location off and she was like, that's kind

34:04

of sketchy. We're friends, you turned your

34:06

location off and you went and got

34:08

drinks with my ex. And then it

34:10

kind of all unfolded at Brandon Walker,

34:12

rest in pieces, funeral. And everyone went

34:14

crazy. She kind of freaked out at

34:16

Nicki Smokes, he freaked out at her,

34:19

the Ella girl was like, no one

34:21

wants to fuck Nicki smokes, and the

34:23

crowd erupted. So there's beef. What

34:25

do you think about that? What do

34:27

you think? I want to see your

34:30

take you're an outsider that has no

34:32

idea about these people Okay, so say

34:34

hmm. How do I put how do I

34:36

put this because you're a boy? So I

34:38

get all of this Weird to turn off

34:40

the location. That's what I'm saying like

34:42

the location thing if your friend like

34:45

you and Gabby broke up Blake goes

34:47

and gets drink drinks with Gabby

34:49

and turns the location off Yeah,

34:52

no that would never we wouldn't be

34:54

friends That's weird. The location

34:56

turn off just feels unnecessary

34:58

if nothing's happening. Yeah,

35:01

exactly. You don't turn off your

35:03

location if you have nothing to

35:05

hide. Yeah. There's no, there's no,

35:07

like what's your excuse? Oh, I didn't

35:10

want you to get mad. So what

35:12

you were gonna never tell me about

35:14

it? You were just gonna not ever

35:16

tell me that you guys went and

35:18

got drinks. Fair. Fair. That's

35:20

also true though. Devil's advocate though. I don't

35:23

really know these girls friendship. So like I

35:25

don't know if she was like she was

35:27

just like stressed about it and she's like

35:29

we're not that close. So I just don't

35:31

want her to think anything of it. I

35:33

do believe the Ella girl when she says

35:35

she doesn't want to fuck Nikki smokes because

35:37

I'm just going to go ahead and believe

35:39

that one and no shade no tea. But

35:41

I think just don't turn your location off

35:43

and maybe it wouldn't have been weird. Yeah,

35:45

yeah, I gotta I gotta say that's

35:47

strange. I mean if you were if

35:49

you were friends if you consider yourself

35:52

friends like good friends Super weird. Yeah,

35:54

that's that's what we don't know their

35:56

level of friendship. So I don't

35:58

know the drama unfolded and unbusted

36:00

and I'm just glad we

36:02

weren't there watching it. Because

36:05

awkward! I would have loved to have

36:07

been watching it. I hate

36:09

secondhand, like anxiety from that

36:11

shit. I can't even watch Milk

36:14

Prank videos. I think I would

36:16

eat that right up. You would? You love

36:18

that shit. I think I wouldn't

36:20

love the setting. You said it

36:22

happened at the funeral? Yes, but

36:24

he's not actually dead. Yeah,

36:29

it was not oh yeah, we should

36:31

clarify that he's it was a

36:33

it was a fake funeral because

36:35

his contract was up and he

36:37

was like leaving Barstool and he

36:39

was present at his own

36:41

funeral I I I noticed but I

36:44

was like smiling when you were telling

36:46

the story and I just said all

36:48

right I went into my serious remorse

36:50

face tell what I didn't even fucking

36:53

think of that I just assume everyone

36:55

knows yeah, no I went into my

36:57

I went you were trained well

36:59

let me not just sad a

37:01

little a little tear RIP

37:04

Brennan Walker no he's alive

37:06

and shining okay okay wow

37:08

through me for a loop through me

37:10

for a loop yeah that's good one

37:12

more life one more life one

37:14

more mouth to feed on the

37:16

search man I mean we touched on

37:18

it but congrats on elite

37:21

daily oh thank you was a

37:23

little piece yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

37:25

they were cool photos yeah it was

37:27

fun Like did you have something stuck

37:29

in your teeth? Why was your fingers

37:32

in your mouth so much? Yeah,

37:34

they told me to pretend that

37:36

I was checking like pretend you're

37:38

getting ready before the photo booth Instead

37:40

of like actually the photo booth. Yeah,

37:42

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so those

37:44

hands was all up in the all

37:46

in your mouth Yeah, you used hand

37:48

sanitizer at least that day. Yeah, for

37:51

sure. Oh, we do have the direct

37:53

quote he picks on me like I'm

37:55

his older sister He's so annoying That's

37:57

it. Oh, yeah. But I said nice things. You can

37:59

watch. my progression throughout the show

38:01

I gain confidence oh I don't the quote

38:04

of the nice quote about you is on

38:06

here no there's a nice quote about you

38:08

but it's just not on here I

38:10

said that it's really nice we already went

38:12

over this to watch you come into

38:14

yourself and I don't like to say it

38:16

anymore I know I went to London you

38:19

did you interviewed Lola Young yeah

38:21

and it was friggin Awesome. I

38:23

can't wait. My new show comes

38:25

out next week. So stay tuned.

38:27

It was awesome. We already have

38:29

so many cool guests lined up.

38:31

It was so fun. London was

38:33

awesome. Peyton almost got stabbed. Terrible,

38:35

but turned out great. She didn't

38:38

get stabbed. London and then knives.

38:40

They just love shifts. They love

38:42

shanking people. But yeah, we need

38:44

to go. BFFs in London. All right.

38:46

I'm down. I think that's everything

38:48

for BFF corner, right. Because

38:50

we talked about Sway. I think

38:52

we hit it all. Oh, but before

38:54

we get into the next portion

38:57

of this, it's a little nausea,

38:59

I just want to say, we

39:01

were in LA and we interviewed

39:03

him in person and I have

39:05

never met someone with such like

39:07

a genuine warm aura. He was

39:09

like the sweetest, most precious person

39:11

and I just like felt safe in

39:13

a room with him and It was

39:15

really fun to interview him. So I

39:17

just, I just want to say I

39:19

really love a little nausea, and I'm

39:22

really excited and proud of him

39:24

for this new era. Yeah, yeah. No, it's

39:26

a good, it's a good pod. You guys

39:28

sent me a clip and I looked

39:30

laborgasted. It's hilarious. But no, I, I

39:33

had fun filming that pod, so enjoy

39:35

it. Yeah, that little nausea we

39:37

go. Are we doing headphones? Oh yeah,

39:39

we always go through this like what what it's

39:41

up to you if you like it better I

39:43

might take I'm gonna take one off. I don't

39:45

love it. You're you're a musician. So maybe you

39:48

know, maybe like I hold it like in a

39:50

cool way Yeah, yeah, yeah It's up to you

39:52

if you want to wear them you totally can

39:54

Okay, yeah, okay. I love it. It feels right.

39:57

No, it looks good too. You look good with

39:59

the headphones on Yeah, I kind of have

40:01

like a headphone vibe, huh? You

40:03

do have a headphone vibe. I

40:05

can see that. All right, we're

40:07

good to go. You good? Yeah,

40:09

are these on? I don't hear

40:11

anything. Whoa, I think it was.

40:14

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40:16

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Mar Flash IV. Let's get into

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it. All right guys, welcome back

41:00

to BFFs. We have a very

41:02

special guest. We have Lilnaz X.

41:04

Is your first podcast. This is

41:06

your first podcast. This is your

41:08

first podcast ever. You're an icon.

41:10

We've been listening to you watching

41:12

you. So we're really excited to have no

41:15

negativity on the show. Oh yeah, we do. Oh

41:17

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, we should

41:19

talk for sure. Yeah, yeah, are you a shit

41:21

talk? Not in, you know, public, but yeah.

41:23

We all should talk a little bit, right?

41:25

Yeah, just a little, but we kind of

41:27

get into it sometimes, but we try

41:30

to play like, devil and angel when

41:32

we talk about things. Yeah. So why do

41:34

you guys call it best friends? Well, because

41:36

the whole. The start of this podcast we

41:38

used to have someone called Dave Portnoy on

41:40

this. You know who Dave is. And the

41:42

dynamic between me and Dave was like, I'm

41:44

a really young kid, he's really old, weird

41:46

matchup, it'd be weird for us to be

41:49

friends. And so we kind of went off

41:51

that and called it BFFs because it's like

41:53

we were the opposite of that. We didn't

41:55

know each other at all. What, 43 and

41:57

you were 19? Yeah, when we started you

41:59

guys get. together. And then Brie joined in

42:01

like four weeks into the start of the

42:03

podcast. It wasn't like, there was something missing

42:05

when we were doing it just me and

42:08

Dave. We needed the female perspective is

42:10

what it was. So then Brie came

42:12

in, podcast flow was way better. And

42:14

he hated her and left. No, no,

42:16

no, no We did the podcast together

42:18

for like four years all of us.

42:20

Yeah, and then he just like this

42:22

year He was like, I'm too old

42:24

to be talking about this young drama

42:26

all the time like a grandpa Yeah,

42:28

that's sad. I know we miss him. Yeah,

42:30

I know we miss him. Yeah, I

42:32

didn't see him on the show, but

42:34

I miss him I know I think

42:37

he misses us too He said the

42:39

last time he came on as like

42:41

a guest kind of coming back coming

42:43

back he was kind of So I

42:45

have a surprise for you. All right,

42:47

come on out. But you have your

42:49

new single coming out. Yeah, yeah, I

42:52

do. It's fire. I listen to it.

42:54

It was amazing. Well, I

42:56

listen to your Instagram

42:58

video. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A

43:00

lot of the comments, it

43:02

was cracking me up. It's

43:04

like, he's finally being gay.

43:06

Like, we're done edging. Like, he's,

43:09

he's finally here. I'm like,

43:11

so excited for it. I

43:13

know it's been a little bit. I

43:15

feel like when you were first introduced

43:18

to the scene, you were like everywhere

43:20

and it was immediate. Like you blew

43:22

up fucking crazy when you first

43:24

stepped out, which was it hard

43:27

like to immediately start and you

43:29

just blow the fuck up? It wasn't

43:31

really. It was definitely, it was

43:33

a lot of fun. It was

43:35

super exciting, but the main problem I

43:37

had was I kind of got everything

43:40

connected and and I got every person

43:42

that was around me from like the

43:44

same period and it was like this

43:46

fast and I didn't have any time

43:48

to settle and pick people like that

43:51

I wanted around me you know what I mean?

43:53

Yeah. So that like gave me the problem of

43:55

being afraid to let people go around

43:57

me even though I'm like okay this

43:59

is random. You know what I mean?

44:01

And that's, you know, that's why I

44:03

kind of took like a really

44:05

awkward pause between like, like here

44:07

and back in like 2021. You

44:09

know what I mean? Yeah. So

44:11

you, I didn't even realize it

44:13

had been that long. Yeah, time

44:15

flies. Yeah, but you know, everything's

44:17

right. I'm ready to, you know, show

44:19

my ass, you were just, you were

44:21

that guy, you still are. But it

44:24

was crazy to just see you kind

44:26

of step away. And I guess that's

44:28

the reason why you just kind of

44:30

had to figure yourself out. You're the

44:32

people you kept around you, like your

44:35

circle. 100. Yeah, but you know, everything's

44:37

right. Good. I'm ready to, you know, show

44:39

my ass, pop, pop my, pop my, But

44:41

Jay-J a little bit. Yes, I want I need

44:44

that like I feel like we need that I

44:46

want to see that for Jay-J popped I'm

44:48

excited for it like you like you

44:50

do you see his little snippet when he's

44:52

in the pink he's you're in the pink

44:54

car you got all the dudes around you're

44:56

popping that as like you're so back

44:59

and even like dream boy like what I

45:01

love about you and I think what makes

45:03

you so different from a lot of

45:05

other artists is you bring like Comedy

45:07

into your art as well like you yeah, I

45:09

was going to say like the level of

45:11

How much freedom does your like PR

45:14

team give you? Because it's got to

45:16

be quite a bit right because like

45:18

it seems like you get free reign

45:20

with the the creative control like you

45:22

put in such a higher level of

45:24

Production value I think into your like

45:26

promotion even if it's like when the

45:28

dream boy is coming down and talking

45:30

to you and like that whole like

45:32

little bit you have going on Do

45:34

you, are you the one coming up

45:36

with everything? Is your team helping you

45:38

out? Are you having to go behind

45:40

the team's back a little bit? Just

45:42

host it? Like, what's that look like?

45:44

I've never had to go behind anyone's

45:46

back. I kind of just do my own

45:48

thing and my team kind of helps me out

45:50

a lot here and there. Like, I'm very much

45:53

in charge of my own storyline and my own

45:55

story and I want to kind of like keep

45:57

it that way. No matter like what's happening.

45:59

days of just like oh I'm not sure

46:02

exactly what to do but I know I

46:04

don't want to do what you want me

46:06

to do so yeah yeah that's awesome it's

46:08

you it's awesome it's it's me it's me

46:10

but I'll never you know it takes a

46:12

village oh for sure yeah for sure and

46:14

like do you ever have like a

46:16

crazy idea because you've done a lot

46:18

of crazy shit and you've said a

46:20

lot of crazy shit like in a good

46:23

way you're just like kind of out of

46:25

out of pocket which is why I think

46:27

people are you can't do this

46:29

for certain and i cannot say

46:31

it on here because you understand

46:34

why they didn't want me to

46:36

do it but yeah yeah yeah

46:38

i've had some ideas that would

46:40

maybe like too far but i'm

46:43

i'm pretty much done with that

46:45

era of forced i don't know

46:47

kind of like forcing things

46:49

to happen yeah i just want

46:52

to like naturally do it

46:54

put my music out have

46:56

fun do my Yeah, so

47:00

I got

47:03

to this

47:07

place

47:09

and

47:12

I'm

47:14

just

47:17

like, okay, I'm

47:20

not... I'm not

47:22

doing this anymore.

47:25

I know I

47:27

can make this

47:30

work in other ways. And yeah, so

47:32

here we are. Yeah, because essentially,

47:34

like, he didn't need all the

47:37

crazies. You have bangers. Like, there

47:39

was a lot of crazy shit

47:41

surrounding it. But I like

47:44

to have fun. Yeah. And that's the

47:46

thing. A lot of people see my

47:48

fun as, I don't know, like,

47:50

too much description, but

47:52

that's what art is, you know

47:54

what I mean? Ultimately, you

47:56

know, you do your thing. Yeah, do your thing.

47:58

Yeah, shit you want to do. And it like

48:01

separates you from everyone else

48:03

in your category. 100% and

48:05

you know that's that's a goal

48:07

you know you want to be yourself

48:09

as much as you can yeah no

48:11

matter how hard that is sometimes. Yeah

48:13

because when you first started I don't

48:16

think you were like 100% I don't

48:18

know stepping into your sexuality and then

48:20

like you did definitely know what

48:22

was that like was that really scary for you

48:25

or were you just or how did that come

48:27

about we were like I'm gonna own it I'm

48:29

gonna like be who I really am I think

48:31

even more gradually over time even to this day

48:34

I'm still just like okay now I can like

48:36

kind of be even more myself now kind

48:38

of let loose a little bit more and

48:40

it was like gradual over time because I've

48:43

like I'm like this boy who was

48:45

17 and like my parents like

48:47

basement and didn't really have like

48:49

much of a social life. Yeah,

48:51

holy shit didn't have much of

48:54

a social life and then it's

48:56

like boom it's like now and

48:58

everyone in the world knows me

49:00

and it's like okay let's kind

49:02

of keep it together and it's

49:05

like I don't know it's like you're

49:07

holding a bunch of like coins

49:09

in your arms or something right

49:11

yeah And that's my personality, you

49:13

know what I mean? Like my

49:16

personality, and then I'm like, you know what,

49:18

fuck it, I'm me, like, you're gonna fuck

49:20

with me or you're not, you know what

49:22

I mean? Yeah, for sure. Seven, like, so

49:24

how the fuck did you start? How did

49:26

you go from 17 in your parents' basement

49:28

to this like phenomenon? Like, well, how did

49:30

that happen? It actually started

49:32

because. of procrastination actually. So procrastination

49:35

is good. Procrastination can lead you

49:37

to some good places. So I

49:39

was supposed to be taking my

49:42

class in college because I had

49:44

got a C in math and

49:46

I was a computer science major. You

49:48

cannot get a C. A computer is

49:51

okay smart. But the thing is, I

49:53

thought I was going to be able

49:55

to catch up with it, but in

49:57

college you only get so many assignments.

50:00

to get this up. So I

50:02

was supposed to be taking that

50:04

class and boom. I get on

50:06

YouTube. I'm like, oh, I'm bored.

50:08

Let's make a song. And then

50:10

I was like, okay, I want

50:13

to put this on Twitter. And

50:15

people were liking this song. And

50:17

then boom, four songs later. I'm

50:19

really into it. I'm just like,

50:21

you know what, I fucking love this.

50:23

This is what I want to

50:25

do with Old Town Road. Yeah,

50:28

yeah, okay, like number 13, Taylor

50:30

Swift was right. She's always right.

50:32

So what does that look like though?

50:34

You just got a call from Hollywood,

50:36

like, okay. Yeah, Billy Rice Iris? Yeah,

50:38

like, what the fuck? It's me, it

50:41

was me like posting my song in

50:43

like a bunch of memes and stuff

50:45

over and then getting like friends to

50:47

like join in. And I was also

50:50

just like really on top of like

50:52

the the the meme shit on like

50:54

social media and stuff and then Boom,

50:57

Tiktok, start to like bumble and then

50:59

this becomes like this phenomenon on there

51:01

and then it's like Twitter, Tiktok,

51:03

then it's like boom, the world and

51:05

then getting calls from every label in

51:08

the same week. Yeah, because I feel

51:10

like you really were in the middle of

51:12

this like perfect storm where like

51:14

COVID was going on, Tiktok was

51:17

becoming massive and then, because you

51:19

were one of the first people that I

51:21

think. had their music go so viral

51:23

on Tiktok to a point where it was

51:25

like yeah right because there was like a

51:27

couple people but you really I think also

51:29

used that like there was the Arizona song

51:32

or guy as well that had something blow

51:34

up but like I don't think he capitalized

51:36

on it the same way you hey hey

51:38

That's my brother. The negative, not in a

51:40

negative way. Just look at the statistics, you

51:43

know what I'm saying? Like you were able

51:45

to go on and like continue to capitalize

51:47

on this and I think to your point,

51:49

you understood the meme of occasion of it

51:51

all, right? Like you were able to go and

51:53

take that song, put it into so many different

51:56

places on Tik, that starts blowing up and

51:58

trending on there as Tik Talk is. starting

52:00

to trend, it's this like perfect storm

52:02

where you were just able to ride

52:05

that, which was pretty crazy to see.

52:07

You actually knew how to work social

52:09

media. I feel like a lot of

52:11

artists, like, they hire teams to like

52:13

come in and run their socials, but

52:15

you just like, you like Twitter, you're

52:17

funny, you are, like, you knew what

52:19

you were doing, which is cool. And

52:21

then Billy Ray Cyrus, what the fuck?

52:23

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that's enough, old

52:26

town roll talk. Let's move on. Let's

52:28

move to like the drugs and stuff.

52:30

You want to ask me if I'm

52:32

on drugs or something? Yeah, sure, you

52:34

want drugs? No, not all right.

52:36

All right, all right. Well, okay,

52:39

so these are the things that

52:41

we talked about on BFFs before

52:43

with you. So we had like

52:45

old headlines. This one was crazy.

52:47

The LilazX has been more vocal

52:50

about his history with the

52:52

BT. after receiving no nominations,

52:54

which is fucking crazy, after

52:56

having some of the biggest

52:58

songs of the year. So

53:00

you tweeted, thank you, BT

53:02

Awards, and outstanding zero nominations

53:04

again, Black Excellence. What was

53:06

this like? Talk us through it. Jesus. Well,

53:08

honestly, I'll be honest. I think I crashed

53:10

out of it right there. I think, I

53:12

think genuinely, I should have just been grateful

53:15

for all this shit that was already happening

53:17

in my life. And like, let that passed

53:19

through, but I... It was like a moment

53:21

of I'm sick of this, you know what I mean? I

53:24

guess because it's like, you know, we all say like, oh, I don't

53:26

need to be accepted by everybody, but no, I

53:28

do want to like be accepted, especially like within

53:30

like my own community, you know, so I feel

53:32

like going there performing a song, like for the

53:34

first time, like, that was the first place I

53:37

performed, like call me by your name, you know, and I

53:39

don't know, like, like, like, like it would give me, like,

53:41

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

53:43

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

53:45

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

53:47

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, So it

53:49

definitely like hurt a bit

53:52

and you know I'm I'm usually like a

53:54

ha ha I don't give a fuck

53:56

yeah, but but yeah, and that made

53:58

me like Say something about it so

54:00

yeah I mean I if I were in your

54:02

shoes I probably say crazier shit like I

54:04

don't know having that like pressure on you

54:06

what that would feel like and then to

54:09

feel not like snubs but in like you

54:11

said like that's your community you performed and

54:13

you're like actually having some of the biggest

54:15

hits I could see that's a valid crash

54:17

out yeah it's definitely like I don't I

54:19

don't regret it but it's like where I

54:21

am right now I wouldn't do it I

54:23

wouldn't do it I just be like you

54:25

know what it is what it is what

54:27

it I'm not dead, it's not going to

54:29

kill me, there's more opportunities elsewhere, go where you

54:32

love, you know what I mean? It must

54:34

have felt good though to see a friend

54:36

rock the, Jack, the shirt there, like, what's

54:38

that friendship with Jack like? Me and Jack,

54:41

we're kind of just like, very like

54:43

cordial, like we hate each other up

54:45

every now and then. I really love

54:47

like what he's doing, like I love

54:49

the new songs he's putting out and

54:51

whatnot and I like, I like how

54:53

he carries how he carries himself. and

54:55

like how he treats his private life

54:57

you know I mean yeah I'm just

54:59

like let me edge into these into

55:02

that a little bit more they don't

55:04

need to know everything about me yeah

55:06

well when you come up so fast

55:08

I feel like you kind of want

55:10

to be in everyone's faces and you

55:13

didn't really know how to I wouldn't know

55:15

how to I would know how to

55:17

treat it so you say everything

55:19

you do everything and you make

55:21

everything public yeah but then you

55:23

find out that's never gonna be

55:25

a thing. There's always gonna

55:28

be people that don't like

55:30

you, that talk shit. And

55:32

then it's like, okay, maybe I

55:34

do need to be private. Maybe this

55:36

is why all these celebrities don't

55:39

say where they are, what they're

55:41

doing. It's like a double-edged sword.

55:43

Yeah, I think that's what these

55:46

last, like, few years. And it's

55:48

not like, Let's do things alone,

55:51

you know what I mean? Let's

55:53

go to the movies alone. Let's

55:55

go to get some food alone.

55:58

Let's let's really like practice. self-love

56:00

and making sure when we step

56:02

back out there, we're stepping back

56:05

out there for us and not for

56:07

the external validation of it all. You

56:09

know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like

56:11

as a performer, because sometimes we go

56:13

through it too, you just, your job

56:16

is... people looking at you and like

56:18

ingesting you and you want to almost

56:20

do everything for them. It's like you

56:22

want to do it for the viewer

56:24

and then it kind of gives you

56:26

like a warped perception of yourself. So

56:28

I think that's really important for you

56:31

to do that and want to do

56:33

things for you and it will show in

56:35

your art. It has already. Yeah. Because

56:37

now you're like full, like you're

56:39

you. It's like, you're coming on

56:42

more as yourself now when you're

56:44

doing those videos, when you're

56:46

doing those music. I mean,

56:48

when you're popping that push. It's

56:50

like, what do you want it to

56:53

do? This is him. Like, it's really

56:55

cool to watch. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I

56:57

really hope the world sees it. And

56:59

understands, you know that. I

57:01

really come from a genuine

57:03

place. There's no ulterior motives

57:06

or anything. Yeah. I think you can feel

57:08

that. I mean, your energy just is...

57:10

I feel like you're just like a

57:12

warm hug. It's good. Energy is just

57:14

good. It's like, it's really nice. It's

57:17

refreshing because you meet a lot

57:19

of people in this industry and

57:21

you're like, oh, you're a little

57:23

scary. And it's funny because people,

57:25

when you went through the phase

57:27

where people were like, little nods,

57:29

it's the devil, he satanic, and

57:32

it's like, it's the opposite. Yeah,

57:34

yeah, yeah, yeah, meeting you know,

57:36

it's, it's completely different. It's just

57:38

a part of. I think so many people's

57:40

careers as you watch them transition into

57:42

different versions of themselves as they come more

57:44

into themselves like we continue to say on this

57:47

like you grow up online people are going to

57:49

see change and they got to realize that I

57:51

feel like sometimes people don't realize how young the

57:53

artists are that they follow or how like new

57:55

to the space or the environment that they are

57:58

and they want to like judge them on. on

58:00

that one action or a couple actions

58:02

right when they're beginning. You gotta let

58:04

people evolve. Or else, what is the

58:06

point of any of this, right? Isn't

58:08

that what we're all trying to do

58:10

is evolve and become better people and

58:12

learn who we are and be happy

58:14

in this world? One million percent.

58:17

Yeah. I definitely get it too though,

58:19

you know. Like a lot of people's like

58:21

perception of me. It's based off of the things

58:23

they know me for the most. It would

58:25

be fair. Yeah, and that's what a lot

58:28

of people know me for and I can't

58:30

like be like, oh no, why do they

58:32

know me for this? Because I did those

58:34

things. I don't regret doing those things just

58:36

so there's no confusion. I did what I

58:38

did. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's what we always

58:41

say. It's like. We're the ones

58:43

that opened ourselves up to

58:45

it, right? We post ourselves

58:47

online. We got to be able to

58:49

take it if we're going to

58:52

give it, right? Like, you got

58:54

to get that's the biggest thing.

58:56

You knew what it was going

58:58

to happen. Yeah, you also just

59:00

got to like focus on the

59:02

good. I mean, like, there's a

59:04

lot of like focus on the

59:06

good. I mean, like, there's a lot

59:08

of people, like, you know, really like,

59:11

like, like, In person, it's just all it's all

59:13

nice. Sometimes it's those exact same people that will be

59:15

talking shit about you. I know. It's like, well, they

59:17

jump on like the popular, whatever the bandwagon is, it's

59:19

like, it's like, it's mob mentality. So it's like,

59:21

oh, if everyone's agreeing with this or saying something

59:23

about this, I want to hop on it. I

59:25

want to be a part of the popular thing.

59:28

100. And it's way cooler when people have their

59:30

own opinion, and they're like, have their own opinion,

59:32

and they're like, actually, actually, actually, actually, actually, critically,

59:34

critically, critically, critically, actually, critically, critically, critically

59:36

thinking, so, I hated when you

59:38

were going through all of that shit

59:41

because I just think you're so cool.

59:43

Thank you. You're welcome. I appreciate that.

59:45

Yeah, I think it was for the

59:47

best though. It really helped me look

59:49

inward. So, hey. Yeah, what was that

59:52

time like, like, when all of it

59:54

was like the satanic shit or like

59:56

little nause, the devil shit, what was

59:58

that time like for you? Like just

1:00:00

as a person behind closed

1:00:02

doors. I guess I mean to

1:00:05

be honest I mean if we're

1:00:07

talking about the very like beginning

1:00:09

of it like yeah like during

1:00:12

like the call me by a

1:00:14

name error it was it was

1:00:16

kind of fine because it was

1:00:18

I was able to distract myself

1:00:21

with all the other stuff that

1:00:23

was all the good shit that

1:00:25

was happening. You know at at

1:00:27

um With opposites of all the hate

1:00:29

that's coming, you know, I mean, yeah, so yeah,

1:00:32

those songs were huge like call me by

1:00:34

your name was huge Yeah, and you know,

1:00:36

it was just like I was also just

1:00:38

like focused on my album and stuff I'm

1:00:40

just like okay, let's keep moving. Let's put

1:00:42

this next song out Yeah, I feel like it really

1:00:44

hit more like last year, you know, because it

1:00:46

was just like a kind of like a kind

1:00:49

of like down period and I was kind of

1:00:51

like changing teams and my life

1:00:53

was completely being moved around and

1:00:56

stuff. So I like had like

1:00:58

a lot of time like thinking

1:01:00

I was like, damn, am I a

1:01:02

bad person? Should I have not

1:01:05

done that? You know what I mean?

1:01:07

Yeah. And I'm just like, Montero,

1:01:09

relax. It is what it is.

1:01:11

Yeah. Well, it's when you have

1:01:13

that, because you were moving so

1:01:15

fast and once you finally get

1:01:17

downtime to like reflect. Then you're

1:01:19

like sitting with... Yeah, you're like, wait,

1:01:21

like, fuck, did I fuck up? But

1:01:23

then again, it's just the, like, it's

1:01:25

the shit cycle of like, reminding yourself

1:01:27

of what people said, the bad shit,

1:01:29

the negative. So then you're like, do

1:01:31

I think that or am I just

1:01:34

feeding into it? 100. Yeah, it's shitty.

1:01:36

But I mean, Fuck it now you have

1:01:38

a cool fun song coming out and it's

1:01:40

like what I feel like this is the

1:01:42

new era It's a whole new era for

1:01:44

you. Excited and it's going to be so

1:01:46

amazing. You can feel it none of the

1:01:48

hate is going to get my attention. No,

1:01:50

no, no, no. Do you do you think like

1:01:52

there will be hate with this new era for

1:01:54

you or do you just like kind of

1:01:56

you think so? I think hate comes with

1:01:59

anything happening. successful or

1:02:01

anything good that's happening.

1:02:03

You could, there's, people hated Martin

1:02:05

Luther King, you know what I

1:02:08

mean? People hate, um... I

1:02:10

don't know, Gondi or who else

1:02:12

is like, consider good. I don't

1:02:14

hate Gondi, I never say that.

1:02:17

Mother Teresa, maybe. Mother Teresa, you

1:02:19

hit her? No, no, no, no,

1:02:22

it's just worse. Oh my God.

1:02:24

I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking.

1:02:26

I love her, I love everybody.

1:02:29

You do not love everybody. I

1:02:31

don't, I hate so many people.

1:02:33

But I like, I love Mother

1:02:36

Teresa, obviously. But that's true. with

1:02:38

this new song was there any inspiration or

1:02:40

like who who were you like taking I

1:02:42

don't know not notes from but who are

1:02:44

you looking to in like this space right

1:02:47

now that you kind of like really admire

1:02:49

I think I think a lot of this

1:02:51

new era is inspired by a lot of

1:02:53

the things that I grew up on like

1:02:56

back in Atlanta like the southern like rap

1:02:58

music and also like back when I was

1:03:00

a kid when I watched like uh Disney

1:03:02

and stuff I was talking about earlier like

1:03:05

um Just like the fun of all of

1:03:07

that, you know what I mean? I guess

1:03:09

you'll see that more once you see more

1:03:12

of the rollout and stuff. But also just

1:03:14

like Nikki Minaj who who I actually like

1:03:16

had a fan account and stuff for.

1:03:18

Yeah, I had a Justin Bieber

1:03:20

fan account. Yeah. Yeah, and you know,

1:03:23

like it's very much inspired by my

1:03:25

childhood and you know, like my younger

1:03:27

life. I really want to let my

1:03:29

inner child like shine this era and

1:03:32

I don't want any, um. I don't

1:03:34

want like any thing that feels

1:03:36

negative for me, you know what

1:03:38

I mean? So yeah, it's bright.

1:03:41

It's colorful. It's pop. It's love.

1:03:43

That's that's that's that's what I

1:03:45

want. That's what I really want to

1:03:47

do for this time around. Love love

1:03:49

love love love love love love love

1:03:52

love. Yeah, I love that you said

1:03:54

pop the pop girlies are on top

1:03:56

like pop is so back. Do you

1:03:58

like pop is like pop? pop is so

1:04:00

bad like she's fresh and she's in so

1:04:02

many different areas I know it's everywhere it's

1:04:04

always like coming through country it's coming through

1:04:07

every single thing is it's pop now and

1:04:09

I was a hater I was a pop

1:04:11

hater and now I'm like it's all I

1:04:13

listen to who you're listening to it I'm

1:04:15

like right now I'm really really obsessed with

1:04:18

lowly young like she's one of my

1:04:20

I just love her entire aura. Everything

1:04:22

about her. She's so dope. Like she

1:04:24

reminds me of you in a

1:04:26

sense of like 100% she's just

1:04:28

her. She's so her. She doesn't

1:04:30

give a fuck. Unapologetically. Unapologetically, like

1:04:32

the way she dresses, the

1:04:34

way she talks, her makeup,

1:04:37

her music. Yes. I like

1:04:39

her performances videos on Instagram

1:04:41

and stuff. Yeah. I love her. I think

1:04:43

like she is just so cool. So

1:04:45

she's my favorite pop girl. So she's

1:04:47

my favorite pop girl. At the moment.

1:04:50

At the moment? Yeah. Well, don't

1:04:52

you even though she's like rat, but

1:04:54

she's kind of taken over like the

1:04:56

pop space? Yeah. I'm really happy to

1:04:58

see her shine, you know what I

1:05:00

mean? I've been watching her like do

1:05:02

her thing for a long time and

1:05:05

kind of like bubble under and it's

1:05:07

like now she's like being

1:05:09

embraced by the world and it's

1:05:11

like really, really amazing to see,

1:05:13

you know, this, this our dark skin

1:05:15

woman who who like wraps and

1:05:17

so like true to her

1:05:20

craft. Being all over the

1:05:22

world, you know what I mean?

1:05:24

Like, glabbing with K-pop artists. Yeah,

1:05:27

I know, crazy. And she's been

1:05:29

doing it forever, too. There's videos

1:05:31

she was posting five, six years

1:05:34

ago, like in her bedroom, freesty,

1:05:36

right? Like, so this has been,

1:05:39

she's been going for so long,

1:05:41

and now that she's finally getting

1:05:43

the moment, it's great. Yeah.

1:05:46

It's beautiful, it's inspiring for a

1:05:48

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and you met them and they've like really

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into start them or just like someone you've

1:06:57

met that you idolize and you're like oh

1:06:59

shit. That was cool. Who's actually I've met

1:07:02

a lot of people but I don't think I

1:07:04

don't think many people like helped me.

1:07:06

Yeah. Yeah, I don't I don't think

1:07:08

so. I don't know but maybe that's

1:07:10

just a lot how the music industry

1:07:12

is Yeah, I mean I try to

1:07:14

make sure I can do that for

1:07:16

certain people like um friends and stuff

1:07:18

who are getting into music and

1:07:20

stuff I try to do that but Yeah,

1:07:22

I don't think I was I don't think

1:07:24

I had that and that's fine, you know,

1:07:27

you know, yeah, so would you say it's

1:07:29

a like an intimidating space or a really

1:07:31

competitive space where you think

1:07:33

maybe people want to help you?

1:07:36

the people on the people on top

1:07:38

work with the people on top people

1:07:40

like in the middle and order people

1:07:42

in the middle and and the people

1:07:44

on top everybody was working with everybody

1:07:46

that's like winning and like doing their thing

1:07:49

and you know I guess I get it you

1:07:51

know it's not it's nothing wrong with that um

1:07:53

you should do what you want to what you

1:07:55

feel is best for your career at the end

1:07:57

of the day yeah but I mean overall I

1:07:59

still think it's very everybody still in their

1:08:01

own space you know yeah it's like sub

1:08:03

sub sub sub I'm over here you over there

1:08:05

you over there you over there it's not

1:08:07

like not everybody's like holding hands

1:08:09

and going to like the secret

1:08:11

meetings together except like Oscar parties

1:08:13

and shit where everybody links up

1:08:15

yeah yeah everyone's kind of just

1:08:18

doing their own thing yeah did

1:08:20

you help Doja perfect the meow on

1:08:22

the carpet or did she help you with

1:08:24

the meow on the carpet who was helping

1:08:26

who with that Doha, I mean, she's meant

1:08:28

for me, Ow, and the cat, the last

1:08:30

thing is cat, like, yeah, yeah. It wasn't

1:08:32

a competition. I couldn't I couldn't

1:08:34

was that a joke that you

1:08:36

guys talked about Beforehand like yeah,

1:08:38

we got to do this on

1:08:41

the car No, I was like

1:08:43

a dare a lost bed. She

1:08:45

was going to show up as

1:08:47

a cat right when I I

1:08:49

was I think I was on

1:08:52

the way there and I was

1:08:54

like on Instagram or

1:08:56

something and I saw her as

1:08:58

a cat I was like no

1:09:00

fucking It was something else. It

1:09:02

was something else at first. And

1:09:05

I was like, ah, I hate this.

1:09:07

The picture of it is so like

1:09:09

you were head to toe. Don't show

1:09:11

me that. You don't you don't like

1:09:13

the outfit? You did it? No, I

1:09:15

love it, but I don't want to

1:09:17

see it in front of you. We'll

1:09:19

just look at it. It's a race

1:09:21

for my mind. It's a race for

1:09:23

my mind. So that was two days

1:09:25

out. I have to tell your story

1:09:28

about that. Okay. I remember going

1:09:30

inside of the Met, because that was

1:09:32

the met. I went inside the met, and

1:09:34

I saw a bad bunny, I was like,

1:09:36

yo, nice to meet you, bad bunny, I

1:09:38

said finally meet you. And then, you know,

1:09:40

we talked for like a few minutes or

1:09:42

so, and then, I don't know, bad bunny's

1:09:44

are, well, I'm not gonna spill his business,

1:09:46

but it was nothing crazy, by the way,

1:09:48

just. So I walked away and I could

1:09:50

never get the picture out of my

1:09:52

head that I was walking away and

1:09:55

like bad bunnies like sin my like

1:09:57

bare ass like covered in like chrome

1:09:59

pink. I like literally woke up in

1:10:01

the middle of the night thinking about

1:10:03

it. He probably woke up in the

1:10:06

middle of the night thinking about it

1:10:08

as well. Probably a hundred both of

1:10:10

you. Was that your first Matt Gella?

1:10:12

That was the second one. That was

1:10:15

the second one. That was the second

1:10:17

one. What was it like to get? Invited

1:10:19

to the Met gala for the first time.

1:10:21

It was sick. I was wondering what they're

1:10:23

gonna do. I was like, is this what

1:10:25

we're gonna like drink the baby blood or

1:10:28

something? It's just the actual thing that happens

1:10:30

there? But yeah, it was really, it was

1:10:32

really dope though. I never expected to get to

1:10:34

such a spot like that so fast,

1:10:36

you know what I mean? It was

1:10:38

like overnight I feel, you were just

1:10:40

like at the Met gala. Yeah, I

1:10:42

was just like, oh, doing the doing

1:10:44

the met. Again, this is fucking cool.

1:10:46

And I'm naked for some reason. And

1:10:49

I'm me, I'm only me. And only

1:10:51

me, I went, I thought they would

1:10:53

never invite me out to that again.

1:10:55

I was, I was like, yeah, they're

1:10:57

not, I'm like, I'm not getting

1:10:59

here next year. But, you were,

1:11:01

lo and behold. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:11:03

think that's like what the Met

1:11:06

is is to get those like

1:11:08

insane moments out of like, he

1:11:10

was a cat one year. it's like

1:11:12

it's there for those moments and when

1:11:14

you were just meowing into a microphone

1:11:16

it's fucking awesome so did you plan

1:11:19

that like in the moment too yeah I

1:11:21

think that was more in a moment I

1:11:23

mean I'm very obsessed with spectacle

1:11:25

still you know I mean yeah I like

1:11:27

things that they make people go hmm you

1:11:29

know I mean or it's like some some

1:11:31

reaction you know like oh this makes me

1:11:33

feel this thing this make me feel that

1:11:35

thing oh that doesn't usually happen here this

1:11:37

doesn't go there you know I mean I mean so

1:11:39

yeah yeah yeah That was awesome. I love the look

1:11:41

at it. You gotta like making people say

1:11:43

what the fuck. It's always funny. Yeah,

1:11:45

I mean and then people talk about you

1:11:47

whether it's good or bad. It's just it's

1:11:49

cool. It's kind of the point. It's gonna

1:11:52

have fun. It's a space. Yeah. You got

1:11:54

to have fun. And like you said back

1:11:56

to you saying like being disruptive. It's like

1:11:58

it's part of your art. So yeah. to do,

1:12:00

I don't know what's going to make

1:12:02

people entertained, I guess, you know, also stuff

1:12:04

that you want to do. I wanted to

1:12:07

do that. I wanted to do that mainly

1:12:09

because I was like in this era of

1:12:11

like like that like that whole like

1:12:13

2023, 2022, I was like, okay, I

1:12:15

want to do things that I'm going

1:12:17

to feel scared to do and feel

1:12:19

embarrassed about and I want to go

1:12:21

through with it anyway because I want

1:12:23

to like train myself to be okay

1:12:25

in embarrassing anxiety written like situations and

1:12:27

it's helped me a lot yeah you

1:12:30

know that's so yeah hard to do

1:12:32

and we were talking a little bit

1:12:34

before like we started podcasting we're

1:12:36

talking about like you have a

1:12:38

lot of anxiety and you're just

1:12:40

like pushing yourself to be basically

1:12:42

giving yourself more anxiety but it's

1:12:44

helping you're saying but that's the thing

1:12:47

though I feel like my anxiety has

1:12:49

decreased so much over the past year

1:12:51

like it takes time to like get

1:12:53

over the hump but I feel like you know

1:12:55

far more more far along than I was

1:12:57

before you know I mean yeah like

1:12:59

even just like right now I wasn't

1:13:01

able to like talking interviews like freely

1:13:03

as Before I guess I was just

1:13:05

like I don't want to slip up

1:13:07

and say like the wrong shit, but now

1:13:10

I'm just like hey if I do I'll be

1:13:12

fine I'll figure it out I mean I've been

1:13:14

through worse it you know what I mean

1:13:16

yeah for sure yeah what you're doing a

1:13:18

great job so far talking well talking well

1:13:20

I know it's great that so you

1:13:23

would say just like pushing yourself into

1:13:25

maybe like anxiety written situations has helped

1:13:27

you like get over those humps because

1:13:30

I think a lot of people struggle

1:13:32

with anxiety and to hear like someone

1:13:34

of your stature also struggled with it

1:13:36

like you can help a lot of people.

1:13:39

Yeah I think I think it's very important

1:13:41

to do but also still give yourself space

1:13:43

when it feels like this way too much

1:13:45

yeah like back the fuck up and go

1:13:47

and sit down and and breathe but I

1:13:49

do a lot of like talking to myself

1:13:51

like actually like talking to myself out loud

1:13:54

and say, okay, what is wrong? Why do you

1:13:56

feel this way? Who are you afraid to be

1:13:58

embarrassed in front of right now? What are

1:14:00

you so shy about right now? And then

1:14:02

it's like, you gotta come back to

1:14:04

the idea that we're all like shy, we

1:14:07

all get embarrassed, we all

1:14:09

get self-conscious, the prettiest people,

1:14:11

the most talented people, the

1:14:13

most, you know, star athletes,

1:14:15

the most like bragadochet type

1:14:17

of people, everybody. It's impossible.

1:14:19

And I'm not saying that,

1:14:21

oh, my anxiety's gone, I'm

1:14:23

free. You know, I still

1:14:25

get fucking anxiety, but I

1:14:27

just, I know how to handle it better.

1:14:29

I need to try that like talking out

1:14:31

loud because it almost makes you feel

1:14:33

like silly it's like why who are

1:14:35

you afraid to be embarrassed of right now

1:14:38

like I feel like it's really you talking

1:14:40

to like your inner child you know what

1:14:42

I mean because it's like a lot of

1:14:44

the stuff you're afraid of all the stuff

1:14:46

like stems from your childhood so it's like

1:14:49

hey little me what what are you afraid

1:14:51

of right now what makes you shy about

1:14:53

this thing you know even with that you

1:14:55

said you saw you saw you know I mean for

1:14:57

a minute I was scared to be more

1:14:59

like flamboyant and stuff and it's

1:15:01

like oh because I don't want

1:15:04

to feel like embarrassed in front

1:15:06

of this group of people and

1:15:08

that and it's like so I don't

1:15:10

I don't care anymore. It's like, I'm

1:15:12

like, you're okay to do it. I

1:15:15

give myself, I literally go in the

1:15:17

mirror, I'm like, I give you permission

1:15:19

to do it. I give you

1:15:21

permission to look and be embarrassed

1:15:24

about that thing. Just go through

1:15:26

with it. Yeah. That's something that

1:15:28

I always think of too. Like,

1:15:30

when we're children, when we're kids,

1:15:32

we're like so fearless, we're not

1:15:34

afraid of anything. We're everything that

1:15:36

we want to be. of it

1:15:38

I'm a kid again I can

1:15:40

do it all I'm not scared

1:15:42

so fuck yeah that's that's good

1:15:45

advice yeah yeah that's really good

1:15:47

advice thank you thank you so with the

1:15:49

new song coming out is there anything

1:15:51

you want people to know about

1:15:53

it like anything that went on

1:15:56

behind scenes or like oh my god

1:15:58

yeah actually so this is like It's

1:16:00

just the hardest thing to do for the

1:16:02

reason, because these last few years have been

1:16:04

really tough for me, like trying to figure

1:16:07

out, okay, like what the fuck do I

1:16:09

do here? Where am I going? Who are

1:16:11

my people? What do I want around me?

1:16:13

And I had like really like I fell

1:16:16

into like this relationship and I was like

1:16:18

in this really great relationship and I felt

1:16:20

like you know this is everything I am

1:16:22

so in love and I still love the

1:16:24

person. And then you know I realized that

1:16:27

it was at a place where this person

1:16:29

kind of like also was feeling the void

1:16:31

of the external validation I was usually getting

1:16:33

from. the world and once we like broke

1:16:36

up it was like really hard and I

1:16:38

literally almost missed the video shoot I skipped

1:16:40

the plane I wasn't gonna go for the

1:16:42

single yeah for the song and the video

1:16:44

I fucking love it is fucking tea I

1:16:47

know the world's gonna love it um but

1:16:49

it was gonna love it um but it

1:16:51

was gonna be I wasn't gonna be there

1:16:53

because it was shot into completely different country

1:16:56

and because I like spent like like four

1:16:58

days at home like crying it balling my

1:17:00

eyes out and just trying to get myself

1:17:02

together and I'm just like you know what

1:17:04

I know it's been really hard and I

1:17:07

know you want to give up. Let's just

1:17:09

go and whatever happens happens. And so I

1:17:11

went there and I got there and shot

1:17:13

the video and things have been pretty much

1:17:16

on and up since then, you know what

1:17:18

I mean? It was like that darkest hour

1:17:20

before Don kind of moment, you know what

1:17:22

I mean? Yeah. Oh shit, well I'm sorry

1:17:24

I went through that. Yeah. Could you imagine

1:17:27

taking every other 20 minutes to go and

1:17:29

cry in the bathroom doing a video shoot?

1:17:31

Everybody's like, everybody's like, can we finish? You're

1:17:33

like, oh can I just, I just need

1:17:36

a cry break for a lie? Were you

1:17:38

telling them that you were going for a

1:17:40

cry or was it just a lot of

1:17:42

bathroom? I was like, oh no, just too

1:17:44

much water in my face. Just drink a

1:17:47

lot of water on the plane. December December

1:17:49

okay, so like how long did it kind

1:17:51

of take you to get out of that

1:17:53

hole of like the breakup and coming into

1:17:56

yourself and it took It took me I

1:17:58

feel like it took a few weeks and

1:18:00

it was also kind of like I was

1:18:02

still like contacting the person for a minute

1:18:05

And then you know, I was like, okay,

1:18:07

we just need to like not talk at

1:18:09

all because no contact. Yeah, that makes all

1:18:11

the sense. Yeah, it makes all the sense

1:18:13

in the world. So hard to do no

1:18:16

contact though. But if you don't do it,

1:18:18

it's just drawing the situation now. And now

1:18:20

you experience like a little less pain, but

1:18:22

just for a lot longer. And then the

1:18:25

big pain still going to come at the

1:18:27

end. You just you're just delaying. You can't

1:18:29

get rid of it. It's like, but I

1:18:31

need to talk to you. I know, rip

1:18:33

the band-aid off kind of theory, you know?

1:18:36

You're right, but it's hard. But I was

1:18:38

also kind of my first time, I actually

1:18:40

completely went through with that. It's like, okay,

1:18:42

I'm not checking the Instagram. I'm not going

1:18:45

through the old pictures. I'm focusing on what's

1:18:47

my music, I'm focusing on my magic, on

1:18:49

myself, and healing like my inner child. Because

1:18:51

I've like... The worst of it is kind

1:18:53

of like ego, you know and feeling like

1:18:56

damn Oh, why me you know, I mean

1:18:58

then it's kind of like hey if that

1:19:00

happened to you, maybe there's something better on

1:19:02

the way for you, you know, because it's

1:19:05

happened to me multiple times in life It

1:19:07

was like oh, I'm fucking up in college.

1:19:09

Oh, here's fucking music and it's like, um,

1:19:11

okay, I came out the closet. And I'm

1:19:13

not sure what to do well, let's put

1:19:16

it into the music. You know it's like

1:19:18

continuously like continuously like Trying to make the

1:19:20

best out of a situation that now looks

1:19:22

grim Yeah, well, it's like stepping stones Sometimes

1:19:25

it really is and it depends on how

1:19:27

you look at it Like you could have

1:19:29

been like I'm not doing the video shoot.

1:19:31

I'm gonna cry. I'm a bitch. I'm my

1:19:33

heart broken But all those things are true,

1:19:36

but I'm still doing the video do it

1:19:38

and I want to cry while I do

1:19:40

it but I want to do it but

1:19:42

I want to cry while I do it

1:19:45

a lot I'm gonna cry a lot but

1:19:47

you still fucking did it so that's that's

1:19:49

all that matters one million percent can you

1:19:51

tell us a little about the music video

1:19:53

no I'm gonna see it you're gonna say

1:19:56

it I'm excited I'm like I want to

1:19:58

see it now so do we have like

1:20:00

a lot more music coming out or we

1:20:02

just focusing on the single to help them

1:20:05

so I barely really see any music the

1:20:07

past few years like a few singles here

1:20:09

and I've been stocking up and loaded up

1:20:11

and I'm about to fucking brrrrrrrrl let it

1:20:14

fly. You're letting it rip, Tommy gun on

1:20:16

our ass. Oh fun, fun, I'm excited too.

1:20:18

It's been really cool to like, I don't

1:20:20

know, you've been gone and it's like you're

1:20:22

dangling in front of us, you're back. It's

1:20:25

like there he is, oh my gosh. This

1:20:27

is like my first like my first like

1:20:29

kind of like kind of like kind of

1:20:31

like kind of like kind of like kind

1:20:34

of like kind of like... interview maybe in

1:20:36

a very long time. Yeah, 100%. Thanks. And

1:20:38

it feels like very new and that's why

1:20:40

I really wanted to do it. So thank

1:20:42

you guys for having me also by the

1:20:45

way. Yeah, I mean we're so excited to

1:20:47

have you. We want to have like more

1:20:49

musical. We kind of like before we were

1:20:51

sticking to like before we were sticking to

1:20:54

like the internet drama shit and we were

1:20:56

like really like we talked in the beginning.

1:20:58

We were like shit talkers. But it's really

1:21:00

cool to I don't know we've grown our

1:21:02

space. Really value and care about instead of

1:21:05

just like shit talking and getting to know

1:21:07

about like the artists behind the music. So

1:21:09

it's really cool. Yeah sick and cool. I

1:21:11

don't know what you want me to say

1:21:14

to that you want me to say something?

1:21:16

I just like I just wanted to tell

1:21:18

you it's cool to have you on. You

1:21:20

know me say something? I can say something

1:21:22

like what would you say? I'd say like

1:21:25

hmm. I'd be like. You know what I

1:21:27

wouldn't say anything, I just would say anything

1:21:29

like, I'm not in my head and I'm

1:21:31

saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, the double watch, you

1:21:34

always wear double watches? No, I'm really into

1:21:36

G-shocks lately, so at some, I literally had

1:21:38

four on the other day. Should we have

1:21:40

four watches on? Dude, yes, I love G-shocks,

1:21:42

so I wanted one so bad in sixth

1:21:45

grade, and I couldn't like get stuff like,

1:21:47

they were cool. These are G-shocks, like, like,

1:21:49

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:21:51

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:21:54

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:21:56

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:21:58

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:22:00

like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

1:22:02

like, like, like, like, Wait, sick. You're bringing

1:22:05

G-shocks back and- G-sog. We need to do

1:22:07

a collad. Do you hear that G-shog? Give

1:22:09

it to him. Give it to him. Well,

1:22:11

do you have any other questions for a

1:22:14

long loss? What was one- Oh, I'd seen

1:22:16

a video of someone throwing a sex toy

1:22:18

on stage. Yeah. Was that- There were a

1:22:20

lot of fans that thought that was planned.

1:22:22

There was a lot of people that thought

1:22:25

it was playing because music cut off at

1:22:27

like a perfect time. Is that like another

1:22:29

one of your fun? Like, you know, let's

1:22:31

make a moment here or was that completely

1:22:34

just a natural thing that happened? There was

1:22:36

music stopping, but that's because music naturally stops

1:22:38

right there. But that wasn't my penis that

1:22:40

was still thrown on stage. That was, I

1:22:43

didn't know about that. All right. There you

1:22:45

heard it here first. It was not his

1:22:47

penis. It was authentic and real. I wasn't

1:22:49

going willingly, but while I was going to

1:22:51

say for your hiatus, why you kind of

1:22:54

were gone, or just like, what's next for

1:22:56

you? Yeah, yeah. Well, this is like your

1:22:58

first interview in a while, is there anything

1:23:00

you want to say for your like hiatus,

1:23:03

why you kind of were gone, or just

1:23:05

like, what's next for you? I wasn't going

1:23:07

willingly, but while I was gone, I understand

1:23:09

why the universe had me where I was

1:23:11

where I was, where I was, where I

1:23:14

was, where I mean, where I was, where

1:23:16

I was, where I was, where I was,

1:23:18

where I was, where I was, where I

1:23:20

was, where I was, where I was, where

1:23:23

I was, where I was, where I was,

1:23:25

where I was, I really needed a lot

1:23:27

of time to sit with myself and reflect

1:23:29

on what I wanted and how I wanted

1:23:31

to move forward and what I truly love

1:23:34

and what I don't. I felt like I

1:23:36

was doing for everybody else. So moving forward,

1:23:38

I'm making sure myself love is number one

1:23:40

on my list before any of this other

1:23:43

shit. And I'm excited. And I know it's

1:23:45

going to be grand and it's going to

1:23:47

be... big and it's going to be full

1:23:49

of dreams being fulfilled and is only full

1:23:51

of love. That was inspiring. That was. Those

1:23:54

are good final words. Those are good final

1:23:56

words. And listen to... his new new

1:23:58

song now and listen to

1:24:00

my new song. right now

1:24:03

a plural right now now.

1:24:05

the and the video, when does the video

1:24:07

come out? come out yeah coming out the same night.

1:24:09

out night, night it will be out when this

1:24:11

comes out. be out when Yes, so it's all

1:24:13

out right now. so It's all out. right now go out

1:24:15

go watch. Go watch it right now, go

1:24:18

listen. watch go watch it are seriously go I'm so

1:24:20

excited that you're back and I'm sad that

1:24:22

you left the space, but it seems like

1:24:24

it was warranted for yourself or like your

1:24:26

mental, and I think it's just another stepping

1:24:28

stone. now, boom. Glad to back gonna go. go

1:24:30

You're gonna gonna at him go, at look at

1:24:32

him go look at him shy. Okay thank you so much.

1:24:34

I really appreciate it. Yeah, thank you. Thank

1:24:36

you. you. Thank you