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on. Hello you. It's that time

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of the week again. Thanks for

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coming back. Mazy Adam, for she,

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it is today the guest being.

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It came to prominence through mock

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the week like you know so

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many people did. She strikes me

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as one of those people who

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wasn't around and then all of

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a sudden is around. and she's

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just established and she's just here.

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The good news is she's going

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back on the road with her

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show Appraisal. It's kicking off again

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on the 1st of February on

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the Isle of Man and providing

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the weather is good enough. She

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will then be going that's a

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reference to the James Bond documentary.

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She'll then be going to Dublin

0:57

Belfast Banga all sorts of places.

1:00

We had a great time chatting

1:02

and only meta once before when

1:04

she came on would I lied

1:07

to you, but... She's just a

1:09

naturally funny person. Please sit back

1:11

and relax and enjoy. Brighton and

1:14

Macy Adam. We've spent

1:16

very little time together.

1:18

Very little. Would I lie

1:21

to you? How long ago was that

1:23

now? I think, yeah, but you,

1:25

yeah. I mean, how many, how

1:28

many do you think you've

1:30

done? Well, we've done, I

1:32

think 19 series. I didn't

1:34

do the first two series

1:36

because they were angusticedeaten. I

1:38

came on as the host

1:40

after him. But we've done,

1:42

have we done 100 or 200

1:44

episodes, something like that? I

1:46

think I was on before the

1:48

pandemic, so I think that takes

1:51

us about four years. Of course, I

1:53

will say for you, I can remember

1:55

you being on it. There are many

1:57

people who when I watch it

2:00

go out. I would have said

2:02

I've never met that person. Oh

2:04

really? That may say more about

2:06

me. But yeah, but how many

2:08

series? Did you say 19? About

2:10

19 I think. That's a lot

2:13

of faces and a lot of

2:15

people. It is, isn't it? Sometimes

2:17

not true anecdotes. So sometimes they

2:19

do lie. Sometimes they do. So

2:21

I think that's... Yeah, we've, and

2:23

yet we must know a lot

2:25

of the same people. Yeah, definitely.

2:28

Definitely. You were just mentioning Jill

2:30

Scott, Jill Scott. Yeah, because she

2:32

was saying that she'd done, would

2:34

I lie to you? And had

2:36

such a good, had such a

2:38

nice time and then we were

2:40

talking about, she's so warm, she's

2:43

so naturally funny. Because also, I

2:45

don't know if you find this,

2:47

but a lot of people in

2:49

comedy, they're funny on camera, but

2:51

they can be quite like, introverted,

2:53

you know, which can still be

2:56

a good thing. Yeah, she's very

2:58

good on that podcast. We see,

3:00

I'm not a football person, I

3:02

know you are. Yeah. But she's

3:04

good on that one with Roy

3:06

King and Ian Wright. Yeah, and

3:08

Gary Neville. Yes, and Gary Neffel.

3:11

Oh, Gary Neh, he seems like

3:13

a nice guy. But I, and

3:15

even someone like me, who's not

3:17

that fussed about football, thinks, oh,

3:19

I like, what's some more of

3:21

that actually? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well,

3:23

well, he's interesting, Roy Kean. Anyway,

3:26

never mind who we know. Never

3:28

mind who we know. You are

3:30

here primarily, and there's no shame

3:32

in this to plug. More dates

3:34

on an already successful tour. Yes,

3:36

we are going back out on

3:39

tour. I say we, that's me

3:41

and tour manager Beck, just the

3:43

two of us. on a tour

3:45

of premierings around the country. Is

3:47

the premier in your hotel of

3:49

choice? Call me Lenny Henry because

3:51

I'm all about a premiering. Well,

3:54

you can't begrudge Len because when

3:56

you stay in a premiering, it's

3:58

terrific. You know what you're going

4:00

to get? That mattress. You don't.

4:02

do premiere-ins, Rob? Surely. You're a,

4:04

you're, yeah, you're a man of

4:06

five-star. I think, what's important for

4:09

the hotel for you? I'm thinking

4:11

sauna, spa, yes. Yeah. The ones

4:13

that come with a dressing room.

4:15

Look, this is, there's, this is

4:17

no time for false modesty. I

4:19

will say this. When I'm touring

4:22

with my band. and we have

4:24

been playing somewhere north of Manchester.

4:26

Right. What we will sometimes do

4:28

is we'll drive for about two

4:30

hours after the show, pull into

4:32

a motorway side premier in, where

4:34

all you're going to do is

4:37

sleep. Yeah. Have a sleep, get

4:39

up the next morning, have a

4:41

breakfast, have a breakfast, nice breakfast.

4:43

and head home. In other words,

4:45

we're breaking the journey. Really? Yeah,

4:47

we've done that in the past.

4:49

Oh, the motorway premiere ends. Yeah,

4:52

and I will say I've, I'm

4:54

not going to sit here and

4:56

insult my listeners by saying it

4:58

will be my first choice, of

5:00

course not. Well, I'd like to

5:02

get to the dizzy heights where

5:04

a premiering is, not my first

5:07

choice. I'm going to spend five

5:09

years advertising cruises cruises. I always

5:11

say, usually when I hear Lenny

5:13

on this other side, I always

5:15

go, I think I've got very

5:17

good beds. They have got very

5:20

good beds. You can't knock their

5:22

beds. And if there's one thing

5:24

you want from a hotel. You

5:26

want, yeah, there's nothing worse. It's

5:28

the first thing I do, Macy,

5:30

when I go to her, when

5:32

I'm on touring off. You check

5:35

in the mattress. I sit on

5:37

the mattress. Yeah, got to be

5:39

done, get in there quick. You

5:41

were made to be rechargeable. We

5:43

were made to package flights, hotels,

5:45

and hammocks for less. Expedia, made

5:47

to travel. You and Beck are

5:50

traveling around the country together. Yes.

5:52

So this is the second... started

5:54

my tour at the end of

5:56

last year. Genuinely, I know people

5:58

will sometimes go, oh, having such

6:00

a nice time when they'd rather

6:03

be anywhere else. I love to,

6:05

touring is my favorite aspect of

6:07

being stand-up because you know when

6:09

you work at the start and

6:11

you're doing open mic gigs and

6:13

then you get onto the circuit

6:15

and people come to see comedy

6:18

but they've not maybe come to

6:20

see a specific person on the

6:22

lineup. When you can get to

6:24

a point where people are coming

6:26

to see... you and you go

6:28

to these different parts of the UK

6:31

and there's still people all over that have

6:33

come to see you. It's really special. I

6:35

like the crowdwork element of getting to know

6:37

who my audience is, what have they done

6:40

today, who have they come with, what do

6:42

they do? I like all that. And they

6:44

have a knowledge of you. Yeah,

6:46

yeah. They're already invested in you

6:48

to varying degrees because of course

6:50

in any audience you've got the... the

6:53

husband or boyfriend who

6:55

isn't really a fan. It's

6:57

been dragged along. Exactly. Yeah, yeah,

6:59

yeah. But unlike the mixed bill

7:02

circuits, it's not like you've got,

7:04

you know, when they come back

7:06

stage and go, just so you

7:09

know, we've got three stag dues

7:11

and stuff. And you think, oh

7:13

God, no, you're right, they've already

7:16

come with a, they're already a

7:18

bit on side because they want

7:20

you to do them already. and this

7:23

second leg we're going back to a

7:25

lot of the places that sold out

7:27

the first time, but also some like

7:29

towns that I've not been to before.

7:31

Well I know when you were touring Wales

7:33

in the past, I got very worked up

7:35

about this and I went on a few

7:38

message boards. Oh yeah, that was you. Yeah,

7:40

with all the multiple accounts. Yes, I

7:42

put a bit of hate out there

7:44

because it seemed to me Mazy. Yeah,

7:46

you're doing card if you're doing swansy,

7:48

but you know there are other places.

7:50

with all those different bots. Yeah, yeah.

7:53

So we've got Bangor and we've got

7:55

Aberist with. Lovely. Now you're playing.

7:57

Yes, you are. You're playing Aberist.

7:59

like your work. So it's the gigs

8:02

have a really nice friendly vibe to

8:04

the more ready and this second leg

8:06

we're going back to a lot of

8:08

the places that sold out the first

8:10

time but also some like towns that

8:12

I've not been to. before. Well I

8:14

know when you were touring Wales in

8:16

the past, I got very worked up

8:18

about this and I went on a

8:21

few message boards. Oh yeah, that was

8:23

you. Yeah, with all the multiple accounts.

8:25

Yes, I put a bit of hate

8:27

out there because it seemed to me

8:29

Macy, yeah, you're doing card if you're

8:31

doing swansy, but you know there are

8:33

other places. Exactly, as you well let

8:35

me know with all those different bots.

8:37

Yeah, yeah. So we've got Bangor and

8:39

we've got... abberist with. Lovely. Now you're

8:42

playing. Yes you are. You're playing abberist

8:44

with in February. Yeah. And I predict

8:46

it will be a windy. Really? Well

8:48

I played abberist with any... Have you

8:50

ever been to Abberist with? No, never.

8:52

Oh, it's terrific. It's very dramatic. It's

8:54

a bit like sort of a scarber

8:56

or something like that. Oh, okay. Yeah.

8:58

And you've got a sort of curved

9:01

bay. Yeah. Yeah. when the weather's right

9:03

or wrong it can crash in. Yeah,

9:05

yeah. Really, okay. So I'm really delighted.

9:07

I'm going to go in February then.

9:09

Oh, that's great. I'm going to feel

9:11

the full force of avarice. But the

9:13

audience will be so grateful, aren't they?

9:15

Because seriously, yeah, honestly. And those things

9:17

come into play. They do, they do.

9:19

The last thing you want to be

9:22

doing is a gig on the hottest

9:24

day of the year, right? Oh, I've

9:26

done those, yeah, yeah, when people sack

9:28

it, when people sack it off, it

9:30

off, but now. Very hot gig once,

9:32

no. Very hot gig once, once, once,

9:34

once, at the corn exchange, at the

9:36

corn exchange, at the corn exchange. in

9:38

Cambridge. I used to, in those days,

9:41

each seat there'd be a leaflet advertising

9:43

a DVD or something and I remember

9:45

looking at and they're all fanning themselves.

9:47

Yeah, so they're not, they're not, they're

9:49

not concentrating. You can just see wafting

9:51

happen. Do you like the whole experience

9:53

then of the touring? Because a lot

9:55

of people will say, well I love

9:57

the time on the stage, but I

9:59

could do without the travelling. Yeah, I...

10:02

I guess so. I think, you know,

10:04

it's still, this is only my second

10:06

proper tour, so there's still a bit

10:08

of like a novelty to, I'm not,

10:10

I'm not sick of it yet, you

10:12

know, and also I don't, I don't

10:14

have kids or, you know, a pet

10:16

or anything, I just have a very

10:18

supportive husband who's at home. Including a

10:20

pet in that? No, I know. But

10:23

the kids, yes. Well you see some

10:25

comedians now bring their pets on tour

10:27

with them. Is that right? Who's doing

10:29

that? Who's doing that? Louise or Omelan

10:31

famously. Do you know her? She's got

10:33

a, is it a Bernese mountain dog?

10:35

A gecko. No, it's like, it's a

10:37

dog that's almost like a bear. Really?

10:39

Oh, lovely. She's massive, but she comes

10:42

on stage, not Louise. The dog comes

10:44

on stage with Louise. So I'm aware

10:46

that some people can be very, they

10:48

can be very, they can't leave these

10:50

pets alone. away. Okay but you say

10:52

husband you didn't you recently marry is

10:54

it quite a recent thing? Well summer

10:56

2023 yeah oh yeah summer before last.

10:58

Okay and how is that going? Yeah

11:00

great. Right, I mean, when I met

11:03

my husband, he was managing a cocktail

11:05

bar, so that's how we met. Is

11:07

it? Yeah, so... You were just, you

11:09

were just there. I was just there.

11:11

He was working as a waiter. I

11:13

was about to say, when you hear

11:15

that, you hear a cocktail bar, you

11:17

can't, you can't, you have to sing

11:19

it. You're way too young to really

11:22

know that song. No, but I, I,

11:24

I, I, yes, but... when you start

11:26

telling that story people immediately. So he

11:28

was working with some waiters at a

11:30

cocktail bar. With some waiters at a

11:32

cocktail bar. But it was great because

11:34

when you know we met around the

11:36

time when I was just coming through

11:38

the circuit so we were both always

11:40

coming home at like two, three in

11:43

the morning. So we would have our

11:45

how was your day chat at 3am

11:47

you know where most couples might have

11:49

that over dinner. So it was it's

11:51

always it's always work. We've always been

11:53

used been used to. one or the

11:55

other person being out all the time.

11:57

So no, it's pretty nice. And now

11:59

he works from home, so if I

12:01

do come home, he's always there. How

12:04

does he manage a cocktail bar from

12:06

home? Well, he doesn't manage a

12:08

cocktail bar anymore. He's in, he's five

12:10

years later on. He's got the world

12:12

at his feet. Success has been so

12:14

easy for him. I think he might just

12:16

be living the lyrics. Now you, yeah. Yeah.

12:19

What happens in the song doesn't,

12:21

oh doesn't she leave him? Well

12:23

it's, it's, and even though, how

12:25

do you find a much better

12:27

place? Either, I think they break

12:29

up. I don't think it ends well.

12:31

I don't think it ends well.

12:33

I don't think it ends well.

12:35

I think maybe we should keep

12:38

it at first verse. Okay, yeah.

12:40

So he's working from home now,

12:42

not managing the cocktail bar. Do

12:44

you remember like, we're very different,

12:47

I have... I think the biggest

12:49

streak I've had on Duolingo was

12:51

12 days. He learned coding and he's

12:54

made an app and that's what

12:56

he does now. He does app developing.

12:58

From managing a cocktail bar?

13:00

Yeah. To doing that? That's quite a

13:03

leap. Yeah, he's quite a leap. Yeah,

13:05

he's just he's got one of those

13:07

brains that just gets it. And

13:09

which language were you learning on

13:12

Duolingo? Francés. Oh, trébébienne.

13:14

Well, just 10 days. Duzjou. Well,

13:16

you remember that. Yeah, yeah.

13:18

Just do the apari. Absolutely,

13:21

Mont. Really? We. I study

13:24

from Paris. Did you actually?

13:26

No, I learned that. I was, I did

13:28

the old Doolonger thing for a while,

13:30

wanting to get good at French. Yeah.

13:33

And I always remember, Gertrude de Paris.

13:35

A parry. I study in Paris. And

13:37

I would love to learn to speak

13:39

French. I'd love to do it. I

13:41

really would. I did find with Doolingo,

13:43

they give you sentences that you're never

13:46

really going to say. Find yourself saying,

13:48

the purple chicken is in the tree. Yes,

13:50

it's unlikely. It's unlikely. It's unlikely. I don't.

13:52

I don't. Oh really? Yeah that's what you

13:54

do. I know people have done that. She

13:56

can stay for a week somewhere and it's

13:58

just French all the time. like an adult

14:00

exchange. Yes, there's no sex. No, no,

14:03

not an adult exchange like that. Just

14:05

like a... French exchange but you're not

14:07

a student. Because Mark, I think it's

14:09

Mark Steele, he does gigs in French.

14:11

Can he speak French? Oh my god,

14:13

that is good. Do you think he

14:16

still sounds to a French person when

14:18

he speaks French? Like that. Voulay, Vou,

14:20

Couché Avikbaugh, say sua. I mean how

14:22

do they do there? Do you think

14:24

that he sounds like that to the

14:26

French? He must do, he must do,

14:29

yeah. So this is your only your

14:31

second tour. So when in your view

14:33

did you break through then? When did

14:35

you become? Because I remember I didn't

14:37

know. No. Well, probably. Because they have

14:39

a structure and they say if you're

14:42

doing a 20 you get this and

14:44

you other. Yeah, well and then once

14:46

mock the week I think I've done,

14:48

you know, three or four series and

14:50

been. regularly on it and it's still

14:52

what a lot of people know me

14:55

from and book tickets from. And even

14:57

before then, so when you're doing mock

14:59

the week and you're still on the

15:01

circuit, are you getting more gigs as

15:03

a result of being on it? Yeah.

15:05

Can you charge more money? No. Well,

15:08

probably... Because they have a structure and

15:10

they say if you're doing a 20

15:12

you get this and you... Yeah, well

15:14

I was already doing 20s when I

15:16

got... got mocked the week but I

15:18

um... How does that work now? Do

15:21

they, on the circuit, yeah? When you

15:23

were last doing it, is it set

15:25

that if you're doing this length you

15:27

get this money or are they going

15:29

to say no, well this person gets

15:31

gets more? I think a lot of

15:34

the the club gigs still, it's set

15:36

rates but I think if you're going

15:38

to go and do a gig in...

15:40

sort of those little regional towns, you

15:42

know, on a mixed bill, they might

15:44

have to, they might have to stretch

15:47

a little bit further, but the club

15:49

gigs still very much so, because I

15:51

live in Brighton, so comedian is just

15:53

down the road for me, so I

15:55

still, I still gig there quite a

15:57

lot, just to work up the material

16:00

and get it. get ready to go

16:02

on at all. When you were doing

16:04

those those mixed bills, who were your

16:06

contemporaries that were at the same level

16:08

as you and going forward with you?

16:10

I remember I always remember I used

16:13

to bump into Ester Minito who's brilliant.

16:15

We came up through like competitions together

16:17

and then we both through doing all

16:19

right at competitions got booked with the

16:21

with the... the pro-circuits very well. So

16:23

Estermanita was there, Catherine Bohart. We were

16:26

on quite a few of those together.

16:28

Could you spot who you thought was

16:30

good and who you thought was going

16:32

to break through? Yeah, in fact... I

16:34

was in the same, you know, so

16:36

you think you're funny, the competition in

16:39

Edinburgh. The year I won that, the

16:41

guy who came third is, you may

16:43

know, Morgan Reese, brilliant Welsh comic. Absolutely.

16:45

I'm not sure that I do, I'm

16:47

embarrassed to say. No, he's so good,

16:49

but he came third. I'm not really

16:52

in favour of new Welsh comedians. Because

16:54

he's ready to... Yeah, I think there

16:56

should be some sort of... Yeah. Cut-off

16:58

point, really... worried that they're going to

17:00

come to come to the cruise ads.

17:02

Yes. Yes. Yes. Very much so. Yes.

17:05

But Morgan is brilliant and he smashed

17:07

his so you think you're funny set

17:09

and I remember watching the side go

17:11

well he's he's won it. And yet

17:13

he came third to you. When they

17:15

announced him coming third I was like

17:18

what's happening but we bump into each

17:20

other quite a lot still on on

17:22

on the circuit but he I remember

17:24

thinking like oh he's he's got it

17:26

he's really good yeah okay yeah yeah

17:28

I look him up on the YouTube

17:31

on the YouTube so it was mock

17:33

the week then yeah that that that

17:35

was the thing for you I think

17:37

so it there was definitely of a

17:39

sense of a shift happening just with

17:42

things like people spotting you or yeah

17:44

or you've got a very distinct look

17:46

though well yeah that is true in

17:48

terms of being memo yes yeah you

17:50

know you you're so individual aren't you

17:52

which is great it is it is

17:55

handy oh it's fantastic it's a great

17:57

thing to have that look I remember

17:59

like when I started out I'd always

18:01

try and wear like a loud shirt

18:03

you know when you start you think

18:05

all these things make a really big

18:08

difference but it did you used to

18:10

be on a lineup with like 10

18:12

other comedians and no one would ever

18:14

bother to remember your name so I

18:16

always remember thinking well if they could

18:18

go, oh the girl in the striking

18:21

shirt, or you made a conscious decision,

18:23

that's very smart. So I did, I

18:25

used to do it with like what

18:27

I wore, and then with the hair

18:29

thing it was, I always wanted to

18:31

do a bit of a mad haircut,

18:34

but never really was brave enough because

18:36

I had so much stuff in the

18:38

diary, I was like, but what if

18:40

I don't like it? And then COVID

18:42

happened, and I was like, well, is

18:44

that, is that... how the haircut came

18:47

into the... I had no idea. I

18:49

was always into kind of like... I

18:51

was always into that sort of scar

18:53

mod kind of subculture and then when

18:55

COVID happened and it really was like,

18:57

okay, all your works out your diary,

19:00

nobody's allowed to leave the house. I

19:02

was like, I'll just do it now

19:04

because if I don't like it, no

19:06

one's going to know because we have

19:08

to stay inside anyway. Don't take this

19:10

the wrong way. Did you do it

19:13

yourself? Yes I did. If that wasn't

19:15

apparent, Rod. Well Mike did it, Mike

19:17

did it. I was like, just let's

19:19

just do it. And I liked it.

19:21

And what was it then? Should you

19:23

say, let's just do it? Okay darling.

19:26

Just shave the back of my head.

19:28

That was the main instruction. Don't go

19:30

past here, just do the back. And

19:32

then... I loved it but like you

19:34

know people do take the mick about

19:36

it now I don't have the same

19:39

hair care anymore but it's still it's

19:41

still distinctive but it's um it did

19:43

me wonders for being you know for

19:45

people to clock and and sticking producers

19:47

minds and you know it's interesting the

19:49

number of times you know someone will

19:52

say to me oh I tell you

19:54

what Rob I was I went to

19:56

a comedy thing oh that was great

19:58

I say, who did you see? Oh,

20:00

it was a great girl, did this,

20:02

I said, what was her name? Yeah. They never

20:04

know the name. No, and it's so annoying because you really

20:07

want to... Yeah. My brother's a geography teacher and he was

20:09

like, oh, our staff night out for Christmas. We went to

20:11

a comedy night and he was, he was not quite so

20:13

favoured, but he was like, oh, they were blummin' awful. So

20:15

of course. Oh, yeah, literally, it was like a red rag,

20:17

but I was like, who, tell me, describe them, describe them,

20:19

what did they talk about, what did they talk about, what

20:21

did they talk about, what did they talk about, what did they,

20:23

what did they, what did they, what did they, what did they, what

20:25

did they, what did they, what did they, what did they, what did

20:27

they, what did they, what did they, what did they look like, what

20:29

they, what they, what they, what they, what they, what they, what they,

20:32

what they, what they, what they, what they, what they, what they, what

20:34

And that's why I

20:36

was like, I wish that

20:38

there was a distinctive

20:40

feature because I

20:42

didn't know. Tell

20:44

me about the road to

20:47

success in terms of

20:49

the gigs that went

20:51

badly for you. Did

20:53

you have many of

20:55

those? I would say I would say

20:58

everybody does, but I don't know.

21:00

I mean, there's always the ones with

21:02

a, you know, as I mentioned, a

21:04

couple of stag doosin who

21:06

just, it's almost better if

21:08

there's one big heckle because

21:10

you can deal with it

21:12

when it's just that drunken

21:14

murmuring over what you're saying.

21:17

But what about silence and

21:19

indifference? Yes, I did a,

21:21

my first ever like corporate. do

21:23

was a Christmas party for a

21:25

law firm in one of those

21:28

fancy buildings near like temple in

21:30

London. Yes. And are you on

21:32

a stage or just God no,

21:34

no stage? Have you got a

21:37

microphone? Yes, but I don't know

21:39

if that helped or hindered. but they

21:41

were having dinner on these two long

21:43

tables, right? Two long table in this

21:45

big grand hall. I'm getting tensed as

21:47

you just set up for it. And

21:49

I had to stand outside the hall

21:52

waiting for, listening for the CEO to

21:54

introduce me. And he tapped his glass

21:56

and everybody shushed and he stood up

21:58

and he said, um... I think we

22:00

could agree it's been a wonderful

22:02

year for the firm, but we

22:04

have lost some people along the

22:06

way. So he just then listed

22:08

the clients that they'd had that

22:10

had died that year. And then

22:12

was like, but anyway, less about

22:15

that. Moving on, we've got some

22:17

entertainment. I don't know if she's

22:19

any good yet because she doesn't

22:21

have a Wikipedia, so I've not

22:23

been able to look her up.

22:25

But Mazy Adam. So I walked

22:27

out and started doing my set

22:29

and I was booked for a

22:31

20 Rob and I I swear

22:33

I got through what was normally

22:35

20 minutes and I glanced down

22:37

at my watch and I was

22:39

on seven and it hadn't got

22:41

any laughs yet it was just

22:43

silence. That's the worst silence, the

22:45

worst. Yeah, you'd much rather have

22:47

rowdy, raucous, disruptive even, but stone

22:49

cold silence. So what did you

22:51

do? I just plowed on. I

22:53

plowed on, did every bit of

22:55

material I had. It got, it

22:57

started to get sort of what

22:59

felt like pity laughs. It started

23:01

to get laughs from just the

23:03

kind of supportive-looking women in the

23:05

receptionist. Yeah. But the, all the,

23:07

all the, all the lawyers were

23:09

these older men. who were just

23:11

sort of checking their phones under

23:13

the table. Oh, well, that's a,

23:15

incorporates that, of course, that's a

23:17

big thing now because everybody has

23:20

this access to their phones, yeah.

23:22

Yeah, it was, but I, I,

23:24

I got here and got out.

23:26

Have you learned yet to zone

23:28

those things out? Yeah, definitely, but

23:30

I also feel like I've got.

23:32

much better at corporates in that

23:34

you do not turn up to

23:36

a law firm corporate and do

23:38

your 20 from a comedy club

23:40

which is what I was doing

23:42

right now I know that you

23:44

you know you maybe have to

23:46

tailor it more to law-based jokes

23:48

or you know you brush up

23:50

on your right specifically so let's

23:52

say you're doing the sausage makers

23:54

society. There's going to be a

23:56

whole lot of sausage material in

23:58

there. Yeah, yeah. I've learned how

24:00

to to play them. It's not,

24:02

you don't play it like a

24:04

normal gig. Yeah. But that one

24:06

is accessible hasn't it? It's got

24:08

to be so easy to appreciate.

24:10

It's got to be broader. Yeah.

24:12

But the great thing is that

24:14

everybody has had bad. corporate, doesn't

24:16

matter who I've spoken to, I've

24:18

spoken to, huge names who told

24:20

me stories about when they just

24:22

died. They can be brutal, can't

24:25

they? They can go well, though.

24:27

They can be good. They can

24:29

be good. And depending on the

24:31

industry, of course, you know. That's

24:33

what always shocks me is. You

24:35

get these ones in your diary

24:37

and you'll be like, oh, that's

24:39

going to be hard work. And

24:41

I had the, you know, personal

24:43

injury awards the other month. I

24:45

had the gig of my gig

24:47

of my life, Rob. Who'd have

24:49

thought? The personal injury award. It

24:51

was like Madison Square Garden for

24:53

me. It was, yeah, it's so,

24:55

but you know, you'd have that

24:57

in your diary going, that's going

24:59

to be a tough one. But...

25:01

You just, yeah, you just don't

25:03

know. I once did one for

25:05

very high-class hotels, so the really

25:07

exclusive hotels in London. Not your

25:09

motorway premiereins. And the thing about

25:11

that was... with just how respectful

25:13

an audience they were. Really? They

25:15

listened to every word and then

25:17

they respond, you know, but you'd

25:19

start off, you think, oh my

25:21

God, they're just being incredibly polite.

25:23

So what do you, so it's

25:25

still early for you, isn't it?

25:27

It's still, I hope so, I

25:30

hope this is, you know. So

25:32

what do you, do you plan,

25:34

do you, do you visualize, what

25:36

are you, what are you, what

25:38

were you, what were you, what

25:40

were you doing before? I went

25:42

and did a degree in acting.

25:44

Oh, okay. And I thought that,

25:46

I mean, it's tricky, isn't it?

25:48

Because when I was at school,

25:50

I wasn't academic at all, Rob,

25:52

but I liked being on stage

25:54

and I liked making. king work

25:56

but I soon realized after graduating

25:58

that to be an actor to

26:00

be to be you know in

26:02

in that world is actually very

26:04

different to what what I've now

26:06

found myself doing which very much

26:08

better suited to me because acting

26:10

is so It's so cut through

26:12

and it's so dependent on so

26:14

many other people. So passive as

26:16

a career in terms of, at

26:18

least with, you know, with comedy,

26:20

there's so much more autonomy. This

26:22

is it. You write the words,

26:24

you say the words, you just

26:26

have to get booked in at

26:28

the clubs to be suddenly up

26:30

and away. Whereas acting, I think

26:32

there's so many more hoops to

26:35

jump through if you can put

26:37

it like that, but... But even

26:39

when you're doing the acting work,

26:41

you know, let's say you get

26:43

on something, I mean... It's very,

26:45

it's lovely, of course, I enjoy

26:47

it, but there's so much sitting

26:49

there. Sorry. Oh, Macy. I'm so

26:51

sorry. That just came with the

26:53

mug, I'm so sorry. If you're

26:55

listening to this Macy has lifted

26:57

up, what I think is a

26:59

complementary cup of coffee. It is,

27:01

and it's just gone everywhere, whilst

27:03

you were telling me about your

27:05

acting career. I was merely making

27:07

the, makes it sound if I'm

27:09

going, of course, in 1993. Oh,

27:11

no, no, no! I feel no

27:13

I'm no I'm sorry well anyway

27:15

she has tossed her coffee onto

27:17

the podcasting table where other podcasts

27:19

use this room oh I'm so

27:21

sorry they're gonna think it was

27:23

me no I will I'll leave

27:25

a note saying my bad is

27:27

that not cold yet no it's

27:29

it's it's it's tepid and pleasant

27:31

it's okay but please do continue

27:33

because I wanted I wanted to

27:35

know what your in 1990 Now

27:38

I used to say there's so

27:40

much sitting around and that's what's

27:42

great about about stand-up and even

27:44

you know panel shows and stuff

27:46

it's so much more bumb-bumb direct

27:48

get there jink-jink do it. That's

27:50

the word direct like you get

27:52

the result quickly you know if

27:54

you're doing well straight away because

27:56

you get a laugh or you

27:58

don't get a laugh but with

28:00

acting, I think it's so much

28:02

harder to gauge where you're at

28:04

with how it... So what acting

28:06

are you doing now then? Have

28:08

you just turned your back on

28:10

it? Well I just don't, I

28:12

just don't know. Yeah but now you

28:15

could, now that you have a profile.

28:17

I don't know. Have you lost

28:19

all the desire to do it then? I

28:21

don't know if I've lost the desire, but

28:23

I love... the things that I like about

28:26

comedy I love so much because I know

28:28

where I'm at with it and I know

28:30

how to do it. Whereas with, I remember

28:32

when I came out of acting school I

28:35

was going up for these auditions and first

28:37

of all that's it of like if

28:39

you go to do a comedy gig you've

28:41

written the material you say the material

28:43

as you say autonomy. Acting you're going

28:46

up for roles that you've never dreamed

28:48

of playing. visitor number three in that

28:50

advert, you know? But you really want

28:53

the role to build up your experience.

28:55

And the line that you say is

28:57

visitor number three in the advert is

29:00

never something that you can put, you

29:02

know, real thought, behind method acts. You

29:04

know, you can't get your guts into

29:06

the role of it. But I even

29:09

think, even if you were to get, you

29:11

know, there's a difference between playing,

29:13

let's say you play the Apollo

29:15

with your stand-up show. I think I

29:17

would like the immediacy of knowing

29:20

how well I'm doing. Then I

29:22

say, if you play Lady

29:24

Macbeth at the National Theatre,

29:27

you don't know if you've

29:29

done a good job of

29:31

that until the end when

29:34

everybody claps. And I think

29:36

that's what gets me is. I wouldn't

29:38

know. And maybe that's the silly way

29:40

of looking at it. Would you? Yes.

29:42

Are they concentrating? Are they hanging on

29:44

every word? Yeah. That's quite hard to

29:46

see for a comedian because we don't

29:48

get a lot of silence. No. And

29:50

you have to get used to it

29:52

then in the play in the bits

29:55

where they're listening or in a show

29:57

with music, you know, and they're enjoying

29:59

it, but this... But of course we

30:01

love, finish speaking, ha ha ha. That's

30:03

it, you're almost trained to dread silence.

30:05

Yes. So I think, yeah, like in

30:08

answer to a question, I don't know

30:10

if I've lost a desire, but I

30:12

do know that it would definitely feel

30:15

weird and uncomfortable to do after years

30:17

of doing the circuit, you know, and

30:19

touring with your shows where, as I

30:22

say, they come ready for a laugh.

30:24

And what's the deal with football? What's

30:26

the deal with football in general? No,

30:29

with you. And football's a big thing

30:31

for you. Yeah, I love it, Rob.

30:33

And I've always been around it. But

30:35

I've always been around it. Just enjoyed

30:38

it. I've always been around it. Yeah,

30:40

my family are all leads fans. And

30:42

I grew up going to leads games.

30:45

And I grew up watching football and

30:47

playing it. But it was always, you

30:49

know, when you're watching it as a

30:52

kid, it was always men. Yeah. and

30:54

I think now it's what's so great

30:56

is I was chatting earlier with somebody

30:59

about in 2015 when I was at

31:01

uni it was the women's World Cup

31:03

in Canada and I remember clocking what

31:06

a moment it was to be seeing

31:08

England women on the like normal you

31:10

know terrestrial channels and that felt really

31:12

special because I had you know I

31:15

knew of these names because my football

31:17

coach when I was a kid used

31:19

to sort of reference them but you

31:22

didn't really see them in the way

31:24

that you'd see Beckham and Rooney and

31:26

Lampard so it was really um it

31:29

felt like a real member that was

31:31

the one with Jill Scott actually and

31:33

Alex Scott would have been in that

31:36

team and Karen Kearney so it was

31:38

really exciting and then of course we

31:40

had the Euros and that feels like

31:43

it's really just changed. everything for the

31:45

women's game and I I love it

31:47

Rob because it's it's this it's got

31:49

the exact same I don't like this

31:52

misconception sometimes with women's football that it's

31:54

a politer game or anything or a

31:56

soft the game. It's got all the

31:59

same tenacity, all the same competitive. It's

32:01

still just as thrilling, but there's none

32:03

of the... BS that you get sometimes

32:06

at men's games of you know quite

32:08

a sort of toxic atmosphere sometimes and

32:10

on the picture or in the crowd

32:13

I think in the crowd maybe you

32:15

know I think sometimes you hear stuff

32:17

in crowds and it's it's such a

32:20

shame because it's the most popular game

32:22

in the world it should be for

32:24

everybody and you should be able to

32:26

take and that doesn't happen at women's

32:29

matches no no I mean Don't get

32:31

me wrong, there is chanting and there

32:33

is kind of, you know, jeering at

32:36

the other fan. But not the venomous

32:38

hatred. There's no awful toxicity, there's no

32:40

homophobia, you know, blatantly being chanted around

32:43

the stadiums. There's no danger for fans

32:45

as they're going to and from a

32:47

game, depending on what shirt they're wearing.

32:50

There's a lot of stuff about football

32:52

that I love, but there's a lot

32:54

of stuff that I'd change. in the

32:56

men's game that you just don't see

32:59

with the women's game. So I'm really

33:01

really enjoying that it's having this like

33:03

long overdue breakthrough into people's mainstream. And

33:06

how good were you? Oh no. No,

33:08

I was... Did you play in that

33:10

soccer aid match? Yes. In fact I

33:13

played the day after my wedding. That's

33:15

right. I'm aware of this. Yes. Yes.

33:17

Well you are devoted to football. I

33:20

just want to be around with football

33:22

heroes. It was really just that. So

33:24

that was an incredible opportunity. I was

33:27

really trying hard to keep my cool

33:29

on those days. Yeah, because you go

33:31

for like three days training where you

33:33

will stay at the, or you'd like

33:36

it, Rob Champnez, you must have gone

33:38

there. Never be there. Oh, you've got

33:40

to go. You've got to go. But

33:43

so you spend like three days at

33:45

this very fancy spa hotel, spa hotel,

33:47

and then the games on the Sunday.

33:50

But yeah, trying to sort of keep

33:52

your cool. whilst you go, you know,

33:54

they'll be like in between the training

33:57

sessions. I go, right, it's lunchtime, and

33:59

you go to the buffet in this

34:01

big restaurant in the spa, and you're

34:04

queuing behind Alessandro del Piero with Roberta

34:06

Carlos behind you, and then you go

34:08

to sit with the Usain Bolt. It's

34:10

really mad. It's really, really strange. And

34:13

lemach, of course, football royalty. Well, he

34:15

scored. He, honestly, he is, when he

34:17

walks into that room, the footballers, the

34:20

footballers. He's a hero. Because that goal

34:22

was so anticipated for so long for

34:24

Lee that when he got it, it

34:27

felt like, it felt like that clip

34:29

of Beckham when he scored from outside

34:31

the box. It was so special for

34:34

everyone. But he's like you, he just

34:36

loves football. Yeah. And to hang out

34:38

with those people. I think it's the

34:41

highlight of his year. Yeah, it's really

34:43

special. It's really, you know, how many

34:45

people can get to say that they

34:47

have. played football with the people they've

34:50

grown up watching. It's really really cool

34:52

and it's always a very nice vibe.

34:54

Apparently like back in the day it

34:57

used to be a little bit too

34:59

competitive but I've done too and they've

35:01

both been delightful. I've heard a few

35:04

stories. And it's never from the footballers

35:06

is from the non-ros. Yeah. Take it

35:08

a little bit too seriously. I think

35:11

there's a little bit of that. I

35:13

could have gone pro with vibes. Yeah,

35:15

yeah, yeah. But I won't name any,

35:18

but I do know some name. Yes,

35:20

yes. And of course, it was obviously

35:22

Lee that told me about it, but

35:24

it's not him. No, no, it was

35:27

Lee that told me about it as

35:29

well. Yeah, he delights and telling me.

35:31

If you want to know the names,

35:34

ask Lee Mack. How

35:44

good were you? You were never

35:47

good enough to... No, no, no,

35:49

no. It was never on the

35:51

cards for me to be pursuing

35:53

it. But I just really, really

35:55

loved it. And... Does your husband

35:57

love it? So he didn't and

35:59

then... when we met I got

36:01

him into it. Really? Yeah and

36:03

he's now I mean yeah when

36:05

I'm away on tour he'll be

36:07

going oh did you see that goal?

36:10

Seriously? Yeah it's mad. He tried

36:12

to get me into F1 and

36:14

I got him into football

36:16

and I can't do it. I'm

36:18

sorry if anybody likes F1 but

36:21

it's noisy. But it's also

36:23

you know I like about football the

36:25

fact that these sometimes you

36:28

know some of the best players if you

36:30

think about it of Rinaldo or messy or

36:32

Rooney. They've come, you know, not from money,

36:35

they've come from talent. I didn't grow up

36:37

knowing anybody who was carting at the weekend.

36:39

So it was just, it was something that

36:42

was always around, you know, it would

36:44

be my friends. It sort of seemed

36:46

inevitable that I would do a professional.

36:48

My father was a Carter, his father

36:51

was a Carter. his father before him

36:53

was a carter so in a way

36:55

it was almost a preordain what tell

36:57

me the name of the tour appraisal

37:00

appraisal why have you called it

37:03

that so I figured Rob with

37:05

um I figured that with any

37:07

other job so I've been looking

37:09

enough to be a professional

37:11

stand-up now for five years I mean

37:13

not doing any of those other jobs

37:15

you do when you're coming up through

37:17

the circuit and in any which were for

37:20

you what were the other jobs I

37:22

worked in retail I worked in pubs

37:24

I did litter picking I worked in

37:26

an ice cream van I did anything

37:28

that kept me afloat yes but I

37:30

figured with any other job you do

37:32

get a sort of five-year appraisal and

37:34

then I thought well actually We kind

37:36

of do get that in our industry

37:38

in that every gig is an appraisal

37:41

in all stand-up now for five

37:43

years. Are you not doing any of those

37:45

other jobs you do when you're coming up

37:47

through the circuit? Which work are you? What were

37:49

the other jobs for you? I worked

37:51

in retail, I worked appraisal of sorts.

37:53

So I figured that would be a good...

37:56

I like one word titles for a show. I

37:58

quite like that. It's nice and... snappy but

38:00

appraisal felt right with where I'm

38:02

at in terms of I'm checking

38:04

in and with how it's going

38:07

with how I think I'm doing

38:09

with you know you said then

38:11

do you plan I don't really

38:13

have a five-year plan ahead of

38:15

where I'm going well not a

38:17

plan but but things that you

38:19

would like to do or you

38:21

just I think I think this

38:23

job is so I mean you'll

38:25

know this more than me but

38:28

it changes so much right it

38:30

follows trends and and directions that

38:32

the media is going into that

38:34

I think what could be your

38:36

five-year plan will change within one

38:38

year but I think just just

38:40

bigger gigs and just more people

38:42

growing an audience yeah I'd like

38:44

to kind of blend the football

38:46

and comedy together somehow I think

38:49

there's a lot of well I

38:51

think there's a lot of punditry

38:53

and there's a lot of post-match

38:55

analysis from former players, but how

38:57

like in the men's game you

38:59

sometimes get some decent comedy overlapping

39:01

with it, you know, I think

39:03

we can maybe get that with

39:05

the women's game to kind of

39:08

make it. more accessible for everybody.

39:10

You know, I don't think everybody

39:12

wants the technical analysis. Well you

39:14

would be the perfect person for

39:16

that, wouldn't you? Yes, I think

39:18

so. But if you think like,

39:20

you know, we have things like

39:22

a league of their own. Yeah,

39:24

I think if we can... Fantasy

39:26

football and stuff like that. Yeah,

39:29

yeah, I think there's ways of

39:31

approaching sport from a comedic angle

39:33

that the women's game could definitely

39:35

benefit from. Have you got an

39:37

idea for such a program? I

39:39

don't know. But I don't know

39:41

if that would be... I don't

39:43

know if that would be... Yes,

39:45

I think she's got... But I

39:47

don't know if that would be

39:50

a TV program anymore. I don't

39:52

know. I don't know. What you're

39:54

saying to me is, TV is

39:56

yesterday granddad. I think that's what

39:58

you're saying. I didn't say that.

40:00

I didn't say that. I had

40:02

a moment two months ago where

40:04

I got about 10... texts in

40:06

about two minutes all from comedians

40:09

going have you heard Richard Osman

40:11

on his podcast talking about you

40:13

oh what does he say he

40:15

said that I was the sort

40:17

of last last one to kind

40:19

of make it through being on

40:21

TV because he reckons oh yeah

40:23

and listen well he could be

40:25

easy he knows his finger on

40:27

the pulse doesn't know what he

40:30

seriously has so I don't know

40:32

but I don't know but I

40:34

you know I'm really I tell

40:36

you what he hasn't got his

40:38

finger on his finger on What?

40:40

His diary. Oh really? About two

40:42

months ago. Yeah. We were sat

40:44

here, waiting for him to arrive.

40:46

No. Yes. No. You got ghosted

40:48

by the Osman? Oh. He forgot.

40:51

Did you send him a really

40:53

angry text? Rob. No, because... You

40:55

know what, Maisy? Come on. No,

40:57

we're all human, aren't we? No,

40:59

I think that's what the industry

41:01

needs. We need a Rob Bryde

41:03

and Richard Osman beef. We do.

41:05

And then, in fact, this is

41:07

the way it's going, Rob. Now

41:10

you get celebrities doing boxing matches,

41:12

don't you? Well, I think he'd

41:14

win. You could do that. I

41:16

think of the reach. Come on.

41:18

Yeah, he'll have a... Yeah, he'll

41:20

have a... Yeah, he'll have a...

41:22

Yeah, he don't. He'll have a

41:24

lot of money. Unless I tied

41:26

his shoelaces together and ran around

41:28

versus Osman. He's considering it. No,

41:31

well, that's interesting that he said

41:33

you were the... Well, he may

41:35

well be right. He said as

41:37

well, we're all quoting him. He

41:39

said that he thought that Gavin

41:41

Stacey special was the last big

41:43

thing show that brings everyone together

41:45

to watch it. He can't see,

41:47

you know, what's coming down the

41:49

line that could fill that slot

41:52

as it were. Yeah, I think

41:54

so as well, because how long

41:56

ago was the first episode of

41:58

Gavin Stacey? It's like 17 years.

42:00

That's mad. So it's... people have

42:02

grown up with it. 17 years

42:04

of growth. with TV as well.

42:06

I don't know if in 17

42:08

years people can grow up with

42:11

that anymore. We'll be watching it

42:13

just through our retinas through our

42:15

eyelids. Yes, yeah, yeah, like a

42:17

hologram. And when that happens we'd

42:19

be quite right to demand an

42:21

appraisal of how things have gone.

42:23

Mazy Adam is touring in the

42:25

early part of 2025 and that's

42:27

great news for so many people

42:29

but perhaps... more than anyone, the

42:32

people of abberist with, because she

42:34

is going to abberist with it.

42:36

And Maise, these shows are getting,

42:38

I'm just five star reviews, four

42:40

star reviews, that's in comedy, that

42:42

is, how many comments you see

42:44

that are either three or two

42:46

stars, you're in the paper, because

42:48

I think critics don't like giving

42:50

five stars. Let me tell, let

42:53

me tell these, um... these places

42:55

that you're going to. I had

42:57

it on a thing, here we

42:59

go, here it is. February, I'm

43:01

literally gonna read them all out.

43:03

Oh my God, we'll be here

43:05

a while. And I want you

43:07

to make a sound after each

43:09

one that signifies how you feel

43:11

about playing in this place. Okay.

43:14

Isle of Man. Excited. Okay, so

43:16

you're using words. Oh, sorry, sorry,

43:18

okay, yeah. No. One word to

43:20

describe, and you're going to run

43:22

out of superlities. We start on

43:24

the first of every, Isle of

43:26

Man, excited. Yeah. Dublin. Nervous. They're

43:28

great audience, Dublin. Yeah. You've played

43:30

there before. You've seen the ticket

43:33

sales for it. Oh, does it

43:35

need, do you need... Dublin needs

43:37

a push? Come on, did Bono,

43:39

die in vain, vain, vain, vain,

43:41

vain, come on. Belfast. Intrigued. Is

43:43

that a euphemism for need to

43:45

push on the tickets? Yeah, that

43:47

one does actually. Yeah. Bangor. Fine.

43:49

No. When I said about that,

43:51

I wasn't saying just box office.

43:54

I mean, just how you feel

43:56

about going to that town. Regardless

43:58

of ticket sales. Delighted. Delighted. All

44:00

right. Brisworth. Buzzing. That's the

44:02

8th of February. Then you

44:04

got to Manchester the 9th.

44:06

Salford, Keys. Here at the

44:08

Lowry. Grand. Yeah, you saw it.

44:11

It's lovely. Cambridge? Uh,

44:13

intellectually stimulated.

44:15

Nice. Maidstone. Uh, New. She's

44:17

struggled to come up

44:20

with anything from Maidson. She

44:22

doesn't like them. Milton Keynes.

44:24

Uh, old favourite. Tumbridge

44:27

Wells? Interesting. Canterbury.

44:29

traditional

44:32

Winchester posh.

44:34

Posh. Chelmsford.

44:37

Easy. Yeah, Essex.

44:39

Pamela, Norwich.

44:42

Far. Good though, nice

44:46

audiences. Cheltenham.

44:49

G. C.H.Q.

44:51

Stockton-on-T's. Why

44:53

I? Coventry.

44:55

Too late Aberdeen.

44:58

High up. It is my

45:00

old. You're just saying where

45:02

they are. I have to come up

45:05

with words very quickly.

45:07

Yes, but that's the game.

45:09

I want words that describe

45:11

your feelings up towards

45:14

the place. Too late. Dundee.

45:16

Very, very happy. Good.

45:18

Whitehaven. Favourite.

45:20

Hokeley. Home. I thought

45:22

you're going to say you

45:24

wanted more. Hereford. Where?

45:27

the courtyard. Oh sorry, you mean

45:29

where is Hereford? That's my word.

45:31

Really? Do you know where Hereford

45:33

is? It's on the Welsh-English borders.

45:36

I have done a gig

45:38

there before because I had to do

45:40

a car share. Who were the other

45:42

comics you were class sharing with?

45:44

Allah, the comedian. Yeah. And a

45:46

guy who's moved to Amsterdam

45:49

since Simon, Simon Evans.

45:52

Yeah, some years ago.

45:54

Oh fair enough. Years

45:56

ago. Fair enough. Well

45:59

look. Maise adam.com. It's

46:01

as simple as that. I

46:03

was up all night thinking

46:05

of that domain, Rob. It's

46:07

as simple as that. Go

46:10

and see Maise. It's been

46:12

very nice to spend a

46:14

bit of time with you.

46:16

Thank you, Rob. And I

46:18

look forward to you returning

46:20

to what I like to

46:23

you. Yeah. And if I'm

46:25

in Aberistwith on February the

46:27

8th, I'm not, but if

46:29

I am, or if I'm

46:31

in Salford on the 9th,

46:34

or where do you need

46:36

the tickets? on the 4th

46:38

of February, or Belfast on

46:40

the 5th, I will be

46:42

there. I think so. I

46:44

think so. That would be,

46:47

yeah. So come for Rob

46:49

Bryden, not me. Yeah. I'll

46:51

tell you some things in

46:53

the interval. Thank you, Maisey.

46:55

Don't spill the coffee. I

46:57

won't. I won't. I should

47:00

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47:02

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47:04

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