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know, I was supposed to be doing my

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senior thesis last night and instead was faced by

1:39

a mob that wouldn't let me walk through

1:41

my own campus. But unfortunately not something new for

1:44

myself or my Jewish peers at Yale. Netanyahu,

1:46

that was him speaking just there.

1:48

This has to stop. Ivy institutions

1:50

erupt with anti -Semitic protests. Now

1:52

Yale has moved to take immediate

1:54

action against the group that caused

1:57

so much disruption. But I got

1:59

a huge problem. Number one, that

2:01

they let this exist. And number two, is

2:03

that the group flat out lied. They said

2:05

their club charter has been revoked and that

2:07

they didn't plan anything on Wednesday when the

2:09

Israeli official came to speak. And they

2:11

lied because we have this thing called social

2:13

media now. Netanyl Crisp, a

2:15

senior at Yale joins us now on Zoom.

2:18

Hey, thanks for joining me last night with Laura,

2:20

and thanks so much for joining me today. First

2:22

off, you got the video, someone shot the video

2:25

of you just trying to walk across campus. How

2:28

long have you been dealing with

2:30

this anti -Semitic hatred? Yeah,

2:33

thank you so much for having me again. It's

2:36

been two years. I'm

2:38

a senior here at Yale, a

2:40

Jewish senior, and Starting day one, October

2:42

7th, we started facing this kind

2:44

of hate two days later on

2:46

October 9th. Hundreds of students organized by

2:49

this exact same student group, including

2:51

many members of the Yale faculty

2:53

gathered right off campus to celebrate the

2:55

resistance to success. No way, will

2:57

stop that faculty? Celebrating

2:59

with them off campus or on campus?

3:03

This was immediately off campus,

3:05

but these same faculty members

3:07

then continued with these demonstrations

3:09

on campus throughout the last

3:11

two years. And we've seen

3:14

throughout even recent days a

3:16

continued kind of surgeons of

3:18

this anti -Israel anti -Semitic activity

3:20

motivated and perpetrated by members

3:22

of the staff of administration

3:24

and the students. I

3:26

assume that you didn't know any of this when you

3:28

picked Yale. I mean, I can't imagine how great

3:30

your grades must have been to get in. I'm

3:33

sure you had a lot of choices. If

3:36

you knew anything about the anti -Semitism on

3:38

campus, would you have made this choice? It's

3:42

hard to say. I'm definitely a

3:44

fighter, so I'm very glad to be able to

3:46

be here and to support my Jewish peers, and

3:48

that I think is what's motivated me to stay and

3:50

to stick around and to keep the fight going. But

3:54

no, when I applied to Yale, I

3:56

viewed it as a home. When I

3:58

came to Yale, it was a home

4:00

away from home. And now feels much

4:02

more like an asylum. And the patients

4:04

are running the show. So it's a

4:06

crazy scene and definitely not what I

4:08

expected. So Netanyahu, are these American kids?

4:10

Are they foreign students? What's

4:12

the makeup of the Yaleys

4:14

for Palestine group? Definitely

4:17

a diverse combination. We

4:20

have students from the graduate schools

4:22

involved, from the undergraduates, a variety of

4:24

different groups that will

4:26

merge for these events, also

4:28

bringing in outside agitators as

4:30

we observed with this demonstration

4:33

on Tuesday night, where it

4:35

definitely appeared there were a lot

4:37

of adults who would come in

4:39

from the surrounding areas, locations unknown.

4:41

So a wide range of students,

4:43

many of whom though, are using

4:45

both the liberties that exist as

4:48

US citizens, but also these liberties

4:50

that are provided to them. on

4:53

the basis of being students on visas,

4:55

and they are taking advantage of that

4:57

and trampling over American values in the

4:59

process. Let me ask you, the President

5:01

of United States wants to look into

5:03

who these foreign students are. Why

5:05

are they taking spots away from

5:07

Americans? I know you have to have

5:09

foreign students. Of course, I'm not

5:11

dumb. You need people playing full freight.

5:13

But I don't think the kid

5:15

in Indiana or in Portland, Oregon has

5:17

got to lose his or her

5:20

spot after doing just to be eligible

5:22

for IVs, to some kid who's

5:24

going to come here and create unrest

5:26

on campus, or doesn't really have

5:28

the grades to get in. Yeah,

5:31

absolutely. You know, I'm

5:33

a descendant of a proud immigrant on one

5:35

side of my family, a

5:38

Mayflower descendant on the other. So

5:40

I really embody the American dream having

5:42

seen kind of and received and

5:44

been The recipient really of the great

5:46

work and hard work that my

5:48

ancestors had to do to allow me

5:50

to be where I am today

5:52

and to put all this in perspective

5:54

and context, just acknowledging where these

5:56

demonstrations are happening. While

5:58

I'm being blocked and while my Jewish peers are

6:01

being blocked from walking through our campus, we're looking up

6:03

and seeing the American flag. This

6:05

event was being hosted on sacred

6:07

ground. the area

6:09

that houses Yale's Memorial for

6:11

Veterans, with the American flag

6:13

there having been torn down at last

6:15

year's encampment and these students having attempted

6:17

to burn it, having only barely been

6:19

saved by some of my friends. So

6:22

this is the area that they are

6:24

desecrating in the process. And as that

6:26

flag waves, I watch as all of

6:28

these values that my ancestors, my great

6:30

grandfather who served in World War II,

6:32

fought so hard to preserve. Wow,

6:36

so you said a year ago they took down your

6:38

flag, they took down the flag, and they were going

6:40

to burn it, and you helped stop that? My

6:43

friends did. I'm very grateful,

6:45

yes. So let's just go

6:47

back to the incident. Why were they

6:50

protesting on Wednesday? Great

6:53

question. They give a variety

6:55

of different reasons, but the main thing is

6:57

it was the one year anniversary of last

6:59

year's encampment. These students don't need

7:01

to excuse to be anti -Semitic. They look

7:03

for any opportunity that they can. It combined

7:05

with a variety of different events, first

7:07

and foremost. This is during Yale's

7:09

Bulldog days, which is a period of

7:11

time for three days when over 1

7:13

,400 Early accepted

7:16

students or students that had recently

7:18

been accepted into the class of

7:20

2029 arrived on campus to experience

7:22

Yale for three days and that's

7:24

what they were met with. So

7:26

I watched as this event was

7:28

happening as incoming first year students,

7:30

Jewish students were witnessing their first

7:32

kind of. incidents of anti -Semitism and

7:34

this also coincided with Yom HaShoah,

7:36

which is Israel's Holocaust Memorial Day.

7:38

So for both of those events

7:40

to be taking place at the same

7:43

time, just reflects the degree of

7:45

hostility that Jews are facing here

7:47

at Yale. So I

7:49

understand there was a visit

7:51

from Israel's National Security Minister. Was

7:55

that true? Is that part of

7:57

the reason they came out? potentially

8:00

they did a second demonstration

8:02

yesterday that was an off -campus

8:04

event that was housed separately, which

8:06

there was numerous demonstrations for

8:08

as well. So we saw kind

8:10

of this combination of all those factors and that

8:12

was an attempt by them to shut down that

8:14

event. They targeted Jewish students and participants

8:17

who were trying to attend and to

8:19

leave. I know people who had

8:21

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to get started. So Netnil, what

9:58

is the attraction to

10:00

the Muslim extremist culture?

10:02

If I said this after 9 -11, you wouldn't know,

10:04

you're too young. It would have been

10:06

great. There was an over -exuberance and anger

10:08

towards the Muslim community, and that needed to

10:11

be stopped. I get it. But

10:13

if they were protesting Muslims, stopping

10:15

them from moving across campus,

10:17

if they were stopping black students

10:19

or white students for going

10:21

across campus, there would be outrage.

10:23

But for some reason, we

10:25

have to go after a school

10:27

for allowing anti -Semitism. Do you

10:30

agree with my analogy why

10:32

they have a problem with some

10:34

and willing to accept other

10:36

types of bigotry? Absolutely.

10:38

That's something that I've highlighted in

10:41

my Title VI complaint through the Department

10:43

of Ed, which I've worked with

10:45

my Jewish peers here at Yale to

10:47

file. which is highlighting this disparate

10:49

treatment, that this doesn't happen to other

10:51

groups, any other protected groups. This

10:53

only happens to Jews. It's

10:56

only the Jewish question that you have

10:58

to analyze whether or not this is anti

11:00

-Semitism, whereas in any other case, the school

11:02

over the last few years would have

11:04

come out unequivocally in condemning these types of

11:06

actions. So they stop Columbia, they froze

11:08

$400 million of Columbia, and Columbia says, okay,

11:11

what do I need to get that

11:13

back? And they're gonna try to

11:15

do everything except for they will not agree

11:17

to any access to their curriculum. And

11:19

then we know what's happening with Harvard. They

11:21

got their money frozen. They're suing to

11:23

get the grants back. What would get Yale's

11:25

attention? I

11:27

think we need to see similar action. I

11:29

think we need to have some funding pulled. There

11:31

has to be immense pressure placed

11:34

on the Yale administration by the federal

11:36

government and by alumni and anybody

11:38

else who can. And I think

11:40

you highlighted a key point, which

11:42

is the departments. This really is an

11:44

issue that lies in the faculty

11:46

here at Yale in large part. There's

11:48

fantastic faculty here at Yale and

11:50

some really bad ones. I think

11:52

looking at specific departments, whether it's American

11:54

Studies or East Asian Studies that have

11:56

been hosting these events on and off.

11:58

So I can imagine what American Studies

12:00

are like. Should they

12:03

be anti -American studies? Right.

12:06

That would be a better way of

12:08

putting it. The majority of those

12:10

faculty have engaged in these activities and

12:13

are perpetuating this type of anti -American

12:15

sentiment amongst the student body. Have

12:17

you noticed that in classes you've taken?

12:19

What's your major? I'm

12:21

a history major. In history,

12:23

how do they characterize

12:25

American history? It

12:28

varies. I'm very selective as to

12:30

which professors I'll take courses with

12:32

because, unfortunately, found that

12:34

the bar has been lowered and that many

12:36

of these newer faculty are just people that

12:39

I don't feel safe being at the mercy

12:41

of for grading or otherwise in the classroom. So

12:45

I want you to hear

12:47

what Alan Garber said. He's the

12:49

president of Harvard. And when

12:52

asked about what funding cuts would

12:54

mean for research, let's

12:56

look. This is cut seven. What's

12:58

the risk? is the

13:00

excellence of higher education in

13:02

the United States and in

13:04

particular the research mission of

13:06

many of our universities which

13:08

plays such a vital role

13:10

in the U .S. economy

13:13

and in the health and

13:15

well -being of the American people.

13:17

Is that a risk if

13:19

we cut the funding and

13:21

freeze the grants? No,

13:24

I think there are definitely losses

13:26

that are going to occur. But at

13:29

the end of the day, these

13:31

schools are not entitled to taxpayer dollars

13:33

to fuel this anti -semiticate that's overwhelmed

13:35

these campuses. And

13:37

they can continue that, but not

13:39

at the taxpayer's expense. So I

13:41

think the federal government has every

13:43

right to cut this funding and

13:45

that if the schools want to

13:48

react and respond, the way to

13:50

do that is to fight back

13:52

against this discrimination to look over

13:54

kind of their teaching habits and

13:56

styles and curriculum and finding a

13:58

way to bring them back to

14:00

kind of the highlight of the

14:03

education here in the United States.

14:05

Has anyone reached out to you

14:07

and the faculty? Has anyone reached

14:09

out to you with the Yale

14:11

administration? I've

14:13

not been contacted by the the head

14:15

execs here at Yale. I've yet to

14:18

hear anything from the president and that's

14:20

something that I'm still waiting to see.

14:22

Does it hearten you that the Yale

14:24

is for Palestine have had their charter

14:26

revoked as a club on campus? Definitely

14:30

a step in the right direction,

14:32

but unfortunately, perhaps a little

14:34

too late. It's been two years of this.

14:36

I think to highlight just how important

14:38

that is. For the last two years, this

14:40

student group was receiving funding from Yale

14:43

to engage in these anti -Semitic protests so

14:45

that not only were they violating all of

14:47

Yale's policies in the process, but

14:49

also violating the law and Yale was giving

14:51

them the money to do so. So

14:53

I'm glad that's no longer the

14:55

case, but I expect that little

14:57

will change in terms of their activities

14:59

and they've even put out, you

15:02

know, social media posts today highlighting that

15:04

this will not in any way

15:06

deter them from these actions. So until

15:08

Yale takes the necessary measures to

15:10

necessary steps to penalize and discipline these

15:12

students to expel those students responsible

15:15

and ensure that they don't receive their

15:17

degrees. we will not see the

15:19

change that we really need to. Well, he's a

15:21

fighter and we see it on video. You don't

15:23

see it in this segment, but you saw it.

15:25

It's out there online of Netanyl. Just trying to

15:27

get across campus, get ready for a senior thesis

15:29

and he gets stopped. Why? Because he's Jewish. I

15:31

mean, can you believe I'm talking about this in

15:33

2025? That's what he's living as a

15:35

senior at Yale and he's felt it for the last

15:37

two years. Let's stay in

15:39

touch and we'll continue to push back. And

15:41

I think people should know what the Trump

15:44

administration is fighting for. It's for people like

15:46

you and to do the right thing. No,

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