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at Mint Mobile. Master's

1:11

Classics. Welcome to

1:13

this edition of the Master's

1:16

Class. Card subject to change.

1:18

So Bully, I want to

1:20

start with you. Have you

1:23

ever experienced this card

1:25

subject to change for

1:27

the show of shows

1:30

at WrestleMania? Not only have

1:32

I seen it, but I've

1:34

been involved in it personally.

1:36

It wasn't like a You

1:38

know a big match like

1:40

a TLC match, but I

1:42

believe it WrestleMania 19 in

1:44

Seattle at Safeco Field No,

1:46

wait, is that I don't

1:48

know what are the WrestleMania?

1:50

It was WrestleMania 19. Me

1:52

and Devon were supposed to take

1:54

on I think Lance Lance,

1:56

Lance Storm and Val Venus

1:58

or something like that but somebody

2:01

got injured or maybe it's supposed

2:03

to be a three-way something happened

2:05

at the very last minute that

2:07

pulled us off of WrestleMania and

2:09

put us on the WrestleMania free

2:12

show I believe it aired on

2:14

Sunday night heat so it's very

2:16

disappointing but it happens in wrestling

2:18

all the time it's happening right

2:21

now during this year's Wrestlemania bit

2:23

of a gut punch hard to

2:25

deal with but you know the

2:27

ups and downs of the wrestling

2:30

business. Yeah, you know, the thrill

2:32

of victory, the agony of defeat.

2:34

And you just have to deal

2:36

with it. You have to roll

2:38

with the punches the way the

2:41

company has to in having to

2:43

switch everything up. For you, Bully,

2:45

you had one of the greatest,

2:47

if not the greatest, match in

2:50

Wrestlemania. People argue on the biggest

2:52

Wrestlemania of all time. A lot

2:54

of people say it's their favorite

2:56

with Wrestlemania 17. Is it an

2:59

easier pill to swallow for you,

3:01

missing a WrestleMania match, having such

3:03

a significant match prior, like you

3:05

did? Yes. Especially what we were

3:08

doing, because I believe what

3:10

we were doing, and when

3:12

I say we, I'm talking

3:14

about myself, Devan, the Hardies

3:16

and Edging Christian, we were

3:18

taking tag team wrestling to

3:20

heights at WrestleMania that it

3:22

had never seen before. I

3:24

would ask you guys, what

3:26

was the most featured legitimate

3:28

tag team match that had

3:30

happened in prior Wrestlemanias? I

3:32

would venture to say that

3:34

none of them had the,

3:36

um, yes, thank you Mark,

3:38

that that we had whether

3:40

that was at Wrestlemania 2000

3:42

with the triangle ladder match

3:44

or at Wrestlemania. 17, which

3:46

was TLC2. So yeah, if

3:48

God forbid anything would have

3:50

happened to any of us

3:52

going into those WrestleMania matches,

3:54

especially TLC2 in the Ashenom.

3:56

It would have been very

3:58

difficult to have to deal

4:00

with, but here's the brutal,

4:02

you know, the brutal reality.

4:04

The harsh reality is, there's

4:06

nothing you can do about

4:08

it. Zero, especially if it's

4:10

because of an injury. You

4:12

know, having the match pulled,

4:14

and the ladies have to

4:16

deal with this a lot

4:18

of just having a match

4:20

randomly pulled. on mania just

4:22

because of time restraints. And

4:24

you know, me, myself and

4:26

Mark and Tommy know how

4:28

seriously the women take their

4:30

WrestleMania matches, even if it's

4:32

just a battle royal or

4:34

a 14 tag or whatever,

4:37

they really, because their time.

4:39

on the card is sporadic.

4:41

It's not like Charlotte versus

4:43

Becky or or a Bianca

4:45

versus a Bali or some

4:47

of your more featured singles

4:49

matches. So if you're like

4:51

Natty, Natty's been through a

4:53

lot of ups and downs

4:55

with WrestleMania matches because she's

4:57

been pulled from quite a

4:59

few Wrestlemenias at the very

5:01

last moment. And it just.

5:03

It just destroys you on

5:05

the inside. You feel so

5:07

dejected. But this is where

5:09

you have to harden yourself

5:11

to the wrestling business knowing

5:13

that you're still gonna get

5:15

that payday, but you're not

5:17

gonna be able to go

5:19

out there and perform. It's

5:21

not easy to deal with.

5:23

I know that Tommy has

5:25

dealt with a WrestleMania match

5:27

being pulled. Mark, have you

5:29

ever been involved in a

5:31

situation where your menia match

5:33

was pulled? Yes, like I

5:35

was the number one contender

5:37

and Was had a match

5:39

with being wild to? You

5:41

know to try to put

5:43

some damage in him before

5:45

I match at WrestleMania when

5:47

he was the champion and

5:49

My shoulder came out of

5:51

socket again and I had

5:53

to have surgery and I

5:55

miss I miss WrestleMania man,

5:57

and they had to go

5:59

to plan When did your

6:01

shoulder come out of socket?

6:03

Like how many weeks before

6:05

mania? Shit, a month. It

6:07

was after the rumble. Okay,

6:10

so a month before mania,

6:12

you're told no restlemania for

6:14

you because of an injury.

6:16

Can you can you possibly

6:18

take us on that emotional

6:20

roller coaster? I remember Teddy

6:22

Long coming to me. I

6:24

walked through guerrilla. Everybody was

6:26

trying to talk to me.

6:28

I tucked out. Like I

6:30

mailed gifts in the shit

6:32

in the middle of the

6:34

match I swing at Benoit

6:36

my shoulder comes out of

6:38

the socket I kick him

6:40

and with one hand I

6:42

shit cannon and I Tell

6:44

the referee my shoulders out

6:46

and he goes oh shit.

6:48

I'm gonna call it and

6:50

I said no and I

6:52

grabbed my wrist and I

6:54

ran my wrist and I

6:56

ran my shoulder and popped

6:58

it back in myself. And

7:00

I don't know if y'all

7:02

can, if I can explain

7:04

to you the pain that

7:06

I went through physically, the

7:08

physical pain of that. Felt

7:10

like lightning strep, I just

7:12

lost my breath because it

7:14

took like my breath away,

7:16

like I could not breathe.

7:18

And then I finally, Ben

7:20

Why came back in started

7:22

chopping the shit out of

7:24

me. And I told him.

7:26

Hey, you're gonna have to

7:28

beat me and he went

7:30

No, no, you're all right.

7:32

I said no, I'm not

7:34

and I swung at him.

7:36

He crossed face me One

7:38

to the tap out and

7:41

the match was over I

7:43

went through guerrilla Didn't talk

7:45

to nobody went in the

7:47

hallway and just started crying

7:49

because I knew that I

7:51

was not going to be

7:53

able to go to Russamanian

7:55

because The pain that I

7:57

was in had me shaking

7:59

like this. It

8:01

was a cross face on

8:03

the bad shoulder. Yeah. And

8:06

in hindsight, I'm thinking, hey

8:08

dumb ass, maybe you throw

8:10

a left hook at him

8:12

and he takes the left

8:14

arm and does the gimmick

8:17

and I could tap with

8:19

the real injured arm. But

8:21

wrestling training, people don't understand

8:23

how programs you are. Like

8:25

you're trained to hit the

8:28

road, grab the road. You're

8:30

trained to use your right

8:32

side to do what you

8:34

do. There's some guys that

8:36

are left-handed that still wrestle

8:39

right-hand because that's just the

8:41

way it is. And then

8:43

there's some guys that can

8:45

throw left, like bully throws

8:47

a left jab, bean, bing,

8:50

boom, and then he hits

8:52

you with the right. But

8:54

it's very few guys I

8:56

let throw a left hand

8:58

touching me because... It ain't,

9:01

you know, you adjust differently.

9:03

You throw a punch at

9:05

me, I give, or I'll

9:07

faint, but somebody that throws

9:10

a left, you're trained to

9:12

do this when you're just

9:14

running right into the fucking

9:16

hand. It's like, you're like,

9:18

hey hit me. Like, so,

9:21

like, the whole point of

9:23

the conversation is, I did

9:25

what my brain told me

9:27

to do, which was. Bro

9:31

I can't explain to you

9:33

how much pain that was

9:35

to throw that punch and

9:37

have him cross-faced jerk me

9:40

the arm that it just

9:42

came out of socket and

9:44

I put it back in

9:46

myself and of course the

9:48

labrum was torn The rotator

9:50

cuff was torn the biceps

9:53

tendon was torn and I'm

9:55

gonna say that I did

9:57

that to myself When I

9:59

when I ran it into

10:01

the corner it was hurt

10:04

already And I made it

10:06

worse and I was out

10:08

for seven months. But Mark,

10:10

other than the obvious physical

10:12

pain, and then you cried

10:15

right afterwards, what was the

10:17

emotion like of that month?

10:19

It was crazy. I felt

10:21

like I let myself down.

10:23

I felt like I let

10:26

the company down like they

10:28

had invested a lot of

10:30

time and money into me.

10:32

And now I'm... They're scrambling

10:34

to find another story to

10:37

go with, to go into

10:39

mania. And you just feel

10:41

worthless, basically. And I remember

10:43

being at home, and I

10:45

said, fuck this, I'm done.

10:47

I can't take it no

10:50

more. I got hurt three

10:52

times at this point. This

10:54

is, I was just like

10:56

pump. And

10:59

you sit at home

11:01

and go, what did

11:03

I do? God, what

11:05

did I do? Why

11:08

am I, why of

11:10

all the times in

11:12

a year? Why now?

11:14

And you know, it's

11:17

painful when you question

11:19

God. And I had

11:21

been why I called

11:23

me and say, hey.

11:28

Suck that shit up it

11:30

happened to everybody You'll be

11:32

you'll be better when you

11:34

come back and If I'm

11:36

not exaggerating when I say

11:38

that if if I hadn't

11:40

talked to Ben wine 07

11:42

Like I would have quit

11:44

wrestling like I got to

11:46

the point where man I

11:48

was still the strongest man

11:51

in the world at that

11:53

time I was like man

11:55

fuck this. I'm going back

11:57

to lifting I was gonna

11:59

do something And Ben Watt

12:01

talked me out of it.

12:03

Wow. told me to come

12:05

to the house and beat

12:07

me up if I didn't

12:09

get my ass back in

12:12

the gym. But you were

12:14

able to bounce back and

12:16

then you had a match

12:18

with the undertaker at WrestleMania

12:20

which during the streak there's

12:22

nothing bigger than having a

12:24

match with the undertaker. So

12:26

how did you feel knowing

12:28

that's enough in you to

12:30

have a match with the

12:32

undertaker? Experience is the greatest

12:35

teacher. I had matches leading

12:37

up until WrestleMania 22, where

12:39

I would go out there

12:41

man, I didn't even play

12:43

the heads. I had brawls.

12:45

Bang, bang, bing, bing, bing,

12:47

being, throw the guy, go

12:49

do something. Like I wasn't

12:51

running into the stairs on

12:53

the floor. I wasn't running

12:56

into the post. I wasn't

12:58

doing shit. But Matt

13:00

man Matt wrestling grappling in holes

13:02

Because I was scared of getting

13:04

hurt again You go into this

13:07

this this shutdown mode because you're

13:09

worried about getting hurt There's certain

13:11

things that you would normally do

13:13

that you're not going to do

13:16

no want to take a chance

13:18

and do it You said Mark

13:20

you got to go a hundred

13:23

miles per hour at the rumble

13:25

you got to and then you

13:27

probably shut it down right after

13:29

the rumble all the way to

13:32

a Yeah, pretty much. Mark, did

13:34

you watch that WrestleMania? The one

13:36

that I miss? Yes. No, I

13:38

don't remember. I was too distraught

13:41

to watch any wrestling. After I

13:43

got surgery, I remember being in

13:45

Birmingham with Dr Andrews and Dr

13:48

Dugas and they had just done

13:50

my surgery and they were like,

13:52

hey man, a bunch of us

13:54

is going to get together and

13:57

we're going to go to David

13:59

Buster's and watch wrestling Monday. And

14:01

I went. No, I ain't gone.

14:04

They were like what? I didn't

14:06

go. I was in Birmingham for

14:08

a month doing rehab and I

14:10

didn't watch wrestling not one time

14:13

I was there. Wow. I couldn't.

14:15

Every time I watched wrestling I

14:17

cried. I love this shit man.

14:19

Did you guys ever experience and

14:22

I've spoke to a couple of

14:24

guys who have when you're the

14:26

focal point of any particular company?

14:29

Like Mark was getting this big

14:31

push at the time against Benoit

14:33

and everybody wants to talk to

14:35

you and you're always invested in

14:38

something and people are invested in

14:40

you and then all of a

14:42

sudden you have an injury and

14:45

nobody wants to talk to you

14:47

anymore and the phone stops ringing

14:49

and all of a sudden you

14:51

be you feel like you've been

14:54

put on the back burner where

14:56

Nobody's interested in you anymore. Tommy,

14:58

have you ever experienced that? Absolutely,

15:00

it was one of the saddest

15:03

days in my life. ECW went

15:05

out of business and I got

15:07

not one call, not one text.

15:10

And this was just in a

15:12

day where I would, because I

15:14

would be like, and I seriously

15:16

sat there, I was like, man,

15:19

I used to get like between

15:21

50, you know, 75 emails a

15:23

day, tax, blah, and I was

15:25

like, man, not one person thought

15:28

of me today. You know, you

15:30

had to walk off for a

15:32

second because you're, I could tell

15:35

you were getting emotional. Like even

15:37

after all you've accomplished with going

15:39

against the undertaker at WrestleMania, going

15:41

into the Hall of Fame, I

15:44

can tell just even thinking back

15:46

to that time when you got

15:48

injured that those emotions and those

15:51

moments come flooding back to you.

15:53

Am I right? It's not always

15:55

the success that you judge by.

15:57

This is the failure. And how

16:00

you deal with the failure. And

16:02

Tommy mentioned it. People will stop

16:04

calling. Like, they say success has

16:06

many fathers. And failure is a

16:09

bastard. It's the truest thing of

16:11

us said, because when you fail,

16:13

there's a few people that are

16:16

like, damn, I'm gonna give them

16:18

a moment, it's tough, you know,

16:20

let him breathe. And then it's

16:22

the other ones that, if you

16:25

can't help me, then you have

16:27

no service or used to me.

16:29

And I got to see it.

16:31

And it was the hardest thing

16:34

to realize who was my friend

16:36

and who was my workmates. Mark,

16:38

I don't mean to interrupt you,

16:41

but when you had to walk

16:43

off before, you needed a moment.

16:45

I don't know if you heard

16:47

the question that I had asked.

16:50

I, you're actually answering the question

16:52

despite the fact that I don't

16:54

know, I don't think you heard

16:57

me. No, when you were in,

16:59

when you were in the middle

17:01

of your push, and you're working

17:03

with Benoit, and you're the focal

17:06

point, and everybody wants to talk

17:08

to your friend, and everybody wants

17:10

to talk about your push, and

17:12

it's like, mark this, and you're

17:15

invested, and everything is going well,

17:17

but then all of a sudden,

17:19

snap of a finger, shoulder pops

17:22

out, you're out of mania, you.

17:24

Don I right right mark done

17:26

and you don't you don't exist

17:28

anymore and you start to quit

17:31

like why doesn't anybody want to

17:33

talk to me? What why did

17:35

why am I like in the

17:37

background? Why do I feel like

17:40

I'm in the background now? And

17:42

why is it? I'm talking about

17:44

not just the boys. I'm talking

17:47

about the office. Yeah. I'm talking

17:49

about the people that are writing

17:51

the show. Like you don't exist

17:53

because their job is to do

17:56

that right now Not to what

17:58

was If I can tell you

18:00

how me and Edge clicked, when

18:03

he got hurt, I was working

18:05

in the office. And I was

18:07

just like, hey, just was thinking

18:09

about you. How you bambo, blah,

18:12

and he goes, you know, you're

18:14

the first person I've heard from

18:16

in the office for about three

18:18

weeks. And this is when he

18:21

was on top. And I was

18:23

like, really? And he's like, yep.

18:25

After the surgery, everyone's like, you're

18:28

good, you're good, because I haven't

18:30

heard from anybody. And then like

18:32

we really just clicked we would

18:34

joke about it because then I

18:37

exaggerated that I called him every

18:39

day, but he was like, you

18:41

know, we would talk once a

18:43

week, but just because, you know,

18:46

he was telling me about, yeah,

18:48

I had a sleep sitting up

18:50

in a chair with a, you

18:53

know, neck brace on and like

18:55

all that stuff. Just also to

18:57

talk about. Hold on, Tommy, I

18:59

just want to tell Dave something,

19:02

I know you guys. Yeah. You

19:04

sit there and nobody texts and

19:06

nobody calls, not the boys, not

19:09

the office, not nobody, and you're

19:11

just saying yourself, what, what the

19:13

fuck? I'm sitting here, my shoulders

19:15

out, I got a broken leg,

19:18

I got this, doesn't anybody care

19:20

about me? And this will really

19:22

harden you to the industry where

19:24

you say, it's me. It's me.

19:27

and me only. I got

19:30

me, I got my partner

19:32

and that's it. That's the

19:34

only person I can truly

19:37

rely on. Now I do

19:39

believe that over time the

19:41

business has changed and the

19:44

boys show more concern for

19:46

one another than they ever

19:48

had. But when you're sitting

19:51

there for months, I'd love

19:53

to get people like that

19:55

have been away for a

19:58

year or years. to come

20:00

on and explain what that

20:02

is like to sit home

20:05

and just... think that the

20:07

business has passed you by.

20:09

It's, it will screw with

20:12

your head. I want to

20:14

say, Benoit, Nova, and Teddy

20:16

Long. Wow. Almost every week,

20:19

if not every week. And

20:21

that's when the undertaker came

20:23

in the play. Because of

20:26

being in Austin, like I

20:28

would see him. and he

20:30

would check on me. And

20:33

those friendships are the ones

20:35

that still exist. Like, you

20:37

know, I mean, I only

20:40

known David Grecker since Dallas.

20:42

I talked to him for

20:44

years before that, but it

20:47

was just me calling in

20:49

for radio. But we met

20:51

in Dallas. I felt more

20:54

of a kinship. talking

20:56

to Dave in the lobby

20:58

in the hotel in Dallas,

21:01

the first time I met

21:03

him, then guys that I

21:05

was in the locker room

21:08

with for 10 years. Because

21:10

he actually fucking cared. You

21:12

only got to be around

21:15

Tommy dreaming for five fucking

21:17

minutes to know that he

21:19

lives and dies with wrestling.

21:22

When we all die. They're

21:24

gonna talk about wrestling I

21:27

just I mean, I know

21:29

y'all's not as morbid as

21:32

I am But they're gonna

21:34

fucking talk wrestling at our

21:37

funeral what we really loved

21:39

I don't have to be

21:42

there to know what the

21:44

fuck they gonna talk about

21:47

His passion for his sacrifice

21:49

He talked about it when

21:51

his mother died. It broke

21:54

me down. I couldn't listen

21:56

to him. I had turn

21:59

the show off. I don't

22:01

know if y'all remember how

22:04

to leave. Because I knew

22:06

what he was saying was

22:09

a reality. When you love

22:11

something like we love it,

22:14

it becomes more than just

22:16

a job. And I feel

22:18

for punk. I text them

22:21

the day. I'm not going

22:23

to call you. I'm just

22:26

checking to see if you're

22:28

OK. That

22:31

was my text. Because I

22:33

want him to know that

22:35

there's people that if he

22:37

felt like, hey man, I

22:40

need to talk about it.

22:42

I'm here. I'm an ear

22:44

to lean on. And bully

22:46

plays the bully. He loved

22:48

wrestling. He loved fan interaction.

22:51

Whether it be positive or

22:53

negative. I'll fucking take it

22:55

because it's better than being

22:57

dead and it's better than

22:59

being a nobody. And I

23:02

ain't gotta get in the

23:04

day. Fucking look at his

23:06

walls. So the fans of

23:08

this show need to understand

23:10

that these are people that

23:13

get hurt, not wrestlers that

23:15

get hurt. They get hurt.

23:17

They go home injured. Charlotte

23:19

Flair, man, I've been texting

23:21

her every week. Stay on

23:23

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23:26

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23:28

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23:30

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23:32

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23:34

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23:37

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23:39

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23:41

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26:32

Him and I, Seattle, Washington, packed.

26:34

I'm wrestling him. This is maybe

26:37

2002. They're starting for the push

26:39

with Mark and I've said it.

26:41

They would tell me, hey man,

26:44

you're gonna go out there, wrestle

26:46

Mark Henry, you're allowed to bump

26:48

him once. You gotta go 14

26:51

to 15 minutes. And the whole

26:53

time we're rocking and rolling. when

26:55

it's going to start my comeback

26:58

and this is also no this

27:00

is 2001 because the first time

27:02

I'm wrestling in Seattle and the

27:05

lure of Tommy Dreamer the wrestler

27:07

they've never seen me and man

27:09

I can't do my hardcore stuff

27:11

I can't do anything so me

27:14

and Mark are out there he

27:16

misses the splash Mark Henry when

27:18

first of all he's coming at

27:21

you it's like an eclipse you

27:23

you don't see the lights when

27:25

you're laying there because he takes

27:28

it but Mark would fully extend

27:30

Rob Van Dam style, arms over

27:32

his head like he's diving into

27:35

a pool, missed that splash. Boom,

27:37

I roll all the way, the

27:39

people start coming. Nick Patrick comes

27:42

to me and he goes, Mark's

27:44

hurt. And I was like, what?

27:46

And he's like, Mark's hurt. And

27:49

I see Mark's hurt. And I

27:51

see Mark clutching his hand and

27:53

his shoulder. If you have ever

27:55

seen somebody's shoulder get separated, it's

27:58

quite gross looking. Then I take

28:00

off and Mark's like, he's on

28:02

his knees. He's on his knees.

28:05

I drop kick his head. He

28:07

bumps kind of like jamming his

28:09

own shoulder into the canvas. And

28:12

now here comes my comeback. I'm

28:14

just like, and Nick Patrick's going,

28:16

go home. They don't have earpieces

28:19

in referee's ears during a house

28:21

show or a live event. So

28:23

I'm like, all right, let's go.

28:26

Mark's like, no. So I throw

28:28

my punches, throw my punches. And

28:30

then I was like, Mark's like,

28:33

just come on, come on, keep

28:35

going. And I'm like, no. I

28:37

jump up to the second mark

28:40

plucks me out of midair. World

28:42

Strongest slam slam. I'm about 240.

28:44

with his shoulder. He's like, I

28:46

put it back in, I put

28:49

it back in. So we get

28:51

to the back, Marx upset, he's

28:53

clutching his hand, bring it close

28:56

to his body, and he's feeling

28:58

for like feeling in his fingers.

29:00

He turns and he apologizes to

29:03

me. And I was like, dude,

29:05

it's, don't worry about it. But

29:07

that's the testament of the human

29:10

being and also the professional that

29:12

Mark Henry is. And that's why

29:14

he's also a Hall of Famer

29:17

for the things that most people

29:19

don't know about. That's my conclusion

29:21

with Mark Henry. David, I'll tell

29:24

you my story about WrestleMania. My

29:26

first ever WrestleMania moment was supposed

29:28

to be a three-way dance. Scott

29:30

Steiner versus Tommy Dreamer versus Randy

29:33

Orton for the love of Torrey

29:35

Wilson. And pitched it. I didn't

29:37

pitch it. It was pitched to

29:40

me. We start playing this out

29:42

on television. And... like just starting

29:44

to set the heat this is

29:47

when test was with Stacey and

29:49

that first Matt got taken off

29:51

the board because of I believe

29:54

Torius with Kidman at the time

29:56

they were married did not want

29:58

to have that type of you

30:01

know match whatever fine so I

30:03

see that match can take it

30:05

away and then they're talking about

30:08

maybe Tommy Dreamer versus Scott Steiner

30:10

Maybe Tommy Dreamer versus Randy Orton.

30:12

They go with Tommy Dreamer versus

30:14

Randy Orton. Tori Wilson is somehow

30:17

going to be involved. Randy Orton

30:19

gets hurt, his foot. I walked

30:21

in, I remember walking into the

30:24

office because again I lived by

30:26

the office and I saw the

30:28

board, I was on the board

30:31

for WrestleMania, what would be my

30:33

first ever WrestleMania, Randy Orton's first

30:35

Wrestlemania. And Dave, you know, we

30:38

talk about my fandom. I'm the,

30:40

me and Little Guido, the only

30:42

two wrestlers ever to be at

30:45

the first ever Wrestlenia. And this

30:47

is my moment. and Randy gets

30:49

taken out. If you don't think,

30:52

I'm still talking about it today,

30:54

that I wanted to have more

30:56

than just one match at Wrestlemania,

30:58

it would have meant the world

31:01

to me. I was happy Guido

31:03

got that moment 20 years later,

31:05

but I still hadn't. And because

31:08

of injury, it was taken away

31:10

from me. If I fast forward

31:12

to Wrestlemania 23, and I've told

31:15

this story before, The originals versus

31:17

the new breed, we were crushing

31:19

it on live events. We got

31:22

this story. I pull in to

31:24

the WrestleMania Hotel. De Malenko comes

31:26

to me and he goes, they

31:29

scrapped your match for Manio. I

31:31

literally pulled in to the hotel

31:33

and I was like, huh? And

31:36

I'm devastated. And they're like, we

31:38

want to give Molina and Ashley

31:40

Mazaro more time for their match.

31:42

And I'm like, I got so

31:45

messed up. And again, I pull

31:47

in with my family and I

31:49

was recently reminded of this. My

31:52

daughter, who was little in their

31:54

car seats, doing something, I'm so,

31:56

I closed the door, her hand

31:59

was in the door. And I

32:01

closed the door on my daughter's

32:03

hand right after finding out the,

32:06

I'm not on Wrestlemenian. And I

32:08

walk away from the car, Bula

32:10

pops out of the car because

32:13

my daughter is screaming, but I'm

32:15

not in the car. And if

32:17

you don't. think that like I

32:20

hurt my daughter because I was

32:22

so upset and I don't mean

32:24

to get upset but it stood

32:27

with me and something my life

32:29

goal was taken away from me

32:31

and if it wasn't for my

32:33

hero Dusty roads I would have

32:36

never have made it to WrestleMania

32:38

it's a big freaking thing and

32:40

it didn't happen because I got

32:43

injured but I'm just talking about

32:45

my mindset when I was hit

32:47

with that news and trust me

32:50

Bula makes fun of me or

32:52

my daughter thankfully is too young

32:54

to remember it. But I was

32:57

like, and I just closed the

32:59

door right on my daughter's hand.

33:01

And in front of everybody also

33:04

in WWE as you pull up

33:06

to the WWE Hotel. But again,

33:08

these are moments that stay with

33:11

you. And you know, when I,

33:13

I've said this, every great athlete

33:15

will talk about the victories. But

33:17

it's the defeats that keep them

33:20

up at night. It's the losses

33:22

that play with your head forever.

33:24

And if you don't think I

33:27

would have loved to have two,

33:29

I was guaranteed, I want to

33:31

say I was guaranteed two, but

33:34

if you don't think I would

33:36

have gone my entire career without

33:38

being Wrestlemania, yeah, hey, great, you

33:41

made money, you did those. But

33:43

if you don't make it to

33:45

there, like, hey, you're a failure,

33:48

in my head. I can hang

33:50

my one Wrestleomania that I had.

33:52

and I was so in the

33:55

moment of fighting to get there,

33:57

that once it was over, it

33:59

didn't mean anything to me anymore.

34:01

But if I realize that if

34:04

I didn't ever get there, I

34:06

don't know if I could ever

34:08

say, hey, you know, I made

34:11

it. Wow, I mean and guys,

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