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Charlie I am Pat

1:05

Boyle. Pat Boyle. Big this week. Luke

1:08

Richardson is no longer the

1:10

head coach of the Chicago Blackhawks. Anders

1:12

Sorenson has been been. to

1:14

interim to She was the head

1:16

coach of the Rockford Ice Hogs the

1:19

last couple of years. He actually took

1:21

over for Derek King when Derek

1:23

came. and and was interim head

1:25

coach for a while. a while. So the uh,

1:28

the news broke on

1:30

all the people that we would would

1:32

expect talk to Kyle the

1:34

players players, we heard

1:36

from as well

1:38

on on Friday. Let's just go

1:41

with your reaction to

1:43

dismissal on Thursday. Were you surprised?

1:45

Yeah, I I honestly was a little

1:47

bit surprised and maybe maybe I shouldn't

1:49

have been. been based on on where

1:52

things were trending. I'm trying think. try

1:54

to put I'm trying to put this

1:56

all into perspective. come come from it

1:58

from the Blackhawks management side. side. were

2:00

very clear at the end of last

2:02

season, Kyle Davidson, April 20th was the

2:04

exit interviews, and he had a prominent

2:07

quote saying, we finished in the bottom

2:09

three the last three years, we cannot

2:11

be dead last in the NHL moving

2:13

forward. We have to take some strides,

2:16

right? So through 26 games of the

2:18

season, the Hawks are dead last in

2:20

the NHL with 18 points. So by

2:22

judging based on that merit alone, they're

2:25

not meeting expectations. On the flip slide,

2:27

Luke Richardson, we've referenced this multiple times

2:29

on many different platforms, but the Hawks

2:31

knew that they were going to struggle

2:34

offensively going into this season. and it

2:36

came in that little episode of every

2:38

shift, episode one, Norma Kiver, they're sitting

2:40

in that room, they're looking at the

2:43

whiteboard, they're saying, where are the goals

2:45

gonna come from? And, you know, even

2:47

before the Hawks took the ice, they

2:49

were wondering about the potential offensive struggles

2:52

that this team might have just purely

2:54

on paper. So when I look at

2:56

the offensive scoring struggles, I'm thinking, well,

2:58

this is, this is exactly the, the

3:01

Blackhawks probably thought that they were gonna

3:03

struggle in this way. Defensively, the Hawks

3:05

have actually been a significant, have shown

3:07

significant improvement in the, especially in the

3:10

goals against department. They've taken strides in

3:12

that way. I think for me, it's

3:14

hard. I try, I try, I try

3:16

to picture what. Is there a coach

3:18

out there that would be able to

3:21

extract more out of this current group

3:23

right now? And how much of it

3:25

played a role of the fact that

3:27

Connor Bedard has struggled and kind of

3:30

has hit this sophomore slump? And not

3:32

to put too much pressure on Connor

3:34

Bedard because I kind of want to

3:36

go the other way with that too.

3:39

I'm sure if Connor was performing well

3:41

and doing his thing, maybe this isn't

3:43

a huge topic of discussion. But I

3:45

kind of want to put it more

3:48

on the guys that got brought in

3:50

to support Connor Bedard. They haven't been

3:52

the ones producing. And so it's kind

3:54

of twofold of Hawks haven't been scoring.

3:57

The team. organization placed higher expectations going

3:59

on to this season, but at the

4:01

same time it's hard for me to

4:03

fault Luke Richardson as the main guy

4:06

on that, but at the same time

4:08

what would the Blackhawks word mean if

4:10

they say we're we're expecting better and

4:12

it's kind of been status quo. So

4:16

I'm going to try to

4:18

just zoom out and look

4:20

at it. The first two

4:22

years, I don't really think

4:24

you could judge Luke really

4:27

by the results of this

4:29

team as far as wins

4:31

and losses and points. I

4:33

think you could judge him

4:35

by did he create a

4:38

culture, did he. Did he

4:40

take a difficult time, a

4:42

tanking roster, and by and

4:44

large, did those players come

4:47

to work, and did he

4:49

create an environment that was,

4:51

you know, able

4:53

to support an NHL group.

4:56

And I think he checked

4:58

all those boxes. He was

5:00

a great culture center. He

5:02

had a strong work ethic

5:05

himself. And I think he

5:07

laid that forth, that foundation.

5:09

Now comes the part of

5:11

they wanted to see a

5:13

jump in the standings. Now,

5:16

you know, we've talked about

5:18

the realistic jump that you

5:20

could get. I mean, we

5:22

thought it would be a

5:24

huge. jump to go up

5:27

20 points and that would

5:29

still put you six or

5:31

seventh worst in the league.

5:33

We have seen them get

5:36

better. You know, we looked

5:38

at the first 25 games.

5:40

Basically, it's the same record

5:42

as they had the first

5:44

25 games last year, but

5:47

they're giving up less goal

5:49

tending, giving up less high

5:51

danger. They got better defensively.

5:53

They are better at the

5:56

power play, better on PK.

5:58

but they weren't scoring five

6:00

on five and that really

6:02

was the the Achilles for

6:04

this team. And as you

6:07

pointed out, players like Taylor

6:09

Hall and table Terra Vine

6:11

and Tyler Bertuzzi, and you

6:13

can go on and on,

6:15

they haven't had great season

6:18

so far. Nobody really has.

6:20

I mean. Ryan Donato is

6:22

probably the only player that's

6:24

having a quote unquote career

6:27

year as far as production.

6:29

And then you factor in

6:31

the Bedard situation and it's

6:33

this it's this perfect storm

6:35

of of not good. And

6:38

when you're last in the

6:40

NHL, we've seen this league.

6:42

has turned to casting off

6:44

coaches at a rapid pace.

6:47

It happens every month. It

6:49

happens every year seemingly. You

6:51

can't replace a roster, but

6:53

you can replace a coach.

6:55

And we've seen, you know,

6:58

we've seen coaches of the

7:00

year get launched in in

7:02

record time in less than

7:04

two years after winning the

7:06

Jack Adams Award. So, You

7:10

know, it's tough to see a

7:12

great guy like Luke go, but

7:14

you begin to look at what

7:17

they thought were correctable things or

7:19

habitual things, things that were happening

7:22

on a somewhat regular basis. Here's

7:24

Kyle Davidson on where Luke did

7:26

not meet expectations. Well, I think

7:29

it was more so what we

7:31

expected from, you know, just the

7:34

team from game to game, you

7:36

know, we were close in a

7:38

lot of games, which is good,

7:41

which is a step forward from

7:43

last year, but, you know, at

7:46

times I think some of the

7:48

reasons why we fell short in

7:50

those games were more, you know,

7:53

maybe habitual, you know, habit things

7:55

that I think can be cleaned

7:58

up through feedback and through, um,

8:00

know, maybe some different instruction, you

8:02

know, in practice between games, that

8:05

kind of thing. And I think

8:07

that was, you know, just some

8:10

of the reasons games went sideways

8:12

on us, I think we're likely

8:14

fixable. You know, Charlie. from

8:17

Kyle's perspective, you know, he

8:19

he acknowledged that they were

8:21

in pretty much every game,

8:23

but the results weren't there

8:25

and you could point to

8:27

a couple of plays in

8:29

each game that seemed to

8:31

now, we talked to Jason

8:33

Dickinson, he said, you know,

8:35

he put one of those

8:37

like on himself and there

8:39

were breakdowns, but there were

8:41

also There were also common

8:44

denominators, habitual issues that popped up. The goals

8:46

after scoring is something that I think plagued

8:48

this group. Late period, early period goals, the

8:50

momentum changers, things that they think are correctable.

8:53

Quite frankly, they expected to be correctable and

8:55

they didn't see enough of that. And when

8:57

you look at Luke's situation, he was in

9:00

the last year of his deal, there was

9:02

a club option for a fourth year. They

9:04

weren't tied financially to him very long. So

9:06

from a financial standpoint, they weren't taking a

9:09

huge burden by deciding to go this route

9:11

either. Yeah, this feels like the hawks made

9:13

the move because they didn't want to risk

9:15

the locker room kind of getting into a

9:18

dark place mentally. And we heard the comments

9:20

from table terravine in a few weeks ago

9:22

saying his confidence was starting to wane. Connor

9:25

Bedard was on hockey night in Canada and

9:27

said this season has been tough on him

9:29

mentally, right? And so when when Kyle Davidson

9:31

got today at his press conference when did

9:34

they start thinking or when did he start

9:36

thinking about the possibility of a coaching change.

9:38

He was he said it wasn't until like

9:41

he thought that the team was starting to

9:43

turn a corner after the the win over

9:45

the defending Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers. They

9:47

squander the two goal lead in Minnesota, but

9:50

they pick up a point, or not in

9:52

Minnesota in Philadelphia, but they pick up a

9:54

point. They follow that up with a big

9:57

62 to win over the Dallas Stars who

9:59

are gonna be favorites to come out of

10:01

the West or one of the favorites. And

10:03

so, and then you go into Minnesota. Hawks

10:06

have a two nothing lead. If they if

10:08

they close the door in Philadelphia, and if

10:10

they close the door in Minnesota, both of

10:13

those games, they were up two to nothing.

10:15

You can even rewind to the prior game

10:17

against Anaheim at home. They went into that

10:19

third period up two to one. If you

10:22

put together, if you close the deal in

10:24

all three of those games that ended up

10:26

being losses, the Hawks could have turned that

10:29

into a five game winning streak, then the

10:31

feeling changes, the mood changes, they had that

10:33

offensive explosion against Dallas where all the guys

10:35

that needed to bust out of their offensive

10:38

scoring slumps snapped out of it, but then

10:40

translated it into a four game losing streak.

10:42

And I think Kyle was saying, Man, we

10:45

were making progress. We were, we were slowly

10:47

coming out of it. And then we just

10:49

got, they just got hit by a ton

10:51

of bricks and now it's almost gonna feel

10:54

like twice as hard to get out of

10:56

it. And so that's probably why he thought,

10:58

okay, I have to step in and make

11:01

this change because. I can't, we can't deal

11:03

with four more months of this, you know,

11:05

two months into the season, you kind of

11:07

know who you are as a team. And

11:10

so that's where Kyle is probably saying for

11:12

the, for this, this the sanity of the

11:14

locker room, they had to make sure that

11:16

they had some, some better vibes going into

11:19

the rest of the season. Nick Felino was

11:21

asked, what area can they clean up and

11:23

here's what the Blackhawks captain had to say.

11:26

I I think as

11:28

a whole just our

11:30

consistency right our details right?

11:32

Our details know our, you know,

11:35

to get the job

11:37

done get the that's really

11:39

results matter And I

11:42

just find that we're

11:44

we were just too

11:46

inconsistent as a group

11:48

and you know, it's

11:51

it's that's not fully

11:53

on group. it's on the

11:55

group here. I think

11:58

that's where the message

12:00

was today, too it's, that's

12:02

not fully on Luke. everyone needs

12:04

to take ownership of

12:07

this and you know

12:09

That's the sad part

12:11

is one person maybe

12:14

takes the fall But

12:16

it's all of us

12:18

that need to be

12:20

better in here here.

12:23

know, we're we're excited

12:25

to work with work with Anders

12:27

know, I think know I

12:30

want us to would want us ahead forge right? too

12:32

right like cares a lot about this group

12:34

and this organization, so the best we

12:36

can do is so the moving ahead here

12:38

do show that we can be that

12:40

team. here and show thoughts on the Your thoughts on

12:42

that we had with him? that we had

12:44

as always, he was insightful and he's

12:46

the the guy that wears the C on the Blackhawk

12:48

sweater so it was important for us

12:50

to hear. us to hear what his message

12:53

was. was and I didn't really this,

12:55

but he had said that said that

12:57

had known Luke Richardson even

12:59

prior to his playing days because

13:01

his because his guess they rented out

13:03

his house in Toronto in his

13:05

dad was playing there. playing there so. I I

13:07

think he lived in the house that

13:09

Luke Richardson lived in, in Toronto when he his

13:11

dad was, which is was of crazy

13:13

to think about. And so to was nice

13:15

that so was able to connect with

13:17

Luke. was And, uh, to it with Luke and it

13:19

was, it was Nick It was been around

13:21

for a long time in this league

13:23

and he took ownership of, of the

13:25

he took play so far. the and

13:27

knowing that. and knowing that. they need to

13:29

to break out of this, not just for for

13:31

the room, but also it would be, it would be,

13:34

know, in some ways you, Luke is Luke

13:36

is invested in the in the Blackhawks as as

13:38

well, and so liked how brought

13:41

brought the into the equation of saying,

13:43

we also want to honor Luke Luke in

13:45

and like. how we move forward because he's

13:47

invested a lot in us and

13:49

I'm sure he's rooting for us sure

13:51

well. So for us as a challenging, challenging last

13:53

24 hours for the as they try

13:55

to process this and move forward with

13:57

a new interim head coach. coach. So

14:00

let's talk about talk about what

14:02

the Blackhawks are getting

14:04

in Anders First of all,

14:06

he's the first the be an

14:08

NHL head coach, so. coach, He's

14:10

got that accomplishment. And

14:13

congratulations on that. on

14:15

we've We've a little bit

14:18

over the years a little

14:20

interactions with him in our

14:22

when he comes up and

14:24

Rockford when he comes up and coaches the prospects

14:27

camp and you know, What you

14:30

noticed about Anders over the last

14:32

couple of years and what do

14:34

you expect from him at the

14:36

NHL level? I've had I've had

14:38

quite a few interactions with Sorensen

14:40

over the last few years, and

14:42

we've developed a pretty good relationship

14:44

good relationship extremely personable. He

14:47

is direct to the point in his

14:49

answers and you'll see that in

14:51

a lot of his media of media scrums. He'll

14:53

get straight to the point. point.

14:55

was more elaborative, long -winded,

14:57

kind of kind the entire the

15:00

of perspective. of Sorenson is more

15:02

direct, but the thing that.

15:04

The thing that I think makes I think

15:07

the right guy right now guy the

15:09

rest of this season rest of this

15:11

season is his, um, his experience

15:13

working with those younger players

15:15

in in Rockford, Lucas Alex, Placic, Wyatt Kaiser,

15:17

Louis Crivey is here now, but not

15:20

sure where he fits into

15:22

the picture the term, longer but. term,

15:24

but A lot of the players that

15:27

need to get going, Connor Bedard, Lucas Reichel had a

15:29

had a great season on the fourth

15:31

line, but just kind of unlocking more

15:33

of that offense out of him. out

15:35

think I think if He can, because

15:37

Sorenson has a developmental

15:39

coach background. I I feel

15:41

like the rest of this

15:44

season is less about getting more

15:46

out of the Part of it is getting more out

15:48

of the entire group. but priority three is

15:50

two and three is making sure

15:52

that back on gets back on track

15:54

in his development. to feel to

15:57

feel more and feel good about his

15:59

game again. and And if he

16:01

starts to produce, he'll he'll have more confidence.

16:03

The team will have more confidence. It

16:05

will translate likely into more five on

16:07

five scoring. on five scoring, the around

16:09

him will start to get some cookies

16:11

some they might get their confidence up

16:13

their as a result of all of

16:15

that, it's kind of a trickle

16:17

down effect. of a lead to more wins

16:19

and points for the to more wins I'm

16:21

for I'm not trying to reinvent the

16:23

wheel here. I'm I'm to into this

16:25

position, I'm leaning on the assistance for

16:27

the guidance of the NHL the NHL part.

16:30

dealing with line matches as the games

16:32

go on, But but for Sorenson,

16:34

I think his, the priority for him the

16:36

priority for him the is working with

16:38

the younger guys. And then when

16:40

the Naysar, Artam Lefshanoff, if he might if he

16:42

might see time this year. if

16:45

they end up if they end up

16:47

getting recalls later on in the

16:49

season for Chicago There's already that

16:51

built -in trust and comfortability with some

16:53

of those younger players players. You

16:55

look at his background and as you

16:57

say, you you say, he's

16:59

perfect for the younger player

17:02

in the Blackhawks and he's

17:04

he's already coached some of

17:06

them Vlasic and and and so

17:08

And so, some He has

17:10

some familiarity with them. some They

17:12

have some and and they're able to

17:14

tell their teammates what he was like

17:16

there. And then like you said,

17:18

you've got the whole group. whole group,

17:21

the Frankie Nazars and Company,

17:23

that he's been coaching and, you

17:25

know, know, we' eventually

17:27

see them up with the team. The

17:30

question The question is, you know,

17:32

how does he gain the trust of?

17:34

players in the room? players in the

17:36

room. it started with, you know,

17:38

he contacted Nick on on Thursday

17:41

night kind of got of got the lay

17:43

of the land, the perspective from

17:45

the captain of. of what the

17:47

temperature was like in the room. in the room.

17:49

where things were working, where

17:51

things were not. were As you

17:54

said, he's very very It's

17:56

a very easy conversation to

17:58

have. have. And I think win

18:00

the the over by results

18:02

and you know, I think

18:04

he's gonna implement a to

18:06

implement a a two

18:08

one, two. four check that's

18:11

similar to what to what

18:13

Tampa employees and

18:15

uh, you're gonna see.

18:17

the forwards up on

18:19

the play a on the play

18:21

a little bit sooner. think

18:23

And I think you're gonna

18:26

hopefully generate some offense

18:28

off of that off of a

18:30

little more five on

18:32

five offense. more five on five

18:34

He talked He talked about

18:37

What else did he, oh, just. he, oh, just,

18:40

you know, the The way he's

18:42

going to handle the coaching

18:44

staff, I mean, he knows

18:46

these guys, knows these guys, was know, he

18:48

of them up until a

18:50

couple days ago. up and

18:52

a in constant contact.

18:54

and He was

18:56

dealing with contact.

18:59

He was dealing with Mark

19:01

Eaton and, and Kyle and

19:03

Mark Bernard about, you

19:05

know, what systems, Blackhawks

19:07

were implementing with the big club,

19:09

the big has been going on been going

19:12

on in That was one question I

19:14

wanted to ask. I was

19:16

always my understanding that,

19:18

you know, the system that

19:20

Rockford was system that using

19:22

was same as the

19:24

systems that Luke had had

19:26

installed with the Blackhawk so that

19:29

when a player was called up called up,

19:31

or sent down, there wouldn't be

19:33

this massive learning curve. Is that

19:35

the way you understood it? you when

19:38

I heard when I heard

19:40

that he's going to go with

19:42

a go -2. on two, I thought that, you know,

19:44

You know, is that what? Rockford has

19:46

been running. Yeah, it's a it's

19:48

a good question. I do think think there, there

19:51

organization wants synergy between

19:53

the AHL and

19:55

NHL, I think I think

19:57

maybe as he gets to the

19:59

NHL. he's trying to find solutions to

20:01

get this team going and then and

20:04

then you implement those in Rockford or

20:06

maybe they have been been implementing it

20:08

in Rockford. I'm not sure. I'm not

20:10

as worried about Sorenson winning over the

20:13

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20:15

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20:18

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20:21

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know that the veterans in that

20:49

lockroom know the priority is that

20:51

the development of the younger players.

20:53

Like when when Jeremy Colton took

20:55

over to be the head coach

20:57

of the Blackhawks, it was he

20:59

was stepping into a situation where

21:01

he's replacing a Hall of Famer

21:03

and Joel Quinnville who won three

21:05

Stanley cops here with the Blackhawks.

21:07

and he's stepping into a locker

21:09

room that had Cain, Taves, Keith,

21:11

Seabrook. And part of the goal

21:13

at the time was to win

21:15

hockey games and to push this

21:17

thing forward. Whereas now, Sorenson is

21:19

stepping into a clear rebuilding situation.

21:21

So it's not like Pat Maroon

21:23

and Alec Martinez are gonna be

21:25

sitting there in the lockroom wondering.

21:27

Like, this guy, you know, like,

21:29

what does this guy know that

21:31

we don't? Because they know, like,

21:33

Martinez and Maroon, they know what

21:35

they signed up for when they

21:37

signed with the Blackhawks. It's a

21:39

rebuilding type situation. So I think

21:41

if Sorenson is able to unlock

21:43

the younger players, the Bedards, the

21:45

Reichles, whenever Nazar comes up, which

21:47

was likely going to be in

21:49

the second half of the season,

21:51

I think if those guys are

21:53

progressing. The veterans are saying, okay,

21:55

those guys are driving, they should

21:57

be driving play. us and we

21:59

should be able to help them.

22:01

And so I think they understand

22:03

the situation that Sorenson is here,

22:05

not purely for developmental reasons, but

22:07

if he can get those younger

22:09

players going, he knows he's gonna

22:11

translate into the rest of the

22:13

five on five game. More on

22:15

Sorenson and what he's gonna bring

22:17

to the team here. I wanted

22:20

to the. Luke

22:22

Richardson released a statement and I just

22:24

wanted to read that. I'm grateful to

22:26

the Wirt's family and Kyle Davidson for

22:28

giving me the opportunity to be the

22:30

head coach of the Chicago Blackhawks. Being

22:33

part of an original six team in

22:35

all the history it carries with it

22:37

is a true privilege. I'm proud to

22:39

have worked alongside some truly great men

22:41

and women in this organization. I would

22:44

like to express my thanks to all

22:46

the players for their effort. their commitment

22:48

and their passion for the game. I'm

22:50

also grateful to the Blackhawk fans for

22:52

how they welcome my family and I

22:54

to the city and the support they

22:57

have for this team. I wish the

22:59

team and their fans the best for

23:01

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23:30

know, Classy to to the very

23:32

end, you would expect nothing less

23:34

from Luke Richardson. For sure, I

23:36

thought about Kyle Davidson. It was

23:38

a 25 minute press conference today

23:41

that he did. And the last

23:43

question that he was asked was

23:45

about Luke Richardson as a person

23:47

and how difficult this decision was

23:49

knowing the development or the personal

23:51

relationship that Davidson had developed with

23:54

Luke being the first hire that

23:56

he has ever made. And he

23:58

started to get a little choked

24:00

up at the end talking about

24:02

how life is a team game

24:05

and if you want two teammates

24:07

Luke and Stephanie Richardson are two

24:09

of the best you'll find and

24:11

I can attest that too and

24:13

I'm sure both of us can

24:15

just I I think he's one

24:18

of the nicest guys in hockey

24:20

and it's funny because you watch

24:22

how he played as a player

24:24

and it's like he's got that

24:26

meanness in him and he that

24:28

tough guy but he really is

24:31

a guy that the players really

24:33

gravitated to especially right when he

24:35

took over as the Blackhawks head

24:37

coach like it was a you

24:39

brought a real calming presence and

24:42

so yeah I echo those sentiments

24:44

classy statement for him to do

24:46

that and I'm sure he's gonna

24:48

continue to be rooting for the

24:50

Blackhawks moving forward and by the

24:52

way He is going to land

24:55

on his feet very quickly. He's

24:57

got a lot of former teammates,

24:59

Rick Tockets, Rod Brendan Moore's, those

25:01

guys vouch for him as how

25:03

he was so well respected as

25:06

a player that any of those

25:08

guys would be happy to bring

25:10

them along on their staff. And

25:12

so I would not be surprised

25:14

if Luke lands somewhere pretty quickly.

25:16

You know, and when you look

25:19

at it, when you take your

25:21

first head coaching job in the

25:23

NHL and it's a flat out

25:25

total rebuild, you're signing up for

25:27

a difficult task because you know,

25:29

you know that your roster is

25:32

almost built to keep you at

25:34

the bottom of the standings and

25:36

in the Bedard sweepstakes. And then

25:38

you get them and you know

25:40

that the veterans you have aren't

25:43

going to be part of the

25:45

team when the team gets good.

25:47

So like you're always, it always

25:49

feels like you might be the

25:51

stepping stone coach to the next

25:53

coach, you know, and maybe like

25:56

Sabard was with. the the black

25:58

ox in the twenty ten 15

26:01

era. And really quick to follow

26:03

up on that too, and not

26:05

to make excuses for Luke Richardson,

26:07

because I'm sure there were decisions

26:09

that he made that he would

26:11

like to take back or he

26:13

would redo. But when he got

26:15

hired to be the Blackhawks head

26:18

coach, he didn't really have a

26:20

coaching tree around him to bring

26:22

some of his guys. So when

26:24

he came to Chicago, Kevin Dean

26:26

was a terrific hire coming from

26:28

Boston and the Bruce Cassidy. So

26:30

that was like a built-in guy

26:32

to run the defense. but the

26:34

Hawks kept Derek King on the

26:36

staff who came from Rockford and

26:39

then they brought over Derek Plant

26:41

who was the Minnesota head coaching

26:43

college. And so neither King nor

26:45

Plant had that NHL experience. And

26:47

those guys are well respected inside

26:49

the organization, but it's almost like

26:51

it was probably difficult for Luke

26:53

to not to have some more

26:55

NHL experience on the staff to

26:58

lean on in situations where. he's

27:00

trying to find the ropes himself,

27:02

especially during a rebuild that can

27:04

be really difficult when you're trying

27:06

to emphasize development, but also trying

27:08

to get some winds out of

27:10

the group. And so I just

27:12

kind of wanted to lay that

27:14

out there as well, that, you

27:16

know, I'm sure as his coaching

27:19

tree evolves who have more of

27:21

his guys, but kind of just

27:23

to contextualize the situation that he

27:25

walked into as well. Yeah, and

27:27

I wonder if. you know he

27:29

looked at this team obviously playing

27:31

20 plus years over a thousand

27:33

games as a stay at home

27:35

defenseman he looks at the game

27:38

through a defenseman's eye and Kevin

27:40

Dean does the same and I

27:42

wonder if you know the one

27:44

Achilles heel that the that this

27:46

coaching staff lacked in was was

27:48

that offensive guru or somebody to

27:50

really lean on offensively because the

27:52

team did improve defensively from last

27:54

year to this year and you

27:56

know where they didn't improve was

27:59

offensively five on brings

28:01

a really interesting skill set

28:03

and resume to the table.

28:05

You talk about a full

28:07

circle moment. He was with

28:10

the mission for a few

28:12

years in a developmental role.

28:14

Then he went to Sweden

28:16

for a couple of years

28:18

where he coached the likes

28:21

of a willy Nelander. And

28:23

then he came back. in

28:25

a development role for the

28:27

Blackhawks that became the head

28:29

coach of Rockford and has

28:31

now become the interim head

28:34

coach for the Chicago Blackhawks.

28:36

I think when he was

28:38

with the mission, they were

28:40

at seven bridges, but there

28:42

may have been a little

28:44

little. time that he spent

28:47

at Fifth Third Arena. If my

28:49

math is correct and the years

28:51

line up, but you talk about

28:53

a full circle moment, he's back

28:55

now and he's on the big

28:57

boy side of that spectacular Fifth

28:59

Third Arena. Yeah, it's got to

29:01

be pretty cool for him. And

29:04

just the way he's elevated in

29:06

the ranks too, how it's gone

29:08

from like Jeremy Colleton got, he

29:10

was the head coach and so

29:12

Sorenson was the assistant on Jeremy

29:14

Colleton staff in Rockford. Then Jeremy

29:16

goes to the NHL and Derek

29:18

King gets promoted to the head

29:21

coach in Rockford. Sorenson stays on

29:23

the staff. Then Derek King takes

29:25

over for Jeremy Colleton as the

29:27

interim. head coach on the Blackhawks

29:29

on your Sorenson steps into an

29:31

interim role with the Rockford Ice

29:33

Hogs, then keeps that job. And

29:35

now he steps into the Blackhawk

29:37

situation as the interim head coach

29:40

with their king as an assistant.

29:42

Now when he was the assistant

29:44

on his staff in Rockford, it's

29:46

just kind of funny just the

29:48

how he's got to this point

29:50

and all the layers around him.

29:52

Thoughts on the decision? It sounds

29:54

like the hawks are gonna wait

29:56

to the summer to do the

29:59

full blown curt coaching search. they're

30:01

gonna give, so Kyle Davidson confirmed

30:03

that Sorenson is gonna have the

30:05

rest of the year to, whether

30:07

it's audition or whatever. I would

30:09

be a little surprised if Soren,

30:11

Sorenson got the job full time.

30:13

I just think the Hawks would

30:15

be better equipped to get an

30:18

experience head coach. Having said that,

30:20

I think Sorenson is an asset

30:22

to the Blackhawks organization for his

30:24

developmental background. So it's gonna be

30:26

this. they're gonna have to try

30:28

to tow the right line of

30:30

wanting, of how they're gonna navigate

30:32

that at the end of the

30:35

year. How do you see that

30:37

shaking out? I kind of have

30:39

thoughts on that afterwards too. Yeah,

30:41

well, like, you know, you could

30:43

argue right now that Rockford is

30:45

at a really critical time for

30:47

this, this franchise because you

30:50

could think that there's maybe

30:52

two players that are currently

30:54

on the Blackhawks that are

30:56

big picture are going to

30:59

be a part of this

31:01

team when they're in the

31:03

championship window. And that's Bedard

31:05

and Alex Vlasic. uh... and

31:07

you look at the job

31:10

that that anders was doing

31:12

in doing down in rockford

31:14

and that more of the

31:16

draft equity and prospects that

31:18

the the hawks have gathered

31:21

over the last few years

31:23

and will gather in the

31:25

upcoming draft are making their

31:27

way up to to rockford

31:29

so your uh... you're

31:32

taking him away from

31:34

a very important place

31:37

to this organization at

31:39

a critical time, but

31:42

you also have a

31:44

generational player and a

31:46

team that's at an

31:49

important stage of his

31:51

career. And I think

31:54

the priority is to

31:56

get that group get

31:59

them back on track

32:01

and get, namely, Connor

32:04

Bedard on track. And

32:06

so Anders will have

32:08

that opportunity and we'll

32:11

see what comes of

32:13

it. I mean, this

32:16

team has gone with.

32:19

new coaches now, what, their

32:21

last four hires? Yep. So,

32:23

I mean, a couple of

32:25

them have been by default

32:27

because the interim, but yeah,

32:29

the last four coaches have

32:31

all been first year. Yeah,

32:33

we'll see, you know, I

32:35

think, and the whole dynamic

32:37

of like, you know, Derek

32:39

King once being his boss,

32:41

then he takes his job

32:44

when Derek comes up to

32:46

be interim head coach of

32:48

the Blackhawks, and now he's

32:50

an assistant while Anders is

32:52

the interim head coach. Yeah,

32:54

it sounds crazy, but if

32:56

you're around hockey, it's not

32:58

so crazy. they drove to

33:00

work together on Friday, Derek

33:02

King and Anders. And so

33:04

if you thought that there

33:06

was any, you know, personality

33:08

clashes or. some some

33:11

hurt feelings because somebody has

33:13

jumped somebody in the packing

33:15

order. Think again, because quite

33:17

frankly, when Luke gets launched,

33:19

all those assistant coaches are

33:21

basically thinking this could be

33:24

the final four months of

33:26

my time in Chicago because

33:28

likely they are going to

33:30

go get another coach and

33:32

that coach will bring in

33:35

his own assistance. So

33:37

they need to pull on the

33:39

rope together, Anders and Plant and

33:42

King and Kevin Dean, because just

33:44

like all those players in that

33:46

locker room, they're all on auditions

33:49

in a way. I mean, they

33:51

can have long term in their

33:53

on their contracts, but they're all

33:56

evaluated every single day. Yeah, I

33:58

feel like the only untouchables are

34:00

Matt Meacham and Jimmy Waite because

34:03

they are elite at what they

34:05

do and they've been here, they've

34:07

been kind of the main stays

34:10

here in the Blackhawks organization. But

34:12

I'm really fascinated to see how

34:14

this coaching search is going to

34:17

shake out in the off season,

34:19

mainly because How coveted is this

34:22

job going to be at this

34:24

stage? You know, like, you figure

34:26

by next summer, not this coming

34:29

summer, but next summer, it would

34:31

be the year that the window

34:33

would slowly start to open because

34:36

you figure Nazar, Lefshinoff, Kuchinsky, they're

34:38

all gonna be in the NHL.

34:40

Like I think of right now,

34:43

the Montreal Canadians. That team has

34:45

so many young players on the

34:47

roster, Nick Suzuki, Europe Slocovsky, Cole

34:50

Caulfield, Kate and Gulley, all these

34:52

players that are gonna be playing

34:54

significant minutes for Montreal on their

34:57

next great team in their eyes.

34:59

They're all in the NHL. So.

35:01

If Montreal decides to make a

35:04

coaching change and decides to bring

35:06

in an experienced guy, they're walking

35:08

into a situation where the infrastructure

35:11

is kind of already there. Whereas

35:13

with the Blackhawks, you have Connor

35:15

Bedard and Alex Vlasik as kind

35:18

of the two cornerstoneish pieces that

35:20

are like, they're going to be

35:22

here on the next great Blackhawks

35:25

team. In my eyes Pat, if

35:27

Mike Sullivan became available from Pittsburgh,

35:29

I would give him a blank

35:32

check and he was actually a

35:34

former development coach with the Blackhawks

35:36

in 2015 when they won their

35:39

third Stanley Cup in that dynasty

35:41

area. So he's got familiarity with

35:43

the organization. But you wonder, like,

35:46

there were obviously reports this past

35:48

summer when the Blackhawks made a

35:50

serious run at Jake Genssel and

35:53

he decided to sign with Tampa

35:55

Bay. So it's like, is it

35:57

too soon where a coach would

36:00

want to step into this or

36:02

would they want a couple more

36:04

years? I'm not sure. And then

36:07

you don't want the voice to

36:09

get stale at like in the

36:11

center of the championship window. So

36:14

it's got to be. a lot

36:16

of thoughts that I have, but

36:18

it's just like. You were laughing

36:21

while I was talking. It was

36:23

something going on in your head

36:25

as I was sharing those examples?

36:28

No, no, I'm just, I'm with

36:30

you. So I want to expedite.

36:32

I'm like any other fan. You

36:35

know, the word rebuild, it's tough

36:37

to hear sometimes. And when you're

36:39

in the throes of it, you

36:42

realize how patient you have to

36:44

be. And when you look at

36:46

other NHL franchises that are maybe

36:49

a year or two or three

36:51

ahead of the Blackhawks and they're

36:53

still kind of spinning their tires,

36:56

you're like, okay, you know, I

36:58

can be patient, but there's no

37:00

guarantee at the end that that

37:03

it's going to produce a championship

37:05

team. You know, look, look what

37:07

Nashville did. You know, Trotsky went

37:10

out and, and try to. pluck

37:12

all these high-priced free agents and

37:14

bring them to Nashville and hope

37:17

that they would come together and

37:19

it's been a disaster and now

37:21

you've got all these players and

37:24

they're not movable. I would love

37:26

to see this franchise go after

37:28

Mitch Marner and you Throw, whatever

37:31

checkbook you're throwing at Sullivan, throw

37:33

that and crypto and every penny

37:35

you have at Mitch Marner. I

37:38

think he would talk about jump

37:40

starting. a rebuild. He's a player

37:42

that plays in all situations. He's

37:45

a bona fide superstar in this

37:47

league. They don't come available. I

37:50

can't believe he's in the final

37:52

year of his deal and he

37:54

doesn't have a contract and he's

37:57

putting up MVP like numbers. If

37:59

you could and you're

38:01

financially, you have the luxury of

38:03

being able to overpay, where some

38:06

more established franchises that are in

38:08

the playoff mix who have superstars

38:10

already, maybe they can afford. I

38:12

would I would go after Mitch

38:15

Marner and I think that would

38:17

change. You talk about the look

38:19

to a perspective coach. That would

38:22

that would change quite a bit

38:24

about the attractiveness of the Blackhawks

38:26

job. Man, I I'm with you.

38:28

I'm a huge Mitch Marner fan

38:31

and I know that the the

38:33

postseason track record isn't there But

38:35

I just feel it's such a

38:37

it's such a different feeling when

38:40

you're playing in that market of

38:42

Toronto And why I know his

38:44

numbers aren't great in the post

38:47

but like he's also it feels

38:49

like he's taking shrapnel for all

38:51

the Leafs failures in the in

38:53

the playoffs like It's not all

38:56

on him. You know, Austin Matthews

38:58

is in year eight, nine. Yeah.

39:00

Well, how about this? Going into

39:03

this year, like literally all summer,

39:05

the talk was about should they

39:07

trade Mitch Marner, they got to

39:09

break up the the core four

39:12

or whatever. And this is probably,

39:14

I'm not exaggerating, this is probably

39:16

Mitch Marner's best season to date

39:19

with Toronto. And he's done it

39:21

without Austin Matthews, who was out

39:23

of the lineup for 10 games.

39:25

And Mitch Marner has stepped up.

39:28

And so I'm right there with

39:30

you. We're going to get a

39:32

little meatbally here, but earlier today,

39:34

Larry Brooks of the New York

39:37

Post had had posted something that

39:39

Jacob Chuba trade went down, he's

39:41

going to Anaheim. But then Larry

39:44

Brooks followed this up with kind

39:46

of a little bombshell, I guess,

39:48

that the rangers are potentially targeting

39:50

Brady Kuchuk in Ottawa to after

39:53

the clearing the calf space. And

39:55

if I'm Chicago, I'm calling Ottawa

39:57

right away because you tell me

40:00

Brady Kuch could become available. guy

40:02

that's I think 24 years old

40:04

or whatever an identity piece that's

40:06

exactly the kind of player that

40:09

you would want someone that would

40:11

be an unbelievable player in the

40:13

regular season that would also elevate

40:16

his game in the postseason and

40:18

I mean I'm sure the package

40:20

would be significant but the hospital

40:22

he's got years remaining on his

40:25

deal and you're right you would

40:27

have to it would be it

40:29

would be And, you know, like

40:31

if I had the choice between

40:34

both players, you know, I would

40:36

choose Brady over Marner, but I

40:38

don't have to give up, you

40:41

know, a king's ransom, just a

40:43

lot of money to Marner. I

40:45

don't necessarily have to give up

40:47

picks for that because he's going

40:50

to become a free agent. Right,

40:52

yeah, and we didn't mean to

40:54

go off the rails here and

40:57

try to be meatbally, but it's

40:59

more so like if you want

41:01

to make this a coveted job

41:03

by this summer for the Blackhawks,

41:06

you can't, it's going to be

41:08

hard to sell them on. Well,

41:10

Oliver Moore is still in college

41:12

and he's might be a couple

41:15

years away and Sam Renzel has,

41:17

you know, like all these put,

41:19

you can't sell them on the

41:22

future of a couple years. You

41:24

would have to sell them on,

41:26

hey, hey, this could be a

41:28

job, the Cubs hired Joe Madden.

41:31

It's like he immediately took elevated

41:33

the group that they had and

41:35

made them like kind of overachieved

41:38

the first year that he came.

41:40

It's like a really good coach

41:42

like a Mike Sullivan or whoever

41:44

could like can kind of close

41:47

that gap quicker than if you

41:49

kind of just say, oh, we

41:51

can just bring a normal head

41:54

coach here and we can kind

41:56

of grow at the time. So

41:58

so that's kind of I'm getting

42:00

at, like, it's gonna be curious,

42:03

I'm gonna be interested to see

42:05

how this coaching surge goes and

42:07

how coveted this job will actually

42:09

be to some of the prominent

42:12

NHL head coaches currently that either

42:14

lose their jobs over the summer

42:16

or are kind of free agents

42:19

right now. And you know, I

42:21

guess I look at the Thomas

42:23

Brown situation with the bears somewhat

42:25

similar to Andrew Sorenson. You know,

42:29

Thomas is all about what

42:31

he can get out of

42:33

Caleb Williams here the last

42:35

five weeks of the Bears

42:37

season and in all likelihood

42:40

they're gonna do an exhaustive

42:42

search and he'll be part

42:44

of the mix but we'll

42:46

see depending on these final

42:48

five games if he's a

42:50

legit candidate or just somebody

42:52

that they're mildly considering. I

42:55

think Sorenson is the same

42:57

thing. And I think a

42:59

lot of his future is

43:01

attached to 98, Connor Bedard.

43:03

And so if we see

43:05

Bedard find his game again

43:08

and we see this team

43:10

improve in five on five

43:12

scoring or just generate more

43:14

opportunities. get more power plays

43:16

because while they do have

43:18

a great power play percentage,

43:21

you know, there's been stretches

43:23

of this season where they've

43:25

gone five games in a

43:27

row, which is one power

43:29

play in each game. So

43:31

if he elevates this team

43:33

offensively. Yeah, I think

43:36

he would, I think the

43:38

fact that it's a young

43:40

ascending team and it's about

43:43

development, that would bode well

43:45

for him because of what

43:47

he's done at the Rockford

43:49

level and seemingly what he's

43:52

done in his tryout here

43:54

with the Blackhawks. If this

43:56

team just kind of meanders

43:58

like it has and it

44:01

finishes, you know, in the.

44:03

three or four of the

44:05

standings, I think that exhaustive

44:08

search, I think you do

44:10

the exhaustive search anyways because

44:12

you never know who's available.

44:14

And I think coaching matters

44:17

in the National Hockey League.

44:19

You know, yeah, there are

44:21

bumps. We've all seen it.

44:23

Edmonton had a bump last

44:26

year. The blues have had

44:28

a bump since Monty joined

44:30

them. It happens all the

44:32

time every year. But it

44:35

also, when you watch, and

44:37

again, we're gonna on all

44:39

these different tangents, watch the

44:41

road to the winter classic

44:44

and watch how Monty commands

44:46

a locker room. I do

44:48

think there is something that

44:51

you can you can pull

44:53

away from these behind the

44:55

scene shows and it's it's

44:57

about how a coach communicates

45:00

with his players and to

45:02

me. there are a

45:04

lot of pretenders and you

45:06

know coaches that when I

45:08

watch these types of behind

45:10

the scene shows I'm like

45:12

wow that if I had

45:14

to hear that 82 nights

45:16

out of the year I

45:18

don't know if I go

45:20

run run run through that

45:22

the wall forum but when

45:24

I see it done and

45:26

it inspires a group together

45:28

I'm like Wow, that guy

45:30

looks different. And I see

45:32

it the same way when

45:34

I'm watching Hard Knox, like,

45:36

they're doing the AFC North.

45:38

And, you know, because the

45:40

Pittsburgh Steelers have never, you

45:42

know, been a colossal failure

45:44

in forever, they're never on

45:46

the, you know, the pre-season

45:48

one. So they're on in

45:50

this one. If you thought

45:52

you liked Mike Tomlin, watch

45:54

this show. You will love

45:56

you some Mike Tomlin. there

45:58

is no by accidents or

46:01

coincidence that that franchise has

46:03

not had a losing season

46:05

under him in 18 years.

46:07

And I think the same

46:09

thing goes when you watch

46:11

these other NHL types of

46:13

behind the scenes. So the

46:15

way, you know, Anders communicates

46:17

with us is the way

46:19

he, I think we saw

46:21

it during practice today. Like

46:23

he stopped practice when he

46:25

didn't like the way they

46:27

were doing a certain drill

46:29

and he's like, don't stop,

46:31

boom, delivers what he wants,

46:33

let's start it back up.

46:35

Players want to be coached,

46:37

even the greatest of all

46:39

players. They want to be

46:41

coached, and they want to

46:43

be coached hard at times.

46:45

And so the Blackhawks will

46:47

see what they have in

46:49

Sorenson. And when this season

46:51

is over, I do think

46:53

it is an attractive job.

46:55

I think it could become

46:57

even more attractive if you

46:59

add a significant piece like

47:01

we mentioned, a ketchup or

47:03

a marner. 100% agree and

47:05

to add on to that

47:07

what you were saying when

47:09

I was watching that Amazon

47:11

series and I was watching

47:13

those Paul Maurice videos in

47:15

the side the lock room

47:17

and on the bench I'm

47:19

like oh man yeah that

47:21

guy commands that room yeah

47:23

and and like It's

47:26

just like, it's not by accident that

47:28

these teams are like Craig Beroubi. It's

47:31

not, you know, like, he's turned that

47:33

Toronto team around. They're playing a different

47:35

brand of hockey, a brand of hockey

47:37

that's gonna translate come playoff time seemingly.

47:39

Yeah, I think the dangerous part about

47:41

going for an inexperienced head coach is

47:43

you try talking yourself into finding the

47:45

next John Cooper or the next Jared

47:47

Bednar and those are like the exceptions,

47:49

right? And so if there is a

47:52

head coach that becomes available over the

47:54

summer, that would be a really good

47:56

fit for the Blackhawks. And he's got

47:58

this pedigree about him. You know, you

48:00

would probably, the Hawks will probably tend

48:02

to lean that way over, you know,

48:04

the first time NHL head coach knowing

48:06

the uncertainty of it. But again, If

48:08

it doesn't work out for Sorenson in

48:10

the long, or as the permanent head

48:13

coach here in Chicago, I definitely think

48:15

he's gonna have a role to stay

48:17

within the organization, whether it's going back

48:19

to Rockford or just a development coach

48:21

to continue working with the players that

48:23

he has already developed down there. Anything

48:25

else do you want to get off

48:27

your chest? We've gone on 10 different

48:29

tangents here. We have, we have. I

48:31

just wanted to echo the sentiments of,

48:34

I appreciate it, Luke Richardson, everything that

48:36

he's done for us that love the

48:38

way he was transparent with the media.

48:40

and breaking down X's and O's and

48:42

kind of disclosing his thought process. One

48:44

of the nicest guys, you know, we

48:46

had to do those podcast, those interviews

48:48

with the coach before every home game.

48:50

And I just respected how much that

48:52

he was gracious with his time and

48:55

kind of always joking around. So wish

48:57

him well. I, man, he's for sure

48:59

going to land on his feet quickly

49:01

and that statement that he released says

49:03

it all about his classiness. Yes, my

49:05

time with him goes back to his

49:07

playing days. I spent three and a

49:09

half years in Philadelphia with him. And

49:11

the same respect and love I had

49:13

for him as a player did not

49:16

change dealing with him as a head

49:18

coach. And you talk about gracious with

49:20

this time, he would after every scrum.

49:22

morning skate days, you know, he would

49:24

always graciously spend time with the TV

49:26

and the radio play-by-play and color team

49:28

and let us ask some questions that

49:30

weren't asked by the press corps and,

49:32

you know, deep-dotted. certain things

49:34

and kind get to

49:37

know him a little

49:39

bit better bit better. And

49:41

again, and their daughter

49:43

are daughter are gonna

49:45

become a grandfather in

49:47

the next year in

49:49

the next I wish I

49:51

wish know him and

49:53

Stephanie nothing but

49:55

happiness in that chapter

49:58

of their life their

50:00

life. know he was

50:02

a coach that came

50:04

on our post

50:06

game show and did

50:08

a live did a

50:10

live interviews with us

50:12

so with us. So that. You

50:14

know, that doesn't happen

50:16

in every NHL NHL

50:19

doesn't happen in

50:21

most NHL cities in most

50:23

NHL cities. know you to

50:25

Luke and again again,

50:27

hoping he he lands

50:29

on his feet very

50:31

soon we know

50:33

he will just a class

50:35

a class and through

50:37

and through So that's gonna do

50:40

it that's gonna do

50:42

it for the

50:44

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50:46

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50:50

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50:52

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50:54

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