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1:00

CBS News Headquarters in

1:02

New York, this is

1:04

the CBS evening news.

1:08

Good evening, I'm Maurice Dubois. I'm

1:10

John Dickerson. The chat was all

1:12

the talk today. The security breach

1:14

that allowed a journalist to join

1:16

a chat in which the Trump

1:18

national security team was planning an

1:21

attack on Houthi rebels in Yemen.

1:23

The president downplayed it, insisting there

1:25

was nothing classified in the chat,

1:27

which used the texting app known

1:29

as signal. On Capitol Hill, members

1:31

of Congress did what they usually

1:33

do, choosing sides and adjectives. Republicans

1:36

call the breach a mistake. Mark

1:38

Warner chose sloppy, careless, incompetent, and

1:40

topped it all off with fiasco.

1:42

Republican John Kennedy said most Americans

1:45

don't care about the breach, but

1:47

fellow Republican Lindsay Graham acknowledged we

1:49

dodged a bullet. And CBS News

1:51

has learned the administration was warned

1:54

recently not to use the signal

1:56

app because it is not secure.

1:58

O'Keefe is at the White House,

2:01

Ed. Good evening, guys. That's right.

2:03

A little more than two weeks

2:05

before that journalist was accidentally added

2:07

to the group tech, CBS News

2:10

has learned a national security agency

2:12

issued this memo warning against using

2:14

signal. Because it's so popular, the

2:17

NSA warned, signal could be a

2:19

quote, high-value target to intercept sensitive

2:21

information. President Trump

2:23

insisted today the texting troubles caused

2:25

by his top officials weren't a

2:27

big deal. There was no classified

2:29

information as I understand it. But

2:31

Atlantic magazine editor and chief Jeffrey

2:34

Goldberg who was added accidentally to

2:36

the signal group chat says top

2:38

officials were discussing sensitive secretive war

2:40

plans to bomb Huthi rebels in

2:42

Yemen. I found it completely improbable

2:44

that... the top national security leadership

2:46

in the United States would be

2:48

discussing on a commercial messaging app,

2:50

the possible imminent attack on another

2:52

country, and that they would mistakenly,

2:54

I assume mistakenly, invite the editor-in-chief

2:56

of the Atlantic magazine into their

2:58

discussion. Goldberg reported that Defense Secretary

3:01

Pete Heggseth shared highly sensitive operational

3:03

details about the March 15 strikes,

3:05

including targets, weapons the U.S. would

3:07

be deploying, and when they'd be

3:09

fired. National Security advisor Mike Walsh,

3:11

who originally invited Goldberg to the

3:13

chat, was one of many Trump

3:15

allies today who sought to discredit

3:17

him. in this kind of nonsense,

3:19

rather than the freedom that you're

3:21

enabling. Democrats on Capitol Hill were

3:23

infuriating. The administration wasn't taking any

3:25

responsibility for the mistake. Grilling National

3:28

Intelligence Director Tulsi Gabbard and CIA

3:30

Director John Radcliffe, both of whom

3:32

were part of the group chat.

3:34

Director Radcliffe, this was a huge

3:36

mistake. Correct? This is utterly unprofessional.

3:38

There's been no apology. There has

3:40

been no recognition of the gravity

3:42

of this error. Gabbard acknowledged she

3:44

was traveling abroad during part of

3:46

the chat, as was the president's

3:48

envoy to the Middle East and

3:50

Russia, Steve Whitcalfe, who was in

3:52

Moscow at the time. Chris O'Leary

3:55

worked in counterterrorism at the FBI.

3:57

This is signaling to the entire

3:59

world that our most senior leaders

4:01

have poor operational security, and there

4:03

is an opportunity here to maybe

4:05

pursue them. Now Ed, what else

4:07

have we learned about how the

4:09

White House uses these types of

4:11

apps available to the public? Well,

4:13

first off, we know the president

4:15

still uses a personal cell phone,

4:17

unclear if he discusses or receives

4:20

any sensitive information or if there's

4:22

any protection on that phone. As

4:24

for signal, we know administration officials

4:26

today, we're reassessing how often to

4:28

use it, but it is quite

4:30

popular with Trump administration officials as

4:32

it was during the Biden era,

4:34

because they discuss internally and externally

4:36

all sorts of issues on it.

4:38

The Trump team sees it as

4:40

a convenient tool that is secure

4:42

because there's been no evidence of

4:44

it ever being hacked. Ed, Maurice

4:47

and I were talking earlier about

4:49

the fact the White House says

4:51

there's no classified information here and

4:53

we both said, so they'd be

4:55

okay with releasing it and letting

4:57

Goldberg release it? Are they okay

4:59

with it? Well, not quite. Look,

5:01

they're in cleanup mode. They acknowledge

5:03

this is a mistake, but they

5:05

are in no way encouraging Goldberg

5:07

to release the rest of the

5:09

information he has, believing private conversations

5:11

should have and should remain. One

5:14

more thing here, Ed, just 15

5:16

seconds or so, what would happen

5:18

if a low-level staffer did this

5:20

kind of thing? Would they still

5:22

have a job? If it was

5:24

someone in the military, they'd likely

5:26

be court-martialed and kicked out. Intelligence

5:28

diplomatic and military officials, no. You

5:30

don't share classified or sensitive information

5:32

on commercially available apps because it's

5:34

against the law. Ed O'Keefe at

5:36

the White House for us, thank

5:38

you Ed. We have an update

5:41

now on a story we've been

5:43

following closely the deportation of hundreds

5:45

of Venezuelan migrants to El Salvador

5:47

without due process. The Trump administration

5:49

insists they are criminals and gang

5:51

members, but as we've reported there

5:53

is... reason to believe some are

5:55

not. Lily Luciano talked to another

5:57

wife who insists her husband is

5:59

no criminal and no gang member

6:01

and then Lily has spoke to

6:03

the president's borders are. By now

6:05

you've seen the videos from El

6:08

Salvador. More than 200 Venezuelan men

6:10

deported from the US and dropped

6:12

into one of the world's most

6:14

dangerous prisons known as secut. One

6:16

of the faces in the crowd

6:18

is Nice's partner, she says. How

6:20

did you feel when you saw

6:22

the prison? It was terrifying to

6:24

see the videos. She's nine months

6:26

pregnant, past her due date. He's

6:28

not going to be there when

6:30

his child is born. Her partner

6:32

is Henry Albournos. The 29-year-old crossed

6:35

the southern border more than a

6:37

year ago. He's been working as

6:39

a mechanic in Texas and was

6:41

detained in January during a routine

6:43

check-in with federal agents. According to

6:45

his attorney, Alburnos has no criminal

6:47

record here or in Venezuela. He

6:49

has never been a gang member.

6:51

He was never involved in any

6:53

criminal activity. He was never involved

6:55

in any criminal activity. His family

6:57

first, above all things hardworking. The

6:59

Trump administration says the men deported

7:02

were all members of a criminal

7:04

gang called Trenderagua, known as TDA.

7:06

But we reported last week on

7:08

a similar case where a Venezuelan

7:10

migrant with no known criminal record

7:12

also landed in the Secote prison.

7:14

We came to the White House

7:16

to talk to the border czar

7:18

Tom Holman to better understand why

7:20

the government says that these men

7:22

are all terrorists. I've been told

7:24

by the highest levels of ice.

7:26

The men and women of immigration

7:29

custom enforcement who built that manifest

7:31

who went to each of these

7:33

files spent hundreds and hundreds of

7:35

hours investigating each and every one

7:37

of these people that they are

7:39

in fact every one of them

7:41

member of TDA. How do you

7:43

know they are all members? Have

7:45

you seen that evidence? I have

7:47

not dilled on every file. Again

7:49

I'm trusting the men and women

7:51

who do this for a living.

7:53

Is it possible that... The administration

7:56

made a mistake by sending 238

7:58

men saying that they are TDA

8:00

members, assuring that they're all TDA

8:02

members without a scene. I'm not

8:04

wearing mistakes at all, but I

8:06

can tell you this. Not every

8:08

gang member has a criminal record.

8:10

And Lilia Luciano joins us now

8:12

from Washington. Lilia, we've been wondering

8:14

from the very beginning here, for

8:16

those with no criminal record, what's

8:18

their recourse? How do they get

8:21

out of this situation? Maries, that

8:23

is a great question. I have

8:25

asked the government of El Salvador

8:27

and they said, you have to

8:29

ask the US government. That is

8:31

why I wanted to sit with

8:33

Tom Holman. He referred me to

8:35

the court, said that's going to

8:37

be figured out in courts. I

8:39

asked, can they be brought back

8:41

to get that due process? He

8:43

said, it's up to the DOJ,

8:45

but the Department of Justice is

8:48

refusing to answer any questions about

8:50

the deportees to the very courts.

8:52

Lille Luciano, force in Washington. Thank

8:54

you. Now more of some of

8:56

the top stories from around the

8:58

world. In tonight's evening news, Roundup,

9:00

Texas is offering a plea deal

9:02

to the gunmen who killed 23

9:04

people in a 2019 attack on

9:06

Latinos at an El Paso Walmart.

9:08

It would allow Patrick Crucius, whose

9:10

26 to avoid the death penalty

9:12

is already serving life for federal

9:15

hate crimes. Russia and Ukraine have

9:17

agreed to stop attacking each other

9:19

in the Black Sea, since the

9:21

war began, Ukraine says. it has

9:23

sunk or damaged about a third

9:25

of Russia's Black Sea Fleet. Vice

9:27

President Jady Vance says he'll join

9:29

his wife on her visit to

9:31

Greenland on Friday. President Trump has

9:33

talked about taking control of Greenland

9:35

and the Prime Minister says the

9:37

high-level visits are provocation. And Senate

9:39

confirmation hearings today for the President's

9:42

nominee to head the Social Security

9:44

Administration. Frank Bizignano said he has

9:46

never discussed privatizing Social Security. A

9:48

former head of the agency shares

9:50

his concerns about the future of

9:52

that agency tonight on evening news

9:54

plus. Still ahead here on the

9:56

CBS evening news, Rob Marciano on

9:58

the record high temperatures in the

10:00

west and the threat of severe

10:02

storms in the center of the

10:04

country. have these stories. I'm Meg

10:06

Oliver, the number of college applications

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set a new record will show

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you how the intense competition is

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affecting students. That's tonight's I on

10:15

America. I'm Deborah Pater in Tel

10:17

Aviv where a doctor explains how

10:19

former hostages are learning to live

10:21

in freedom. That's next on the

10:23

CBS evening news. Hamas

10:32

is still holding 59 hostages,

10:35

though Israel believes 35 of

10:37

them are dead. Hamas yesterday

10:39

released a propaganda video. On

10:41

it, two hostages say they

10:44

are living in terrible conditions

10:46

that have only worsened since

10:48

the end of the ceasefire.

10:50

During the ceasefire, 33 hostages

10:53

or their remains were handed

10:55

over to Israel in exchange

10:57

for hundreds of Palestinian prisoners.

10:59

But as Deborah Patta reports,

11:02

freedom does not mean the

11:04

end of their ordeal. These

11:06

are the images we watch

11:08

every time a hostage is

11:11

freed. But Dr. Afri-Shapira, a

11:13

psychoanalyst counseling many of them,

11:15

is seeing something very different.

11:17

For so long, hostages held

11:19

in Gaza, feared they would

11:22

be killed in captivity. Now

11:24

many must learn to live

11:26

in freedom. It's like a

11:28

death sentence. Only you have

11:31

to keep on living. Some,

11:33

like Jardin Bibas, discovered on

11:35

his release that his wife

11:37

Sherry and two boys had

11:40

been killed. I don't think

11:42

it's a joyful freedom, completely

11:44

joyful for any of them.

11:46

She told us the deepest

11:49

trauma comes from the relationship

11:51

with the kidnapper. Both their

11:53

potential executor and the person

11:55

they had to please in

11:58

order to survive to survive.

12:00

The bad person and And

12:02

the good person gets mixed

12:04

up in a way that

12:07

you can't really, well you

12:09

can figure out. Because it's

12:11

an imbalance of power. You

12:13

need to erase whatever makes

12:16

you you. An individual with

12:18

a psych, with wishes, with

12:20

thoughts. It just becomes a

12:22

shadow of something. Some hostages

12:25

have spoken in the Israeli

12:27

media. About the terror, the

12:29

isolation, the starvation. You feel

12:31

your gut stuck to your

12:33

spine going inward and you

12:36

can't believe what's happening to

12:38

your body. But normal fear,

12:40

if zero sleep at night,

12:42

the longings are crazy. There

12:45

is also rage, Shapiro told

12:47

us. towards the Israeli government

12:49

and their military command, whom

12:51

they believed would save them.

12:54

Of course the trust has

12:56

been fractured. And why has

12:58

their trust been fractured? They

13:00

have been abandoned. Trauma is

13:03

when your basic assumptions about

13:05

the world break. But greater

13:07

than all the pain, anger

13:09

and fear. Love. I

13:12

think it's the most important thing.

13:14

I think all of them managed

13:16

to remain human. You know, they

13:18

were starved to death, but they

13:21

could still share the little food

13:23

that they got with someone else.

13:25

Love became a defense. Yeah, and

13:27

their reason to live. Deborah Pata

13:30

joined us now from Johannesburg. Deborah

13:32

coping. That had to be the

13:34

toughest thing for the hostages. In

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what other ways did they cope?

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We end with Nature taking its course.

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Another opening, another show, a new thermal

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vent has opened at Yellowstone, spewing steam

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from the volcano below. Visitors will be

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April when park roads reopen for the

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season. Also letting off steam or gas

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and dust anyway a star 625 light

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years away as it was being born

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The child star was captured by the

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chicks here double-crested cormorants were rescued from

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