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Do you even know you? How
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well do you know yourself? How
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well do you even know what makes you tick, how your
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brain works? What are things about you
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that matter the most, that shape the way
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you should even shape your life? Do
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you
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even know you? I
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did not know myself in 2014
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the way that I thought I did. And
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when I took a personality assessment,
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it completely changed not only
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who I am, the view that I
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had of who I was and
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ultimately the vision and the strategy
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for the life that I ultimately designed
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and began to live. And I'd like
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to share with you today all of those
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things that I learned and invite
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you to go out and get your own test
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and gather
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those insights yourself.
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Welcome to Build With Rob. Welcome
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to Build With Rob. We're
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back at it again, living life to
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the fullest, continually getting better
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in any way, shape or form that we can
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till the day we die. Because
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what are we? We're just, you know, these complex
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machines that we're just trying to move to more complexity
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so that our output can be
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higher with less effort. That's
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what the whole philosophy is all about.
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That's what the show is about. And
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what I like to, of course, do is share
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different things that I've experienced along
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my journey in developing the philosophy
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and living it on an ongoing basis.
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And I know so many of you heard me talk
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about the importance of taking
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a personality test
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or an assessment about yourself. And I
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wanted to share a couple that
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I took that really changed
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the path and the direction of how I ended
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up designing both the DeerDeck machine
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and ultimately even my life. Because
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I didn't fully understand who I was
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even though, you know, I was 38, 39 years old. And
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of course I...
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I understood exactly who I was.
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You're deep 30s. You don't know
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who you are by then. What are you even up to? I'll tell you what you're
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up to. You're
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trying a million different things, hoping one thing's going
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to work, going in a million different directions,
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trying to do everything you possibly can, hoping
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that one of those is going to be the thing that makes you happy.
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That's somebody that does not fully understand themselves.
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That is somebody that's out there trying
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to hustle their way into a life
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lottery ticket.
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Like, man, put in the energy. Let
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your soul be sucked all the way out of you and then
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try to fight for it to get back in and hope
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that somehow that produces some
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sort of significant
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life moment that makes everything
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great. That's
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what I went for. And it didn't work. It didn't
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work. It was just, you know, I don't even know how
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to describe it. When I think about myself in 2014, I feel like my entire body's like
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spread open, being
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pulled in a million directions, and I'm
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just every muscle in my body is squeezed
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as tight as possible. That's
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like how I picture myself.
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Versus in 2023, where
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I got them ooey gooey Tom Brady muscles,
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you know what I mean, where I feel like I'm just barely
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even like existing in
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the world
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that you know it. I'm just sort of floating
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through space and time,
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enjoying every moment of it. Much
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different experience, but it started
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with getting a much deeper understanding
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of who I was.
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And I never thought about it. It
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was never something I ever considered. No one
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had ever mentioned it to me. And
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the great Chris Smith from Arrive Consulting who
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I had hired at the time to help me begin
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to develop the vision for the machine and everything
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that I needed to do felt that
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it was really important in taking this innovative
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personality test called Insights Discovery,
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which essentially gives you a much deeper
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look into
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who you are and...
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like
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we know exactly who we are and keep running
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into the same problems thinking
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if some outside force or if
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it just becomes successful or this happens
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or that happens that I
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won't feel that way anymore when the fact
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is just who you are and how you're
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designed does not fit
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with the way you've designed your
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strategy. And
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you know the very first
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thing when the insights profile
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kicks off and it look insights discovery
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is so hardcore it's like when
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you read it for the first time it feels
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like somebody followed you for a year
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and they're just calling you Rob and Rob
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does this and Rob does that it's like
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okay you know me and
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I didn't even you're right I am like that I didn't
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realize that but here's the other thing
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about it too is it also will validate
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the good things about you
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you know it's it's not all about just like getting
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the assessment and being like oh I oh
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I didn't realize that was my problem it's
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not about that it's it's about understanding
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and giving you the validation
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on the stuff that you are strong at your
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strengths like the way that you actually
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are and you can connect it back to the
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things that work best for you and you'll
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see that like okay that makes a ton of sense
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I need to do more of that oh and I understand
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that weakness like that is me I need to
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stop doing that
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let me share with you a couple of these you know
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this starts off with you know Rob likes to
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make things happen and drive everything around
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him he may in
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reality be less competent at
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a specific task than his confident
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style indicates
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just get me right across the face right out the gate
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hit me right across the face
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right out the gate because it's man
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I'm like God that's so true like I
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will
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you know I'll step into a situation
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and speak confidently about something
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I sort of know just
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in an effort to keep the whole thing moving and keep
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the vision pushing, you know, and, and
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for me, that was something
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that I
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almost knew I was doing subconscious,
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but having it be read back to me of like,
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this is what you do. It's like, Oh, man, that
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is true. I need to be more thoughtful
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of it. And it just brings the awareness
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of like, hey, don't be so
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confident in the things that you
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don't fully understand. You need to lean on
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and have people around you that
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can help you develop the confidence
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through clarity and understanding rather
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than just continually pushing your idea forward
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based off of speculative
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understanding and confidence
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that you have. It just, it
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shifted me in an instant of
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something that I needed to
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apply. It says he feels constantly
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drawn to beginning many different projects,
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yet failing to complete them. He
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allows his energies, inspirations
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and insights to become
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dissipated. He has a high energy
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is always striking in a forward direction.
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He follows his impulsive impulses
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moving strongly towards his goal. He
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prefers
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to deal with a variety
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of situations, people and events
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all at the same time. And again, that's
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really validating like,
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man, I do, I do all of these different
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things. And so instead
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of me, because what was I struggling with back
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then was like, am I doing too much? Oh,
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I'm doing too much. And it wasn't
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like that I was necessarily doing
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too much. I needed them to
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be more organized and be
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more cohesive so that
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they were all serving a larger purpose.
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But I still got to fulfill that need
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to constantly be trying
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new things and having a handful of different things
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going at the whole time. And when I shifted
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the positioning of everything
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I
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I'm doing to like, how is this affecting
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my overall happiness
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and life?
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And
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it's really now the first time
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that you're reading the truth about yourself.
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And the truth about yourself
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is so hard to see when
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it's mixed between all these desires
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and wants and needs and lack
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of clarity and complete understanding
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of what you're doing or why you're doing it where you're just
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trying to make something
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work, hoping that it presents itself
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to you. And then it all settles down
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and gets clear like it's that that
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way of of not understanding
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yourself and no one you know is going to be able
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to say that about you.
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Tell me about me. Good friend,
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best friend, girlfriend, wife,
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mother, father, because you know where they're going. Going
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straight to your weaknesses. You know what
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I'm saying? Look, go
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out and take 20 personality
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tests, any type of test that there are
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to give you feedback about who
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you are before you ever ask somebody
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close to you.
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Because all they're going to do is
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take the opportunity to hit
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you with all the things that they think you're
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bad at. That's it. You
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know what I mean? And then they'll hit you with one solid
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good one. And you're a good person. You're a good
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person.
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Don't rely on friends, family
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or even anybody close to you to
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give you insight into
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who you are. Take the time, effort,
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and energy to take
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a bunch of different types of these tests
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just to be able to make that
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assessment yourself. Get
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the information. Understand what connects
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with you and what you can do
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to apply it and make yourself better.
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You know, it goes on to say he's an enthusiastic
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innovator who is dynamic, assertive,
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and interested in success and the
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success and the status that it can bring.
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He prefers to improvise on the spot
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and get started right away instead of preparing
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and planning ahead. He values
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inspiration above all else.
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and constantly strives to turn his
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original ideas into reality. A
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reality that may not seem real
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for others. And
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when you hear that, you think, well,
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that's Rob. That's why he's been
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able to do all these different things and
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been able to push through all these different projects.
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And when you think about even he prefers to improvise,
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it's why I freestyle this show. It's
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why I freestyle ridiculousness. It's
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why I work really well
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when I have a sound structure because
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I can improvise inside a great structure,
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but still have trouble putting in the
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time and energy on the planning side
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to make it easier and trust
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in my ability to go out and just
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give it all I got and get close. And
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you see all of that, and
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you understand all of that. And
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when you think about his inspiration
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above all else and strives
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to turn these ideas into reality, it's
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making so much sense to
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who I am and what I do and why I've been
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able to have the success
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that I've had. But when you read,
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which may not seem real to others,
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is where I've had to slow down
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again and get the insight of like,
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man, you've got to be able
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to articulate what is
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in your mind and the reality you
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see in the future in a way
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that others that you need to actually
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help get you there understand it.
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You can't just keep running
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over people and just say, no, just trust
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me. This is what it looks like. This is how it is. I
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had to stop continuously
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just trying to give
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my vague vision to someone that,
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to me, that was incredibly clear and
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then assume that they understand it. And
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if they don't, just push forward
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and hope that they figure it out along the way
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or expect them to figure it out.
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along the way. And again, just
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these insights that just shaped
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how I communicated and how I thought about
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myself as it related to
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the stuff that I wanted to do and achieve,
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what was hindering me, what were the positive
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sides, what was slowing
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me down or potentially stopping me,
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just in an effort to
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understand me better, to
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communicate better, to
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ultimately achieve what
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I had a vision for in the first place.
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Another thing that
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was said in that insights, one is he's
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a smooth talking persuader. And
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that I will argue both sides
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based off of what outcome I
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want. I can have a strong opinion on two
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different sides. And that one hit me like a ton of bricks
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because it's like, man, sometimes I will
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just argue the other side just to argue the other side.
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And it's like, I remember thinking to myself like,
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man, that is like literally the worst trait.
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That's your worst trait. Because then
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like now, even though you, someone's
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challenging you and you believe
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in their, the way they've challenged
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you in the idea, you'll argue
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super intently, dynamically
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and articulately against it. And even
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though you know their direction was really even
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where you want to go, you convince them that's
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the wrong direction because you have the ability to argue
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the other side because you're you
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just don't feel like saying yes
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to them.
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What an odd, terrible
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trait to have. I basically
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have had to just like learn to completely
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stop that. And I have over
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the years where it's just an occasionally
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it'll slip back in, you know, I think
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about like,
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when it's a gray area where I could go
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either way, I will then argue
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against the other side in an
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effort to try to understand what direction
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I do want to go.
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But you know, 10 years ago, I would
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just do it to do it. do it. You know,
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just do it to be like, well, no, you
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could actually do this. And
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it says, sometimes
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he is so intent on his own plans
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that he does not stop to
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listen to what others have to say. With
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his boldness and abundant energy,
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he may get the impression that
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the task itself is significantly more important
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than the people involved. And it and
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again, it's
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just a sentence and an assessment.
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And it just changed me like
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reading all of that together was like, man,
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it was just saying like, hey, validating
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my entrepreneurialism, my ambition,
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my vision, my ability to see further
18:44
into the future, all of these things that that
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are validating to the type of
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person that I was. But
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then the blind spot
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was how being like that can actually
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affect all of the people around you
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that you need to realize
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the vision, you know, and and again, I
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just got better and better at understanding
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those things, hearing those things when
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I was doing them. And in
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over time, doing them less and less
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knowing that that is sort of my natural
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flow. Right. And when
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you get hit with Rob's strengths,
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what's Rob's strengths, motivates
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others to quote, achieve the
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impossible, right? Strong worth
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it work ethic, enjoys a challenge
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sees innovation as a necessity,
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brave,
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daring, bold, swift,
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agile, creative, future
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oriented, visionary, original,
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inventive thinker, highly
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resourceful, excellent communication
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and presentation skills.
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Feeling good. I'm feeling good about myself,
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feeling good about myself. Now it's it's validating
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like the things that I felt about
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myself because
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what do you as
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an ambitious, hardworking, successful
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person, you spend so much time
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growing confidence and building belief
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in yourself that these type of things
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become part of who you are and it's
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validating. But when you
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look at Rob's weaknesses,
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he takes leaps into the unknown
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and may ask others to take these leaps
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into the unknown without explanation.
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As difficulty delegating, likes
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to do it himself, takes too many
20:34
unjustified risks, dislikes
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and avoids routine tasks, loses
20:40
interest when the initial challenge
20:42
is gone, protects his ego against
20:45
all comers, rocks the boat
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by challenging convention just for
20:49
the sake of it, may not dot
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all
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the I's and cross the T's, becomes
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impatient with routine and repetition
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and makes decisions hastily.
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And I know to everybody is
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like, well, that's not you. You're the systems
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guy. You're the automate design,
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automate, optimize guy. This can't
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be you. And I'm telling
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you
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that reading those weaknesses
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is what drove me into the discovery
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of like how, hey, like
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I need to gamify
21:26
routine. I need to turn
21:28
it into a more systematic
21:31
approach and tie it to a purpose in order
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for me to do it. Because the reason
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I struggled with all of those things and,
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you know, the reason that I was constantly taking
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leaps into the unknown and
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trying to do everything myself and,
21:45
you know, constantly taking unjustified
21:48
risks. That's why I had to completely
21:50
design the machine method
21:53
and my process
21:55
for building companies. Otherwise, I'd just
21:57
get excited by
21:57
an idea. Let's just do it. And I would.
22:00
Like end up, you know having struggles
22:03
or it not working and then be like, oh, why did that
22:05
happen? Like oh, I shouldn't have put all that money.
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It was just constantly that so
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I had to build the system That
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protected me from me
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and then I ultimately had to build
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the life system the same way that Protected
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me from this sort of natural
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way of being that where my weakness is
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You know that that's really what led
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to me Understanding what are
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all the things that you need to build to
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support and and and help
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defend yourself against your natural weaknesses
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and and then lean in and
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amplify your strengths, right and and
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It's the life that I have today
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is because of this assessment
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because I It was the first
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time that I really really began
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to understand Who
22:57
I was and what made me
22:59
up and what did I need to do?
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to become the best version of myself
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and that was figure out ways to Mitigate
23:07
the weaknesses and lean into
23:09
the strengths and and you
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can't do that unless you
23:14
have some sort of you know data
23:16
point or Somebody or something
23:19
in the case of a
23:20
test like this to help
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you see yourself from that position
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and it will it will absolutely
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and
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Completely change your life and I just think
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that you know throughout my life I
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take as many as I can
23:34
on an ongoing basis and you're you're
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just trying to create the awareness
23:40
So that you understand yourself
23:42
on a higher level to make a better
23:45
version of yourself, right? And
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recently I took one house, you know, I was so curious
23:49
about how my mind worked Okay,
23:51
I can compartmentalize and I but
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I still like it, you know move from
23:56
thing to thing to thing like, you know
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Some things I'll procrastinate on some things
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like I'll work on 20 things at once
24:02
like you know is there some
24:04
sort of test for my mind and I ended
24:07
up finding a test that's called
24:09
project evo which is what type of brain
24:13
type you have and you
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know I ended up with what they call
24:18
a alchemist type
24:20
of brain and in this particular
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like assessment test it told me discovering
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instant interesting patterns across
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multiple contexts you have the ability to
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zoom out from specific
24:34
context you're in and see things at a high
24:36
level you can observe patterns
24:38
across multiple contexts where
24:40
others see limited ideas and thoughts in
24:42
common don't reduce yourself
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to working exclusively in a
24:47
single narrow row
24:49
or field as this reduces your
24:51
ability to see patterns
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and it was like man you know
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it's so true to
25:00
exactly the way that I view
25:03
my everything and how I see
25:06
like you know how the machine
25:08
integrates into my life and how
25:11
the philosophy integrates into
25:13
my work and and my
25:15
life and and everything
25:17
and what does it look like in the future and how is
25:19
everything that I do integrate together
25:22
and creating a single sort of story all
25:24
of that way of thinking is allowing me
25:27
to even be in a position
25:29
to where I'm being
25:32
able to create this philosophy in the first
25:34
place right and it's it's
25:37
incredibly interesting because
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what it also tells me is like hey like
25:43
you have to continually master
25:46
how to keep all of these
25:49
different things going on an ongoing basis
25:52
and make sure that they all serve a singular
25:55
purpose and know that you
25:57
can you have to limit how many
25:59
you take
25:59
on it once. You have to
26:02
understand that aspect of
26:04
yourself because that's where you're only going
26:06
to get caught up is when you end up
26:08
trying to have too many things and then you have
26:11
too many and now you're overwhelmed, you're
26:14
out of capacity as I talk about it. It's
26:16
just again giving me further insight
26:19
to what
26:21
in the way that I think and in
26:23
a lot that I've already understood about
26:26
myself but continuing to validate
26:28
it. It says your superpowers,
26:30
creative problem-solving, you see
26:33
nearly all problems you
26:36
face as interesting challenges. You
26:39
may view a challenge to automate them
26:42
or make them more fun so you have
26:44
time to focus on things that matter to you.
26:47
What? What? That,
26:51
you know,
26:52
it described exactly
26:54
the process that I went through
26:56
to develop even this entire concept
26:59
of continually to automate things to make
27:01
them more energy neutral and gamify them
27:03
to make them more interesting to you even though they
27:05
may be hard and difficult. You
27:08
know, it again
27:10
just validating this
27:12
continual evolution of
27:15
who I actually am and the way
27:18
that I think and of course the weakness
27:21
getting bored and distracted easily
27:24
when there's a lack of variety of pursuing
27:26
fresh ideas and
27:29
you probably have a hard time keeping
27:31
your hands out of all the pies because
27:34
everywhere you look you see possibilities
27:37
for something new and better. And
27:39
again it is like
27:43
every test that same
27:46
sort of theme keeps coming back and
27:48
it's undeniable and rather
27:51
than trying to change who
27:53
I am it's having the awareness
27:56
and understanding of who I am so
27:58
that I can now
27:59
apply, um, this
28:02
understanding of myself to, to protect
28:05
myself from myself
28:07
at the end of the day, it's just getting
28:09
the information and knowing what your weaknesses
28:12
are in creating systems and solutions
28:15
around allowing you to thrive and be the
28:17
best version of yourself and do the things
28:19
that you need to do a variety
28:22
of different things on an ongoing basis,
28:25
but build everything in a way
28:27
around that to make sure you don't end
28:29
up doing too many and
28:31
then lose focus or,
28:34
um, become overwhelmed and
28:36
not be able to do anything at
28:37
all. Right? Like it, it is
28:39
the value of these different assessments
28:42
that just is this deeper insight
28:45
that has allowed me to continue
28:47
to evolve.
28:48
And I really just wanted everybody
28:51
to hear,
28:52
to hear my view of them
28:54
a little bit more deeper rather than
28:56
I always kind of talk about how important it is, like
28:58
go out and do it. But I wanted
29:00
to give you context on
29:02
what I learned about myself and then how I applied
29:05
it because I really do think everybody
29:08
should go out and take is, is these
29:10
tests on an ongoing basis, just there,
29:13
you know, look for brain tests and personality
29:15
tests and work tests. Like all
29:17
of them are worth taking 15,
29:19
20 minutes to do. And then just
29:22
reading
29:22
through, uh, and
29:24
understanding yourself further to
29:26
continually, uh,
29:28
figure out ways to be
29:31
more efficient and better at strategizing
29:33
how to become the better version of yourself,
29:36
because that's all it's about.
29:37
That's all we're doing down here. Getting
29:40
better every day in
29:42
every way.
29:43
It's the machine way. Uh,
29:46
yeah, it's too far. It's too far. We don't have a machine
29:48
way. We don't have a machine way. Appreciate
29:51
you always, uh, being a part of
29:53
the show, listening to it, thankful for every single
29:56
one of you like and subscribe wherever you
29:58
listen to the show.
29:59
And you know what you gotta do, you gotta always
30:02
be looking out in the future. You always gotta
30:04
be strategizing. You always gotta be working.
30:07
Until next time, see ya, believe it, do it.
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