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What's up everyone? Welcome back to another week

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of clickbait. Like always, we have the Bachelor

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Nation breakdown. And we also

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have Michelle's season about to premiere.

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And for Michelle's season, we decided to bring Tia

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onto clickbait. Tia, what's up? How you

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doing?

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Hello. Thanks for having me

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guys. Honey, this is clickbait in paradise.

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It really is. Never had a podcast

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before and now we're doing back to back. So

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are you excited to be here? I'm excited.

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I am. I've never listened to an episode,

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but. Well, that's a really shitty

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way to start this, but okay. Somebody,

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look, Tia, where you at girl? Come back. Unbelievable.

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I never listen to my own either. No, but

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we're going to have a lot of fun. So I'm happy

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you're here. We are going to give you Bachelor

0:47

Nation breakdown, clickbait of the week,

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and then our guest, my very

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own fiance, Serena

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Pitt. And I'm excited to interview her. So

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let's get into this first Bachelor

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Nation breakdown.

1:00

Tyler Cameron makes a cameo on

1:03

SNL Saturday Night Live. You guys

1:05

watch it? How did he get that?

1:07

I watched the clip. Right. How

1:09

did he get that? I want to know. I want

1:11

to know why I wasn't there as the Bachelorette. Sorry,

1:14

Kim. Yeah,

1:16

if you guys if you guys didn't see it, Kim Kardashian

1:18

played the Bachelorette. And

1:21

then there was John Cena, Chris

1:23

Rock. And

1:26

my celebrity crush, which is. Jesse

1:30

Williams, which I've said

1:32

a thousand times. Listen,

1:34

listen, wait, is Jesse Williams from Grey's Anatomy?

1:37

Yes. He's beautiful. Dr.

1:39

Avery. Beautiful.

1:40

Yes. I

1:43

was like 10 years old watching him being like,

1:46

one day, one day I'm gonna meet him. Listen,

1:49

listeners, I need y'all to do me a solid. Just

1:52

go slide in his DMs and be like Natasha from the Bachelor.

1:55

Is he married? No, he's not married. He's single.

1:58

Come on.

1:58

I'm not that type of woman. were if you

2:00

if this will be good if either of

2:02

you were Kim Kardashian as

2:06

the bachelorette on SNL who would you have chosen

2:08

out of that group oh honey I would have

2:10

picked I would have done a Dale real I would have did it I would

2:13

did a Claire crawly real quick and been

2:15

like yo Jesse we out let's go

2:20

even on there people

2:21

may not like Chris

2:23

Roth Oh Blake Griffin Blake

2:26

Griffin love a tall guy

2:29

so that's who you know I too but

2:32

neither of you would have picked Tyler Cameron our very

2:34

own no no

2:36

okay Tyler Cameron

2:39

good for him he was on SNL that was very

2:42

that was very cool to watch

2:44

Kim Kardashian the whole thing so good for him

2:47

all

2:47

right wait wait wait he says see

2:49

you in the hot tub and I loved that I

2:52

loved that he gets his token

2:55

for being a token man and

2:57

then says see you in the hot tub good for him so

2:59

I'll sell on brand for our bachelor nation

3:01

peeps Kim in like

3:04

a bedazzled Sherry Hill dress is just

3:06

bizarre it's not normal

3:09

that wasn't yeah it was weird I actually know like

3:11

so like seeing her figure in a

3:13

dress that like normal people would wear

3:15

to prom or like on

3:17

the bachelor is very bizarre because it wasn't a head-to-toe

3:20

like black ninja outfit what

3:23

it's actually very true

3:25

interesting seeing her figure like

3:27

in a dress that she wouldn't normally yeah

3:30

wouldn't normally wear yeah would you

3:32

guys did you guys like her monologue

3:35

yeah your name yeah I thought it was

3:37

I thought it was cool I didn't

3:39

even watch that part yeah I didn't really watch it oh

3:41

you gotta watch you gotta watch that part okay moving

3:43

on

3:51

moving on to our next

3:53

breakdown we have first ever bachelor in

3:55

Paradise Canada has begun and

3:58

we got some familiar faces

3:59

We were at our first season of Paradise.

4:03

Kevin went, who's the bartender, was on our season.

4:06

Freakin love Kevin. Camille,

4:09

who I believe at the reunion,

4:11

you told them to fuck off. Yeah.

4:14

Yeah. OK, I didn't know who this person

4:16

was. Who? He's the one that fucked with

4:18

Annalise. Yeah. Like broke up

4:20

with her on the reunion show

4:23

and just embarrassed the shit out of her. OK,

4:26

so yeah, so you hear this. The listeners

4:28

need a recap, too. Camille

4:30

is just a tool. I'm like, why is he

4:32

so on these shows?

4:33

We have Angela. She was

4:35

also on our season. She was on. She

4:39

was on Nick Vial season of The Bachelor.

4:42

We have the Brendan, who's a Canadian

4:44

from Katie season

4:46

and Caitlin from

4:48

Colton season. Alina

4:51

from Matt James's season. Alina

4:55

and Alex, Iliana, Iliana.

4:57

Yeah, yeah, probably saying that wrong. And Alex

5:01

from Rachel Lindsay's season. OK,

5:03

that guy's done. He's

5:05

done a few shows, too, right? I think

5:07

so. OK, so let's talk about this. He's handsome.

5:10

He's done like B.I.P. Australia

5:12

or something like very handsome. He

5:14

dated Caroline on one of the other

5:17

paradise shows in another country.

5:19

So how do we feel about

5:21

Bachelor in Paradise in other countries? Like

5:24

because now we've all done. We've all I mean,

5:26

Tia, you and I have done Bachelor of Paradise. You

5:29

United States of America twice. Natasha,

5:31

you have done it once. Would

5:35

you ever go on one of these

5:37

like Canada, Australia? Or

5:40

no. OK, so Australia.

5:45

And because I've dated a few Aussies,

5:48

they film it like in a cool location, too.

5:50

I don't think it's even in Australia. When Caroline

5:52

did it, she was in some beautiful exotic

5:54

location.

5:55

But are the people are is

5:57

there a bunch of like American people and.

5:59

or people from all over, right?

6:01

Well, clearly, I mean, clearly the Canadian

6:03

one is you have people from Canada and you

6:05

have people from America.

6:07

So

6:07

it's like some of it is like fans. Half

6:10

of them were just fans of the show and not old

6:12

contestants. Oh, really? I'm

6:15

pretty sure. Oh, interesting.

6:18

Yeah. Oh yeah. So it said some

6:20

of them are just fans, a mix of 12 Canadian

6:23

US bachelor lump faves along with 14 Canadian

6:26

bachelor nation fans.

6:28

Well, so that's when I read

6:30

that, but when I read that, I literally, that

6:32

did not registered that like that

6:35

were on the show. It's

6:38

bachelor nation lump. Okay.

6:40

Gotcha. Fans. Yeah. Gotcha.

6:42

I literally didn't, I thought that every single

6:45

person, um, I thought

6:48

that every single person on

6:50

these shows were

6:52

a lot. Okay. So let's, okay. So

6:54

we, we can't just let that slide.

6:57

Let's talk about that. I mean, what if there

6:59

was, what if they put fans on bachelor

7:01

paradise,

7:02

our bachelor paradise, you know how crazy that would

7:04

be? Yeah. But it's like, at

7:07

some point, I feel like a lot of people lie

7:10

about not watching the show beforehand. And it was like, a lot

7:12

of people are friends fans before they go on

7:14

the show. Right.

7:15

Okay. But you don't have the experience

7:18

known at that point. It's like, what if

7:20

a fan is just like into you because they're

7:22

a fan and not actually into you that that

7:25

that's kind of bizarre. Yeah. But then

7:27

I think they would have to make

7:29

that decision once they meet you. Like I

7:32

thought I was into this person, but maybe I'm not

7:34

now. Now I'm into, um, Aaron.

7:37

True. You know, I think it'll be really

7:39

hard for the guys because there's so many women

7:42

that watch the show. You don't know how many people be

7:44

coming up to me talking about Joe. I'm like, y'all can

7:46

engage now. Leave me alone. Leave me alone. Everybody

7:49

I talked to talks to me about Joe.

7:51

They're like, Joe, people,

7:53

my, my mom, my mom's friends.

7:55

I'm like, you appeal to every

7:58

generation. Yeah.

7:59

You know, I you know, I don't

8:01

you know, that's dated a fan.

8:04

I mean, pre Serena, we know

8:06

that. Yeah, I don't wouldn't even consider

8:08

fans. You know,

8:10

I would I mean, some I would I have dated

8:13

somebody that never had participated

8:16

in the show before.

8:19

I mean, if I met him and liked him, sure, I think it's

8:22

I think it's like Matt James, for instance,

8:24

he was never on the show. He just

8:26

was the bachelor. I think that's a

8:28

very difficult transition. Oh,

8:31

now that's a good question. Was Matt James

8:34

a fan or was he just Tyler's bestie?

8:37

I think he was just Tyler's bestie. Yeah.

8:39

And then you can tell on his season that he wasn't

8:42

used to being on camera

8:44

and doing interviews. I feel like he was nervous for a

8:46

while. Yeah. Yeah. Because he wasn't. I

8:48

will say that I will say that, you know,

8:50

we had Marissa on the podcast last

8:52

week and we were talking and Marissa,

8:57

she went home night one. And

8:59

when we there was a moment where we had to I had

9:01

to pull her aside and be like, Marissa, it's OK.

9:04

She thought like all these things in her head

9:06

because she just hadn't went through a full season. And

9:09

I don't know if Joe, when you first.

9:10

Yeah, I can attest to that. I remember.

9:12

So I remember our season of Paradise

9:14

and just like that first day

9:17

feeling really

9:19

lost because then you're down there with everybody

9:21

that has experience and knows what they're doing.

9:24

And you just

9:25

I just felt really, really lost.

9:27

It took me I would say three or four

9:29

days before I was like, OK, I, I

9:32

belong. Yeah. Right. Right. Kind

9:35

of know what I'm doing now. Right.

9:37

Yeah. I think she was waiting for like cues

9:39

like she was waiting like, you know, we would

9:41

all be sitting in a group setting. She'd be like,

9:43

I really got a fee. And I'm like, OK, yeah.

9:47

She's like, is it OK? I'm like, it's OK. Trust

9:49

me. Just go. You know what I mean? So it's stuff

9:52

like that where she wasn't really comfortable.

9:54

And so I think for a fan, bringing it back

9:56

to that, I think for a fan, like not

9:58

knowing. And then, of course, having. other people there

10:00

that is knowing, I think, ooh, I think Mr. Bartender

10:03

Kevin gonna have his hands full. Oh, for

10:05

sure. Yeah, because it's that whole crew of people that

10:08

aren't used to it. I think it's gonna be great. I think it's gonna

10:10

be great. So we gonna see how it goes. I think,

10:12

you know, the franchise people have been dying

10:14

for the franchise to shake things up. So

10:17

this is definitely shaking

10:18

it up. This is definitely shaking it up. And for our listeners,

10:20

who knows? You never know. Maybe it goes really

10:22

well and they want to bring a fan on to

10:26

Bachelor in Paradise US and it could be you. So

10:29

DM us, let us know what you think. You

10:31

never know. You could be on the next

10:33

season of Bachelor in Paradise. They're

10:35

all attractive too. Can I also

10:38

talk about the fact really quick that

10:40

they're trying this over there and if it

10:43

goes well, then they might do it here.

10:45

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Why not? Yeah,

10:50

you never know. Okay. Um, our

10:52

last bachelor nation breakdown, we

10:54

have the bachelorette season 18 premieres on

10:57

Tuesday, Michelle season.

11:00

How do you guys feel about it? What are your plans? What

11:03

are we doing? I love Michelle. I think she's

11:05

so great.

11:06

Um, I saw this clip

11:08

of her kissing a very

11:11

tall gentleman,

11:13

um, Nate from her season

11:15

and it was like just a montage of them just

11:18

going at it. Okay.

11:21

So what are you saying to us right now? I

11:23

shared, um, yeah,

11:26

it was, it was, it was, uh,

11:29

it's steamy. The season looks like it's going to be real

11:31

steamy. I accidentally saw a spoiler and I'm pissed.

11:34

I like just going into it blind

11:36

just so I can make my own judgments. Yeah.

11:40

I never understood spoilers.

11:43

Like even when, like, like

11:46

when Netflix comes out with the show, you

11:48

know, they released the whole show. I don't go

11:50

to the last episode to see what happened

11:52

and then rewatch the show. I want to see it happen

11:55

live. Like I want to be surprised.

11:58

Um, but

11:59

anyway, so yeah. Um, Michelle,

12:02

Michelle season. So she's making out

12:04

with this guy, Nate. Um, we see

12:06

the one guy shows up. It looks like the first

12:09

day shows up with like notebooks. Um,

12:12

yeah,

12:13

there's a little no pants, no pants.

12:16

Yeah. But I think it's going to be, I can't

12:19

wait to watch it. I think it's going to be a lot of, uh,

12:22

a lot of fun. Looks like the guys are fighting

12:24

already. Um, drama. I'm

12:27

so excited for her. And also there was also

12:29

a clip that I saw where she was like dancing or something

12:31

and she just seems so, um,

12:35

she really does seem so just

12:38

like in her element or just natural.

12:40

Yeah. And I think

12:42

that from watching, um,

12:45

from watching like Matt

12:48

James's season, then we were talking about the whole fan thing

12:50

and going back and forth from that.

12:53

You could tell he was so uncomfortable

12:55

in so many parts. And I think

12:57

that maybe having that experience with

12:59

him, she's like, I'm gonna make these guys feel real

13:02

comfortable. Like, do you know what

13:04

I mean? And, um, I'm really excited about

13:06

that.

13:06

What would be, so both of you

13:09

are, as far as I know are single. I don't know

13:11

if you're not anymore, but let's just say you

13:13

are. Rub it in, Joe. Uh, what would be, um,

13:17

what would be, I guess what

13:19

would be your biggest fair, uh, night

13:21

one being the bachelorette, like being in Michelle's

13:24

position just for not the whole season, just

13:26

like that day

13:29

because they will freak the shit out of me. Yeah. Sending

13:32

someone home night one that,

13:36

um, like I can be very comfortable

13:38

in a normal conversation with someone very

13:41

early on. Cause I'm just, I'm not

13:43

a nervous person like that.

13:45

Sending someone home who was like

13:48

clearly wasn't being themselves because

13:51

it was, they're just like culture shocked to

13:53

everything that was going on. Um, that

13:55

I could have potentially had like a really good connection

13:57

with.

13:58

Yeah. That's, and that, that's actually. exactly what happened

14:00

to me on Becca season. So

14:03

shame on her. So you trying to say that Becca shouldn't send you

14:05

home? Yeah, I mean,

14:08

no, I mean, it worked out great. It worked out great for both of

14:10

us. So how about you, Tia? Yeah. Mine's

14:13

way more simple than that. Mine would

14:15

be just the nerves of not remembering

14:18

everyone. So I don't really pay attention to

14:20

the conversations. And I'm like, well, shit, I'm not into anyone.

14:23

Because I just was so overwhelmed.

14:26

Yeah. Yeah. I think

14:28

mine would probably be, yeah,

14:36

I would probably go with Tia just being like

14:38

so just too overwhelmed

14:41

and not really like soaking

14:43

it in. Yeah, and not really like

14:46

being present for certain conversations

14:48

that could have went great. And you have to hold in so many different

14:50

directions too. Yeah. Yeah,

14:53

I mean, this is so good that we're talking about

14:56

this because our clickbait is about being mindful

14:58

and about being present and all those

15:00

different things. And yeah, I don't have

15:03

that problem, y'all. I'm sorry. I don't.

15:04

OK. So I

15:06

try to be very present with people that

15:09

I talk to, no matter who they are. You are good

15:11

at that. But it's a practice, right?

15:13

Like it's a literal practice. It's something

15:15

that I practice. So

15:18

that part I'm not worried about, but other

15:21

things, I think. But the nerves, I think,

15:24

is just real for anyone on the first day.

15:26

The thought that you will literally could potentially

15:28

be meeting your future husband on this first day.

15:32

Yeah. Terrified. That's so. It's

15:34

pretty intense. The whole thing's intense. But we know that because

15:36

the show's intense. And we've done it multiple

15:39

times now. Let's

15:41

talk about, let's get into the clickbait. Because

15:44

as soon as I read the article, I'm like, this is all Natasha.

15:46

So let's go. I'm Ian, honey.

15:48

Kick it off. You should write it written by Natasha. Hold

15:50

on. I think you did. I think you did

15:53

write it. Yeah.

16:01

So the title of the clickbait is using

16:04

mindfulness to build a stronger, healthier

16:06

relationship as a couple.

16:10

So I am going to say that

16:13

this article was really great and I do love when

16:15

we can do

16:16

talk about things that of course I'm into

16:19

like mindfulness. And

16:21

it's I want to

16:23

tell our listeners mindfulness comes

16:25

if you can implement it in every part

16:27

of your life in every relationship

16:29

in your life and even most importantly

16:31

the relationship with yourself

16:33

and being intentional about what

16:36

we're doing and how we're doing

16:38

it. So saying all

16:40

that to say

16:42

something that stuck out to me in this article

16:45

was when they talked about a fair fight

16:48

how mindfulness can help a fair

16:50

fight. I think that

16:54

when I used

16:56

to work for Dr. Phil and he used to

16:58

always say do you want to be happy or do you want to be right?

17:01

And that is

17:03

so true because there's room for both

17:05

of us to be right and validated in our feelings

17:07

in a relationship. In any relationship.

17:10

Do you want to be happy or do you want to be right? Dr. Phil I'm

17:12

telling you. I'm telling

17:14

you. The wise words of Dr. Phil.

17:18

Okay first let's start at the beginning.

17:21

Could you dumb down mindfulness

17:23

for me because when I hear it I'm like mindfulness.

17:27

I'm paying attention more.

17:28

Yes yes yes okay I love this Joe.

17:31

So basically what mindfulness is

17:33

from my Natasha Parker definition is

17:37

doing things with intention.

17:40

Being mindful about things because we

17:43

are our brains are on an auto tune right.

17:45

We wake up in the morning we get out we sleep

17:47

in the same bed we sleep in the same spot of the bed we

17:49

shower the same we wash the left side first and the

17:51

right side we do it like we're like on auto right.

17:54

And when you're mindful about something

17:57

it is actually thinking about

17:59

what you're doing. I'm actually thinking about

18:01

what I want to say to you right now and instead

18:04

of just Because

18:06

that's how we are and we're so

18:09

reactionary We're taught even as

18:11

humans to be reactionary someone

18:13

text you you got to text them right back Someone says

18:15

this you got to have an answer right now.

18:17

No, you don't

18:18

when you're mindful You can take time

18:21

to be like, you know what? I'm gonna let this marinate

18:23

for

18:23

a second. See I do that I do that a lot especially

18:25

with texting. I'm like somebody text me. I got to text him back

18:27

right away.

18:28

Yes And I do this especially

18:30

when like imagine if someone texts

18:33

you like a long thing like hey

18:35

Joe When this happened, I really

18:37

felt like blah blah blah blah blah blah blah It's like you

18:40

should really take time to think about

18:42

what this person said How are you gonna validate

18:44

their feelings and then also say how

18:46

you feel that well, I guess

18:48

when they send me a longer text message I

18:51

I I give it more thought but if it's like you

18:53

want to go eat I pretty much give them a yes

18:55

or no right away. Well, that's different

18:58

Well, that's that deserves it. I mean if you wait

19:00

an hour, it's like we're tired already already

19:03

Yeah, no, not that but

19:05

when your mind like for instance, um

19:08

I'll give you both in our listeners a mindful

19:10

exercise to do

19:12

when next time you brush your teeth

19:14

Don't have anything else around don't have anything

19:16

close your eyes and literally feel the

19:19

brushes on like the brush

19:21

on your teeth I like told me to do

19:23

this

19:24

like that's being present dishes away

19:26

She's like when you're putting dishes away think about picking

19:28

up the dish and placing it in the cabinet

19:31

So I was like, I don't know how to sit and meditate and be quiet

19:33

She's like we'll do like these small things

19:35

and just be present in that

19:37

and those are mindfulness tips exactly and

19:39

so the same thing with like for instance Joe

19:42

you're now in a relationship and back to the

19:44

the clickbait a

19:45

Mindful thing that really that people

19:48

should do in relationships Like, you know how let's

19:50

say you're going to sleep and you always like kiss good night,

19:52

right? Like well, like, you know, if

19:54

you don't even think about it because it's just something

19:56

that you just do all the time, right? It's

19:59

like hat

19:59

an intentional kiss. We

20:02

have to look wait till Serena get on here. Okay,

20:05

I know. Like, I'm definitely

20:07

sexy.

20:08

Okay, so I'm definitely not gonna do

20:10

the brushing the teeth thing. But I

20:14

think of something I'll think of something that's good for your life. Okay,

20:17

no, but I get I get this. And so

20:19

I went to when I was in LA, I went to like this

20:23

show that Elton john was putting on. And

20:26

he came out and said, like, I'm, you

20:28

know, I'm pretty much just like everyone else. But

20:31

what you know, because I've done everything, and I have

20:34

everything, what I truly enjoy is

20:36

doing the laundry and taking my time and the

20:38

little things and just being

20:41

present and doing that in the moment, which

20:43

I guess goes to show

20:46

you, you know, and well, you know, when

20:48

you were always I'm always so

20:50

caught up in like, what's next? What am I gonna

20:52

do? How am I gonna get here? You

20:54

know, and overwhelming.

20:56

Yeah, and

20:58

I guess I don't I I'm someone that doesn't

21:00

really I will blow past

21:03

the present, which I guess, exercises

21:06

like brushing your teeth with your eyes closed

21:09

and paying attention to the toothbrush.

21:11

It would be very, it's

21:13

so therapeutic. Yeah, I get that. And

21:15

for you, I think cooking like, you

21:17

know, like, like, people have their cooking routine

21:20

when they like, you know, they

21:22

have their music on or they have the game on or they

21:24

have like all these different things going on. And they're cooking

21:26

and they're doing this, and they're doing their thing. It's like,

21:28

when you're actually making a sauce and

21:31

like you like, and I

21:33

say close your eyes, because our vision

21:36

taints a lot of our other senses,

21:39

actually. So when you

21:42

close your eyes, you really can taste

21:44

more, you really can hear more, you really can

21:46

your other senses are just in height are heightened,

21:48

right? So

21:49

here's

21:52

my problem. Okay, here's

21:55

my problem. And I don't know if you guys can relate to

21:57

this. I'll take all this in. I'll be

21:59

like, let me give this

21:59

to try and I'll do it for a few

22:02

days and it may be helpful. But

22:04

then I'm just going to slip back into my... Then

22:06

it's out. Yeah, then it's out. It's like stretching.

22:08

I know I need to stretch. I know it. Like

22:11

I have to. I have to stretch more and I'll do it for a week

22:13

or two weeks and then I just stop.

22:16

Well, like she said though, it's a practice. Like

22:18

it's a practice. It's

22:20

literally, it's just like your muscles. If you don't go

22:23

work out, when you do go work out and you

22:25

start picking up the big weight, you're going to pull a muscle,

22:27

right? So it's a literal thing that

22:29

you practice and it's okay to forget. Like sometimes

22:31

I'll be like, oh my God, I didn't do this or I didn't

22:34

do that or I forgot to do my

22:36

meditation. I'm like, let me sit down. Let me do it

22:38

really quick. You know, like you, it's okay.

22:40

I mean, we're human,

22:42

right? It's fine. But

22:44

in your relationship,

22:46

the same thing happens in our relationship.

22:49

We fall into this very auto

22:52

mode with our person

22:54

and we think that they know what we're thinking. I've

22:57

been together for a while. They know how I feel. Why

22:59

would this happen? It's like,

23:01

and you take those little moments for granted

23:03

too. Like you get used to that good not kiss

23:05

and you get used to all that stuff and you don't really

23:07

like,

23:09

I don't know, savor it as much as you used

23:11

to. And there's one part in that article that says,

23:13

um, like you just kind of

23:15

listen to respond. I'm very bad about

23:17

just listening to respond and not like actually

23:20

listening. And then I'm just close to anger

23:22

and then it's just a whole fucking thing.

23:25

Jesus, this is working. What is this podcast?

23:28

I try to use this article this morning.

23:31

I like listening down. I'm like, but

23:34

I got to change my life.

23:36

I literally would love

23:38

to do. I would literally love to do a couple's,

23:40

um, meditation with you and, and,

23:43

uh, Serena, like it literally builds

23:45

closeness. Like it's seeing someone

23:47

for the first time that you've seen every day because

23:50

you're seeing, you're seeing like

23:53

them in their most, um,

23:56

I don't want to say vulnerable because that's not

23:58

the, like you've seen each other vulnerable.

23:59

I'm sure but I mean like

24:02

you're almost like the the spirit

24:04

down the strip down Yeah,

24:08

and in this present moment, it's not like thinking

24:10

about this thing about that It's like you literally are like nothing

24:12

else in the world exists And I'm sure that's one

24:15

of the reasons why you love her so much because she probably

24:17

gives you some sort of like presentness

24:20

right

24:21

but

24:22

And in this article

24:24

we lose that sometimes because we

24:26

get in this we get in an auto as humans and

24:28

then we get in an auto as a relationship and

24:31

then things blow up

24:32

and and sometimes you don't know how to

24:35

deal with that and I think that I

24:37

Always say this it's very important

24:39

to understand that

24:41

people's feelings aren't valid how you

24:43

feel is valid How I also feel is valid.

24:45

How do we get to a solution?

24:47

Right? I love you. You love me

24:50

We're not seeing eye to eye right here. How

24:52

do we get to a solution? And I think that

24:55

There are mindful things that we can do

24:57

to think like oh wait When I

24:59

said this I now understand why she felt that

25:01

way Do you know what I mean because you're taking

25:03

yourself out of it? And I think that being in

25:05

the present moment is something that are

25:09

You know people it's so funny cuz so

25:12

I was with Shannon You

25:14

know yesterday the other day and She

25:17

literally messaged me after the conversation

25:20

that I had on the show and she was like

25:22

do I need to start meditating? Do I need to start

25:24

like? Something like that because

25:27

because how did you just be so calm in

25:29

that moment? And it was just like yeah, cuz her mind

25:31

runs a thousand miles per hour, right?

25:33

Okay, even like catch us

25:35

exactly because again, I think I

25:37

think I think a lot of people

25:40

That are on reality TV have

25:43

that same similar like my mind's constantly

25:46

running It really

25:48

I think that I think it's not even reality TV.

25:50

I think that we are Program to be

25:52

like this look at how many things we have that are

25:55

going to That are our distractions,

25:57

right? I think a lot of people are like this

25:59

And busy is like a new personality trait.

26:03

Right, right. And so that's why, like

26:05

we said, it's a practice to really,

26:07

and again, for you, Joe,

26:09

it might not be the brushing the teeth, but whatever

26:11

it is, you know, there's also another trick

26:14

that people say, I really need to like write

26:16

this down somewhere, do a video about this. But

26:19

when you're feeling really anxious to

26:21

put like a rock, not a hard rock,

26:23

but like put a rock or a pebble in your shoes.

26:25

Well, is there a soft rock? I mean, all rocks

26:27

are hard. No, but like a pebble, not

26:30

something that's sharp, not like a sharp rock, but

26:32

you know, like a pebble, put it in your shoe

26:34

and

26:36

pay attention every time you walk, one shoe,

26:38

or for one foot, and pay attention

26:41

to that.

26:42

And that will ease your anxiety.

26:44

I heard that before. Yeah, I've heard that before. Oh really?

26:46

Mm-hmm. I'm gonna be walking around with fucking

26:49

gravel in my shoes.

26:50

Yeah. Yeah. I

26:52

had a new pebble. There's a lot

26:54

of different things. And I just think

26:56

that exercising

26:58

mindfulness, and like you said, Joe, even

27:00

figuring out what it is and what it means to you

27:03

and where you can implement it in your personal life, but then

27:05

also transition it over into

27:08

your relationships

27:09

is very

27:11

important. And

27:15

listening, I think is the biggest piece

27:17

of this article, in my opinion, just to wrap

27:19

it up. Um,

27:22

when I say, like, there's

27:24

a thing called active listening in yoga,

27:28

and basically what you do is you have

27:30

a conversation with someone, and you

27:32

repeat everything that they're saying to

27:34

you.

27:35

And I'll do it one day without

27:37

you guys knowing. I'll do it on a podcast without

27:39

you guys knowing one day. And you'll

27:41

be like, oh wait, what? And

27:44

in relationships, people feel

27:46

seen when all you say is

27:48

literally what the other person is saying back to you. Do

27:51

you say it back like in a question or,

27:54

or do you sit there and say, I'm going to repeat

27:56

what you're saying? No, no, no, you don't tell them that you're

27:58

doing it. that you're doing it. You just

28:01

do it. So basically, how

28:03

was your day today, Tia? It

28:06

was good. I had a good day. Went

28:08

to the doctor. You had a good day.

28:10

You went to the doctor. Okay.

28:13

Like you're like, yeah, I did like

28:15

good. All right. You know, it's kind of

28:17

like that, but you know, you're, you're normally talking

28:19

about something deep, right? And, and yeah,

28:21

it helps you stay present. Exactly. Exactly.

28:24

And what

28:24

this person is. Okay. Well,

28:26

this is, um, I will, I

28:29

will try like one or two of these things.

28:31

On Serena. Try it on Serena. Yeah. On Serena.

28:34

Well, I can actually probably try it on Serena

28:36

right now because, um, it is time

28:39

for our guests.

28:40

I'm very happy. She's on the podcast as

28:42

a guest. Everyone, please welcome my

28:44

fiance Serena Pitt to click

28:47

bait.

28:47

All right.

28:54

All right. Serena's here now. I know Serena

28:56

thought that she was going to, um, take part

29:00

in this interview with me. Like we were going to be interviewed,

29:02

but I'm actually interviewing you right now. Really?

29:04

Are you? Yeah. So we're going to

29:06

have a little fun.

29:08

Not about Joe. It's about you, honey. I

29:10

don't know if I should be nervous or excited. All

29:13

right. Here's the thing, Serena, you know, we

29:15

were not quite sure of your intentions when

29:17

you first walked on that beach. Oh,

29:20

wow. We're starting off hot early. She

29:23

was a hot commodity. You're this man. No joke. I'm

29:26

joking. So everything, everything's out in the

29:28

open now. You're engaged to a

29:30

strapping young lad. Hey,

29:35

but really you're coming at me already. Coming

29:38

at me already. Hey, listen,

29:40

listen, 35 is the new 25.

29:45

So how, how is everything now since you,

29:48

since, since you're wonderful,

29:51

lovely, beautiful, romantic

29:53

engagement. And now that you're finally open

29:55

and you could talk about it. Yeah.

29:58

I mean, Joe, this is so. We're

30:00

answering this question to you. Well,

30:03

I... You know. You've been doing this now. The

30:06

people want to know. The people want to know. The

30:08

people want to know. Well,

30:10

things have been amazing. They've been fantastic.

30:13

The relief is

30:15

like nothing I've ever felt before after

30:17

that last episode finished. We're just so

30:19

excited that you know, everyone can

30:21

know. We can share with people now and be out

30:23

and do normal people things

30:26

and not be in hiding. So yeah, things

30:28

have been great. I have no... Did you ever get

30:30

caught

30:31

hanging out? Yeah, we did. Right

30:33

in the beginning. Right? Like day one. And

30:36

I told him. And I saw Rina right before

30:38

I asked Rina, tell him no. Tell him no. Tell

30:40

him Natasha said don't do it. Natasha was

30:42

like, where did he take you? Where did he

30:45

take you? Yeah, but he did it. Okay, so I

30:47

did read... I do want to talk about

30:49

this and then Natasha you could ask, but I did read...

30:51

I forgot what article it was where you said

30:54

that every day

30:55

gets better and better with Joe. Could

30:58

you maybe go into more detail

31:00

with that? Joe is trying to shrink

31:02

it. You know what? Do not do not answer that.

31:05

Do not answer that. I will

31:07

no longer be answering questions from Joan's interview.

31:10

Tia and Natasha take it away. Listen,

31:12

no. This is what I'm going to ask

31:14

you. I

31:15

want to know the real T. What did Mama

31:17

and Papa say when you came home? What

31:19

did they say? How did you

31:21

break it to Mama and Papa and the family?

31:24

And where you nervous? I want

31:27

to know about that. Yeah, so we were

31:30

able to call them. We did a FaceTime

31:33

with them. So I think it was the day after

31:35

we got engaged from Mexico

31:37

where we were still there. On camera. On

31:40

camera. So I FaceTimed them separately

31:42

from Joe. I was like, let me go, break the news,

31:44

and then once they feel

31:47

ready, break

31:49

the news. But when you came home,

31:52

was your mom like, girl, so are we sure?

31:56

When you came home and there were no cameras, it was

31:58

just the fam, what was it?

31:59

that feeling. Well,

32:02

but and I'm sure they did. I'm sure they

32:04

they of course they had the question. If

32:06

she's sure. I mean, you know, what's funny

32:09

is they never really questioned if I was

32:11

sure. OK, I'm pretty decisive

32:13

when it comes to relationships. And this is

32:15

obviously a huge decision. I'm I'm

32:17

not very rash

32:20

in my decision making. I really think things through

32:23

have always been that way. So they never

32:25

were like, are you sure? I think

32:27

when I said I'm engaged, they definitely knew I was sure

32:30

about that. And I think they could tell right out

32:32

of the gate, like I was so happy, so

32:34

in love, so excited about the relationship. Like they could

32:36

see that and feel that from me. So

32:39

that was something that they could have confidence

32:41

in was my excitement and

32:45

like certainty in the relationship and the engagement.

32:47

I think what it comes down to, it's just the shock.

32:50

Like we did things very

32:52

out of the typical order. And

32:55

my parents always imagined, you know, me getting

32:57

engaged and them knowing the guy

33:00

and being a part of the engagement, you

33:02

know, having someone ask for their blessing,

33:05

all of those,

33:05

you know,

33:07

stereotypical things that you get

33:10

when you have a relationship and get engaged in

33:12

like a very chronological order. So they

33:14

just I don't think they expected me

33:16

to get engaged. I didn't expect myself to get

33:18

engaged. So it was understandable

33:21

that they were just completely shocked. And it was a

33:23

lot of like

33:24

what they expected my engagement

33:27

to look like versus coming to see

33:29

this as the reality of

33:31

what my engagement now looks like. So

33:34

it took them some time. And I think their main concern

33:36

was just like

33:38

taking a deep breath, processing it all

33:40

and then getting to know Joe. Like they really were

33:42

like, we want to be a part of this. We want to

33:44

share this with you. And step one of that is

33:46

meeting Joe and, you know, seeing

33:49

what you love. I saw your sister's post about

33:51

him like she got a new brother or

33:53

something. It was really cute. My sister came on

33:55

board. It seems like they're supportive. She came

33:57

on board right away.

33:59

My sister was on board.

33:59

right away. Yeah, so we're very excited.

34:02

So I okay, but during hometowns, I always say

34:04

there's an MVP like like when everybody has

34:06

their hometowns. I'm Matt season your sister was

34:08

MVP honey. She I said

34:10

yeah, she she knows she knows

34:13

something's up.

34:14

Okay, so Serena though

34:16

you you you for

34:18

real, you honestly said like you did

34:20

not expect to get engaged and you're not very

34:23

you're not a rash person. You don't make rash decisions,

34:25

which I know you you really don't.

34:27

So what like, what did

34:29

Joe do? Like what was it about

34:32

Joe that you're just like smitten,

34:35

I guess would be the word. I

34:37

mean, this is so bizarre.

34:39

So I've heard you talk to her.

34:42

Well, it's like, you know, there's a chance you could get

34:44

engaged, but you don't just expect

34:46

like you don't know you're going to. Yes. I mean,

34:49

she knew that going into it. Yeah, I think

34:51

I think going into it, I just

34:54

I struggled to get there the first time

34:56

on my first season. So I was very skeptical

34:59

of like, you know, I was optimistic, I could find

35:01

someone, but it's like, I'm actually gonna be able to get there of

35:03

like, I'm in love with this person, I see

35:05

a feature with this person, I want an engagement

35:07

with this person. So I think part of it

35:09

comes down to like the format of paradise

35:12

was really ideal for me, really

35:15

worked for me. And

35:17

the person, I mean, I

35:19

just guess that's what that

35:21

was more of where I wanted the question

35:24

to go. But

35:26

no, I think it's I think it's funny,

35:28

because I think you and I are, I

35:30

keep talking to you like I'm interviewing you, but we're very

35:33

similar. And I don't think either of us expect it to

35:36

fall head over heels in love and get engaged.

35:38

Do you? Yeah. So so speaking

35:40

on that, do you do you?

35:44

Would you say the same thing, Serena, that you guys are

35:46

very similar and like that was something that surprised

35:48

you? Yes, we are

35:51

very similar. I think

35:53

we fall in a nice middle ground

35:56

of like being similar and different.

35:58

So like totally, totally. we think alike

36:01

like our opinions on a lot

36:03

of things line up like

36:05

what our interests like the life we want to live our

36:07

goals like the big things are similar

36:09

and then we balance each

36:11

other out nicely in ways to like

36:14

right because you know grumpy in your sweet. Exactly.

36:19

But do you think

36:21

I'm grumpy?

36:24

But Joe but Joe you called yourself grumpy

36:27

I saw that post No, I could

36:29

I could be at times I could be grumpy.

36:31

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you definitely get in

36:33

your head about stuff

36:35

and then I think I do a good job of like calming

36:37

you down.

36:39

You do. How has been navigating

36:42

seeing each other? You know you live in Canada for

36:44

our listeners if you don't know Serena

36:46

lives in Canada Joe lives in Chicago, but you

36:49

guys spend a lot of time together. I know Joe

36:51

you've been there and

36:53

she's been in Chicago. So how

36:57

is that going? How often do

36:59

you guys do you have like a plan like on a calendar

37:01

like we can see each other this weekend this you know blah

37:03

blah blah blah like how is that?

37:05

Yeah, we're definitely planners when it comes to

37:07

when we're going to see each other just because you know

37:09

we want to spend as much time with each other as we

37:12

can but obviously we live in different countries

37:14

and on top of that we have like our own lives

37:16

and our own opportunities and stuff like that.

37:19

What's the longest amount of time you've gone without

37:21

seeing each other? Two and a half weeks

37:23

I think.

37:24

Yeah, okay, that's not bad. Little over

37:26

two weeks. So so what happened when

37:28

we left Paradise Serena

37:31

came to Chicago and we

37:33

hung out for 10 days we got caught the first day

37:35

I made a mistake should have never walked

37:38

around in public I you know it

37:40

was my bad I take full

37:41

responsibility. Say Natasha

37:43

you were right. Say it. Natasha

37:46

you were right. But

37:49

then after that we pretty much hung out in

37:52

my apartment for like 10 straight

37:54

days and

37:56

everything. I mean we

37:59

we did more survive. I mean, I'm gonna be honest,

38:01

it was always very, like every day,

38:05

we did more than survive. Every day

38:09

was really nice and it just kept getting

38:11

better, which I think

38:14

is what you want in this, in

38:16

a relationship.

38:17

Now we're getting better at the distance

38:20

and like we definitely have like planned out our

38:22

schedules for like the next month to know

38:24

like, yeah, when we can see each other. But

38:27

in the beginning, that two and a half

38:29

weeks felt so

38:32

long because we met

38:34

and then we never separated from each other.

38:36

Like we had never had time apart.

38:39

Like we were together morning tonight, all

38:41

day, every single day for a full month

38:43

straight, got engaged,

38:46

spent a couple days together in Mexico.

38:47

I went and saw Abigail in New

38:49

York for like three days, which

38:51

felt kind of long. And then we were together for 10 days,

38:55

literally nonstop because again, we can't go anywhere.

38:57

It's not like he's going out with his friends and

38:59

I'm doing something with my friends. Like it's 24 seven

39:02

together. And then we separated

39:04

for two and a half weeks where I was back in Canada

39:07

and that felt

39:08

really long. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

39:12

That's good. It's good that it goes on because

39:14

you miss the person. Yes. And what's good

39:16

right now is that we are only an hour

39:18

away and we're able with like the flight,

39:21

right? Because the flight is an hour.

39:23

Yeah. Well, yeah, it's an hour flight and

39:25

we are both planners. So as

39:27

of right now, the longest we're going to be apart will

39:30

probably be like a week here

39:32

and there before the most part,

39:34

we'll,

39:35

we'll be back and forth from Chicago and Toronto. And

39:37

then come the spring, we're going to figure out where we want

39:39

to live. I'm so excited. All right.

39:42

So this part I really protested

39:44

against. But

39:47

it's, I got to tell you about

39:49

it. Okay. So every season there's

39:51

a new cast and we go through the photos

39:55

and we did your season.

39:58

Would you like my

40:01

first impression of you. And I don't

40:03

even know what I said. I just know that they

40:05

have this clip. I would love to.

40:08

I would love to know more. She

40:10

doesn't bullshit because I don't

40:12

get to hear, yeah, I mean, I guess you should be. No, you

40:14

shouldn't. Because I don't know. I

40:17

don't know what my. What are you gonna say? Roll the tape.

40:19

I hope it wasn't negative. Roll the tape. It was not

40:22

negative. My top four would be

40:24

Serena P from

40:27

Toronto. Serena

40:30

P. Did you see her? That's what you think's gonna

40:32

win. Yeah, I think she's really, really

40:34

pretty. No, I'm basing this. I mean, I'm basing this

40:36

mainly. Wait, Serena C. P.

40:39

P. There's a P. Yeah,

40:42

there's a Serena P. She's from Toronto.

40:45

She's very pretty. Oh,

40:48

yes. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, Toronto girl.

40:50

Yes. Yes, yeah. Yeah,

40:52

she's. Yeah, there

40:54

you go. Okay, why? What is it about her that

40:56

really just draws you? Why

40:59

her? Well, I

41:02

think she's really, really attractive.

41:05

And I'm basing this pretty much off of looks because

41:08

that's all I could do. I don't have anything else but a fucking

41:10

paragraph and I can't really go off of that. So

41:13

if I'm gonna base it off of looks, she's

41:16

got really nice skin. She's got,

41:19

I really like her hair.

41:22

Did you talk her on Instagram yet? Listen,

41:24

I understand that this answer could be shallow,

41:27

but that's all I have to work with. Okay,

41:29

got you, got you. It

41:32

counts, count it. Cut it off. Wow,

41:38

I really taught you. You later me.

41:41

Good person, Preston. So. Look,

41:44

try to be, are you pregnant right now? Look.

41:47

Because

41:50

that's what it sounds like. Yeah,

41:52

I remember, yeah, I remember

41:55

your, your... Yeah,

41:59

I guess, yeah.

43:46

in

44:00

that first conversation because

44:02

I do, like once we got to

44:04

Paradise and we were doing like pre-interviews, I was saying

44:06

like, Serena P. is one of the people that I'm interested

44:09

in. That's what I heard it.

44:11

Yeah, and then when I talked to her,

44:13

I remember thinking, oh shit,

44:17

I was into her and now I like

44:19

her. Which is, because sometimes

44:21

like, you know, you think you're gonna be into somebody and then you

44:23

meet him, you're like, oh, I

44:26

was wrong. Yeah, Joe was like, please be a bitch,

44:28

please be a bitch. He was like,

44:30

damn it, she's so nice. And

44:33

then he threw himself into the ocean for three

44:35

hours. It's so funny because they didn't

44:37

show this, but like when I came

44:39

down, me, Abigail,

44:42

Ivan and Joe were all standing at the bar

44:45

and Joe's like grilling everyone, like

44:47

who do you wanna meet, who do you wanna meet, and everyone was

44:49

like, ah, I don't know. And I

44:51

was like, okay, fine, like who do you wanna meet?

44:53

And Joe was like, oh, I wanna meet you.

44:56

Like I said your name, I wanted to meet you. And

44:58

like so confident, right at the gate. And

45:01

then I went over to him, like

45:03

for our first conversation, like I went over, Natasha,

45:05

you and Joe were talking and me and Ivan

45:07

came over to hang out with you guys and Joe and I ended up sitting

45:09

and having that conversation that got shown and

45:12

you just lost it. Like you lost all

45:14

your swag within like four seconds. But

45:17

I liked it, I liked it, that was cute.

45:20

Yeah, that was, yeah,

45:22

that's just, that's what happens

45:24

when I like someone. So

45:26

if my swag would have been consistent,

45:29

then I would have probably not have

45:31

been that into you.

45:32

Yeah. Yeah, well you were and now we're engaged,

45:35

so. Yeah, so there you go.

45:37

I remember watching Paradise

45:40

back and being like, cause even

45:42

though we're all on the beach, we don't get to see the private conversations.

45:44

I remember watching it back and being like,

45:47

you know, all these dating books

45:49

that everybody reads, like don't

45:52

show all your cards, be mysterious,

45:54

do this, do that, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, Joe,

45:56

what are you saying right now? What are

45:58

you doing?

45:59

In Paradise, all those dating

46:02

rule books go out. They go out. They

46:04

go out. Like you guys literally were

46:07

someone who, you guys are

46:09

literally one of the couples that was just like,

46:11

they're just saying exactly how they feel. Exactly

46:14

how they feel in the moment. And the things that were thrown

46:16

at you. So I definitely give you guys kudos to

46:18

that. And I think that now going into the real world,

46:21

you have no questions. I

46:23

mean, of course you're engaged, but you have no questions

46:25

about, and

46:28

you have no questions about who, what, where,

46:31

why, because you've been so open

46:33

with each other.

46:34

Which does

46:37

help a lot leaving the show

46:40

and stepping into the real world. It makes

46:42

the transition effortless.

46:45

Yeah, no questions, no questions about it. Advice

46:48

for people that do go on the show in

46:50

the future. You really need to try

46:52

to let yourself go. Yes, so

46:55

it's hard. So Serena, I

46:57

wanna talk about why we are so happy for

47:00

you and watching your

47:02

love story on TV. There's

47:05

another love story coming up, Michelle season.

47:08

One of your friends. How

47:13

close are you guys? Let our listeners know. How

47:15

are you feeling about her season?

47:17

All the good things.

47:18

So Michelle and I are, Michelle

47:21

I would consider like a close friend of

47:23

mine. She came in late on math season.

47:26

So we didn't start getting close until

47:28

like later into the season.

47:32

And then our friendship just like really continued

47:35

after the season. Oh, she was one

47:37

of the add-ons. Yeah, she was one of the girls that came

47:39

in late. Came in hot, honey. Yeah.

47:42

Okay, I remember thinking she was so cool. And I'm like, I'm

47:44

not supposed to like these new girls. They're too much

47:46

competition, but she was so cool. No, she was

47:48

so cool. Her and I like bonded

47:51

right off the bat. I think she was just a little reserved because

47:53

obviously she was coming in late. And

47:55

then yeah, we've just continued on that friendship. So

47:58

I

47:58

mean, yeah, I'm, I talked.

49:59

to her before she started filming. Now

50:02

that you're a very happily

50:05

engaged woman and the

50:07

process really worked for you. Yeah,

50:11

so now that I'm a happily engaged woman in

50:13

the process, it really worked for me, as

50:15

Joe said. I

50:18

try to remember what the timeline was, because

50:20

I

50:21

believe I came back

50:23

from Paradise and she, yeah,

50:26

so I came back from Paradise and she

50:28

went to film about three weeks later.

50:30

So we got to chat a couple times and

50:33

I remember saying to her, because her and I

50:35

are similar in the way we

50:37

approach relationships, and

50:41

I went into Paradise skeptical and I think she

50:43

was hopeful but also skeptical going into being

50:45

the bachelorette of like, could this really work

50:47

for me kind of thing? And I said

50:50

to her, like, I wasn't

50:52

sure and I really just leaned

50:54

in

50:55

and let myself go and trusted

50:58

the process as much as I could and followed my heart

51:00

and it worked and it did. And I

51:02

think that it will for you too, but

51:05

you just got to put the fears

51:08

aside, like the heartbreak from last time

51:10

aside and

51:11

lean in

51:12

and you know,

51:14

you might get hurt or you might find the love of your life.

51:18

Yeah, that's beautiful. How

51:20

you doing? I'm here. I know,

51:23

that's you. That's really, really

51:25

beautiful. Oh, I love that. I

51:28

want to know really quick.

51:31

What was your thoughts on Joe's family?

51:33

I

51:36

love Joe's family. By the way, by the way,

51:38

not to cut you off. I'm gonna

51:41

pre-empt this. I don't know if that's a word. My

51:44

family and friends love Serena.

51:46

They like Serena more than they like me.

51:48

My dad yelled at me right away and said,

51:51

if you break this girl's heart, I'm gonna kill you. It

51:53

was legit what he said. I'm like,

51:55

I just got home. But

51:57

go ahead Serena, go ahead.

54:00

do always play a game. So answer

54:03

wisely. Let's do this.

54:06

Okay, Serena.

54:08

Here's our game. It's called Would You Rather? Would you

54:10

rather live in a mansion in the middle of

54:12

nowhere or live on a beachfront

54:14

home on a remote island? See,

54:18

both of those would stress me out because I'd be

54:20

so isolated. I would get I'm definitely

54:22

getting murdered here. Like I am not saying

54:25

I think I would go I think I would go

54:27

beachfront island but I'd have to have a boat to

54:29

like book it to shore. Yeah.

54:32

The cabin in the woods thing like that

54:35

freaks me out. Yeah, that was basically

54:38

the mansion or paradise. You pick paradise, good

54:40

girl.

54:42

Yeah, look at that. I

54:44

didn't even realize that. That's true. Only

54:47

be allowed to drink champagne or

54:50

only be allowed to drink tequila.

54:52

Ooh, tequila.

54:55

Same guys. Wear

54:57

nothing but ball gowns

55:00

or wear nothing but swimsuits. Swimsuits.

55:04

Absolutely. Paradise again,

55:06

handing out roses or receiving roses?

55:09

Oh, receiving. And the correct

55:12

answer is neither because I'm

55:14

engaged. Okay, but honestly,

55:16

in paradise, I got so

55:19

nervous every time I had to I mean, it

55:21

wasn't even nerve wracking. I knew I was giving it to Joe every week,

55:23

but it was like standing up there with the rose is

55:26

weirdly nerve wracking and like everyone's staring

55:28

at you.

55:29

Yeah, I was way more relieved when Joe went

55:31

up there and I could just like walk up and grab it and walk

55:33

back. Yeah, same. Same.

55:36

I agree. For the... It's handing

55:39

out the rose is very stressful.

55:41

You guys always have really cute things to say to each other too.

55:44

Yeah, we always try to one up each other with like

55:46

cute little cute little comments.

55:48

But one time I grabbed the rose before you asked

55:51

me if I wanted it.

55:52

That was actually really nice. That actually

55:54

loosened me up. I was so happy when you did that. Really?

55:58

Yeah, yeah. Because I was like, Okay, now

57:59

Let's go TV because when you and I are hanging out we like

58:02

to binge TV shows Your

58:05

answer For

58:07

me we're going we need

58:10

the TV. Okay Serena. What's your

58:12

favorite quality about Joe? Joe

58:17

did you write this one? Did you put this one in there?

58:20

I did I

58:27

I'm gonna go to I'm gonna

58:30

go your sense of humor

58:32

because

58:32

we're always laughing and having fun

58:35

I'm a very fun playful relationship

58:37

And I'm gonna go how caring you

58:39

are with the people in your life both me

58:42

and your family and friends Very

58:44

thoughtful. I love it.

58:46

Very sweet. Very sweet darling. Okay,

58:49

sure Thank you,

58:51

I will call you in a little bit. Thanks

58:53

for coming on So

58:58

This podcast and the last one I did on happy hour

59:00

was with Joe and Serena and it's you

59:03

two Like still are the best of

59:05

the best. I love talking to y'all It's so sincere

59:07

and sweet and just

59:10

a reminder that this show does work

59:13

And it's just so nice to see especially

59:15

with you to talking about just being able to just

59:17

let go and trust the process It

59:19

is very very hard to do and as someone who's

59:21

done it a few times It's very hard to do and it's so

59:23

cool to see you to do it

59:25

Talking to you guys as

59:27

a host or as a guest so I'll

59:30

tell you what though it was pretty It

59:32

was pretty bizarre listening to myself talk

59:34

about Serena Oh, yeah newer

59:36

and then and then listening to them being like

59:39

yeah, I got engaged to her Pretty

59:41

crazy. And of course first impressions always

59:44

feel a little shallow, but I mean Of

59:46

course, she's cute. You want to be

59:47

in her it works. So There

59:50

you go. I love the two and it was

59:52

so nice to have her on and Tia

59:55

i'm happy you're part of the clickbait family now. We're gonna

59:57

do this every week Thank

59:59

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