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name is Ben Greenfield, and on this

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episode of the Boundless Life podcast. I

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work with a lot of celebrities. Most

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of them are devoting three or

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four hours per day on their

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body and biohacking modalities and doing

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all the things that allow them

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to maintain that perfect physique, along

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with typically hormones, steroids, peptides,

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so -called gear, as well as for the

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fat loss piece, things like ozempic and GLP

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ones, which basically make you not want

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to eat. Uh,

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welcome to the boundless

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life with me, your host,

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Ben Greenfield. I'm a personal trainer,

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exercise physiologist, and nutritionist, and

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I'm passionate about helping you

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discover unparalleled levels of health, fitness,

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longevity, and beyond. So

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I have clothing that's actually infused

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with quantum energy. Don't laugh. Like

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I wear necklaces of God. like

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this block in my kitchen that

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I can charge food up with. Some

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people laugh at me about it, but it

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is interesting because if you look at the stuff

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that I use, which is made by this

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company called Leela, L -E -E -L -A, Leela

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has 59 research studies now, I

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think more than 59, 48 of

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which were placebo controlled. They're trying

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to bring really good scientific rigor

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to quantum energy technology, which is traditionally

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kind of woo. And they're starting

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to put out some really interesting information. Like

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their research department currently has six studies

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in progress to find out more about

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quantum energy and how it impacts human

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health. Because people like me, we say

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we feel better, our food tastes better,

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we feel more energy, we sleep better. And

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now the science is starting to catch

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up. Like the Emoto Institute in Japan studied

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several LiLiQ products, including their blocks, the

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one that I have in my kitchen. And

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they showed that with three minutes

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in the block, a glass of

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water has increased structure. to it,

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which means that the water is better able

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to carry information, theoretically could

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hydrate you better, it tastes better. They

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did another third -party study that showed a

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20 to 29 % increase in ATP production.

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when cells are exposed to the frequencies

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that they're using in these LilaQ

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products. So it's very interesting

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and you know I think quantum

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energy is starting to get some respect.

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LilaQ is also cool because they're a conscious

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business for every product sold they're helping to

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plant a tree through one tree planted and

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their technology is helping to protect not just

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I was recently on

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an intensive health

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and biohacking tour

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of India and

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sat down for a fantastic conversation

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at a health and beauty

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clinic in which the conversation went

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way beyond health and beauty.

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But it was with the Shradd

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Bayeed. We had such an

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incredible conversation that I wanted to

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share it with you here. So

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it's wide ranging. We get

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into longevity, biohacking, and much more.

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And for all the show notes,

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you can visit Ben Greenfield Life

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slash Sharad, that's S

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-H -A -R -A -D. The name

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of my host on

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today's show, Ben Greenfieldlife.com slash

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Sharad. Enjoy today's show. Are

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there ways by which you can

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hack into your biology and improve

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your fitness, your mental capacity,

6:25

your body strength, and

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overall live a longer life? Are

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there ways by which you can reduce

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your biological age than your

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chronological age? The answer is

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yes. Today, we have

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a world leader in

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biohacking field, someone who's

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an expert into health,

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longevity, and biohacking,

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Ben Greenfield. Welcome

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to Orissa, Ben. Jai Jayanath.

6:51

Jai Jayanath. Hopefully, I said

6:54

that the right way. Yes,

6:56

you did. Yes, you did. So Ben,

6:59

millions of people have

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actually benefited from you

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and so many of them have learned. various

7:06

tools and techniques of

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biohacking and longevity. I'm

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glad somebody other than my mom is listening.

7:13

So could you please tell me in

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your words, in simple way, what is

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biohacking and what is longevity? What

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have you been doing in the last several years in

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your field? In the last

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several years in my field,

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I've kind of gone from focusing

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quite a bit on fitness

7:30

and indoor sports and

7:32

weightlifting and a lot of

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the things that I

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was a little bit misled when

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I was younger into thinking was

7:40

always necessary for being healthy. And

7:43

I've since progressed into a

7:45

lot of things that go

7:47

beyond that. We had a

7:50

session last night here in

7:52

town where I talked about

7:54

everything from invisible variables like

7:56

air quality, light quality, electrical

7:58

environment and water quality to

8:02

your spiritual health and

8:04

your relationships, your family,

8:06

your community to detoxification. And

8:09

a big part of this

8:11

basically is I think

8:13

influenced for me by

8:15

the fact that I work with a

8:17

lot of people and all look at

8:19

their lab results or their health complaints

8:21

and they are exercising. And they

8:24

are eating a decent diet, maybe they have

8:26

a perfect diet that's customized to them, but

8:28

a decent diet. Yet there's a lot of

8:30

things missing. I mean, everything from

8:32

just their phones on Wi -Fi and

8:34

Bluetooth enabled in their pocket all day

8:36

and same thing at night when

8:38

they're sleeping and the Wi -Fi routers

8:40

blast them because they put it in

8:42

the bedroom and the air quality

8:44

index in their home is poor and

8:46

they're drinking out of plastic water

8:48

bottles or the lighting and the circadian

8:50

rhythm is not supported by the

8:52

light in the environment. And once you

8:54

start to tweak a lot of

8:57

those things, as I've done

8:59

for myself, and then I feel fantastic. I'm

9:01

43 and I feel fantastic. Yeah, you

9:03

do. Yeah, once you start to tweak

9:05

a lot of those things, that's when

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you really see the dial start to

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move as far as someone feeling the

9:12

way they think they should feel from

9:14

moving well and eating healthy. Don't

9:16

get me wrong, those are foundational principles, which

9:18

are incredibly important to focus on. There's

9:20

a lot of other things that I've progressed

9:22

over the years in developing. You asked

9:24

me what biohacking is. It's

9:27

a very loose term. You

9:29

know, these days it can

9:31

mean everything from putting ghee

9:33

in your coffee to getting

9:35

NAD injections to literally becoming

9:37

a human cyborg with a

9:39

neural implant, right? Originally biohackers

9:41

back in the 60s and

9:43

the 70s were... were real human

9:46

cyborgs. I mean they called their

9:48

body wetwear and they would install things

9:50

in their body like hardware like

9:52

a compass that would vibrate implanted in

9:54

the chest when you'd face true

9:56

north or special chlorophyll pigments injected into

9:58

the eyeballs for night vision or

10:00

magnetic implants in the fingers to be able to

10:02

interact with screens. I don't

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necessarily think that's a very

10:06

relatable definition of biohacking. I would

10:08

simply say biohacking now is

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using smart tools and techniques

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and tactics to hack

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your biology, not a love with that word,

10:17

but it is the word people use, to

10:19

hack your biology in order to

10:22

get better, faster, or in a more

10:24

efficient way than you might have been

10:26

able to in a native state, if

10:28

that makes sense. So what's your objective?

10:30

Is the objective is to live longer, or

10:33

live 100 years? I don't

10:35

have the number. I don't think it's

10:37

realistic. When people say they're going to

10:39

live 250 years, or 160 or 200, the

10:41

longest. living human I think on record

10:44

based on birth record data right now

10:46

is around 117. I would be super

10:48

pleased and proud if human science could

10:50

advance to the point where we might

10:52

be able to get that up to

10:54

say 125 or something like that. I'd

10:56

love to look at all the males

10:58

in my family. Most of them passed

11:00

away between about 70 and 80

11:02

years old. And if that happens to

11:05

be the case and based on

11:07

my own genetic programming, I'm close to

11:09

that date. My goal is more

11:11

to focus on being as healthy

11:13

as possible as close as possible to

11:15

the day that I die. To

11:18

have that optimum combination of lifespan and

11:20

health span. I also have

11:22

that special trick up my sleeve

11:24

that my own faith is that I'm

11:26

a Christian. So I blame that my

11:28

soul is immortal and I'll

11:30

go on to live for

11:32

eternity anyway. So I don't

11:34

feel like when my body

11:36

and brain finally passed that

11:38

that's the end of Ben

11:40

Greenfield. And so

11:42

I'm not necessarily ruthlessly

11:45

obsessed with extending lifespan at all

11:47

costs. I'm a little bit more obsessed

11:49

with extending health span so that me

11:51

or anybody else who uses these tactics

11:53

can live their best purpose, right? Can

11:55

be able to get out of bed

11:57

when they're 60 or 70 or 80

11:59

and feel great and be able to keep

12:01

working and being with their kids and influencing

12:03

the world in a positive way. Not

12:06

many people are really aware of this

12:08

new concept of why hacking. When

12:11

do people start? How do they start? Is

12:14

there a... I mean, who

12:17

is it actually meant for? Yeah, meant for

12:19

everyone? Or is it... Start

12:21

by drinking a fantastic smoothie like this. I don't know what's in

12:23

this thing, but this is great. What's the name of the

12:25

clinic that we're at? It's called UBU.

12:27

You you view yeah, you view and

12:29

then I keep butchering the name of the

12:31

city. What's the name of the city?

12:33

Bovene sure bovene sure yes, okay you view

12:35

and bovene sure you view is you

12:37

be authentic you be a gold autumn is

12:39

gold so you'll be authentic you'll be

12:41

gold yeah, okay I Like that so so

12:44

where do you get started? Yeah, where

12:46

do people get started? Yeah, I think

12:48

It really depends on the person right

12:50

because I'd love to give you

12:52

some beautiful answer about oh

12:54

start by getting a whatever, the

12:56

HEPA air filter and going

12:58

outside barefoot and getting sunshine and

13:00

adding some NAD and minerals and

13:02

creatine and omega -3 fatty

13:05

acids in your supplementation protocol. Those

13:07

are all sorts of places you can start, but

13:10

I think what's more important

13:12

is that you look

13:14

at what someone's objective is, right? If

13:16

somebody comes to me and their

13:18

number one objective is that they got

13:21

a dexa scan or some kind

13:23

of in -body scan and they have

13:25

a high amount of visceral fat and

13:27

they want to use weight and

13:29

they want to improve aesthetics, that person

13:31

is going to focus on everything

13:33

from a diet adjusted to reduce inflammation

13:35

to some sort of fasting protocol

13:38

to typically some kind of a cold

13:40

thermogenesis and to lifting weights if

13:42

someone comes to and their. goal

13:44

is to put on muscle, right? Like

13:46

I'll train, you know, some Hollywood celebrity or

13:48

executive who literally just wants to pack

13:50

on 10 pounds of muscle. That

13:52

person would be doing, you know,

13:54

greater amounts of protein intake and some

13:56

kind of a sauna protocol because

13:59

that produces heat shock proteins that help

14:01

with muscle. They might be increasing

14:03

their protein and their amino acid

14:05

intake. They might be supplementing with

14:07

collagen, creatine, someone else. So anyway, it

14:10

is an executive who wants memory

14:12

enhancement, right? So for them, it

14:14

might there might be some super

14:16

fancy peptide protocol in which they're

14:18

using things like peptides, these small

14:20

-putting -memory amino acids, yeah, C -max

14:22

and C -length and cerebrolysin and all

14:24

these neural peptides along with natural

14:27

products, a memory, you know, jinkobaloba,

14:29

bacopa -moniery, these herbs that can help

14:31

with memory and I might have

14:33

them playing brain games or doing

14:35

a musical instrument or doing some

14:37

form of memorization or doing things

14:39

that grow the brain. I

14:41

personally, do

14:43

all of these things, right? Like I focus on muscle

14:45

gain, I focus on fat loss, I focus on

14:48

hormone optimization, on gun vanish to do all the deals.

14:50

But, and this isn't, you know, I'm

14:53

busy, you know, I've got a family,

14:55

I got a farm, I got goats,

14:57

I got chickens, I got three companies, I'm

14:59

working 60 hours a week or more. I

15:02

don't have the time to be doing this for

15:04

six or seven or eight hours a day. So for

15:06

much of me, these kind of

15:08

things are just woven in throughout the day.

15:10

Right. Well, I could buy a bunch of

15:12

journals and research articles to catch up on

15:14

all going to the sauna and do a

15:16

sauna session simultaneous to that. Right. Or if

15:18

I want to do red light therapy, I've

15:20

got red light panels in my office and

15:22

I'm flipping those on for the first 20

15:24

minutes of work. Wow. If I'm preparing for

15:26

an interview with a podcast guest, I'm literally

15:28

downloading their audio book or other interviews that

15:30

folks have done with them and listening to

15:32

that while I'm doing my morning. Yeah, so

15:35

you're basically multitasking on that. Multitasking,

15:37

of course, has a bad

15:39

rap because a cognitive task of

15:41

switching repeatedly between tasks, that's

15:43

different than what I would instead

15:46

almost call multi -stacking. I mean,

15:48

it's just doing different modalities.

15:50

It's none of which detract from

15:52

the others. That's amazing. I'm

15:54

40 -something and it's so fascinating

15:56

to hear that you can do

15:59

all this and biohack and you can have a

16:01

larger health span and

16:03

live a quality life. You

16:05

know, I also been doing certain

16:07

things in biohacking. I've been doing

16:09

intermittent fasting very regularly. I've

16:13

been doing cryotherapy, full -body cryotherapy. I

16:15

have red light therapy. I

16:17

take IV drips like NAD plus, lymphatic

16:20

massages, et cetera, et cetera. I've been doing

16:22

that. But there various

16:24

ways of doing biohacking.

16:26

So let's start with

16:29

food. Now that you're in India

16:31

and as you know that we love our food,

16:33

food is a love language. We

16:35

love to feed, we love to eat. I

16:37

caught on to that. And interestingly, every

16:39

time I turn around, there's a chance to

16:42

eat. Yes. And if you come to

16:44

India, people will offer you Mithai, which is

16:46

basically a sweet, Indian sweet, which is pretty

16:49

much a lot of sugar. I

16:51

know. I do it at the

16:53

airport. We offer Mithai in every

16:55

festivals and festivals are all over. So

16:58

we basically, as a country, consume a

17:00

lot of sugar. What

17:02

do you think? Where are we? going

17:04

wrong because as you know

17:07

that India is also deemed

17:09

as the diabetes capital of

17:11

the world. So what

17:13

would you suggest, Indians,

17:17

because they consume a lot of sugar? I

17:20

don't think that it's any secret

17:22

that sugar can contribute to insulin

17:24

resistance and contribute to diabetes. So

17:26

I would probably be leaving

17:29

a lot of the tables just

17:31

to eat less sugar. No,

17:33

no, I eat sugar, but it's

17:35

from natural sources. Potatoes, sweet

17:37

potatoes, yams, purple potatoes. My wife's

17:40

addictive sourdough bread, sometimes a

17:42

little bit of dark chocolate and

17:44

yogurt and blueberries for desserts

17:46

and horse nests and carrots and

17:48

beets and yams and, you know,

17:50

the natural nutrient dense sugars that you find

17:52

in a lot of healthy foods. When

17:55

it comes to the isolated sugars, you

17:57

know, everything from the high fructose

18:00

corn syrup to the added sugars

18:02

and processed foods, those are

18:04

obviously a little bit more of

18:06

an issue when it comes to why don't you bench for

18:08

them? But even those, you

18:10

know, if you're exercising, you're

18:12

metabolically active, sugar is not

18:14

that big of a deal or as big of

18:16

a deal as I think a lot of

18:18

people will think that it is. I mean, technically,

18:21

If you wanted to lose weight, I

18:23

could give you 2 ,000 calories of

18:25

Coca -Cola a day. And if you're burning

18:27

2 ,100 calories a day, then you're

18:29

not exercising movement. You're still going to

18:32

lose weight. It's not like the most

18:34

nutrient -dense diet. You're going to build up

18:36

amino acid deficiencies and fatty acid deficiencies

18:38

and vitamin mineral deficiencies over time. But

18:40

that's not enough to cause weight loss.

18:42

And then I'm not endorsing that. Do

18:45

not say that Ben Greenfield started the

18:47

Coca -Cola diet. Yeah. But. I

18:50

think there are other things to think about. Let's

18:53

look at a couple of them. For example, if

18:56

you, and I looked into this last year

18:58

when I was in India, if you look

19:00

at the rise in sugar consumption and the

19:02

rise in diabetes, they're not correlated. There hasn't

19:04

been a steep rise in sugar intake. However,

19:08

there has been a rise in

19:10

the substitution of natural oils like

19:12

ghee, extra virgin olive oil, avocado

19:14

oil, coconut oil, et cetera. with

19:16

seed oils that are more processed. When

19:19

you consume a processed seed

19:21

oil, this means an oil

19:23

that has been heated once or heated

19:25

multiple times, a high intake of fried

19:28

foods, these oils that

19:30

have a low smoke point,

19:33

you tend to see an inflammatory response

19:35

in the body. These

19:37

fats can comprise your cell membranes and

19:39

be a part of your body for depending

19:42

on the research you look at. Three

19:44

months and up to two years after you

19:46

consume them. So you literally are what you

19:48

eat eight more in the case of oil

19:50

than in sugar Because sugar can have a

19:52

pretty short transient time in the body, but

19:54

I could have a candy bar to go

19:56

burn off at the gym. Hey, so With

19:58

the oils, when you create inflammation, you

20:01

also induce a resistance of

20:03

fat cells to mobilize fatty acids

20:05

to be burnt as energy. So

20:07

you also create a state of

20:10

insulin resistance because you get more resistant

20:12

to insulin in a state of

20:14

inflammation, which is what these rancid processed

20:16

seed oils can cause. That's very

20:18

interesting because in India, vegetable oils and

20:20

seed oils are very, very popular. Yeah,

20:24

it's ironic because we were eating a healthy

20:26

meal last night. and there was millet,

20:28

and quinoa, and amaranth, and all these lovely

20:30

vegetables. They were cooking them in sunflower

20:32

oil. Which is one of the rancid seeds.

20:34

And it's not as though you can't

20:36

say, hey, could you prepare this in ghee?

20:38

Right, cooked them this morning. I had a dosa, and

20:40

I asked for them to prepare it in ghee. Yesterday,

20:44

I had a piece of chicken, and

20:46

I asked them to cook it in ghee

20:48

or olive oil. Most of the time,

20:50

they have those fats and oils around. It's

20:52

a matter of asking for them, and then

20:54

at home, stocking your pantry with those same

20:56

options. Let's look at

20:58

another factor in addition to seed oils. Air

21:01

quality index. Yeah, right.

21:03

So I want to talk to you about a quality

21:05

index since you've been in India right now. So

21:08

how has it been? So it's the

21:10

topic of it's definitely something that needs

21:12

to be addressed. Not only in India,

21:14

but in anywhere where there's a high

21:16

population. I think in India, it's a

21:18

little bit worse because of vehicle emission

21:21

standards and rapidly growing population and crowded

21:23

streets. But when you

21:25

look at what's going on

21:27

when, let's say, even if

21:29

you're staying in a nice hotel and it's

21:31

500 meters from a busy highway, you've

21:33

got carbon monoxide, which binds to

21:35

oxygen or binds to the cells that

21:37

would normally carry oxygen. So you're

21:39

releasing oxygen to liberate cells. That's affecting

21:41

cellular metabolism. You've got

21:43

nitrogen dioxide, which is

21:46

also toxic. You've got volatile organic

21:48

compounds, which can build up in

21:50

the body and reduce metabolism and

21:52

cause the same type of inflammation

21:54

that induces resistance to fat loss

21:56

and insulin resistance. You've

21:58

got carbon monoxide,

22:00

nitrogen dioxide, volatile organic compounds,

22:03

metals and microplastics, both of

22:05

which are now associated with

22:07

insulin resistance and inflammation. And

22:10

so there's this cluster of factors. And of course,

22:12

the more important question becomes, what do you do about

22:14

it? Yeah, what do we do about it? We

22:16

don't, we can't leave the city, we have to stay

22:18

with us. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. We have work

22:20

here. What do we move on? We're still in the moment

22:22

down the top if you still got to feed, you know,

22:24

feed your family. Right. And is there

22:26

anything that government can do it? So

22:28

the big obvious ones that

22:31

I think some people are aware of, but

22:33

that we should, we should at least give

22:35

a head nod to. Right. One would be

22:37

good HEPA air filtration. Looking for a HEPA

22:39

air filter that will actually filter PM 2 .5,

22:41

so particulate matter 2 .5. the

22:43

size of the particle that's going

22:46

to be most well absorbed and cause

22:48

the most systemic damage. PM

22:50

of like 10, that's going to irritate the

22:52

lungs a little bit, but it's not

22:54

going to cause as much system -wide issues.

22:56

But you want a HEPA air filter that

22:58

has really, really good carbon filtration that's

23:00

going to get rid of PM 2

23:02

.5. In the US, there's

23:04

brands like... Jasper

23:06

air doctor. Origin is the

23:08

one that they have at the hotel that I'm staying at

23:10

here. That's also a good one. Right.

23:12

Origin, by the way, is also the company

23:15

that did research on genetically modifying plants

23:17

to make them better airscrovers. Also, if you

23:19

look at the NASA Clean Air Study,

23:21

they actually are available in multiple plants, peace

23:24

lily, and the English Ivy that

23:26

you can plant around your house. They're

23:28

not as powerful as a HEPA airfield. They're

23:30

prettier. There's like

23:33

eight or nine of them. A couple I

23:35

said was English Ivy and Peace Lily.

23:37

There's several others. I don't have them all

23:39

memorized. Is that enough for a person

23:41

in the house if you keep a plan?

23:43

Does that still need to have air

23:45

filtration? Particularly, let's say

23:47

you still live in a clean area. You

23:49

create a lot of air pollution when you cook.

23:51

I'm shocked because I measured in my kitchen

23:53

the PM 2 .5 because the air filter I

23:55

have called the Jasper, it'll also measure the air

23:57

quality. Right. And in most kitchens,

24:00

the fan above the stove is too far

24:02

above the stove to be able to catch

24:04

a lot of the particulate matter that gets

24:06

released when you clean. So my PM level

24:08

goes from four up to above 500 when we're

24:10

cooking in the kitchen. So now I

24:12

have a standalone air filtration unit right in

24:14

the kitchen. So air filtration

24:16

via both plants and HEPA air

24:18

filters, that would be one. Another

24:20

would be using a good mask when

24:22

you are outdoors in areas where you

24:24

need it. You know, the classic

24:26

example would be the N95, which

24:28

obviously got signed up. I

24:30

wear that mask a lot. Yeah,

24:32

I don't like it. It

24:34

feels hot and sweaty and then breathing into

24:36

a mask. You're breathing on your own carbon

24:38

dioxide, so you get a little bit light

24:40

headed. It's

24:43

not comfortable, but it does do a good job

24:45

filtering. But talking about the

24:47

carbon dioxide that you breathe in, is that

24:49

good? Because when you have the mask on,

24:51

you kind of breathe this. whole

24:54

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24:56

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27:35

dioxide for about five, not pure

27:37

carbon dioxide, I shouldn't say that. It's

27:40

about 7 % carbon dioxide for around

27:42

five to seven minutes during the

27:44

day. It seems to build up stress

27:46

resilience, increase your heart rate variability,

27:48

which is a measurement of your nervous

27:50

system readiness. And it has

27:52

some interesting effects on the lungs as well. However,

27:55

constantly breathing, I mean, for more

27:57

than, like, five to seven minutes, you're

27:59

inducing a mild state of physiological stress

28:01

and psychological stress if you're walking

28:03

around the mask the whole time because

28:05

you're in a mild state

28:07

of self -suffocation, right, the carbon dioxide inhalation.

28:09

So we've got HEPA aerofiltration and masking.

28:11

And then there are certain things that

28:14

you can do beyond that as far

28:16

as what you consume. So pure, clean,

28:18

filtered water, I hydrate a ton here.

28:20

I've actually recorded a few podcasts here

28:22

and I've literally had to go use

28:24

the washroom during the podcast because I

28:26

have to pee so much here. But

28:28

I'm doing that on purpose. Like I'm

28:31

saying, very well hydrated. So being adamant

28:33

about hydration from good, clean, pure sources.

28:35

Right. Right. So plastic. was of

28:37

course the correctly plastic. you get the what

28:39

in the plastic bottles mostly? Is that not

28:41

an issue? Well, the problem with the plastic

28:43

and a lot of people like, well, it

28:45

hasn't been heated. I don't know if the

28:47

plastic water bottles in the gym mini cooler

28:50

back at my hotel also spent 10 hours

28:52

in the hot backseat of a car before

28:54

they put them in the gym. So you

28:56

need like the really hard heat resistant plastic

28:58

or I just travel with the glass or

29:00

stainless steel water bottle. I fill that up

29:02

at the airport from the drinking water station.

29:04

It saves me whatever $7 .99 on it.

29:06

Fiji or Pellegrino, and that's what I do. 99

29:08

% of the time. Then at home, I

29:10

just have a water filtration unit. So

29:13

drinking a lot of water, that's

29:15

why. There are certain

29:17

antioxidants from foods that are most

29:19

studied for reducing the effects

29:21

of air pollution. One would

29:23

be sulforaphanes. You get those from

29:25

broccoli, cauliflower, sprouts. You

29:28

can buy sulforaphane as a supplement.

29:30

That's one that's very powerful. Another

29:32

one would be anthocyanins. you find

29:34

those in things like blueberries and

29:37

purple cabbage, or like the blues and

29:39

purples of the plant kingdom. Powerful

29:41

antioxidants like vitamin C and vitamin

29:43

E are pretty well known for pollution.

29:45

And by the way, I've tripled

29:47

my antioxidant intake since I got to

29:49

India just by traveling with some

29:51

of these little antioxidant packets. Vitamin

29:54

B flies under the radar. The

29:56

research on vitamin B to reduce

29:58

the effects of air pollution damage

30:00

on DNA, on the immune system, and

30:02

on the lungs is not something a

30:04

lot of people talk about, but you

30:06

can get a good vitamin B complex,

30:08

multivitamin, just about anywhere. And vitamin B

30:10

has really good effects. So it's all

30:12

that you do to counter the air pollution that

30:14

you have. And then glutathione.

30:17

Glutathione is incredible. A

30:20

few things to know about glutathione.

30:22

You can take it as an oral

30:24

supplement. I use it as a transdermal.

30:26

I use a brand called Glutaril, which

30:28

is very well absorbed. So I use

30:30

transdormal glutathione spray. I'm doing eight sprays

30:32

in the morning and eight sprays in

30:34

the evening here. Normally at home, I

30:36

just do four sprays in the morning.

30:38

What's that? So I've got four times

30:40

the amount of glutathione going into my

30:42

body, which is an antioxidant. That's also

30:44

one resource for defects on mitigating air

30:46

pollution damage. Anacetal cysteine supports

30:48

your body's own glutathione production. It's also

30:50

a supplement that you can get

30:52

in India. That one has also been

30:54

studied for air pollution. Right. Cordyceps,

30:57

a lot of like churpas will use when

30:59

guiding people up Everest because it helps with lung

31:01

function. Well, no surprises there. It can also

31:03

help to reduce the effects of air pollution or

31:05

help your lungs to deal with that a

31:07

little bit more. Cordyceps, mushroom extract, cordyceps,

31:10

teas, et cetera. So

31:13

we've got NAC, we've

31:15

got glutathione, we've

31:17

got cordyceps. And then

31:19

beyond those kind of things that you

31:21

can do from a dietary. for

31:24

our supplementation standpoint. I'm

31:26

a huge fan of

31:28

nebulizing. I bought a nebulizer when I

31:30

got here. It cost $20. I got

31:32

a little bottle of hydrogen peroxide. You mix

31:34

the hydrogen peroxide. Typically, you'd use a

31:36

saline solution. I don't travel with the saline

31:38

solution, so I just get good, clean,

31:40

pure water and put a few benches of

31:42

salt in it. You typically

31:44

want about 0 .15

31:47

% solution. Right.

31:49

So I'm basically doing into the nebulizer,

31:51

you know, the canister for the nebulizer

31:53

is about that big. So I'm floating

31:55

up mostly with water and then I

31:57

don't have a. a volume measurement in

32:00

my hotel room, but I'm just splashing out

32:02

with a little bit of 3 % hydrogen

32:04

peroxide. Easy to find at any pharmacy.

32:06

A nebulizer and hydrogen peroxide might put you

32:08

back like 25 USD. So

32:10

now what I do is when I'm

32:12

checking my emails in the morning or

32:14

in the evening, I pull on the

32:16

mask, and I'm simply doing deep breathing

32:18

through the nebulizer with hydrogen peroxide while

32:21

I'm working on my laptop. Now

32:23

at home, I have

32:25

liquid glutathione. And you can

32:27

actually nebulize. And I'll do this

32:29

when I get home. You can

32:31

nebulize liquid glutathione. And that's an even

32:34

more powerful antioxidant than hydrogen peroxide.

32:36

So I use a brand called Glutostat.

32:38

It's made by a company in

32:40

Florida called Mitose. So nebulizing is

32:42

incredible for the air pollution piece as

32:44

well. Wow. And then if we

32:46

want to get deep into biohacking, we're

32:49

at a beauty clinic right now.

32:51

Aesthetic exosomes have become very popular. I

32:53

was talking with Dr. Sam earlier.

32:55

They use Korean exosomes here for ineptibles

32:57

in the face. You

32:59

can also use exosomes

33:01

because they're so concentrated in

33:03

growth factors as ineptibles

33:05

for joint issues. You can

33:07

use them as an

33:10

IV for longevity. big

33:12

study, it was on a rodent

33:14

models, yet they showed a massive,

33:16

it was like a 17 %

33:18

increase in lifespan, just from IV

33:20

exosome infusion. But because they're

33:22

so concentrated in growth factors, they can

33:24

also heal tissue very quickly. So

33:27

I have a source in Lithuania. Right. For exosomes,

33:29

because I don't know if I can say this

33:31

on the podcast. I might get trouble. I don't

33:33

know how this is legal, but I'm doing it

33:35

anyways. She ships

33:37

them to my house. And so I have

33:40

four bottles of exosomes waiting at my

33:42

house when I get home. Right. And I

33:44

will also nebulize those. They're little vials.

33:46

You put a little bit of typically like

33:48

sterile water into them, and then you

33:50

can inject them. You can nebulize them. You

33:52

can use them as a nasal spray.

33:54

Those are more expensive. The exosomes are not

33:56

inexpensive. Amazing, amazing. Some

33:59

of them could be $1 ,000 to $1 ,500 for

34:01

a bottle. But if you

34:03

were to stack all those things, that

34:06

would help out with the gluten piece.

34:08

But back to how we got on

34:10

this topic. You talked about sugar as

34:12

being something that would contribute to diabetic

34:14

risk in India. I would say that

34:16

seed oils and air pollution are big

34:18

of a issue to them to think

34:20

about. I'm glad that you do so

34:22

many things and not walking out of

34:24

podcast the way Brian Johnson did for

34:26

the AQI. I saw Brian Johnson

34:28

was here a few days ago. a

34:30

great guy. He's super dedicated. He's one

34:32

of the most well research human

34:34

guinea pigs in the world right now. I

34:37

don't know that a lot of what

34:39

he does is super relatable or doable for

34:41

the general population, but he's sacrificing his

34:43

body and testing these things out. Not everybody

34:45

has the same genetics as Brian Johnson,

34:47

so obviously what he's doing might not work

34:49

for you. But

34:51

he certainly brought a lot of, I

34:53

think, positive interest into an idea

34:55

of extending human lifespan or health span,

34:57

if that's also what you care

35:00

about. But yeah, I saw that podcast

35:02

where he was wearing a mask during the podcast,

35:04

and eventually he just left. If

35:07

I really, truly wanted to

35:09

live as long as Brian Johnson wants to,

35:11

and I was as dedicated as he is, I

35:13

probably would leave also and just go curl

35:15

up in my hotel room with the HEPA air

35:17

filter. I think it's difficult

35:19

to live life in a bubble, though. So

35:22

you do what you can to minimize the

35:24

damage and I don't travel with you guys pick

35:26

me up from the airport I don't even

35:28

check a bag when I travel now. I'm now

35:30

checking a bag because you guys are so

35:32

generous every time I give a talk It seems

35:34

like I get a gift or I've got

35:36

plates and cups, you know I literally had to

35:38

buy an extra bag. So yes now I'm

35:40

checking a bag when I travel I travel very

35:42

light, but I also have a few key

35:44

things I even brought a few of them for

35:47

show and tell if you want that I

35:49

consider to be like bio hacks So

35:53

first of all,

35:55

after I go through security.

35:57

Because if I do

35:59

this, when I go through security, they

36:01

freak out. And I learned that lesson

36:03

a hard way. Literally, the last time

36:05

I was in India, having to get

36:07

stripped down, completely naked in the women's

36:09

changing tent, because I was a complete

36:12

ghost passing through security and the soldier

36:14

flipped out. I literally almost went to

36:16

the point of shoving the wand up

36:18

my butt to see what I had

36:20

on. So this is an EMF blocking

36:22

blanket. Right, so I pull this over

36:24

my body when I'm on the airplane

36:26

and it helps to block radio frequencies

36:28

Wi -Fi radiation from causing a little bit

36:30

of a draining of my body's battery

36:32

You know last time I was giving

36:34

my talk I discussed how your your

36:36

body is a battery and each of

36:38

the cells operate at a specific electrochemical

36:40

gradient It's like negative charge on the

36:42

inside. It's like positive charge on the

36:44

outside. Yeah hefty exposure to EMFs in

36:46

the environment, from Wi -Fi routers, from

36:48

cell phones, from X -ray scanners and the

36:50

like, all of this can cause a

36:53

calcium influx into the cell, which positively

36:55

polarized or positively charged that cell a

36:57

little bit, and it can reduce cellular

36:59

metabolism to a certain extent. Yeah, causes

37:01

you to brain fall. can use it

37:03

when you sleep. So I just pull

37:05

this open, yeah. This is like a

37:07

blanket, not even when I sleep, just

37:09

when I'm sitting there. And then this

37:11

is really cool. This

37:13

is a full, pull -on

37:15

hoodie. that I can wear that also

37:17

blocks EMF. And again, like if I were to

37:19

go through an X -ray scanner, I would look

37:21

like a ghost wearing this. And even

37:23

though there's the time you walk into the scanner,

37:25

you wear this? Yep. Pants. And

37:28

then even a little beanie. Right, so

37:30

I can wear this on the airplane

37:32

and if I'm in a hotel room

37:34

that has a lot of Wi -Fi

37:36

signals bouncing around and I flip on

37:38

the phone and there's like more than,

37:40

you know, there's like 20 Wi -Fi signals,

37:43

I'll use this blanket during sleep as

37:45

well. It's not the most comfortable blanket,

37:47

but it works for blocking EMF. It's

37:49

like a silver lined fabric. So I

37:51

travel with this for the EMF piece.

37:54

I also have

37:57

a set of headphones.

38:00

Of course, noise blocking headphones are great

38:02

for sleep, especially on airplanes. But

38:04

these headphones are interesting because

38:06

there's a cranial nerve that snakes

38:09

through your whole body. It's

38:11

called the vagus nerve. It

38:13

stimulates the pacemaker cells of your

38:15

heart. It innervates your organs. If

38:18

you're in a stressed out state, you

38:20

typically have poor feedback from your vagus

38:22

nerve to the rest of your nervous

38:24

system, including your heart. Now, many people

38:26

now are measuring their heart rate variability,

38:29

you know, their readiness score, their stress score,

38:31

and the big thing that feeds into that

38:33

score is your heart rate variability. A number

38:35

of times in between each heartbeat, it should

38:37

be a variable, right? Should I beat and, you

38:39

know, 98 milliseconds, another beat in 102

38:41

milliseconds, it shouldn't be like a beat in

38:43

100 milliseconds, and a beat in 100

38:45

milliseconds. There should be some variation. There's

38:48

all sorts of ways that you

38:50

can increase your vagal nerve tone.

38:52

de -stressing practices like yoga and

38:54

meditation and breath work, cold plunging

38:56

and cold therapy, particularly if your

38:58

head gets under the water, chanting,

39:00

singing, humming, gargling, all sorts of

39:03

ways that you can do it.

39:05

But there are also electrical vagal

39:07

nerve stimulators. Literally, there are electrodes

39:09

that are placed near the typically

39:11

the auricular nerve under 90 year, and

39:14

that triggers the vagus nerve in a

39:16

way that actually tones it and increases

39:18

your heart rate variability. So

39:20

check this out. These headphones

39:22

basically look like normal noise blocking

39:24

headphones. These are made by a

39:26

company called a wholist. However, they

39:28

also have these little pieces that

39:31

I can put on either side

39:33

of the headphone and then I

39:35

take the covers off of these

39:37

pieces. And so when I

39:39

feel stressed, when I want to

39:41

relax, if I wake up at

39:43

night and have a difficult time

39:45

falling back asleep, what I can

39:47

do is put these headphones on

39:49

and Only

39:54

because I just stuffed them

39:56

into my bag hurriedly on the

39:58

way coming in here. But

40:00

basically, I put them on and

40:02

these little pieces go directly

40:04

over the ear or under the

40:07

ear right where it stimulates

40:09

the vagus nerve and they deliver

40:11

a mild electrical sensation that

40:13

helps to tone the vagus nerve

40:15

so I can decrease stress. Well,

40:18

I'm on the go. And obviously, since I

40:20

like to travel with over -the -ear headphones anyways

40:22

for the airplane, it's not like

40:24

I have to travel with a bunch of

40:26

extra stuff besides those two extra little baby nerve

40:28

stimulators that go over the headphones. And

40:31

then in addition to that,

40:34

in this bag, I'm a

40:36

huge fan of red light therapy, but I'm not

40:38

going to travel with a red light therapy

40:40

bed or panels and sometimes hard to down these

40:42

things when you're only go. So

40:44

what I've gotten this bag are a

40:46

few things. First of all, this

40:48

is a wrap -around red light therapy

40:50

device. It's even waterproof. This one's made

40:52

by a company called Lumiflex. And

40:54

I can flip this on. And what I do is

40:57

when I'm laying in bed at night or when I get

40:59

up in the morning, I put one on my back

41:01

and one on my stomach. If I ever get any aches

41:03

or strains or pains, I can wrap it around a

41:05

joint. So I travel with two of them because they easily

41:07

fit in here. So my favorite way to do it

41:09

is I put one in front of me and one behind

41:11

me when I get up in the morning. And

41:14

it muscle pain? What's that? Is it

41:16

for the muscle pain? For muscle pain,

41:18

for innervating the, for kind of like

41:20

warming and radiating the gut bloods, which

41:22

is going to basically cause photonic activation

41:25

of all the cells in the body

41:27

as the blood rushes past. So I'm

41:29

getting this, this almost like the equivalent

41:31

of red light therapy, but it's on

41:33

the go wrapped around any joint. So

41:35

I travel with these. And speaking of

41:37

red light, I also travel with these.

41:39

I was wearing these last night. So

41:41

of course these are You put these

41:43

on at night. So if you're in

41:45

a hotel room that's got a bunch

41:47

of bright lights or I'm speaking at

41:49

night under LED fluorescent lights, I can

41:52

wear these. Yeah, and they keep your

41:54

melatonin from being disrupted. Yeah, so you wear

41:56

them last night. Great idea. And

41:58

then you can also, in the same

42:00

way that you can block red light

42:02

at night, you can get more. natural,

42:06

bluish green light is the light spectrum

42:08

that kind of causes the waking response. So

42:10

if I'm not able to get outside in

42:13

the sunlight when I'm traveling, maybe

42:15

it's a cloudy day, maybe it's a

42:17

time of day when the sun hasn't

42:19

yet come up, but I want to

42:21

get my body awake. Maybe I'm in

42:23

Las Vegas where there's a bunch of

42:25

tall buildings and you can't find the

42:27

sun if your life depended on it.

42:29

I'll pull on these glasses and these

42:31

are called IOs and they go over my

42:34

eyes just like that. By the fact, I

42:36

may have misspoken. These ones, there's two

42:38

different brands I travel with, one called IOs

42:40

and one called Retimers. These might be the Retimers

42:42

anyways. Those are the two brands, AYO and

42:44

Retimer. And they produce this spectrum that I can

42:46

use while I'm checking my morning emails or

42:48

walking around the hotel room. And what is there?

42:50

What are they in the morning making coffee? It

42:53

causes an awakening response to occur very similar

42:55

to what you get if you were looking at

42:57

sunlight. So it's a way you can kind

42:59

of hack your circadian rhythm by getting exposed to

43:02

more blue light. So you'd want to avoid

43:04

the blue light at night. You can wear glasses

43:06

like that in the morning. And

43:09

these two are dual. Yeah,

43:12

helps with circadian rhythm. Yeah, exactly. So

43:15

then these two, these are interesting. This

43:17

one's called the Apollo. and this

43:19

can go around my wrist or my

43:21

ankle, and then I can use

43:23

an app on my phone to select

43:26

whether I want it to be

43:28

set in sleep mode, relaxation mode, meditation

43:30

mode, focus, energy, social, and

43:32

it delivers a mild vibratory sensation

43:34

around typically your ankle or your wrist,

43:36

and it shifts you into that desired

43:38

state. I love this for sleepy on

43:40

airplanes for giving a talk I

43:42

can put I had it on last

43:44

night in energy mode So I'd stay

43:46

energetic at night when I was giving

43:49

my talk right and it's a

43:51

very subtle sensation But it and obviously

43:53

it's highly portable and I can travel

43:55

with this anywhere in the world So

43:57

that one helps with with sleep

43:59

or energy And then this one,

44:01

this is one of my favorites. So when

44:03

I wake up in the morning, sometimes I want

44:05

like that extra 20 minutes in bed, or

44:07

sometimes very similar to what happens a lot of

44:09

people, I'll wake up at like 3 a .m.

44:11

with racing thoughts or something like that. This

44:14

is called a sensei, and you

44:16

wear it around your neck. It goes

44:18

right over the collarbone, so it

44:20

stimulates the area of the collarbone responsible

44:22

for triggering the vagus nerve, similar

44:24

to the vagal nerve stimulators on the

44:26

back of the neck. And then

44:28

you put it on and it plays

44:30

music through your headphones that correlate

44:33

to the vibrating sensation that the sensate

44:35

is making. And it

44:37

just controls you into this peaceful meditative like

44:39

state. You just forget all your worries,

44:41

you lay back. It feels like a cat

44:43

purring on your chest almost. But

44:45

this thing, and it's super simple and

44:47

easy, and I'm addicted to it. It's amazing.

44:49

I do one almost every single morning

44:51

for about 20 minutes when I travel. And

44:53

so those are just a few of

44:56

the little things, you know, that don't require

44:58

me to, you know, to check a

45:00

bag per se. But those are examples of

45:02

what I suppose that your original question

45:04

would be considered like bio hacks, but they're

45:06

relatable. I have a lot of those

45:08

things. Those are affordable for the general population

45:10

as well. Now that you're in India

45:12

and a study says that, you know, 60

45:14

% of the Indians chooses to be vegetarian,

45:17

right? They have a vegetarian diet

45:19

and a majority of them do

45:21

not stay away from meat for

45:23

religious reasons as well. Yeah, I'm

45:26

a vegetarian myself. And how do

45:28

you supplement the vegetarian food? Like

45:30

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45:32

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Life network. What's your

46:33

advice to the people who have, you

46:35

can't eat meat for the matter. Yep.

46:38

So I look at the blood

46:41

work of a lot of

46:43

plant -based eaters and I tend

46:45

to see the same deficiencies pop

46:47

up over and over which

46:49

is B12. It's creatine, vitamin B12.

46:52

It's not tested as much but torene

46:54

tends to be low in these

46:56

individuals, omega fatty acids,

46:58

overall protein intake

47:00

tends to be low.

47:04

And iron, those are some of the

47:06

bees. Now, what's

47:08

interesting is you don't see those

47:10

abnormalities pop up as much in

47:12

the people who are using more

47:14

ancestral preparation methods for the plants

47:16

that they're consuming. What do

47:18

you mean by ancestral preparation? when

47:20

you sprout, when you do

47:23

slow cooking methods, you unlock a lot

47:25

more of the nutrients from the amaranth

47:27

and the quinoa and the millet and

47:29

the lentils and the legumes and all

47:31

these foods that tend to be some

47:33

of the protein sources. It's a second

47:35

class protein. Yeah, but if you're simply

47:38

just like cooking them quickly, you're not

47:40

unlocking a lot of those nutrients. So

47:42

the first thing I encourage people to

47:44

do is soak. Sprout right ferment. You

47:46

know, you can even eat sprouts like

47:48

seeds that have been sprouted. They're obviously

47:50

eating a wide variety of foods This

47:52

is like, you know vegetarianism 101 rotate

47:55

your grains and your beans and your

47:57

rice's and eat a variety and don't

47:59

just have one Type of grain or

48:01

bean or rice or grass that you're

48:03

getting a multitude of different amino acids

48:05

from those sources But again, they're not

48:07

gonna be unlocked. Right. We put it

48:09

this way Consuming like a bowl of

48:12

quinoa for breakfast that you've soaked at

48:14

night and rinsed off and then let soak

48:16

again in a little bit of water and

48:18

vinegar and then rinse that again in the

48:20

morning and then prepare it almost similar to

48:22

how you might do overnight oatmeal. You're

48:25

going to get more protein and

48:27

less digestive distress from that quinoa

48:29

that's been slowly prepared. So

48:31

rotating and also using ancestral

48:34

preparation methods is important. Nowadays,

48:36

you can get rice protein powder,

48:38

pea protein powder, hemp protein powder.

48:41

A research study came out several

48:43

years ago showing that if you

48:45

consume digestive enzymes, when you have

48:47

a plant -based protein, you increase

48:49

the amino acid bioavailability of that

48:51

protein. So you can kind of

48:53

like hack a plant -based protein powder

48:55

by adding enzymes to it. And

48:57

it's still not as good as

48:59

whey protein or egg protein, for

49:01

example. But whey protein comes from

49:03

dairy, so we consume a lot of whey

49:05

protein. So whey protein would be OK. I actually

49:07

didn't know that. I thought that you also

49:09

stayed away from whey protein. No, no, no. We

49:11

consume whey. It comes from cows. But

49:14

it's the dairy products, so it's fine. So

49:17

whey protein's got great amino acid

49:19

bioavailability. One of the

49:21

top -selling products for One of

49:23

my companies called Keon, a nutrition

49:25

supplements company, are vegan essential

49:27

amino acids. Those are the building

49:29

blocks of protein that are

49:31

predigested that amplify your body's own

49:33

blood levels of amino acids

49:35

for muscle building, for repair, for

49:37

recovery, but they're a non -animal

49:39

based source. Essential

49:42

amino acids are all nine amino acids. Branched

49:44

amino acids aren't so good. They're almost like

49:46

an expensive flavored water and they spike blood

49:48

glucose a little bit and I'm not a

49:50

huge fan of those. But if you get

49:52

all nine essential amino acids, by essential, they're

49:55

the ones that your body can't make on

49:57

its own. You can actually

49:59

increase your protein availability. Collagen

50:01

and gelatin are a little bit similar

50:03

to that. For many

50:05

vegetarians, those aren't an

50:07

option unless it depends. There

50:11

are not many good sources of

50:13

collagen and gelatin that you're going to

50:15

find in the plant -based world. But

50:18

essential amino acids, that's another really, really

50:20

good way to manage your levels up. You

50:22

should be shooting for about 0 .7 to

50:24

0 .8 grams. or

50:26

a pound of body weight. You can

50:28

eat supplementary weight protein and through the amino

50:31

acids. Yeah, and digestive enzyme at the

50:33

same time that I have the supplements. And

50:35

then the other things I talked about,

50:37

you know, iron, if you're eating a wide

50:39

variety of legumes, et cetera, you can

50:41

usually get enough iron, but some people need

50:43

to supplement with iron. An

50:45

example of a form that doesn't irritate the

50:47

gut would be like iron bisglycinate. Tori,

50:50

you can supplement with. Creatine's

50:53

fantastic. Pure, plain old

50:55

creatine monohydrate, around five grams a day

50:57

for both men and women. For the

50:59

neural brain enhancing effects, you can even

51:01

get up to 10 to 20 grams.

51:03

The higher amounts are also fantastic for

51:05

sleep. some kind of

51:07

a vitamin D complex. In many cases,

51:09

like a fat soluble vitamin complex as

51:11

well, like your vitamin D, A, E,

51:13

and K. That's something that tends to

51:15

be a little bit lower in plant

51:17

-based eaters. And then the last one

51:19

would be omega fatty acids. And

51:21

if you're doing a lot of chia seeds, flax seeds,

51:24

you know, that hurts. You'll get

51:26

a decent amount of omega fatty

51:28

acids, but the conversion is

51:30

pretty poor. And you can,

51:32

I mean, of those fats in the DHA

51:34

and EPA in your body. So

51:36

you can use a plant -based source

51:38

of omega fatty acids as well. And

51:41

one of the best ways to do

51:43

that is via algae, like chlorella,

51:45

spirulina, et cetera. A lot of algae

51:47

has decent omega. So those are some

51:49

of the things. Very nice. Very nice.

51:52

So I was told that when you

51:54

turn 30, you lose 1 % of

51:56

the muscle mass every year. It's

51:58

called sarcopenia or something. Depending

52:01

on how much protein you eat

52:03

and whether or not you're lifting

52:05

weights. So what are the buy hat

52:08

techniques to improve or boost your

52:10

muscle mass and improve your recovery? Because

52:12

as you know, muscle is the

52:14

organ of longevity. Exercise,

52:17

I understand, but how important is

52:19

muscle building? Lifting weights and

52:21

lifting weights, particularly at a rep range that

52:23

doesn't allow you to get more than about

52:26

12 reps in. So a lot of people

52:28

just lift too light. So there's

52:30

a whole concept of what's called reps in reserve.

52:33

And you would want to... No, my

52:35

rule is three. If you can

52:37

get to 12 and do three more,

52:39

then your weight's too light, you

52:41

need to increase your weight. So getting

52:43

the muscle close to a high

52:45

amount of time under tension that induces

52:47

as close to fatigue as possible

52:49

without injury, That's one. And it's most

52:51

people don't lift heavy enough weights. So

52:54

like I went for a swim

52:56

this morning and I did some squats

52:58

in the gym. And I did

53:00

10 sets of six squats. And

53:03

in between the squats, I was doing some planks

53:05

and some core work and some recovery. But with

53:07

the weight I was using, I wouldn't have been

53:09

able to do nine squats. So I was within

53:11

that rule of three parameter. So

53:13

lifting heavy weights, eating adequate protein. We touched

53:15

on that, 0 .7 to 0 .8 grams of

53:17

protein. We found a body weight. some form

53:19

of thermal stress. I briefly alluded to this

53:22

earlier, like the heat shock proteins that you

53:24

get from the thermal stress in a sauna

53:26

that helps to be able to maintain muscle.

53:28

It's very interesting research. It doesn't seem like

53:30

be able to just build muscle by getting

53:32

hot. It's more about maintaining muscle and then

53:34

building muscle, but having some kind of a

53:36

robust sauna practice, that can be helpful. Hormones.

53:42

Especially as you age, you know,

53:44

women will see decreases in hormones

53:46

like progesterone and testosterone and men

53:48

in particular see decrease in testosterone. There

53:50

are herbal agents like toncataly or

53:52

turquesterone that can help with testosterone.

53:55

I'm not opposed to testosterone replacement therapy

53:57

for people who are doing a lot

53:59

of things that you'd want to do

54:01

to maintain elevated testosterone levels, but still

54:04

seeing deficits. So paying attention

54:06

to hormones is important. And I mean,

54:08

Don't get on testosterone replacement

54:10

therapy until you're at least

54:12

lifting heavyweights, getting adequate sleep,

54:14

de -stressing, and consuming the building

54:16

blocks for testosterone. It should

54:18

be creatine, minerals, zinc,

54:21

magnesium, boron,

54:23

and vitamin D. You should have

54:26

all those present in your diet. Omega

54:28

-3 fatty acids will kind of fit into

54:30

that as well, just addressing all the basic

54:32

building blocks. I see a lot of times,

54:34

especially it's popular in the US, people just

54:36

get on testosterone replacement therapy when they haven't

54:38

addressed the base foundational needs. So

54:41

yeah, I would say the biggies would be,

54:43

you got to quit protein with whites,

54:45

pay attention to your hormones, get hot on

54:47

a frequent basis, and that'll help. Right,

54:49

right. Amazing. Amazing. So

54:51

let's do a quick fire round. I'll

54:53

ask you questions to give these short answers.

54:55

I'll be brief. I'm bad at that,

54:57

but I'll do it. Nowadays, you

55:00

see a lot of celebrities

55:03

with your perfect body, tone

55:05

body, perfect physique. Are

55:07

they fooling us with their perfect routine

55:09

of food and diet and exercise or is

55:11

there something that they are going on?

55:13

What's your take on a Zempick? I work

55:16

with a lot of celebrities. Most

55:18

of them are devoting three, four

55:20

hours per day. on their body

55:22

and biohacking modalities and doing all

55:24

the things that allow them to

55:27

maintain that perfect physique along with

55:29

typically hormones, steroids, peptides,

55:32

so -called gear, as well as for the

55:34

fat loss piece, things like ozempic and

55:36

GLP -1s, which basically make you not

55:38

want to eat. Is ozempic safe? not

55:41

in the dosages that are being used. It's

55:44

a pretty impressive drug with really

55:46

good safety records for things like

55:48

diabetes, but you can control your

55:50

appetite with it by using like

55:52

one tenth or less of the amount

55:54

that's currently being dosed. At the

55:56

high dosages, you get things like

55:58

muscle loss, you've got inflammation, depression,

56:00

anxiety. So I like those

56:02

drugs, but not me going out to the

56:04

dosage that they're being used, which I

56:06

think is in excess. Right. So Ben, I'm

56:08

very curious to know what is the

56:10

most craziest thing that you've done in the

56:13

field of biohacking and health and fitness?

56:15

What's the craziest thing that comes to your

56:17

mind? I've

56:19

had every single one of my joints,

56:22

toe, to head, hair, skin, nails, donuts,

56:24

everything injected with stem cells during

56:26

a four to five hour surgery in

56:28

Park City, Utah. I've done that

56:30

twice. Injected stem cells in your joints?

56:32

Yeah. Okay, every joint, all at

56:34

once. And what does it do in

56:36

session? and basically restoring your body's

56:39

lost stem cell pool that occurs as

56:41

you age. I've done gene therapy

56:43

in Mexico where you literally get an

56:45

intramuscular injection. In this case,

56:47

I did fallostatin gene therapy. which

56:49

caused 11 pounds of muscle gain

56:51

in about three months, which would be

56:54

unheard of via natural means, but

56:56

it literally turns on the gene responsible

56:58

for building the muscle. And

57:01

I've done also in

57:03

Mexico, a full body blood

57:05

filtration, five hours a day for two

57:07

days in a row in a hospital

57:09

bed in Tijuana, having all the blood

57:11

pulled out of my body, passed through

57:13

a filter to pull out pathogens. Spike

57:16

proteins, everything and then back into

57:18

the body completely clean up the body,

57:20

similar to a dialysis. Those

57:22

would be, I would say, three things. Full

57:24

body stem cell procedure, gene therapy and blood

57:26

filtration. Wow. Very

57:29

interesting. If you

57:31

could delete one mainstream

57:33

myth about health and longevity,

57:35

which is being very

57:37

pushed by the experts in

57:39

capitalism, what would it be? One

57:42

myth? that you need

57:44

to eat a lean, low -fat diet

57:46

in order to be healthy, because

57:48

fat serves the building block for cholesterol,

57:50

for hormones, and they're so necessary

57:52

for so many metabolic functions that I

57:54

think we're too fat -phobic, and I

57:56

wish people would quit throwing around

57:58

words like or phrases like lean protein

58:00

as much. Yeah. So

58:03

can we really cheat genetics?

58:06

I mean, some people are born with good

58:08

genes, some are with bad genes. Can we

58:10

hack that? Can we cheat our genetics? Yeah,

58:12

you could test your genes. You could finally

58:14

have a high risk for, I don't know,

58:16

like... cancer and limit your red meat or

58:18

alcohol consumption. You can find out you

58:20

have a high risk for type 2 diabetes and

58:22

wear a continuous glucose monitor like this and pay attention

58:24

to your sugar and your carbohydrate and your seed

58:26

oil and your air pollution and things that we were

58:29

talking about earlier. You find out

58:31

you have a high risk for blood pressure

58:33

and take things like nitric oxide supporting

58:35

foods like, you know, beets or cordyceps or

58:37

extra virgin olive oil or some of

58:39

these things that help out with nitric oxide

58:41

production. You can find out

58:43

they have a predisposition to certain

58:45

diseases. and adjust your lifestyle according to

58:48

your diet, your exercise, et cetera,

58:50

so that the epigenetic factors responsible for

58:52

manifesting that disease don't actually take

58:54

place. And technically, you could actually get

58:56

nowadays, like gene therapy. And actually,

58:58

if you want to delve deep into

59:00

biohacking, actually get injectable gene therapy

59:03

for some of these things. But

59:05

yeah, you can certainly address

59:07

genetic risk factors pretty adequately if

59:09

you know what those genetic

59:11

risk factors are. That's amazing. Wow.

59:13

Yeah. So the last question,

59:15

Ben, what's the best money hack

59:17

that you could advise to the

59:20

followers in India? Something

59:22

which comes cheap. I mean, you've said a lot

59:24

of things, I know. What

59:26

is something which is the

59:28

cheapest and the most effective

59:30

and efficient biohacking technique? The

59:33

planet Earth. Every time lightning strikes

59:35

the surface of the planet or solar radiation

59:37

bombards the surface of the planet, it collects

59:39

negative ions. When your skin comes in touch

59:41

with the surface of the planet, you absorb

59:43

those negative ions and it helps to recharge

59:45

the body's battery. That's why the sandals I

59:47

took off when I came in the door

59:49

here have copper plugs in the bottom of

59:51

them and copper laces. They're called earth runners.

59:53

There's other brands out there that keep me

59:55

grounded and in connection with the planet earth

59:57

versus wearing big built up river sold shoes.

59:59

I go barefoot. I'll do push -ups with my

1:00:01

hands on the concrete. I try and get

1:00:03

in touch with the surface of the planet

1:00:05

for at least 20 minutes a day. But

1:00:07

if you look at PubMed, there's a growing

1:00:09

body of research on the effects of so

1:00:11

-called earthing or grounding. Cheap, easy, last time

1:00:13

I checked. Touching the ground is free. Most

1:00:16

cities and countries and states, I'm sorry if you live

1:00:18

in a place where it's not. But

1:00:20

yeah, just earthing, grounding. Fantastic.

1:00:24

Such a lovely... that we had when I

1:00:26

really had a lot of fun and there's

1:00:28

so much of information that you've given us. I

1:00:31

mean, I really have to sit and decode each one

1:00:33

of it and try to see what works for me.

1:00:35

Yeah. Thank you so much for being on this podcast.

1:00:37

I totally loved it. Thanks for having me. Thank you.

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