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1:01

Supply. I don't want to

1:03

believe that missing Anthony Robinson

1:05

who probably has been our

1:07

best player, whether it's him,

1:09

whether it's Christian, or whether

1:11

it's Waya, or McKinney, or

1:13

whoever it is, Balagans out

1:15

here or Peppy, I don't

1:17

want to think

1:20

like if we're

1:22

missing one guy,

1:25

like the whole

1:27

dynamic of the

1:30

team changes because

1:32

then we don't

1:35

really have a

1:38

good national team.

1:40

talking about everything that happened to the U.S.

1:42

international team and their defeat to Anima. Thursday

1:44

night we'll look ahead to their third place

1:46

match against Canada on Sunday. We'll be on

1:49

the call of that one. We're hoping to

1:51

have Niko Kato here on the show who

1:53

was on the call for the Mexico Canada

1:55

game and give his thoughts on what he

1:58

saw in the game. We'll talk about this

2:00

nation's league that we're out here and out.

2:02

But obviously all the fallout is surrounding the

2:04

U.S. men's national team after their defeat to

2:07

Panama by a goal to Neil Cecilia Waterman

2:09

with the goal in the 94th minute, then

2:11

running to Tierra on Re and our CBS

2:13

desk, I must confess I've watched that

2:16

video a number of times today.

2:18

It's really cool for the player,

2:20

obviously runs up to Tierrae and

2:22

says you're my idol. It's a

2:24

great scene, obviously not one that

2:26

as U.S. men's national team supporters

2:28

we would want to see. I guess it's

2:30

just start with the game. You said that

2:32

there was almost that lack of intensity and

2:34

Pochitino talked about it as well. It is

2:36

something that you feel in the game a

2:39

little bit, but it to me is a

2:41

product of the script of the game, which

2:43

is Panama set out to defend. They put

2:45

five across the field and defense four across

2:47

the field and made it very difficult

2:49

for the US to find their way through. What

2:51

I guess went wrong in your judgment? Well,

2:53

I thought the first half and you asked me

2:55

coming out of the dressing room in the second

2:58

half what needs to change and I said it

3:00

needs to be faster. The movement needed to be

3:02

quicker. Again, they almost seem content to have the

3:04

ball in front of that back five. There were

3:07

a couple of opportunities. Obviously, Josh, Sergeant had one.

3:09

There was the one that was offside. Okay, that

3:11

was really good movement. There were three or four

3:13

sequences in the first half, but. It wasn't enough

3:16

and I felt like especially in the central

3:18

part of the midfield. The one question I

3:20

do have of Pocatino was playing with two

3:22

defensive midfielders, right? Because I think we all

3:25

figured at least you and I figured out

3:27

and we watched some some video on this

3:29

team. They were going to be in a

3:31

541. That's what they've been under Thomas Christensen,

3:34

right? And they were a counter attacking side

3:36

that had moments where they would possess the

3:38

ball. So I initially thought. you know why go

3:40

with two defensive midfielders right you're gonna have

3:42

the ball in there into the field for

3:45

a good portion of the game but then

3:47

it was too slow getting from side to

3:49

side was far too slow and is it

3:51

when you have five across the back and

3:53

by the way a group that's more central

3:55

norm than a normal five normally five will

3:57

spread you from touch line to touch line.

3:59

the field was already small and they

4:02

made it even smaller and we played

4:04

right into it. They don't give you

4:06

a lot, they're physical, these are all

4:08

the quality, look, they know this, they

4:10

went through this in Cop America, they

4:13

went through this in qualifying and it's

4:15

a character of this team and I

4:17

just thought we were too content sort

4:19

of passing the buck. you're going

4:21

to do it and you're going to

4:23

get it done. Oh, he'll get it

4:26

done. No, this is the moment where

4:28

somebody's got to take an initiative, if

4:30

not all 11 players have to take

4:32

an initiative. And yeah, there were some

4:34

opportunities and I think I said to you,

4:36

the best way to open up a team that

4:38

sits back is to get a goal. Because

4:40

in a knockout, what do you have

4:43

to do? It's not like they're playing

4:45

for gold difference, right? You have to

4:47

open up at some point. If they

4:49

score in the first half, it's a

4:51

completely different game. As it turns out,

4:53

this thing played right in it. And by

4:55

the way, I don't want to

4:57

take anything away from Panama because

4:59

this script was exactly what Thomas

5:01

Christensen wrote on his piece of

5:03

paper the night on his piece of paper

5:05

the night before when he went to bed

5:07

was we're going to endure a little bit

5:09

of pressure. We're going to need a little

5:12

bit of luck. My goalkeeper is going to

5:14

have to play well. Defensive we're going to

5:16

have to play well. And I feel like

5:18

they also handled every moment of any

5:21

time the US did get intense with

5:23

rhythm. Someone fell to the floor and

5:25

there was an injury stoppage or they did

5:27

all the things that you would expect a

5:29

team to do. But the thing that gets

5:32

so frustrating is that there is this conversation

5:34

about whether or not the US playing in

5:36

Concap as much as they do. It's more

5:38

than they did in the past is good

5:41

for the national team writ large. But at

5:43

this point. shouldn't you kind of have concav

5:45

football solved? You should have, you should go

5:47

into a game against a lesser opposition knowing

5:49

that you're not really going to have your

5:51

chance to play your game. It's going to be

5:54

different than you're used to in these nations

5:56

league finals. You often play in NFL stadiums,

5:58

which you know the field. is smaller. At

6:00

this point, you kind of know what the game is.

6:02

And I feel like in watching Mexico, we went up

6:04

and watched the game in the first minute of the

6:07

game. What did they do to create a goal? Wasn't

6:09

anything special? Wasn't any brilliant piece of play?

6:11

It's basically press the initiative, hit the ball

6:13

central, hit the ball central, try and get

6:15

a bounce, and then go and score a

6:18

goal because you have a top class striker

6:20

up front. Was anything pretty? Wasn't

6:22

anything pretty, was anything beautiful, was

6:24

anything beautiful, was anything beautiful,

6:26

was anything beautiful, was anything

6:28

beautiful. And I just don't think that the

6:31

US, as you said, ever really took

6:33

the game in that way. But to

6:35

me, the biggest thing that stands out

6:37

is what I wouldn't judge to be

6:39

a lack of quality, that there wasn't

6:41

anyone beyond the initiative when they did

6:43

have the ball, whether that that was

6:45

anyone beyond the initiative, whether that that

6:47

was that that did have the ball,

6:49

whether that was Christian, Westimk, who were

6:51

asked to play more advanced roles in

6:53

the team, whether it was any of

6:55

the wide players, be it to create

6:57

a create a goal. but no one

6:59

looked likely. And that I think is

7:02

the part that I thought we had

7:04

graduated beyond was having guys in games

7:06

like this rego, we need a better

7:08

player at the level. And I think like

7:10

you look at the team and I thought

7:12

that we had kind of gotten beyond

7:14

that place where you felt like there

7:17

wasn't enough good players on the field

7:19

or that the good players on the

7:21

field didn't deliver and that I think

7:23

is the frustrating part. And I think

7:25

in some ways it's also when you look

7:28

at the any consideration of who the

7:30

coaches, because Pochitino is a

7:32

level above, certainly in terms of

7:34

resume, who Berholter was. And so

7:36

Pochitino, top, top level, and so it

7:38

removes any of the excuses to talk

7:40

about, well, if the players have this,

7:43

if the players have everything they have

7:45

possibly needed, and they're just not delivering

7:47

in games that are not even the games that

7:49

we talk about. The games that we talk about are

7:51

the third game of the group of Cop America against

7:53

Uruguay. That's the one where you go or are you

7:55

on the level of one of the eight teams that's

7:57

won the World Cup and you haven't even gotten to

7:59

that. that stage yet. You're still worried

8:01

about getting past that second phase. Well,

8:04

the reality is they have to figure,

8:06

look, in your group, there's gonna be

8:08

a Panama. Of course, it's not going

8:11

to be Panama, but I'm saying a

8:13

Panama team, Panama-like team, Panama-like team in

8:15

your group. That's where you qualify. You

8:17

don't think about qualifying in the game

8:19

if you get Germany in your group,

8:22

or you get a Brazil in your

8:24

group, or even in Italy, in your

8:26

group, as much as much as they've

8:28

struggled over the last. but you're gonna

8:30

get these are the types of

8:32

teams that you qualify for the

8:35

next round for you're hoping to

8:37

pick up a point in in

8:39

those other games if you will

8:41

right so you lose those games

8:43

you don't go through and and

8:45

that's problematic I just

8:47

I just want I I want

8:50

to start to see the direction

8:52

and we saw a little bit

8:54

against Jamaica, of course the tough

8:56

concave opponent, some ideas, direction and

8:59

we saw a little bit against

9:01

Jamaica, of course the tough concave

9:03

opponent, some ideas. I don't want

9:05

to believe that missing Anthony Robinson

9:07

who probably has been our best

9:10

player. right our best player with a

9:12

in the national team or a club level

9:14

no in the national team level as much

9:16

because if you think about what he

9:18

did against Jamaica yes right and the soccer

9:21

IQ it took to play the way that

9:23

he played and and the freedom that pochatino

9:25

game I don't want to think like whether

9:27

it's him whether it's Christian or whether

9:29

it's way or McKinney or whoever it is

9:32

balladons out here or peppy I don't want

9:34

to think like if we're missing one guy

9:36

like the whole dynamic of the team changes

9:39

because then we don't really have a good

9:41

national team. We don't have as deep a team

9:43

as we think we have. And I felt a

9:45

little bit of that last night. And I didn't

9:47

really feel it until after you. Of course, you

9:50

and I are there and we're calling what we're

9:52

seeing, right? And you're trying to put some ideas

9:54

together and give some flow of the game and

9:56

all of that stuff. But that's kind of

9:58

what I felt like. missed one guy and

10:01

this is what it looks like almost like

10:03

it was like blowing up in front

10:05

of us and I don't if we're

10:07

gonna be a good national team that

10:09

can happen. And it's not even in

10:11

a position where you're looking at it

10:13

and going left back is an important

10:15

position in the team. One of the

10:17

things that we talked about we were

10:19

talking as an overall team here at CBS

10:21

in the bill of to this as well through

10:23

the spine of the team. Do you have your

10:26

answers and I think you know we can

10:28

talk about the center forward position just

10:30

sergeant I thought was okay but the

10:32

reason why I asked earlier he had

10:34

his moment and that's that's as a

10:36

striker there's two I say all

10:38

two positions striker and goalkeeper right you

10:40

may only get one chance yep both

10:42

he and both just sergeant and Matt

10:45

Turner had one chance last night right

10:47

and didn't make a play that they

10:49

needed to make I can add aljuman

10:51

in there as well who I actually

10:53

thought was more dangerous but those positions

10:55

you have, you have one opportunity sometimes

10:57

to make your living. You'd love it

11:00

if you had three or four or

11:02

five opportunities, especially as a striker, but

11:04

you have to make a play when the

11:06

play is there. Yeah, Sergeant directing that

11:09

cross towards the back post and then

11:11

it was deflected onto the post. As

11:13

we get to some of the comments

11:16

here, Dokeki's writes, any players who can

11:18

take set pieces, please. That was a

11:20

real concern I thought in the game.

11:22

last night Tony Christian Polistic was over

11:24

corners and even when they went short

11:26

they seem like there was some elaborate

11:28

routine where Tim Wei would start off

11:30

of the pitch and then come onto

11:32

it. We were thinking it was growing

11:34

into something right so we said we

11:36

thought sometimes you do things on restarts

11:38

you run a guy in a certain

11:40

place to see how the other team

11:42

reacts and this thing off the field. We'd

11:44

seen it a couple times, but I didn't

11:47

know if it was leading to something down

11:49

the road where there would be something set

11:51

up. So when I saw that, I thought,

11:53

okay, let's kind of hold on and see

11:55

where it goes, and it didn't go anywhere.

11:58

Then there's the one we had to. the

12:00

free kick about 35 yards from

12:02

goal, a little bit central, and

12:04

it looked like nobody made run,

12:06

then Polisic put it out of

12:08

play. And you thought like,

12:10

when you're not playing well,

12:13

restarts become even more important,

12:15

right? Both with and without the ball.

12:17

And then the other thing is, it's

12:19

a peve of mind, it has been

12:22

forever, is when you don't clear the

12:24

first guy. because then whatever you're doing

12:26

in the middle of the goal, whether

12:28

you're setting a pick or whether you're

12:31

making a certain run or crossing runs,

12:33

whatever you're doing, doesn't matter anymore. You

12:35

didn't clear the first guy. Yeah, it's

12:37

the most important part of the play.

12:40

Yeah, so that part, no doubt, whoever

12:42

that was, that needs to get better.

12:44

And I think it leads me

12:46

into a conversation about Christian Polisic

12:48

because there is this feeling that

12:50

he is the leader of the team. He's the

12:52

best player in the team. and he scored

12:55

15 goals for Milan and all competitions.

12:57

He's the second player to do that

12:59

in his first two seasons at the

13:01

club since Latan. And I felt like he had

13:03

a face of frustration almost from minute

13:05

one, that it didn't seem like it

13:07

was working, that his role in the

13:10

team was working. And Marissa Paulino has

13:12

talked both publicly and we talked with

13:14

us in our call before the game,

13:16

but him being a perfect number 10,

13:18

which we'll get to that conversation later

13:20

about whether or not. Pochsino picked

13:23

enough creative midfield players. But do you think

13:25

that is his best role in the team?

13:27

And what did you make in the overall

13:29

of his inability to affect the game? Yeah,

13:31

I, I, again, I watch him every week,

13:34

right? Obviously, it's my club. I personally have

13:36

always thought he's better coming from wide areas

13:38

and finding space in the middle of the

13:40

field. right? Not when he's parked in the

13:43

middle of the field and not when he's

13:45

solely just a wide player when he has

13:47

that sort of view of the entire field

13:49

from the touchline and then he finds his

13:52

space. That's where I have found him to

13:54

be more successful. In the first half he

13:56

was central as a I'll say a dual

13:58

ten right with Weston McKinney and and that's

14:00

kind of how it's been drawn up for

14:02

a couple games. When the game opens up

14:04

and if you got counterattacking opportunities, he's

14:07

really good in that position. When they're

14:09

running at players, he's really, really good.

14:11

Probably our best player with Timothy Waya,

14:14

right, running at players in open space.

14:16

But it was clear to me that

14:18

yesterday in the first 10 minutes of game,

14:20

I realized there wasn't gonna be any open

14:23

space like that to run into. The only

14:25

time we had a chance to run into

14:27

space to run into space. was the turnover

14:30

where McKinney gives the ball to Adjuman and

14:32

there was space in behind and that's

14:34

Adjuman's profile right get on the shoulder

14:36

of players he was getting ridden on

14:38

his left shoulder a little bit so

14:40

he's trying to hold it off for

14:42

his right foot I think he probably

14:44

wanted to hit that with his left

14:46

foot but recognize that the pressure is

14:48

coming from from one side and then

14:50

the goalkeeper does a good job to

14:52

go down and and make a play

14:55

but you know, there's, there's, you know,

14:57

you look at this play, right? You've

14:59

talked about Mexico in the first five

15:01

minutes. Oh, Jimenez berries this one. Adjuman

15:03

with another opportunity. This is very similar

15:05

to the run that, uh, just sergeant

15:07

made in the first half that was

15:09

the deflection under, uh, I believe it

15:12

was, uh, Farinja's thigh and then hits

15:14

off the post. Like those were the

15:16

two moments for center forwards, but there

15:18

wasn't enough. Yeah, I felt like. So

15:20

when you have the ball that much,

15:23

don't you feel like we should creating

15:25

five, six, seven chances a half?

15:27

We created three chances in the game

15:29

and one came off a turnover credit

15:31

to us for that, but it just

15:33

felt like there needed to be more.

15:35

And you know, I always wonder what

15:37

teams that sit back. We always

15:40

talk about pressuring them, there's no

15:42

space behind. How about we sit back? Right.

15:44

We let them come a little bit. Why do we

15:46

have to pressure them that high up the field?

15:48

I understand in theory, you want to win the

15:51

ball high up the field? Okay, perfect. If you're

15:53

winning the ball high up the field three or

15:55

four or five times, okay, it's good. I think

15:57

go quicker. Right. Right. But I think like if

15:59

you. to open up space, what do you do?

16:01

You sit back a little bit. You can pressure

16:03

them at midfield or at the top of the

16:05

circle, wherever, and create a little bit more space

16:07

behind. But we just, I felt like, especially

16:10

in the first half, we didn't get out a second

16:12

year. And I think that goes to one of the

16:14

things that Maria Pochitino talked about after the game,

16:16

which was there weren't enough shots from long distance.

16:18

Which is part of the reason why I brought

16:20

Jack McGlin into the game into the game in

16:23

the second half in the second half, but I

16:25

guess. In theory, if you're coming up

16:27

against a team that is defending

16:29

like this, as if you're looking

16:31

at the US men's natural team and its

16:33

profile, what is the way to solve

16:35

this problem? Because I think the

16:38

best teams in the world basically say,

16:40

you're going to defend deep, we're going

16:42

to play through you anyway. And I

16:44

think at a certain point, you have

16:46

to kind of recognize that this US

16:48

men's national team that is not among

16:51

their skill sets, at least with the

16:53

players that are there to be. Okay,

16:55

Adjuman is a is a bigger profile,

16:57

but is he a guy that goes in

16:59

and dominates? I'm not sure that that's

17:01

his game, right? And of course, he's

17:03

available and I actually thought that he

17:06

made a bit of a difference in

17:08

the game. I wonder what happens if

17:10

he gets a full 45 minutes in

17:12

this one, because it just was. was

17:14

pretty ineffective for the most part. Yeah,

17:16

but the guys for me that would

17:18

have changed the game and we talked

17:20

about it and so did so did

17:22

Mauricio Pochitino after the game would have

17:24

been Luna and Giorana and he expected

17:26

that those two guys were going to

17:28

come in shortly before they give up

17:30

a goal. Yeah, so here are his

17:32

quotes after the game. He said, it's

17:34

true that we were waiting for the

17:36

end of the 90 minutes to have

17:38

the possibility to play geo and Diego

17:40

for different circumstances. We had to change

17:42

Richards from McKenzie, and maybe that was

17:44

the window for a different player. Those

17:46

are the circumstances, but we never expected

17:49

to concede in that moment. That's true.

17:51

But we were thinking about the option

17:53

to play geo and Diego for sure, and

17:55

they're going to have an opportunity. They

17:57

still had another substitution window. anything

18:00

really because they made the they

18:02

made a double change. I think

18:04

that one was what I wrote the

18:06

time. 79 minutes. Yeah, testman came off

18:08

at around the 68th minute at the

18:10

same time as sergeant. So you

18:13

still had a substitution window. So

18:15

I'm not I'm not certain that

18:17

explanation really makes a ton of

18:19

sense. And I think as you

18:21

said, he views ballistic and McKinney

18:24

as the tens. And if you're

18:26

taking them off. then is that the

18:28

wisest decision? But I think a lot

18:30

of people have talked about should geo

18:33

or Diego Luna have come into the

18:35

game sooner if what you're looking for

18:37

is creativity. What did you

18:39

make of the fact that he didn't?

18:41

Well, you asked me on the broadcast,

18:43

right? Am I surprised? And I said,

18:46

yeah, I'm surprised that one of those

18:48

two guys, and I thought we were

18:50

gonna, if our viewers and listeners, I've

18:52

said for like a week now since

18:54

this roster came out, we're gonna find

18:56

out where. Pochitino sits on both

18:58

Luna and Giorana in this tournament. Interesting

19:00

that they may have been coming in

19:02

at the same time, right? Because that's

19:05

when he, when I read that quote

19:07

earlier today, that's kind of what I

19:09

got. I don't know if you got

19:11

the same feeling, but. I hate reading

19:13

between the lines, but that's kind of

19:15

what he intimated. They were coming in

19:18

the same time. Then I think it's,

19:20

there's three possibilities, right? There's Waya, there's

19:22

McKinney, and Christian Polistics. So if two

19:24

of them were coming out, which ones,

19:26

either Waya was the most effective, especially

19:28

in the second half. He seemed to

19:30

turn the throttle up a little bit

19:33

and at least try and get behind

19:35

players. That would have been an interesting

19:37

look on how he set that whole

19:39

thing up. We never got to that point.

19:41

And now I'm expecting that we're going

19:43

to see those two guys against Canada,

19:45

which, by the way, I'm not sure

19:47

against Canada that both of those guys are

19:49

the right guys if they're in at the

19:52

same time. Right. So he's got some decisions

19:54

to make. Well, and in a weird way,

19:56

if they did play well against Canada, everyone

19:58

would be going, well, why? Did you just

20:00

pick him against Fatima when we

20:03

needed him in a completely different

20:05

kind of game? Do you think that

20:07

for Pochitino, this is gonna be

20:09

the beginning of a lot of scrutiny.

20:11

He had his honeymoon. won some games,

20:13

the Jamaica two-legged series was great, but

20:16

this is a real game against the

20:18

real opponent. And the first time of

20:20

asking, he didn't get it right. Did

20:22

the questions begin about his lack of

20:24

international experience, about the limited amount of

20:27

time he has with the team? What

20:29

do you think the fan base is

20:31

reaction? And please in the comment section,

20:33

what are your thoughts on Pochtino at

20:36

the moment, given everything that happened in

20:38

the game against Panama, please let us

20:40

know what you're thinking? Look, I, I,

20:42

he's our coach, right? And I

20:44

think he's got to learn, I

20:46

think he learned a valuable lesson

20:48

last night with some of these

20:50

guys in a moment, at least,

20:53

if we, I'm hoping, I should say,

20:55

he learned something that if we're going

20:57

to play a team that sits back

20:59

as much as Panama did to

21:02

counter, did I have the right guys

21:04

on the field? Right? And we

21:06

don't, but that's what he has

21:08

to study, we don't know his

21:10

answer, right, right? But I would

21:12

think that's a question he asks

21:14

himself. Is Weston as the 10

21:16

the right guy? Do I need

21:18

four guys in the back? Eunice

21:20

Musa was, responsibility was to be,

21:22

to be, and expand the game

21:24

east and west a little bit

21:26

for us. Do I maybe go

21:28

with two forwards and occupy two

21:30

of the center back, two of

21:32

the three centerbacks? Like, those are

21:34

the questions I would think that

21:36

he's asking at this moment. Do

21:38

I need four guys in the

21:40

back? Eunice Musa was, responsibility was

21:42

to be that. that Anthony Robinson roll

21:44

on the right-hand side. He told us

21:47

that's what he wanted out of that.

21:49

Did he get that from Eunice Moussa?

21:51

So these are, the answers, no, but

21:53

I mean, these are the questions that

21:55

he's gonna ask himself right now, and

21:58

we'll only find out the next. time

22:00

we we play a team, it's going

22:02

to sit back like that. Well, and

22:04

there will be a gold cup as

22:06

well, which will be interesting, although you

22:09

will probably have Gio Reiner for that,

22:11

nor either of the Juventus players, McEnney,

22:13

and Waya because of the issues, but

22:15

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22:17

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22:19

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24:01

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24:03

want. Chris Winniam alongside Tony

24:05

Miola here. No Jimmy Conrad.

24:08

No Charlie Davies. I

24:10

hear they've been summoned elsewhere.

24:12

Working, working elsewhere, mood and

24:15

minding. Air quotes, aircoats working,

24:17

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24:20

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24:22

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24:25

sideline reporter voice. I'm Charlie

24:27

Davies, CBS. Absolutely killing us.

24:30

So I mentioned we're going to look ahead

24:32

of that third place game. Before we do

24:34

that, wanted of course to look back on

24:36

the other semifinal. It took place at Sofai

24:38

Stadium on Thursday night. Obviously we talk plenty

24:40

about the US's gaming. It's Panama, both in

24:43

our reaction pot immediately after the game and

24:45

here on today's episode. But I want to

24:47

look at a little bit at Canada-Neil, Mexico-2.

24:49

Mexico get a goal inside of a minute.

24:51

and then they get a second free kick

24:53

from raul Jimenez as well betting around the

24:56

wall. Here is that first goal. Love a

24:58

little flick play, but again, you're just kind

25:00

of creating moments. It's bouncing around, it's bouncing

25:02

around and Jimenez you expect to finish. Mexico

25:04

has been in search of that number nine

25:06

up front. And Raul Jimenez has been there,

25:09

I think if not for the head injury

25:11

that he's sustained with wolves, he would have

25:13

been that guy for a long time. And

25:15

then, that's just poor setting up of the

25:17

wall, isn't it? Yeah, Jesse won't be happy

25:19

with this. There's no question about it. Can't

25:22

go around the wall like this. But I

25:24

think the big storyline from Mexico is that

25:26

Santi and Raul played together, right? And that's

25:28

been a question mark for Aguiraiida and

25:30

would he do that? I think we

25:32

might have thought that it was going

25:35

to be in the same line as

25:37

two forwards. Santi played a little bit

25:39

deeper than Raoul, but he got his

25:41

reward, right? They were good on the

25:43

night. Canada was good on the night

25:45

as well. We talked we were watching

25:48

this after the first goal. There

25:50

was a period of time

25:52

where Mexico controlled probably for

25:54

10 minutes and then Canada grew

25:56

into the game and were dominant

25:58

for a while. they out battled

26:01

Mexico, but Mexico was up to

26:03

every single challenge. I mean, when you're

26:05

looking at Esen Alvarez playing as a

26:07

center back in the back of the

26:09

three, he won every header that was put

26:11

in the box, every tackle, this is not

26:13

his position. He's being asked to play there

26:15

for a couple of different reasons. One of

26:18

them through the build out the way they

26:20

want to play, but I think the first

26:22

thing you and I and everyone in our

26:24

booth. That was a flex in our

26:26

in our box, right? In our booth?

26:28

Well, in our booth, in our booth,

26:30

in our booth, sounds like something, you

26:32

would get media, in our box, which

26:34

actually had really good food. Yeah, it

26:36

was really well catered. Yeah, yeah, no,

26:39

we're flex. That, that we, the first

26:41

thing we noticed was the intensity of

26:43

the game, right, and how it was.

26:45

It was played at a couple miles

26:47

an hour faster than the US. How

26:49

much is that as a crowd? It's

26:51

got a lot to do with it.

26:53

I know it's, but if you remember,

26:55

we heard Terry Henri talking just prior

26:57

to the game because one of the,

26:59

one of the storylines was look, this,

27:01

by the way, it's four o'clock in

27:03

LA, who can get anywhere at four

27:05

o'clock in LA, but all I hear

27:07

is about the traffic. You have to

27:10

create that. Like you have to create it

27:12

and how do you create it you you

27:14

create without the ball you go in pressure

27:16

teams in areas and you get into tackles

27:19

and you create your own atmosphere but it

27:21

was the intensity of that second game last

27:23

night was was at a completely different. Especially

27:25

after the goal. After the goal goes in

27:28

inside the first minute. I remember I was

27:30

looking at my phone just because the game

27:32

had just started and the noise was ear

27:34

piercing. What just happened? And even though, I

27:36

give a lot of respect to Canada for

27:39

how they handled that moment because could easily

27:41

have gotten away from them. The Mexico fans

27:43

were, oh, laying three minutes into the game.

27:45

And it's in LA, obviously it's a completely

27:47

pro-Mexico crowd. And Canada I thought held on

27:50

for a long period. In your mind, and

27:52

certainly in my mind as well, they should

27:54

have had a penalty about six minutes. No

27:56

doubt. No doubt. How on earth that isn't

27:58

given is completely beyond. I think the

28:00

43,000 game probably typified just how

28:03

confrontational it was. The referee had, I

28:05

thought, had a real to go to the

28:07

screen for VAR to look at that. How

28:09

that's not given is completely beyond comprehension, but

28:11

Canada I thought, played pretty well in the

28:13

game. And here are the figures at the

28:15

end, more possession to Canada and a little

28:17

bit more shots as well. I think the

28:19

43,000 that came probably just how confrontational it

28:21

was. The referee had I thought had a

28:23

real job on. just to manage that game

28:25

and keep it calm because it was

28:27

just one of those games where it

28:29

just seems like the two teams are

28:32

getting after each other over and over

28:34

again. But that's that's what that's what

28:36

Kalkkef always was like that's what and

28:38

this is this is the frustrating part

28:40

for me it's like I feel like

28:42

we I know we're talking about this

28:44

game but we as a US national

28:46

team like we We want to get

28:48

away from this as if it's like

28:50

some really bad thing. Like, let's get

28:52

away from that you have to battle

28:54

in Kalkakif and you have to fight

28:56

and kick and scratch and do all

28:58

those things that that are the, I'll

29:00

call them intangibles, if you will, call

29:03

them what, the dark arts or whatever

29:05

you want to call them. We look

29:07

at it like, we're going to get

29:09

it, we're going to get away from

29:11

that. No, no, we got to embrace

29:14

that first. I was a neutral, right? And

29:16

we're in neutrals watching this game. And

29:18

this was entertaining to me. Yes. Like

29:20

I was entertained in this match. Okay,

29:22

you get a first minute goal. It

29:24

opens up, you know, a lot of

29:26

things and changes the face of the

29:28

game a little bit and gets the

29:30

crowd into it. But I was. thoroughly

29:32

entertained with this match. Completely, completely. And

29:35

it was one of those games where

29:37

there was lots of confrontations. You also

29:39

pointed out to me in watching the

29:41

game, you mentioned that's Alvarez playing at

29:43

centerback, the two centerbacks for Canada, Cornelius

29:45

and Bonbito, the way that they were

29:47

physically getting after the game. I think in

29:49

some ways they seem like players that have moved

29:51

up a level. It's a lot of others I

29:54

think is probably based off club form, based

29:56

off of maybe his price tag on the transit

29:58

market, the best player in the Mexico team. Bonbito

30:00

moving from the rapids to France and

30:02

Cornelius playing in Europe as well. Those

30:04

guys have taken a step up as

30:06

well and you could see it. You

30:08

could see how that step up is

30:10

impacting games. Who do you think is

30:12

faster? Bonbito or Alfonso Davies? I'd like to

30:15

see them in a photo race. I

30:17

always, I feel like Alfonso Davies's game

30:19

looks like speed more than, more than

30:21

Bombito's, but yeah. But Bombito, if you

30:23

watch him, he tears the ground up

30:25

when he runs. Like the ground is

30:28

getting torn up. He's, I think he's

30:30

the best center back in Kankakef right

30:32

now. Yeah. And at his age, he's

30:34

24 years old. He might be the

30:36

best, he might, I mean, he's growing

30:38

into, he'll be there for a, he'll

30:40

be there for a while. It's one

30:43

of those where the everyone's got different

30:45

pathways man. It's just it's just there's

30:47

no one way to do it. I

30:49

know the the sort of conventional thinking

30:51

is that you grow and then you

30:53

go to Europe. It's not always just

30:55

that direct. So there are some late

30:57

bloomers in and sometimes the college route

31:00

is just the route you have to

31:02

take. Now looking at actually let's let's

31:04

get the chats reaction who I

31:06

guess to broaden up the question

31:08

a little bit. Who's the fastest

31:10

player in Kunkicaf? right now. I

31:12

feel like a lot of people

31:14

are going to say Alfonso David

31:16

just because of what it looks

31:19

like. Yeah, but bonbito I feel

31:21

like is underrated. I remember his

31:23

once is his big season MLS

31:25

with the Rapids. They have the

31:27

the tracking get a he was

31:29

the fastest player in MLS at

31:31

that time. Yeah, by sprint speed

31:33

he was right quicker than anyone

31:35

in the league. Yeah, it wouldn't

31:37

surprise me if he and I'm

31:39

sure there's no for so long. But

31:41

You watch Bonbito, watch him

31:43

recover, and then then answer

31:45

the question after that. And

31:47

if Davies is the guy, then

31:50

it's not by very much. I

31:52

thought Miles Robinson pre-injury too. Before

31:54

he got injured when he was

31:56

in Atlanta, I used to watch

31:58

him in Miami. Yeah, I covered

32:00

that game. I was calling that game

32:03

when he got injured was an

32:05

afternoon game against the Chicago fire

32:07

in Atlanta. I don't remember him

32:10

being as fast as explosive. I

32:12

think he read the game a

32:15

little bit better back then. But

32:17

yeah, a bonbito can run as

32:19

can Davies as well. I imagine

32:21

there's been some proposition to have

32:23

those two guys race at one

32:25

point and they said, no, no,

32:27

no, the hamstrings, we're just gonna

32:29

keep them. That is one of

32:31

the things, unfortunately, that even like

32:33

NFL players too, like, I think

32:35

Tyri Kille wanted to race Alfonso Davies

32:37

once and it's one of those where

32:40

you can't, you can't really do it

32:42

because the injury is just not worth

32:44

it. What, when you said that they

32:46

played well, what about their performance and

32:49

pressed you at? They play with speed,

32:51

they're confident on the ball. Immediately when

32:53

the ball turns over, you see guys

32:56

running, not jogging forward. They're sprinting

32:58

forward. They get in every tackle. They

33:00

match you physically because I think Jesse

33:02

and this group think that they're as

33:04

physical as anybody in Kolkaf. I happen

33:06

to think that they are. And they've

33:08

got they've got an Astakio Kone in

33:11

the midfield guys that can control things.

33:13

Justakio has been in there. He's kind

33:15

of the the rhythm maker. Right, he's

33:17

the guy, you get the ball, he's

33:19

involved in every sequence going forward where

33:21

he's the metronome in the middle of

33:23

the field, like every team needs that

33:26

type of guy. And I think they

33:28

can press because they have so much

33:30

recovery speed, so you can go press

33:32

when you have guys that can cover,

33:34

so you're not so worried about a

33:36

ball over the top. So yeah, this

33:38

is a really good, and by the

33:40

way, they have two goal scores. Yes,

33:42

right, and David and Kyle Lauren, and

33:45

Kyle Lauren. This is a very good generation.

33:47

This this for me. I'm obviously been

33:49

watching Canada for a long time played

33:51

against him for for 20 years. This

33:53

for me is by far the best

33:55

Canadian team that they've ever had. I guess

33:57

does that mean though that this result and I

33:59

guess the way in which it

34:01

kind of looked like Mexico's dominance

34:03

over Canada in the past. Would

34:06

that be a disappointing way for

34:08

them to go out of this tournament?

34:10

So I'm trying to frame the

34:12

answer. So if there's two losses

34:14

last night, the US lost and

34:16

Canada lost, right? Which one of

34:18

those losses would you take if you're

34:21

the manager? For me, I would take

34:23

Canada, the way that they played. You're

34:25

going to lose some games, right? They

34:27

lost in a way that they wanted to play.

34:30

We didn't. Yeah, and I think that's completely

34:32

fair. And I will say there's a comment

34:34

here. Why aren't Canada fans up in arms

34:36

about Jesse? They were the favorites in this

34:39

tournament. But I guess sort of who is

34:41

making them the favorites, I guess, is one

34:43

thing. I think there is a real build

34:45

up for Canada because as you say, this

34:48

is the best Canada team ever, but. the

34:50

best Canada team ever is roughly on

34:52

the level of the United States and

34:54

Mexico and I think a lot of

34:56

people made it in the favorites like

34:59

if you were in Canadian like I

35:01

will say on the sports books it

35:03

was very slight when you play Mexico

35:05

and Kakaaka I still think like for

35:07

me Mexico is there they're they're so

35:10

hard to beat man sometimes you have a

35:12

bogey team and I think the US has

35:14

been that bogey team for Mexico for a

35:16

while but It's Mexico, man. I know,

35:18

don't listen to social media. They've got

35:21

players in Mexico. You saw last night,

35:23

look at this group, they need to

35:25

row in the same direction and they're

35:27

good. You think they've got more

35:30

talent than Canada? You think they're

35:32

a more talented team? I

35:35

mean, it's close, but you're making

35:37

like Canada's the favorite, like, says

35:39

who, you know, in the end,

35:42

like, you're the favor you lost.

35:44

So I'd rather not be the

35:46

favorite and win, right? I just

35:49

don't know that I would put

35:51

Canada as the favorite

35:53

just yet in their good team.

35:55

And I think it's a three horse

35:58

race, you know, it will be. Who

36:00

do you think goes further in the World

36:02

Cup? If you told me, if we got

36:04

to 2027, and you told me Mexico

36:06

went the furthest than the World

36:08

Cup, it wouldn't be like a major

36:10

surprise, would it? I mean, everyone's got

36:13

home games. Everyone's got games to play,

36:15

and you know that? Who's got the

36:17

best support of these three? by how

36:19

many miles by how many miles right

36:21

thousands of miles right like and they're

36:23

gonna play some games at home and

36:25

it's not gonna be easy to play

36:28

the tournament at the Azteca yeah I

36:30

mean you let's not kid ourselves

36:32

that this is everyone says that poor

36:34

Mexico team they had some results to

36:36

change some managers that some players didn't

36:39

come some players injured right like he

36:41

men is for how many years really

36:43

right to two years to get recovered

36:45

again It's not a bad Mexico team.

36:47

This is this is a good Mexican

36:50

side with good players. Gide, is he

36:52

the guy? He, I mean, at the

36:54

moment, he is, right? The one, the

36:56

one fault of the Mexican Federation is

36:58

that they don't have any patience whatsoever

37:01

to build anything. It's not a building

37:03

team. So they've been, and I think

37:05

that does inform the conversation about them

37:07

because in some ways, even though you

37:09

might not speak Spanish, but you know.

37:12

but the feeling around Mexico is this

37:14

is a disaster once a year it

37:16

seems like every time you give up

37:18

a goal in Mexico it's a disaster

37:20

right is like that's how they react

37:23

and so they always reacted and the

37:25

one country that they never wanted to

37:27

lose to because for a hundred years

37:29

prior to 1992 which by the way

37:32

I'm going to keep reminding you

37:34

is when dosses arrow started yeah

37:36

right the they were dominant over

37:38

everybody over everybody and the one

37:40

country they don't want to lose

37:42

to is the US right because

37:44

this is their sport saying air

37:46

quotes right there sport so yeah

37:48

but it's not for me it's

37:50

it's it's never an easy game

37:52

when you play Mexico in Kalkakaf

37:54

we saw last night we know

37:56

what the atmosphere is like all

37:58

the time if you have an

38:00

experienced it live, live, maybe you don't know.

38:02

We got a reminder last night, I've experienced

38:05

it live over and over and over again,

38:07

and it never ceases to amaze me. Especially

38:09

when they get a sign of life. I'll

38:11

give a lot of credit to the US

38:13

last year in the Nations League because we

38:16

were there, we're calling the game in Dallas.

38:18

US never really gave the Mexican

38:20

fans anything to get behind. But if you

38:22

give up a goal in the first minute.

38:24

That Mexican crowd is going to be

38:26

right behind the entire time. They're waiting

38:29

for new heroes to develop. I was

38:31

struck by how much they love Chuki

38:33

Lozano last year. They're waiting for new

38:36

guys to be their guys to get

38:38

behind the team. But I think in some

38:40

ways, that is a little bit instructive

38:42

of, you will go through downs of

38:45

maybe having a little bit more perspective

38:47

about a US defeat. Because the US won

38:49

this tournament three straight times. and I know

38:51

that the goal is to keep to win

38:53

it every year but it's just not going

38:56

to happen and to lose your minds I

38:58

think in the way that sometimes the Mexican

39:00

media the Mexican fans lose their minds anytime

39:02

they lose a game to a team that

39:04

they showed it I think you have to

39:07

maintain a little bit of perspective about yeah

39:09

they would they would have been still good

39:11

this Mexico team is still good yeah honestly

39:13

I bought into how negative the conversation

39:15

around them was how negative the like I

39:17

oh yeah they don't have any they don't

39:20

have great players anymore but the show yesterday

39:22

they can still turn in performance yeah no

39:24

no question about it but never easy to

39:26

play against but again I go back to by

39:29

the way had they lost last night there

39:31

would have been that conversation because you're gonna

39:33

lose the their perception you lose the Canada

39:35

I don't care how good Canada is we

39:38

beat Canada that that's that's what their thought

39:40

processes but again I go back to the

39:42

two losses Canada lost playing the way that

39:44

they wanted to the way that they wanted to

39:46

play Right. We didn't lose playing the way

39:48

we wanted to play last night. And that

39:50

for me is the part that that's the

39:53

sort of the baseline. We have to get

39:55

to a point where look, you know, you

39:57

said it. We're never going to win every

39:59

game. Right. not it's not obviously it's not

40:01

feasible but you want to see some progression

40:03

you want to see some ideas that we

40:05

can build on we thought we were getting

40:07

there with Jamaica and last night we took

40:09

a step back for me yeah and that is

40:11

really disappointing part from a US point of view

40:14

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41:23

This is the goal that knocked the

41:25

United States out of the Kalkikaf Nations

41:27

League. Only a third place match left

41:29

to play. Kokokaraskiya, Cecilia Waterman, and you

41:32

just look at that angle. Again and

41:34

again, 16 yards, well outside of the

41:36

width of that six-yard box, and he

41:38

gets it into that bottom corner. Questions

41:40

about Matt Turner in that situation.

41:42

Tony, you talked about it. After the game,

41:45

we talked about it here. You get that

41:47

one moment. You've got to produce the

41:49

one moment. Maybe he's too shaded. towards

41:51

that near post but still really cool

41:53

for Cecilia Waterman who shouted you're

41:55

my idol to Tierrae Henri on that set

41:58

what an interesting moment that was is

42:00

also check out that video on social media

42:02

and our Galas America Instagram and Tiktak as

42:04

well. I got to give credit to Andrea

42:06

Pilad who is our social media correspondent and

42:08

she was right there and got that angle

42:10

even as the players are rushing towards her

42:12

she was getting knocked over but she was

42:15

able to get that shot. It's a really

42:17

great video. Check that out. But that takes

42:19

us into a conversation about this third place

42:21

match. Will there be a change in goal

42:23

for the US Men's national team and that

42:25

will allow us to get into our projected

42:27

starting 11 for this one? Tony, how do

42:29

you see Maria Puccino approaching the game in terms

42:32

of how many changes I want to bring in?

42:34

And if he is thinking about this as yet

42:36

more data to collect of the best guys together,

42:38

even if it's a game that doesn't necessarily count

42:40

or mean much? I would think we're going to

42:43

see three or four changes at least in this

42:45

game in goal. I would expect that we see

42:47

one. And for no other reason other than it's

42:49

a third place game and I think he's got

42:51

I said this on the the desk last night

42:54

after the night after the game. he's got a

42:56

he's got a projected in a way that you

42:58

know if Matt Turner's just guy look you're

43:00

my guy it's a third place game

43:02

I need to see some other guys

43:04

play right and I would think there's

43:06

that around the rest of the team

43:09

he said we're gonna see Giorana Diego

43:11

Luna I don't know if we see

43:13

them together if we see him from

43:15

the start but I would imagine at

43:17

least one of those guys is playing

43:19

I would think we see a change

43:21

at centerback with rain reen probably going

43:23

out we see the parry of Richards,

43:25

if he's okay, right? We still don't

43:27

know. He took a little head injury

43:29

yesterday with Mark McKenzie. Maybe see a different

43:31

right back. Does he go Timothy Waya at

43:34

right back? I would think Moussa goes to

43:36

the bench after the performance. Do you put

43:38

Max Arfsten in at left back just so

43:40

that you can play a natural left foot

43:43

or a natural right foot? Yeah, I think

43:45

the balance is there's a couple things right

43:47

for a manager. Too many guys, you just

43:50

skew it one way where it looks like

43:52

a completely new dynamic. And then you also

43:54

have to measure for me, you have to

43:56

measure, we don't have a lot of time

43:59

if I'm pojototino. the last opportunity, I'm

44:01

going to see the full team

44:03

probably until before the World Cup.

44:05

We talked about goal cup and

44:07

how they're going to be missing

44:09

some players likely. So do I run

44:11

out another sort of full group

44:13

with some logical changes in there?

44:16

That's a decision he's going to have

44:18

to make, but I would guess three

44:20

or four changes. Yeah, which which will

44:22

be interesting. Now, if there is to

44:24

be a change in goal, our producers

44:26

are telling us that the chat is

44:28

in favor of it being Would you

44:30

think it would be Zach Steffen or

44:32

would Patrick Shulty get a shot there?

44:34

The sort of the sentiment I'm getting

44:37

from being around here all week is that

44:39

it's going to be Patrick Shulty. But I

44:41

don't know. I think that I've said time

44:43

and time again, I think Zach Steffen

44:46

has grown into becoming the goalkeeper that

44:48

we saw prior to going to Manchester

44:50

City. At least he's a heck of

44:52

a lot closer to that than he's

44:55

been for quite some time. It had

44:57

a great weekend again this weekend. I

44:59

think it was at San Jose, right?

45:01

He still happens, yeah, for Colorado. But

45:03

I would not be surprised if

45:06

it's Patrick Scholty. Yep, and I

45:08

think that would be a really interesting

45:10

one. He's gotten a lot of games.

45:12

You did the math on the number

45:15

of games he's played in comparison to

45:17

Turner last night. He's played more than,

45:19

is it more than 60 more games

45:21

than Turner? Since the World Cup, it's

45:23

26 months since the World Cup, Matt's

45:26

played 28 games. So about a game

45:28

a month, right? But since last year's

45:30

Nations League, It's 360 minutes

45:32

for Matt Turner. It's over 3800

45:34

for both. So 10 times more

45:36

for both Scholty and for Zach

45:38

Steffen. And again, I'm just a

45:41

firm believer and you can disagree

45:43

with me if you want. I

45:45

just don't know how you get

45:47

better not playing first team minutes

45:49

anywhere. I don't care where you're

45:51

at. I just don't see especially

45:53

in this position where it's a

45:55

rhythm position and you don't get

45:57

a mulligan at a second chance.

45:59

at something. I just don't know how

46:01

you get better. It also feels like a

46:04

pressure thing too, where all of

46:06

a sudden every moment becomes more

46:08

magnified. Goalkeepers can make mistakes, things

46:10

can happen. But you get another crack

46:12

at it, whereas Matt Turner must think

46:15

that every time he plays, whether it's

46:17

for Palace of the U.S. Massachusetts team,

46:19

these are precious. minutes and I have

46:21

to make him all right that might

46:23

enter his mindset as well. Yeah I

46:25

mean we're not in his head right

46:27

and he had a moment last night

46:29

where and you know after the game

46:31

I will say this I said I

46:33

don't put the blame on Matt Turner

46:35

and what I was talked I don't

46:37

think is I explained my my my

46:39

positioning on his position the

46:41

dive everything what I meant by saying

46:44

that Chris was Do you put it

46:46

on Christian Polisico headed the

46:48

ball back? Do you put it

46:50

on Mark McKenzie who stepped in

46:53

and didn't make the play?

46:55

Do you put it on

46:57

no pressure on karaskia? Do you

46:59

put it on scali or

47:01

ream not closing down? Or do

47:03

you put it on Matt Turner?

47:05

So you just pick who you

47:07

want to put the blame on?

47:09

I just chose not to blame

47:11

just him for the goal of

47:14

the. Canada and Mexico game alongside

47:16

your dad. How was that? Yeah,

47:18

that was that was that. Let

47:20

me get in the shot here.

47:22

Thanks. Thanks for having me guys. Um,

47:24

what's up, Tony? How are you doing?

47:26

Oh, I'm great. Yeah, after yesterday. Um,

47:28

that was awesome. Getting to that with

47:30

my dad, it was great. It's difficult

47:33

for me sometimes to see past like

47:35

the first filter that I have of

47:37

my dad, which is my dad, and

47:39

sometimes he says things, especially when

47:41

it's in a language that we

47:43

don't. communicate him like we speak

47:45

in Spanish right yeah so sometimes

47:47

I don't know if he's being

47:49

like my cringe dad when he's

47:52

trying to embarrass me you know

47:54

he's being the you know the

47:56

legendary brother so I don't know

47:58

you guys tell me I had fun.

48:00

I had a lot of fun. It sounded great.

48:02

Yeah. Sounds like you were having fun. I'm happy.

48:04

You know, I'm blessed. This is not something a

48:06

lot of people get to do. So being with

48:09

my dad doing that on national TV

48:11

for a really important game, that was

48:13

awesome. Now quickly, because you were watching

48:15

Canada more intently than maybe we were

48:17

last night, what do you make of

48:20

them going into this third place match

48:22

against the US? What did you think

48:24

of their performance and do you think

48:27

they've? How will they approach this third

48:29

place game against the best? Yeah, I

48:31

was a little bit disappointed in Canada

48:34

to be honest after yesterday. We had

48:36

built them up. We had seen them

48:38

in Copa Merikam and they've generated a

48:40

lot of excitement around this team and

48:43

by no means is losing to

48:45

Mexico a confidence breaker. But

48:47

I did expect to see a little

48:50

bit more from Canada. They balanced the

48:52

game out, maybe not the score

48:54

line. They had moments, but

48:56

it was like not good enough, right?

48:58

It was like, yeah, great. Sure, like

49:01

they're building up to something

49:03

and then they didn't score.

49:05

Jonathan David ultimately didn't

49:07

do what he needed to do.

49:10

Neither did Kyle Laren. I didn't

49:12

think Osorio on the wing and

49:14

then when he played in the

49:16

central channels was great. Not having

49:19

Shafelberg from the beginning, I think.

49:21

hurt them obviously he was coming

49:23

back from injury so he couldn't

49:26

do a full 90. I thought

49:28

they were underwhelming really and Mexico

49:30

in the most important moments bullied

49:33

them. They weren't perfect from

49:35

start to finish. They gave Canada

49:37

a couple of opportunities that they

49:39

didn't take and then Mexico said

49:41

you know what we'll play a

49:43

mature game. I don't want to

49:45

jump the gun but I have a

49:47

feeling that Mexico is back. Yeah, I mean

49:50

he was, Tony's been saying that he think

49:52

they might be the team that goes the

49:54

farthest in the 2026 World Cup of the

49:56

hosts. Well, look at what you get

49:58

from an experienced cope. coach like

50:00

Basque Aguirre, a guy who's been

50:02

around the block, not just once,

50:04

not twice, not three times, not

50:06

four times, this dude knows what

50:08

it's like. So he brings that

50:11

grit, that, that bite. Jesse Marsh

50:13

told us when we were interviewing

50:15

him before the game, he mentioned

50:17

a Carloncellotti quote about playing Basquegira

50:19

teams that it's like taking a

50:21

trip to the dentist. And Mexico

50:23

yesterday pulled a couple of molars

50:25

from from Canada's bike. You're not

50:27

a bad team, man. Yeah, Mexico's

50:29

not a bad man. Look at Ochumen. The

50:31

way that he played, that's what that's what

50:34

you expect from your best player, game in,

50:36

game out. He's a man with confidence. And

50:38

when he sets a tone from the very

50:40

beginning, I understand it's not that,

50:42

it wasn't like that world class moment

50:44

at the very beginning, it wasn't a

50:46

beautiful goal, but the heel flick opened

50:48

something up and he took the opportunity,

50:50

you know, as a heel flick, a

50:52

ricochet, game over. All right, well that'll do it

50:55

for this edition of Call What You Want.

50:57

Thanks for jumping in. Yeah, great. Great. And

50:59

we'll have lots more coverage here from Los

51:01

Angeles for the rest of this week. Again,

51:03

Kalki Kap Nations League, third place match, USA

51:06

and Canada, final, Panama, and Mexico. Thanks for

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