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What's up, everyone. Welcome back to another episode
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of Click like always, we have better relationship
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breakdown, click through to the week. We are gonna
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recap the episode this week like always. have
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four main points, charity's date.
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Cat first Brooklyn, chess is exit,
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and aerial. So we're gonna talk about all that.
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We have Katie coming on, If you've
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watched this season, she seems to be a front runner.
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And then my very special guest
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co host, Aaron Clancy is
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here. Aaron, what's up?
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What's going on, Joe. Good to
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see him in. What do you think about that intro?
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That was pretty clean. Indeed.
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That was clean. Grojo. Grojo
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on the mic then?
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What? What's up? What's new?
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Where you live in? How's life? Life
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is good. I can't really complain still in San
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Diego,
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obviously. You know, can't
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beat the weather. It's better than Where are you?
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New York?
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New York. Going to Toronto later,
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but New York. Yeah.
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So you exclusively stay wherever it's cold,
1:02
it seems like. But yeah. No. It's it's
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great
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out. It's great out here. I can't complain. Okay.
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What We're
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gonna talk about your love life in a second
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because this is also a
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a love
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podcast. But what's going on with work?
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What are you doing? So
1:19
that's more like sales
1:22
sales, you know, just that that's what
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my you know, I went to school for business,
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but a lot of social media stuff
1:28
Yeah. Nothing nothing too exciting there.
1:30
So don't wanna stick on that. But
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Okay. So You're unemployed? That's
1:34
fine. We all Yeah. That's doing
1:36
things. So
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if you -- Okay. -- if you wanna Venmo me anything,
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I'll
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I got you. I got you. I'm
1:45
right with you, buddy. What's actually
1:47
nice?
1:47
I should pedal sauce. So
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nice. I need I actually need a salesman.
1:52
Sales are slower now. What
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is going on? With your
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love life, you're going out, you dating, you're under
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any dating apps,
2:00
bars, you and James? Well, James has
2:02
been a communication. Yeah.
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No. Yeah. For sure.
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I am I don't
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wanna say anything too too, you know,
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official right now, but I'm seeing someone.
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And things are going really, really good.
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Super helpful. Yeah.
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Actually. I'm probably
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happiest that you're you're glowing
2:57
right now. Like, you can't even say it without giggling.
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I love it. Yeah. That's
3:00
actually the ring that's the ring light.
3:03
Okay. Where where
3:05
did you meet her? Like
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friend of a friend. Friend of a friend. Yeah.
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Super super talented
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in what aspect? Just
3:16
life. Yeah. It'll kinda give too much
3:18
away, but she's
3:19
an artist. Okay. Interesting.
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But I know but I know this person.
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Probably not. But -- Okay.
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-- you should because I'll be in the
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front row. I'm your number one fan. I'll be like,
3:32
you go, baby. Hold on big sign. You know?
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Okay. Alright. I love this. This is
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good. Where did you have
3:39
a first date to take her
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anywhere? How'd that go down?
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Yeah. You know what? The first day,
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it's funny because I wasn't really planning
3:49
on it. Being a date was more of like,
3:53
just just meeting this person,
3:56
but just got got a few beers
3:58
and then and then it was more casual
4:00
then I once I started really liking her, I was like,
4:02
okay, I gotta do this right. So I took her
4:04
to a nice a restaurant out here
4:06
in SD called Island Island Prime. It's like
4:09
It's like a steak lobster type place
4:12
right in the water. So, you
4:13
know, I did it right for sure, you know. Thanks,
4:15
Chad. I love it. Okay. Mhmm. Is
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she aware of your you're
4:20
stumped on the bachelor.
4:23
And Yes. -- bachelor's in paradise. She knows
4:25
about all that. And she knows about my horrific
4:28
failures. On national TV. So,
4:30
yeah, for sure. And if she's okay with that, then
4:32
I feel like she could be the one. Yeah.
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One thousand percent, I agree. And I'm even worse
4:36
in real life. So Yeah. I know.
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Trust me. I know. Alright.
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Let's start with the vaccination breakdown.
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And also, after the show, you're gonna
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tell me who she is because I wanna know. I
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got you. I got you. Okay. Number
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one, Kaylen Miller keys opens up about
4:53
Dean wanting to get a vasectomy.
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So Dean basically came out and
4:58
or told Caitlin that
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he wants to get a vasectomy
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because he doesn't think it's fair that
5:05
women have to use birth control
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and and
5:10
it's a double standard and whatnot. So
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I mean, hey, good for him?
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What do you think? Yeah,
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I mean, good for him. As
5:20
long as he can reverse it, if, you know, there's no
5:22
issues there. Well, that's the thing that you
5:24
could reverse it. So he they
5:27
who'll reverse it when they're ready to have kids
5:29
with the point as they're not ready to
5:31
have kids yet.
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Is it, like, is the reversal rate
5:35
one hundred percent Or is there any risk
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of, like, one day
5:38
failing? Because then I don't know. I don't wanna pull up
5:41
the stats, but that would be an issue.
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I mean, I agree. And I I'm gonna
5:45
be honest with you and all our listeners.
5:47
I've never looked into this. Maybe
5:50
it leaves a horrific scar, you know? Maybe
5:52
there's some superficial tied
5:54
issues. It's essentially it's it's like I'm
5:56
a man getting his tubes tied
5:59
pretty much. Yeah. Yeah.
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But you can you reverse? Tubes,
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Tigeon. I think I think you could. I
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think oh, man. There's gonna be a lot of
6:09
people talking to Chen about this episode. I
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think you could. Reverse tubes.
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Regardless, I don't know the knife. I
6:16
don't want the gold. I personally
6:18
don't want the gold under the knife unless
6:21
it's completely
6:23
unless I have to. You know?
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Yeah. Like, if you wanted to get,
6:28
like, cut up, that would be weirder.
6:31
Than not wanting to. Right? Yeah.
6:33
That would be I guess. Yes.
6:36
No. Anyways, seems
6:39
great. Do
6:39
you, you know, do it? Yeah. Listen. Hey.
6:41
Whatever makes them happy. I'm
6:44
all for it. They seem
6:46
to be on the fence. They wanna have kids. They don't
6:48
know yet. But they're
6:50
a lovely couple and they're getting married this
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year. So whatever floats your boat.
6:55
And if birth control has an especially bad
6:57
effect
6:59
on Calin then, you know,
7:01
great. For sure. For sure.
7:03
Yeah. So
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I love that for them. Okay. That's what I
7:06
should break out.
7:07
That's what I should break that
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number too. Jason and Valley celebrate
7:11
lucky number thirteen years of
7:14
marriage, Jason was on
7:16
the thirteenth bachelor. So there you go.
7:18
That is a bachelor's
7:20
success. Let's go the
7:23
the minority, but, you know, hey,
7:25
that's good. Yeah. Did
7:27
you go into this? Did you think Well,
7:30
did you think you were gonna be a
7:31
success, or did you think it was gonna end up
7:33
the way it ended up? So
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I didn't think it was gonna end up the way it ended
7:38
up. You know, I like
7:40
I said to the producers right when I was
7:43
or initially had that interview from
7:45
the Bachelorette, I said, you know, I've met
7:47
a lot of people on this planet. I'm not falling
7:50
in love with almost all of them. So don't
7:52
know if it's super likely, but
7:54
hopefully it
7:54
happens. And they're like, hey, that's brutally honest.
7:57
We love it. You know? Yeah. That's how I made
7:59
I attribute my success.
8:01
You're just a you're just good on
8:03
this guy, Erin, what what can we say?
8:05
Okay. The the way you've said that made
8:07
it seem like you don't think I am, but I am.
8:09
I appreciate it. You are, you know, this guy. You
8:11
are. Do
8:14
you think you were more hopeful going
8:16
into paradise the first time
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or the second time?
8:21
So I was super hopeful the second
8:23
time -- Yeah. -- which is
8:25
funny because that I feel
8:27
like ended up much worse. But
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yeah. Super helpful. I think dating
8:33
after the show can be kind of hard
8:36
because things kind of get
8:38
diluted a little bit. You never, you know, you
8:40
need a lot more people. I feel like
8:42
you I feel like their
8:44
intentions are less clear sometimes.
8:48
So so I was was really hopeful
8:50
to, I guess, date someone in the
8:52
same kind of fear
8:54
of vaccination just because it was,
8:56
I guess, I was I'd be more easily understood
8:59
by them so to speak, but --
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Yeah. -- yeah. Didn't work out. Well,
9:04
Jason Meznick and Mali, they have been together
9:06
for thirteen years. So congrats. I
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I do wonder sometimes I wonder if
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the success rate was
9:13
higher before social
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media because I
9:17
do think social media has played a part in
9:19
a lot of it. But I
9:22
don't know. I guess we'll never
9:23
know. But congrats. Yeah. Was there,
9:25
like, a wrong reasons type
9:27
narrative before social media? Was that
9:29
everything?
9:32
I'm sure. I mean, I'm sure just being
9:34
on television. You're
9:37
kinda there for the wrong
9:38
reasons. And I think, like, with,
9:41
like, bachelor at in the bachelor, you
9:44
know, if you go on and you're
9:46
not you're not super into the
9:48
lead, you
9:51
don't necessarily wanna go home. Right? So
9:53
you end up staying anyways and then you're
9:56
I guess you are there for technically
9:58
the wrong reasons, but what are you supposed
10:00
to do? I guess there's, like, magazines.
10:03
Right? Like, tablets and stuff.
10:05
So maybe they
10:06
wanted to be to be okay
10:08
magazine or people, whatever.
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That was all that was all the dreamed in back
10:12
in the day. I'm
10:15
still he's still dreaming the van, the
10:17
cover of magazine. Okay. Boleness.
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The cast, I actually did see this before
10:22
it was even brought up to us for
10:25
this podcast. I saw it on Rachel
10:27
Lindsay's Instagram. She
10:30
was working the red carpet at the SAG Awards
10:32
and the cast of white Lotus, like,
10:35
fan grilled over her. She's like, oh my god.
10:38
You're Rachel, you are the bachelor at. Very
10:40
cool. If you watch White Lotus season
10:43
two, Great Show, and
10:45
all those actors are extremely talented. You
10:48
seem to I I was obsessed with white letters.
10:50
I'm not gonna
10:50
lie. I love that. Yeah. Shoot. Yeah.
10:53
I think you would be great in the shell.
10:55
In the show. I am I also
10:57
think I would be great in the
10:59
show. Yes. No. That would be that
11:01
I I feel like it's perfect for Would
11:03
you know so Mike White,
11:05
the creator of the show, he
11:08
did school of rock, but he was
11:10
I guess he was obsessed with, what's
11:14
the show? You're on an island and then you got a last
11:16
survivor. He was obsessed with survivor, so
11:18
then he went on survivor. He
11:21
was also on an amazing race, but I'm
11:25
pretty sure there was a few people that on his
11:27
season of survivor that he cast it.
11:29
In the first
11:31
season of -- Oh, really? -- love
11:33
love. Yeah. That's that's amazing, actually.
11:36
The friendship paid off for
11:37
sure. Very very cool. I
11:40
like the first season too. I like the first season
11:42
it's on. Damn it too. It's a great
11:44
show. It's a great show. It was so it was so good.
11:47
Let's talk about let's talk about the episode.
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Four points I wanna talk about. First,
11:55
Charity gets the one on one. We will
11:57
talk about cat jumping in, but we'll do that next.
12:02
My personal opinion with
12:04
Charity and Zach, I
12:06
don't really feel the chemistry. And
12:08
I kind of felt the same way. I feel
12:10
the same way towards Zack and Gabby.
12:13
I feel like there's something missing. It's
12:16
also in Charity's defense. It's
12:18
kinda hard when your date your
12:21
sake of potatoes and he's running
12:23
around with you. That's Wait. Wait.
12:27
Do you remember that part? Did you see that?
12:30
A sack of potatoes. He
12:32
basically picked her up like a sack potatoes
12:34
and ran around a
12:37
little obstacle course with her. Mhmm.
12:40
So that in itself is hard. But yeah, I I don't know.
12:42
Like, I think she's I think
12:44
she's gonna be around. To
12:46
me, she has, like, bachelorette potential definitely
12:49
would be a big saw
12:52
it after person in Paradise. I
12:55
don't really see the chemistry with
12:57
her and Zach. What do you think?
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Yeah. Yeah. I would agree. Stack
13:02
of potatoes makes it hard. Yeah.
13:05
You're you're the only one that can pull that you and you
13:07
and Serena. But
13:08
yeah. Yeah. No. I agree. I think I
13:11
think the chemistry yeah.
13:14
Like you said, with charity, isn't
13:17
as good either. I don't know.
13:19
I feel like Zach's the type of guy that
13:23
it seems like he he knows
13:25
he knows who
13:27
he really likes right away almost,
13:29
but I agree. Maybe he's not all
13:31
that honest with himself about it because I I'll
13:33
see him like
13:36
like, shut shut someone down
13:38
so quickly, like, either with
13:40
Jess.
13:42
Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying work my way through this. Yeah.
13:44
Exactly. It seems like he knows he
13:46
doesn't like
13:47
them, but he's not like,
13:50
he's he's letting he's I don't know how to
13:52
scribe. But obviously, he's gotta keep
13:54
people there at the show. Of
13:56
course. And I don't know if it's a he doesn't
13:58
like them. I just think there are certain
14:00
people that I think, Zach, has great
14:02
chemistry with, and he's very
14:04
into. And he
14:07
just isn't there with the other girls. And maybe he's
14:09
keeping them around because maybe thinks he could
14:11
get
14:11
there. You know, with with Charity, this
14:13
is his tell. Right?
14:15
He says, like, wow. Like, I can't believe how
14:17
great she is. Like, she's so great.
14:19
I keep saying they're great.
14:21
Like, when I'm at
14:24
at the beginning of a relationship, like, if
14:26
you
14:26
are, like, we were in Paradise, If
14:29
you're, like, saw how Serena, felt like
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She's great. Yeah. She's great. great. She's great.
14:34
Not very much.
14:36
Yeah. So you don't give a shit about her? Yeah.
14:40
She's really great. You know? Yeah.
14:43
Great. She said. I think Zach has
14:45
a
14:45
tie. You can see it. Oh, hundred
14:48
percent. It's a it's
14:50
a case like yeah. Yeah. And cat.
14:52
Right? It was cat. The cat, the the one that
14:55
made out. Yeah. They Katie and Kath
14:58
look pretty
14:58
similar. Like, you know, compared to
15:00
most people on the planet. So I
15:02
think that's his time. Yeah.
15:05
Yeah. Honestly, v,
15:08
if there's gonna be one
15:10
thing that you need to be the
15:12
lead, you need to have
15:15
no type.
15:16
Yeah. I was about to say, you ain't can't
15:18
have a time. He can't I don't
15:20
got no time. Yeah. Yeah.
15:25
Because
15:27
the the the
15:30
last rose ceremony. The
15:32
little girl standing out there, I was like, okay.
15:35
The man has the time. Hell yeah.
15:37
Yeah. And if there's one key
15:39
Yeah. If there's one thing we know about,
15:41
Zach, The man has a time. Yeah.
15:44
And, honestly, Jess
15:47
I think Jess was his type too. I just think
15:49
he thought he could just
15:52
like, just take
15:54
his time with her and then maybe because
15:56
he cried after. She left he died. So
15:58
That's what I'm saying because someone
16:01
of his type went home. You
16:06
know? It should be so true. Yeah. He
16:08
doesn't like to see his type. Lee.
16:11
But when someone else when
16:13
someone else type her. Yeah.
16:15
When someone else leaves, he's not crying.
16:18
But he's like he's
16:19
like, damn. She was my type to
16:22
your start flaunted. But
16:26
cat interrupts So
16:29
Zach comes in. It's the first time everyone
16:31
has seen Zach, and he's
16:33
going to take charity on a date right before
16:35
he goes to take charity on a date. Cat
16:38
pulls him aside and makes
16:41
out with him.
16:42
And then he goes back in the room and takes charity
16:45
on a date. Now,
16:53
Is there any rules when there's
16:55
thirty something women or there's fifteen
16:57
left, whatever there is, dating one
17:01
guy. I guess there is no real
17:03
rules. If there's if there is one
17:05
rule, it's probably right
17:08
before you're about to go on a
17:10
date. Like that, is actually
17:12
the worst time to pull him.
17:14
No. She did
17:16
that. And then
17:19
which is like fine. If you're gonna make that power
17:21
move, make it, but then own it. And I
17:23
feel like when Brooklyn started calling her out,
17:25
then it became like, oh, she's
17:28
being mean to me. Well, it's like, well, you
17:30
opened it yourself up for this. You did it,
17:32
own it, fuck it, who cares?
17:36
And now I feel like she's playing victim card.
17:39
In Brooklyn, I think she was
17:41
right to call I I think I have no issue with her
17:43
calling her
17:43
out, but now I feel like she's harping
17:45
on it a little too long. Yeah.
17:47
Yeah. Mixed feelings. I think I like
17:50
you said, I mean, I at that point,
17:52
especially you definitely
17:55
should be focusing on your connection. Now
17:58
we both went through the process. Actually,
18:01
you were like a night one. Right? But yeah. But
18:06
no. No. No. I
18:08
don't think offense to it. It's okay. Yeah. No.
18:10
It's funny. I I didn't need to bring it up, but
18:13
No. It's like you spend way more time with
18:15
the with the, like, the girls or
18:17
the guys than than with the the lead. Right? So
18:21
There should be somewhat loyalty
18:24
or like at least respect.
18:27
Yeah. Because because you spend so much
18:29
time with them, you're all in the same boat. There's a lot
18:31
you have a lot in common with them. You
18:34
know, it's easy to empathize with
18:37
them because you don't want someone
18:39
to do that to you. So I
18:41
think that, you know, I was expect what she
18:43
did. But I like you said, I think she should
18:45
definitely own it because
18:47
she knew, yes, it might have a connection.
18:49
Like, it might help the connection with Zach.
18:51
But it's definitely gonna hurt your connection
18:54
with everyone
18:54
else. Right? Oh, yeah. Like, you have to like,
18:57
you when did this. It is fine
18:59
that you did it. Because you're there for
19:01
Zach and not there to make
19:02
friends, but then don't be shocked
19:04
when everyone's like, you're a fucking asshole.
19:07
Yeah. For sure. So I know he you
19:09
did what you did. Oh, you you started.
19:11
You started. You
19:13
started. So he started
19:14
it. Yeah. And you can't start
19:16
it at that back off. Yeah. Well,
19:19
I I think she had he had lip gloss
19:21
all over space too or something like that.
19:23
Like, it was very clearly visible. Yeah.
19:26
So Yeah. He was like, shit. He was he
19:28
was shook it, but he was like, oh, no.
19:30
Like, because
19:32
he's he it it's obvious that he
19:34
is very attracted to cats. So well,
19:38
But, yeah, that was that. Okay. And then
19:42
Jess ends
19:44
up going home. That was an
19:46
awkward conversation. He
19:48
cried after she was crying. I
19:53
my opinion, I don't think she I
19:56
don't think her
19:58
her point came across very
20:01
well when she was talking to Zach. He also got
20:03
hung up on, like, the fact that she wanted a one
20:05
on one, and I think, like, he could've like he
20:07
could've let that go. I think
20:09
Zach gets in his head thinking people
20:12
are there for the wrong reasons. Yeah.
20:14
Because didn't understand why he
20:16
like, what did he think the one on one? Like, she was
20:19
wanting airtime or something? III
20:21
think that's where because you know, I think we
20:23
have to remember that, like,
20:26
the leads also do come in, like,
20:28
somewhat insecure. You know, they didn't get
20:31
picked on the last season. They went
20:33
through their shit and now their guard
20:35
is up a little bit. And I feel like
20:37
he does that I
20:40
think Jess articulated herself
20:42
very well on the way back in the car.
20:44
She made a perfect point, like, I
20:47
I want that time and she should
20:49
want it. Like, if he's into her,
20:51
really into her, he,
20:54
you know, he should wanna take her out of one on
20:56
one. So I get hurt. I
20:59
I think I think I think he
21:01
was I didn't understand where
21:03
he was getting upset. Like, She's
21:06
she has a strong connection with her.
21:08
She's beautiful. He realizes she's great
21:10
a great time. Right? Why wouldn't he wanna spend
21:12
the day with
21:13
like, I don't understand, like, he should've been like, yeah, I
21:15
want that too. I don't know. Well, because think
21:17
he just he wanted his cake and wanted
21:19
to eat it, you know? He just he
21:21
he didn't want her to leave because he clearly
21:24
still likes her. And I
21:26
think she's a backup. Right? Like,
21:30
if if something goes wrong with somebody else,
21:32
there's Jess, and then I could pursue that.
21:34
And I think Jess felt like a backup.
21:37
And that's why she freaked out.
21:40
Either way, don't think he was gonna choose
21:42
her. So Yeah.
21:44
Yeah. Like, I guess that goes back to the point of,
21:46
like, what we said earlier, like, he doesn't. He's
21:48
not honest with himself. And
21:50
that, you know, it's just, like,
21:53
know, like, know that. And
21:55
you know, they all make sure she's not leaving,
21:58
I mean, you know, covered in tears. Right?
22:00
It's also it is also hard, you
22:02
know, in his defense. Right? You
22:05
know, there's the
22:07
realness of it and there's it's still with TV
22:09
show. Like, you he can't just walk in and
22:11
do a what Claire did and, like, choose
22:13
one guy and then say, like, peace out. Because then
22:15
we don't have a show. Yeah. Sure. You
22:17
know? So there's there's all that
22:19
too. So I don't I don't think I
22:21
think she will be in paradise, but I just don't
22:23
think she would have ended up with Zach anyways. Okay.
22:26
Last but not least, we'll be quick. Aerial.
22:30
They go on a a day. They there's
22:33
naked people in the sauna regardless.
22:37
They have great chemistry. Ariel,
22:39
when she's interviewing, she's engaging,
22:42
she's perfect for the show, she's very
22:44
comfortable She's
22:47
charming. I think she is
22:50
a awesome character
22:52
and
22:53
I think Zach's really
22:55
into her, and I think you really see their
22:57
chemistry. I
23:00
I think she's great. I
23:02
think the sauna thing was weird. I
23:04
think the hot tub with the
23:07
naked couple, you know, the the hot
23:09
tub water was probably really gross. But
23:12
I think she's great. She's funny. Yeah.
23:15
She seems to be really witty. I feel like
23:17
she almost I don't wanna sound like I'm dissing
23:19
Zach at all, but I feel like she's almost
23:22
Like, he he's not. I mean, he's not like
23:24
that. You
23:24
know, they have good chemistry. Right? Feel like she's leading
23:27
the way. You know? Yes.
23:30
It does. Because she is like, she's
23:32
just very comfortable in front of the camera.
23:35
And I think she's very comfortable with who she
23:37
is person and that comes across. I
23:40
personally, she is now my if
23:43
she doesn't
23:45
get picked by Zac and doesn't end up with Zac,
23:47
she is my number one vote to be
23:49
the bachelorette. Oh, wow. That's
23:51
that's commitment to you. That's that's big. Yeah.
23:54
Yeah. That's that's what I think. I think she'd be great.
23:58
Okay.
23:58
She definitely Yes. She could definitely she could definitely
24:01
own the road for sure. That wraps
24:03
up the episode. We'll
24:06
Katie's coming on pretty quick. We'll talk about
24:08
the clickbait of the week. Briefly,
24:11
it's pretty good. I spotted my
24:13
very sweet friend's husband, my
24:15
very sweet friend's husband on
24:17
a dating app and what I
24:20
did will leave most of you outraged.
24:22
So I think
24:25
this whole thing is kinda ridiculous because
24:28
if a married person is on dating
24:30
app. He clearly doesn't give
24:33
care about getting caught. Yeah.
24:35
So it must be. Like,
24:38
swinger couple or
24:39
something. That's that's what I would think. But
24:41
anyways, she she
24:43
thought about it the woman that wrote this
24:45
and then decided not to tell her
24:48
friend, which me
24:52
personally, if one of
24:54
my good friends' wife was
24:56
on a dating app, I'm definitely telling them.
25:00
But I just feel like if if she's
25:02
on if somebody's on a dating app that's
25:04
married, they clearly yeah, then it must
25:06
be some kind of open relationship. Yeah,
25:09
I think what I would do because,
25:11
like, he's like, it's so uncertain. Like,
25:14
I would want to tell like, that's my knee jerk
25:16
reactions tell them. But I think what I
25:18
would do is probably talk to them,
25:20
you know, and work the conversation, bring
25:23
up bumble, see, like,
25:25
and maybe even ask them, hey, if you saw your
25:27
friend's husband on a dating app,
25:29
what could you tell, you know, see what they
25:31
would do and and do what they would
25:32
do. don't know. I would I would
25:35
literally call up my friend. Let's say it was
25:37
you, Erin. I'm going, Erin, guess
25:40
what? Your wife's not dating yet. You might wanna
25:42
look into that. I would say.
25:45
So am I then? We're trying to do
25:49
that. Maybe that is what they're
25:51
trying to do. Maybe they're try to
25:53
dance with each other. Oh, that's
25:55
funny. Okay. Yeah. I don't know.
25:57
Let us know your thoughts. If
26:00
you're married and your
26:02
monogamous
26:04
stay off a dating app
26:06
because it's not the place for you.
26:08
Yeah. Right? And if I and if I saw you on one,
26:10
I would assume it was a cat fish because you're
26:12
so famous.
26:13
Thank you. Thank you.
26:14
You know, I always
26:15
love I always love when the
26:18
gasco host talks about how famous
26:20
I am.
26:22
Because it doesn't get brought up enough on this
26:24
podcast, and I feel I feel
26:27
slightly short in it. Okay. Everyone,
26:29
think it's the perfect time to bring
26:31
on our guests. Here
26:34
is another woman who I do believe has great
26:36
chemistry with Zach. You've
26:39
been watching her this whole season. Everyone,
26:43
please welcome Katie
26:45
to the podcast. Alright.
26:49
Katie. Katie.
26:50
Katie. Katie, welcome
26:52
to the Clickbait. How are you?
26:53
Thank you. I'm doing great. How are you guys?
26:56
We're good. Yeah. Doing well, Katie. Good
26:58
to meet you.
26:59
Did meet you as well. I'm super excited
27:01
to be on here. Thanks for inviting me.
27:03
Of course. Okay. So let's So
27:07
I'm going to Toronto in three
27:09
hours. Is that
27:11
yes. Yes. You're a Canadian. Correct?
27:14
I am proud of it too.
27:16
Okay. And you're from Kingston. Right?
27:18
Yes. So it's about, like, two and a half
27:20
hours outside of Toronto. Depending
27:23
how fast you drive, you could probably make it into
27:25
mom, I thought you're not listening. But, yeah,
27:28
it's a little outside
27:29
Toronto. Yeah.
27:30
Okay. So my wife is
27:32
from Markham.
27:34
Okay. Yes. I've heard about this.
27:36
That's amazing.
27:37
Okay. Okay. Nice.
27:39
Are you are you going to see your family? Yeah.
27:41
We're going to see your family. Oh, yeah.
27:43
I'm just gonna be there for the weekend and then
27:46
head back in work. So Okay.
27:48
Awesome. Thank you. So what
27:52
what do you you live in Austin
27:54
now? What do you do for what do you do for
27:56
Yeah. So I'm a travel nurse. I came down
27:59
to Texas about the first week
28:01
of April of last year, which
28:03
is super exciting. It's always been a dream of mine
28:05
to be a travel nurse. So I made it happen.
28:07
And I was in San Antonio for my
28:09
first little bit, and then I moved to Austin
28:12
the first week of August. So I
28:14
haven't been here too long, and then I had to leave
28:16
for
28:16
filming. So Yeah. Have
28:18
you ever did you ever run into Zach
28:20
before the show?
28:22
I did not run into
28:23
exactly I lied to me. Are you lying?
28:25
I'm not lying.
28:26
Okay. Did you run
28:27
into me? not blinking. It seemed
28:29
like maybe she it seemed like maybe she was lying.
28:31
I think she's lying too. No. That's okay. That's
28:34
okay. How did you
28:36
how did you wind up on the show? So
28:39
my aunt Jill nominated me.
28:41
And Yeah. I'm super
28:44
excited. Yeah. Ant Jill. Thank you, Angel.
28:47
But when I first got the email, I thought it
28:49
was, like, a spam. And I, like, told my
28:51
friend, I'm, like, Luca, this is so funny. She's, like,
28:53
no. Katie actually thinks that's serious. I
28:55
was like, oh, shit. Okay. And
28:57
then I actually wasn't
28:59
going to come. I think it was like when
29:01
I first got the official
29:03
phone call that, like, heads up or
29:06
I mean, sorry, green light and, like, thumbs
29:08
up. I was shaking
29:10
in my boobs. I was like, I don't think I'm gonna calm.
29:12
And it was just, like, for a few
29:14
things, I just got settled in Austin.
29:17
I had a great friend group. Love my job. And,
29:19
like, The thing with travel nursing is you're on
29:21
contract. So I would have had to have broken that
29:23
contract, which isn't a good look, obviously.
29:26
So Yeah. was extremely
29:28
apprehensive, and, yeah,
29:32
I got. Did
29:33
you did you watch did you watch a show before?
29:36
So I watched the show before. I've Aaron,
29:38
I've actually seen your season. Zach
29:41
season, I actually really watched
29:43
that
29:44
much. She was like she she was like, Erin, by
29:46
the way, you were my least favorite. Yeah.
29:49
By the way, you know what I
29:51
mean? I wanna give you a thought about it.
29:53
What what
29:53
were your thoughts? I mean, you watched Aaron. What what
29:55
are your thoughts on him? Just be honest.
29:57
If I if I I was about to say my
29:59
boyfriend
29:59
My best friend's actually, you know, I they
30:01
have favorite for sure.
30:03
was about to say if if I'm not your favorite,
30:06
keep it to yourself. You know? Obviously
30:08
No. I'll just go back to yourself. Was
30:10
there
30:10
no? I
30:11
wish I knew that. You're great. No. I appreciate
30:13
it. Okay. So night one,
30:18
You you meet, Zach. What
30:20
are your thoughts? It seems honestly,
30:23
like, your one of
30:25
the few women that really seemed to
30:27
have, like, great chemistry with him and and
30:29
have had it from the beginning. So,
30:31
yeah, just, like, go back to that tonight one and
30:33
your thoughts on that.
30:35
Yeah. Night one was extremely
30:37
nerve racking. I think immediately
30:40
when I got in the limo, I was like, what what
30:42
the actual heck am I doing here? Because I remember
30:44
the girl was talking about their,
30:46
like, designer dresses, how they got
30:48
them fitted to them, and I sitting here looking
30:50
at my dress. I'm
30:51
like, I went to Marshalls. I got these
30:53
shoes on sale. Like,
30:55
I'm like, I think
30:56
Shout out to Marshalls. Shout out to Marshalls.
30:59
Good start. But when I burst my zack,
31:01
I was, like, holy crap. Like, so
31:03
handsome, so tall, and
31:05
I was just super excited to meet him. And I knew
31:07
he was, like, a very genuine guy.
31:09
So I was just hoping that that
31:12
showed through our
31:13
conversations. Howard Bauchner: Yeah. I think
31:15
it did. Do you have you
31:17
know, dating prior. Do you have a type? No.
31:21
We've talked about before you got out just so you
31:23
know. We've talked about Zach. We believe
31:26
that Zach has a type. And we've Okay.
31:29
And you are that
31:30
type. Interesting. Yeah.
31:32
And if I had all type.
31:34
I was
31:35
gonna say if I know one thing about Zach, it seems
31:37
like he has a tie. Yeah. Do
31:39
you have a
31:39
tie?
31:47
I would just say that
31:50
So basically,
31:52
I know just like a good guy
31:54
that is super funny. I really
31:56
like funny guys. I like
31:59
guys that
31:59
are Over six foot. Over six
32:01
foot.
32:02
Over six foot. Good smile. And honestly,
32:04
just a good heart. Just a kind
32:06
hearted guy. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah.
32:08
Okay. Alright. So let's
32:10
go to your
32:14
date. You get a one on one. You guys
32:16
get a whole museum by yourselves, and then you
32:19
spend the night. So let's just go right to spending
32:21
the night. Well, you're shocked about
32:23
it. Let's get right into
32:25
the good stuff. Okay? Get right into it. Okay.
32:27
Were you shocked when he asked you to spend
32:29
the night? Because that doesn't happen on the
32:31
show. Yeah. No. I was super
32:33
shocked. Super excited, though. When
32:35
he did ask me. And
32:37
I didn't really know what to think of it of the time,
32:40
but when we walked around the corner and we
32:42
saw kinda like the camp setup in the tent,
32:45
I was, like, blown away. I thought it was so
32:47
cute, so romantic. And
32:49
the thing with me though is, like, I'm
32:51
really bad at sleeping. Like, I have a white
32:53
noise machine and all this stuff.
32:55
So sleeping in that tent wasn't
32:57
it. It wasn't the play for me. I like,
33:00
you could hear, like, construction off in
33:02
the distance. Zach kinda snoring
33:04
a little bit, and I just couldn't sleep. Hence
33:07
why I was like, I got no sleep. I think Zach
33:09
got a little but
33:10
asleep, but not that me.
33:11
Okay. Okay. And you guys pushed
33:13
you guys pushed the pushed
33:15
the beds together.
33:16
Oh, heck yeah. We did. Was it cold?
33:18
Was it cold in there? You guys had to snug
33:20
lot for warmth. It was purely survival. Right?
33:24
Purely
33:24
survival. It was actually quite chilly
33:26
in there. But he
33:29
basically still, like, I remember we were having
33:31
a conversation, and then he was, like, cake and
33:33
night. And I was, like, what?
33:35
Just in the
33:35
middle of the tunnel. God. She's so I started
33:37
talking again. I'm like, I don't think I heard that
33:39
right. And then he
33:42
can
33:42
night. I'm like, yeah. Okay. Alright.
33:45
Well, good
33:45
afternoon. Guys.
33:46
He's, like, stop talking. Is that a good
33:48
message? Shit. Okay.
33:52
So Well, in our eye. Well
33:55
So, yes, nothing happened
33:59
for those who think something
34:01
Well,
34:01
when you came in and say you didn't get much sleep,
34:03
that I feel like that was I know. Yeah.
34:05
She's because I I literally have such a hard
34:07
time sleepy. The girls even kinda
34:09
tested this because I always had my white noise
34:12
machine. We play the thunderstorm, sounds,
34:14
like, I'm just hard of sleeping. So
34:18
did you feel after that going back into
34:20
the house that any of the girls were
34:23
jealous of you? Jealous of of because
34:25
that I mean, to me, I mean That
34:27
does give you somewhat of an edge. You did spend an
34:30
eye with them. Yeah. I think,
34:32
you know, what's so amazing about the girls in
34:34
house are so supportive. But, yeah, I think
34:36
there may have been, like, a level of, you
34:39
know, jealousy. Like, they wanted a date like that,
34:41
so I get that. Like, whoa. Most of
34:43
us, if not all of us, for the
34:45
most part, were there for Zach and generally wanted
34:47
that connection. So that is such an intimate
34:49
time that you do get with
34:50
him. So I can see
34:53
that. Okay. Yeah. I mean
34:55
Okay. Is there any girls you don't like?
34:59
There no. I do like all of
35:01
them. Everybody's so different in their
35:03
old way, and truly they are beautiful
35:05
inside and
35:06
out.
35:06
There are some girls that, like, I wouldn't
35:09
have a close relationship afterwards for
35:11
sure.
35:12
But You wanna
35:13
you wanna name any names? You can't.
35:15
No. Susan, No.
35:16
No. Not smart
35:17
smart. Okay. So then
35:20
we'll fast forward, Zach. You guys all
35:22
go to
35:22
London. London seems great. I'm sure you
35:24
had great Right? You love London. Don't you?
35:27
Yeah. You saw so much of it.
35:30
Okay. Zach
35:32
gets COVID. You make the
35:34
decision to go
35:36
up to his room,
35:39
knock on the door, and and talk to him
35:41
through the door. Yes. Why
35:44
did you do that? And
35:47
were you happy about it after? Yeah.
35:49
Absolutely. Great question. Yeah.
35:52
I was super excited to do that only because
35:55
well, there's many reasons why I wanted
35:57
to do that, but I think, like, the
35:59
way I picture it is, you know, kinda how the show
36:01
pants out, and I had
36:03
my one on one already. And
36:06
I was like, okay. Like, I'm gonna have, like,
36:09
like, moments here, moments there get stolen
36:11
away. And I'm like, okay. So, like, what like,
36:13
how am I going to further build
36:15
a connection with this man that
36:18
potentially I'm going to be engaged to at
36:20
the end. And how do I show my initiative
36:22
that I do care for him? So
36:24
yeah. I was like, okay. Like, maybe, like, a little
36:27
gift basket some soup, some
36:29
tea, get some slippers. There's a little
36:31
teddy hair in there too. And
36:34
I was like, I don't know this conversation's gonna
36:36
go through the door. It could be extremely
36:38
awkward or it could go really well, and it went
36:40
really well. And I think
36:42
Zach was really appreciative of it.
36:45
For sure.
36:46
Yeah. I think so. Okay. So
36:48
I had a question for you now. If
36:50
you didn't do that. And the first
36:53
time you see Zach is
36:55
when he's about to go on his date in charity.
36:58
Would you have considered pulling
37:01
him there --
37:02
No. -- like cat did? No.
37:03
Okay. And why not? Because
37:07
So I know this is a little bit of a hot topic
37:09
right now. But for
37:13
me, that was Charity's
37:15
day, that was Charity's moment. And
37:19
I respect all the girls that I'm not
37:21
saying cat doesn't, but I
37:24
think there was a better time to do that more appropriate.
37:28
And I understand
37:30
that we're all vying for his
37:32
time. We all, like, need to take that initiative,
37:34
but that just wasn't the time for it in my perspective.
37:37
I agree.
37:37
And I think the kiss
37:40
too. wasn't
37:43
I just I don't know. It'd be it was not a
37:45
good feeling to be there. And then when
37:48
Brooklyn said her piece on it.
37:52
It's just like it was a very uncomfortable situation.
37:55
It was a very hostile environment, and
37:57
I wanted to leave so bad. Anytime
37:59
there's, like, negativity in the room.
38:02
Yeah. I'm just, like, I wanna hit
38:04
the ground running, but it
38:06
was just a very awkward
38:08
moment. But III understand
38:11
both
38:11
sides. You know what I mean? So
38:14
I get it. Let's
38:16
talk about the which
38:18
the group which
38:19
date. You
38:19
guys had like this moment
38:23
where you you made you locked eyes and it
38:25
was, like, you guys talked to each other
38:28
via I don't know.
38:30
It's brainwaves, I guess.
38:31
Yeah. Brainwaves. Exactly. How
38:34
about that? It
38:36
was really cool. Is it it was an interesting
38:38
moment like, nothing I had ever experienced before,
38:41
obviously. It's not something you do on a date
38:43
usually. If you do,
38:45
whatever, but it's not what I
38:47
do. And
38:48
Did it feel did it feel magical, like,
38:51
legitimately? It it was actually
38:53
such an intimate moment. And it's
38:55
like staring into somebody's eyes that long.
38:57
It's like, you get to know them on a different
38:59
level. It was I thought it was very
39:01
personal and I loved it. And like I
39:04
said, I was like, I do when
39:06
I was looking at him, I was looking you
39:09
know, I haven't seen my future with
39:11
him. Like, can I see this? And I was really reflecting
39:13
back on that. So You
39:17
weren't, like, in your head say, I I personally I would
39:19
have been in my head, like, what am I doing? Like,
39:21
what's
39:21
happening? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I
39:23
feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like feel
39:25
about that way too. Yeah. I
39:27
didn't know people actually called themselves,
39:29
witches. thought that
39:31
was, like, a negative. I
39:33
don't know.
39:33
Hope it's focused them. Yeah.
39:35
Like, they're calling those magicians and which is
39:37
like a
39:38
A magician. There's
39:38
no. They're different. There's which
39:40
is out there. What right
39:43
now in the house,
39:46
how do you feel you
39:48
stand amongst the other girls with Zach?
39:50
Currently? I
39:53
think I feel good about our connection at
39:56
this given moment. But
39:59
you generally don't know what's going on
40:01
with the other girls in their connections. Like,
40:03
some girls will come back and they'll say,
40:05
okay, yeah, we had an amazing time. This this
40:08
and that. And other girls are little more private.
40:10
And I totally understand that too. So
40:12
it's kinda hard. You just gotta, you know,
40:15
put yourself out there and, like, to me,
40:17
I was like, I am who I am. I'm showcasing
40:20
my personality and who I am. And
40:22
if he likes it, he likes it, he does me,
40:24
doesn't. And hopefully
40:27
you know what I mean? I just didn't put, like,
40:29
too much pressure on me. Smart.
40:31
Smart. Do you What
40:33
were your thoughts when Jess left?
40:36
Were you shocked by that?
40:38
I was so shocked. I remember sitting
40:40
on the couch and I
40:42
don't know if it was one
40:45
of the girls told me they thought Jess left,
40:47
and then Zach came in and confirmed
40:49
it. And I was, like, actually, shocked
40:52
at that time. And Jess
40:55
is just is such an amazing person.
40:58
She has a big big
41:00
spot in my heart. And I
41:02
think watching that back, I
41:05
felt for her. And
41:08
I I totally get it. And everybody
41:11
has their opinion about this, but I understand
41:13
that, like, when you do have that one on one way
41:15
somebody, you get that intimate time, you
41:17
get you know, some people,
41:19
like, need that time to open up because
41:22
if, you know, for people that know
41:24
that have been in this environment, you only get,
41:26
like, sectioned off times and sometimes you don't
41:28
even get those moments with
41:30
them. So, I mean, I get
41:32
it. I get mean, the truth is
41:34
the truth is and and only people from the
41:36
show really know this. I don't even know
41:38
because I wasn't really on it. But
41:41
if you if you don't if you
41:43
don't get a one on one, you're
41:46
not gonna make it to the end. But
41:48
I don't think in the history of the show,
41:50
I don't think anyone ended up
41:52
with the lead that didn't
41:54
get a one on
41:55
one. Like, it's that that time
41:57
is is one hundred percent Kusho.
41:59
Yeah. I I didn't get a one on one and
42:02
didn't work out for me. And I I think
42:04
I think Jess was one of my favorites.
42:06
She seemed so so yeah, she seemed
42:09
so sweet. So when I watched
42:11
that, I'm not gonna lie. I was I
42:13
was upset. I was so surprised.
42:15
Yeah. I think we all were very surprised
42:17
to be honest. And watching watching
42:20
Erin, watching your season back and,
42:22
like, I knew you were not gonna get
42:24
on one of them. Yeah. I was gonna say, no. I just I
42:26
just knew you were gonna make it. Like, I knew it.
42:28
Like, I watched it. I was like, this guy just says
42:30
that there, and then he were in Paradise. And
42:33
Yeah. It was twice a year ago, but in
42:35
that sense, it was a few
42:36
times. So I went to a paradise again and
42:38
also did more down again. No.
42:41
I I knew you weren't gonna get a one on one
42:43
too. I knew you weren't gonna get one rep. No.
42:46
No. No. No. No. No.
42:49
Okay. So talk talking about roses
42:51
here. You're at the rose ceremony. Of
42:53
course, you get a rose. I
42:56
personally even if you told me you were
42:58
surprised, I'm not gonna believe you
43:01
because you weren't surprised were you. You knew you were
43:03
getting a rash.
43:04
I I was confident in that moment. Okay.
43:06
Good. And then you find out
43:08
you're going to Budapest. How excited
43:10
are you for that?
43:11
I I was super excited. Never been
43:13
to Budapest, so I was super, like,
43:16
thrilled to see what Budapest had to offer.
43:19
Alright. Before the show,
43:21
where have you been? Were you lucky enough to
43:24
travel? I've been to a few spots,
43:26
but I would say nurse school occupied a
43:28
lot of my time. But
43:31
I've been, like, out to Lake
43:33
Louise in Canada, I've been to Thailand,
43:36
I've been in Miami a couple of
43:38
times
43:39
in California, but
43:41
-- Okay. -- I've been doing a few spots. Nice.
43:44
What are you doing right now? Are you are you
43:48
travel nursing? Are you under contract?
43:50
Yeah. I am under contract right now in Austin.
43:53
And I love it here. thought I was gonna be here
43:55
for, like,
43:55
three, six months. So I was like, no. I love
43:57
it. You're too much. I'm not going anywhere. Thirty
44:00
sixth. Thirty sixth Street. Right?
44:02
Oh, yeah. I'm in the sixth Street for
44:05
sure. Do you are you
44:07
a a barbecue girl? What do you any good
44:09
barbecue spots you had out?
44:10
Oh, yeah. There's some good barbecue sponsors.
44:13
Franklin's barbecue, which is really good.
44:15
And
44:15
Have
44:15
you been there? That's barbecue. Yeah. It's
44:17
so good. Well, one of my first's are great.
44:19
Yeah. It was one of my first barbecue spots.
44:21
Huge lineups, but it goes by pretty quick.
44:24
Okay. Terry Black's or Franklin's.
44:29
I loved hair black pork
44:32
ribs. Like, I could crush those.
44:34
They're so good.
44:35
Okay. What's the food out
44:37
in Kingston
44:39
where you're from? Poutine,
44:42
lots of Poutine. And it's the best
44:44
when you've had a couple soda pops
44:46
too. Like,
44:47
it's all Oh, what's a routine? Do not know
44:49
what Yeah. It's it's fries. It's it's
44:51
French fries with cheese curbs and gravy. It's
44:53
a Canadian thing. I But
44:56
to be honest, I don't really when I go
44:58
to Toronto, I don't really ever see PuT air.
45:00
I thought PuT was more of a Montreal thing.
45:03
Well, I think just, like, all around,
45:05
it's definitely popular in Canada,
45:08
but go to, like, smokes routine or
45:12
I don't know. There's some even, like, McDonald's
45:14
food
45:14
teams. I know some people probably gonna listen
45:16
to, like, that's disgusting. Yeah. But it's actually
45:19
really That sounds
45:20
hey, Katie. I have a have game for you.
45:22
We have to play them. Right? Right.
45:23
Okay. We're gonna play it. Yeah. We're gonna play a game. Let's
45:25
do it. Yeah. Alright.
45:28
I'm gonna essentially just rapid fire
45:30
questions, answer,
45:32
you know, don't lie, obviously. Alright.
45:35
What is the first thing you do after you wake
45:37
up? Obviously, not make your bed. Check
45:40
my phone. What
45:42
is your favorite holiday? Oh,
45:45
Christmas. Where
45:48
is one place in the world that
45:50
you have to visit? You must go.
45:52
The Maldives, small dive, small deeps,
45:54
however you say it.
45:56
Maldives. Okay. Thank you.
45:59
What'd you go to cocktail?
46:01
Oh, espresso martini.
46:03
That's good. That's a good one. Cats
46:05
or dogs?
46:06
Dogs all the way. Sorry cats. They're
46:09
taking it personally for sure. What is the
46:11
best dating advice you've ever received?
46:17
Be happy with who you are individually before
46:20
her giving yourself and
46:22
becoming in a relationship. We
46:24
told you that. That sounds nice.
46:27
I think I heard it on podcast.
46:29
Oh, I was made it up. What
46:32
is the screen saver on your phone? Palm
46:36
trees. Okay. Okay.
46:38
What is your go to karaoke song?
46:42
Cheryl Crow and Kit Brock. Make sure,
46:44
obviously. My
46:46
mine's evanescence wake me up
46:48
in science
46:48
and science. Dog. Wake me up. I
46:50
oh my gosh. I
46:53
sing bulk. Time I got drunk, I sank both
46:55
both parts of it on on stage of the
46:57
bar.
46:57
That didn't surprise me. It was actually about
46:59
the singers, but Alright. And
47:02
what is one piece of advice you
47:04
would give to anyone who goes
47:06
on the bachelor in the future?
47:12
Just be yourself. Don't
47:14
don't have, like, these made up answers
47:16
or this way that, you
47:17
know, you should be just truly be yourself.
47:20
Can't
47:21
go wrong with that. Sounds great.
47:22
That's what I always say. Just go on
47:24
the show, be yourself, and
47:26
you probably don't work out. Yeah. Take
47:29
my home night one be Yep. Alright,
47:32
Katie. Thank you so
47:34
much for taking the time. We really appreciate it.
47:36
Alright. Can't wait to watch
47:38
you the rest of the season. We're rooting
47:40
for you here. Thank you. We don't know what
47:42
happens, but we do think you're one of the front
47:44
runners. So
47:45
Yeah. It seems like yours is tight. Katie, it was
47:47
great to meet you. Yeah.
47:49
Thanks, guys. It was a pleasure meeting you as well,
47:51
and thanks for having me out here.
47:54
Got it. And also, Katie, make your bet.
47:56
What time is it on?
47:57
Yeah. I know. My bad. Alright.
48:02
That was Katie. She was
48:04
great. I think
48:07
I don't know. I think her and Zach have
48:09
some real
48:09
chemistry. What do you think? I
48:11
think she's great. Big smile, super
48:14
bubbly. I think she brings great energy up.
48:17
I see what Zach sees her for
48:18
sure. Yeah. I think I
48:20
think they're gonna you know, I think they
48:22
might go pretty I think they might go
48:24
all the way. I think so too. And
48:26
honestly, you know, it's it's so
48:28
refreshing when someone comes
48:30
on this podcast or on the show. You can just
48:33
tell they really are, who they are, and they don't
48:35
really put too much they
48:38
don't overthink
48:39
it. Right? And she just she just
48:41
seems to be having a good time
48:43
and, like, she came out here and she was having a good time.
48:45
So really rooting for her.
48:47
Yeah. I think her not putting so much
48:49
pressure on herself or anything
48:52
is really what's setting her apart
48:54
and probably what, you know, Zach likes so
48:56
much. For sure. Alright. Well, Joe,
48:58
thank you for having me today. And
49:00
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49:05
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