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what
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type of reality are you even
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live in what type of reality
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are you living are you living
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a proactive reality where
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you're continually problem solving
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and looking at all the different ways that
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you could manipulate guide or
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push your reality that you
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want in your favor or
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are you living a reactive
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reality where you just continually
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allow what is going to happen happen
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it is what it is what can i do
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i don't have any control over any of this
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just ping pong paying pong
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get knocked from one thing to the next
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that and they're complaining all sad
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that nothing's changing walk and tell
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you right now if you
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live in a reactive reality you
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need to stop because if you really
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want to live the life of your dreams
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you have got to start living
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a proactive reality
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program
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to bill with rob let
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me take you back to nineteen eighty six
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when little robbie was just how
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nervous shaken poland
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the phone book open looking for
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the name of the local skate shop all
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their it is that s's surface
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higher i
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don't know what i'm gonna do but how i know they got
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a ramp and i want to skate it okay
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my parents already said no okay
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we're not going to pay for you to skate a ramp
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it i've just a what what should i do should
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i just
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not to that just but i want to skate
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this rare but how can i do it should i even
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to okay well i guess look i'm
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just gonna call i'm just gonna call their
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it is five
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one three to four four
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nine six nine six bling
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bling bling
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the law hey
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how are you syrup the hey hey hey
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hey how are you this is rob
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money robby robin dirac
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And I just, I really, would
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you be open, like, if I got 10 people
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to come to the skate shop and pay to
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skate the ramp, would it
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be okay if I got 10 people if I skated for
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free?
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What? Oh,
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um, if I got people to come and
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pay, what are you saying? You
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would, if you get people to come and pay,
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like, 10 people, man,
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look, this is, nobody's ever called here
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trying to sell us on, like, getting people
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to pay, like, so that they could skate
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for free. Look, what's your name again? It's
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Robbie. Robbie Dyrdek. Why
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don't you come on down here and you can just skate?
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And boy, man, hung up the
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phone, closed the yellow pages.
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I don't, I don't really know what transpired
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from that point forward, but next
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thing you know, you know, Gene
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had me in the Price Brothers company
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van. He's sitting shotgun, you
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know what I mean, and drove me down
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to the skate shop where they had a mini ramp in
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the back and they introduced me as,
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hey, this is Robbie. And he just
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called and said you would let him skate
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for free. They're like, oh yeah, go ahead. And
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what did little Robbie do? He
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went back there and dropped hammers.
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Little Robbie was back there doing backside bonelesses
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and hand plants and Smith grinds.
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And they're like, what? Like,
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you've never, have you ever skated a ramp? And it was
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like, no, I never, I never skated a ramp.
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They're like, this is, if this is the first time you have
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ever skated a ramp, this is insane.
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Like, you know, if you're
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open to it, we would like to invite
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you to skate here all the time because
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you've got a lot of potential. And I just remember
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thinking to myself, what,
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what does that mean? Was it like a skate word?
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Is potential a skate word? You
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know, telling, telling little Robbie
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that like, hey, here's, here's your opportunity,
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right? Like, and what happened?
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it.
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I began to go there every day because
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where my father worked was right down the street
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in downtown at a Price
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Brothers selling suits and he
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would take me in the van, drop
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me off at the skate park, the
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skate shop at the ramp and I would skate every single
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day. And what happened? I
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began to get recognized, build relationships. Next
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thing you know, I accelerated,
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felt validated, built confidence
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and you know,
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to the chagrin of Patty, I'm quitting
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high school at 16 to turn pro. I'm
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quitting high school to turn pro at 16
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years old and I'm off to Europe for
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the for the world championships, right? And
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would have that ever have happened if
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I wouldn't have not
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taken no for an answer when my
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parents said we're not going to pay to skate in that
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ramp? And I began to
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explore some aspect in
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some way to make a decision
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on what could I do to change
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my circumstance in this form of reality.
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And it set into a chain reaction
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that led my life into a completely
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different trajectory. And I
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say this as an example,
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as it's one of the
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first times that I remember
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using it, but I would go on
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to use it on an ongoing basis
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in every aspect of my life. And
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I still do to this
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day. I
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mean, I just refuse
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to just allow things
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to be what they will be. If I still
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have some sort of way to shift
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it, to push reality in a different
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direction, I still to this
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day do everything that I can to try
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to to guide the
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reality that I want by
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any means necessary. And it requires you
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to be creative. You have to look at your entire
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existence as this beautiful continuous.
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creative problem that
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you have to constantly be
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looking at different ways that
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you can find solutions to
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guide you towards a better higher probable
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future that you would like to experience.
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You know, think about that. It's all
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the things that you want to achieve, all
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the things that you want to do big and small.
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You understand there's multiple pathways
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to ever do it and you have
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to continually look at it and
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assess it for what are the things that you can
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do to step in and
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change, you know,
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what the reality of the situation is and
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you can do that. But
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it requires proactively
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coming up with ideas
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and thinking of different things
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that you could possibly do in order
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to shift your reality
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back towards the reality that you
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desire. And if
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you began to see the world through that lens
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of like, are you sitting back and
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being in a reactive state
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where it just, this is what's happening
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to me and it is what it is. Or
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are you looking at your
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situation in a proactive way
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and what are all the things that you can do that
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can change your future state?
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And look, you know, you have to
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look at it no different than
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any other form of action
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or purpose,
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you know, in the sense of like you can't
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just be in a wishful
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form of trying to be proactive. You
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can't just, I couldn't have called up the
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skate shop and said, hey,
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you guys should really
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think about helping like the
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guys like me that don't have any money
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to skate that really want to skate the
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park. Like, could you just find
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it in your heart to support me? I'm Robbie.
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No, like it like what? No,
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like, you know, like we
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don't we just
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programming night and
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it wasn't a success, you know what I mean? And
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the network had decided that it
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did no longer wanted to commit in
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this very heavy male programming
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slate and they've decided that they were
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only going to keep one show
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from the slate and it really came
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down to were they going to keep
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Fantasy Factory on the air or
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they were going to keep Nitro Circus? And so
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at the time, you know,
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the network had let me know. They said, hey,
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you know, just want to inform you guys
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that we're not picking up the next season yet.
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Like right now, the network
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is trying to decide whether
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or not they want to go forward
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with Nitro or Fantasy Factory.
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Oh man. Oh
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man. So what am I doing?
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What am I doing? What am I doing? So I'm just
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sitting here, you know, and I got, look, I got, you
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know, you got to think about who I was back then.
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It was utter chaos. You know, I was making
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millions, spending millions. I had movies
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and street league and just utter
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complete chaos of
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just insanity that
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I was trying to manage and organize and
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keep it all, you know, together in between
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partying and just, you know,
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living the Fantasy Factory life, doing stunts,
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getting attacked by sharks.
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Chaos. Chaos. And
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faced with all of that about to come
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to an end. And
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I'm just gonna sit back and wait. Hey guys.
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Hey guys. That's crazy. Let
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me know. Let me know. Hit me up.
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Let me know if my TV career is over. Let
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me know. Just, just shoot me a text.
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Let me know. Email me.
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Hey Rob, it's over. Back
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on that skate life. No,
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no, no, no, no. I called the head
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of the network. Cold called the head of the
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network. No, like, hey, can we set a
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call? That is called the head
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of the network.
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and it's Rob Dyrdek would
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like to speak with you. Can you
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have him call me back? Old school
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stops. It's
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funny to me when I think about now where it's like this
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world where you set calls and now you set
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Zooms. The
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idea of just like cold calling somebody
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that runs a network and then be like, here's my
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phone number, can you have him call me back? When you've
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never even spoke to him before?
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You never even spoke to him. And
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I did.
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And we spoke
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and the conversation was literally
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me helping him decide on
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not picking Nitro Circus.
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You know what I mean? It was like this man, we
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talked it out on the pluses
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of Nitro Circus and the pluses of Fantasy
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Factory versus the negatives of
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Nitro Circus versus the negatives of Fantasy
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Factory. And he used me
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as a sounding board. It was the most bizarre
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conversation ever where
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I, and I'm sorry to all my Nitro
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guys.
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Don't forget I currently own
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a stake in Nitro Circus all
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these years later despite walking
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it off the plank back
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in 2009. But
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I had convinced him. I said, hey, the
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reality of it is we're story driven, we're
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more like character based and it's
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more a reality show that's more
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about following the characters and
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really these stories and adventures. It
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has a much broader appeal,
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crosses over into the female audience.
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We have a larger female demo
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than Nitro who's primarily action
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sports focused and stunt focused. It's
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very, very heavily male. And
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I knew that
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these guys were not finding
13:48
the success
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with the two male programming. And
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that if I made it seem like we were more
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appealing to a broader
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audience, females specifically with our story,
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storytelling and friendships versus
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like these guys that are just doing stunts,
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cheating death. Girls don't like
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that. You know, I, I, and in, in the conversation
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was him working it out in his head. He's like,
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yeah, you're right. You're right. Yeah. You
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know, I'm for sure fantasy factory for sure. Like, and
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I,
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that random cold call convinced it.
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We got the call two days later that, okay,
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season three is up. Let's go. You
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know, and
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easily.
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Somebody else could have gotten his ear. Who knows
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what could have happened that could
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have changed that. And then that's it. Television
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is done. Ridiculousness never happens. You know
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what I mean? Who knows? You know, like
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the entirety of, of shifting
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your reality is,
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is what's capable, but you have to be
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continually creative
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in how you may be able to do that and
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be thoughtful in how you may be able to do that.
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And I know there's some of you that are listening to this that are going
14:56
to send me an email just trying to change
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my reality.
14:58
Here's my
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mug business that I think would be perfect for
15:03
the deer deck machine. Changing my reality. Like,
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it's not
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the just asking
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somebody, just
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taking the shot isn't how
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you're going to shape or evolve the
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reality of your current situation.
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You've got to have a clear understanding of
15:22
what are all of the things that are potentially
15:24
driving it that could make the difference
15:27
for you to change it.
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And there's so many parts
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of your life on an ongoing basis
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that you
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can continually look at how to proactively
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shift rather than live in that reactive
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state. And I'm not saying
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it is, is always so
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incredibly clear. And
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I do think it gets more clear, the more,
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you know, the more dire the situation,
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the more stakes there are to the situation.
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But there's one thing that is absolutely.
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certain in life. If you
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are just know some
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sort of inevitable thing that
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is unfolding that
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you think you may have a little
16:10
bit of control on, may be able
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to influence, but you sit back
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and then just sit in this sort of like,
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what was me dwelling, wishing
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it wouldn't happen. Like if you sit
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toggling in your mind of dwelling
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on all the things you could have done that
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prevented you from even being
16:29
in this situation or putting
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all this energy into just wishing
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things were different. Instead of
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getting back into taking action
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and being proactive in
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thinking and problem solving and creating
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a possible solution to
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make sure that you at
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least do your best to take a shot
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at making just a small shift in
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your reality that leads you to
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the experience that is better
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for you and what
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is the outcome that you desire for the life
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that you want. You
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got to think that through and take that shot. I
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was faced with
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a bizarre
17:13
situation when we were selling Super
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Jacket
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and thrill one
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media as a whole where we did
17:22
a deal with a private equity group
17:24
and merged with Nitro Circus and Street
17:27
League and we're then
17:29
going to sell the roll up and
17:32
all of us would get an
17:34
exit after
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the roll up. So essentially they
17:40
merged Street League, Nitro Circus
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and acquired Super Jacket and
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then in two years they were
17:47
going to go and sell them again. For
17:50
me it was a cake and eat it too deal where
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I got cash up front and then
17:55
when they sold it as the group
17:58
then I got this massive
17:59
Payday. So I was super incentivized
18:02
to continue to grow Superjacket
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with the intent of selling the whole company
18:08
together. And I did that.
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Oh boy, did I do that. I drove
18:12
this thing. I did everything
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I could to take the entire thing to the next
18:17
level. And it was time
18:19
to take this thing to market.
18:21
And the private equity group decided that
18:23
they did not want to do it.
18:26
They said, you want to know what it's getting too
18:28
valuable. We would rather wait a couple
18:30
years.
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And I'm like, what on earth? Like,
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you know, I tried to complain and be like, that's ridiculous.
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You know, I tried, I, I, I didn't know what
18:38
to do because in my mind, that was
18:40
the entire strategy. You know, we,
18:42
we put them all together because we're going to turn
18:45
around and create this
18:47
big liquidity event. That's going to be
18:49
life changing. That was the entire
18:51
purpose and plan. And then I worked for two years
18:53
to position the company to
18:55
have that life changing moment. Only now
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they decided they didn't want to do it. They
19:01
decided it was too valuable and
19:03
that rather than, than do it now,
19:06
let's keep growing for a couple of years.
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And it's like, what,
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what, what, like
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that's not in my plan. Like I, I,
19:17
I got it to this moment to,
19:19
to create this moment in time. I'm masterminded
19:22
this whole thing. And now I got
19:24
to wait and anything could happen
19:26
over the next couple of years. And
19:28
so
19:30
what do I do? I stew, I stew and I
19:32
think, and I think, and I think, and it's like, what
19:34
can I do? What can I do? What
19:37
can I do? The only thing
19:39
that I could, I realized that I could
19:41
actually do was the main person,
19:45
the main partner at the private equity group
19:48
was
19:48
the person that would have to make the decision. Everybody
19:50
else I was talking to was like, no, we really love
19:52
where it's going. We want to hold onto it. And
19:55
so I, I had to begin
19:57
to gather information and leverage on
19:59
what,
19:59
be some sort of reason that would force
20:02
and want them to bring it to market. And
20:06
I
20:07
understood that their initial
20:09
investment in Nitro Circus was from
20:12
Fund One. And it was at about
20:14
the nine and a half year
20:16
mark already. And funds have a 10 year
20:18
horizon. So I know
20:21
that like they've got to return capital
20:24
soon to the initial investors in
20:26
that Fund One. So I'm like, okay, why no,
20:28
that's it, right there. Like
20:30
you really want to push this thing beyond the fund
20:32
horizon. Now I learned and understood
20:35
the private equity side and what's a lever for
20:37
them. And then what's
20:39
the thing that I knew would
20:41
be the thing that would scare
20:43
them the most is we had gotten
20:45
super jackets so profitable off
20:47
of the success of
20:49
ridiculousness
20:51
that if they thought that that was at risk,
20:55
if they thought that was at risk, that
20:58
that would be something that they would rather
21:00
have it in market now, instead
21:03
of in a couple years from now.
21:06
And so I just
21:08
decided to make
21:10
the call
21:11
and text the managing
21:14
partner and basically just said, look,
21:17
we just came out of the pandemic, the stimulus
21:19
is hitting like everybody's flush
21:21
with cash. Like you are
21:23
on the final year of the horizon
21:26
of the fund and every month
21:28
after August, this company
21:30
becomes worth less and less until
21:33
it's worth zero next
21:35
year. What,
21:36
what, what's that? Like
21:39
I just shot it and that was this
21:41
like, like bizarre, like
21:44
manipulative way of saying
21:47
like,
21:48
hey, like ridiculousness may
21:50
not even be around in a year. Right.
21:53
And it was like, what? And
21:55
all it did, like, I
21:58
didn't say that I didn't make it.
21:59
any overt
22:02
threat that ridiculousness
22:04
was going away or there was something awry
22:08
with Superjacket,
22:10
I just said it is a possibility,
22:13
right? And all that did
22:15
was spark this, like,
22:18
wake him up to be like, yeah, what am I, what
22:20
are we doing here? We've been in this for long enough. Let's
22:22
get this thing to market. And
22:25
they immediately got it to market and
22:28
sold it within six months, making
22:30
the biggest payday in
22:32
my entire life.
22:35
Biggest payday of my life sold
22:37
that company for 190 million.
22:41
And it was a absolutely life
22:43
defining, life changing
22:47
transaction
22:49
that could have never happened.
22:51
If I didn't step in and
22:55
really force the issue and
22:57
then drive them
23:00
to get it to market, it
23:02
may have never happened.
23:04
And it's just the idea
23:07
of, and some examples of throughout
23:09
my life where I've
23:12
just haven't allowed what is to
23:14
be and looked
23:17
into different and creative ways on
23:19
what I could do to reshape
23:22
or change the actual
23:24
direction and influence the reality
23:26
that I wanted rather
23:29
than just sit back and deal
23:31
with whatever comes. And
23:33
you will
23:34
find that you have the opportunity to
23:36
do that in so many different aspects in
23:38
life, but you have got to be
23:40
searching for them, be creative
23:44
and how you approach them. But above
23:46
all, you got to take the shot.
23:49
You got to take the shot. Because
23:52
if you do it and
23:54
you see it work and you do
23:56
it more and more, and then
23:59
you know it is a
23:59
a tool in your toolkit that you can
24:02
apply to more aspects and
24:04
more areas of your life, you will
24:06
begin to see how being proactive
24:10
towards shaping your reality is how
24:12
you actually control
24:15
a lot more aspects of your life that
24:17
seem uncontrollable and you
24:20
can be the decision and the
24:22
action that actually drives reality
24:26
towards the reality
24:28
that you desire.
24:29
You can do it because that's what we do
24:32
down here. We do it. Thank
24:35
you again for everybody for
24:37
tuning in for interacting
24:40
and everything that we do appreciate all
24:42
of you from this day and forever
24:45
because I know you got the vision. I
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know you're figuring out a plan if you fully don't
24:49
got it locked in and I know because
24:51
you listen to this show you're willing to
24:53
put in the work. Until next
24:55
time, see it, believe it, do it.
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