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1:18

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1:22

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1:24

that because before we bring

1:26

out our guest for our

1:28

master's class, let me bring

1:30

out the heart and soul

1:32

of busted open, the

1:37

innovator of violence, the

1:39

landlord of the house of hardcore, and

1:42

the heart and soul

1:44

of professional wrestling. Tommy

1:50

Dreamer,

1:54

WWE

1:57

Hall of Famer, TNA

1:59

Hall of Famer, the most

2:01

decorated tag team wrestler

2:03

of all time, Deathmatch

2:06

God, Caffe Zilla,

2:09

the Prince of Prime Rib, and

2:11

a damn handsome man, the

2:14

one and only, Bully Re…

2:23

WWE Hall of

2:26

Famer, the world's strongest

2:28

man, a

2:30

world champion and not one,

2:33

not two, but three

2:35

different sports. The

2:38

king of the Caribbean himself, Mr.

2:41

Mark Henry. And

2:47

of course, our

2:49

guest of honor. I can

2:51

say without a doubt, the

2:54

best moment of my

2:57

career is here with

2:59

you at Circa tonight because

3:02

the greatest of all

3:04

time, the Nature

3:06

Boy, Rick Flair! All

4:30

right. Thank you. All

4:33

right. So, without further

4:35

ado, welcome to

4:37

Busted Open's

4:39

Masters Class!

4:43

How are

4:46

you, Rick? I'm great. Glad to be

4:48

here. Oh, so happy to be here. Honored,

4:50

thank you. I mean, this

4:52

Masters class is all

4:54

about promos, and I don't

4:56

think there's any doubt that the

4:59

greatest promo man of all time

5:01

is you, Rick. Oh,

5:03

thank you. I tried. Thank

5:06

you, sir. David, maybe we

5:08

should call this the Jedi

5:10

Masters class because we have

5:12

the master of the ring, the master

5:14

promo. Rick Flair. Mount Rushmore.

5:16

Yeah. I mean, there's no bigger,

5:19

there's no better. So this should

5:21

be the ultimate Jedi masterclass. There's

5:23

no bigger that we could do with having

5:25

with Rick here. So yeah, man, this

5:27

is our space mountain. It's awesome. You're

5:29

right. No, you're right. It wouldn't be

5:31

we are on top of the world

5:33

Right here on the top of circuit. Thank

5:35

you very much It wouldn't be

5:37

the Mount Rushmore. It would be Space

5:40

Mountain Like that's what it would

5:42

be called. It wouldn't be called

5:44

Mount Rush Mountain. No, no,

5:46

this ain't Space Mountain Everybody still

5:48

got their

5:50

clothes on Please

5:52

don't get me canceled again Rick,

5:57

when you talk about promos, I mean,

5:59

there's nobody better than when you had

6:01

the microphone in your hand, so...

6:03

Yeah, but it's because I was allowed

6:05

to say what I thought, and

6:07

I, you know, much to my dismay

6:09

sometimes, I actually

6:12

lived everything I

6:14

said. One

6:18

of the reasons I've been

6:20

divorced four times. At

6:24

18 to 28 bullshit at

6:26

the Marriott did not work

6:28

out No boyfriends no husband.

6:31

Why are you saying that? Give

6:34

us a raise. I need

6:36

so big deal. Where's your wedding

6:38

ring? I don't know Forgot the

6:40

words So for you Rick like

6:42

you hear stories and you know

6:44

pro wrestling in 2025 We as

6:47

fans we don't know what

6:49

scripted what's not scripted, but for

6:51

you When did you come up

6:53

with the promos that we would see on

6:55

TBS at 6 .05? You know

6:57

I've been bucket the

6:59

night before And I committed

7:01

five o 'clock take a

7:04

shower and go to

7:06

TV and I just basically

7:08

It's a gift. It's it be honest

7:10

with you. I just thought of it

7:12

on the fly and

7:14

Really motivated by Dusty. I

7:17

think Dusty and I you

7:19

know We both

7:21

argued about who could get to follow

7:23

each other. Does that make sense?

7:25

Yep. Because I wanted to hear what

7:27

he had to say. And I

7:29

mean, making no mistake, Dusty was a

7:31

class back in great talk. Roddy

7:34

played for the same way.

7:36

So I'm honored that you

7:38

guys hold me in

7:40

that league. But it

7:42

just came to me

7:44

naturally, know? Custom

7:50

made clothes, diamond rings,

7:52

Rolex, Wern. I don't

7:54

know. Having a hard

7:56

time holding the delegators down. I

7:59

don't know where I got this

8:01

shit from. So I'm

8:03

curious, you know, because

8:06

we've now seen NFL

8:08

players, hockey players, NBA

8:10

players, speaking lines from

8:12

promos that you made in 1984

8:14

and 1985. So how does that

8:16

make you feel when you hear

8:18

that? It

8:20

makes me think whether they have

8:22

YouTube And that you're able

8:24

to go back and look at

8:26

the things in the past

8:29

You know, it's a different

8:31

world now as we traveled

8:33

the difference now is that

8:35

even with the two

8:37

companies The guys only get to

8:39

travel You know with the people

8:41

that they work with that makes sense

8:43

where I was traveling around

8:45

the world and really living

8:47

experiences by myself and I

8:50

could I could tell you a story

8:52

you wouldn't believe but it was all

8:54

fun and then I would get

8:56

to a microphone and I'd have

8:59

to make sure it was PG but

9:01

I just would tell a story and like

9:03

a space mountain thing and

9:05

I said because it's true

9:07

85 goes right through

9:09

Atlanta right into Orlando

9:11

right so I said

9:13

I just thought of one there that'd be cool

9:15

so I said all you girls that are

9:17

headed to Orlando

9:19

to ride Space

9:21

Mountain. You

9:23

can pull over at Riverdale Row

9:25

and at the Marriott and you

9:28

can ride it for free. And

9:32

you

9:35

don't have to get in a room, you can stay with me.

9:41

Who comes up with that shit? I don't

9:43

know. Hey Rick, was there

9:46

anyone who ever got you or stopped

9:48

you in your tracks when you had a

9:50

microphone, if you're having, because you would

9:52

sell it like somebody shut you up and

9:54

then you were like, had to think

9:56

about it, but then normally you got, you

9:58

threw a punch, they it. I got this

10:00

all the time. Yeah,

10:04

Jay, class act, what a great guy

10:06

he is. He can do me

10:08

better than I can do myself. He

10:12

can do Macho Man, me, I

10:14

mean, Jay, Jay is a very, very

10:16

talented young man. Nate,

10:19

your promo is obviously being legendary. You said

10:21

what came off the top of your head.

10:23

The who, what, when, where, why, and how.

10:26

I'm over here, Nate. Jay doing. Oh,

10:28

I'm sorry. He's hard

10:30

to miss. No,

10:32

I thought I've been looking at a monitor.

10:36

Don't worry about those cameras.

10:38

Do you remember the first

10:40

time somebody actually handed you

10:42

lines and told you you

10:44

need to say this? Yeah,

10:47

and a boy, I really struggled

10:49

with it because with the

10:51

WWE as an example, there

10:55

are so many bullet

10:57

points that you have to remember

10:59

that you get lost with

11:01

your creativity gets lost. That make

11:04

sense? because they want you to say the

11:06

name of the pay -per -view. The

11:08

event, I mean, it's like, we didn't

11:10

have to do any oldies. I would

11:12

just say, I would talk about

11:14

five opponents at the same time

11:16

and make it entertaining, but when

11:18

you have to memorize, you

11:21

know, the pay -per -views

11:23

and plug the date and wear and wear

11:25

and on, it just, it

11:27

exhausts me. I had a really

11:29

hard time. I drove Ben Koski

11:31

crazy. He'd say

11:33

please. Just

11:36

say what they wrote down. Don't

11:38

say one thing, God. I mean,

11:40

boy, you know, everybody,

11:43

you walk back in the grill,

11:45

they call that the production area.

11:49

Either Vince was like this or he was

11:51

like this. And

11:54

I got a lot of

11:56

these. But

11:58

how exactly does Vince

12:00

McMahon what does Vince say

12:02

to Ric Flair when he's

12:04

quote -unquote? Reprimanding you for

12:06

not saying what you were

12:09

supposed to say What didn't

12:11

reprimand me he just said

12:13

he goes 80 80 promos

12:15

don't draw money I Said

12:18

really

12:20

I

12:22

said well everybody is saying them Me

12:25

wherever I go so somewhere they

12:27

got over I mean I Can't

12:29

remember one promo. I didn't

12:32

say this to him what

12:34

I wanted to say I

12:36

can't remember one promo that

12:38

they've ever Recorded about you

12:40

there's someone repeating I Could

12:43

say it to him now

12:45

No, but I'll give you an

12:47

example and this is this is the

12:49

compliment of the guy the Miz Who

12:54

the guys gave a very difficult

12:56

time to get in the business because

12:58

he came from? What

13:00

show is that real world? Yeah,

13:03

and the guys I mean they

13:05

actually made him change in the

13:07

public locker room for a year

13:09

the guys were so brutal to him But

13:12

when he goes to work now,

13:14

he survived it all But he

13:16

will look at his promo and

13:18

walk around and I mean he

13:20

I've never seen a kid And I'll,

13:22

I compliment, I'll say, rather

13:24

than me, I mean, I gotta, I gotta take

13:26

a break. I can't keep looking at this shit.

13:28

I mean, sag five,

13:30

do a break, look

13:33

at the hard camera and then

13:35

the referee's talking to you. It

13:37

was just difficult for me

13:39

to learn. And then I had,

13:41

you know, major self -confidence issues. Someone's

13:45

trying to call me right now. That's

13:48

always hard for me. I've heard

13:50

you say that before. Yeah, no

13:52

I lost my self -confidence and

13:54

once I lost that then I

13:56

was lost and then When I got

13:59

back to WWE I mean Hunter helped

14:01

me and all that but once

14:03

you lose your self -confidence you're

14:05

screwed It's like it's like

14:07

if you worry about getting hurt

14:09

you don't need to go to work If

14:12

you're worried about running get going

14:14

through that table or jumping

14:16

off that ladder and shit like

14:18

that You don't you don't need to be

14:20

there because that's what you're gonna

14:22

get hurt You can't you cannot you

14:24

got to be getting your mind that

14:27

you're gonna get suplex off that ladder

14:29

and that's gonna happen, you know and

14:31

and that kind of shouldn't ever bother

14:33

me but losing my

14:35

self -confidence and then blowing

14:38

myself up and I mean just It's

14:40

hard. I've seen

14:43

other athletes do it too. I

14:48

pretty much got it back at the end, but

14:50

even like on my last match with Sean at

14:52

WrestleMania, man, I was

14:54

nervous as hell. I've never had

14:56

anybody except Harley Race tell me

14:58

to shut up and listen to

15:01

them and keep my mouth shut.

15:03

And that's what he said to me. And he walked

15:05

out the door and said, let's do this. And

15:08

that was it. And I messed up

15:10

a couple spots and Sean

15:12

would be buying me. But

15:15

I mean, I just, I didn't have it. And

15:17

I was 59 years old,

15:20

which was probably part of the

15:22

issue. But even to this

15:24

day, I experienced extremely

15:26

good health. I don't

15:28

hurt anywhere. That's

15:30

why I did that last match. And if

15:32

I hadn't had a heart attack, But

15:35

I had a heart attack

15:37

during the match, which I didn't

15:39

even know All right, let's

15:41

just let's just that statement if

15:43

he didn't have a heart

15:45

attack during the match It would

15:47

have been a lot better.

15:49

No, no, and he didn't even

15:51

know no I passed out

15:53

twice during the match and I

15:55

was like this and I

15:57

was going tag you for tag you for

15:59

tag you for tag and I

16:02

woke up right and then so

16:06

Because I've had

16:08

those four different heart surgeries, I

16:10

go in and I'm pretty conscientious of

16:12

it. I finally had

16:15

what's called a

16:17

calcium score, which I'd

16:19

never done before. All the tests I've had, and

16:22

this is a year ago, the doctor said to me,

16:26

you know, they give you all the tests and all that, and

16:28

they tell you, Jesus,

16:31

Chef Barry, calm down. No,

16:35

he, He

16:38

said to me,

16:40

he said, how do you feel? I

16:43

said, I feel great. Why? He

16:45

said, your calcium score is 800. Normal

16:47

is 250. Damn. He said,

16:49

you've had a heart attack in the

16:51

last two years. And

16:53

I said, have you been sick? I

16:55

said, no. I said, I passed

16:57

out in this match that I had

17:00

in Nashville. He said,

17:02

that was a heart attack. And all I

17:04

did was go back in locker room, drank

17:06

two bottles of Gatorade, went out and drank

17:08

with Kid Rock all night long. I

17:11

didn't feel it. That

17:13

make sense? What does

17:16

your doctors tell you now? Like, you

17:18

know, I'm an old ass dude. Well,

17:20

the reason I'm not on TV now

17:22

is that Tony didn't know it was

17:24

on blood thinners. And I've been

17:26

on blood thinners because I had a real bad blood

17:28

clot in my leg at one time. That's

17:32

why Tony at Sting's last

17:34

match, then I had already

17:36

made a blade, I was

17:38

ready to go. He said,

17:42

no, I don't want you to do nothing. Hey,

17:46

Dr. Flair, I make blades for all

17:48

the guys in the old days, okay?

17:51

Rick, make me a blade, okay. Get

17:54

me a scissors and some Johnson and

17:56

Johnson tape. What are

17:58

you talking about? Hey,

18:02

I don't know. I don't understand. I've

18:05

wrestled some guys over the years. If

18:07

I couldn't cut myself, man, we weren't going

18:09

to make a good match. Jesus.

18:13

You try wrestling Rufus R. Jones for

18:15

an hour. Whoa.

18:19

Love you, Rufus. Brother, that's

18:22

a long all Broadway. Bulldog

18:24

Bob Brown. Oh,

18:26

man. Can I just recap

18:28

some of the things that this man has said?

18:30

sorry. If

18:33

you really think of how much he loves this business

18:35

and how much he loves you, he's

18:37

literally willing to blade while he's on

18:39

blood thinners. Another

18:42

part of him, I remember when he came back to

18:44

WWE, Bully was there, I don't know if Mark

18:46

was there, we were on Raw, and we're

18:48

all marking out because Ric Flair is

18:50

part of WWE. We

18:52

did not know about his confidence issues.

18:54

It speaks volumes to everybody listening

18:56

and everybody here that the greatest of

18:58

all time was going through something

19:00

mentally. and none of us know it, and

19:03

what he went out there

19:05

and did when he had no confidence, when

19:07

he's really at his lowest. No, I'll tell

19:09

you how bad it was. I haven't

19:11

told a lot of people this. When

19:14

you have, I had

19:16

what's called gorophobia. You know what that is? You're

19:19

afraid of Rhino? No, you're, you're, you

19:22

don't, no. Were you whining? You're afraid

19:24

of absolutely funny. Every once in

19:26

a while, funny. Hey, 'all clap for that.

19:28

That was what Tommy Dreamer made of funny.

19:31

Gauraphobia. The later it gets, the more

19:33

alive he becomes. That's a phobia

19:35

of crowds. Gauraphobia. Another espresso martini. leave

19:37

the room. And I

19:39

would get, it's when you're afraid to leave

19:42

the room. There was a movie

19:44

that Sigourney Weaver made years ago, right? We're

19:46

saying you couldn't leave the room and all

19:48

that. I had that. And

19:51

I used to have to drive to the airport. And

19:53

I'm biting myself. And

19:56

I couldn't feel my fingers. And

19:58

then I'd be in the ring and I couldn't feel my hands. I

20:01

mean, anxiety

20:03

is brutal.

20:06

So what was the wake -up call? Who

20:08

got to you and said, you're fucking

20:10

Ric Flair. You're the greatest of all

20:13

time. Who was that person that

20:15

did that? Oh,

20:18

Hunter told me that.

20:20

All my friends would

20:23

say that. But it's

20:25

still... But once it's I still

20:27

haven't got I mean, I'm not

20:29

very confident in my life right

20:31

now and everything but once you've

20:33

had anxiety Little things can trigger

20:35

it. You know what I mean?

20:37

It's like now for the first

20:39

time in my life I'm living

20:41

alone really because what Wendy and

20:43

I We still see each other,

20:45

but I'm living alone tonight. I

20:48

was telling someone last night that

20:50

Like what what do I had a heart attack

20:52

and I actually think about shit like this

20:55

Do you guys remember Swede Hansen?

20:57

Yes. Yeah. Well, Swede

20:59

in the 70s, watching

21:01

TV, had a heart attack,

21:03

and they didn't find her for two days. And

21:07

he lived. But,

21:09

you know, later, and

21:11

you can't, boom. But nobody, so,

21:13

I mean, I was just telling

21:15

this story last night to the

21:17

girl that I work with. And

21:20

to my agent, I just... I've

21:23

never been alone. But

21:26

I can't find a woman that can stand me long

21:28

enough to live with me. Some

21:31

of us are not meant to conform. Apparently

21:34

I have

21:36

issues. Here's

21:39

the one thing I don't think people

21:41

understand, and I get

21:43

it. Unless you've ever suffered

21:45

from anxiety, you will

21:47

never understand how paralyzing

21:50

it can be. Oh, shit.

21:53

And to knowing how it could be

21:55

in the ring, like you can

21:57

have your best. You can have Shawn

21:59

Michaels or Hunter or Randy Orton or

22:01

anybody that you love or respect

22:03

tell you, come on, you're Ric

22:05

Flair. You're the best. You're that. It

22:07

doesn't matter because the anxiety has

22:09

taken over and has shut you

22:12

down. Yes or no, Rick? Yes. Yes.

22:15

Yeah. Is there anybody in here

22:17

that's claustrophobic, they're like small

22:19

places, mess with you? I got

22:21

put in the coffin. I

22:23

got put in the coffin. You

22:25

got what? For seven minutes.

22:27

Got a coffin? Oh,

22:29

with taker? With taker. Oh, yeah.

22:31

No, hey, hey. And there's air in

22:34

there. There's air in there. And

22:36

there's air in this room right now.

22:38

Yeah. But I could not breathe. And

22:42

I jumped out of the coffin

22:44

and had to run outside and see

22:46

the sky for me to be

22:48

able to go. Yeah,

22:50

I was, I called Marcus

22:53

and about to pass out. I

22:55

said, Mark, you can do anything you want to do,

22:57

brother, but I ain't going to that coffin. I

23:01

never had to thank God, but even

23:03

when I've been arrested a couple of

23:05

times, I've begged the cops to put

23:07

the cops on me like this and

23:10

they go, Rick, they got to go

23:12

behind your back and I go, please.

23:15

I've only been arrested twice, but I mean.

23:19

Rick, I want to ask you... Actually, I

23:21

don't want to ask you about that. No,

23:23

I changed my question. No, no, no, I

23:25

forgot. I forgot. I wanted

23:27

to follow up on

23:29

something. So we're in Columbia,

23:31

South Carolina, and

23:33

Rick is getting ready for a really big match. And

23:36

I was just dressing where they're going

23:38

to do this pre -tape. And he's

23:41

looking at himself in the mirror, and

23:43

he brings out the blue robe, and

23:45

it was a really, really big match.

23:47

And if you go and look at

23:49

his book... It's on the back cover

23:51

his book of triple H and bully

23:53

or holding Rick and I'll never forget

23:56

this moment and I'm watching it and

23:58

he starts to well up and I'm

24:00

literally looking at him and I become

24:02

a 13 year old child and I'm

24:04

like that's the nature boy that's Rick

24:06

Flair and I after he cuts his

24:08

promo and he just adjusted his robe

24:11

and like his chest and I was

24:13

like this is the man that I

24:15

grew up on and He was probably

24:17

touching 60. And I went

24:19

to the proper channels. I said, Sean, you have

24:21

to see this promo. This is a massive night

24:23

for this man. He goes out. He

24:25

main events Monday Night Raw. And without

24:27

him knowing, we hit the ring. Me

24:30

and Bully picked up. That was

24:32

Greenville. OK, I'm sorry. Greenville. I apologize.

24:34

Triple H. Yes. Tommy got hit

24:36

a lot, y 'all. But

24:38

it was such a special moment

24:40

for me to witness and I went

24:42

through the proper channels And then

24:44

we had all the boys to celebrate

24:47

our love for Rick flair and

24:49

me and bully pull him up on

24:51

our shoulders and right before he

24:53

goes Because somebody told him that I

24:55

said that and he's like thank

24:57

you Tommy and It meant so much

24:59

to me. My father was sick

25:01

And we all have this connection right

25:03

my father had five masters he

25:05

said I don't know, because we went

25:07

tonight to champions, or me and Dave were. And

25:10

he said, him and Rick Steamboat, he

25:13

said, I don't know what the rest of

25:15

those guys did, whether it was real or not,

25:17

but what this man did was real. And

25:19

he made a man who had five

25:21

masters believe. And when I think

25:23

of my dad, I think of that moment. And

25:25

then for me to give him that moment, and

25:28

then right before I pick him up, he's like,

25:30

thank you Tommy, I know this was you. It

25:32

meant the world to me. As a

25:35

fan, for what this man has done

25:37

for all of us. And

25:41

I know I get emotional because,

25:43

hey, we're all in this room because

25:45

we're connected. And this is a

25:47

guy, and I hated him because Dusty

25:49

Rhodes was my hero. But

25:52

in that moment, I realized his

25:54

greatness. And then to top it

25:56

off, on the book, me and Bully picked him

25:58

up. And then on the book,

26:00

Triple H said, hey, pick him up again.

26:02

I took the picture. It's Bully and Triple

26:04

H. picking up. I do the

26:06

job even in his book. This shit, can you?

26:11

Now let's tell the truth. It was

26:13

my idea to pick him up. Again,

26:17

man, if you think about, I

26:19

can't even think about how many

26:21

backdrops, hip tosses, how many

26:23

times he abused his body night

26:25

after night. Every time he comes on

26:27

this show, I learn something new

26:29

about somebody that I love and respect

26:32

and have hung out with. And

26:34

it's just like, yeah, I wrestled nine

26:36

times a week. One time I did nine

26:38

broadways. That's nine hours of wrestling. And

26:40

how many bumps did he take? How many

26:42

things did he do? With Ricky Morton.

26:45

And he's still here. He's still a part

26:47

of us, which is why we all

26:49

love this guy, right? I

26:52

did that twice,

26:55

twice on Saturday,

26:57

twice on Sunday.

27:00

I did that with Ricky Morton

27:02

two weeks, and I did

27:04

it with Steamboat two weeks. With

27:07

Steamboat, boy, those guys, it

27:09

was easy, because I had heat,

27:11

and they were great baby

27:13

facers, you know I mean? Ricky

27:15

Morton, to me, is one of the greatest workers

27:18

of all time. And then you

27:20

find out he was drinking all night, but

27:22

not before. One

27:24

of the things that I find

27:26

very interesting is every time that

27:28

we talk to you, Everybody always

27:30

talks about you and Dusty and

27:32

you and Steamboat and you and

27:34

and and funk and funk or

27:37

Harley Yeah, but you always talk

27:39

about Ricky Morton. Yeah Well, I

27:41

bring up more than just about

27:43

anybody else Ricky Morton me because

27:45

they didn't think Ricky they thought

27:47

he was too small that he

27:49

wouldn't draw with me We sold

27:51

out everything man. We did a

27:53

thing. We did the same kind

27:56

of thing were I

27:58

don't know if you guys know the story,

28:00

but the first time I worked with Steamboat, we

28:03

went and worked a match and all

28:05

that and it didn't do that well. So

28:07

then I had him tear off my

28:09

clothes and all that on TV back in

28:11

the 70s. And of

28:13

course I've had a big ball

28:15

of socks in my underwear. So.

28:27

What is wrong with you? Hey,

28:30

hey, hey. You and Dave

28:32

LaGrette are such children. Not a

28:34

chance. So

28:36

anyway, this

28:38

is the true story. So

28:40

we took steamboat and rubbed his

28:42

face on the floor and all

28:44

that, and Harley was there. And

28:48

yeah, I need one. Hey,

28:52

let's just take it in. Just take

28:54

it in. Whoa, did you want my number?

28:56

Seven, oh four. Nine,

29:00

nine, nine, eight, zero, eight, nine. Woo.

29:07

So listen to this, guys. Wait,

29:09

hold on, hold on. Somebody wants to say

29:11

hello to you. Say

29:14

hello. Woo,

29:17

that's queen. What

29:20

are you doing, baby? I'm

29:24

telling stories. I'm

29:26

entertaining. And

29:28

I'm not drinking. We're

29:32

going to the Laker game on Tuesday

29:34

and she said, dad, no

29:36

drinking, no drinking. OK,

29:40

I love you. Well,

29:43

it's always good when you're doing a

29:45

show when your daughter calls to check up

29:47

on you. Dad,

29:50

what are you doing?

29:52

Don't embarrass me dad. So

29:55

Harley Race was just

29:57

one of the toughest

29:59

guys in the world.

30:01

So he tells the guy to go

30:04

get sandpaper. So

30:06

we took steamboat upstairs

30:08

and Harley took the

30:10

hardest grain of sandpaper

30:12

and sandpapered them for

30:14

a half, I mean

30:16

bread. And then they

30:18

put iodine on it. And

30:22

the pigment did not come

30:24

back for two years. But

30:27

you talk about hurting, man. I mean, hardly

30:29

any of this shit. Come here. Come here,

30:31

kid. No

30:33

problem. It was before

30:35

special effects, makeup. Yeah.

30:37

A young Tommy Dreamer was held down in a

30:39

locker room, and he was beat up in

30:41

the parking lot. And he's...

30:43

Was that by Raven? No. And

30:46

I got sandpapered as well,

30:48

and it hurts so much, but

30:50

when you love this business

30:52

and as well as, or, and

30:54

I'll peel it back, when

30:56

guys used to bleed internally, it

30:59

wasn't chicken blood, it wasn't that,

31:01

they would drain their own blood,

31:03

put it in a condom, and

31:05

spit out their own blood. But

31:07

you're literally, like taking somebody's draining

31:10

blood from you in the back,

31:12

and then you're popping that out.

31:16

For somebody who has been their

31:18

face grinded to get an angle

31:20

over it fucking hurts everybody. But

31:22

I would also think Ricky

31:24

steamboats going to the grocery store

31:26

getting a gallon of gas

31:28

Everybody's gonna see his face and

31:30

remember that it was you

31:32

that did it. That's why we

31:34

drew so much money. It

31:36

was real and He was over.

31:38

I mean Steamboat God. I'm

31:40

to this day when I see

31:42

him and I go what

31:44

the hell because he's been

31:46

through hell, man. I mean, Jesus. But

31:50

you talk about a tough guy,

31:52

man. He never flinched, and

31:54

Steamboat was legitimately a tough kid.

31:56

He didn't come across, he was

31:58

never a bully, but don't

32:00

think Ricky Steamboat wasn't a tough kid. You

32:03

can be baffled by who you're thinking,

32:06

who's tough and who's not, but nobody

32:08

gave Steamboat any shit. But

32:10

literally, Harley, you had to know

32:12

Harley Race, you guys would love it. If

32:14

we were on the bar and Harley

32:16

was up there, he'd go, so

32:19

who thinks

32:21

they can drink

32:23

a beer

32:25

faster than Harley

32:27

Race? He'd

32:30

look at the bartender and say, hand him a

32:32

beer, right? Open it

32:34

with his mouth, right?

32:37

And then he would say, where's

32:39

the pool table? He'd

32:41

go over with 20 people

32:44

around the table It like

32:46

Billy Bob's and Fort Worth

32:48

Asked David man in the

32:50

story and I say Harley

32:52

let's just let's just chase

32:54

women. No, no, no, I

32:56

feel like playing pool kid

32:58

He'd go over he took

33:00

a he took the cue

33:02

off the wall. There's 10

33:04

12 people around the table

33:06

probably 10 quarters Late

33:09

simple Marlboro knocks all

33:11

the other quarters off

33:13

Puts down his quarter

33:15

and says I got

33:17

the winner problem Hey

33:19

Rick Yeah, we got

33:21

the SMU the SMU

33:23

football team about beat

33:25

the shin of all

33:27

of us Harleys promos.

33:29

Yeah didn't just happen

33:31

in the ring or

33:33

just didn't happen on

33:35

TV. You're about

33:37

the third or fourth person that

33:39

told me stuff about Harley Race, him

33:42

talking at the bar

33:44

or in the hotel

33:46

lobby or him like

33:48

just walking through the

33:50

airport. He was the

33:53

real world champion. You

33:55

know when he was in that boat

33:57

wreck where the person got killed, do

33:59

you guys know the story? And

34:01

he thought he was going to jail. He

34:04

drove his 9

34:06

-11 at 110

34:08

miles an hour

34:10

into a beam

34:12

on 75 and

34:14

lived. He's trying to

34:16

commit suicide. That's how

34:18

tough Hardly Rays was, buddy. Man.

34:22

There's always the conversation of Mount

34:24

Rushmore. You're on my Mount Rushmore,

34:26

Terry Funk, Dusty Rhodes. Who

34:28

is on Rick Flair's Mount Rushmore? I'm

34:30

out much more It's

34:33

different. I I got

34:35

a I think Shawn

34:37

Michaels is the greatest

34:39

worker in the history

34:42

of it Yeah, I

34:44

would go Shawn an

34:46

undertaker Steve Austin and

34:48

No, I know it

34:51

Yeah, a Hulk Hulk

34:53

for sure, but you

34:55

know, I said it

34:58

before Steve Austin

35:00

guys I mean if you

35:02

guys knew what a

35:04

great guy he is and

35:06

Steve the tough kid

35:08

to and he's a regular

35:10

guy and a man

35:12

he He drew he is

35:14

the reason the WWE

35:16

came back No, seriously, there

35:18

were there were other

35:20

components, you know, I love

35:22

the rock and Mick

35:24

Foley and tribulation all that

35:26

but that feud between

35:28

Steve And Vince turned it

35:30

around, man. When all

35:32

those guys left, went to

35:34

WCW. And Austin,

35:37

Austin's the same guy. So

35:39

I've got, I

35:41

have, what's

35:43

that song I have on

35:45

my voicemail? Kid

35:47

Rock and Cheryl Crow. What's

35:50

it called? Picture,

35:52

yeah. So he goes, he

35:54

called me and I couldn't

35:56

answer it. He goes, What kind

35:58

of pussy ass? I

36:03

go just entertaining myself.

36:05

He's like, shit, change

36:07

that shit up. I'm

36:11

gonna see him tonight. He can drink

36:13

too, man. Stone

36:20

cold. Rick,

36:23

for you. And listen, I'm a

36:26

big list guy. I'm a big

36:28

top 10 guy. And I know

36:30

you've been asked favorite promo favorite

36:32

match for you What moment in

36:34

your career are you the most

36:36

proud of? The

36:42

truth the day

36:44

my daughter won her

36:46

first championship Houston,

36:49

Texas she beat Nikki

36:51

Bella And now

36:53

she's got 14 of

36:55

my guys And

36:58

you know, they know how

37:00

you know social media, right?

37:02

Oh, they gave it to

37:04

her because Rick play she

37:06

is ten ten times the

37:08

performer I am I mean

37:11

she could have gone to

37:13

college and played three sports

37:15

Basketball, but she hated basketball

37:17

track in the ninth grade.

37:19

She ran a 513 mile

37:21

Yeah, yeah, and then she

37:23

ended up going playing volleyball,

37:25

but You talk about an

37:28

athlete, man. Rick,

37:31

I wanted to do a show about

37:33

that. I wanted to do a show

37:35

about that. And she's a double tough

37:37

man. Tiffany's

37:40

starting to know what she's got to look

37:42

forward to. We just

37:44

have to wait for her to tie

37:46

you. Once she ties

37:49

you in titles, Then

37:51

we're going to do a show

37:53

where you can see who is the

37:55

best. She'll be the greatest until

37:57

everybody says it. But

37:59

even with her, what

38:02

she's thinking right now, what can I

38:04

do to be better? Does that make

38:06

sense? She's competing with herself. She's

38:11

5 '11", 160 pounds doing

38:13

that corkscrew move. So who

38:15

can do that shit? I

38:17

mean, nobody. I

38:20

mean But she you know

38:22

everybody thinks oh She's getting all

38:24

this. You know why they

38:26

gave me the title all the

38:28

time? Because the guy

38:30

drop the two didn't draw money

38:33

That's why they get back

38:35

to me, you know, it's because

38:37

a lot of times get

38:39

up with a baby face Nobody

38:41

wants the good guys to

38:43

have a title He heals are

38:45

better. That's why Roman it's

38:47

a great run as a heel, you

38:49

know I mean? Nate, in

38:51

the past two weeks, Charlotte has

38:53

dealt with a lot of BS. Yeah.

38:55

Any advice that you gave her

38:57

on how to make it through this?

39:00

No, as a matter of fact, I stayed out of it.

39:02

I didn't like it at all. I

39:07

don't know Tiffany very

39:09

well, no matter what time,

39:13

but I don't. I seriously

39:15

don't think that she was creative enough to

39:17

come up with all that. I

39:19

think somebody wrote it,

39:21

and I could be

39:24

wrong, maybe she's not

39:26

creative. She's a

39:28

very talented girl, don't misunderstand me. But

39:31

I just know, Ashley

39:33

will figure out a

39:35

way with Tiffany to

39:37

have the best match.

39:41

It's the most talked about part of WrestleMania. I

39:44

can only name one of

39:46

their match. Stinging her, um,

39:49

no, Cody and John. Did

39:52

anybody, did anybody ever say anything

39:54

to you where you looked at

39:56

them and you said to yourself,

39:59

wow, I can't believe he just said that? Uh,

40:01

you wouldn't believe my phone. Everybody

40:04

called me. No, no, no, no.

40:06

You personally, when you were wrestling,

40:08

did anybody ever say anything to

40:10

you? where you were shocked that

40:12

they said that to you. No.

40:17

Everything was on the table. They

40:19

didn't want to get fired. No,

40:22

I can't remember anybody ever say anything

40:24

to my face. I've

40:26

done a lot of people talk to have my bag. Oh,

40:29

that's progressive. Well, you know,

40:31

it's the world. You know,

40:33

say it to my face. You

40:35

know, I got no problem. Okay,

40:38

guys, I'm crashing an airplane. What are

40:40

you going to do? Beat me up? So, so,

40:42

so Rick, for you, I got

40:44

to tell my airplanes story real quick.

40:46

The first time because this has

40:48

to do with Rick's past. The first

40:50

time I got to work with

40:52

Rick, super excited, obviously, blah, blah, blah.

40:55

He puts me in the corner

40:57

and he chops me and I

40:59

completely no sell. And I just

41:01

look at him and I'm in the corner. like,

41:03

oh, I'm going get chopped by Ric Flair. I'm

41:05

going to get chopped by Ric Flair. Right. He

41:07

chops me and I went, what the fuck? And

41:09

I just looked at him. And

41:11

I think he thought I was fucking with

41:14

him. So he puts my arm back. Wham! He

41:16

chops me in there. And I looked at

41:18

him again. I said, what

41:20

do you have in your hand? I

41:24

legit thought he had

41:26

a brick or brass nuts

41:28

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41:30

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41:32

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41:34

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43:45

chopped me so hard other

43:47

than Haku and other than being

43:49

manhandled by Mark Henry, which

43:51

I kind of enjoyed. That was

43:54

the hardest I've ever been

43:56

hit. If you watch me in

43:58

Steamboat, I'm hitting Steamboat as

44:00

hard as I can. I

44:03

mean, you watch matches with Ian and

44:05

I, brother. I am knocking his

44:07

dick in the dirt, man. Hey,

44:09

Rick, why are we on

44:11

matches with you? What's that? I

44:14

said, while we're on matches with you,

44:16

I had one match with you on

44:18

a house show. Yep, it was right

44:20

at the end the show. tired. And

44:22

I put that match in my top

44:24

five matches time. Thank you. Thank you,

44:26

buddy. And only the people in that

44:28

arena saw it. Hey,

44:30

guys, I want to say something to all of you,

44:33

because like I tell you,

44:35

I live pretty hard. But

44:37

I do it by choice. Does

44:40

it make sense? I really appreciate

44:42

all this. Any

44:44

place. No,

44:51

no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying

44:53

it from my heart. Because

44:55

how many people in my age

44:57

get a moment like this? No.

45:01

I mean, really. How many people

45:03

in my age get a moment like

45:05

this? And you

45:07

guys are 25 years

45:09

old. God

45:12

gave me a gift and He's

45:14

giving me you as a gift.

45:16

There's no age limit on greatness.

45:20

You also drew another house, so

45:22

thank you Rick. Thank

45:26

you guys. And I

45:28

always say this, Rick, and you know

45:30

what a big fan I am

45:32

of yours and seeing you at the

45:35

Meadowlands in 1984 and 1985, that

45:37

you're probably bigger now

45:39

than you've ever been your

45:41

entire career. Yeah,

45:43

absolutely. Because I'm

45:45

upset. It's

45:48

the wound to you.

45:50

I go to upset. I

45:53

need more money for this. That

45:55

Ric Flair drip went platinum eight

45:57

times, right? And

45:59

he goes, he goes, he goes,

46:01

I made you famous. I said

46:03

you wrote the song about me. I

46:05

was already famous. Twitch

46:10

said to me, by the

46:12

way, I want to see Metro boom when

46:14

he's in town, man. Metro had a lot

46:16

to do with that. You

46:34

know and Rick when it's it's

46:37

almost impossible You know I have a

46:39

list of promos that are in

46:41

my top five that you made But

46:43

it was an impossible task when

46:45

you look at most wrestlers you can

46:47

pinpoint their best matches Pinpoint their

46:49

best promos in my opinion the best

46:51

match you ever had was at

46:54

a house show at the Meadowlands against

46:56

Harley Race that the only people

46:58

who saw it were the people that

47:00

were actually in it. Like, probably

47:02

your best match was only seen by

47:04

the people in the arena, right?

47:06

Yeah. Yeah. That

47:09

was the night, um, I gotta tell

47:11

this story, that I went,

47:13

Lawrence Taylor, y 'all know Lawrence, right?

47:15

So he had a bar, he

47:17

had a bar called LT's in

47:19

New Jersey. You remember that, right?

47:22

So I'm with with

47:24

LT till four in

47:26

the morning and you

47:28

know LT, right? I

47:31

Mean there's more than a

47:33

vodka flowing around What do you

47:36

mean at five o 'clock at

47:38

five o 'clock in the morning?

47:41

He gets that his blue Jaguar and drives

47:43

away. I said you're gonna go to jail

47:45

I said I don't I don't go to

47:47

jail. I went up the next day. They're

47:49

playing the Bears He

47:52

got to the stadium an

47:54

hour before the game, and had

47:56

three sacks. He's

47:59

still the greatest, I mean, and

48:01

I'm fortunate enough, and,

48:04

oh god, I've been lucky as

48:06

hell. I'll be with Mike

48:08

Tyson tomorrow when partners with, and

48:11

guys, you buying

48:13

Ric Flair drip? I

48:18

love how he just maimed

48:20

drops Tyson. Oh, yeah, I'll be

48:22

with Mike Tyson tomorrow. Now we're part, we're it.

48:24

You know what? You're not gonna be with Mike

48:26

Tyson. Mike Tyson's gonna be with Ric Flair. Damn

48:28

right. So

48:30

what I did, Rick, is

48:32

I put together, in

48:34

my opinion, again, I said it's impossible,

48:37

my top five promos from you. So

48:39

we're gonna play them, and I'd

48:41

love to get maybe a background or

48:43

story or something about each promo.

48:45

Can we do that? All right, so

48:47

Paul. best

48:58

dressed man, long

49:00

limousines, jet

49:03

airplanes, custom made clothes.

49:05

You know why? Because my name

49:07

is Ric Flair and because

49:10

I'm the world heavyweight wrestling

49:12

champion. Let's face it, if

49:14

you're not carrying the big gold,

49:16

you're second best no matter what

49:18

you tell yourself. So gear

49:20

up ladies and gentlemen, get used

49:22

to it in Ric Flair. That

49:29

promo was on Nikita Kolev. You talked

49:32

about... Now, Nikita Kolev, when he was

49:34

facing you, he was only in the

49:36

NWA for like a cup of coffee.

49:39

And you had to do these matches

49:41

with a big man, didn't have a

49:43

lot of experience. Talk about Nikita Kolev. Actually,

49:47

I liked Nick, you know?

49:49

He was very green and

49:51

put it like that. But

49:54

it's one of those guys back

49:56

in those days, If

49:58

a guy had a really good physique

50:01

like they're finally inducting Luger and I'm so

50:03

happy for Luger tomorrow. But,

50:05

he didn't have

50:07

time to learn the

50:09

business. He had to

50:11

learn on the fly. Because they just

50:13

saw this big body, this big handsome

50:15

guy, and all a sudden he's a

50:17

four horseman, and he's had

50:20

five matches. You know what I

50:22

mean? I wrestled him, I told

50:24

the story, I busted open. Hero

50:27

match suede and Bob Rupert book

50:29

in Florida and they said you're

50:31

gonna wrestle this kid for now

50:33

or is it all man a

50:35

good deal we were in Daytona

50:37

it sold out and uh Lex

50:40

was like He couldn't do a

50:42

sunset flip. So all I did

50:44

was cut myself and took breastlamps

50:46

For an hour All right, ask

50:48

him. All right, here we go

50:50

another one I

50:57

inherited the money. I

50:59

inherited the God given best

51:01

looks in the world

51:03

today. And you know why?

51:05

I got all that because I was

51:07

born with a golden sport. And

51:10

that took me to

51:12

the world heavyweight wrestling

51:14

championship. Garvin, you,

51:16

my friends, have got to wrestle.

51:30

1987 Ronnie Garvin. Yeah.

51:33

Hands in the stone. No shit,

51:35

man. That's why the reason I

51:38

don't have any blockage. Man,

51:40

he used to smack each other,

51:42

man. Ronnie did me as hard

51:45

as I hit him. God,

51:48

great kid. Great guy. Here

51:50

we go. Another one. I'm

51:52

going to tell y 'all we're

51:54

the tears in my eyes.

51:57

This is the greatest

51:59

moment. When you walk around

52:01

this world and you tell

52:03

anybody you're number one, the only

52:05

way you get to stay

52:07

number one is to be number

52:10

one. And this is the

52:12

only title in the rest of

52:14

the world that makes you

52:16

number one when you are the

52:18

king of the WWE. You

52:21

rule the world. That's

52:28

when Jim Herd wanted to

52:30

call me Spartacus. I'll

52:32

tell you, it gave me a nervous

52:34

breakdown. I cut my hair and I

52:36

walked through the airport and nobody knew

52:38

me. I said, this

52:41

is not fucking cool. Then

52:43

he wanted to put a diamond

52:45

earring on me and call me Spartacus. Kevin

52:48

Sullivan looked at Herd and said, why

52:50

don't you change Mickey Mantle's number? You know

52:52

I mean? And it just

52:54

cracked me. But the minute I got

52:57

out of there, and I was going

52:59

to drop the bill to bury one

53:01

of them. I said, I'll drop it

53:03

to bury, not on TV, no

53:05

problem. Because he

53:07

lied to me about money. So

53:10

then I said, when back then you had to

53:12

put a deposit down on the bill, $25

53:14

,000, and I had had it, so

53:17

they owed me like $34 ,000. I said,

53:19

give me the $34 ,000, I'll give

53:21

you the bill. He said, fuck you.

53:23

I said, yeah, it ain't fuck me,

53:25

watch this. Boom.

53:29

All right, last one. I

53:31

have to announce to you that

53:33

I will. You

54:07

know why? Because

54:10

that girl that brought me the

54:12

drinks, she could kill me tonight.

54:14

I'm not gonna... I love that.

54:16

Nina! Nina, where are you,

54:18

Nina? I wouldn't mind that at

54:20

all. Hey, how

54:22

does it make you... Nina to the

54:24

stage. Nina to the stage, please. How does

54:27

it make you feel that all these

54:29

men and women are literally reciting lines from

54:31

you for promos that were in the

54:33

80s? Makes me feel great.

54:35

I just said thank you very much. I'm

54:38

so appreciative. Why

54:40

am I here? There's a hundred other

54:42

guys that could have had here when they chose me.

54:46

It's an honor. This

54:48

is not an inconvenience

54:50

or this is not a

54:52

job right now. I'm

54:54

with my friends that I've

54:56

known forever. They're so

54:58

respectful and all of you

55:01

are so respectful. What

55:03

do you say? Thank

55:05

you. Thank you, Rick.

55:07

I mean, seriously. For the tear

55:09

in my eyes! You

55:13

know that riddled kid?

55:16

Remember riddled with a WWE for a while? The

55:19

first time I met him, Rick

55:21

Flair had to meet you going, for the

55:23

tear in my eyes! Are

55:29

you surprised that that's the

55:31

promo that everybody can recite?

55:33

Because you did it for,

55:35

you know, the NWA championship,

55:37

the big gold belt, like

55:39

that's the promo that everybody

55:41

remembers. Yeah, well, they

55:43

like that rumble. What made that

55:45

rumble so good was look at

55:47

the guys that were in it.

55:50

Everybody in that damn rumble is in the hall of

55:52

fame. I mean, really,

55:54

everybody. The

55:56

who's who of the crème de

55:58

crème. at that time in the

56:01

business, we're all there. Remember

56:03

from Sean to, I

56:07

mean Hulk, Sid, I

56:09

mean, everybody was there. Randy,

56:12

Jake Roberts, and I never

56:14

knew, what take her in

56:17

that? All of the, okay. But

56:20

I mean, I didn't even know Jake Roberts

56:22

had that congratulation in the gym that morning.

56:25

I said, on what? He said, you're gonna win the, I

56:27

said, I'm gonna win the Royal Rumble. I

56:30

said, no way. So I got to

56:32

the building and then Vince said, come here.

56:34

Said, you're going to win. And

56:36

I wanted to start crying because

56:39

I had been so humiliated

56:41

in WCW by a herd. I

56:43

mean, I swear to God, guys,

56:45

when I cut my hair, I

56:47

mean, I wanted to kill myself

56:49

because it was my identity. I

56:51

mean, you know, and

56:53

then everybody just strange. But boy,

56:55

that. But the minute I

56:58

got off that plane in Stamford,

57:00

Connecticut, Vince said, I don't

57:02

give guarantees, I'll just tell you

57:04

this, I'll make you more than you

57:06

made down there. And I told

57:08

him what I made, and I made

57:10

130 more. And I

57:12

got to be, I got to go to the

57:14

big dance. So. And

57:17

trust me guys,

57:20

this weekend right here,

57:23

this WrestleMania stuff. This is

57:25

a big dance. I

57:28

mean, I think that these

57:30

events are every bit as

57:32

much and as much and

57:34

more entertaining sometimes than the

57:37

Super Bowl, the World

57:39

Series, the NBA All -Star

57:41

Game. I mean, this

57:43

is not a huge deal. And

57:46

you don't realize, I

57:49

knew a couple of years

57:51

ago, I heard, I came out

57:53

of one city with him.

57:55

but it generated $50 million of

57:58

income for hotels and all

58:00

that. I can imagine what, no,

58:03

no, we're ever, when

58:05

the WrestleMania comes to your town

58:07

and now they're doing two nights and

58:09

both are sold out. I mean,

58:11

come on guys, they're making some cash.

58:14

Nate, it is WrestleMania weekend. It is a

58:16

big deal for us to have you

58:18

here on Busted Open again. I

58:21

know it's a big deal for our fans. There's

58:23

something LaGreca has been talking

58:25

about that would make this

58:27

the biggest deal for him

58:29

So I'm just gonna throw

58:31

it out there. He's

58:33

told me once or

58:36

twice. I hope I'm not

58:38

putting you both on

58:40

the spot right now, but

58:42

Dave LaGreca Wants to

58:44

take a chop from Rick

58:46

I Can't do it Don't

58:52

do it. God, don't wanna do it. No.

58:58

Let Tommy splash you. Hey,

59:05

I'll take my favorite moment with

59:07

the Dudley's. And I still care

59:09

that this is our business. It's

59:12

when they put Stacy King

59:14

into the table. I

59:17

mean, she's like this big around right

59:19

now going, I don't know. Vincent's

59:21

too much. Coincidentally,

59:23

that was one of my favorite nights

59:25

also. Yeah, she

59:28

was sitting on your shoulders

59:30

front first. I guess the weather

59:32

right. Rick, I think

59:34

I'm talking to not just the people

59:36

that are sitting on this stage, but

59:38

every single person that came out here

59:40

to circa today. Thank you. Thank you

59:42

for the time. Thank you for coming

59:44

here today. And

59:47

listen, I've said it. If it

59:49

wasn't for you, Rick, you

59:52

made my career because I wouldn't be doing

59:54

this for a living. If it wasn't for

59:56

you, you're the greatest of all time. And

59:58

I just want to say I love you.

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