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Today
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on Clear Your Clutter Inside
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and Out, we're talking about seniors
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and downsizing. Helping
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a senior to downsize and not sure
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what to do? What
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questions can you ask to help an older
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person make decisions more easily?
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Wondering if an estate sale is the right choice?
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Learn tips for supporting seniors
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as we begin our month focusing on downsizing.
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Does your clutter own you? On Clear
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Your Clutter Inside and Out, we'll
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teach you how to become aware of your clutter
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along with action steps to declutter
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and create the life you desire. Come
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on, let's get started. The
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entire month is inspired
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because I'm downsizing. I
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am organized as I
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hope you all know and I'm pretty decluttered,
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guys. You wouldn't
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walk into my home and open a closet door and have
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a bunch of stuff out. We
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don't have a ton of stuff. I know this because
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of my work and seeing people
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and seeing homes and this
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has been a stressful process. I
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realized that this house that I'm
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in, this is the longest I've ever lived
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anywhere. It has been a very interesting
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process so we're gonna take the entire month
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to talk about this. I think
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we're in general as a society, not everyone
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obviously, but kind of moving really
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to in that direction of less
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is more. Here
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are some special tips if you're helping an elderly
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person because remember you need a little more extra
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care for that. When my grandmother
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moved from, gosh, the house they'd been,
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my grandfather had grown up in that house. They
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had it when they're married, had all their kids, had
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the grandkids and then we had to,
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after my grandfather died, we needed to
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downsize or to
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a little ranch. That was a lot.
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we'll talk about the emotional stuff later, we're just physically. Now,
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my other grandmother had Alzheimer's and so
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it was
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a little more challenging and
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she had to downsize more rapidly
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in the sense they had to get after my grandfather
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died. She couldn't stay by
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herself. At that point, we really knew that Alzheimer's
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was going on, but going from a two-story
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home that she'd been in for 50 years into
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living with my parents and
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my aunt and switching off for a
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while and then it was really my parents before we had
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to get her in a home. But that's a huge switch
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to go from living in a two-story home to
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living in someone's house. So here are some
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thoughts and tips if you are working with a senior.
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Just some things to think about. If
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you are really short on time, perhaps
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say someone dies and you've got
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to
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move like my grandmother did,
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paperwork can be very time-consuming.
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She may need to go through that later. Then
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usually if it's a filing cabinet, that's something
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that could get moved easily. So if
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you are kind of in a hurry, table
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that for later. Frame
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decisions as yes-no questions.
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If you keep something open-ended, it can
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be stressful. They might feel like they're
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put on the spot. I know if you ask me an open-ended
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question, goodness, I don't know how long I'll go
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on for. So
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you might not want to say, what
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clothes would you like to keep? If
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you're looking at wardrobe, for example, in dresses,
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pare down the options and
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present something that's easy for them to say yes-no
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to.
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So for example,
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how about we keep your
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best church dress every
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day
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and special occasion? Do you agree? Then
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they can say yes or no.
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You have made it a lot more
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manageable for them. So again, not
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the open-ended questions,
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just a yes-no.
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I'll talk about it on a later episode.
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I was surprised at the emotions
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that came up for me as we're
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getting ready to move.
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So we want to make this process
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as stress-free as possible.
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Do as much pre-sorting as
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you can as possible. Now I just, for instance,
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mentioned dresses a
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while ago. So I would have a pre-sort category
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of every day, what you'd wear
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to church, special occasion there.
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And then you could say, okay,
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do you agree of these categories? And you can say, how
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about we do, let's
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pick two. Do you agree to pick two dresses?
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Okay, boom. Again, that's yes, no. Now we have
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everything pre-sorted
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and it makes the process one easier, but
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it also can go by more quickly. Cause
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if any of you listening have done
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decluttering and organizing, it's not what we
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see on TV. It takes a long time. So
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think of what you can pre-sort. Clothing,
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kitchen items, tools,
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anything else
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that you know you have way more of
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than space. So if you're moving
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into a senior facility, it might be
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a one or two bedroom as
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opposed to a huge
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house.
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Let go of multiples. Again, this is going
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to make it easier if you have five sets of
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sheets, keep two, three.
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Don't allow for maybes. And this is good advice
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for anyone
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because
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when you allow for maybe you're really taking
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away the decision
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and that maybe kind of keeps it in the gray
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area
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and you risk becoming more attached
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to the items. Moving
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takes time. I'm telling
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you, we don't have a
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lot of clutter. We've put on a garage
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sale. I'm organized
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and this is a time you want those skills.
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It has taken us a lot of time or
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what feels like a lot of time to me and
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it's stressful. You know, you've
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got it, you're showing your house. You've got to keep it clean.
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clean all the time, that's enough to drive anyone
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in saying. So don't know
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decisions for later. I'm gonna encourage you to have
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them make the decisions now. The
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only thing that I think is okay to set
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aside for later is if you are
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going to give it away to someone, like a relative,
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hold for Susie to pick up.
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And if you do allow that, you give them a time
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frame. Okay, Susie, it's gotta be picked up within
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the week. And if not, I'm gonna donate it.
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When we box things, they become out of sight,
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out of mind. And we really encourage you, especially
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for seniors or yourself,
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don't think, we can store.
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We have a storage to
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declutter the house.
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We rent it, I think a 10 by 10 unit.
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Like for instance, we had to get rid of the cat trees.
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It's like, okay, we have cats, that's not
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gonna change. Although it's, good news
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is we put out candles and people have been like, okay,
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we can't smell the cat. So that's a good news. But we had
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to get out all our cat scratchers and come on, I'm
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crazy for cats. So we've allowed
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one cat tree to stay in
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public, away from the window.
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We have other little short scratchy
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that we move into the
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garage every time someone comes to look at the house,
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it's a very exhausting process.
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So I'm gonna encourage you not to get in the habit
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of getting a rental unit. If something
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like you're gonna sell the house and you needed to clutter it,
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that's fine. But once you're settled
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in, we're not gonna keep
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the storage unit. And we got a deal and
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it's still costing us 74 a
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month, I think. We had to run
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it for a couple months. Again, that's a massage
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right there. So don't get into the mentality
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of maybe and then we can put it in storage and make
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a decision later, no,
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and encourage you.
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It'll take longer,
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but to have the senior be decisive.
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Put the time and the energy and the focus on
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most used items. What is it
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if they love to cook,
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then you wanna make sure that you have those items
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that's going to allow them to cook in the kitchen.
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That's where they're joy and their passion.
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is
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focus on that or if they are an artist
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make sure that they have all their rights supplies
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and what are they going to be doing the most
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of.
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Just had a conversation with someone this morning her
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mom
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is a gardener and so they got
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her in a senior facility but
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where she could garden.
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So one of the things that she held on to are
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her gardening tools.
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Be patient okay this is really important
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and father the lead of the senior. You
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know they might have to take a
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trip down memory lane
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and if you're asking them to make a hard
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choice
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ask some questions where came
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from what is the
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story behind it you know when you
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tell that story and express that
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sometimes it makes
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it easier to release something
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and allow
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them that
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allow yourself that if you ever need
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to do that one downsizing.
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Talking about it may help
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them have a clear perspective
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and allow them to be more ready to release
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it. Oh you know what now that I've told you
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that story
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about where that came from that's
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something I don't need to hold on to I have
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Joe
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Joe's necklace that he gave me and that means
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a lot more than this book from
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when we went traveling.
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You also are going to have
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to usually pare down because of space
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if you have photos or
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memorabilia or collections
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you hopefully will have an idea of your
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floor plan and where you're moving although
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I have to say
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this is a caveat we
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know where we're moving we have a floor
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plan and
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we're doing two rounds of downsizing
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what I said to my husband was I
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haven't quite and I'm very visual
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so I need to see I
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haven't quite figured out out
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where we're
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going to place furniture. So what I said is let's
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just get everything and then we can sell furniture once
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we settle. To me, that's worth it
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seeing everything and having a place
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in mind. Now again, with most seniors,
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you're going to be moving to a couple rooms.
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I know I helped my Aunt Maple. She went
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You're going to want to think about the space because
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say if you have photographs in
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two rooms, you can definitely fill out
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the walls but you're probably not going to have that much space.
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So that's where you're going to
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want to do some tearing down, ask
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what are your favorite pieces and think,
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oh, you know, we
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could put this
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right above the fireplace if you have one
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or right above your bed, wherever that makes the most
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sense to you. But collections and
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the like, you're going to need to prioritize.
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One thing that you can do, and we did this for
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my great Aunt Maple,
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was we digitized photos. And so
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we got her one of those frames
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and that
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you can set it on a timer but it flips
11:54
every so often. And so she had this wonderful
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digitized frame. where
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we were able to put a bunch of photos and that
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we were able to let other stuff.
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So think about how you can do
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that and maybe with their artwork same thing take
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the picture if they have a lot of artwork they love
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and
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you want to sell it, donate
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it, whatever you want to do,
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take pictures and then something like a digital frame
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can help with that.
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I'm also going to encourage you and
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I hope I can say this in a way that it's
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heard correctly.
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One of the things is that
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I believe
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you should never hit something
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without someone asking. We had a situation
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someone that I'm related to and I'm like,
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did you not pay attention that I've been in business
12:44
for a decade and they didn't
12:46
ask for my help and this is someone and
12:48
they went in and threw out a bunch of things and it was
12:50
very traumatic for the person
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and I
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don't believe that. Now having said this, this
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is kind of the and part of life.
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I believe this and
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I'm also going to encourage you where there
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are areas that you can go ahead and make decisions
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that this stuff is not worth moving or
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donating
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because remember if you donate to someone
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and they can't use it
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like we didn't realize this we just took a load to Habitat
13:14
for Humanity some good flooring and
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we had some blinds and
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they said he said oh we'll take it but
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I'm hoping they can find a house to use it on but
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things that it's not worth it for you to donate.
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Old spices, recycle
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those magazines,
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expired meds, make sure you dispose
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of those properly,
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donate unused toiletries, you
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probably have a bunch of plastic food containers,
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the junk drawer,
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do stuff like that where they really don't need
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to be involved in the decision and that's you
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can declutter it
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and it's less time that you have to spend
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going through stuff. No, I would make it easier
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I'd say to the neighbors hey I'd pull
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out all the cleaning items the majority of them,
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personal care product, like all of that that they're not going to be able to do. going
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to need and just have the neighbors
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come and get it. That's an easy solution and
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it helps everyone. You don't have to throw it out.
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Now you're going to... another place you're going to want to
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put the effort in. Do you want to sell, donate,
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give away? Is it so worn
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that it's just trash? That
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can be time consuming. So
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consider an estate sale.
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And we'll talk about that momentarily because the only other
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thing I wanted to add is free cycle
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is an option where we put
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some flooring on free cycle, it's free. Come and pick
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it up.
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That's one less thing you need to
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think about.
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Schools are great. Say if you have musical instruments,
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right? So maybe you had
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a relative, a senior that was really talented and
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maybe they're taking one guitar, but they can let the other
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stuff go. School programs could definitely
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use that. So
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what to consider
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if you're thinking about an estate sale.
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They can be really
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good if
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you have a ton of stuff you're letting go
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of. You know, you're ready like, Oh,
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you know, I know I want to part with this. I don't have
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to spend a lot of time making decisions. The
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worst case scenario with this is you don't qualify.
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You know, depending on the company or what people are doing,
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there's
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probably a minimum of items.
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The advantages to
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the estate
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sale, you
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get cash
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and your home gets cleared out. So
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let me tell you something. It's in, if you've got
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to change carpets or whatever, it's fantastic.
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So you're going to get cash and it's going
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to be a clutter free home.
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What you mainly have to do is just say,
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okay, this is what needs to be sold. So you might
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obviously, what is a senior taking?
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Maybe there are things that need to go to family and friends,
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but that's kind of the extent of this.
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So how much does it cost? Right? There
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should be no upfront
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cost involved. And
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guys, please
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do your due diligence.
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And I've learned just because someone is
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approved by the BBB doesn't mean Jack
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because I had to file
16:06
a complaint against someone and once it was settled,
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they were removed. And I thought, well,
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they need to know. It was actually an acupuncturist
16:13
who... Anyway,
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I had to file a BBB complaint and I
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got my money back.
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But that just doesn't necessarily mean anything.
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But people especially try to scam
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seniors. I've worked with clients. I can't tell
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you how many
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things I've had to help a cancel because
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they were taken advantage of.
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So if they're saying there's an upfront cost,
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go elsewhere.
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They get their payment because they're going to take a percentage, right?
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Estate sale. Here are some examples of situations
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where it might be a good idea for you to have an estate sale.
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You're downsizing. Downsizing from a house to say
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a condo, an RV, a
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small apartment.
16:54
You might be handling an estate from a deceased
16:56
loved one, especially if you're out of state. An
16:59
estate sale is probably going to make good sense for
17:01
you because you can come, make some decisions.
17:04
They can take care of that. And
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again, you get the house cleaned out, you get some cash.
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Good deal.
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Transitioning into senior living like
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my grandmother. If you're going from a two-story house
17:15
into someone's house,
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you're probably going to have a lot of stuff that you can
17:20
sell.
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If you have more than two weeks, you don't have to have
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a quick
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get it done, get it done, get it done, and you have
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the time, estate
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sale might be a good option.
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If you're not eligible for tax deduction,
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so the stuff, I don't know why
17:37
we... I'm never going to stop donating. We have this
17:39
great little charity that
17:41
spays and neuters
17:43
homeless animals and
17:46
we love it. It's one that I love to support. And
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I'm like, yeah, we can fill out the slip, but
17:50
we do our taxes and it's kind of pointless.
17:53
So if you're not going to be able to get a tax discount,
17:55
then you might want to consider
17:58
it. So
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here's an example, like, well, how does an estate sale work?
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Say that you're
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having an estate sale and you make $10,000.
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The company is going to take 35% of that. So
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you get $6,500 and
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they are going to charge you clean out costs. So they take 35%,
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maybe if someone come in and clean or something,
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maybe $500. So you're left with $6,500, $6,000 in profit.
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That's kind of easy. If someone take care and do
18:26
the legwork, to me that's personally worth 35%. Again,
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you have to figure that out.
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Now there's another option
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that might be useful for seniors if you don't qualify
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or can't have an estate sale. Same
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day cash buyout. That
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is usually a good choice for you. You have a decent amount of stuff
18:46
and what they're doing
18:49
is, all right, you have bulk items
18:51
and they figure they pay you X
18:53
amount and that they can make money reselling.
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This is a good option if you don't have enough
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for an estate sale
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or maybe you live in an HOA community.
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So, but maybe the HOA doesn't allow for an estate
19:04
sale. You just have to
19:06
know that then something like a same day
19:08
cash buyout is going to be really great.
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So what you have to do is gather
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all the stuff,
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what you're willing to sell and
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you need to make the decision, am I getting a fair
19:18
amount? Now again, you need to take into consideration
19:20
that they are taking
19:23
out and moving items from your home
19:25
and they need to make something.
19:27
I once had a client call me and
19:29
the was a local haul junk
19:31
guy and he said, I can't, it's all junk.
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He said, I lose money if I haul it off. He said, if
19:36
I can sell stuff, I'm willing to do it for free.
19:38
So you have to just take that into consideration. So
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again, no upfront costs to you.
19:45
You have to be prepared. It's like
19:47
doing a garage sale. You're never going to get anywhere
19:49
near what you think it's worth.
19:51
So again, if they have to remove store, blah, blah,
19:53
blah, blah, blah, blah,
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that's what you okay. Like am I getting
19:57
a fair price?
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A same day buyout might be a good deal if
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you have a collection you no longer
20:05
want to keep. Maybe you collected
20:08
humbles. You have a tight guideline like, oh my gosh,
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we have two weeks less, we've got a week, we've
20:13
got to get this stuff cleared out.
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If
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you have a handful of valuables that you're ready
20:18
to roll, and again, there are different levels
20:21
of these same cash buyout,
20:23
but for someone that might be an option.
20:25
Maybe you have a few pieces of furniture.
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Again, not eligible for a tax donation,
20:30
it might be worth it.
20:32
If your house is really just
20:34
disgusting and they exist, trust
20:37
me. If your house is really in bad condition, probably
20:40
not worth it to have an estate sale. Let's
20:43
use the same math, because
20:44
I'm not a great math person, say the value
20:47
of all the stuff I have sitting here is worth $10,000.
20:50
The buyout offer is $5,000. You
20:52
just made $5,000 and you get it cleared out
20:54
of your house.
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You also have another option, donate it all.
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Or giving it away to everyone
21:02
that you love. Or someone, college
21:05
hunks moving junk that'll come up,
21:07
sell what they can.
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I know there's a guy around here,
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he makes sure if it's recycled, it can
21:13
be recycled, or if it can donate or can sell it.
21:16
That's another option. You don't get any money on it, but
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you're not trashing Mother Earth and again,
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it's out of your house. Really,
21:23
is it money that you need, peace of mind?
21:25
Those are the things that you really need
21:27
to consider. Again, having
21:29
a grandmother who had Alzheimer's, depending
21:32
on the situation, those are things that you need
21:34
to think through. Take
21:37
action from today's podcast. Create
21:41
a list of tips for seniors
21:43
that you
21:44
believe would be helpful.
21:48
Write down any other considerations
21:50
you or your senior may have.
21:55
Be patient.
21:59
whether or not an estate sale
22:02
or a buyout is an option. Consider
22:07
donating,
22:08
calling off,
22:10
or giving away items to loved ones.
22:14
On next month's episode, we're
22:16
talking about moving tips.
22:20
Go out, clear your clutter
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to create the life you choose, deserve,
22:25
and desire. Clear
22:28
your clutter allows you to share your gifts
22:30
with the world. Get your free
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22:35
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