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up guys? Welcome back to Build and
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today I want to talk about high
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performance and falling apart. I was in
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the gym today and it was a tough
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day. It was a tough day because of
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some changes I had to make on the
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team and some of the conversations I had to
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have to navigate those changes and I was
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just thinking about how those conversations
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would have gone seven years
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ago, eight years ago,
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even in just the beginning of
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my career and I was reflecting
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on resilience and the concept
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of resilience and what that looks like
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when you're a high performer. And I
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wrote down some thoughts that I felt
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like would resonate with people listening to this podcast
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because I think if you listen to my
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podcast, you probably are a high performer,
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want to be a high performer, strive to
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do big things. You're looking to improve yourself
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in some way. And I wrote this
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for myself and also you. You
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know, I think most people misunderstand
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what high performance actually looks like.
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And I think I used to misunderstand
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it because I would listen to people
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who made content and they never talked
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about the failures. They never talked about
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the flaws. They never sounded off par. They
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always sounded perfect. They always sounded
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on. They always sounded like super motivating
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and like well scripted and polished.
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I think that that really threw me
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for a loop when I was first starting off
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in my career because I thought that I had to
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be like that. I thought that that was what good looked
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like. And I think a lot of people look at
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me or they look at other people and they think, wow, she
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or he or they must never get tired. They
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must never crash. They must never have an off
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date. They must never cry. They must never scream.
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They must never, you look at people and think
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that they are inhuman. They are the exception to
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the rule, right? And I'm here to say that
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that could not be further from the truth. What
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I've come to learn in working
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with high performers, helping high performers, speaking
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to hundreds of them every month,
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is that high performers still fall apart.
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In fact, I still fall apart. I still have moments where
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I break down. I still hit my own limits. The
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difference isn't that
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we don't fall apart. The difference is
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that we recover faster. When
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you're a high performer, you don't stay down,
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you don't dwell, you don't spiral for days. And
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that's really because you put
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in place systems, you have the awareness,
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and you have a sense of urgency to bounce back
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because you understand it's actually better for you, not worse.
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And that's really what I want to talk about today. I
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think that a lot of people assume that
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top performers are somehow immune
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to pain, to pressure, or
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failure. And they imagine this
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like upwards curve of success that like
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never did since linear. And I
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think we've all seen that the picture that I've
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seen on social media a million times of entrepreneurship
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and it's like how it looks versus how it
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feels. And it's like it looks like this linear
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line. But what it feels like is this like
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crazy up and down roller coaster that people are going
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on. And that's just the
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truth, right? If you ask any athlete,
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a founder, an operator, an artist,
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a celebrity, they're going to
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all tell you the same thing. There are
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still days when it sucks, where nothing works,
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when you're tired, when you feel fucking stuck,
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or when you're burnt out. And
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I have those days just as much as I have good days.
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And so the moment when
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your mind goes blank
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on the middle of a call, or in
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the middle of the time you're supposed to fire
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somebody, or the moment that you feel like your body is going
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to quit during a lift and you can't do anymore, or the
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moment you walk into the gym and you feel like, fuck, I
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don't want to be here today. The moment where you have to
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get on a call to rally your team and you're like, I
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can't even rally my fucking self. That
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happens to me and us
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too. And you're
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not broken, you're not wrong,
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and you're not inferior if you
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feel that. You're just
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human. The
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only thing that separates Average
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performers from high performers is
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what happens next. Do you
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sit in it for days? Do
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you let it completely do you rail your momentum in
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your life? Or do you feel it? Do
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you face it and do you do something about it? That's
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what defines you. And
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it took me a long time to
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understand this that it's not about
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avoidance of mistakes or about avoidance of failure.
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It's about what you do in response
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to those things. And
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I think oftentimes that then leads
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to, okay, what does recovering
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from adversity, recovering from
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a bad day, a bad moment, a slip up, a
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mistake, a failure really look like? Okay,
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recovery is not about waiting
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for motivation. That's a
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fucking myth. I'm just gonna be
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real with you guys. Like, I have lost
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over 100 pounds. I've gone from drinking
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and drugs to sober and having a great
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life. I've gone from being friends with
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fucking shitheads to friends with amazing people who
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are changing the world. I've gone from
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having no business to running a multi -hundred
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million dollar business. I
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can tell you, I'm still waiting
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for this motivation. I'm still
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waiting. I'm still fucking waiting. Because
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there are days when I feel motivated,
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but it is so far and few between. Like,
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it really is. It's not
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about waiting for that motivation. It's
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also not, you know, scrolling
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on Instagram, looking at Facebook, you know,
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scrolling your calendar, avoiding emails, hoping that
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you're just going to bounce back. Oh,
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I hope somebody finds a solution for
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me. I hope somebody can solve this
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problem for me. You know, I hope
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somebody's going to help me with this
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problem I have. It's like, no,
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real recovery from adversity
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is intentional and it's
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disciplined. Okay, it's choosing
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to put the reps back in, even when
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you don't want to put the fucking
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reps in. And it's rebuilding
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yourself piece by fucking piece. Returning to the
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basics, whatever that might be, and maybe it's
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food, it's sleep, it's training, it's priorities, it's
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being fucking nice to people, whatever it might
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be. It's returning
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back to baseline, okay?
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And so resiliency is how
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fast you can return back
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to baseline, right? So
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I'll give you an example of this right
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now. I have gone through so much health stuff
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in the last four months. You know, one
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infection turns into three more turns into a million
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doctors turns in all this shit that happens in
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my body because one thing affects another. And
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I have not been in my tip
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top shape. I have not, I haven't,
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I didn't until three days ago. Hadn't
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worked out in three months. I
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don't even, the last time I didn't work out in three months. I
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hadn't been walking as much. I hadn't been able to spend as much
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time with my husband. I hadn't been able to spend as much time with
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my friends. I hadn't been able to travel as much. I hadn't been
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able to do as much content. I
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felt like shit when I was showing up for
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my team. I felt like I needed help, but
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help wasn't there. And
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rather than sit and dwell on
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how bad I feel, I
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just kept asking myself, what
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is one fucking thing I can
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control? What is one thing that
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I can do in this moment
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that I have power over to take a
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step forward, to take a step away from
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the pain into my future? And
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that is what has gotten me through these last few
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months. You're just like, what's one thing? No,
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I don't like what's happening right now. No, I don't like
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how I feel right now. No, I have no fucking motivation
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to do these things. But what
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is one thing that I can do right
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now that is under my control? It's
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not me waiting on somebody else to bring me
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the thing. It's not me waiting on somebody else to
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bring the solution. What I've
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learned over time is I'm my own best
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advocate. You have to advocate
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for your life. When you fail, when you
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make a mistake, when you fall down, there's nobody
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coming to pick you fucking up. And
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every time you do let somebody pick you back up,
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rather than help you back up, right? You want
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people cheering you on, but you don't want them picking
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you back up from the floor. You've got to do
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that for yourself. Otherwise you lose respect
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for yourself. And I think
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more importantly, you have
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to decide that a setback doesn't
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get to rewrite your identity. It
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doesn't rewrite your identity. It is not who
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you are. Right. You might feel like
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a mess for a day. Right. But you
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act like a professional. That
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is high performance. That is
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recovery. Right.
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And there's a quote that I really love. My
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engine stalls too. I just
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refuel faster. And I've
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always resonated with that, which is like, that's
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my mentality. It takes fucking
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practice guys. Like I will
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have days where say I know I
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have a tough week ahead and I'm like, man,
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this is going to be tough mentally, physically. from
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a time perspective, but I'm going to tackle it.
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And then that week comes, and then I get
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thrown two more curveballs that I couldn't have even
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anticipated. I'm like, Mother of God,
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how am I going to find the energy to handle
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all of this? And I sit
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there, and sometimes I'll have a moment. I had
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a moment about a week ago, and the
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overwhelm washed over me when
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I was solving one problem that
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was important, and then an urgent problem
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that I needed to solve in the next hour
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hit me. And for
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two seconds, I just started crying at
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my desk. I was just like, oh my God, it's
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all on me. And I knew in that moment, was like,
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I don't have help. This is
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me. I have to solve this. And for a
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moment there, for two minutes, I let it
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wash over me. I felt overwhelmed. I cried at
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my desk. And then I said, OK,
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let's do something about this. You can
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do this. You can fucking do this,
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Leila. You can figure this out. And if you don't
9:08
figure it out, What's the worst -case scenario?
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Okay, this happens. Okay, you know what?
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You'll live through it. You'll be better for
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it. You've never not been better for bad
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situations. And guys, that
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right there is the difference between when
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I wasn't a high performer and
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now when I am. Because
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when I wasn't, I thought that
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making mistakes made me not a high
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performer. I thought that when I
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made a mistake or when something bad
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happened that the problem was the
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problem, not my reaction to the problem.
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But you see in those two minutes
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when I cried at my desk that
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would have been days
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15 years ago 15 years
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ago. I would have been like fuck
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everything. I want to quit. I
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don't want to do this What does this mean
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about me for how I feel right now?
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Maybe it means this isn't what I should be
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doing with my life. I would make it
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mean all sorts of things Rather
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than lots of things happen at
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the same time. I had a moment of overwhelm.
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Yes, I cried. I'm a fucking human There's
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nothing wrong with that. But
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I'm telling you, this is where you have to
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practice. And
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now here's where most people get stuck. They
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expect that resilience
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is to be automatic.
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They think, I'm smart.
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I'm successful. I've accomplished
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all these things. I should just bounce
10:29
back. They're like, I am all
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these things. Why is this not working? Why
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am I not bouncing back fast? And
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I have this come to me a lot where people say,
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like, I just can't seem to get myself out of this funk.
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I just can't seem to figure this out. I just can't
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seem to navigate this correctly. I just can't seem, Layla, to
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get back to what I was doing. I can't seem to
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get back to that baseline. Here's
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the thing, OK? Bouncing
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back is a skill. Resiliency is
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a skill. And if you've not built
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that skill, you crumble when you're under the
10:57
pressure. And when you have to be put
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in a situation where you have to be
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resilient, you're like, oh, shit, I'm actually not
11:04
that resilient. And you might not say the
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word resiliency, but that's what it is. And
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this is what I see happen over and over. What
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happens is that people say, they
11:14
personalize the failure. They say, Leila,
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you don't understand. I'm fucking weak.
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I can't do this. I
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need somebody stronger. I need to hire someone to
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do this. I think I need to sell
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my company. I need to. What? It's
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like you take it so personally. Oh
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my gosh. You are so special that you
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failed in a way that is
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so unique to this universe that there's
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no coming back from it. Nobody has failed
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to this degree before. Nobody has failed
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similarly to you before. You're so special that
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you are the only person on this
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earth that can't figure this out. And
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that must need help. And
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it's funny because I know what I'm saying, but
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this is how I say it to myself.
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People have had these situations
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before, and they've overcome them
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before. And if they
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have, then so can I. So
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can I. Right,
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and here's the thing. The next thing
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people do is they wait for
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inspiration instead of taking action. Listen, if
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you're sad, depressed, frustrated,
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angry, you're laying
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in bed, you're watching Netflix, you're
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avoiding life and responsibilities because of something
12:18
bad that happened, I
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am fucking here to tell
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you that that's not gonna help. Okay,
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taking action will help you.
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Waiting. Waiting to feel
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inspired. Waiting to feel motivated. It's not
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gonna help. It is not going
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to help you. It will only make things worse. You
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are making it poor when it
12:39
just rained. Now, there's a fucking hurricane.
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I can't tell you the amount of people that reach out
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to me and they're like, Lila, I'm depressed. And
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I'm like, heard. I've been there
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before. What are you doing? And
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they're like, I'm in bed all day. I'm doing
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this. I can't seem to get out of bed. Your
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legs work, right? You can get out
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of bed. What are you saying? The way
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that you're talking to yourself is the problem.
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The way that you're responding to sadness and frustration
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and moments of depression is the problem. Guys,
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I remember being there. I would say, I
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can't get out of bed. I'd be in
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bed all day. The blinds are closed. I'm
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so depressed. But
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I didn't make it any better. And
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same with being angry. Same with
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being frustrated. It's like, oh
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gosh, well, I don't want to take action until
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the feeling goes away. If you take action, the
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feeling will go away. It's
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not the other way around. You must
13:30
take action first. Emotion
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follows motion. If
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you get up and you move your body, if you get up and you
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do things, if you get up and you see friends, I
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will tell you this. You
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will feel better whether you
13:45
want to or not because that's how the brain
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and the physiology of our bodies work. So
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you can't wait for inspiration. You
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have to take action before you feel inspired. There's
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no inspired action happening here. Now,
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the third thing I see is
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that people go into isolation instead of
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leaning for people on support. I
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will tell you this, when I
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am facing adversity, when I'm having a hard time,
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the hardest thing I've had to learn is how
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to lean on people, how to
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ask for help, how to call for
14:18
people to support me during that time. Even
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just the other day, I had to have a
14:23
series of really tough conversations and I was
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working on some really Just
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nasty issues and I had to
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make a couple phone calls and I said to Alex I
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said can you come into my office and he came in there?
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I'm on the phone. I'm handling convo He's not talking and
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he says he's like why am I in here? Like what do
14:37
you need me for and I was like honestly? Honestly
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so seldom but like right
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now honestly emotional emotional support I just
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need support. I just need you here. You
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make me feel good. I love you. You make
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me feel safe I just want you here
14:50
while I'm doing this and I'm having these conversations
14:52
and he was like, okay, that's great. I'll
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do that for sweetie and That was
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something that used to be so hard for me to
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do. Because I felt like what
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a waste of time, what a waste of
15:03
this, but I'd rather be honest up front with
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people like where I could use support to do
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something that's better for all of us. And
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if you're leading a family, if you're
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leading a team, if you're leading, then
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you doing well for that team, you
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doing well in general as an individual
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helps the whole team. And so
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there's going to be times where you want to lean on other
15:23
people to help you. And
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for me, I've realized
15:27
that these are times when we
15:29
fall, when we slip up, when we make a mistake.
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Learning to be resilient, part of that is
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learning how to use your support network. It's
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learning to lean on people and allow
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them to help you, allow them to
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allow yourself to lean on other people at times. And
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I will say, it's still probably the hardest thing
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for me to do to date because for most
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of my life, since I was a kid, I
15:51
had to lean on myself. I didn't even have
15:53
a mother to lean on. I
15:55
learned to just take care of myself,
15:57
just handle it myself, handle my feelings,
15:59
handle my responsibilities,
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handle my life on my own. But
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man, does it feel nice when you
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finally just relax and say, you
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know what, I can have other people
16:10
help me carry the load. I
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don't need to carry it on my own. And
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here's the thing, when people repeat
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these patterns, you know, they
16:19
personalize the failure, they wait to be
16:21
inspired before taking action, and they go
16:23
into isolation, This cycle
16:25
just repeats,
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right? And what you see is if
16:29
you look at people who are high performers, is you'll
16:31
notice that they don't live there. They
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don't live in that spot. I
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call it the valley, like the valley of despair.
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They don't live in the valley of despair. They
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don't do that. They don't waste their time wondering
16:42
what it is all mean. They
16:44
just do something about it. They say, fuck it.
16:46
Let me take one step forward. Let me try
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one thing. Let me see if I can push
16:50
one thing forward, which
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brings me to this. How
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do you actually build that skill? How
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do you become resilient? How do you bounce back?
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Right? The first thing is
17:03
that you have to re -anchor to structure. Okay,
17:06
the fastest way to build momentum is
17:08
to go back to non -negotiables. Maybe
17:11
that means wake up at the same time, move
17:13
your fucking body, eat well,
17:15
track your work, set one
17:17
thing to do for the day and get that shit
17:19
done. Structure is
17:21
an anecdote for spiraling. It
17:24
forces you to act your way
17:26
back into confidence. Because remember, confidence
17:28
is an output, not an input.
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Action is the input to confidence. And
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so you're not going to think your way out of this.
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You're going to act your way out. You don't need to feel
17:37
good to take action. You don't need to
17:39
even think the thoughts to take action. You just need
17:41
to get your body to do the thing, to take
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the step, to do the rep, to eat the food,
17:46
whatever it is. You will feel better
17:48
as a consequence. That's it. Your
17:50
job right now is to get your body
17:52
to move. to do these things. Wake
17:54
up at the same time, move your body,
17:56
eat clean, track your work, set a
17:58
win. I don't need you to
18:00
feel good, and I don't even need you to think good thoughts.
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I just need you to do it. That's
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the first thing. The
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second thing is that I
18:09
want you to set, this is going to sound weird, a
18:12
minimum viable identity. What
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does that mean? You're like, what? Okay,
18:17
when you feel off, you do
18:19
not need to be your best self. you
18:21
just need to be your baseline self.
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Okay, and so this is a trick I've got, which is like, I
18:26
ask myself, what would the disciplined
18:29
version of me do right now,
18:31
even at 50 % capacity? Okay,
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and so what that means is that I'm still gonna
18:36
show up, even if I'm not at 100%. So
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what's that look like for me? Maybe I'm not gonna
18:40
work out, but I am gonna go on a
18:42
walk. Maybe I'm not gonna
18:44
eat two a tea as I plan to,
18:46
but I'm gonna eat two out of three meals like
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I planned. Maybe I'm
18:51
not going to get all the work done and
18:53
want to this week, but I'm going to tackle
18:55
this one project. So
18:57
if you're a leader, go
18:59
communicate something to your team. Go support somebody
19:01
on your team. If you're an athlete, do
19:04
a minimum viable workout. Get some reps in,
19:06
even if they're light. And
19:08
if you're building something right now, go
19:11
make progress on that project and ship
19:13
that shit. The
19:15
point is that you
19:17
need to set a minimum viable identity
19:19
for yourself. Even on your worst days,
19:21
these things happen. I know
19:23
for me, anchoring in somewhat
19:26
of routine, even on the days
19:28
I'm sick, I'm tired, I've
19:30
had something terrible happen, it
19:32
helps me get back to my baseline. It
19:35
helps me do better. And the last
19:37
thing I will say is this, the third thing
19:39
you do is you create a bounce
19:41
back ritual. Okay, this is
19:43
a personal system for when you fall apart. So
19:45
when you're like, holy shit, I do not feel good.
19:48
This is not good. I do not like
19:50
what's happening right now. This might look something
19:52
like you take a 10 -minute walk in silence.
19:54
It might look something like you're going to call a
19:56
friend or a mentor. Literally
19:58
just write down three things that you
20:00
could do that will help you bounce back.
20:04
It might mean that you need to go listen to
20:06
a book or listen to a certain podcast. It should
20:08
be something that's automatic and easy for you to do. And
20:11
so the moment that you realize that you're slipping, you execute
20:13
it. I know I've got at least
20:15
two books that when I feel like I'm slipping up,
20:17
when I feel like I'm about to have a moment,
20:19
when I feel like I'm, oh, I'm off balance, things
20:21
aren't feeling good. I have a book
20:23
that I'm gonna listen to, and I know that when
20:25
I listen to that book, it helps me re -center
20:27
myself and really refocus. My favorite thing to
20:29
do is listen to that book when I'm taking a walk. I
20:32
always feel better after. So,
20:34
here's the thing. High
20:36
performers are not robots,
20:39
and they're not super humans, right? They
20:41
are just obsessed with getting up
20:43
faster. And so we don't
20:45
waste our time pitting ourselves. We
20:47
don't let fear or
20:50
shame or exhaustion dictate
20:52
what we do. We don't.
20:54
We act, we adjust,
20:57
and we reload. So
21:00
what that means is that you are
21:03
allowed to fall apart. You are allowed to slip up.
21:05
You are allowed to make mistakes. You are allowed to fail.
21:07
That's OK. Tell yourself that. You
21:09
just don't allow yourself to stay there. You
21:11
don't allow yourself to live in the valley. And
21:15
so the next time that you feel that way,
21:17
and you've stalled, and you're like,
21:19
I need to be resilient. I need to do it later
21:21
this time. Ask yourself, what's
21:23
my structure I can go back to? What
21:26
identity can I have from? And
21:28
what can I do today right
21:30
now to bounce back faster? Okay,
21:33
and that is the difference between average and elite. Elite
21:36
is not perfect.
21:38
Elite, practice.
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