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From CBS News Headquarters in
1:04
New York, this is the
1:07
CBS Evening News. Good evening,
1:09
I'm John Dickerson. I'm Maurice
1:12
Dubois. The president's borders are
1:14
has long insisted that migrants
1:16
in this country illegally are being
1:18
carefully vetted before they're deported. But
1:20
now the administration is admitting that
1:22
at least one migrant was deported
1:24
accidentally. It blames an administrative error.
1:27
An error that has the migrants
1:29
who had been living in Maryland
1:31
sitting tonight in one of the
1:33
most dangerous prisons in the world.
1:35
in his native El Salvador. A
1:37
judge has blocked his deportation there
1:39
because his life would be in
1:41
danger. The migrant's wife and five-year-old
1:43
son are US citizens. He was
1:45
on board one of those planes
1:47
filled with Venezuelan and Salvadoran migrants
1:49
deported to El Salvador last month, all
1:52
of them alleged to be criminals and
1:54
or gang members. But as we have
1:56
reported, there is reason to believe some
1:59
may not be. Nancy Cordes is
2:01
at the White House. Nancy? Good
2:03
evening. This man's family says he's
2:05
a union member, full-time sheet metal
2:07
worker supporting an American wife and
2:09
a special needs child. The White
2:11
House says he may have been
2:13
sent to prison by mistake, but
2:15
that he's dangerous and now deserves
2:18
to stay there. Ice officials now
2:20
admit this man was not supposed
2:22
to end up at the notorious
2:24
Sikkot prison in El Salvador. In
2:26
a new court filing, they say
2:28
the deportation of Kilmar, Abrego Garcia,
2:30
was an administrative error. and an
2:32
oversight. What they're saying is, yeah,
2:34
we messed up so well. Simon
2:36
Sandoval Motionberg is his lawyer. What
2:39
we're asking right now is for
2:41
the government to ask for him
2:43
back from the government of El
2:45
Salvador. Right now, Trump officials are
2:47
saying no. Vice President J. D.
2:49
Vance called Abrego Garcia a convicted
2:51
MS-13 gang member with no legal
2:53
right to be here. Is Kilmara
2:55
a gang member? He's not a
2:57
gang member. The allegations against him
2:59
are based on whispers and shadows.
3:02
What is clear is that Abrigal
3:04
Garcia fled gang violence in El
3:06
Salvador when he was 16. In
3:08
2019, an immigration judge issued a
3:10
grant of protection which prohibits him
3:12
from being deported back to his
3:14
home country for his safety. This
3:16
individual was an MS-13 ringleader. White
3:18
House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt. The
3:20
judge ordered that he should remain
3:23
in this country, so are you
3:25
saying that it is okay to
3:27
ignore a judge's ruling if you
3:29
don't like it? Who does that
3:31
judge work for? He's an immigration
3:33
judge who works for the Department
3:35
of Justice at the direction of
3:37
the Attorney General of the United
3:39
States, whose name is Pam Bondi,
3:41
who has committed to eradicating MS-13
3:44
from our nation's interior. They don't
3:46
want to ask for him back.
3:48
No, unfortunately they don't. It's appalling
3:50
to me. I've had wrongful deportation
3:52
cases before, including in the last
3:54
Trump administration. And in every single
3:56
such case, as soon as they
3:58
realize what they'd done, they bent
4:00
over backwards, they moved mountains to
4:02
get these guys back. This case
4:05
is shining new light on the
4:07
cases of other men whose families
4:09
say they were sent to Sikkot
4:11
in error. Not every gang member
4:13
has a criminal record. Our colleague,
4:15
Lilia Luciano, asked Trump's borders are
4:17
Tom Holman about the vetting that
4:19
took place before deportees were flown
4:21
to El Salvador. I've been assured
4:23
numerous times that everybody on that
4:26
plane from Venezuela was a TV
4:28
member. The rest of them were
4:30
MS-13. And Nancy, as you showed
4:32
us, the attorney, the press secretary
4:34
that is, said this is all
4:36
up to the attorney general. Is
4:38
that the way this works? Not
4:41
exactly. Immigration judges do technically report
4:43
up to the Attorney General, but
4:45
that doesn't mean that she can
4:47
simply ignore an immigration judge's ruling
4:49
that someone needs to stay in
4:51
this country. She could call for
4:53
it to be reviewed. She can
4:55
challenge it, but there is a
4:57
process for that, and it was
4:59
not followed in this case. Nancy
5:01
was not convicted, despite what the
5:03
vice president said, right? And if
5:05
so, how did he get on
5:07
the list? Well, he
5:09
wasn't originally on the list. He
5:12
was considered an alternate, but there
5:14
was a manifest with a lot
5:16
of names on it that started
5:18
dropping off for various reasons. And
5:20
so he kept moving up the
5:23
list. And there was no notation
5:25
there that he was not supposed
5:27
to be sent out of the
5:29
country, John. Ice officials are describing
5:31
this as a quote, good faith
5:34
oversight. Just a few seconds here,
5:36
Nancy. What happens next in this
5:38
case? There is a court hearing
5:40
on Friday. His lawyers want the
5:42
judge to call on the government
5:44
to ask El Salvador to send
5:47
him back, but the government's lawyers
5:49
are arguing that the judge simply
5:51
has no jurisdiction here because the
5:53
man in question is now out
5:55
of the country. Nancy Cordes at
5:58
the White House for us, thank
6:00
you, Nancy. Tomorrow at the White
6:02
House, the president will announce the
6:04
latest round of... in his war
6:06
with America's biggest trading partners. Among
6:09
them China, where manufacturers are already
6:11
looking for new customers outside the
6:13
United States. And a corn is
6:15
in Hong Kong. Along a tree-line
6:17
street outside the city of E-Woo
6:19
in eastern China, lies an industrial
6:22
area. Where businessman Jen Wang Wang
6:24
has come to inspect his factory.
6:26
This is where the 42-year-old produces
6:28
insulated water bottles and coffee cups.
6:30
with an automated assembly line that
6:33
seldom stops. Mr. Chen, they're all
6:35
machines, no working. Yeah, no use
6:37
law. But despite its efficiency, geopolitical
6:39
tensions have caused havoc. With a
6:41
quarter of his production exported to
6:44
the United States, now hit with
6:46
20% taps. Are you going to
6:48
have to increase your prices? I
6:50
can't raise my price, otherwise I
6:52
make no money, he tells me.
6:54
That's an issue for the US
6:57
clients. Among his biggest clients, Walmart.
6:59
Mr. Chen says orders have slowed
7:01
right down as US customers wait
7:03
to see how this plays out.
7:05
Who will feel the effects of
7:08
the tariffs? The clients in the
7:10
US will be affected most by
7:12
the tariffs, he says. If the
7:14
US trade war intensifies, as many
7:16
predict, then Mr Chan, like many
7:19
other business owners, says he will
7:21
just need to adapt and focus
7:23
his attention on other key markets
7:25
around the world. Europe and the
7:27
Middle East are now firmly in
7:29
his sights. In an attempt to
7:32
safeguard their business, he and his
7:34
wife recently returned from Dubai, after
7:36
meeting with potential new buyers for
7:38
their finished products. But with the
7:40
US still the biggest player, he's
7:43
hopeful that door doesn't shut forever.
7:45
Both sides will be losers in
7:47
this trade war, he tells me.
7:49
We have to sit down and
7:51
try to resolve this. Anna Koren
7:54
joins us now from Hong Kong,
7:56
so Annie gave us good insight
7:58
into how businesses are looking for
8:00
a new trading part. What are
8:02
whole countries doing? Well, Maurice, let's
8:04
take into consideration Japan and South
8:07
Korea. Two of America's strongest allies
8:09
here in Asia, if not the
8:11
world. They have not held trade
8:13
talks with China for more than
8:15
five years due to geopolitical tensions,
8:18
but that's exactly what their trade
8:20
ministers did on Sunday, meeting with
8:22
their Chinese counterpart to talk about
8:24
strengthening the supply chain, speeding up
8:26
talks on free trade agreements. They
8:29
are hedging their bets out of
8:31
necessity. One round of trade wars
8:33
with the first Trump administration? Well,
8:35
John, when the trade wars began
8:37
back in 2018, China was caught
8:39
completely off guard. This time round,
8:42
they are prepared. I'm hearing from
8:44
Chinese advisors to the government that
8:46
they are prepared for 60% tariffs.
8:48
Remember, that is what President Trump
8:50
threatened on the campaign trail. And
8:53
the message coming out of China
8:55
is that it is open for
8:57
business. Okay, at a corn tonight,
8:59
thank you. Now more of the
9:01
top stories from around the world
9:03
in tonight's evening news roundup beginning
9:06
with a show of military might
9:08
by China Beijing calls the drills
9:10
off of Taiwan a warning to
9:12
those pushing for the island's independence.
9:14
Sources tell CBS News President Trump
9:17
will consider a final proposal tomorrow.
9:19
For the sale of Tiktak Saturday
9:21
is the deadline the president gave
9:23
Tiktak's Chinese parent company to sell
9:25
its stake in the app or
9:28
Tiktak will be banned in the
9:30
United States. Attorney General Pam Bondi
9:32
has asked federal prosecutors to seek
9:34
the death penalty against 26-year-old Luigi
9:36
Mangioni. He's charged in the shooting.
9:38
death the United Health Care CEO
9:41
Brian Thompson on a New York
9:43
City street. And CBS's senior transportation
9:45
correspondent Chris Van Cleve spoke with
9:47
Senator Ted Cruz today about the
9:49
thousands of close calls involving military
9:52
aircraft. The Texas Republican asked to
9:54
see the data so he could
9:56
look into it further. Does something
9:58
need to be done to look
10:00
how the military operates inside the
10:02
United States and airspace around airports?
10:04
Look those numbers as you relay
10:06
them are certainly concerning. I haven't
10:08
seen the particular study you did
10:10
and I would say I would
10:12
very much like to see them
10:14
so I would I would love
10:17
to see the details of that
10:19
study but as you describe it
10:21
that's deeply concerning. The mass firings
10:23
of workers at federal health agencies
10:25
is underway. Termination notices went out
10:27
this morning. Thousands of jobs are
10:29
being cut within the Department of
10:31
Health and Human Services at the
10:33
Food and Drug Administration, the National
10:35
Institutes of Health, and the Centers
10:37
for Disease Control and Prevention. We
10:39
spoke today with Tom Frieden, who
10:41
headed the CDC from 2009 to
10:43
2017. Dr. Frieden, 20,000 in cuts
10:45
from Health and Human Services is
10:47
undoubtedly more than you would think
10:49
is wise. But zero cuts is
10:51
probably not the right standard either.
10:53
So where should the efficiency at
10:55
the HHS land? The administration seems
10:57
to be starting with a goal
10:59
of reducing... large numbers of staff,
11:02
but when you look at what
11:04
those staff are doing, they're protecting
11:06
Americans. This is a recipe for
11:08
disaster. It's not going to make
11:10
us healthier, it'll make us sicker,
11:12
it'll increase health care costs for
11:14
families, for communities, and for the
11:16
country. With these cuts, without these
11:18
people, what could people see in
11:20
practice in their everyday lives? an
11:22
outbreak comes to your community there
11:24
is no availability of people to
11:26
surge in and help stop it.
11:28
A disease starts anywhere in the
11:30
world and you want to hear
11:32
about it and find out from
11:34
the actual scientists and experts who
11:36
know about that disease what the
11:38
risk is to you and your
11:40
family you don't have those people
11:42
to rely on anymore. And what
11:45
about down the road Dr. Frieden?
11:47
Sometimes there are things that are
11:49
not as immediate or things that...
11:51
Once they happen, it's too late
11:53
to suddenly stand up before us
11:55
to combat it. One of the
11:57
most important things the CDC does
11:59
is to track health trends. Whatever
12:01
you think we should be doing
12:03
about them, we absolutely need to
12:05
know what's happening. I'm afraid what
12:07
we're seeing here is an approach
12:09
that's saying, let's hit a number.
12:11
That number is the number of
12:13
staff we get rid of. How
12:15
about hitting a number, the number
12:17
of people who don't get diseases
12:19
that we can prevent? Dr. Tom
12:21
Frieden, former director of the CDC.
12:23
Thank you. We asked HHS, the
12:25
CDC, the NIH, and the FDA
12:28
for an interview about the job
12:30
cuts. They either declined or did
12:32
not respond. Still ahead here on
12:34
the CBS evening news, Rob Marciano,
12:36
tracking severe weather tonight, including possible
12:38
tornadoes. And we'll have these stories.
12:40
I'm Nicole Valdez in Baltimore. It's
12:42
a city that's found a way
12:44
to decrease violence, what they're doing
12:46
to keep it that way. That's
12:48
tonight's Iron America. I'm Kelly O'Grady.
12:50
A family night out has become
12:52
more of a luxury for American
12:54
families. That's come at a price
12:56
for some of the country's best-known
12:58
restaurant chains. That's next on the
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CBS Evening News. Survivor
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17:34
For years, Baltimore was a poster
17:37
child for big city crime, but
17:39
now it's becoming the model for
17:41
a turnaround. Gun violence has fallen
17:43
more rapidly there than in any
17:46
other major U.S. city. One way
17:48
Baltimore has reduced crime is by
17:50
tapping into the expertise of people
17:52
who used to perpetrate it. Nicole
17:54
Valdez has tonight's eye on America.
18:01
What do we need? This
18:03
is Brooklyn. Not that Brooklyn.
18:05
This neighborhood is in South
18:07
Baltimore. It's where we met
18:09
Sean Weese. Weese is a
18:11
tough guy. I saw a
18:13
lot of drugs. And Brooklyn
18:15
is a tough place. My
18:17
circle was built around a
18:20
bunch of killers. The violence
18:22
hit closest to home in
18:24
2015 when his younger brother
18:26
Nadim was killed. He was
18:28
24. One of nearly 300
18:30
shooting deaths in Baltimore that
18:32
year. My soul just was
18:34
like, gone. That changed Wies.
18:36
You know what I'm saying?
18:38
Now, he's helping to change
18:40
Brooklyn. Was that the moment
18:42
that made you say enough?
18:44
That was the moment that
18:46
it made me sit down
18:48
and evaluate life. Wies joined
18:50
Safe Streets Baltimore. A city-run
18:52
anti-violence program that works to
18:54
prevent crime by hiring some
18:56
experts in the field. People
18:58
with criminal records. To do
19:01
this work, you have to
19:03
have a rapport with the
19:05
guys in the community. That's
19:07
how the program was designed
19:09
for people from the community.
19:11
We motivated every day just
19:13
because, like, we are Brooklyn.
19:15
I used to live right
19:17
here, Cooley used to live
19:19
right there. Wease and his
19:21
team patrol the streets wearing
19:23
bright orange uniforms. They walk
19:25
through hot zones, some of
19:27
the most violent areas. They
19:29
mediate conflicts and offer help
19:31
getting resources, including food or
19:33
job training. They know you
19:35
here for them for the
19:37
support. and they can pretty
19:40
much come to you about
19:42
anything. City leaders say the
19:44
approach is a big part
19:46
of why Brooklyn just went
19:48
a record 472 days without
19:50
a single homicide. Baltimore wide
19:52
gun deaths have dropped 45%
19:54
in the last six years.
19:56
Baltimore isn't alone. States have
19:58
dedicated funding for violence intervention
20:00
programs according to gun safety
20:02
advocates every town. Studies show
20:04
that programs like this in
20:06
cities including Chicago Philadelphia and
20:08
Richmond California have helped decrease
20:10
shootings and killings by more
20:12
than 30 percent. Well far
20:14
too long not just here
20:16
in Baltimore but across this
20:18
country we put the full
20:21
weight of reducing violence on
20:23
the backs of police officers
20:25
and that was wrong. Brandon
20:27
Scott is mayor of Baltimore.
20:29
There are some who would
20:31
argue you're taking a risk
20:33
on the guys that you're
20:35
hiring to do these jobs.
20:37
Why do you take that
20:39
risk? If we want to
20:41
solve and cure this disease,
20:43
we have to go to
20:45
the people who understand it
20:47
better than anybody else. So
20:49
do you think that you've
20:51
seen success in safe streets?
20:53
No. No. We've seen... Good
20:55
work in progress, but have
20:57
more work to do absolutely
21:00
Work that gives we and
21:02
others hope for Baltimore For
21:04
I on America. I'm Nicole
21:06
Valdez in Baltimore In tomorrow's
21:08
I on America as the
21:10
cost of living rises we
21:12
look at the cost of
21:14
dying a funeral can leave
21:16
a family deep in debt
21:18
Maurice and I will be
21:20
right back We
21:23
end this April 1st with a couple
21:25
of the most notorious April Fool's pranks
21:27
of all time. The last two weeks
21:29
of March on an anxious time for
21:31
the spaghetti farmer. In 1957 the BBC
21:33
aired a segment purported to show the
21:35
harvesting of spaghetti. After picking. The spaghetti
21:37
is laid out to dry. From spaghetti
21:39
trees. To the hundreds who called asking
21:42
how they too could grow pasta, the
21:44
BBC advised, place a sprig of spaghetti
21:46
into a tin of tomato sauce and
21:48
hope for the best. There's nothing like
21:50
real home grown spaghetti. In those days,
21:52
most... were black and white,
21:54
but on April Fool's Day 1962 Sweden's
21:56
TV station told viewers they
21:58
could get a
22:00
color picture by putting
22:02
a a stocking over
22:04
the screen. a A
22:07
technician explained how
22:09
the stocking would bend
22:11
would to create color.
22:13
color Many viewers tried
22:15
it. it for the
22:17
record, record It doesn't
22:19
work. That's the CBS evening News
22:21
this April I'm I'm John Dickerson. No
22:23
joke. see I'll see you soon on
22:25
Evening News Plus. I'm Maurice too well.
22:27
be back here tomorrow tomorrow in we hope.
22:29
We night. night.
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