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Coming to you live

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from Brooklyn, New York.

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It's the 2025 blankies.

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wonderful night for

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blankies, blankies,

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blankies, who will win.

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And some of the

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possible nominees are, Oh,

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Amelia, Amelia Perez,

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affirming your gender

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and singing. Oh,

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Amelia, you ran a cartel,

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Guacamole Smell run

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a charity? I was very

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surprised that's what

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that movie's about. A

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girl gets on top

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and she grinds till

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you pop that's an

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order. When they reach

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Russian boy treat your

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heart like a toy

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that's a nora. Noor

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is a vampire now.

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I also did a

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moray for Menari I

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believe. Yes. Yeah. When there's

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white smoke it signals that

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there's a new Pope, Conclave,

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Conclave, Ray fines, leads the

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Catholic Church through changing times,

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Conclave. He sure does. I

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don't think you're ready for

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this shelving. I don't think you're

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ready for this shelving. I

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don't think you're ready for this

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because my style is too brutalistic

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for you. you babe. That was

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a respectful nod from David. I'm

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watching wicked tonight. I'm watching wicked

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tonight. I'm watching wicked tonight. I'm

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watching wicked tonight. But just part

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one. All I can say is

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that I liked a real pain.

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Yeah, that's good. He's a young

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Bob Dylan. Conquering the world of

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folk. Wants to go electric. Pete

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See, you know. He sleeps with

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the girl named Joan. Girl named

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Joan. Plot of our complete unknown.

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This is a danger zone. It's

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a danger zone. Okay, I was

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trying to find it. I got

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it. I got it. Okay. Here's

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the big one. What are the

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nickel boys? Nickel boys the school

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is real bad and real racist

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to racist to They mess kids

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around and then worst of all

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worst of all the film is

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all shot from their POV POV

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I see what they see empathy

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Okay, I'm typed out. Oh, that

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was great. That was great. Thank

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you. Now let's let's acknowledge a

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thrill ride as for the first

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year for the 10th annual blankies

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We brought in our Bruce Flinch.

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Oh yeah, that's right. And who's

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that, of course? Sean Clemens of

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Hollywood Handbook. How many of those

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did he come up with? Almost

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all of them. Okay, great. Nickel

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Boys was all on me. I

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did some adjustments on a couple

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of them. This was almost off.

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Last year he was like, hey,

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I heard you struggle to come

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up with the songs. I like

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song parodies. Feel free to activate

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me. The school's bad. Shut it

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down! I was trying to figure

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out how to fit that lyric

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in there. I was, yeah, I

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want to make it clear. Close

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the school's. Shut it down! Close

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the school's. Yeah, close to the

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schools. Right. What if you didn't

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like, you like Nickleboys because you

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don't like any schools? Yeah, right.

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Shut them all! All right, Linda

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McMahon. Hey, hello. Welcome. Welcome to

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the 10th annual. People are pointing

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out that this is actually the

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11th year blank check. Right, but

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we didn't do a blankies award

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in our first year. Which makes

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this a 10th annual, but people

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are saying, why are you talking

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about all this decade of dreams

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shit, this is your 11th. Decaded

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Dreams is all about looking back.

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Much like the 10th annual blankies,

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which are about looking back to

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2024. Right, it's like we've done

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10 years and one day and

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two days. Right. So it's a

4:28

decade. It's a decade. I hate

4:30

people listening to this show and

4:32

commenting on it. This is how

4:34

quiet. Turn it all. It's also

4:36

how birthday is work and have

4:39

always worked. Thank you. That's how

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right. And everything else. Check my

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watch here. Well, well, well, well.

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It's my birthday today. What? My

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birthday! Griffin Newman and Blanky Awards?

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Well, well, well. And what a

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great gift I got this year,

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the episode that stresses me out

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most yearly. Oh, this stresses you

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out? You get too stressed out

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about these assignments. Make these tough,

5:02

tough decisions. I'm moving things around

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still. Well, it's tough out there

5:06

to make those decisions, I understand

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that. But we of course are

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here. It's hard out here for

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an awards body. They're hard out

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there for a griff. I want

5:17

to lay. That's good. How is

5:19

three Six Mafia doing? Great. They

5:21

have three Academy Awards. They each

5:23

have a trophy. What do you

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mean? Like their last album was

5:28

released in 2008. Okay. All right.

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Yeah, but you know what they

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can do? They can look on

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their bookshelf and see an Academy

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Award. It was a deserved win

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as far as I remember. Good

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movie. I wonder if I would

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like it like it now. But

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I have not seen it. You

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know what? I actually didn't like

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it at the time. Oh, now

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I'm curious if I'd like it

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more. I liked it a lot.

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Yeah. I like the hustle. Maybe

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not so much the. You weren't

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into the flow. Yeah. Yeah. Did

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you like Hustle and Flow, Ben? Did

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you ever see Hustle and Flow? I did

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see it. You know, it's hard out here

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for a pen. It was, I liked it. I

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love a gritty movie about a bunch

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of riff-raff. Maybe the flow this time

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around can be a bunch of animals

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on a little, little boat, hustling to

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make it through. the floods. And

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you know what? I love to

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see scrappy audio production. Oh, well,

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I mean, make it make it

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work culture was happening in the

6:31

studio right before we started recording.

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That is true. Ben Hausley. We

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had a little bit of equipment

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failure, but thankfully we had an

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extra part and we were able

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to get things back on. I

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read Holt out for a second

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there. People might be worried that

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now. that Captain America Brave New World

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has come out and we as a culture

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have entered a Brave New World that the

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Rolk reference riffs might end. Never.

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I want you to know first of all

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we have maybe six episodes in the can

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where we talk about red. I will stop

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thinking about him. I'm looking at him right

7:06

now. Yeah he's he's looming. He is just

7:08

above me. Our friends at Regal sent us

7:10

a red hulk popcorn bucket. You eat out

7:12

of his back? Is that bucket connected to

7:14

the red hulk? No, that is an

7:16

avatar bucket. Oh, okay. This is

7:18

literally just a bust, a very

7:20

detailed bust of that whole garrison

7:23

forward and there's a slot in

7:25

his back and you can reach

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him. Oh, God, that's, God does not

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approve of that. Hey, our guest today.

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Hey, return to the show for the

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tenth time? Getting better with age. Getting

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better with age. Yeah. Co-host of this

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has Oscar Buzz? Yes. Had. Oscar

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Buzz. This had Oscar Buzz. But you

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know, today we'll talk about things that

7:45

also had Oscar Buzz, and this has

7:47

Oscar Buzz. Came to be or not. He's

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also the godfather of the

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Cinematrix. That's true. Indeed am.

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Godfather. Speaking of things that are

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turning one. Hey, today is also

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the birthday. I said last. Last year

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when I recorded The Blankies was the

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very first day that Cinematrix went live.

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Everything's happened. Joe Reed, aka Reading Ranger.

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Thank you. A nickname that I solely

8:09

uphold. The only person to call me

8:11

that, and you know what? I appreciate

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it. Hey, that's what I'm here for?

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Guys, was 2024 a weird year for

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movies. Nah, you know. I'm just, I'm

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thinking about this. I'm thinking for the

8:22

first time. Yeah, it was weird, right?

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It was a odd one. Very odd

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year for life. You know what? That's

8:29

a good way of framing it. Bit

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of an odd year for movies. Why

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was it? I guess the strike, you

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know. I think a lot of it

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is. A lot of weird stuff got

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kind of like gummed up. A lot

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of it's a strike. A lot of

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it's a strike. The studios foolishly, hubristically

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thought they could avoid and then went

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on so much longer than they thought.

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that when machines started up it was

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just like we have to finish five

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temples and everything else was just kind

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of like backlogged you also hear all

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these stories of just nothing getting fucking

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greenlit anymore and during the strike there

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was a lot of talk of like

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indie waivers well the Indies get to

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go right but what people don't know

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I had good friends who were ready

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to make a feature And the strike

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happened and I was like, well, can't

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you guys go can't you get an

9:20

indie waiver? And they were like, the

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indie waiver list is so fucking backed

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up. Oh, wow. Right, especially because all

9:26

these stars were like, get me on

9:28

an indie. A24 got a couple things

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through the pipeline, you know, like there

9:33

were things that happened, but like they

9:35

needed to be one by one approved.

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And so even the indie offerings were

9:40

backed up. And A24 had about. 12

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movies this year that you were like,

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well, this is probably going to be

9:46

an Oscar contender. They had a weird

9:48

year. They're all competing with the inside

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the same house. They had a weird

9:53

year and then they just bought something

9:55

at the last minute and just put

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everything on that. Yeah. Venice, I think,

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right? Yeah, you're right. Yeah, both. Whatever.

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Who knows? Everything. It was a weird

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year. I mean, that is the number

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one reason, and also we've, like, as

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we talk about every year, the last

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10 years have been very transformative for

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the Oscars. And you now basically have

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this body that's like at war with

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itself. And it's like, every year, swinging

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back and forth on what it is?

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Yeah. They're so, they're so international. They're

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so international. They're so international. The Oscars

10:26

are much more an extension of CAM

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than they used to be. Younger and

10:30

Artier and that you still have old

10:32

Fuddy Duddies and sometimes you have a

10:35

movie that seems like a critic's darling

10:37

arthouse festival play that then comes out

10:39

bombs and then the Fuddy Duddies reclaim

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it. One of the weirdest award season

10:44

arcs of all time in my opinion?

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Yes. Especially in the fact that like,

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it seemed at times that like... Do

10:50

you even know what you like about

10:52

this movie? Like, because I don't know

10:55

if you necessarily do. But like, Netflix

10:57

definitely thought buying Amelia Perez, this is

10:59

at least, uh, anatomy of a murder,

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best case, uh, parasite. They didn't think

11:03

we're, we're greenbook this year. Right, right?

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Well, because it was like, it, listen,

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it's on the cutting edge of, you

11:10

know, we are being radically inclusive and

11:12

we are telling it's a trans musical

11:14

drug cartel it's in Mexico it's all

11:17

it's international yada yada yada and every

11:19

little element of this component communities we're

11:21

like don't want it just to be

11:23

clear we're talking about hot frosty yeah

11:25

we're talking about hot frosty yeah we're

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talking about hot frosting Netflix as risky

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as bet do you like a pea

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pea so I saw it last night

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I saw it last night I saw

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it last night I've been putting it

11:39

off last night It's very French. I

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didn't. It is a very French movie.

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I didn't despise it. No. I don't

11:45

know if that's because I have seen

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it so late in the bell curve

11:50

that my expectations were. most offensive, incompetent

11:52

and coherent movie ever made. It's a

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really bad musical and I really don't

11:56

like that about it. It is a

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disastrous musical. You could do a subcategory

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this year of like the broken musicals

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of 2024. Amelia Perez, Joker Follietta, and

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Milana Two are like three musicals in

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crisis where it's like you can't figure

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out why you're a musical. Yeah. I

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think Joker Two comes out the best

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out of those three. As a musical

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or as a movie. Both. Wow. Wow.

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Wow. Wow. Okay. David's making a stinky...

12:21

I would take Amelia Perez. I don't

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like Amelia Perez more than Joker probably

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a dude. Watching Amelia Perez made me

12:27

respect Follya De even more. Have you

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seen Moana too? The songs are so

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fucking bad. I know. I waited until

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the Oscar nominations and then it didn't

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get any and I was like that's

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a movie I do not have to

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see this year. I complained that Follya

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De. Todd Phillips didn't have enough conviction

12:45

to really like own the cinematic language

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of it being a musical and then

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watching Amelia Perez I'm like he went

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for it much harder than Odiard did

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that's the movie that feels embarrassed to

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be a musical in a way that

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is wish to me well perfunctory more

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than maybe embarrassed I just think they

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don't know how to sing right that's

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like the major issues that the songs

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are bad and the numbers aren't shot

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in any sort of like There's a

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couple of examples. I disagree with that.

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I think they're two. Yeah. Yeah. Joker

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falling just stinks. The songs are so

13:18

poorly chosen. I will not get on

13:20

board with the like reclamation of that

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movie. It's so annoying to me. It's

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such a dull fucking movie. I have

13:27

like it's better than Amelia Perez. That's

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better than Amelia Perez. It's at least

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an original musical with songs written to

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match a plot. I'll give it that.

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I can give it that. I don't

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like that movie. I think it's also

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dull. For a movie that's like so

13:42

bananas, I found it like dreary, especially

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the last half. I think I just

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committed harder to the songs in the

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intro to the blankies than Amelia Perez

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does to its musical numbers. The actors

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can't sing music. That's not the issue.

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That's not the only problem. There are

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10 issues. That's, but I mean, I'm

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just with the music, I'm just kind

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of like. It felt like watching the

14:04

music part of the cut of I'll

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do anything. Right, right. You could lift

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this and the movie plays the same.

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Oh God. For Amelia Paris, yes. Yeah.

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This was Aquaman's take, which I think

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is really dead on, where he's like,

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it's single biggest issue in a lot

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of ways, is it's like complete failure

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to Aside from their not being good

14:24

songs, not being well-stated, not being well-stated,

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rather than like plot movers. They are

14:29

just stating things. Like it's not the

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classic, the fundamental, like musical should be,

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this is the only way to express

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a thing that narratively pushes the plot

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forward. And the musical numbers are just

14:40

characters restating things without any charm. I

14:42

also just think. Which is what I'll

14:44

do anything feels like. It felt like

14:46

watching that. It's so weird that that

14:48

movie got fucking 13 Oscar nominations. That's

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mostly, I just feel annoyed that I

14:53

had to discuss that movie at all.

14:55

Like it should have been just like,

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oh yeah, that, yeah, well, that thing

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didn't really work, did it. Okay, let's,

15:02

right, let's kind of put that in

15:04

the meme, you know, forgotten, but, Richard

15:06

Brody, I think hit the nail on

15:08

the head where he just pinpointed, pinpointed

15:11

it. It's fundamental issue being that it

15:13

is a deeply incurious movie. Incurious. Which

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I was like, that's the whole thing

15:17

for me. Incurious bastards. Right. But it's

15:19

a lot like Greenbook where I'm like,

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I don't find this movie offensive. I

15:24

find it stupid and glib. I find

15:26

the people who elevate it to profundity,

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to profundity, is Jacques Odiard. Yeah. Here's

15:30

the thing I didn't. And also a

15:33

carnival yesterday. He's 72 years old. Yeah,

15:35

man's been around. Been around. He's been

15:37

around. I spent literally like months evangelizing

15:39

the sisters brothers though because we realized

15:41

it. I love that movie Oscar Buzz

15:44

and I was like I fucking love.

15:46

I love almost all of his films.

15:48

And I was so high on Odiart

15:50

at that point and Amelia Perez came

15:52

along and I was like oh. He

15:55

had like 20 years and France writing

15:57

crime movies and stuff before he in

15:59

like the mid 90s starts directing like

16:01

he yeah his first writing credit is

16:03

like the 70s and I don't really

16:06

know like why he spent so long

16:08

you know like not directing before he

16:10

finally was like you know what maybe

16:12

all yeah you know like and then

16:15

like started pushing out a lot of

16:17

interesting movies he's made a lot of

16:19

interesting movies he's also made you know

16:21

A couple misfires. I'm going to call

16:23

this one a misfire. Sure, I think

16:26

that's for me. But have any of

16:28

us nominated Amelia Paris for anything today?

16:30

Zero norms, go seg. Then, admit it.

16:32

So it might appear in the category.

16:34

So luckily we do not have to

16:37

bow to the Oscars love of Amelia

16:39

Perez and discussing it too much, but

16:41

you did see it, you did your

16:43

homework. I did my homework. That's not

16:45

good. And you know, I watched a

16:48

lot of these movies. Like, 2024 is

16:50

defined by me, but like, in the

16:52

middle, my twins are born, I go

16:54

on leave, I miss, thank you, I'm

16:56

giving this for the first time, right?

16:59

I go on leave, I miss, like,

17:01

fall festival season, I miss all the

17:03

awards movies, I catch up with them

17:05

all, like, with their buzz kind of

17:07

calcified, right? You know, where it's like,

17:10

usually, you're, I'm taking the thermometer, just

17:12

like, in the movie theater, like. It

17:14

was just kind of fun. I was

17:16

like, great, this is great. I don't

17:19

have to like worry about, oh my

17:21

gosh, am I, you know, whatever, like,

17:23

am I going against the grain with

17:25

this one? I go see an aura

17:27

and I'm like, oh, it was good.

17:30

I can see how people liked about

17:32

this one, right? Like, yeah. But then,

17:34

like, other things like Amelia Paris is

17:36

me going like, okay, I guess it's

17:38

on Netflix, I guess I'll get around

17:41

to this and just watching it around

17:43

to this and just watching it, and

17:45

just watching it being like, I don't

17:47

know a lot of time right now.

17:49

This is what I have to be

17:52

doing at my time, which was Joker

17:54

too as well. So we're here to

17:56

do our Blanky Awards. Joe Reed is

17:58

here. Have we? Reading Ranger. You did

18:00

the Reading Ranger. Yeah, I did it.

18:03

Ben Hosley is here. Ben Hosley, the

18:05

great Ben Hosley. I got a box,

18:07

I got a thing of peanut butter

18:09

cups from Trader Joe's. Yeah, it's a

18:11

bold move. Yeah, it's a bold move.

18:14

Yeah, it's a bold move by me.

18:16

And we should kick off. We don't

18:18

need to do too much prelude, but

18:20

we all agree 2024. Weird year. Yeah,

18:23

here's my one qualifier. I always resent

18:25

doing qualifiers. I regret doing it immediately,

18:27

but I'm going to throw this out.

18:29

I have had a rule that I've

18:31

enforced only for myself in every year

18:34

that we've done this, that we've done

18:36

this. that anyone who has been on

18:38

the show is disqualified due to bias.

18:40

Oh, okay. So who does that entail

18:42

for this year? Well, I saw the

18:45

TV Globe was very much one of

18:47

my favorite movies. Oh, just put it

18:49

in your list. I have just, I

18:51

have exempted Jane in director and screenplay.

18:53

You do what you want. Just the

18:56

personal nominations. That was my one year

18:58

if I did. I get it. I

19:00

get it. So just read into that

19:02

snob as you will. I felt it

19:04

was unfair I put it in other

19:07

courts. My close personal friendship with Ryan

19:09

Reynolds has forced me to disqualify Deadpool

19:11

and Wolverine and also if. My close

19:13

personal friendship with the purple guy from

19:15

if. Yeah, it has caused me to

19:18

also reject his name Bloom. I couldn't

19:20

make it. Can I tell you about

19:22

movies that I haven't seen this year?

19:24

Yeah, one of them's if. Yeah, yeah.

19:27

Yeah, I also did not see if

19:29

which features George Clooney. We were all

19:31

busy that day. Yeah, somehow. If lagged

19:33

out some box office, I will say.

19:35

Like it muscle through to... It was

19:38

the highest grossing original film in some...

19:40

I mean, we fight on this back.

19:42

There's some way certainly to be like,

19:44

right? Like it's based on no IP

19:46

except for everything off other IP, I

19:49

guess. Right? Let's see. Let's take a

19:51

look, because it's like... The old box

19:53

office list. Yeah, because like wicked beyond

19:55

it being based on a musical. It's

19:57

like, you know. playing with toys we

20:00

know. Absolutely. It's based on a thing

20:02

that's based on a thing. That's based

20:04

on a thing. It's an adaptation of

20:06

a book that's an adaptation of the

20:08

original book. It ends with us crushed.

20:11

It's based on a book, based on

20:13

a bestseller, right? And it cracked, we

20:15

all loved it. I never saw it.

20:17

Did not, yeah. No, but it did

20:19

incredibly well at the box. Red One

20:22

is based on Santa Claus. That's true.

20:24

It's based on our crudest mythology. Right,

20:26

it's also, right, it's also based on

20:28

quality, the notion of a high quality

20:31

product. Red One's following just short of

20:33

a hundred million domestic domestic is very

20:35

funny. You know what I hadn't been

20:37

keeping keeping track? Because I gave up

20:39

at some point, I was like, fuck,

20:42

it's going to cross it, that sucks.

20:44

I'm really happy it's stalled out. It's

20:46

like, it's right, 97. The other one

20:48

that's stalled out that I kind of

20:50

feel bad about stalling out is Nasparatu,

20:53

because that got up to 95. It's

20:55

still in theaters. It's going to need

20:57

to like get an infusion of something

20:59

to get to a good voice. It

21:01

will never get old. Has anyone called

21:04

a dead Nosferatu sounds like water? That

21:06

it is dramatic water. You, you, uh,

21:08

what's what I want to say? My

21:10

intrigues don't work on me or any

21:12

money. No money no part. No drives

21:15

for sale. I would buy a ticket

21:17

to Nosferato though. That's just a- Nosferato.

21:19

Reddy boy. Zibulba cannot be beaten. I

21:21

wish Nosferatu. I wish the graph we're

21:23

like complaining about Sobolu. I got so

21:26

much money on that motherfucker. Say Bulba.

21:28

Oh boy. You know what's funny? What?

21:30

Subulba? Subulba is really funny. Has someone

21:32

who spends too much time doing Blado

21:35

comedy? Do you for a comeback? Subulba?

21:37

Let's bring him back? I really, you

21:39

know what? I thought it was brave,

21:41

but Brian Cox in that interview to

21:43

say that it's time to uncance Subulva?

21:46

Wait. Yeah, no. Who did Brian Cox

21:48

actually want to talk to? He won't

21:50

stop saying it. He's done it five

21:52

times in the last two times in

21:54

the last two months. He's in the

21:57

last two times in the last two

21:59

months. Look, I know he had his

22:01

weirdness, but Subob was one of the

22:03

great pot races. I do have a

22:05

wado question for you. Please. Are you

22:08

taking care of your voice? That's a

22:10

lot of... It's a really well-trained muscle

22:12

at this point. It sounds like it

22:14

would hurt. The answer is that at

22:16

this point I don't... I have found

22:19

a modified version that is easy to

22:21

sustain. Okay, good. Right? So I'm glad

22:23

to hear about this. Wado in the

22:25

movie is like... I have no money,

22:27

no parts. Like that tension would hurt

22:30

to do for two hours. That

22:32

sounds like a nodule. That's why

22:34

I don't do that. That's why

22:36

I'm like, hello, welcome to

22:38

the Georgia. It's much more

22:41

triumphed. I've gotten good at

22:43

how to do it. Hey, let's

22:45

start out. Best supporting actor. Let's

22:49

mention that Nosferatu is hosting the

22:51

awards. Usually we have the past

22:53

winners present this year. But it's

22:55

five. It's five Nosferatu is coming

22:57

out to present each. individual numbers.

22:59

Can we present, can we say

23:02

who our winners were last year?

23:04

Can we pull that up? Can

23:06

we pull that up? Can we

23:08

pull that up? 100% sure that

23:10

we can. But don't we usually

23:12

start with like a sporting actor

23:14

or whatever? Yeah, so I'm saying

23:17

why don't you pull up our

23:19

supporting actress? I'm going to. I

23:21

appreciate this. Oh, so you want

23:23

to know who won sporting, right,

23:25

who the, so best sporting, who

23:27

is Julianne more from May December,

23:29

presenting your best. You know, who,

23:31

what, what's she saying? Oh, okay,

23:33

so we're getting. Oh, I'll say,

23:35

I'll say, I'll say, I'll say,

23:37

I'll say, I'll say, I'll say, I'll

23:39

say, I'll say, I'll say,

23:42

I'll say, Penelope Cruz

23:44

in Ferrari. Another person

23:46

with a normal accent

23:48

in the movie. Very

23:50

much so. I was sort of

23:52

coin tossing between Cruz

23:55

and Moore, whose performance I

23:57

love to fight for Mike.

23:59

guys. There you go. Best

24:01

supporting actor in a motion picture.

24:04

Supporting, supporting, supporting actor. And

24:06

I'm just, I'm ready for right out

24:08

the gate, David to make a stinky

24:10

poo-poo face. I'm gonna be so angry

24:13

about it. I'm gonna be so angry.

24:15

David, neutral face please. That was

24:17

the least neutral face I've ever seen.

24:19

My nominees for best supporting

24:21

actor. Tom Hardy in the bike riders.

24:24

Okay, his face state still, I

24:26

appreciate it. Mark Edelstein, Anoraa. Maybe.

24:28

No, I think it's just, I

24:30

don't, yeah, no, you're right, you're

24:33

right. Yeah, it just has a

24:35

lot of extra wise. There's just

24:37

a lot of, a lot of letters

24:40

in there. Yeah, in an

24:42

interesting way. Right. Jack Haven, I

24:44

saw the TV glow, credited

24:46

as Bridget Lundy Payne

24:48

in the film, citing this just

24:50

for lack of, I mean, I

24:53

wondered about him because he's

24:55

sort of. He's sort of the lead

24:57

of like the lot of the movies

24:59

that are his. It was obviously not

25:01

in it for a while. It was

25:03

obviously my least favorite movie of 2024.

25:06

You hate it. You will see it

25:08

receives six spiteful nominations for me this

25:10

year. I saw it three times in

25:12

theaters. Across the three times. I was

25:14

like, let me do the math. Not

25:17

stopwatch, but like really feeling is he

25:19

supporting her lead. The first act he

25:21

is absolutely like running right because he

25:23

really disappears for like furious. It doesn't

25:26

even really talk hour plus I think

25:28

it's firmly supporting much more so than

25:30

perhaps the person who is about to

25:32

win supporting actor at the Academy. All

25:35

right I've come around on this. I think

25:37

there is a. Solid argument to me made

25:39

that Karen Kalkin is supporting it. I

25:41

mean, it's sort of a, it's a

25:43

brat pitten once upon a time in

25:46

Hollywood, like when you have a two-hand

25:48

or somewhat sort of becomes automatically supporting.

25:50

Yeah, I guess. I think you could

25:52

almost argue that Kolkin is more lead

25:55

than Eisenberg, though, and I'm not stop

25:57

watching it. And the movies about Eisenberg

25:59

take... King Kalkin in and trying to

26:01

make sense of him, which is me

26:04

what makes the lead supporting district. It

26:06

does begin and end with Kolkin. It

26:08

does. Does it? See, the other thing

26:10

is, I saw that movie. More than

26:12

a year ago, and I do not

26:15

remember it very well except for the

26:17

only the only scene in the movie

26:19

I truly loved which involved Jesse Eisenberg

26:21

So I walked away being like, but

26:23

dinner tape up. Yeah, you were calling

26:26

you guys was gonna win best act

26:28

No, I was calling him to make

26:30

the five and I was calling him

26:32

to make the five and I was

26:34

calling him to make the five And

26:37

then I was calling him to make

26:39

the five and then I was like

26:41

who's even getting nominated? kind of everyone

26:43

settled down. Sure. Right? Like everyone kind

26:45

of settled down. We settled their asses

26:48

down. Who's presenting Joe's nominees? Joe's nominees

26:50

are for you? I said Penelope Cruz.

26:52

Penelope Cruz is coming out. I will

26:54

not be doing an accent. Weird. Weird.

26:57

My nominees, Griffin, you will appreciate a

26:59

lot of these. Mark Eidelstein and Anora.

27:01

Chris Hemsworth and Furiosa. Karen Karagoulian in

27:03

an aura. Love that guy. Love that

27:05

guy. Baker is going to be making

27:08

a fucking Marvel movie. You'd be like,

27:10

there's a Rumpold Armenian guy. Okay. Who's

27:12

stressed out for much of this? He

27:14

clicked a relationship with his life. That's

27:16

the Captain America we need and deserve

27:19

is Karen Karagoulian. Guy Pierce in The

27:21

Brutalist. and Adam Pearson in a different

27:23

man. Guy Pierce was my last second

27:25

ball. Right, I mean, that's a great

27:27

performance and I think we all love

27:30

Guy Pierce. Like right beyond liking that

27:32

performance, we're just like, it's kind of

27:34

nice to have Guy Pierce like landing

27:36

a punch. It is certainly my favorite

27:38

of the five nominees and the one

27:41

I want to win. I bumped him

27:43

just purely because... Where are we going

27:45

to talk about him? I bumped him

27:47

out of spite. Yeah, Guy Pierce is

27:49

interesting. Who are the five nominees? Because

27:52

my five nominees? No, no, no, the

27:54

five nominees. The fires, Kalkin. Yes. Edward

27:56

Norton, who I do really love. complete

27:58

unknown. Jeremy Strong, I also really love,

28:00

it's a good five in Euroboressav who

28:03

I assume we all enjoy, I like

28:05

all the, I think it's incredibly strong.

28:07

I just wanted to give the, because

28:09

my thing with Euroboressav is like He's

28:11

already hot. He's already hot. This is

28:14

the thing. God doesn't need to give

28:16

with both hands all the time. He's

28:18

already super hot. So let's give it

28:20

to. I feel bad that Mark Idlstein

28:22

has been like the forgotten one. Like

28:25

Karaguly and even at least got a

28:27

couple of things. I think Idlstein was

28:29

so good at playing his character that

28:31

everybody was like, fuck. This is my

28:33

take, but we'll get into this. was

28:36

got man your your your who's always

28:38

got normal takes right perfectly dictated into

28:40

his phone yeah with no mistakes yes

28:42

right He was like, man, you're a

28:45

Bersev's like amazing. And I was like,

28:47

really, Mark Eilstein's the one who like,

28:49

kind of blew me away. And he

28:51

went, yeah, but isn't that just Baker

28:53

finding some kid who's just like this?

28:56

Which I guess is Baker's reputation, right?

28:58

Totally. And I kept hearing people say

29:00

that. And Tim is such a great

29:02

actor and such a good judge of

29:04

his wheelhouse. And I thought it was

29:07

like kind of the most electric. like

29:09

a new to me performance I have

29:11

seen in a very long time. Yeah,

29:13

and the whole movie runs on the

29:15

peaks and valleys of just. Yeah, it

29:18

runs on Duncan. Yeah, but there probably

29:20

was a lot of Duncan. Yeah, jokes,

29:22

jokes aside. Yeah, they were probably done.

29:24

That Brighton Beach Duncan was a dump

29:26

in context, I think. But yeah, no,

29:29

the whole movie hinges on being like,

29:31

I can't figure this guy out. Is

29:33

he for real? We love it. So

29:35

my five nominees. Moritz here, oh God,

29:37

she comes out and everyone's thing. God,

29:40

she's so good. We take her for

29:42

granted. Wasn't she good in something this

29:44

year? I feel like I just saw

29:46

her pop up in something again. Wait,

29:48

I think you're right. What, what did

29:51

Moritz? Mr. Tierney just popped up in.

29:53

I was very excited to see your

29:55

pop-up in something. What was Mayor Tierney

29:57

doing the pop-up in? All right, um,

29:59

Laura. I'm gonna figure it out while

30:02

you're in your job. You know what?

30:04

I just saw her in the criterion

30:06

closet and she must, well, Twisters. It

30:08

was Twisters. Yeah, you know what? The

30:10

only problem with Twisters is that it's

30:13

not. It's clearly meant to be Helen

30:15

Hudson. Well, that's true. That is very

30:17

true. But it is not, and right,

30:19

and wasn't Helen Hunt's thing, like, well,

30:22

actually I wanted to direct Twisters, and

30:24

they were like, well, we weren't interested

30:26

in you doing that. Right. So, correct.

30:28

My only problem with Twisters that should

30:30

be canonically in the movie Glenn Powell

30:33

and Martyrne have fucked. Yes, even though

30:35

it's obvious to. Right, like Glenn Powell

30:37

and Mortuary have enough chemistry in that

30:39

movie that you're kind of like, oh

30:41

I can go with, but he actually

30:44

should be like, oh I know your

30:46

mom. It's like, all right. My five

30:48

nominees are, and I'm also, just for

30:50

the record, kind of basically kicking Guy

30:52

Pearson, your reverse off out, who both

30:55

performances. Look, once again, like, it's just.

30:57

Why not take the time on these

30:59

microphones to vouch for the people who

31:01

aren't getting credit in other places? We're

31:03

recording this at the tail end of

31:06

Oscar season. But Guy Pierce would be

31:08

my winner out of the five people.

31:10

They nominate and I think all five

31:12

of those nominees are great. I do

31:14

too. I really like Jeremy Strong. It's

31:17

maybe the best lineup of the four

31:19

acting categories. And yet I think Kieran's

31:21

gonna win and I think he's my

31:23

least favorite performance although I don't mind

31:25

the performance and I like Kieran I

31:28

think the pendulum's gone again a little

31:30

bit more against him than I think

31:32

the whole you know oh he's just

31:34

he's just playing the same guy always

31:36

plays like I don't know if I

31:39

necessarily love the guy I've been holding

31:41

stock for so fucking long yeah It

31:43

will surprise no one to hear that

31:45

AB goes down and left a very

31:47

big impression on me when I was

31:50

fucking 12. I keep trying to rope

31:52

you in to do that to this

31:54

at Osceivas. Whenever you are ready to

31:56

be on to him again. Yes. Yes.

31:59

Yes. We'll figure it out. My thing

32:01

is, and I feel like I've said

32:03

this before, with Oscar performances, I either

32:05

want to see something I've never seen

32:07

them do before. I understand them do

32:10

the absolute best version of it they've

32:12

ever. done where I'm like they've never

32:14

gone this deep before. I don't buy

32:16

into the blankets just playing themselves because

32:18

it's all acting. Like Kierkork is not

32:21

playing himself. Acting is casting way more

32:23

than people total understand. He is doing

32:25

his thing which he has never had

32:27

this good of a vehicle to do

32:29

in a movie at this length. It

32:32

suffers in comparison to him just having

32:34

finished a five-year run of what I

32:36

think is the best case of his

32:38

thing, which he got a ton of

32:40

awards for. So there's just the point

32:43

of the end though. He was undervalued

32:45

on that show for the first several

32:47

seasons. The last season really put in

32:49

front and center and he won his

32:51

awards. He went out on top, swept

32:54

the whole. It just happened in the

32:56

last year. Yeah. So there was the

32:58

part of me that's like, he's undeniably

33:00

good in this movie. I have nothing

33:02

against him. I just sat there being

33:05

like, I'm going to be blown away.

33:07

This is sometimes how the Oscars work.

33:09

Totally. in sort of prestige has led

33:11

to this thing where people get this

33:13

sort of like, halo effect win of

33:16

like McConaughey being pushed over the edge

33:18

in the Dallas Buyers Club year because

33:20

of true detective. Even a performance that

33:22

I really love like Regina King and

33:24

Beale Street was the culmination of her

33:27

being like great on like four or

33:29

five TV shows leading up to that.

33:31

And I feel like there's another one

33:33

I'm forgetting recently, but yes. It's starting

33:36

to happen more or more. David. Yes.

33:38

Don Johnson, Rebel. That's been an iron

33:40

lock for you for like six months.

33:42

That's a good fucking performance. Yeah. Brian

33:44

Tyree Henry and the fire inside. It

33:47

performs that when I saw it, I

33:49

was kind of like, I think this

33:51

could like waltz to an arm. I

33:53

know partly a strong field. Yeah. Partly

33:55

I feel like the film kind of

33:58

getting a raw deal in its release

34:00

and stuff, like did well of festivals,

34:02

but then like. You know, it kind

34:04

of gets lost. There was festival there

34:06

was festival word for by entire Henry

34:09

and Toronto. Beautiful performance from an actor

34:11

who never ever misses. One of her

34:13

best. Yeah. Edward Norton in a complete

34:15

unknown. The one nominee I cannot leave

34:17

because that he nailed me to the

34:20

wall. Yeah, he's great. Jay O Sanders.

34:22

And he is three daughters. David, I'm

34:24

glad you did that. And I was

34:26

swinging in like a wrecking ball. A

34:28

movie I know I would love and

34:31

I never got around. And a movie

34:33

where you're like, oh, and does the

34:35

dad ever show up? And you're like,

34:37

oh, he shows up at the end,

34:39

played by J.O. Sanders. And you're like,

34:42

I bet that's good. Yeah. It's curtly.

34:44

Yeah, he's incredible and incredible and the

34:46

most incredible carrying a bathtub down the

34:48

stairs action of the year. Yeah. Just

34:50

amazing stuff. Yeah. But no, just a

34:53

performance that we're like the tiniest. Yeah.

34:55

When he and going up against someone

34:57

who's essentially playing like, you know, an

34:59

aspharote. Right. Like the tiniest like ripples

35:01

of emotion on his face. Why are

35:04

you trying to send me a couch?

35:06

Pansy. You are so mean to me.

35:08

Oh, well, now he's not a fraud

35:10

to, too? Yeah, it's a good one

35:12

to make any sense. It's a family

35:15

in Australia. It will be funny, right?

35:17

Panties, like, why, do babies have pockets?

35:19

Why, they don't need them. What are

35:21

they carrying? My winner... A late cut

35:24

for me was Javier Bardam and Austin

35:26

Butler in June, part two, a movie

35:28

that doesn't get enough acting acclaim for

35:30

its great performers. Austin Butler was very,

35:32

very, very close for me. I just

35:35

could not believe how much I love

35:37

that performance. That was, that movie blew

35:39

me away generally in terms of like,

35:41

I'm walking in going like, I hope

35:43

this isn't long. Like, oh, yeah. I

35:46

have to see this? What an obligation.

35:48

We've talked about it so much, but

35:50

the arc of Edward Norton is just

35:52

so fastening to me from being like,

35:54

he is Brando, he is De Niro,

35:57

to being like, no one has better

35:59

at playing kind of earnest, straightforward people

36:01

than Edward Norton. unlocked something and but

36:03

it's incredible I'm like he went from

36:05

being like Stanley Kowalski times a million

36:08

to being howdy-duty. Yes, but I but

36:10

like I so good at it. I

36:12

don't think you get this Pete Seeger

36:14

unless you get him in like Moonrise

36:16

Kingdom. I agree. You know what I

36:19

mean? Also he was like the last

36:21

second subman like Benet Kumberbatch dropped out

36:23

like a month before filming started because

36:25

this was a strike delayed movie. Flumberbatch.

36:27

Which like, Kumberbatch looks more like Pete

36:30

See. You could see that casting. Honestly,

36:32

he's a good actor. He might have

36:34

done a good job, right? Norton gets

36:36

the kind of like simplicity, the clarity.

36:38

Yeah. He's a guy who's really important

36:41

to me, grew up with his music.

36:43

Thought he was okay to be weird.

36:45

He did teach me it was okay

36:47

to be weird. And right, when I

36:49

heard it was Edward Norton playing him,

36:52

I was like, well, I don't like

36:54

that. Like that does not strike me.

36:56

And so I just do credit to

36:58

credit to the credit to the guy.

37:01

without vanity. I think like that's like

37:03

lovely lovely right like generous yeah yeah

37:05

no I just like that he's got

37:07

two modes now basically which are mocking

37:09

his reputation as an obsessive right self-impressed

37:12

right right blowhard or playing the nicest

37:14

guy yes yes it's amazing who are

37:16

your winners I think at the risk

37:18

of being sort of boring about it

37:20

it's Guy Pierce and the brutalist he

37:23

really just sort of like comes in

37:25

that movie and like just the You

37:27

hit another energy level with bad... Oh,

37:29

when... Hello, I'm America. I'd like to

37:31

buy you. Sutily, I might be bad.

37:34

There is... There's a tinge of plain

37:36

view in there, right? It's great, yes.

37:38

My name is Colonizer Geneside. President Q

37:40

Evil. Yeah. Yes, Guy Pierce for Joe

37:42

Reed. Mark Hylstein's my winner. You love

37:45

that guy. It just kind of knocked

37:47

me out. I was like, who the

37:49

fuck is this guy? I just thought

37:51

it was an electric and also the

37:53

kind of thing where I'm just like,

37:56

I've never seen someone like this before.

37:58

I've never seen a profuse. like this,

38:00

it made perfect sense to me, for

38:02

a character that doesn't like explain

38:04

itself, all of his behavior, which

38:06

I think a lot of people

38:08

maybe wrote off as like, he

38:10

found a guy who's quirky. I'm

38:13

like, I think that is like

38:15

very smart analysis, like behavioral analysis

38:17

of the way this guy would act out.

38:19

Well, and the way this guy sort of

38:21

learned to operate in the world and the

38:23

ways he's never, like, the parts of

38:25

his personality that have never, hardened into

38:28

like human being because he's never had

38:30

to he's just sort of been this

38:32

little like you know rich baby my

38:34

other nominees Tom Hardy in the bike

38:36

riders welcome back just nice to see him

38:38

doing fucking there's a lot of really good

38:40

acting in the bike riders too and he's

38:42

really great so not a really good actors

38:44

in it yeah okay but I thought Hardy was

38:47

great and it's like this is the guy

38:49

I was like all in on six years

38:51

ago who has kind of disappeared down a

38:53

well of Jujitsu and Venem. No, yes, yes.

38:55

And I enjoyed him in the first Venem.

38:57

I loved him in the first Venet. You

38:59

look and you're like he basically has done

39:02

no non-venem movies since 2019? Yeah, it is

39:04

a good welcome back. Yes, I like that.

39:06

Jack Haven I saw the TV glow. Great.

39:08

Move out to we all adore. Yeah,

39:10

and I love that performance. Yep. And

39:12

it's kind of like, it's another performance

39:15

that the whole movie hinges on in

39:17

terms of the whole movie hinges on

39:19

in terms of the energy. You have

39:21

this main POV character who's basing everything

39:24

off of the energy that this character

39:26

is giving and the shifts they go

39:28

through, especially their return later in

39:31

the film. I found incredibly impactful.

39:33

And has to be a little

39:35

bit mysterious, right? A little bit

39:37

unknowable. Yes. And does that very well.

39:39

Like what I look for in those

39:42

types of performances is like, I can't

39:44

pin this down, but I have a

39:46

sense that the actor has it figured

39:48

out. they're not being vague in

39:50

their choices. With Tom Hardy, it's

39:52

like... It's been bad. If you

39:55

ignore the sort of beautiful tapestry

39:57

that is venom. And like, I love

39:59

him in Dunn. Kirk but that's you know

40:01

yeah a small supporting performance in a

40:03

way it's also his last Nolan he

40:06

hasn't done a Nolan since then that

40:08

was 27 I know I know he

40:11

was the explosion and he was open

40:13

hammer that yes yeah yeah he was

40:15

just go boom it's like and he

40:18

played the revenant you're going over a

40:20

decade yeah right like and that is

40:22

like first annual blanket Yeah, yeah. Performance

40:25

that was sort of like, you

40:27

know... When's the drop? I think he's

40:29

very good in the drop. The drop

40:31

is 2014, is the year prior. They

40:34

never see you come and do that.

40:36

Like, that's the whole thing, that kind

40:38

of like, that run of like, Bronson

40:41

to, you know, the Revenent, or whatever,

40:43

where it's like six or seven years,

40:45

like, man, this guy who's got so

40:48

much so much, I don't like the

40:50

Revenated now. Warrior is my favorite performance

40:52

of his. But yes, that was my

40:55

guy. When this show started, I was

40:57

like undeniably my favorite leading man. And

40:59

it feels like he's on, like the

41:02

beginning of his elevation. Yeah. I hope

41:04

so. Is there anyone else? Speaking of,

41:06

getting back, Chris Hemsworth taking the new

41:09

male part. and Mad Max, but doing

41:11

an insane kind of inversion. Was that

41:13

always him or did he get,

41:15

did he replace? It was always him.

41:18

That was definitely always him. Tom Burke

41:20

replaced Yaya Abdul Matine. Gotcha. But it

41:22

was always Hemsworth. I desperately wanted to

41:25

play Mad Max in Fury Road and

41:27

hadn't yet popped. And you see in

41:29

that performance, I think the energy of

41:32

an Australian kid who grew up just

41:34

being like, all I want to do

41:36

is being a Mad Max movie someday.

41:39

And his lack of vanity. Yeah. Like

41:41

you feel him being totally unleashed in

41:43

that. I know some people ding the

41:46

nose and I think we said this

41:48

in the episode. I think the nose

41:50

allowed him to be freed of being

41:53

Chris Hemsworth in a way that unlocks

41:55

that performance. This is great. The nice

41:57

place. I historically approve of weird noses

42:00

in movies. the hours is number one

42:02

fan so I get it. Adam

42:04

Pearson my last nominee it's just like

42:07

it's so funny performing. It's so good

42:09

and it's such a it's such a

42:11

like unchoey energy performance because the whole

42:14

movie once again hinges on when this

42:16

guy enters you immediately go oh Sebastian

42:18

Stan could have been happy. Well this

42:21

guy is so effortless in his sort

42:23

of like Schwadavi. He can't be too...

42:25

effortfully can't be too big or else

42:28

the comedy really falls apart. You really

42:30

need Sebastian Stan to fall to pieces

42:32

over this guy who is just being

42:35

himself but like who like which is

42:37

showing showy about it because you don't

42:39

want it to be like Owen Wilson

42:42

meet the parents like oh fuck this

42:44

guy yes this guy's too slick right

42:46

you have to have the plausibility of

42:49

like If he knows what he's doing,

42:51

he's doing it really like slyly. Basically

42:53

hangs on him entering and you

42:55

immediately going, oh Sebastian Stan's character sucks.

42:58

You don't like have contempt for Adam

43:00

Pearson. You're like, this guy we've been

43:02

hanging out with is a bummer. It's

43:05

a great movie. Uh, do you gentlemen

43:07

want to run through other nominees? Oh,

43:09

uh, J.R. Sanders. I already shot it

43:12

out. Check out that movie. That's another

43:14

movie where it's like a year and

43:16

a year and a year and a

43:19

half ago. His scene just kind of,

43:21

you know, is the showstopper for me.

43:23

Don Johnson, Rebel Ridge. Would be so

43:26

easy for him. Suppressed he wasn't your

43:28

winner. Snatchit like Aaron Pierre snatches the

43:30

gun out of John Johnson's hands and

43:33

Rebel Ridge. Have you seen Rebel Ridge?

43:35

No, I still want you. You'd really

43:37

like it. Netflix, the same with the

43:40

daughters, I'll watch it at some point.

43:42

Netflix to the point of like,

43:44

Rebel Ridge is getting nominated for like

43:46

TV Awards. Like as a, it's being

43:49

considered a TV movie. Which is so

43:51

fucking dumb. Can I do my impression

43:54

of Edward Norton snatching the award away

43:56

from Don Johnson? Oh, excuse me. Can

43:58

I also just say about it happens?

44:01

because I'm the most gentle yoink of

44:03

Alta. I'm not the fierosa fan that

44:05

y'all are and that's fine. I'm gonna

44:08

give myself permission to do that. Yeah,

44:10

let everyone get angry at you instead

44:12

of pretending that we hate the movie.

44:15

Wait, do they think you hate the

44:17

movie? Go on Joe. I'm sorry guys.

44:19

I listened to that podcast and I'm

44:22

like, they're being real fucking lenient on

44:24

fucking furious. What were you gonna say?

44:26

The thing I was gonna say about

44:29

Hummsworth is. I thought he was getting

44:31

real lazy in the last few Thor

44:33

performances. And I was worried that

44:35

this was just going to be an

44:38

extension of that. And I think somewhat

44:40

like Tom Hardy, I saw him sort

44:42

of get reinvigorated by this in a

44:45

way that like we sort of like,

44:47

we kind of infused Hemsworth with more

44:49

of that like. That movie star energy

44:52

that we love bombs and the following

44:54

Tuesday announced that Chris Hemsworth will be

44:56

the live action lead of the G.

44:59

I Joe Transformers team up movie is

45:01

that real? Yeah, I mean I know

45:03

I know I know Transformers Beasts teased

45:06

that right the beast ends with a

45:08

business card that's G. G. I drew

45:10

a lot. Hollywood working so hard. Wasn't

45:13

Hemsworth the voice of right? A

45:16

great performance. Yeah, he was good. He

45:18

was locked in. Yeah, I mean, I

45:20

guess. But I was failing this guy.

45:22

He's trying to evolve. I know, I

45:24

know. I feel like there's another thing

45:26

he just announced he's doing that I'm

45:29

like, okay. Chris Henfert has tried. He

45:31

has over his entire career, worked with

45:33

major directors to make non, you know,

45:35

franchise stuff like Rush and in the

45:37

heart of the sea and stuff. And

45:39

it's just often just not hit. Just

45:41

not hit. He could just not hit.

45:43

Bad times they all royal. Big Budget

45:46

Studio movies bankrolled on his name. Like

45:48

he's not doing weird indies, but he's

45:50

doing weird studio movies, and then he

45:52

retreats back to like Men and Black

45:54

International. The other one he's doing is

45:56

the fucking live-action Prince Charming movie directed

45:58

by Paul King. Well, that sounds fun.

46:00

Sure, but I'm like... Paul. Paul! No,

46:03

I'm disappointed in all those. Anything you

46:05

want to do, I will see. My

46:07

arm's where am I? But I also,

46:09

like, I had that same reaction to

46:11

Wanka. I was like, Wanka. I'm like,

46:13

I fucking love Wanka. I'm like, I

46:15

fucking love Wanka. So, so I, as

46:18

I texted to David the other day,

46:20

if Paul King had stayed on Pennington,

46:22

maybe the pandemic would have happened. Well,

46:24

you know, it's just funny that we're

46:26

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try a different thing instead of

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53:49

We have to move on. As

53:51

usual, we're taking too long. John

53:53

Johnson, I just wanted to

53:56

say, could have played that

53:58

one dimensional? Doesn't. I'll say

54:00

this, my little cousin George, our second finest movie

54:02

critic, took him to see, maybe it was Sonic

54:04

3 and we walked, got my, I haven't,

54:06

I miss that, because if you like, it's

54:09

hard to see. When I had my fucking

54:11

dental surgery, when I was in recovery. She

54:13

blames the dentist. Well, that movie was like

54:15

in theaters out of it. Yeah, it was,

54:17

it was very close. I'll say this, my

54:20

little cousin George, our second finest movie critic,

54:22

took him to see, maybe it was Sonic,

54:24

it was Sonic 3, it was Sonic 3,

54:26

and we walk, and we walk, and we

54:28

walk by the poster, and we walk by

54:31

the poster, is that, is that, is that,

54:33

creed 4. And I said, what? And he

54:35

said, isn't like the next creed going to

54:37

be the daughter? I forgot that the creed

54:39

movies are setting up, that the daughter is

54:42

going to be a boxer. Oh, I didn't

54:44

see the last two creed movies. But I

54:46

was like, no, that's like another movie, it's

54:48

supposed to be good. And he was like,

54:51

really? Because it looks like a creed ripoff.

54:53

And then I looked at the poster and

54:55

it is Amazon MGM, who released the last

54:57

creed movie. Yeah. in the marketing making this

54:59

look like creed route. Right, I think they

55:02

totally miss all that movie. You keep bump

55:04

in lights camera Jackson down the list of

55:06

our finest film critic. He's going way down.

55:08

He's just getting, yeah, an alarming speed. Yeah.

55:10

All right, should we move on to, oh,

55:13

the blankies. Oh no, or I'll give you

55:15

the blankies after the blankies after the blankies.

55:17

Best supporting actress. Do

55:20

you want to hear who are supporting

55:22

actor winners were last year, Griffin? I

55:25

would love nothing more. Okay, well, apparently,

55:27

Griffin's winner was Ryan Gosling and Barbie.

55:29

Tell you. My winner was Awuga, Hong

55:31

Kong, get your goggles on. Colin Farrell?

55:34

Robertin, your own Killers of the Flower

55:36

Moon. Taking the 430 auto gyro to

55:38

Prussia, yeah. And Joe's winner was Charles

55:41

Milton in May, December. Three of the

55:43

big performances that year, I feel. So

55:45

who is Ryan Gosling telling us about

55:47

Griffin for supporting actress? My nominees for

55:50

supporting actress are Alicia Witt and Longlegs.

55:52

Allison Pill. in Trapp, Renata Ransva, in

55:54

a different man. Romina, excuse me, Romina

55:57

de Ugo, and I like movies, and

55:59

Michelle Austin, Hard Truth. Now what is

56:01

I like movies? I know you like

56:04

this movie. The Great Channeler. I like,

56:06

I like, I like movies. Canadian filmmaker.

56:08

Yeah. A movie that played at TIF

56:10

like two years ago and finally got

56:13

a very limited release, but is watchable

56:15

on PVOD. And is like a great

56:17

sort of. in version of the kind

56:20

of Romana Clef autobiography. Canadian Kid works

56:22

in a video story. Young man, huge

56:24

pain in the ass. Yes. It is

56:27

like, it is the, um, the incredible

56:29

kind of like response film to a

56:31

lifetime of special little guy movies. Yes.

56:33

That I grew up loving. Have you

56:36

seen it? Yeah. It's excellent. She's amazing

56:38

in it. Yeah. She has that incredible

56:40

monologue she gives in the video store

56:43

where she explains her history. It's the

56:45

best Maria Dizzya performance not given by

56:47

Maria Dizzya. That's a great way of

56:50

putting it. This was actress I was

56:52

not familiar with before and they knocked

56:54

me out. Yeah, no, I really liked

56:56

that movie. Knocked you out because he

56:59

a doctor. My nominations are Michelle Austin,

57:01

our truth, Dolly De Leon in Ghost

57:03

Light. Oh, there you go. You know

57:06

what? A late, a late fill-in for,

57:08

uh, someone else. Borderline and saying, I

57:10

consider Dolly Daley on for, between the

57:13

temples. Oh, nice. She is insanely good.

57:15

She's very good in that movie. Yes.

57:17

Elizabeth Olson in his three daughters, Tilda

57:19

Swinton in probamista. And Emily Watson in

57:22

small things like these. I'll say the

57:24

Tilda and probable mista was all my

57:26

long list and I was like, Joe

57:29

is going to cover it. I had

57:31

the exact same. And I really like

57:33

that performance. Yeah, she's great. Okay. That's

57:35

great. That's great. You're nominees. My nominees

57:38

are Anjanu Ellis Taylor and Nickel Boys.

57:40

Michelle Austin in her truths. The only

57:42

one in all three? Yeah. I mean,

57:45

that's an liable. Sophie. Arcando in Janet

57:47

Planet. Also strongly considered and left off

57:49

because I knew you. Yeah, I had

57:52

that one covered. One of my favorite.

57:54

Monica, Barbara, Phoenix herself in a complete

57:56

unknown, a movie where these guys ended

57:58

up getting the noms, but I'm still

58:01

just kind of like, yeah, for you

58:03

and your big studio Bob Dilla movie.

58:05

Yeah, but I liked it. Yep. And.

58:08

You know, it's like, do I go

58:10

weird? And do I go normal? No,

58:12

I'm just- Go weird and then tell

58:15

us the normal, you like- The normal

58:17

one is Ariana Grande Wicked, who I

58:19

really think deserves, you know, a firm

58:21

handshake for the great work that she

58:24

did in- Sure. But not even having

58:26

heard the weird one yet, I feel

58:28

confident in telling you to go weird.

58:31

I don't know, I can't- Who's your

58:33

weird? Like, you guys took my two

58:35

weirds, I will say, I will say.

58:38

Which is great. You took Alison Pill,

58:40

a performance I really like. And you

58:42

took till this winter. I mean, nobody

58:44

took her. Nobody can ever dare take

58:47

till this winter. She can't be till

58:49

the takes you. Yeah, exactly. So I

58:51

guess like at that point, I got

58:54

to go with Grande. I mean, you

58:56

know, I don't know. I mean, I

58:58

could go with like, no, I don't

59:01

know. I'm going to Grand. I will

59:03

say I went into Wicked as a

59:05

real sort of bitchy little, I don't

59:07

like Ariana Grande Grande person. And I

59:10

walked out of that movie being like

59:12

well. She's the best like she's interesting

59:14

so fucking entertaining in that movie She's

59:17

very good at the comic stuff. I've

59:19

always been neutral on her I guess

59:21

would be my yeah with my grande

59:23

take Right I know yeah, I know

59:26

yeah, I like the movie okay. I

59:28

know you do you like it okay?

59:30

Yeah. Oh the movies got it's ups

59:33

and downs Yeah, I'll say that but

59:35

like she's definitely enough She's a big,

59:37

she's a big old ups and towns.

59:40

I thought it defied gravity. I'm like,

59:42

you know, should be staying in one

59:44

place right in the middle. You know,

59:46

I'm looking at my other choices here

59:49

and it's just, you know, like my

59:51

other kind of. Yeah, I had run

59:53

out of Rhymes very close. She's good.

59:56

I mean, I love her to be

59:58

obviously love. My three people I knocked

1:00:00

off, but I was like that felt

1:00:03

like a pretty strong five to me.

1:00:05

It felt pretty locked in. Joan Chen

1:00:07

and Dee Dee, a movie I know

1:00:09

I like a lot more than you

1:00:11

do David. I mean, it's a lovely

1:00:13

performance. I thought she's great. But like

1:00:15

the movie itself didn't entirely do it

1:00:17

for me. Aila Brown and Furiosa, who's

1:00:19

young Furiosa. One of those things I'm

1:00:21

like, right, is that a great performance?

1:00:23

Is that just great direction of a

1:00:25

kid? Because she's so quiet and intense.

1:00:27

And yeah, she's good. Here's what I

1:00:29

thought about, like, Sophie Thatcher or Chloe

1:00:31

East and Heretic. Both of them are

1:00:33

good. But they're both kind of the liens.

1:00:35

You know, like it's, you know, so I

1:00:37

couldn't really. Can I throw out the one

1:00:39

I couldn't quite justify, but I was seriously

1:00:41

considering. I think Zoe Deutsch

1:00:43

in juris in juror number two. is

1:00:46

one of the best making something out

1:00:48

of nothing performance. She's really working with

1:00:50

very little. She is working with very

1:00:52

long. And I love her. I'm in

1:00:55

the bag, but it's like such a

1:00:57

stock character. You know that Eastwood's

1:00:59

giving her half a take. And

1:01:01

she's playing. That was his direction

1:01:03

for her in a scene. And

1:01:05

he's doing that in the middle

1:01:07

of the time. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Into

1:01:09

a microphone. Right. You, I just

1:01:11

think she is playing an internal

1:01:13

conflict. Just mean with her and

1:01:15

Tony Collette is better than it

1:01:18

needs to be. Yeah. I had a

1:01:20

hard time sort of figuring out what

1:01:22

I wanted to do with the three

1:01:24

actresses and his three daughters. A movie

1:01:27

that I really loved. Like loved, loved.

1:01:29

Yeah, it's a good movie. And they're

1:01:31

all good. And they're all good. Cune

1:01:33

is undeniably a lead and I think

1:01:36

Leon is a lead. Olson is the one

1:01:38

where I'm kind of like she's sort of

1:01:40

more supporting. The Julian Moore in the hours

1:01:42

where it's like the less the less of

1:01:45

equals. Or the Chilean Woodley and Big Little

1:01:47

Lies where you're like she's like a weed

1:01:49

but she is the sort of the sort

1:01:52

of thinnest arc I guess. Yeah but when

1:01:54

she has her couple moments in that movie

1:01:56

she really nails it. As a spoiler head

1:01:58

I had similar issues. She was with

1:02:00

the Enora guys and also the three

1:02:03

people and challengers. Just trying to, there's

1:02:05

a lot of movies this year. Well,

1:02:07

I made a point. Trying to like

1:02:09

sift through. I did as well. Love

1:02:11

or not a rinds have been a

1:02:14

different man. She almost made it for

1:02:16

me. Lajanuellas Taylor, nickel boys, the hug

1:02:18

of the year. I mean, come on.

1:02:20

I love, I love a good hug

1:02:23

and movie. I shouted out Maria Dizzy

1:02:25

already, but like Maria Dizzy and Christmas,

1:02:27

even Miller's point is so good. I

1:02:29

like that movie. Yeah, I like that

1:02:32

movie. Yeah, and she's really good. You

1:02:34

know what? She's always good. She's good

1:02:36

in my old ass as well. Yeah,

1:02:38

all right. I think that's it. And

1:02:41

that movie just invo- I had to

1:02:43

read my old ass out at the

1:02:45

New York Film Critics Circle voting a

1:02:47

bunch. You know, like, my old ass!

1:02:49

And everyone would laugh every time. You

1:02:52

can't help but laugh. Have you seen

1:02:54

that? No, I haven't seen it. I'll

1:02:56

say this. That was a movie where

1:02:58

people kept telling me it was good.

1:03:01

And I was like, yeah, yeah, I

1:03:03

get it. Like I was being very

1:03:05

snorke about it. I know what that

1:03:07

movie is. Sure, sure, sure. And then

1:03:10

I watched in my post-dental surgery phase

1:03:12

where I was like, what do I

1:03:14

want to watch? Let me just watch

1:03:16

like coming of age movies that mostly

1:03:19

went to streaming that I missed out

1:03:21

on. Yeah. And I watched that and

1:03:23

it kind of, David Kala Doctor, knocked

1:03:25

me out. It was, it's a much

1:03:27

like wiser, deeper, deeper film than I

1:03:30

was expecting. You know what? I'll give

1:03:32

supporting actress my fifth slot to see

1:03:34

Anna Miller for Horizon American saga chapter

1:03:36

one like that and I'll say this

1:03:39

David that investment will pay off when

1:03:41

you see chapter two. Horizon and American

1:03:43

saga chapter two and she's really she's

1:03:45

got a fucking barn burner monologue I

1:03:48

love her for an actor who's given

1:03:50

bad performances and like for a long

1:03:52

time seemed like a total zero right

1:03:54

like it was like oh they tried

1:03:57

to make her happen it didn't happen

1:03:59

yeah no she's really good have either

1:04:01

of you two seen ghostly no that's

1:04:03

a movie I haven't seen because it's

1:04:05

seen I know I'm I know it's

1:04:08

gonna be good but it seems like

1:04:10

I think I think I think it's

1:04:12

the kind of movie that both you

1:04:14

would really like it's also Kelly's Sullivan

1:04:17

is the writer and co-director who did

1:04:19

a movie called St. Francis. St. Francis,

1:04:21

I loved. Oh, sure. And I was

1:04:23

on the Gotham's jury for many years

1:04:26

on their first film jury, and that

1:04:28

was a first film that I would

1:04:30

not have seen if I had not

1:04:32

been serving on the jury jury, and

1:04:35

I had not been serving on the

1:04:37

jury jury, and I love. Gentlemen, who

1:04:39

did you pick as your winners? A

1:04:41

byproduct of us now having done this

1:04:43

for 10 years as we've started to

1:04:46

develop our own internal overdue. Oh, you're

1:04:48

like, uh, right. I haven't actually given

1:04:50

the trophy, the griffy to Rex. My

1:04:52

winner is Renata Rinesva, which I think

1:04:55

is my fair performance these five, but

1:04:57

also I did just double check and

1:04:59

I gave Best Actress to Rebecca Hall

1:05:01

for the nighthouse that year. Over worst

1:05:04

person in the world. A choice I

1:05:06

defend and standby. But, uh, I think

1:05:08

Renetta Rins was so good in a

1:05:10

different man. I think the like the

1:05:13

whole movie it's another hinge performance but

1:05:15

that's kind of what I like in

1:05:17

these supporting performances the whole movie hinges

1:05:19

on him reappearing and her suddenly presenting

1:05:21

an entire different backstory and changing all

1:05:24

these details to him and the realization

1:05:26

of like what the fuck is going

1:05:28

on with her which the movie never

1:05:30

quite answers in a way that actually

1:05:33

says a ton if that makes sense

1:05:35

she plays a villain in a really...

1:05:37

It is not judgmental performance at all.

1:05:39

It is not a judgmental performance. It

1:05:42

is a very recognizable kind of like

1:05:44

familiar villainy, which is just sort of

1:05:46

like she's taking shortcuts. And she's sort

1:05:48

of, she sees an opportunity to succeed

1:05:51

in a way that sells out. somebody

1:05:53

and she's a quieter version of what's

1:05:55

going on to him which is just

1:05:57

like everyone has an idea of how

1:05:59

they could reset their life and reframe

1:06:02

themselves the way they want to be

1:06:04

and she does that in a way

1:06:06

that she doesn't understand is so fucking

1:06:08

painful to him because she doesn't know

1:06:11

who he's talking to yeah yeah The

1:06:13

blankies voters, the listeners of the show,

1:06:15

have a 10-person list for best supporting

1:06:17

performance that I will now read from

1:06:20

bottom to top. So 10, Mike Feisten,

1:06:22

Challenger. Nine, Ariana Grande, Wicked. Eight, Margaret

1:06:24

Hawley, and The Substance. Seven, Kieran Kalkin,

1:06:26

and A Real Pain. Six, Jack Haven,

1:06:29

and I sell the TV Globe. Five

1:06:31

in Adam Pearson, a different man. Four

1:06:33

Guy Pearson, the brutalist. Three, Euroboresov, and

1:06:35

Anora. And now I have to say,

1:06:37

Hell Yeah, for everybody. Sure, exactly. Two,

1:06:40

Hemsworth, and one, Josh O'Connor in Challenger.

1:06:42

Now, hmm. That's not a supporting performance.

1:06:44

I agree. A big cop-tybrow. Now I

1:06:46

know Zach got run. I think maybe

1:06:49

MGM's or not only ran all three?

1:06:51

Or do they run 10 days? No,

1:06:53

they ran 10 days lead because she

1:06:55

got the Golden Globe nomination and lead.

1:06:58

All three of them are leads. Comedy,

1:07:00

which is another conversation I need to

1:07:02

have. Vice is the one you can

1:07:04

make the argument. You can talk me

1:07:07

if you want to spread it out.

1:07:09

If you want to spread it out.

1:07:11

But Connor is on a question. We

1:07:13

can look at, you know, MGM, Amazon's

1:07:15

award strategies, a scant, but I think

1:07:18

we can all agree it paid off

1:07:20

beautifully for them checks notes here, blanked

1:07:22

at the off. Zero nominees. What a

1:07:24

fucking disaster. Well, they did release my

1:07:27

favorite movie of the year. I guess

1:07:29

I'll give them that. Yep. Pin in

1:07:31

that as well. They released two of

1:07:33

my five favorite movies of the year.

1:07:36

Okay, so let's move along to what

1:07:38

should we do? The screen plays, what

1:07:40

should we do here, guys? Fine. Best

1:07:42

original screenplay. Best adapted screenplay. I got

1:07:45

six and both, I'm gonna have to

1:07:47

make a heart cut at this last

1:07:49

moment. I know, I'm not plumbing me.

1:07:51

Right, all right, so original screenplay. Here

1:07:53

are my original screenplay winners. Then this

1:07:56

is obviously being presented by the winner

1:07:58

of adapted screenplay last year, isn't it?

1:08:00

So that would be, oh, Eric Roth.

1:08:02

Shuffling out. Perfect. Get Eric Roth out

1:08:05

there. My adaptive screenplay nominees appear to

1:08:07

be, I'm worried I like didn't give

1:08:09

this a once over. Do in part

1:08:11

two, hit man, fire inside, Furiosa, nickel

1:08:14

boys, which is my winner, spoiler alert.

1:08:16

I'm gonna stand by this. My adapted

1:08:18

screenplay nominees are Sing Sing, Furiosa, Furiosa,

1:08:20

Furiosa, Nickel Boys. the people's joker, a

1:08:23

radical act of adaptation. Right, right. Is

1:08:25

that sort of just nominally adapting like

1:08:27

the character of joke? It is undeniably

1:08:29

an act of adaptation and a movie

1:08:31

about that in a way. And my

1:08:34

fifth nominee, sometimes I think about dying.

1:08:36

Is that based on something? It is

1:08:38

weirdly based on a thought that you

1:08:40

sometimes to have. It is weirdly based

1:08:43

on I believe a one-act play that

1:08:45

is just... I can see that. But

1:08:47

here's what's weird. It was written by

1:08:49

someone else and the one-act play is

1:08:52

just about the party scene, playing murderer.

1:08:54

You know what I'm talking about David?

1:08:56

Yeah, yeah, for sure. And then that

1:08:58

got like expanded on. Sure. I like

1:09:01

that movie. I like that movie. What

1:09:03

if I spun this character out and

1:09:05

that scene becomes the centerpiece. I love

1:09:07

that film. There's a movie I saw

1:09:09

two years ago, I think, but I

1:09:12

like that moment. Yeah, it came out

1:09:14

January 2023. It's on dance. It played

1:09:16

January 2023 at Sundance. It was released

1:09:18

theatrically January 2024. Right, so even you

1:09:21

saw it a long time ago. Even

1:09:23

I saw it a year ago. But

1:09:25

yes, I give it more credit as

1:09:27

an act of adaptation because it is

1:09:30

unfurled from such a weird specific piece

1:09:32

with a couple different writers. I thought

1:09:34

that I was seeing that movie and

1:09:36

the movie that I actually saw was

1:09:39

the feeling that the time for doing

1:09:41

something has passed. A movie I have

1:09:43

not seen. The movie I did not

1:09:45

care for. OK. OK. OK. OK. So,

1:09:47

Joe, yes. Joe. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

1:09:50

Yes. Yes. Your nominee. Your nominee. Screenplays.

1:09:52

Screenplays. Screenplays. Screenplays. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave.

1:09:54

Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave.

1:09:56

Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave. Conclave.

1:09:59

Conclave. Conclave. and clothing. Congo, Peter Strong,

1:10:01

doing part two, Denny, Bill Noove, and

1:10:03

John Spence. It does sound like you

1:10:05

just sort of supposed to... Third name

1:10:08

listed here, Muab, a deep? Moa deep.

1:10:10

I was close. Nickel boys, Ramell Ross,

1:10:12

and Joslin Barnes. Sing, sing, which is

1:10:14

screenplay by Greg Quaidar and Clint Bentley,

1:10:17

with the story credit to Quaidar Bentley,

1:10:19

Clarence Maclin, and John divine G Whitfield.

1:10:21

And then small things like these, who's

1:10:23

Enda Walsh and Claire Keegan. You know,

1:10:25

I got sent that book. by the

1:10:28

swag team behind small things like these.

1:10:30

They did not. Gonna read it, it

1:10:32

hurts good. Yeah, I mean the movie's

1:10:34

great. Yeah, I didn't see. Too busy.

1:10:37

But you saw the book, the cover.

1:10:39

There it is. Sitting up my desk.

1:10:41

And who's your winners, guys? I forgot

1:10:43

to ask. Oh, first, for adapt. Yeah.

1:10:46

I mean, it's gotta be nickel boys.

1:10:48

It's a really, really interesting way to

1:10:50

adapt that book. The only one, all

1:10:52

three of us not. I think my

1:10:55

winner is People's Joker. Sure, great. Between

1:10:57

that and Sing Sing. I adore People's

1:10:59

Joker. I strongly implore people to seek

1:11:01

it out. I went to see it

1:11:03

assuming it was just going to be

1:11:06

like a fun act of cinematic fuck

1:11:08

you. And what I love about that

1:11:10

movie is it really is kind of

1:11:12

an argument for why, like, I refuse

1:11:15

to call it IP. But it is

1:11:17

worth adapting works. and reinterpreting them through

1:11:19

different prisms. It's sort of a movie

1:11:21

about like there's a reason we go

1:11:24

back to the same stories because we

1:11:26

find things that we can only express

1:11:28

through those sets of characters and it

1:11:30

makes you frustrated about how often these

1:11:33

things are rebooted in the same derivative

1:11:35

ways over and over again. But I

1:11:37

think it's like an incredible self-reflexive piece

1:11:39

of adaptation. I'm great. June part two

1:11:41

is a sneaky like really interesting adaptation.

1:11:44

And a really complicated thing. They really

1:11:46

like. Yeah, yeah, they move it around

1:11:48

in some different ways. To end that

1:11:50

movie on the note that it ends

1:11:53

on is pretty ballsy. What he did

1:11:55

with Johnny is... Yes, that's specifically, yes,

1:11:57

Johnny's character. Yep. Best original screenplay. Uh-oh,

1:11:59

Spaghetti. My, of course, adapted screenplay winner

1:12:02

last year was... No, I already did

1:12:04

this wrong. Okay, yeah, my best original

1:12:06

story one is West Anderson. So here

1:12:08

he is. Hey, look at that one

1:12:11

of the lights. My winner last year

1:12:13

was. Looks like it was West Anderson.

1:12:15

I also want West Anderson. Okay. Aster

1:12:17

City. Great movie. Joe, you went. Your

1:12:19

adapted screenplay winners, by the way, were

1:12:22

Blackberry for Griffin and Barbie for Joe.

1:12:24

You went with May December, a great

1:12:26

screenplay for original. So my best original

1:12:28

screen plays of 2024 are Annie Baker

1:12:31

for Janet. Justin Karitzka's Poetian cellar for

1:12:33

Challenger's. Jane Shumbrin for I saw the

1:12:35

TV Globe, Mike Lee for Heart Truths,

1:12:37

and Ryuski for evil does not exist.

1:12:40

Joe. Mine are Challenger's, Justin Karitzki's, a

1:12:42

different man, Aaron Shimberg, his three daughters,

1:12:44

Azazolzol Jacobs, I saw the TV glow,

1:12:46

Jane Shombrin, and problemista, Julio Torres. My

1:12:49

nominees for screen play are, a different

1:12:51

man, Aaron Shimber. Oh, that's who wrote

1:12:53

it. Okay. And hundreds of beavers. Oh,

1:12:55

who wrote that? Oh, who wrote that?

1:12:57

Well, I'm just realizing I'm going to

1:13:00

forget the names of some of these

1:13:02

people. Just keep going, I can tell

1:13:04

you the names. Thoma. Oh, well, Mr.

1:13:06

I can tell you. Thumba was, of

1:13:09

course, written by Josh Marklyn, who I

1:13:11

believe also directed it. Yes. Hardures? Oh,

1:13:13

that's who wrote it. I'm gonna make

1:13:15

the case and Ryland to use. I'm

1:13:18

gonna make the case. It is a

1:13:20

silent film. It is a pure silent

1:13:22

film. Okay. It is like one of

1:13:24

the most beautifully structured films. You watch

1:13:27

it. I heard a lot of hype.

1:13:29

I'm so resistant to this movie, Griffin.

1:13:31

This movie is so fucking good, you

1:13:33

guys. so resistant to it. No, I'd

1:13:35

like to see it. I'm like, well,

1:13:38

I don't, now I really don't want

1:13:40

to watch it. I sat there and

1:13:42

I was like, people told me this

1:13:44

is fun. It starts and I'm like,

1:13:47

is it really going to be this

1:13:49

the whole time? How long is this

1:13:51

thing? Like 72 minutes? It's like two

1:13:53

hours long. It not only doesn't run

1:13:56

as steam, it grows. There are like

1:13:58

concepts in that are like concepts in

1:14:00

that movie that are like, communicated with

1:14:02

such elegance and way to blew my

1:14:05

mind. I've seen it twice in theaters

1:14:07

now. It plays like a fucking rock

1:14:09

concert. I hope it is a movie

1:14:11

that will continue making the rounds theatrically

1:14:13

for years, because it feels like a

1:14:16

perpetual midnight movie touring thing. And it

1:14:18

is incredible to watch with a crowd,

1:14:20

because it starts basically with silence of

1:14:22

everyone reacting the way I did. And

1:14:25

then by the end, it's undeniable. My

1:14:27

worry is that watching it with a

1:14:29

crowd will make me like it less.

1:14:31

I think you're wrong about it. My

1:14:34

only question is how it plays alone.

1:14:36

Sure. My winner is Annie Baker. Who's

1:14:38

your winner? My winner is Azozil Jacobs

1:14:40

for his three daughters. It's a screenplay

1:14:43

movie. And I'm not saying that to

1:14:45

say the directing. I think I saw

1:14:47

a lot of like this play, this

1:14:49

feels like a play. And I'm like,

1:14:51

to me, I'm like, that's fine, you

1:14:54

know. That does not diminish my enjoyment

1:14:56

of the movie. It feels like grip-picking

1:14:58

beavers. I'm a little inclined to do

1:15:00

beavers. There's three other things that are

1:15:03

in there that I also know are

1:15:05

going to win a different award for

1:15:07

me. So I'm like, is there a

1:15:09

spread-the-wealth argument? I think Challenger's is a

1:15:12

really, really intelligently constructed screenplay that really

1:15:14

nails the ending, which is the hardest

1:15:16

thing to do, and that was his

1:15:18

ending, and he insisted on it. That's

1:15:21

my- I think I saw the TV

1:15:23

glow the TV glow. I was brilliant,

1:15:25

brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant. I exempt

1:15:27

it from the. I exempt it from

1:15:29

the TV glow. I exempt it from

1:15:32

the TV glow. I'm from the TV

1:15:34

glow. I'm from the TV. I'm, brilliant.

1:15:36

I'm, brilliant. I'm, brilliant. I'm. I'm. I'm.

1:15:38

I'm. I'm. He exempts it. Exempted! But

1:15:41

Annie Baker, she's my favorite living writer

1:15:43

and she wrote a movie for me

1:15:45

and I got to watch it. She

1:15:47

gets the trophy from me. I'm gonna

1:15:50

do beavers here because this is the

1:15:52

one place where I can kind of

1:15:54

make the case. That makes sense. Although

1:15:56

I will say it also should have

1:15:59

been nominated for best. original song. Oh,

1:16:01

there's an original song. Bivers! No, it's

1:16:03

not what you think. Original songs, nominees

1:16:05

are such a disaster. David, you think

1:16:07

you know what it is? I honestly

1:16:10

don't think I know what it is.

1:16:12

The score and the song in that

1:16:14

film are exceptional. But yeah, no, hard

1:16:16

truths, challenges, different man, are all kind

1:16:19

of fucking Hall of Fame or scripts

1:16:21

for me. The blanky picture that I

1:16:23

will give Rose is another place. Or

1:16:25

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1:16:27

list, brutalist. and

1:16:30

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last time was a best animated feature.

1:18:58

So let's do that again best animated

1:19:00

feature guys What a year for animated

1:19:03

features stinky poo It's a bit of

1:19:05

a tough year I've limited myself to

1:19:07

I have five The highest-grossing ones were

1:19:09

they almost the worst ones in my

1:19:11

opinion monoton inside out to and minions

1:19:14

eight or whatever. Yeah, and I feel

1:19:16

like there's another one that did well

1:19:18

that I didn't care for let's see

1:19:20

You certainly right like it's not like

1:19:22

I mean inside out to Smashing through

1:19:25

every record was the moment every

1:19:27

like the entire industry sort of

1:19:29

trendline went from like God, this

1:19:31

year's a disaster too. Like, oh,

1:19:34

I think everything's fine. Like, you

1:19:36

know, it was so crazy. That's

1:19:38

why I'm, like, I'm grateful for

1:19:40

inside. Sure. But it's also funny

1:19:43

that it was inside out too

1:19:45

that did that. Yes, yes. You

1:19:47

know, which I thought was fine.

1:19:50

I think I liked it more

1:19:52

than you. I think that would

1:19:54

be kind of profoundly doesn't work.

1:19:56

Let's see what the other big answer.

1:19:58

Two, two, two. Two fours and what's

1:20:01

the other one of the highest

1:20:03

grossing? Uh, Molone or two,

1:20:05

inside out, two, despicable with

1:20:07

me for, kind of food,

1:20:10

Vanda four. I don't fucking know. There's

1:20:12

one of the wrong we just listed,

1:20:14

I forget. I don't know, whatever. Who

1:20:16

gives a shit? Fuck you. The Garfield

1:20:18

movies up there. That movie sucks. I

1:20:20

regret to say, at a certain point

1:20:22

I was like, let me go through

1:20:25

more of the qualifying films because maybe

1:20:27

there are some hidden gems here. And

1:20:29

the deeper I dug, unless I liked

1:20:31

what I found. Garfield being a movie

1:20:33

about reconnecting with his deadbeat dad is

1:20:35

almost as infuriating as Super Mario Brothers.

1:20:38

He's a good plumber. Yeah, he's a

1:20:40

good plumber. It's almost like the

1:20:42

people who run these animations

1:20:44

through us have bad relationships

1:20:46

with their fathers. Almost like, almost

1:20:48

like. Don't respect them going into

1:20:51

animation. I'm good cartoons, Dad. Sonic

1:20:53

3 is the other one, and

1:20:55

maybe you're not an animated film.

1:20:57

I didn't see it. I don't

1:21:00

know. Joe. How dare you? I'm

1:21:02

surprised you would talk so rudely

1:21:04

about Vic. Memories of a snail.

1:21:06

Which spoiler is my winner. Flow, which

1:21:08

I admit is undeniable, but

1:21:11

also had the most ill-time bathroom

1:21:13

break of my movie going career. No!

1:21:15

Oh, but like you come back and

1:21:17

like it's the Apocalypse or whatever? I

1:21:19

came back to the Director's credit on

1:21:22

screen. Oh no! It's not a long

1:21:24

movie. No, but I was like, it's

1:21:26

hard to pin how long this has

1:21:28

been going on and then I saw

1:21:31

another wave coming and I was like,

1:21:33

oh, feels like there's maybe another 20

1:21:35

minutes left. The Wilder About Transformers

1:21:38

1. Oh, okay. Which I think is far and away

1:21:40

the best of the animated IP slop, if

1:21:42

I can call it that. Yeah. And look

1:21:44

back, which rolls. What's that? That is the

1:21:46

Japanese way. I haven't seen that yet. It's

1:21:48

like 52 minutes long. Okay. Well, sign me

1:21:50

up. Wait, that sounds great. You can watch

1:21:52

it three times. You're going to watch it

1:21:54

right now. You can just play it while

1:21:56

we do this episode. But Memoir for Snail

1:21:58

was pretty much better. It's really, really

1:22:01

fucking good. Did you guys

1:22:03

have voiceover performance nominees? I

1:22:05

can do that in a

1:22:08

second. Okay, well list your

1:22:10

animated film. But it will

1:22:12

tie to my. Yeah, because my

1:22:14

anime, it's rough. It's just

1:22:16

flow, wild, robot, both of

1:22:19

which I liked. Transformers

1:22:21

won, which I liked.

1:22:23

Wallace and Gromet movie

1:22:25

that isn't actually about

1:22:27

their relationship. And at the very end

1:22:29

it tries to pretend it is. Yeah, it

1:22:32

kind of tries to squeeze it in there.

1:22:34

I mean, but also it's like, what's there

1:22:36

to say left about their relationship? I guess,

1:22:38

right, you know. I mean, I like them

1:22:40

more than the bakery one. I loved Vengeance

1:22:43

Mostfowl. I love. I find it very entertaining.

1:22:45

Yeah. I also think it's at the exact

1:22:47

wrong size between being feature and short and

1:22:49

it kind of can't decide. I think Inside

1:22:51

Out 2 is my fifth nominee by Devote.

1:22:54

That's insane. Yeah, cool. I mean, I don't

1:22:56

think I saw any other animated movies. Joe,

1:22:58

you're three? So my three are... Oh,

1:23:00

I saw War of the Rohearim, but

1:23:02

that thing is pretty... I heard such

1:23:05

bad things about it. That is a

1:23:07

homework ass movie. Yeah. I was excited

1:23:09

for the concept of it, and then

1:23:11

I heard just the worst things. I

1:23:14

was just like, if you're going to

1:23:16

make an Ashken movie. about this Christmas?

1:23:18

Is that what it's called? I think

1:23:20

it's called this Christmas? The short? It

1:23:23

is a Netflix feature film. Oh, okay.

1:23:25

And which Brian Cox is the voice

1:23:27

of Santa Claus. I'm Santa. Ho, ho,

1:23:29

ho, ho, fuck off. And it's based

1:23:32

on three different Richard Curtis short stories.

1:23:34

That's right? And that are kind of really

1:23:36

mushed together. Wow. It's like trying to do animated

1:23:38

love actually with children. I'm going to watch that

1:23:40

next Christmas. But this is like one of the,

1:23:43

I'm like, this is like trash. It's Pat. This

1:23:45

is what I'm saying. I was like digging and

1:23:47

I was like Garfield's from Mark Dindle. Is there

1:23:49

anything? There's a reason that flow rose to the

1:23:51

top. It's like, you know, you know, there was

1:23:54

space for a movie like that to break through.

1:23:56

Like that to a movie like that to a

1:23:58

movie like that to break through. I think

1:24:00

memoir of a snail is a very

1:24:02

well-made movie that to me is excessively

1:24:04

miserable. Wild Robot is a manipulative movie.

1:24:07

Wild Robot is a manipulative movie that

1:24:09

I was very happy that. Wild Robot

1:24:11

is a manipulative movie that I was

1:24:13

very happy to be manipulated by. I

1:24:15

was like that's a good way of

1:24:18

playing it on me. I think memoir

1:24:20

of a snail is a very well-made

1:24:22

movie that to me is excessively miserable

1:24:24

in a way that I... did not

1:24:26

appreciate it. It definitely is and I

1:24:29

think it is reflective of the way

1:24:31

you and I differently respond to miserable.

1:24:33

That makes sense. Yeah, I called it

1:24:35

the A Little Life of Stop Motion

1:24:37

animation and I stand by that. Jesus.

1:24:40

Yeah. I'm definitely not watching it now.

1:24:42

I'm back to that degree of just

1:24:44

like pile it out, pile another one

1:24:46

on. Yes. Like yeah. He has his

1:24:48

thing that he does and it works

1:24:51

for me and I could see it

1:24:53

being cilantro for people. You know who's

1:24:55

great and transformers one. Brian Tyre Henry.

1:24:57

I had no idea Transformers one was

1:25:00

good. I totally ignored it. I put

1:25:02

it on the pile of things I

1:25:04

don't have to pay attention to. Directed

1:25:06

by Josh Cooley who made the great

1:25:08

Toy Story 4. Okay. Yeah, I love

1:25:11

Toy Story 4. It's one of those

1:25:13

things where it starts where it's like,

1:25:15

we're just two transformers. My name is

1:25:17

like optimist prime, you know, Berg, like

1:25:19

his name's a little different. Your name

1:25:22

is Megatron, his aunt's, or whatever, you

1:25:24

know, right? And we're just, we're gonna.

1:25:26

I get those cogs, I wish I

1:25:28

could transform miners. Right, yeah, we'll never

1:25:30

do anything. like I am angry this

1:25:33

movie has like childhood friends optimist prime

1:25:35

and Megatron. It's an origin story for

1:25:37

them although I think Transformers lore is

1:25:39

so like deep I think it's kind

1:25:41

of like a reboot thing is more

1:25:44

Transformers law is so deep is a

1:25:46

sentence that is both incredibly true and

1:25:48

sounds and say it doesn't clear I

1:25:50

don't like fuck with Transformers at all

1:25:52

I don't know what I love to

1:25:55

throw out random transformer names that I

1:25:57

think are funny but I can't any

1:25:59

of this shit? I think the whole

1:26:01

thing with transverse stuff is just like

1:26:04

no one was really minding the shop

1:26:06

right so like someone else to come

1:26:08

along be like I'm gonna do this

1:26:10

and everyone be like that's fine we

1:26:12

don't care but I like whatever you

1:26:15

has been written I like everything this

1:26:17

movie is doing here it also looks

1:26:19

good it does looks good it does

1:26:21

anyway here were my five nominees for

1:26:23

voiceover oh yeah go ahead Jackie Weaver

1:26:26

memoir of us I give you that

1:26:28

which is my winner she's my winner

1:26:30

she's looking believable believable she's here possibly

1:26:32

Maya Hawk inside out too, compelled to

1:26:34

make her my winner, I think she's

1:26:37

the only reason that movie even partially

1:26:39

works. I think her character though is

1:26:41

a huge problem, but her performance is

1:26:43

quite her performance. She paralyzes the kid

1:26:45

with anxiety. She can't play hockey! Papers

1:26:48

over the fact that the script was

1:26:50

not figured out. Right. I think she

1:26:52

plays it incredibly well. I'm gonna give

1:26:54

it after, you know, I so rudely

1:26:56

snubbed him for best actor. When you

1:26:59

guys gave him the flowers years ago,

1:27:01

and I think this is the time

1:27:03

to properly give him a sort of

1:27:05

career achievement. Oh boy a return of

1:27:08

the King style nomination for best voiceover

1:27:10

performance I'm nominating Tom Hardy as venom

1:27:12

and venom the last dance that movie

1:27:14

stuff is kind of garbage Yes, but

1:27:16

like any time he's talking I was

1:27:19

like right. This is the whole thing.

1:27:21

Yes. Do this it is. Lepida Nyongo

1:27:23

for the Waller. Yeah, really great. I

1:27:25

was very compelled to also put Pedro

1:27:27

Pascale in there who I think is

1:27:30

credible and well could not place it.

1:27:32

Which one's he? He's the Fox. Oh

1:27:34

yeah. It doesn't sound like him. It's

1:27:36

transformed. That's really good and really funny.

1:27:38

But it felt loosely do double nomination.

1:27:41

So I in my fifth slot put

1:27:43

in Robbie Williams as the narrator. Yeah,

1:27:45

probably Williams deserves it. Is that how

1:27:47

he's credited the narrator? Well, so he's

1:27:49

the monkey in it. The singing is

1:27:52

his old recordings. Right. The character of

1:27:54

Robbie Williams is voiced by the actor

1:27:56

who did the motion. Oh, I believe.

1:27:58

Oh, that I did not know. No,

1:28:00

the genre phrase is the photographer. for

1:28:03

nickel-boys who I think what's that name

1:28:05

is Johno that's why that's why I'm

1:28:07

confusing it's looking up yeah It's John

1:28:09

O something. John O. John O. Davis.

1:28:12

Davies. But Robbie Williams is specifically just

1:28:14

doing the narration, which I thought was

1:28:16

excellent. And we'll talk about that movie.

1:28:18

Robbie Williams is so overflowing with charisma.

1:28:20

Like he's so good at like getting

1:28:23

you through that movie. Like if you're

1:28:25

like, what is going on? You know,

1:28:27

like, I'm complaining about I don't know

1:28:29

who this guy is. I'm like, his

1:28:31

narration alone is explaining to you. mean

1:28:34

that he was not famous in America?

1:28:36

He absolutely what? He wasn't famous. But

1:28:38

I feel like he was more famous

1:28:40

enough to like remember who he was.

1:28:42

But famous for sort of not happening.

1:28:45

A lot of people at TIF were

1:28:47

texting me like can you explain who

1:28:49

Robbie Williams is to me including I

1:28:51

believe Joey me and Katie but we

1:28:53

were not asking explained the Robbie Williams

1:28:56

extent of the Robbie Williams phenomenon. So

1:28:58

crazy right that this guy is so

1:29:00

big in England so big in Europe

1:29:02

he comes to America. and no one

1:29:04

like gives a shit about him, right?

1:29:07

And this movie's based on true story

1:29:09

and people were like, shrug, I don't

1:29:11

care, I don't know who he is.

1:29:13

And I'm like, this is incredible that

1:29:16

this really happened, that there was a

1:29:18

random monkey born who could sing and

1:29:20

dance. It's true. and became a pop

1:29:22

star and a sex item? You'd think

1:29:24

more people would have remembered that. That's

1:29:27

a fascinating given story. So Britain's always

1:29:29

got shit. I was like, what's up

1:29:31

with them? Ah, they all like a

1:29:33

monkey. I'm like, yeah, it sounds like

1:29:35

somebody to do. Sounds like great. I've

1:29:38

been sitting on that bit for two

1:29:40

months. Great bit. I'll nominate. I like

1:29:42

all year. John Hamm is great and

1:29:44

Transformers One is the villain. Oh, Ryan

1:29:46

Pax, right? I'm going to say Sentinel

1:29:49

Prime, of course. Oh, Ryan Pax, I

1:29:51

think, is optimist, his name before. That's

1:29:53

correct. And of course, Brian T. Irie

1:29:55

Henry is D16. He's not called Megatronicus,

1:29:57

or whatever I said before. I would

1:30:00

also say for doing narrators, Isabella Rossolini

1:30:02

and probamista is an incredible narrator. Good,

1:30:04

right. Again, casting. is off. And I

1:30:06

just love Paul Walter Hauser and Inside

1:30:09

Out too. He was great. Was he

1:30:11

an inside out too? He's embarrassment, he

1:30:13

doesn't really. Can I do my impression?

1:30:15

Did the Blankeys pick anything there? They...

1:30:17

I don't think so. You fucked up

1:30:20

Blankeys. I don't see it here. Okay,

1:30:22

so... Can I just while I was

1:30:24

on the subject get up as TGI

1:30:26

monkey in a movie to Better Man?

1:30:28

Great. Sure. Do you have a winner?

1:30:31

There was a different conversation. Oh, yeah,

1:30:33

who? King of the Plan of the

1:30:35

Alps. I was going on for a

1:30:37

while. Wicked? The VFX Oscar category could

1:30:39

have been five monkey. It could have

1:30:42

been five monkey movies. And it was

1:30:44

that later, two monkey needed a couple

1:30:46

more go-round. Well, before we get onto

1:30:48

the big performers, do we want to

1:30:50

do like music or cinematography or ensemble

1:30:53

or anything like that? I did write

1:30:55

down cinematography nominees because I always feel

1:30:57

like I'm caught short-handed with that. They

1:30:59

seem to be pretty obvious ones. I

1:31:01

have nickel boys, I have brutalists, I

1:31:04

have challengers, which is actually really tremendous

1:31:06

tennis match photography that culminates in a

1:31:08

moment that just could never actually happen

1:31:10

that I find like incredible for the

1:31:13

movie. But the thing where they're voluing

1:31:15

back and forth, like, a foot apart

1:31:17

of each other, I'm like, that's not

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possible. That doesn't happen. They want to

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do it. They want to do it

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because they want to kiss. Dune part

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two. And then my one stop to

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the Oscars, Maria is not a good

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movie, but Maria's cinema. At Lachman. The

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King. Yeah.