Aaron Bartz (Odeletron, Tame Tame Quiet) joins the podcast, and this one is a real doozy! Strap in and enjoy the ride as we take you down the tortoise hole of the mind. Aaron subjects himself to a food allergy challenge, we discuss the concept of aging, Denver recollects a childhood trauma, there is controversy that almost ends everything, and more!

We also listen to ‘Bliss or a Mouse’ from the record Jeff by Odeletron which features Cameron Smith(Sur Duda, War Party) on vocals.