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Well, 2024 is behind us and we
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seem to, at least for now, 2024
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is behind us and we seem
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to, at least for now, have avoided
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civil war, so now it's time
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for us to look ahead to 2025
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year make predictions for what the world
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will look like one year from
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now. But last year we must review my
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predictions from last year and see
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how we did. people I think it's kind
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of ridiculous that people make predictions
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year after year and keep getting them
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wrong and people still trust their
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opinions. I'm looking at you, Robert Kiasaki. I'm
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I'm looking at you, all of the
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people who predicted economic meltdowns every
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year for the last 50 years and
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just continue to be wrong and
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everybody still keeps buying your newsletter. I'm
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also looking at you, looking at you, Harry
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Dent. make When people make
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predictions happen, I don't happen. that
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think it's reasonable that those people be
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held accountable, so let's hold me
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accountable to the predictions I made a
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year ago ago see how I did.
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First, I I predicted that interest rates
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would stay high would stay we would have
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a mild economic recession. recession. year, people
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were saying that we would get would get six
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interest rate cuts this year from the Fed.
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And I said, that's ridiculous. That
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will never happen. will At best,
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we'll get We'll percentage point cut.
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cut. And that's exactly what we
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got. we got. We actually cut more often
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than I thought, I but overall interest
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rates stayed high. stayed high by was
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was wrong about an economic recession. At
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at least depending on who you ask. you
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Technically, we did not have a recession
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this year. And so I got the
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interest rates part rates I got the
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recession part wrong. Instead, what we saw
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was that interest rates stayed high but
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also asset prices stayed really high. What
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the heck is that all about? That's That's
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gonna lead into a prediction that I
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have for 2025. for 2025. But overall we
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saw a strong year of
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growth, but still persistent inflation, and interest
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rates stayed high. high. And that
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trend probably is gonna continue
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into 2025. The second thing that
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I predicted was that we
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would have a new new e-commerce plan. emerged
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in 2024. It seemed reasonable to me
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that it was time for there to
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be a real player to come out
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and compete against amazon.com. We hadn't seen
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one come out in more than a
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decade and it was time. Boy oh
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boy did I get this one right.
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No one except for me could have
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predicted that TikTok shop would become the
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player that it did in 2024. and
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it is now a serious contender for
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market share against Amazon. What we also
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saw in 2024 was Walmart.com start to
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have a resurgence. Walmart.com now does the
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same volume that Amazon did 10 years
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ago. That's really interesting because 10 years
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ago everybody thought that it was a
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really good time to get into e-commerce
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and now Walmart does this same volume
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that Amazon did back then. So we
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have some very interesting tailwinds in e-commerce
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with the emergence of TikTok shop with
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Walmart.com and Amazon continuing to perform and
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have record Black Fridays and record prime
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days. These are some very interesting indicators
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for what we can expect in e-commerce
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heading into 2025. My third prediction from
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last year was my number one stock
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pick. I like to pick one stock
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every year that I predict will go
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up and my prediction last year was
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PayPal. This is a stock that most
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people overlooked, even thought was a dying
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company. I looked at the vision and
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the new team and said, this is
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a company that I would bet on.
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And I'm going to give myself an
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A on this one. I went pretty
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heavy into PayPal, at least for me,
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and I was rewarded with almost 60%
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upside in 2024, compared to a very
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good year with the S&P 500, which
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went up about 25 or 30%. In
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fact, I think the S... and P
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may have had a record year so
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overall it was a really good year
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for stocks but my number of
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PayPal did exceptionally
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well. It wasn't as
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good as my
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pick from two years
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ago. pick My number
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one pick two
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years ago was one pick
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which has gone
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up 500 % since
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then. up 500% since then. I'll take
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60 % on a stock that most
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people overlooked and said was even a
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company. a What's my pick for next year?
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my pick tuned! year? Stay finally,
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I said that we would
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see a rise in the
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the -commerce conglomerate, meaning that I
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thought that big companies would
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start to merge in 2024.
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this big this big wave
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of acquisitions from the
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post a era. rate
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in a high it environment, it
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makes sense that we start to
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see to see start to happen
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in e-commerce. And I'm gonna give myself
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an incomplete on this one.
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We did see some evidence of
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it. For example, Dr. Pepper
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acquired Ghost Energy, which which was a
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really interesting move. That's big big
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companies starting to come together and
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Ghost was a fairly modest
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sized e -commerce company just a
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handful of years ago. So a
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a very interesting partnership. There was
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also an an that
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was announced between
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Amazon and between This
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has never happened before,
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where you see
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two giants in the
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industry come together
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and combine resources. That
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is unprecedented. is unprecedented. So
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see hints of this idea
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there being conglomeration in but
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it was not the not
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the big year that I
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thought that it would be.
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be a I'm gonna get myself a C minus
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on that prediction. on that prediction. I
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get about a about a my
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predictions predictions from A few of a few
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knocked out of the park the
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a couple, couple, you know, I half half
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partially right. right, totally got
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got the one wrong. Thought we'd have
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a mild thought we'd have a mild recession. we
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had Actually, we had another boom year,
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another inflation year, but a boom year.
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So what do we expect in 2020? What
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can we What can we expect
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based on what we saw in
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the economy, in politics, in in
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e -commerce, in entrepreneurship? go into that
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go into that right now. I'll share
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with you what I see I see
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emerging, I what trends I see happening
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in e and I'll and I'll give you
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my top stock 2025. Remember, I'm
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an idiot that you follow an idiot that
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you follow on the take anything Take
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anything that I say is. investment advice.
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That would be be done. First, let's
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talk about a new industry that I see
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emerging in 2025. I see emerging in 2025,
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and it's AI SAS companies. It's gonna be
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so easy to spin up
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a software as a service company
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in 2025 in you can just
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create a prompt or a
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small piece of code in AI,
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spin up a new tool, a
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sell it for it bucks a
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month and have this new
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tool that just does whatever
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you program it to do. do. This
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is kind of a silly example, but
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we've actually programmed a bot with all of
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my content, with my book, of all my
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with and can now
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respond to questions in
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my voice. my voice. It it took
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us minutes to spin something like
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this up. what you're gonna see is
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that is that program bots and you
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can program little tools to do small
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tasks. And it's gonna be easy
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to sell those for to 50 bucks to
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50 bucks a month the on what
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the functionality is. I And so I
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think that you will see a new
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industry emerge and these little tools
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that get created and that become software
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tools. And they could be dollar dollar
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businesses spinning spinning something up in a
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few minutes and selling that as
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a new. as a new tool, going to
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be a new wave of small
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businesses that entrepreneurs are going to
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pounce on in 2025. in 2025. Number two, crypto
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communities. I might I might be early
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on this one, but eventually, this
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is going to play out. The The
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real takeaway from the crypto boom
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is going to be crypto communities.
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Eventually, people are going to their their
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resources. and create cryptocurrencies that
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they use to build
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community and transact with one
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another with those are going
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to become asset classes.
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We see this happening in
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meme stocks, the real
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magic behind the real magic behind Doj coin
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or Shiba or or or. Fark coin, for
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for goodness sake, is is the fact that
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there is a community with aligned
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incentives. Now, right now, the only aligned
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incentive is the fact that they're
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all trying to make money together. that
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But all that's going to
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be other incentives, too. When
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churches, going or be other or
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companies, or or communities with
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a certain set of values
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come together and they create
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their own economy, their own
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source of commerce, that's gonna
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be the real the in
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this in boom. boom. In fact, that
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was what made Bitcoin. Bitcoin started
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because it was a group of
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people who wanted to have a
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currency that the government couldn't manipulate.
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It was us It was us crazy libertarians got
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Bitcoin off the ground. Full disclosure,
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I was a total doubter in
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Bitcoin for many, many years. That
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was a prediction I got wrong.
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But what Bitcoin shows is that shows
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people come together as a community
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and they have shared values and
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a shared incentive, they can change
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the world. it's only a matter
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of time. time people have
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aligned incentives and start a
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crypto to almost make
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it official. it Next, in
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e in we're gonna see
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a rise in luxury
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brands. The reason for this is
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because the is to the bottom to the
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bottom over. We've seen as
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much of a race to
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the bottom as we are going
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to see in e-commerce. The
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margins in the mass brands has been
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squeezed. been squeezed. And so
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the only way that you
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can differentiate is by having
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a truly different, unique, high -quality
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product with good margins, and
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that requires a a. of the
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from from low quality brands
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to high quality luxury brands. Here's
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how I figured this one out.
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I got got -involved in the business
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that I sold back in 2017
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and honestly I I thought it was
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gonna be harder this time around.
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But what I noticed is that
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e -commerce entrepreneurs are really bad right
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now. now. People don't build audiences. build
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They don't build really high quality
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products. They're just trying to compete with
10:26
all the other brands and charge
10:28
less money than everybody else. else. And They're
10:30
not really good at marketing at they're not really
10:32
good at differentiating their product. at differentiating
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their product. People aren't good in It's been
10:37
such a booming space that you
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haven't had to be good. It's like
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It's a crypto right now. You don't
10:43
even need to be different. You be
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be trendy and you win until
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you rug pull everybody else. else. e -commerce
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has has of been like that
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for the last few years. You
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haven't even needed to be good. even
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Now, if you are good, are good,
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you stand out you are able
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to have really high margins and
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really high quality products and you
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end up getting all of this
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market share even in saturated markets.
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saturated I think that we will
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see our return to high to high margin.
11:13
-commerce brands because a few entrepreneurs will
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realize, realize, if you're reasonably good
11:17
at this, this, can absolutely clean up. So we're
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gonna see a new wave of high see a
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new wave. of high in
11:23
luxury brands in e -commerce, even
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on platforms like Amazon, where
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everybody else is trying to
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charge the minimum. see the you'll
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see the brands that win will be
11:34
the ones with premium price points. points. Next,
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I'm going to predict that
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politically or... or societyally, we
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see a We see a
11:43
to to community, a or
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a return to some sense
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of unity. We'll see
11:50
people start to work together again,
11:52
even if they disagree on things.
11:55
on things. has has
11:57
peaked. is now is
11:59
now. dying off. We now realize that We
12:01
now realize that we don't have to hate
12:03
each other if we have different conclusions and we
12:06
are starting to realize that. that the
12:08
world is a little bit more nuanced
12:10
and less black and white than
12:12
we thought. And the people on that
12:14
team aren't always enemies. Sometimes they
12:16
just have a different perspective. And so
12:18
why don't we just get back
12:20
to normal of doing business together? And
12:22
why don't we just come together
12:24
with. with a a unified vision of
12:26
how we can win together and
12:29
serve the community or the
12:31
world together. So I think
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we are going to see a
12:35
much more moderate tone in the
12:37
world, less a return a return to
12:39
community, and we're gonna see more
12:42
incentives for that to be the
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case. There are stronger incentives now now
12:46
us to work together in spite
12:48
of our differences, rather than throw
12:50
stones at each other other it's
12:52
not cool anymore to judge a
12:55
group of people for their beliefs.
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I'm really glad that that's the
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case. now Now we can move forward.
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And I give - the credit to
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capitalism for that one for
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capitalism is the force
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in which is the combined resources,
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our combined focus is worth
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more together together than... They are separate. The
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The most unifying force in the world
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is trade. are When we are incentivized
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to trade together, we we don't care
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so much about what you look
13:22
like or what you believe we care
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about what we can do together
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and that creates understanding and trade. and
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And so I think we're going to
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see the next to see the next more
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unified visions together and
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less and less judgment. let's talk about
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the economy. I think this year we're
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going to we're going to see... a pretty boring
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year. think that
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the euphoria, the excitement
13:45
about the Trump crypto,
13:47
about crypto, about interest
13:49
rates coming down, in I think that's all
13:51
priced in right now. And so I think
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we're going to have a pretty tepid
13:56
environment in terms of growth this year. I
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think there's going to be some tempered
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expectations once the new comes in, people are
14:02
going to realize that not much is
14:04
going to change quickly. change there is
14:06
going to be If it's going to
14:08
take some time. I also think
14:11
that take some got also tough pill to
14:13
swallow pill we realize that realize and Trump
14:15
really do want to create a
14:17
more efficient government. That means that we're
14:19
going to have to reduce spending.
14:21
And when we to spending, that's
14:23
tough in the short
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term. that's tough in the short exciting
14:28
to see money taken out of
14:30
the the economy. It's the right thing
14:32
to do term, but but it could
14:34
be hard in the short term when
14:36
it comes the amount of money amount of
14:38
money that is being spent in
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the economy. So So I think we
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will see see expectations and slow
14:44
growth, not necessarily a recession, but
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overall a flat year while we
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readjust to a new environment. Now
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let's conclude with my number one
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stock pick for 2025. I I gotta
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give a little bit of context
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to this. I don't see any
14:59
obvious opportunities right now. The right
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so hot so I think that a
15:03
lot of optimism is already priced
15:05
in. So there's not a lot
15:07
of not a lot opportunities. So,
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I'm gonna give you two I like
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and then my number one pick. I
15:14
like I like which is kind
15:16
of a weird pick, but
15:18
it's a fascinating story. Kellogg's, as
15:20
we know it, doesn't even
15:23
exist anymore. They split into two
15:25
companies in 2023, in and their
15:27
snack brand, which had Pringles
15:29
and and cheesets, acquired by by Mars. So
15:31
So, all of those Kellogg's brands,
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they're just part of Mars
15:36
now. Mars what was what is
15:38
this tiny little little startup
15:40
that is is Kellogg cereals. They IPO
15:42
a a billion dollar They're
15:44
tiny, they're operating like a
15:47
They're I'm fascinated. I'm
15:49
stories like that. And when you
15:51
have this big brand spun
15:53
off into a spun off into a just
15:55
it's just really fascinating
15:58
to watch. So So I think Kella. is
16:00
gonna be a very interesting
16:02
play over the next couple of
16:04
years. I also think, ooh,
16:06
this is gonna piss some people
16:08
off. Pfizer is gonna be
16:10
a very interesting stock to watch
16:12
in 2025. For all the
16:14
people who say they just got
16:16
into it for the money,
16:18
Pfizer lost over a hundred billion
16:20
dollars in market share over
16:22
the last couple of years. Their
16:24
stock is down over 50%.
16:26
They weren't even profitable last year.
16:28
They just swung the pendulum
16:30
into profitability again, and they have
16:32
all this brand recognition and
16:34
a ton of R &D. So
16:36
I think Pfizer is gonna be
16:38
an interesting pick in 2025.
16:40
But my number one pick for
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2025 is Alibaba. Sport, full
16:45
disclosure, I own some Alibaba. I'm
16:47
long Alibaba, and this is not
16:49
investment advice. Don't listen to anything
16:51
that I say I'm an idiot
16:53
that you follow on the internet.
16:55
But I think that China is
16:58
gonna be fine. They're gonna weather
17:00
their own storm. I think e
17:02
-commerce is very strong right now.
17:04
And Alibaba as a company is
17:06
still hugely profitable. However, the stock
17:08
itself has been beat up. They
17:10
used to be one of the
17:12
highest valued companies in the world,
17:14
and today they've fallen by over
17:17
70%. So there's been a lot
17:19
of bad news keeping the price
17:21
down of Alibaba. I think that
17:23
this is gonna be the year
17:25
where they start to swing in
17:27
the other direction. So there is
17:29
so much stimulus happening in China.
17:31
China is gonna be fine in
17:33
the long term, and e -commerce is
17:35
so strong that I think Alibaba
17:38
is gonna benefit from tailwinds in
17:40
2025, and it's going to start
17:42
to recover as a stock. And
17:44
they've got huge profits. They're gonna
17:46
be fine. So that's my number
17:48
one stock pick for 2025. It's
17:50
Alibaba. When it comes to predictions,
17:52
I agree with Scott Adams. Predictions
17:54
are a way of testing if
17:57
your filter on the world is
17:59
accurate. When I look at the
18:01
people, who make predictions about the
18:03
economy melting, and they're wrong they're
18:05
year after year. year, I believe
18:07
believe that that's evidence that their
18:09
their on the world is wrong.
18:12
when people make predictions about certain
18:14
cryptos going to the and it
18:17
doesn't happen. I I think that means
18:19
that their filter on the world
18:21
is wrong. world is is a way
18:23
for us to test to my
18:25
optimistic frame on the world. And
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I'd love to hear what you
18:30
thought of my predictions if you've
18:32
got any ones for for 2025, that are
18:34
that are different from mine, take
18:36
care. And now a And now a quick
18:38
word from Dr. Ziegler, Travis one of our
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of our members from the capitalism.com community.
18:43
I'm Travis Ziegler and along with
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my wife, Dr. Jenna Ziegler, we
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