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What is up, everybody? Welcome back
1:06
to Bitcoin and Markets. Happy Wednesday
1:09
out there. It is CPI day.
1:11
CPI was released this morning. I
1:13
did live stream that over on
1:15
Telegram exclusively. It was
1:17
a little bit higher than
1:19
anticipated. The forecast was for
1:21
0 .26 and it came in
1:23
at 0 .3 % month over month.
1:26
So a little bit higher.
1:28
And of course, along with
1:30
that is a lot of
1:32
dooming about reacceleration of inflation.
1:35
I don't think we have anything to worry about.
1:37
We will see what happens throughout
1:39
the next couple of months.
1:42
Remember, once Trump won, there
1:44
was a lot of optimism out there. And
1:46
you can have a pickup in economic activity,
1:48
which will increase lending and increase prices
1:50
and stuff like that. So is this
1:53
a one month bump
1:55
or not? And actually, let
1:57
me take you guys right
1:59
into... chart here. Let
2:02
me share my screen on
2:04
this. This
2:06
is the Bitcoin price but I'm
2:08
gonna jump over to the
2:10
US inflation rate month over
2:12
month and go to the
2:14
monthly different there we go. So
2:18
this has not quite updated yet.
2:20
It did come in at 1 .3
2:22
% up here right on this
2:25
line. So
2:27
we will see
2:29
if that gets
2:31
updated but overall you can see this
2:33
trend is still down even though it
2:35
doesn't feel like it. The trend is
2:37
still down and we could
2:39
be just a month away from
2:42
zero month over month and
2:44
then falling down to 2 %
2:46
if we go to the US
2:48
inflation rate year over year. It's
2:52
coming down. I spent a lot
2:54
of time with this chart today
2:56
making a few different charts for
2:58
the Telegram guys and
3:00
so post
3:02
-GFC normal is what
3:04
I was talking about for a long long time ever
3:08
since being on FedWatch and
3:10
you know years and
3:12
years back towards the beginning
3:14
of COVID but post -GFC
3:16
normal was something
3:18
in I mean I guess we could go back to
3:20
here. This range would be
3:23
like a post -GFC normal
3:25
all right plus or
3:27
minus around 2
3:29
% and so I said we're
3:31
just gonna return to a post -GFC
3:33
normal and we kind of have
3:35
done that now. So we will
3:37
see where this takes us. We are
3:39
back in a post -GFC normal and
3:42
I see no real threat of reacceleration
3:44
of this but that
3:46
does tie into the main topic that
3:48
I want to talk about today
3:50
and it's gonna be a reaction to
3:52
Patrick Boyle. This was requested by
3:54
supporter of the channel Boog so we're
3:57
gonna take a look at this
3:59
and within that That is inflationary questions,
4:01
right? And so I'm going
4:03
to have time to talk about
4:05
that a little bit more. All right,
4:08
what else? Bitcoin and markets.com.
4:10
This is the home page, so check
4:12
it out where I do all my
4:14
writing. Yesterday I released this one answering
4:17
the critics of the Bitcoin
4:19
reserve bill and use some examples.
4:21
These two guys, Chris Hayes and
4:23
Shank Euger, and go through
4:25
their arguments and talk about
4:27
like the sources of funding.
4:29
for this. Bitcoin is not a
4:32
partisan issue. You know, the bill about
4:34
SAB 121 that went through with
4:36
multiple Democrats on both sides,
4:39
both the houses, voting for
4:41
it, including the Senate Majority
4:43
Leader Chuck Schumer. So this
4:45
is not really a Republican
4:47
issue. Bitcoin is not. Plus,
4:50
you know, we have RFK
4:52
Jr. who is traditional Democrat,
4:54
Tulsi Gabbard, traditional Democrat. and
4:57
they are both Bitcoin proponents.
4:59
So this is not a
5:01
partisan issue. Libertarian commitment to
5:03
sound money. They say it's
5:05
hypocritical that libertarian Bitcoiners, they
5:07
want support from the government.
5:09
But in this case, it's
5:11
not that. It's sound money.
5:13
We obvious deep roots in a
5:16
commitment to sound money, which Bitcoin
5:18
represents. And so there you go
5:20
on that one. Bitcoin is not as
5:22
speculative as you think. Here's
5:24
the four-year CIGAR. and the
5:26
lowest is 23% compound annual
5:28
rate of growth. So it's
5:31
not nearly as speculative
5:33
as you get as they claim it
5:35
is. Bitcoin is want to
5:37
accumulate not offload. Part
5:39
of their argument is, oh,
5:42
pump the price and then
5:44
Bitcoiners can dump on the
5:46
government, basically. But no,
5:48
Bitcoiners are obviously known
5:50
for wanting to accumulate
5:53
more Bitcoin. That's part
5:55
of the whole mantra from the
5:57
goal bugs, you know, we want dips
5:59
so we... can buy more, so we can stack
6:01
more. So it's absurd
6:03
to claim that Bitcoiners are
6:05
lobbying the government to offload their
6:07
holdings just completely absurd. Bitcoiners
6:09
don't need a bailout. The
6:12
ones that do need bailouts are the
6:14
scammers, not Bitcoiners. That's why they keep
6:16
saying crypto, like if you listen to
6:18
the Chankyver thing, it's crypto, crypto, crypto,
6:20
crypto. I don't think he says Bitcoin
6:22
once. And it's all just talking about
6:24
these guys, letting these guys
6:26
in into what the definition of
6:28
Bitcoin is. The
6:31
crypto scammers are the ones that need
6:33
a bailout, not the Bitcoiners. So
6:35
especially being at all time high,
6:37
a bailout is kind of
6:39
ridiculous. And
6:42
Bitcoin is the best defense
6:44
for changing monetary landscape. That's
6:46
the whole idea behind why
6:48
the government would want
6:50
to pursue a Bitcoin
6:52
strategic reserve is because
6:54
of this changing monetary landscape that
6:56
we're going through. And
6:59
here are the traits of money, and
7:01
Bitcoin is better, obviously better than
7:03
fiat, and obviously better than gold as well.
7:05
So check that piece out. I also did
7:07
a standalone video for it yesterday. I think
7:09
I got that one out. Well, maybe I
7:11
didn't do this one. I did another standalone
7:13
video, so you guys can check that out.
7:15
All right, let's see who's watching. 52 people.
7:17
What's going on? If you're watching on Twitter,
7:19
please check out the YouTube and Rumble. It's
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comment, subscribe. Appreciate that. If you're
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watching on those other platforms, you know,
7:28
make comments throughout this. I like
7:30
the interaction. So all right, let's
7:33
go to Patrick Boyle
7:35
now, or actually Bitcoin price first,
7:37
Bitcoin price, then Patrick Boyle. So
7:41
back to the
7:43
chart and Bitcoin, and
7:46
we'll go to candles and down to
7:48
let's go to the hourly up
7:50
over 100 ,000. Looking like it's trying to push
7:52
a little bit higher even today. I don't
7:54
know if we will get a breakout today.
7:57
It is Wednesday. Maybe we'll get a breakout into
7:59
the weekend, you know, Tuesday,
8:01
Thursday, Friday, have some big time
8:04
movement on the price. Eventually,
8:06
I'm planning for this to break up.
8:08
If you go back to this pattern
8:10
that I've been talking about for
8:12
several weeks now, this is just
8:15
a pattern that I initially used
8:17
had a little bit back
8:19
and forth on telegram about
8:21
this. So I initially used
8:23
this pattern just to demonstrate
8:25
the... type of consolidation
8:27
I expected and
8:30
that was a rising
8:32
consolidation because all the
8:34
dips would be bought by
8:37
MSTR, by Marathon, by Riot,
8:39
by the ETFs, by market
8:42
makers for the ETFs,
8:44
by market makers, for
8:46
market makers, for
8:48
options on the ETS,
8:50
you know. and governments, the
8:53
kind of stealth government accumulation
8:55
perhaps that we're seeing already.
8:57
So that is why everyone's going to
8:59
be buying the dips at this point
9:02
and why the accumulation would be
9:04
in an upward pattern like
9:06
this. And that's exactly what
9:08
we've gotten, matched this pattern very very
9:11
well. I did think it would break
9:13
up sooner than this. I thought maybe
9:15
this would be the breakout, but maybe
9:17
this is the breakout. The top is
9:20
way higher. even higher than this I
9:22
think I think I think there's
9:24
a lot of imbalance
9:26
between supply and demand right
9:28
now and when that breaks open
9:30
we could see a 50% move in
9:32
price over you know a week or
9:35
two time frame okay so that's
9:37
that that's the Bitcoin price
9:39
should we look at some other
9:41
macro stuff real quick before we
9:44
get into boil this will put
9:46
some stuff in context here I'll
9:48
go to the daily. on this.
9:50
Now the dollar is behaving
9:52
pretty much, I would say
9:54
as expected, but you
9:56
know, it's not anything
9:59
surprising here. Breaking out of
10:01
this descending wedge that I drew the
10:03
other day, we'll see if it follows
10:05
this path. As the global economy
10:08
is slowing down, China is
10:10
having major major issues, the
10:12
dollar is going to continue
10:14
to get stronger. Okay, gold,
10:17
gold having a good day, trying
10:19
to get back above this high
10:21
from November 22nd. We'll see
10:23
if it can do that. Still bullish
10:26
gold, but much less bullish
10:28
than Bitcoin. Okay, how about
10:30
the US 10 year coming
10:32
back a little bit here?
10:34
We'll see the Fed, the chances
10:37
of a Fed rate cut
10:39
are near 100% next week.
10:41
So we'll see how this
10:43
affects yields going over
10:45
the next few days. Oil
10:47
also up quite a bit on
10:50
the day, but in the grand
10:52
scheme of things, you know,
10:54
it's still very very weak.
10:56
It was held up by
10:58
this. this trend line we
11:00
talked about and finally stocks
11:03
stocks having a good day not
11:05
back at all-time highs yet fell out
11:07
of this pattern and trying to
11:09
get back into it this might
11:11
be considered like a retest of
11:13
the bottom here and we could go
11:15
a little bit lower but again
11:18
not concerned really about any sort
11:20
of major reversal in the stock
11:22
market right now but it is
11:25
coming as we approach recession
11:27
as we approach recession. stocks
11:29
will start to trend
11:31
downward. Okay, so that's
11:33
all. Just go back to
11:35
Bitcoin. And now we can go
11:37
to Patrick Boyle. Sure this
11:40
tab. I really do appreciate his
11:42
content. So guys, if you
11:44
don't know about him, you
11:46
should check it out. Check
11:48
out his channel. There we go.
11:50
All right, crank her up. And
11:53
we did have a comment.
11:55
Ruffio. Excellent. I watched a Patrick
11:57
Woe video. Thanks for analyzing it.
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Yes, sir. was requested. Okay,
12:01
let me maximize the screen
12:03
here for telegram and press
12:06
play. A tariff man saying that
12:08
tariffs are the greatest thing
12:10
ever invented and that the word
12:12
tariff is the most beautiful
12:14
word in the dictionary. He announced
12:17
last week that he would
12:19
impose new tariffs on goods entering
12:21
the US from Canada, Mexico and
12:24
China on his first day
12:26
in office. To be clear up
12:28
front. This is not a
12:30
political video. It shouldn't matter
12:32
if you love or hate
12:34
Donald Trump. The purpose is
12:36
just to discuss the issues
12:38
that exist in international trade
12:40
and the impact that tariffs
12:42
or other government actions might
12:44
have on trade employment and
12:46
inflation. Okay, so I was talking a
12:48
little bit on the pre-game show
12:50
with telegram. And there he said,
12:53
hey, we're just going to, this
12:55
is not political, we're just going
12:57
to talk about what's happening and
12:59
what impacts it could have, but
13:01
he really doesn't do that. He sticks
13:03
to the textbook and even though
13:05
I love this video is very comprehensive
13:08
and I think he hit most
13:10
of the main points, I didn't
13:12
really hear a lot of conclusions
13:14
and just a lot of textbook what
13:16
this could mean, what that could
13:19
mean, and that doesn't really. I mean,
13:21
write a lot of insight going forward.
13:23
I'm going to try to end up,
13:25
you guys could tell me how wrong I
13:27
am or how right I am. We'll look at
13:30
how they've worked and failed
13:32
in the past and how
13:34
American tariffs today might be
13:36
different to the disastrous smooth-holly
13:39
tariffs of 1930. Trump announced
13:41
last week on his version of Twitter,
13:44
everyone has their own version of Twitter,
13:46
that he would sign an executive order.
13:48
for a 25% tariff on all goods
13:51
coming from Canada and Mexico, and that
13:53
these tariffs would stay in place until
13:55
the flow of drugs and immigrants from
13:58
these countries into the United States. has
14:00
come to a halt. After
14:02
the announcement, the Mexican peso fell 2
14:04
% and the Canadian dollar traded at
14:06
its lowest rate to the US
14:08
dollar in 15 years. Trump is
14:10
all. One thing I think is important to
14:12
point out is the Canada Mexico
14:15
tariffs are not
14:17
protectionist in the way that
14:19
the tariffs would be against China. Okay.
14:21
So they're the same
14:23
weapon but used for multiple different
14:25
purposes. All Mexico has to do
14:27
is stop the flow of the
14:29
migrants. That's it. And
14:32
then the tariffs will
14:34
go off. So
14:36
a little bit different way of analyzing that. It's
14:39
definitely a club, if you
14:41
will, against China or
14:43
against Mexico and Canada, but it's
14:46
more of a protective economic
14:48
scheme when it comes
14:50
to China. So that's important
14:52
to Already vowed to
14:54
target China with a 60 % tariff
14:56
and has discussed a 200 %
14:58
tariff on some car imports. He
15:00
says that goods coming from China
15:02
will be hit with an additional
15:04
10 % tariff if China doesn't do
15:06
something to halt fentanyl smuggling. Tariffs
15:09
which are controversial with economists are
15:11
core to Trump's economic vision. He
15:13
sees them as a way of
15:15
protecting American jobs, growing the US
15:18
economy and raising tax revenue. Not
15:20
completely. Remember the Mexico -China
15:22
or the Mexico -Canada thing is
15:24
Canada's kind of like China.
15:28
Those aren't for the
15:30
economic purposes. Those are for political purposes.
15:33
On the campaign trail, he told voters
15:35
that his tariffs would not cost
15:37
Americans anything, that they're instead attacks
15:39
on another country, which many economists
15:42
described as being misleading. US
15:44
trade with China has grown enormously over
15:46
the last 25 years. And while
15:48
it brought lower prices to US consumers
15:51
and higher profits to American multinationals,
15:53
it came with some downsides too.
15:55
And both sides of the political aisle
15:57
have been focused on how to
15:59
better pop. trade and how to
16:01
avoid losing access to strategically important
16:03
goods and industries. While Donald
16:05
Trump is a divisive politician where
16:08
some people love him and others
16:10
hate him, his threats to impose
16:12
tariffs on foreign imports are drawing
16:14
support from lawmakers of both parties.
16:16
Janan Ganesh wrote in the FT
16:18
a few weeks ago that Trump's
16:20
biggest success during his first term
16:22
in office was that he bound
16:24
the actions of his successors. saying that
16:26
Trump moved the consensus on a
16:28
big issue, foreign trade, such that the
16:30
next president either couldn't go back
16:32
or didn't want to. During Trump's first
16:35
term in office, the average U.S. tariff
16:37
on... A point there, this is
16:39
something that Peter Zion said a long
16:41
while ago, is that there was no
16:43
difference between Trump and Biden
16:45
on many, many issues and trade
16:48
and tariffs being one of them.
16:50
I think Biden actually increased
16:52
tariffs on increased tariffs
16:54
on... many things over and
16:56
above what Trump had done.
16:59
So yeah, that is an
17:01
interesting point. It also
17:03
kind of speaks to
17:05
the overriding trajectory of
17:07
the global economy.
17:10
And part of this that
17:12
I think Patrick doesn't
17:14
consider is the overall
17:16
trend that we are in,
17:18
a de globalization trend.
17:21
So it's not just Trumpism.
17:23
It is. populism,
17:25
the wave that is going through
17:28
the world de globalization. And so
17:30
that is the underlying current
17:32
that is being manifested in
17:34
these tariffs. And Chinese imports
17:37
rose from around 3% to
17:39
nearly 20%. When Joe Biden
17:41
took office four years later,
17:43
instead of reversing Trump's trade
17:45
policies, he added more tariffs.
17:47
In particular on electric vehicles.
17:50
and a protectionist industrial policy
17:52
that included subsidies and a
17:54
by American mandate. The Cato Institute,
17:56
a libertarian think tank, described
17:58
a Biden army. as Trumpism
18:00
with a human face, or
18:03
polite Trumpism. So let's try to
18:05
understand the issues with international trade
18:07
that have been pushing the United States
18:09
and other countries in this protectionist
18:11
direction, and if tariffs can be expected
18:13
to improve the situation or make
18:15
things worse. We'll discuss whether Trump could
18:17
impose his tariffs unilaterally on his
18:19
first day in office, and whether the
18:21
mere... Okay, that part about will
18:23
they work or will they make things
18:25
worse? It
18:27
depends on the goal, okay?
18:30
And in a era
18:32
of de -globalization and
18:34
general stagnation, the goal
18:36
is not necessarily, you know,
18:39
like I've said plenty of times
18:41
here on the show in
18:43
recent podcasts is that
18:45
the world is moving more towards a
18:47
zero -sum game, zero
18:50
-sum thinking. And so
18:52
what is the goal here?
18:54
What are these tariffs supposed
18:56
to do? Not
18:58
what they are like claimed,
19:01
you know, the rationalization
19:03
behind them, but what literally
19:05
what are they doing? It's... They
19:07
are showing that the world is
19:09
more zero -sum, and so
19:12
that's the thinking that is going
19:14
to be underlying this move, that
19:16
success would be winning in a
19:18
zero -sum game. Winning
19:21
in a zero -sum game is just you beating
19:23
your rival, okay? So
19:25
the U .S. benefiting
19:27
relative to China, that's
19:30
the goal. And that's what
19:32
I think needs to be
19:34
talked about more. And
19:36
Patrick doesn't even, I
19:39
mean he mentions that these
19:41
things, this tariff war will hurt China
19:43
more towards the very, very end,
19:45
but he doesn't tie that into being
19:47
the overall goal because of this underlying
19:49
current. The threat of tariffs could
19:51
be used to improve America's
19:53
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are quite simply a tax on
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imported goods, which gets applied at
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the border when a good is
20:17
bought from abroad. This is a
20:19
protectionist trade strategy where the tariffs
20:21
push up the price of foreign
20:24
sourced goods incentivizing consumers to switch
20:26
to domestically manufactured goods, giving domestic
20:28
manufacturers room to increase their own
20:30
prices. The benefits that domestic manufacturers
20:32
receive come at the expense of
20:34
consumers who all else equal pay
20:37
more for the goods that they
20:39
buy. Okay. That
20:41
one phrase all else equal
20:43
is doing a lot of work.
20:46
It's doing a lot of
20:48
work. Let's rewind this a little
20:50
bit. We'll listen to that
20:52
section again. And just notice how
20:54
much work all else equal
20:56
is doing. Of course, you have
20:58
to say that because it
21:00
is the textbook. The textbook is
21:02
what he's talking about here,
21:04
the textbook definitions. Complete a tax
21:06
on imported goods which gets
21:09
applied at the border when a
21:11
good is bought from abroad.
21:13
This is a protectionist trade strategy
21:15
where the tariffs push up
21:17
the price of foreign sourced goods
21:19
incentivizing consumers to switch to
21:21
domestically manufactured goods, giving domestic manufacturers
21:23
room to increase their own
21:25
prices. The benefits that domestic manufacturers
21:27
receive come at the expense
21:29
of consumers who all else equal
21:31
pay more for the goods
21:34
that they buy. For this reason,
21:36
tariffs are redistributive, taking income
21:38
from the household sector and transferring
21:40
it to protected businesses. Now
21:42
there's nothing too surprising about that
21:44
idea as all taxes are
21:46
redistributive. But critics of Trump's plans
21:48
say that they're not just
21:50
redistributive, but that they'll be inflationary
21:52
and harm the US economy.
21:54
His defenders on the other hand
21:57
point out that this didn't
21:59
happen during Trump's first term and
22:01
that the Biden administration looked
22:03
into removing tariffs when inflation was high, but their analysis
22:05
showed that the change was unlikely to
22:07
make a big difference. Okay, so
22:09
the, he introduces some
22:12
terms here, inflation, inflationary,
22:14
and on the converse
22:17
side, deflation and
22:19
deflationary. So inflationary,
22:21
usually people are talking
22:23
about prices, okay, and
22:25
that prices will go up. which
22:28
is inflationary, causing, I
22:31
guess, being like real
22:33
inflation of the money supply.
22:35
But prices going up
22:38
can actually be deflationary
22:40
because it can cause a, you
22:43
know, customers to be cash
22:45
strapped and pull back and
22:47
then businesses will close and
22:50
people will default and
22:52
there will be a
22:54
collapse and credit. So there
22:56
will be a deflation, And
22:58
so the rising prices
23:00
that people call inflationary
23:03
can result in deflation.
23:05
So this, it's very, see the
23:07
problem I have with these definitions
23:09
and the use of
23:11
the term inflationary and
23:14
inflation to talk about
23:16
prices because it just doesn't
23:18
work and it comes up,
23:20
it's very important piece right
23:22
here in this next section
23:24
that he talks about. He
23:26
mentions that producer
23:28
prices went up, but
23:31
not consumer prices.
23:33
So the middleman took
23:35
a lot of the burden. Well,
23:37
why is that? Why? That's
23:39
the question you need
23:41
to ask, and the answer
23:44
will help you understand
23:46
what's really going on
23:48
in the undercurrent
23:50
of this whole situation.
23:52
Because a tariff is charged at
23:54
the border, it does push up the
23:56
price of imports, which is inflationary. Some
23:58
of that impact is... offset by changes
24:01
in exchange rates, where the
24:03
currency of the tariff charging
24:05
country rises against the currency
24:07
of the country being subjected
24:09
to tariffs. Additionally, foreign companies
24:11
sometimes reduce their prices in order
24:13
to remain competitive. An analysis
24:16
by LPL Financial found that
24:18
tariffs imposed in 2018 hit
24:20
producer prices more than consumer
24:22
prices in the United States
24:24
as wholesalers absorbed some of the
24:26
price increase. Now long-term viewers are
24:28
probably... We couldn't afford
24:31
it. We couldn't afford it. So,
24:33
and if you can't afford it,
24:35
see, inflation can only continue
24:37
higher, or prices can only
24:40
continue higher, and CPI can
24:42
only continue to increase if
24:44
wages are rising, you know, incomes
24:46
rising, and you can afford it.
24:49
But if you get to a point
24:51
where you literally can't afford it
24:53
anymore, you have to start cutting
24:55
back. That's when... the inevitable
24:58
transitory comes in and they
25:00
come back down the other way. That
25:02
is what we're in today. So the
25:04
reason why the producer prices
25:06
had to absorb or producers,
25:08
the middleman, the intermediate goods
25:10
had to absorb it, is because
25:12
the end consumers were still cash
25:15
strapped. And then knowing that, you
25:17
can say, well, okay, the follow-on from
25:19
that is that they're going to pull
25:21
back and then there's going to be
25:24
a downward slide. So you have to...
25:26
dig in a little bit deeper. They are aware
25:28
that I believe in free markets
25:30
and limited government intervention in trade.
25:32
From a free market perspective, the
25:34
correct response to foreign governments subsidizing
25:36
exports is to do nothing. In
25:38
fact, an argument can be made
25:40
that a country should welcome other
25:43
nations' export subsidies, which Milton Friedman
25:45
has described as a form of
25:47
foreign philanthropy. saying that if another
25:49
government wants American citizens to enjoy
25:51
its goods and services at artificially
25:53
low prices, Washington should tell them
25:55
to bring it on. The problem is
25:58
that persistent subsidized imports can eventually
26:00
displaced domestic production of often
26:02
strategically important goods. The worry
26:04
is that unfair foreign competition
26:06
can bankrupt domestic producers, after
26:08
which prices can be hiked
26:10
up by a foreign-owned monopoly. The
26:13
example often given of strategically important production
26:15
is steel, which I discussed in a
26:17
recent video about how Britain was planning
26:20
on paying huge subsidies to foreign-owned steel
26:22
mills to keep them open in the
26:24
UK. Some of the top comments said
26:27
that if China's willing to ship steel
26:29
to Britain, the billion-pound subsidy should instead
26:31
be spent on buying finished steel and
26:34
setting it aside as a strategic reserve.
26:36
Trump is arguing that tariffs on
26:38
America's trading partners are necessary to
26:40
protect US businesses and the American
26:42
worker at a time when US
26:45
manufacturing jobs have dropped from their
26:47
peak in the late 1970s. Trump
26:49
supporters point out that some of
26:51
his tariffs did appear to work
26:53
when he was last in office.
26:55
giving the example that tariffs on
26:57
imported washing machines may have created
27:00
new jobs as they were imposed
27:02
at the same time as Whirlpool
27:04
was building a new factory in
27:06
the United States and the
27:08
tariff helped. See this is why
27:10
it's very hard to analyze
27:12
what exactly will happen
27:14
with tariffs because it's so
27:17
dependent on very particular
27:19
market conditions. Also
27:21
the textbook will say that
27:23
you know, it's to shift demand
27:26
from foreign goods to domestically
27:28
produce goods, but it can
27:30
also just pierce demand in general.
27:32
So like, I don't know about
27:34
you guys, but when you go, a lot
27:36
of the ads that you might see on
27:39
YouTube or ads that you even see on
27:41
Twitter or you go on to Amazon
27:43
and the ones that they're putting
27:45
at the top of your home screen,
27:47
they're all, a lot of
27:50
them are just these really
27:52
cheap. plastic things from
27:54
China. And that
27:56
is, I guess they don't
27:58
have to. be exactly from
28:01
China. But you know, if you didn't
28:03
buy that, you're not going to
28:05
buy another cheap piece of plastic
28:08
made in America. If you buy less
28:10
plastic do hiccies and
28:12
widgets and stupid toys that
28:14
you might play with once or your
28:16
kids might play with once and
28:18
then, you know, you never touch it
28:21
again, but you wasted $40 on it,
28:23
then you're not buying those things.
28:25
You're not going to buy American
28:27
made one for $50 bucks. you're
28:30
just not going to buy it. Okay,
28:32
and so the not just the it's
28:34
not just like a horizontal
28:37
transfer from foreign producers
28:39
to domestic producers. It's
28:41
there's also a qualitative
28:44
shift, especially right now when
28:46
we're going when you know we're in this
28:48
undercurrent of de globalization
28:51
stagnation in the world. People
28:53
it's harder and harder for
28:55
people to get by. There's
28:58
there's you know overall
29:00
just grinding lower look at the
29:02
industrial production of Germany okay
29:04
as an example we're just grinding
29:07
lower people's living standards are
29:09
going down and now you're going to
29:11
do a trade war so it's very hard
29:13
to piece together what a tariff is
29:16
going to do there but I can tell you
29:18
one thing is almost certain that
29:20
it's not going to be
29:22
a horizontal transfer from foreign
29:24
producers to domestic producers of
29:26
the same thing Okay,
29:28
there's going to be
29:31
a qualitative shift in
29:33
what is bought and perhaps
29:36
what services are
29:38
bought, the amount of savings
29:40
that people have, you
29:43
know, put towards savings
29:45
and things. So there's
29:47
a lot, a lot
29:49
of questions and nuance
29:51
to overall effects
29:53
of tariffs, especially
29:56
right now. The results of trade
29:58
policies like this are unfortunate. not always
30:00
clear as there are a lot of
30:02
moving parts and it can be a
30:04
bit like dietary science where a person
30:06
excludes sugary drinks but then eats more
30:08
food offsetting most. The Federal Reserve
30:10
analysis of Trump's first-term tariffs
30:12
found that a lot of the
30:15
benefits were offset by the higher
30:17
costs of imported raw materials that
30:19
American manufacturers had to buy as
30:21
well as from retaliatory tariffs from
30:23
other nations. Overall, they found that there
30:26
was a small decline in the number
30:28
of US manufacturing jobs during Trump's first
30:30
term, but a number of factors like
30:32
the start of the pandemic could explain
30:34
that outcome. Now, it's become a bit of
30:36
a cliche when talking about Donald Trump to
30:38
say that you should take him seriously, but
30:41
not literally. And while that might be a
30:43
cliche, it's still probably true. But while the
30:45
specifics of what he will do about trade
30:47
ones in office are not clear, the thing
30:50
that is really clear is the topic he
30:52
cares the topic he cares the most about.
30:54
You can find videos online dating back 40
30:56
years of Trump on daytime talk shows being
30:59
mostly pleasant until the topic of foreign trade
31:01
comes up. Back then, Japan was his main
31:03
target while today is China. Janan Ganesh
31:05
wrote a few weeks ago that trade
31:07
is almost all that Trump cares about
31:09
with immigration coming in as a distant
31:12
second. He says that over the last
31:14
40 years, Trump has had an intense
31:16
belief that to run a current account
31:18
deficit with another nation is to lose
31:20
to it. I think... that the exact mechanics
31:22
of how Trump plans to deal with
31:24
trade are not clear, but I think
31:26
it makes sense to take him at
31:29
his word that this is the issue
31:31
he cares the most about. Exactly how
31:33
he'll put tariffs in place is maybe
31:35
the most unclear part of his plan,
31:37
but I think it's unlikely that he'll
31:39
do it on inauguration days, he has
31:41
said, as that would likely require him
31:43
to declare a national state of emergency.
31:45
which is what Richard Nixon had to
31:47
do to impose 10% power of sun
31:49
all imported goods when he suspended the
31:51
convertability of the dollar in the gold in
31:53
1971. This is interesting because,
31:55
you know, that's traditionally a
31:58
Democrat type of position. So,
32:00
Democrats were unions, Democrats
32:02
were the working
32:04
man, right? And Trump
32:07
is basically a
32:09
1980s Democrat. But
32:11
now he's, that is what
32:13
has taken over the
32:16
Republican Party mixed in with a
32:18
little bit of other things like the
32:20
border and free
32:22
speech and things like that. But
32:25
overall, it's a very
32:27
Democratic thing. But my,
32:29
how have things shifted
32:31
over the years? So
32:33
again, when when they're attacking now
32:35
today, we see in some
32:37
of the headlines, they continue to
32:39
attack the Bitcoin Strategic Reserve
32:41
as a Republican thing, a very
32:43
partisan thing. It's not that
32:45
it is basically it fits in
32:48
very well with with
32:50
the traditional Democrat
32:52
Party. And anyway,
32:54
so let's just continue. Nixon
32:56
put those tariffs in place to
32:58
prevent American producers from being
33:00
disadvantaged in the expected exchange rate
33:03
volatility around that announcement. Now,
33:05
if tariffs were applied to Canada and
33:07
Mexico and applied to things like
33:09
oil and gas, it would be quite
33:11
inflationary, which is the opposite of
33:13
what Trump promised on the campaign trail.
33:16
So I don't think that this
33:18
is awfully likely. The USMCA trade agreement,
33:20
which replaced NAFTA in 2020, is
33:22
up for a scheduled review in 2026,
33:24
and it seems extremely likely that
33:26
Trump will use that deal as a
33:28
bargaining chip to negotiate with Canada
33:30
and Mexico over things he cares about,
33:32
like immigration. OK, well,
33:34
at least he did say things
33:36
you care about. He cares about
33:39
like immigration because again, this
33:41
stuff with Canada and Mexico is
33:43
not about the economics of it.
33:45
It is about
33:47
the the immigration issue.
33:50
So it's just being used as a cudgel. So
33:54
I wouldn't put they almost have
33:56
to be analyzed in
33:58
two. different groups, the
34:01
China stuff and Canada,
34:03
Mexico. This is exactly what
34:05
he did in the past. In
34:07
2019, under the threat of tariffs, Mexico
34:09
agreed to step up immigration enforcement
34:11
to prevent migrants from entering Mexico from
34:13
Guatemala in the south and to
34:16
stop them from leaving to the US
34:18
in the north. While it's reasonable
34:20
to expect Trump to try and
34:22
extract concessions during these negotiations, both Mexico
34:24
and Canada do run persistent trade
34:26
deficits much like the United States. And
34:28
so overall, they are on the
34:30
same side as the United States on
34:32
this issue. It's worth remembering
34:34
that during his first term in office,
34:36
Trump's cabinet mostly moderated his protectionist
34:38
instincts, along with the stock market reaction,
34:40
which he saw as a measure
34:43
of voter approval. It looks like he
34:45
might have a less conservative cabinet
34:47
this time around, but likely still cares
34:49
about the stock market. So
34:51
what are the problems in international trade
34:53
that Trump is aiming to fix? Well,
34:55
the hyper globalization that began in
34:58
the late 1990s made the
35:00
world better for most people. It
35:02
almost eliminated extreme poverty and
35:04
reduced global inequality. Consumers in
35:06
wealthy countries benefited from cheap imported
35:08
goods, which kept inflation low and
35:10
standards of living as measured by
35:13
per capita income increased around the
35:15
world. While the average person was
35:17
doing much better than before, blue
35:19
collar workers in developed countries were
35:21
struggling as manufacturing work moved abroad
35:23
where labor was cheap. While global
35:25
inequality had fallen inequality within
35:27
the United States had grown.
35:30
Okay, I don't like how
35:32
he makes
35:34
it seem like globalization was a choice.
35:37
So globalization created
35:39
all these benefits. Okay,
35:43
that's that's great. But globalization
35:45
is actually a it's
35:47
a symptom. It's not a
35:49
cause is a symptom and everything
35:52
is caused by a deeper
35:54
thing. And that is
35:56
basically the end of the
35:58
Soviet Union. And the unipolar
36:00
moment when everybody was under the
36:03
WTO, they were under, you know,
36:05
they had the UN, still had
36:07
some clout, you had the World
36:10
Bank, you had IMF, you had
36:12
all these international organizations, and it
36:15
was a unipolar world of trust
36:17
and cooperation, and you know, this
36:19
was. relatively recently after Ronald Reagan
36:22
and Margaret Thatcher. And so you
36:24
have this trust and this exuberance
36:27
in the global economy, all under
36:29
the Pax Americana, and now we
36:31
don't have that. So that is
36:34
why globalization is going away. It's
36:36
not a choice that globalization is
36:39
going away. It is that it's
36:41
going away because that unipolar moment
36:43
is going away. On top of
36:46
all of this, Western governments were
36:48
getting concerned that China and some
36:51
other surplus economies were engaging in
36:53
unfair competition by subsidizing manufacturing while
36:55
imposing restrictions on foreign companies in
36:58
exchange for access to their markets.
37:00
This became more of an issue
37:03
as China developed and could no
37:05
longer claim to be a poor
37:07
developing country. Western economies began to
37:10
see it as a problem that
37:12
China had the highest manufacturing share
37:15
of GDP and the lowest consumption
37:17
share of GDP in the world.
37:19
By agreeing to absorb China's excess
37:22
production, deficit economies like the United
37:24
States were allowing their most aggressive
37:27
trade partner to set their trade
37:29
policies for them. The economist Michael
37:31
Pettis argues that surplus countries subsidize
37:34
their manufacturing industries and pass on
37:36
the costs of these subsidies to
37:38
deficit countries, like the United States.
37:41
He argues that a free trade
37:43
country with open capital markets, when
37:46
trading with a planned economy, is
37:48
not really engaging in free trade.
37:50
They're instead I really like Michael
37:53
Pettis. I'd like him more and
37:55
more accepting the inverse of their
37:58
trade partners trade and industrial policies.
38:00
So how does China subsidize exports? Well,
38:02
Chinese exports receive considerable direct
38:04
subsidies, but the indirect transfers
38:07
they receive are even larger.
38:09
Chinese power plants and banks are
38:11
mostly government-owned, meaning that policy
38:13
makers can decide to give
38:15
cheap energy and low-interest rate
38:17
loans to favoured businesses. There
38:19
are a variety of other ways a
38:21
government can support its manufacturing sector
38:24
too, most of which involve transfers
38:26
from the household sector to the
38:28
business sector. Trade surplus countries often
38:30
have undervalued currencies. This helps
38:33
exporters at the expense of
38:35
importers. Manufacturing businesses are usually
38:37
exporters and households are net
38:40
importers. Keeping interest rates artificially
38:42
low helps borrowers at the expensive
38:44
savers and once again businesses are
38:46
net borrowers and households are net
38:49
savers. Overspending on transportation
38:51
infrastructure like railways, roads and
38:53
ports supports businesses at the
38:55
expense of households too. Repressive
38:57
labour laws, restrictions on worker mobility
39:00
and low penalties for pollution additionally
39:02
help the manufacturing sector at the
39:05
expense of the household sector. In
39:07
China, industrial-zoned land is an order
39:09
of magnitude cheaper than residential land,
39:12
another transfer from households to businesses.
39:14
When all of these policies are combined,
39:16
there are huge transfers from households
39:18
to businesses in China, meaning that
39:21
while businesses can prosper, households can't
39:23
afford to consume the goods that
39:25
are being manufactured. Now in a
39:27
closed economy this would mean that businesses
39:29
would be forced to either
39:32
raise wages to increase consumption
39:34
or reduce production due to
39:36
a lack of demand. In
39:38
a globalized trading system the
39:40
surplus production can be
39:42
exported. Okay very very good
39:45
explanation there. The one thing I'll add
39:47
is also not only are there actual
39:49
policies in place but there is
39:52
a structure in place. with the provinces
39:54
and the five-year plans and
39:56
goals for growth and goals
39:58
for production quota. and all
40:00
of this stuff that reinforces
40:03
a manufacturing mindset,
40:06
an overproduction
40:08
mindset. And so not
40:10
only are, you know, what he
40:13
said, but on top of that,
40:15
it's a cultural thing.
40:17
It's the way the government
40:20
and the Chinese economy
40:22
is set up to
40:24
emphasize overproduction. That's why
40:27
I say. the end of their
40:29
economic model is here. Because
40:31
if globalization is going
40:33
away and he just went through
40:35
that there is no domestic demand
40:38
to suck up all of this
40:40
manufacturing, it has to be exported.
40:43
But it's not going to be exported
40:45
because of globalization and tariffs
40:47
and all of these things. And
40:50
so this is the end of
40:52
the Chinese economic model. They
40:54
have to fundamentally shift what
40:57
they're doing. And I don't
40:59
know if they can. Especially
41:01
when you talk about the
41:03
mandate of heaven, you talk
41:05
about the promise that the
41:07
Chinese men saying, you know, we will,
41:09
you won't have free speech, but we'll
41:11
make sure we grow at 10% a
41:13
year. Okay, I really met 7% a
41:15
year. Oh, we mean 4% a year.
41:18
How long does that have to
41:20
go until they're at zero
41:22
or negative and the mandate
41:24
of heaven is being revoked
41:26
by the people? So this is
41:29
kind of an existential threat to
41:31
them on top of it being the
41:33
end of their economic model. And the
41:35
reason for that is the undercurrent
41:37
of what's happening in the world.
41:39
This trade surplus doesn't necessarily
41:41
give China an advantage. It's
41:44
a result of flawed policies
41:46
and the means of dealing
41:48
with a huge disadvantage, which
41:50
is extremely low domestic demand.
41:52
This doesn't just affect China, however, as
41:54
a surge in a country's exports that
41:56
are not balanced by a surge in
41:58
import means that manifest... in deficit countries
42:01
find themselves partially funding the Chinese
42:03
subsidies with their lost income. The
42:05
imbalances in China move the production
42:08
of goods away from where they
42:10
might be most efficiently manufactured under
42:12
the law of comparative advantage and
42:15
cause all sorts of trade distortions.
42:17
When exports are high and imports
42:19
are low, a country starts accumulating
42:21
the currency of its biggest trade
42:24
partners as savings. Chinese savings are
42:26
not high due to any culture
42:28
of frugality in China. It's simply
42:31
a function of keeping wages low
42:33
and exporting without importing. You don't
42:35
just keep the proceeds of trade
42:38
in dollar bills in a vault
42:40
either, you usually invest them in
42:42
things like bonds. So China's excess
42:45
savings are mostly sent back to
42:47
the United States, where there are
42:49
deep capital markets. This means that
42:51
there's more capital in the United
42:54
States than is needed for investment
42:56
purposes, which can be seen in
42:58
the huge cash balances that US
43:01
companies are sitting on. So can
43:03
Trump's tariffs offset Chinese subsidies and
43:05
help to rebalance global trade? Well,
43:08
possibly, but not if Trump just
43:10
puts tariffs on Chinese imports. The
43:12
reason this wouldn't work is that
43:15
if the United States refused to
43:17
buy Chinese goods but continued to
43:19
buy from other countries, this would
43:22
just push the problem to another
43:24
trade partner. Unable to sell EVs
43:26
in the United States, China would
43:28
ship them to Europe, undercutting European
43:31
EVs. That's not exactly correct either.
43:33
The Chinese or the American consumer
43:35
is the strongest in the world
43:38
will buy everything. I don't know.
43:40
I've had some European friends in
43:42
the past and you know, when
43:45
they see the things that Americans
43:47
buy like the little widgets for
43:49
the kitchen or whatever they say
43:52
only in America. That would only
43:54
be bought in America. And so,
43:56
no, the American consumer is the...
43:58
It is almost irreplaceable that some
44:01
part of it, yes, can be
44:03
replaced by Europeans, European, consumers, but
44:05
they're having a worse time of
44:08
it economically than we are. And
44:10
so as we go through stagnation
44:12
and decline, the American consumer is
44:15
going to become more and more
44:17
and more irreplaceable. They don't have
44:19
an option here. So I would
44:22
differ with Patrick on that point.
44:24
European manufacturers unable to compete in
44:26
their own markets would ship European
44:28
EVs to the United States, and
44:31
the overall problem would be exactly
44:33
the same. If China continued to
44:35
keep consumption low while exporting, Chinese
44:38
savings would continue to be exported
44:40
to the United States too. The
44:42
Chinese trade surplus would remain as
44:45
big as before, even if it
44:47
fell against the United States, and
44:49
the US trade deficit would continue
44:52
to grow too. So tariffs applied
44:54
on a country-by-country basis are unlikely
44:56
to have any notable effect. They
44:59
would really need to be applied
45:01
equally to all trade partners in
45:03
order to work. But this would
45:05
be very politically contentious, as it
45:08
would involve upsetting America's allies, who
45:10
are not really to blame for
45:12
the imbalances in global trade. If
45:15
China is already an aggressive trade
45:17
partner and the US joined them,
45:19
every other country would be forced
45:22
to follow suit, as otherwise they
45:24
would be paying the cost. This
45:26
is the biggest problem with government
45:29
trade intervention. A number of journalists
45:31
have expressed concern that Trump's trade
45:33
plans are worryingly similar to the
45:35
smooth-holly act passed under Herbert Hoover.
45:38
which contributed to the problems of
45:40
the Great Depression. I made a
45:42
video a few weeks ago about
45:45
the Great Depression and a notable
45:47
difference between the late 1920s and
45:49
today is that in the 20s
45:52
America was the world's biggest exporter
45:54
and had much more to lose
45:56
than it does today. In a
45:59
trade war countries who need to
46:01
export are in a much weaker
46:03
position than countries that are absorbing
46:05
excess supply. Well the smooth Hawley
46:08
Act was a terror. What a
46:10
great point. And that makes me
46:12
think also about... the phrase that
46:15
demand begets supply. So remember if
46:17
you. are an importing country you
46:19
are the home of the consumer
46:22
the consumer is always right and
46:24
if you have all this demand
46:26
that can't be met internationally you
46:29
know by your because maybe there's
46:31
tariffs or maybe there's a pandemic
46:33
or something you still have that
46:36
demand and that will be get
46:38
supply all right where the Chinese
46:40
model is actually the reverse okay
46:42
well actually U.S. consumer demand created
46:45
supply from China, but it can
46:47
also create supply domestically. But China
46:49
is in opposite boat. Okay, they
46:52
can't, you can't just make things
46:54
and then people magically want to
46:56
buy them. So that's why China
46:59
isn't a much worse situation. Now,
47:01
remember, going back to the very
47:03
beginning, I was talking about zero-sum.
47:06
and how in a world of
47:08
de globalization stagnation decline, collapsing fertility
47:10
rates and all that, we're going
47:12
to more and more of a
47:15
zero-sum society. Zero-sum from a subconscious
47:17
mental construct of what we are
47:19
in. And so in that case,
47:22
we should expect these tariffs to
47:24
happen. that China will lose out
47:26
more than the US loses out
47:29
because it's zero-sum thinking. I'm not
47:31
saying that's good. I'm saying that's
47:33
where it's going because of this
47:36
zero-sum thinking. If China loses, America
47:38
wins. Just like Trump said, he
47:40
thinks about it in, if you
47:43
have a current account, imbalance, you
47:45
lost against the other country. So,
47:47
yeah. That's my thoughts on that.
47:49
Terrible idea. I don't believe that
47:52
it was to blame for the
47:54
Great Depression, and I don't believe
47:56
that new tariffs would lead to
47:59
that scale of economic catastrophe. Trump
48:01
said in interviews that he would
48:03
love to entirely replace income taxes
48:06
with import tariffs. I think this
48:08
is... Okay, another thing that he
48:10
just said there, that Smootholly, he
48:13
thinks it didn't lead exactly to
48:15
the Great Depression, it could have
48:17
exacerbated issues, but that he doesn't
48:19
think tariffs today will lead to
48:22
the same thing. Now, what would
48:24
your thinking be if you thought
48:26
that the tariffs were a symptom?
48:29
of the Great Depression or
48:31
the international zeitgeist leading into
48:33
the Great Depression. So if
48:35
you if you think that
48:37
the tariffs are the conscious
48:39
thing and yes they are
48:41
in a way that you
48:43
pick what percentage rate you
48:45
want to tariff at and
48:47
you what country you're going
48:49
to apply it to and
48:51
who's going to do the
48:53
deal and all this stuff
48:55
but the in the ethos
48:57
of the I don't know
49:00
what to call it. aura
49:02
of the times is making
49:04
terrace inevitable and smooth holly
49:06
and the depression show that
49:08
they are both symptoms of
49:10
an underlying problem and today
49:12
we have this underlying problem
49:14
and so terrace are showing
49:16
their head depression is probably
49:18
going to show its head
49:20
as well because they're both
49:22
symptoms. This is mostly bluster
49:24
and shouldn't be taken too
49:26
seriously. The Peterson Institute, a
49:28
mostly centrist think tank, wrote
49:30
a report on this recently,
49:32
pointing out that last year
49:34
the United States imported $3.1
49:36
trillion worth of goods, but
49:38
raised around $2 trillion in
49:40
income tax. Tariff rates would
49:42
thus have to be over
49:44
65% to replace the income
49:46
tax, and that's assuming no
49:48
fall in imports, which would
49:50
be extremely unlikely with 65%
49:52
tariff. replacing income taxes with
49:54
tariffs just couldn't war. A
49:56
number of big US companies...
49:58
have been stockpiling goods in
50:00
preparation for Trump's tariffs. The
50:02
economist reports that Microsoft Dell
50:04
and Hewlett Packard are among
50:06
the American tech companies that
50:08
are rushing to import as
50:10
many electronic components as possible
50:12
before the new administration takes
50:14
office in January. While this
50:16
might help them in the
50:18
short term, I doubt that
50:20
they could import enough components
50:22
to get them through years
50:24
of potential terror. It's difficult
50:26
to predict how Trump's trade
50:28
policies will work. The U.S.S.
50:30
could act unilaterally as they
50:32
do run the largest trade
50:34
deficit in the world, and
50:36
there's plenty of supply in
50:38
the world, and the thing
50:40
that is scarce is demand,
50:42
which is what the U.S.
50:44
brings to the table. A
50:46
better option might... There you
50:48
go. That's a good way
50:50
to put it. That there
50:52
is a shortage of demand
50:54
for these goods. And the
50:56
U.S. is... the consumer of
50:58
last resort, if you will.
51:00
So yeah, that's a great
51:02
way to put it. For
51:04
the United States to work
51:06
with other large deficit economies
51:08
like Canada, Australia, and the
51:10
UK, where combined they make
51:12
up about 70% of global
51:14
deficits, if they struck a
51:16
deal where they as a
51:18
group placed tariffs on countries
51:20
that run large persistent surpluses,
51:22
that could help to rebalance
51:24
global trade. If countries wanted
51:26
to sell to that blog,
51:28
they would either have to
51:30
take steps to boost domestic
51:33
demand or cut production. Other
51:35
countries wouldn't have to really
51:37
agree, as most of the
51:39
rest of the world are
51:41
trying to export rather than
51:43
agreeing to import. If they
51:45
wanted to sell to these
51:47
countries, they'd just have to
51:49
agree to the term. A
51:51
rebalancing of trade like this
51:53
would be extremely painful for
51:55
surplus countries like China, Germany,
51:57
Japan, Russia, and Saudi Arabia.
51:59
but it could be expected
52:01
to boost American manufacturing and
52:03
allow American businesses to compete
52:05
internationally without slashing wages. This
52:07
rebalancing would also mean repatriating
52:09
the capital. which has been
52:11
flowing into the United States
52:13
for decades. Foreigners own around
52:15
20% of all U.S. securities
52:17
outstanding. And as trade rebalance,
52:19
these savings would have to
52:21
be repatriated back home, which
52:23
would have to occur in
52:25
an orderly manner. It's very
52:27
difficult to predict what Trump
52:29
might do in his second
52:31
term in office, other than
52:33
to say that he'll amp
52:35
up trade negotiations while likely
52:37
keeping an eye on the
52:39
stock market as a measure
52:41
of his success. All right,
52:43
that does it for that.
52:45
So let's check out the
52:47
comments here. Tex and Vic
52:49
to spec with this, heard
52:51
something about the Bank of
52:53
England bailing out shadow banks.
52:55
What's all that? I haven't
52:57
heard that. England is in
52:59
some deep trouble, though, I
53:01
think. It's kind of a...
53:03
I was just listening to
53:05
another podcast. I can't remember
53:07
which one it was, and
53:09
they were going through just
53:11
how bad. England is getting.
53:13
It's similar to Canada, right?
53:15
They're going down the same
53:17
path. Raphael, what do you
53:19
think of Bitcoin's monetization going
53:21
forward, not being from people
53:23
selling other assets to buy
53:25
it, but from loans using
53:27
the credit money system we
53:29
have and get to 20
53:31
trillion market cap? Yeah, that's
53:33
one thing that's very interesting
53:35
about what Michael Saylor is
53:37
doing. He's creating an opportunity
53:39
to print money, literally print
53:41
money through the credit system
53:43
and directly into Bitcoin. It's
53:45
fascinating. And in that case,
53:47
it would be something like
53:49
asset price inflation. So asset
53:51
price inflation were the cost
53:53
of the prices. Bonds stuff
53:55
that they're going up because
53:57
that's where all the leverage
53:59
happens. That's where all the
54:01
lending is centered around because
54:03
the broader economy is stagnant.
54:05
And so it's kind of
54:08
like you're narrowing the stream
54:10
of where that new credit
54:12
is being created. If that
54:14
stream gets diverted a little
54:16
bit into Bitcoin or Bitcoin
54:18
gets included into that asset
54:20
price inflation basket. It would
54:22
be very interesting to see
54:24
if it steals some money
54:26
away from those two things.
54:28
Of course, we've talked about
54:30
it for a long time
54:32
in Bitcoin about Bitcoin stealing
54:34
a lot of real estate
54:36
thunder. I saw another tweet
54:38
that I responded to today
54:40
about Bitcoin versus, you know,
54:42
buying and holding a house,
54:44
a rental for eight years.
54:46
Of course, when you look
54:48
at Bitcoin in the last
54:50
eight years, it doesn't make
54:52
any sense. But going forward,
54:54
even if you talk about
54:56
holding Bitcoin, and in the
54:58
worst case scenario, it goes
55:00
up like 10% a year
55:02
or something, there's no sense
55:04
in even buying a house.
55:06
And so all those people
55:08
that have homes for Airbnb
55:10
or whatever, I can see
55:12
it really taking a lot
55:14
away from that. And so
55:16
maybe the fire hose would
55:18
be directed away from real
55:20
estate. at least this kind
55:22
of residential niche of real
55:24
estate, which I don't know
55:26
how big that is, save
55:28
several trillion, could be funneled
55:30
into Bitcoin. That would be
55:32
insane. And yeah, we would
55:34
get to a 20 trillion
55:36
dollar market cap, you know,
55:38
within several years, probably within
55:40
a cycle or something like
55:42
that. Okay, that was that.
55:44
Let's go to not seeing
55:46
any other... Oh, D.T. You
55:48
did say that in the
55:50
bill, the Bitcoin reserve bill.
55:52
Because I was saying, if
55:54
we start buying in the
55:56
second half of next year,
55:58
200,000 a year, I think
56:00
it says calendar year, whatever,
56:02
but you said it can't.
56:04
be more than 200,000. It
56:06
doesn't say not less than
56:08
200,000. So I stand corrected
56:10
on that. I'll have to
56:12
go back and double check
56:14
on that. So yeah, any
56:16
other comments here before we
56:18
bounce out for the day?
56:20
So if you guys have
56:22
something you want me to
56:24
react to, you can DM
56:26
me on Twitter, you can
56:28
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56:30
most of my time in
56:32
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56:34
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56:36
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56:38
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56:40
You can find the links
56:43
in my PIN tweet, trying
56:45
to get to a thousand
56:47
subs on the YouTube to
56:49
get it monetized. Also, check
56:51
out Bitcoin and markets.com. I'll
56:53
go there one more time
56:55
here, been right in there
56:57
quite a bit lately, doing
56:59
the free blogs. You also
57:01
have paid stuff here so
57:03
you can go to pro
57:05
members. And you can see
57:07
my last one came out
57:09
on December 1st, I gotta
57:11
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57:13
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57:15
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57:17
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57:45
right. One last look at
57:47
the price before we go.
57:49
Let's go down to the
57:51
one hour and my pattern
57:53
on here. So still sitting
57:55
above 100K. I don't think
57:57
we have seen the last
57:59
of the five digits, but
58:01
every time we break back
58:03
above 100K, we just... eat
58:05
all of those orders that
58:07
like to cluster around that
58:09
round number. And eventually there
58:11
will be no more Bitcoin
58:13
to buy at this level
58:15
and you'll need to go
58:17
higher. So exciting times, exciting
58:19
times. All right guys, thanks
58:21
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58:23
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