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I see her play for the first
1:47
time and I was like that
1:49
may be the biggest star I've
1:51
ever seen. You knew right then?
1:54
Right then. You get blood all
1:56
over you if you're all over
1:58
you. And you want that? That's
2:00
just the way it is.
2:03
Jesus, what a bunch of
2:05
redness. I like this, uh,
2:07
did you dress me or
2:10
did I dress you? Oh
2:12
yeah. What a great pleasure
2:14
to meet you. Hey, great
2:17
to see. Music royalty in
2:19
the house. Oh well, royalty.
2:21
Royalties, uh, careful with that
2:24
one. Are you, uh, here
2:26
for the Grammys or the
2:29
fire? We're doing, we're taping
2:31
idle tomorrow. But are you
2:33
involved in the Grammys this
2:35
year? It's coming up in
2:38
a minute, right? It's coming
2:40
up and kind of missed
2:42
out on some Grammy nominations
2:44
through the years. Sweetheart, you're
2:46
talking to the old time.
2:49
I've had 40 nominations and
2:51
they would never give it
2:53
to me. So, it's not
2:55
about me. Is it Susan
2:57
Luci? Is that the right
3:00
reference? I understand where it
3:02
comes from. Oh, ice there.
3:04
But, um, well, let's, what
3:06
could I, uh, CCC, I
3:09
haven't drank yet today. Yeah.
3:11
Because I'm on, I'm gonna
3:13
do vodka grapefruit. Oh, and,
3:15
uh. And you bring your
3:17
own grapefruit? No, you got,
3:20
provided. Good. Somebody, uh, one
3:22
of your people, uh, yeah.
3:24
I'll take that, I'll try
3:26
that one. Do a little
3:28
half shot, that. Sure. on
3:31
the staff who just handles
3:33
grapefruit. That's what a borer
3:35
I am, Luke. Are you
3:37
serious though? No, of course.
3:39
You're kidding. Well, I do.
3:42
Hell, I'll fix it and
3:44
say we're... What do you
3:46
have, like, a big-ass ranch,
3:48
I'm guessing? Bill, I, um,
3:51
really, fortunate. I... Cheers. Don't
3:53
be modest. Thank you for
3:55
coming. Thank you. I highly
3:57
overpored, but we'll fix that.
4:00
Now it's good. So my
4:02
business manager called me years
4:04
ago 2011 and one of
4:06
his one of his clients
4:09
in town had a farm
4:11
that was coming on the
4:13
market I had just started
4:15
getting to where I was
4:18
making a little money and
4:20
could start thinking about
4:22
a farm and a place to
4:24
kind of settle and we
4:27
Found a hundred. It's about a
4:29
hundred fifty acres about 20 minutes
4:31
south of Nashville Literally cow pastures
4:33
where you guys all live. I'm
4:36
surprised there's not much land still
4:38
available since everybody seems to have
4:40
the same fucking ranch with the
4:42
cow pasture Don't they butt up
4:44
against each other? Isn't like Brad
4:46
Paisley's cows always coming on your
4:48
land and car? Brad's got his
4:51
farm in the holler and the
4:53
holler and the holler He's kind
4:55
of in a holler, I'm in
4:57
some, I'm in a cow pasture,
4:59
I'll build up. I thought a holler
5:01
and the only thing I
5:03
know about a holler is
5:06
from the movie was Sissy's
5:08
Basic. Right. Where she played
5:10
Loretta Lynn? Right, a coal
5:12
miner's daughter. Butcher holler? Butcher
5:14
holler? I think you're holler.
5:16
I always thought a holler
5:18
was like a ghetto in
5:20
the country, like like really
5:22
a holler. A bad kind
5:25
of poor area, but country
5:27
version. Well. A
5:29
holler, the best way to
5:32
describe a holler is there's a
5:34
there's an old classic
5:36
song that Brad actually,
5:39
Brad Paisley actually,
5:41
re-recorded called You'll
5:44
Never Leave Harlan Alive
5:46
and it's the famous line is
5:49
the sun comes up about 10
5:51
in the morning and it goes
5:53
down about three in the day.
5:56
So a holler... is your you
5:58
got two mountains it's a
6:00
Essentially an Appalachian Valley It's what
6:02
a a gully a gully a
6:04
Glenn a Glenn or is it?
6:06
Well, you know like from Glenn
6:08
to Glenn You know that from
6:10
Danny boy, right? You know Danny
6:13
boy. Don't know Dan. Oh, come
6:15
on. Is that a so Danny
6:17
boy everybody oh Danny boy? The
6:19
same is that a is that
6:21
a musical? It's like the Irish
6:23
anthem Danny Boy, I'm sure. Hell,
6:25
I'm redneck, I don't know. Everybody
6:27
knows that no matter what color
6:29
their neck is. Go back to
6:31
your crew on Idol and ask
6:33
them about Danny Boy and they'll
6:35
all go and they'll all say.
6:37
Well, is it a musical? Oh,
6:39
Danny Boy. No, it's like it.
6:41
It's like the Irish traditional folk
6:43
song. It's with bagpipes, it's awful.
6:45
I've heard it. You've heard it.
6:47
I'm not probably singing it well,
6:49
but that to me is what
6:51
I feel like. Because you know,
6:53
I mean, Ireland, places like that,
6:55
that's my heritage. You know, very
6:58
similar in ways to Appalachia and,
7:00
you know, very rural, clanish. I
7:02
mean, the southern part of the
7:04
United States. has sort of its
7:06
character because it was founded and
7:08
populated by Scots and Irish. Have
7:10
you ever seen Gone With The
7:12
Wind? Certainly. Okay, Scarlet O'Hara. Right.
7:14
And her father has the Brog.
7:16
My Brian was an original, an
7:18
O'Brien. Oh, is that right? And
7:20
they moved the, and my mother
7:22
is adopted. So what was funny
7:24
is we never knew anything. I've
7:26
always had dark complexion and we
7:28
always thought that I had maybe
7:30
some Native American in here or
7:32
something like that, but we, I'm
7:34
33% Scandinavian and about 20% Irish.
7:36
So, another 2%? 2%? 2% what?
7:38
2% West, West African? You are.
7:41
Yeah. Oh, you had your thing
7:43
done? You had your... Wow! Two
7:45
percent in West... Yeah. Yeah. Well,
7:47
that didn't come over on the
7:49
May fly. That was such a
7:51
much worship. Yeah, we did some
7:53
bad things, but you know, the
7:55
good thing is, as Obama used
7:57
to say, the Ark. goes, bends
7:59
more toward justice. You know, we
8:01
keep, I think, basically getting better.
8:03
I mean, don't tell that to
8:05
the kids, because they like to
8:07
believe that things- I think- I
8:09
have to live with the hope
8:11
that we are getting better. I
8:13
believe it. You're sparking out over
8:15
there? It's hysterical that these things,
8:17
I say this every week, but
8:19
how did they burn down half
8:21
of Vietnam with these Zippo lighters?
8:23
I just can never get, I
8:26
get it at home, I put
8:28
the lighterer in, the fluid, the
8:30
fluid. and then I get here
8:32
and it never works. Here you
8:34
go. And I have to, but
8:36
I don't want that one. I
8:38
want, I want it to look
8:40
like this. Cool. These look, see
8:42
Bill, you even do the cool
8:44
flick? Cool, I can't even do
8:46
it with two hands. It's not
8:48
me, it's this fucking thing. I
8:50
don't know why I don't know
8:52
why, I don't know what I'm
8:54
doing. I may get a cigar.
8:56
You can. I mean, I never
8:58
understand when anyone sees season when
9:00
anyone sees them them, but if
9:02
they're them, but if it, but
9:04
if it, but if it, but
9:06
if it, but if it, but
9:08
if it, but if it, but
9:11
if it, but if it, but
9:13
if it, but if it, but
9:15
if it makes you have makes
9:17
you, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
9:19
I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm,
9:21
I'm, I'm, I want to, I
9:23
No, it's just a little recreational.
9:25
I don't know how to do
9:27
it that much. I mean, I'm
9:29
sure there are people who've sat
9:31
right there who do it all
9:33
day long, you know, but I
9:35
never was that kind of guy.
9:37
But for a special occasion with
9:39
a special person, it's great to
9:41
get to know you. You know,
9:43
I have to be honest, growing
9:45
up in New Jersey, you know,
9:47
country music was just not on
9:49
my radar. It's just not something
9:51
we did. So I'm slowly catching
9:53
up to it because like for
9:56
so long and it was my
9:58
fault I just wrote it off
10:00
as like that's just a different
10:02
kind of music that I don't
10:04
and then slowly I you know
10:06
starting like back in the 90s
10:08
with I remember Brooks and Dunn
10:10
and then Obama used to play
10:12
there only in America song which
10:14
I love this is not my
10:16
granddaddy's country you know it's a
10:18
great electric morphed into Americana and
10:20
with rock and roll and I
10:22
tell you when I go play
10:24
when I'm in Jersey when when
10:26
I'm up there in that part
10:28
of When I'm up
10:30
there in that part of the
10:33
world and I see... Part of
10:35
the world. Well, that's... Well, like
10:37
we're Eskimos. It's fucking New Jersey.
10:40
We have a turnpike. Look. We
10:42
have a turnpike. That you pay
10:44
a toll on. Oh, we pay
10:47
too many tolls. So... Too high
10:49
taxes. The, um... The... And when
10:51
I say that when you grow
10:54
up in South Georgia and you...
10:56
start your music journey, and then
10:58
you arrive in New Jersey, and
11:01
people are screaming your music. It's
11:03
one of the most proudest moments
11:05
you could have as a musician,
11:08
because, and what was my term
11:10
I use? Up there? What did
11:12
I just say? You people? That
11:15
part of the world. That part
11:17
of the world. That part of
11:19
the world. That unexplored foreign land.
11:22
Mark, grab me a cigar out
11:24
of my green bag, please, if
11:26
you get them in it. Done.
11:29
Sit here and let this man
11:31
smoke alone. Club cigarettes? That's where
11:33
I used to... call it because
11:36
I thought they wouldn't let me
11:38
do it but yes so again
11:40
we've changed so much 32 years
11:42
old thirty two years ago reluctantly
11:45
tried weed and man it's been
11:47
something that I've never never done
11:49
a lot of but I don't
11:52
have those stigmas reluctantly. Because man,
11:54
I grew up in the Bible
11:56
Belt where it was billed, it
11:59
was seriously. What does the Bible
12:01
say about it? Because I don't
12:03
remember anything. Well, I don't even
12:06
know why they called it the
12:08
Bible Belt until somebody explained it
12:10
to me. I don't remember anything.
12:13
I don't even know why they
12:15
called it the Bible Belt until
12:17
somebody explained it to me. I
12:20
don't remember anything about not sparking
12:22
up. you know, that it would
12:24
corrupt you or, you know, whatever
12:27
they've said later about it, that...
12:29
Well, oh... Devil's Week. No, no,
12:31
no, no. Gateway. Gateway. Well, actually,
12:34
it's funny, that's ironic, because the
12:36
Gateway drug is actually beer. Which
12:38
is... Well, and your parents beer.
12:41
Well, I mean, the love that
12:43
you country people have for beer.
12:45
It's just something I've never ever
12:48
seen on this earth. I mean
12:50
that the devotion to the singing
12:52
about it the incombium well and
12:55
I've I've hit a subject a
12:57
lot. I don't I never understand
12:59
that that the amount of songs
13:02
that well it's you know beer
13:04
is really ingrained in the culture
13:06
I mean we it's made a
13:09
grain. from the football aspects of
13:11
growing up in the South to
13:13
sharing your first beer with your
13:16
dad, to sneaking your first beer,
13:18
trying to buy your first beer,
13:20
you know, with a fake ID.
13:23
Wait, so you drank it with
13:25
your dad before you snook it?
13:27
Well, you know, when we were
13:30
kids, I think if we were
13:32
on a hunting trip or a
13:34
fishing trip, as a kid, you'd
13:37
have a beer. Well, you'd be,
13:39
you'd go, dad, what does beer
13:41
taste like? and your dad hands
13:44
you a bud wiser and you
13:46
taste it and spit it out
13:48
of the boat. But so I
13:51
just think it's it's a part
13:53
of our it's ingrained in our
13:55
culture as and it just It's
13:58
involved in when we play shows
14:00
and honky talks and the fabric
14:02
of, I mean, heck, when you
14:05
look at, there's a tear in
14:07
my beer, Hank, Hank Williams,
14:09
and that was 60 years ago,
14:11
so it's, beers, beers are pretty.
14:13
Yeah, no, it's almost liturgical. It's
14:16
almost like anointment, like a sacrament.
14:18
There's something almost... But did beer
14:20
not mean that? Was it not
14:22
that much? I hate beer. I
14:24
think beer is gross. I mean,
14:26
I've drunk way too much liquor
14:28
in my life. It wasn't beer.
14:30
I feel like beer is a
14:32
poor man's liquor. It's gassy. You
14:35
need to drink a shit load
14:37
of it to get high. You
14:39
know, I don't like wine either.
14:41
I think wine is another. something.
14:43
This shit's like 90. Get to
14:45
the point. Yes, it's so funny
14:47
you guys, you like beer and
14:50
moonshine. Either 3% alcohol
14:52
or 200. You're ingesting
14:54
3,000 calories or you're
14:56
blackout in 10 minutes.
14:58
You know Larry Flint
15:00
used to give me moonshine.
15:02
Larry Flint, remember him?
15:04
Yeah. Hustler guy. Club
15:06
random. I'm getting the random
15:09
now. The random is. Right.
15:11
Right we try to live up to
15:13
our name well, but I never like
15:15
beer I remember the I think it
15:17
was the first thing I ever drank
15:19
because I have a memory of being
15:22
I don't know 14 or something and
15:24
at night at night with a bunch
15:26
of other Naredo well Oh, we were
15:28
a rough gang there in New Jersey.
15:30
Oh, we grew up on the mean
15:32
streets well The mean circular driveways of
15:35
Bergen County, New Jersey. No, we weren't
15:37
rich at all, but it was, you
15:39
know, like lower middle class. We had
15:41
a little house. And so we went
15:43
on the golf course and drank rolling
15:46
rock beers, rolling rock. Did you have
15:48
that in this out? We had rolling
15:50
rock. They were called green grenades. They
15:52
were like little bottles. And I remember...
15:55
How old were y'o? Old enough that
15:57
I threw up. Yeah, of course. Your
15:59
body rejects every... every drug you
16:01
do at first, because you shouldn't
16:03
be doing it. Yeah, my first
16:06
beers were probably 15, 16, and
16:08
then we would, every now and
16:10
then we'd go get old English,
16:13
which was like a malt liquor
16:15
beer. I remember one called Southern
16:17
Comfort. Southern Comfort. Did you ever
16:20
do Bartles and James fuzzy navels?
16:22
No. You remember those things? I
16:24
remember Bartles and James, but I'm
16:27
not even sure. Was that liquor?
16:29
It was like a wine cooler.
16:31
It was like the first smearing
16:34
off ice. It was ten years
16:36
before smearing off ice. It was
16:38
ten years before smearing off ice.
16:41
There was zemas. You remember zemas?
16:43
Vaguely, yeah. No, there was that
16:45
terrible period when you're first drinking.
16:47
And you don't have a drink.
16:50
You know you see you got
16:52
to sample them you just drink
16:54
anything and they're down to what
16:57
you don't throw. I mean it's
16:59
just it's just not good not
17:01
to have a drink you know
17:04
James Bond had a drink right
17:06
vodka shaken not stirred you know
17:08
there was no that's a man
17:11
you don't want to be like
17:13
own planners punch whatever fucking and
17:15
the football players are endorsed I
17:18
mean it's hard not to start
17:20
you know I know but it's
17:22
like That's what you expect from
17:25
a young girl. You know, what
17:27
are you drinking? I don't know.
17:29
Okay. You know, just, you don't
17:32
want to be there with liquor.
17:34
You want to know. And then...
17:36
Listen, be glad. You probably didn't
17:39
do the... the Yeager bombs. Oh,
17:41
I did. I used to do
17:43
Yeager bombs. I remember doing, oh
17:46
my God, I can't even believe
17:48
I did this to myself. I
17:50
remember drinking, when I did finally
17:53
get a drink, it was Jack
17:55
Daniel for like 25 years. They
17:57
set me a plot of land,
18:00
like just a one-foot. That's how
18:02
much fucking Jack Daniels I was
18:04
barely consuming. And I remember drinking
18:07
all night at like a Playboy
18:09
Mansion party and then like at
18:11
three in the morning starting with
18:13
the Yeagermeister. I mean how could
18:16
my body have taken that? Bill
18:18
I didn't realize you had to
18:20
realize all this drinking was going
18:23
on and... Well that was certainly
18:25
wasn't every night but yeah but
18:27
I get it but Yeager bombs
18:30
were... I mean, and then you,
18:32
it is so terrible. The worst,
18:34
you know, and then so my
18:37
college drink very interesting crown and
18:39
water as a, as a 20,
18:41
I didn't get to college till
18:44
I was 21. Well, I'd gotten
18:46
a two year degree from a
18:48
small junior college and then transferred.
18:51
So I was 21. What did
18:53
you think you were going to
18:55
be? Man, I didn't think I'd
18:58
be this. No. See, see, I
19:00
did. See, I did. See, I
19:02
did. See, I did. Did you?
19:05
I thought you would be exactly
19:07
this. No, I thought I would,
19:09
I knew I was going to
19:12
be a comedian when I was
19:14
like eight years old. Well, I
19:16
knew I loved being on stage
19:19
and I knew I loved performing
19:21
and singing, but I think I
19:23
just, I knew that I had
19:26
to do college too. That was
19:28
really ingrained in me. Yeah, me
19:30
too. So I wasn't, you know,
19:33
I was at 21. But what
19:35
was your backup plan? My backup
19:37
plan would have been. You know
19:40
after I left college I was
19:42
playing in bars and at different
19:44
colleges all through the South East
19:46
and man it was fun and
19:49
shit We'd load up on the
19:51
weekends and we'd we'd go build
19:53
one market We'd go try to
19:56
do without us to Georgia and
19:58
then statesboro and then kind of
20:00
my hometown and we try to
20:03
start doing Athens and we we'd
20:05
play all these shows in Athens
20:07
Georgia and if you could get
20:10
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The Athens music scene, we
23:39
saw it out the Georgia theater
23:41
for the first time. Athens, I,
23:44
maybe I'm wrong, but I think
23:46
of Athens as alternative. I mean,
23:48
Athens is RAM. No doubt. No
23:50
doubt and B52's. Yeah. And but
23:52
listen, I mean. I think of
23:55
Athens as sort of the alternative
23:57
to Nashville's more mainstream.
23:59
It totally is. And there's
24:01
such amazing music coming out of,
24:04
you know, coming out of Athens,
24:06
but Bill, you got- You make
24:08
in Georgia, how about making? Making
24:11
shit. Well, that's more my era.
24:13
Like, they turned out a lot
24:16
of, like, what came out of-
24:18
Allman Brothers? Allman Brothers. What about
24:20
Leonard Skinner? Where's that from? Leonard
24:23
Skinner was, they're from Jacksonville. Oh,
24:25
yeah, that's right. Same thing. So,
24:28
man, you know, making, you got
24:30
James Brown. Oh, right. You got,
24:32
uh... Stacks records? Is that from,
24:35
is that not? Chapricorn records, a
24:37
guy named Phil Warren. Okay, where
24:40
was Stacks? Maybe. Stacks was Memphis.
24:42
Memphis. Memphis. Yeah. So, but yeah.
24:44
Shit, Bill. And then Elvis? Sun
24:47
Records. That's, you know, that's Memphis,
24:49
too. God, there's so many complexities
24:52
in all that southern music, but
24:54
you know, when I, when I,
24:56
when I started headline in the
24:59
Georgia Theater in Athens, in such
25:01
a, such, what you said, Athens
25:04
was a real diverse town, certainly,
25:06
and, and, and for me to
25:08
go in there and, and probably
25:11
way more politically liberal. Then your
25:13
standard Southern University was leading that
25:16
way at the time. For example,
25:18
I bet in the last election,
25:20
Nashville voted, you know, it's a
25:23
city, it's blue, so it's not
25:25
going to be like, but I
25:28
bet you're considering how Trump, how
25:30
well Trump did in places he
25:32
hadn't done that well in the
25:35
first time around, I bet you
25:37
Nashville was maybe 50-50 Trump for
25:39
her, whereas Athens, I bet you
25:42
was 70% for a Kamala Harris.
25:44
Just politically I think that's where
25:47
they are. Right now I think
25:49
Athens may have tilted back a
25:51
little a few years ago but
25:54
I couldn't argue with you on
25:56
that and... I don't know I
25:59
mean the South is... I mean,
26:01
I played Huntsville, Alabama, you know,
26:03
which is where NASA is. Right.
26:05
Yeah, I mean, that was, that
26:07
crowd was almost too
26:10
liberal for me. Yeah,
26:12
and Huntsville's one of
26:14
the fastest-growing, yeah. If
26:17
they're probably the number
26:19
one fastest-growing city in North
26:21
America or even, certainly, certainly
26:23
in the South, but Huntsville's
26:26
on fire. Yeah, I know.
26:28
We're not that sensitive about
26:30
it. Lord, Bill. No, we
26:33
are not on fire today.
26:35
But the Huntsville is
26:37
a great town. Well, why? Because
26:39
they're pouring a lot of
26:42
money into NASA or maybe
26:44
the space program. I think
26:46
the space program, I
26:48
think. But it's just a
26:50
lot of smart tech people
26:52
there. Because the space program
26:54
pulled a melting pot of
26:56
smart people from all walks of
26:58
life. Right. I guess 30 40 years
27:00
ago when the space program maybe
27:03
was really rocket in Huntsville
27:05
that pulled all the smartest
27:07
people right from India right
27:09
I mean it pulled everybody
27:11
to Huntsville well they're getting pulled
27:13
there for their brains and all
27:15
that but then 40 years later
27:18
those those ethnic you know different
27:20
cultures I think that little spot I
27:22
think that mixture is great. I
27:24
think that mixture is great. I think
27:26
that mixture is great. It's amazing. I
27:29
mean, eggheads, they should be in fucking
27:31
Alabama. You know, just because the people
27:33
are generally nicer. I mean, look,
27:36
if we get on to political issues,
27:38
are we going to have arguments about
27:40
some things? Yeah, we are. But, you
27:43
know, I keep preaching. You can't hate
27:45
people who disagree with you, except
27:47
about the most absolute... outrageous
27:49
things, but you can't hate them if
27:51
they like Trump. You can hate Trump,
27:53
I get that, I'm not a big
27:55
fan, but you can't hate them for
27:58
who they like. So like I... is
28:00
very good when those type of
28:02
people who normally would be at
28:04
Stanford or some other stifling place
28:06
with an equally obnoxious sort of
28:08
wokeness, that's Uber, Uber, Uber on
28:10
the left, get down to a
28:12
real place and talk to real
28:14
people and you'll see that they're
28:17
not monsters. And actually, in a
28:19
lot of ways, they're just more
28:21
fun to hang out with. They're
28:23
looser. They're not uptight you can
28:25
make jokes. They're not looking around
28:27
the room to see who's the
28:29
bigger name You know, there's a
28:31
lot to recommend it South's amazing.
28:33
Yeah, I wouldn't live there No,
28:36
I'm not but I really do
28:38
like it and I could I
28:40
I could there are places I
28:42
could live but I you know
28:44
I look with all the in
28:46
with the fire. I've been here
28:48
42 years bro. I'm dug in
28:50
yeah, and you know I came
28:52
from Georgia and then You know,
28:54
Georgia brought me obviously out here
28:57
with American Idol. Yeah, it's not
28:59
horrible out here, is it? Man,
29:01
it's amazing. I mean, it really
29:03
is. It's really that horrible to
29:05
go to the Tower Bar for
29:07
dinner? No. It's not bad at
29:09
all. And I really, I go
29:11
back home to Georgia and even
29:13
friends in Tennessee and they're like,
29:16
man, how crazy is it out
29:18
there in LA? And I'm like...
29:20
Man, it's not that crazy. There's
29:22
just good restaurants and... Yeah. I
29:24
mean, a lot of the people
29:26
are crazy. But they're show people.
29:28
And show people, they're just not...
29:30
You know, what I can't handle,
29:32
man, is just, I just hate
29:35
seeing homeless people struggle, man. When
29:37
I didn't grow up seeing homeless
29:39
people, and because it was like
29:41
in the South, churches would help...
29:43
churches would come together and help
29:45
sure of somebody struggling. That's the
29:47
kind of thing churches do. I
29:49
never denied it. I mean, I'm
29:51
an atheist. Well, but churches will
29:53
keep people, um, yeah, keep people
29:56
going and then you, as a
29:58
southern boy, you come out to
30:00
LA and I'm like, how can
30:02
we fix this? It is my
30:04
dream that every homeless person in
30:06
LA has their own holler. No.
30:08
But I think we could, you're,
30:10
you could fill a holler up.
30:12
Well, the homeless people out here
30:15
and I hate that because there's
30:17
no homeless and Nashville. Yeah, there,
30:19
there are. There are and it
30:21
and it's a problem. And what
30:23
is Nashville solution? Man, I think
30:25
they're trying to figure it out.
30:27
So that's what we're trying to
30:29
figure it out. And man, every,
30:31
you know, every crosswalk, I mean,
30:33
every red light stuff, there's a
30:36
homeless person sitting there. How many
30:38
anchors do you have on your
30:40
farm? 150. And you can't fit
30:42
any homeless there? Bill. No, I'm
30:44
fucking with that. That was amazing.
30:46
That was amazing. And so wrong
30:48
to do that to me. Hey,
30:50
I've got a lot of land
30:52
here too. And I'm not... This
30:55
fuckers got five acres up here.
30:57
No, I don't have five acres
30:59
up here. But I got a
31:01
nice little holler and... And you
31:03
know what? I'd love to invite
31:05
all the homeless, but I'm not
31:07
going to do it either, and
31:09
neither would anybody. I understand. Don't
31:11
ever shame me for not being
31:14
as good a person as you,
31:16
and don't pretend that you wouldn't
31:18
be inviting a potential nightmare in
31:20
your life, that also probably wouldn't
31:22
even benefit them. That's not the
31:24
answer that we have with the
31:26
homeless into our private residences. The
31:28
answer is that government, as you
31:30
said, should figure this out, and
31:32
the fact that they can is
31:35
ridiculous ridiculous ridiculous. I don't know
31:37
why, I know why we can't
31:39
hear, because everything is a bureaucratic
31:41
nightmare with too much red tape
31:43
and regulations. If I was king,
31:45
I would just make a giant,
31:47
or many, if I guess you
31:49
need that many, you know, shelters,
31:51
barracks. I'm sorry if you have
31:54
to live in barracks, but it's
31:56
better than living on the street.
31:58
And they do that and they
32:00
don't want to live there. There's
32:02
no security. Get some. I want
32:04
you to cost to put a
32:06
fucking guard on every aisle of
32:08
the barracks and make sure nobody
32:10
is robbing each other, have doctors,
32:12
to compare to like, they pay
32:15
for putting them up in hotel rooms.
32:17
That's what they do. They have mental
32:19
health people. Yes. I mean, they
32:21
do it on a ad hoc basis.
32:23
They've had. They usually do this in
32:26
third world countries, because America is now
32:28
often a third world country in some
32:30
ways. They have these big events for like
32:32
three days where they'll put up a
32:34
big tent in some place where there's
32:37
extreme poverty. And you can do this
32:39
in Ethiopia, but I've also seen it
32:41
done in Appalachia. And they have a
32:43
big tent and people from the area
32:45
know who cannot get... Their teeth
32:48
looked at her eyeglasses.
32:50
They come in and
32:53
it's like it's like
32:55
a renaissance fair except
32:58
you're getting your fucking
33:00
toothpole that is
33:03
killing you. I don't know
33:05
why that can't be a
33:07
semi-permanent version of that. I
33:10
agree with you. just get
33:12
them somewhere where they're not
33:15
in you know out there
33:17
hurting in the street I mean I
33:19
mean that's got to be just like
33:21
of all the answers that we could
33:23
come up with for this I feel
33:26
like bottom of the barrel is
33:28
stay on the street which seems
33:30
to be you know like that's
33:32
the ultra woke position is like
33:35
don't don't disturb them it's it's
33:37
like messing with a endangered species
33:39
that's in its natural habitat and
33:42
we can't That's the mental approach
33:44
to it seems to be wrong. And
33:46
by the way, it wasn't what liberals
33:49
believe 20 years ago. I do used
33:51
to do that show called Comic Relief.
33:53
Do you remember that AnH Yeal? That
33:56
Whoopi Goldberg and Billy Carstoy and Robert
33:58
Williams. And we are the... Well,
34:00
point of it was, let's get
34:02
these people. Y'all are my damn
34:04
base, I mean, y'all are a
34:06
weaved into what I learned comedy
34:08
as a kid. Really? Hell yeah.
34:10
What did you watch as a
34:13
kid? What was on? Like, what,
34:15
like you were a kid in
34:17
the 90s? Man, I was a
34:19
kid when thriller came out. 80s.
34:21
Yeah, that was early 80s. Yeah,
34:23
I mean, I was born in
34:25
76. Thriller? Thriller, oh my God.
34:27
What a what a moment. Yeah,
34:30
thriller was we, Bill, we would,
34:32
you know, thriller came out and
34:34
we would rush home from school
34:36
and we knew that certain increments
34:38
MTV was going to play the
34:40
thriller video. And we watched it
34:42
every time. And then we watched
34:44
foot loose. So you thought, so
34:46
Michael Jackson was, oh my God,
34:49
when, when my family members would
34:51
have, you know, a bunch of
34:53
people come in the house. my
34:55
dad and my mother and my
34:57
brother and my sister, they would
34:59
make me dance like Michael Jackson
35:01
in front of strangers. Yeah. See,
35:03
I'm always trying to prosecute this
35:06
argument that America is just much
35:08
more complicated than the two sides
35:10
who were always screaming each other
35:12
would allow. It's just like, these
35:14
things that, you know, you might
35:16
not suspect. I had this special
35:18
that's running now, and then I
35:20
talk about J.D. Vance's grandmother, who
35:22
told him when he was eight
35:25
years old and thought he might
35:27
be gay, because he only had
35:29
boyfriends, and she says to him,
35:31
you know, do you like to
35:33
suck Dix? Do you want to
35:35
suck Dix? And he said, J.
35:37
Vance's grandmother said that. Yeah, because
35:39
he was saying, my gray grandma.
35:42
And she said, do you want
35:44
to suck Dix? And he said,
35:46
then you're not gay. But even
35:48
if you did, God would still
35:50
love you. J.D. Vance told you
35:52
that? No, no, it's in his
35:54
book. Wow. Um, hillbiliology. Right, well,
35:56
I've heard the, um... And the
35:59
point is, like... I've heard, you
36:01
know, the... movie getting around that
36:03
he wrote it but I hadn't
36:05
had a chance to sit down
36:07
and watch it and did a
36:09
run Howard made it into a
36:11
movie right did that was Amy
36:13
Adams I haven't seen either I
36:15
just read the part about the
36:18
dick well I got you but
36:20
I just think you know coming
36:22
from his grandmother who was born
36:24
in Kentucky in 1933 America is
36:26
just not as easily pigeonholed as
36:28
they would want to make it
36:30
And see, I know this because
36:32
I've traveled this country. Me too.
36:35
For over 40 years. Right, everybody's
36:37
got their differences. But they're basically
36:39
the same. You're down right, they
36:41
are. You know, and... Because you
36:43
know what they don't want to
36:45
do? I mean, they want to
36:47
come to great music. They want
36:49
to see all kinds of great
36:51
music, from rap, to country, to
36:54
damn. They just want to come
36:56
out, spend their harder money, and
36:58
they want their tax dollars. To
37:00
look like it's helping the country
37:02
and also I got to say
37:04
don't you agree? I totally agree
37:06
I mean man I've looked at
37:08
the From when I moved to
37:11
Nashville and made zero to what
37:13
I make now and I paid
37:15
a ton of taxes and man
37:17
I just want to see it
37:19
I just want to be able
37:21
to go That's my damn tax
37:23
dollars working right there. That's helping
37:25
people and making the Making the
37:28
country a better place, but I've
37:30
never I've yet to see buddy.
37:32
I live in a state with
37:34
13% tax on every year and
37:36
I just had to endure a
37:38
fire That would have happened anyway,
37:40
but could have been handled a
37:42
lot better But my 13% was
37:44
not used wisely. I know door
37:47
was any do well. Yes, I
37:49
do gosh. That's what I'm saying
37:51
is I do, but you know
37:53
We just are in this place
37:55
where people are locked into these
37:57
They're brainwashed on both sides like
37:59
a certain percentage of them. I
38:01
can't get through to them I
38:04
can't get through the ones who
38:06
are supposedly on my team I
38:08
mean, I've said to people right
38:10
in that chair, you know, like,
38:12
we voted for the same person.
38:14
It's just that you or why
38:16
she lost, because... Well, and, you
38:18
know, she, I don't, I don't
38:20
know, it was, it's been a
38:23
crazy, you know, you look from
38:25
the... It's just been a crazy
38:27
political time in my life. It's
38:29
only getting crazier, and yet, you
38:31
know, I just will not sit
38:33
there and stand for... America sucks
38:35
and you know like a lot
38:37
of a lot of what you
38:40
see and it just comes from
38:42
rank ignorance I mean they're just
38:44
so ignorant they have no idea
38:46
what anywhere else in the world
38:48
is actually like they just know
38:50
this is the worst place and
38:52
that we're irredeemable and racist from
38:54
the beginning and that will never
38:56
change even though it's changed immeasurably
38:59
all that kind of stuff that's
39:01
what they know but you know
39:03
I'm just always amazed at with
39:05
what all were dragon behind us,
39:07
not just the over-bureaucracy and the
39:09
taxes that don't go to the
39:11
right things, but you know, like
39:13
really kind of losing democracy now
39:16
and how somehow somehow the economy
39:18
is all based on two things,
39:20
cryptocurrency, and rich men paying women
39:22
on the internet to do something
39:24
while they masturbate. That's the intent.
39:26
And yet we keep going America?
39:28
It's like my dog Chico. He
39:30
should be 17. He should be
39:33
dead. He's out there barking at
39:35
nothing right now. He would just
39:37
I do America right just keep
39:39
going You know, it's hard to
39:41
make a place like this go
39:43
though. It's we're irrepressible though Like
39:45
we can't I was thinking about
39:47
that a couple days ago in
39:49
your light Man, it's hard to
39:52
keep The different people in this
39:54
country, it's hard to keep them
39:56
in check with all their little
39:58
with all their little spots. from
40:00
the South and the Northeast and
40:02
in the Midwest and what the
40:04
Midwest claims they're great at
40:07
like basketball or something and then
40:09
you get the South say I
40:11
mean just from sports and culture
40:14
and all that and then you
40:16
throw and music. Look at all
40:18
the crossover between rap.
40:20
R&B now with music, I
40:23
mean, Beyonce having the big
40:25
country album. Right. I mean,
40:27
who's the Shaboosi? Yeah, I
40:30
mean. But that comes from
40:32
you liking Michael Jackson when
40:35
you were six. Exactly. Yeah.
40:37
And that's what, but that's
40:39
what this country, this
40:41
country made that, hey.
40:44
Where's my bowler? But no,
40:46
this country made, made all that
40:48
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46:09
been a hit in the 70s or
46:11
even the late 60s when I first
46:14
started to listen to music you know
46:16
it's just got that feel and then
46:18
like you know Nikki Glazer was
46:20
here she's like you know she's
46:22
the biggest jealous whip van she's
46:24
went to the show 18 times
46:27
Unbelievable. And then, but
46:29
her personality would, you would
46:31
think, because she's such a great
46:33
dominating female personality, her personality
46:35
you would think she would
46:38
not like Taylor Swift. And
46:40
then you find out she's like,
46:42
gone to her show 18 times,
46:45
right? Did you have Nicki Pegg
46:47
to be like a Taylor Swift?
46:49
Yeah, because I know Nicki for
46:51
a long time. I did. Oh
46:53
yeah. And well, Taylor Swift must
46:55
be doing some Vulcan mine melt
46:57
to the women. There must be
47:00
some estrogen-laden sort of vibe that's
47:02
some evil ray, not evil. It's
47:04
not evil, but it is a
47:06
ray, okay? It is a ray
47:08
that's going out to all women.
47:10
And they, so it makes them
47:13
think that this music is,
47:15
it's not terrible music. I
47:17
just don't get it, that
47:19
it's like, why it has
47:21
been elevated to this level, when
47:23
it seems to me fairly
47:25
run of the mill? I mean,
47:27
it's not, again, not bad. Listen.
47:29
But I watched, Nikki said, you
47:32
gotta watch, you'll catch up on
47:34
her whole overra, watch the concert
47:36
film, and I did. all 19
47:38
hours of it and and you
47:41
know I was really struggling because
47:43
I always want to like everything
47:45
like I'm just a customer I
47:47
have no musical ability I'm just
47:50
the young man in the 22nd
47:52
listen do you know why Taylor
47:54
Swift is that big? Tell me
47:56
man when she first started
47:58
it was right when social media
48:01
where you could talk to your
48:03
fans. Well 2009 was the smartphone
48:05
and that was her first year
48:07
maybe so I think. Well Taylor's
48:09
will so I was going to
48:11
I was going on a radio
48:13
tour for my first single and...
48:16
Heartbreak hotel? Shit. No. Oh that's
48:18
Elvis. You remind me. You remind
48:20
me. I'll take the compliment. It
48:22
is a compliment. I got, I
48:24
get to, I have to fly
48:26
out and meet a radio station
48:28
up in the north, up in
48:30
the northwest, and first time I'd
48:33
ever been to the northwest, and
48:35
it was just beautiful, just gorgeous,
48:37
the two, you know, the two
48:39
volcanic mountains in the background, my
48:41
ass was fired up to be
48:43
up there in the northwest. Well,
48:45
I go to this little nightclub,
48:48
it's Halloween night. And my song
48:50
my first single all my friends
48:52
say had not come out of
48:54
the radio, but I just went
48:56
to go see a concert and
48:58
Taylor Swift was on this on
49:00
this Halloween night. She was on
49:03
this radio show and I had
49:05
just heard the song Tim McGraw
49:07
for the first time and It
49:09
was interesting to me when I
49:11
heard that song and I remember
49:13
thinking. The song called Tim McGraw?
49:15
She wrote a song called Tim
49:18
McGraw. How confusing? Someone like me,
49:20
who's just learning about country music,
49:22
is a song by a country
49:24
store called another country store. But
49:26
go ahead. Okay, Tim McGraw. So
49:28
she, um... It's like moves like
49:30
jagger. Totally. It was made to
49:33
Tim and man, she crushed it
49:35
with that song. Right. And so
49:37
I'm standing there at that bar.
49:39
And the radio station brings her
49:41
out and I see her play
49:43
for the first time. And she's
49:45
got an angel costume on with
49:47
a little butterfly wings and a
49:50
little sparkly guitar and like a
49:52
little halo. And I'm sitting there
49:54
watching this girl sing. And man,
49:56
I was like, that may be
49:58
the biggest star I've ever seen.
50:00
You knew right then? Right then.
50:02
Because? Because she just had it.
50:05
Right. I mean, she had the
50:07
outfit? Oh, she does put on
50:09
a great show. She had. You
50:11
know, I feel bad every time
50:13
Tell Westiff comes up. I have
50:15
to like be honest about it.
50:17
I don't quite get the music,
50:20
although I like Sparks Fly. Well,
50:22
yeah, yeah, you do. Well, she
50:24
got you on that one. Yeah,
50:26
that one. Yeah, she did. Yeah,
50:28
she did. So that's all it
50:30
takes? Well it's not all it
50:32
takes because obviously I've heard the
50:35
other ones and didn't get it.
50:37
There was one I liked in
50:39
the concert. What? Other than Sparks
50:41
Fly, because you already like that.
50:43
Something all, all those years ago
50:45
are all, I don't know, I
50:47
forget, it was pretty good. But
50:50
really, I mean, there's a lot
50:52
of singing on a roof with
50:54
moss that I got. Listen, so
50:56
she, when she, right after I
50:58
saw her, right after I saw
51:00
her. in that Halloween show, you
51:02
know, the world on the street
51:04
was she was out there talking
51:07
to all her fans on socials.
51:09
Nobody ever did it more than
51:11
her. No, I mean, she earned
51:13
every... She worked her butt off
51:15
and earned those fans. Right. Well,
51:17
and here's to her butt, but
51:19
I just want to say, like...
51:22
And this is a backhanded, no,
51:24
you are not, well first of
51:26
all, this show is about ramble,
51:28
so it couldn't be bad. But,
51:30
like, this sounds like a backhanded
51:32
compliment, but I admire her, yeah,
51:34
the music, either works or it
51:37
doesn't, but as a human, I
51:39
have great admiration because to be
51:41
that far up in the stratosphere
51:43
and not be doing anything stupid.
51:45
Being still a good role model
51:47
basically, you know, she's had a
51:49
bunch of boyfriends boyfriends. Boyfriends. I
51:52
mean, when you're what is she
51:54
30 and the people are like
51:56
34 friends are the worst you'd
51:58
say excuse me girlfriend She's 35.
52:00
Yeah, but the only thing people
52:02
can say about is she's had
52:04
boyfriend. No, I guess she goes
52:07
to the lands. Travis Kelsey. Well,
52:09
first of all, and then it's
52:11
like, oh my God, she's pressured
52:13
it. I don't want to go
52:15
back to this, but I did
52:17
this once, I think, on my
52:19
show, and it's pretty funny. I'm
52:22
only being facetious, but like, all
52:24
these boyfriends, and like, to be
52:26
that famous, where we actually could
52:28
nay, I could nay, I don't
52:30
even, I'm not even a fan,
52:32
and I can name all her
52:34
boyfriends, because I'm the. I'm just
52:36
going to say, you just named
52:39
that, you're, you just named, you're,
52:41
you just named, you couldn't name
52:43
two of her songs, but you
52:45
know, all, exactly. That says a
52:47
lot. You know, you just, I
52:49
don't know, all the boyfriends you
52:51
just rambled off. None of them
52:54
are black. Oh God. I'm just
52:56
going to say. Couldn't we shouldn't
52:58
we really in this day and
53:00
age have one in there? I
53:02
mean, and then she goes to
53:04
the NFL, which is 80% black
53:06
and finds a white cat. I
53:09
mean, you don't even look that
53:11
hard. I mean, for God's sakes,
53:13
especially on defense. All right, that's
53:15
again, facetious, but no. I mean,
53:17
I'm not saying it's, she's, This
53:19
is with Travis Kelsey. Which is
53:21
crazy. First of all, that's going
53:24
to add. But then their table
53:26
is like... That's going to end.
53:28
Oh, I don't know. You want
53:30
to make a bet? I don't
53:32
want to make a bet, but
53:34
what's funny. Okay. As soon as
53:36
there's tabloid, like Taylor and Travis
53:39
Kelsey's mom, I agree. And I'm
53:41
like, what do we do? I
53:43
want to go on record as
53:45
saying, but not going either one
53:47
of them. I think they're both
53:49
fine. A-Sapp and Rocky. No. But
53:51
look, Travis is not the keeper.
53:53
He's just not. I mean, he's
53:56
not... He's not yet ready to
53:58
be house trained. He's not. And
54:00
he's going to be coming off
54:02
and on the Super Bowl. I'm
54:04
not getting into any of that.
54:06
Of course you shouldn't. But I'm
54:08
just telling you, he's you 20
54:11
years ago with more liquor in
54:13
him. I mean, it's just, you
54:15
know, think about what you were
54:17
20 years ago, right? Well. Is
54:19
that, are you married? Yes, I
54:21
am. Yes, I am. How long?
54:23
18 years just wow yeah 18
54:26
years of marriage that's just it's
54:28
amazing we celebrated well hell we
54:30
just celebrated it in December and
54:32
hey so how did you know
54:34
she was the one man I
54:36
just walked into you know she
54:38
walked into a bar and there
54:41
she was and it was just
54:43
like that one right there that's
54:45
so interesting and it was a
54:47
college bar a college bar that
54:49
you know that if my brother
54:51
doesn't pass away I never go
54:53
to that college and then if
54:56
you lost your brother right I
54:58
lost my brother and then that
55:00
sent me down this path and
55:02
then I meet Caroline and we
55:04
kind of date on and all
55:06
through college but it wasn't time
55:08
and we kind of broke up
55:10
at the end of college and
55:13
then it was five and a
55:15
half years till we got back
55:17
together and man that five and
55:19
a half years I went to
55:21
Nashville and got my career going.
55:23
I did all kind of crazy
55:25
shit, you know, drinking. Like I
55:28
said, I told you, I started
55:30
college drinking crown and water. Who
55:32
the hell is 21 and just,
55:34
well, that's all they drink. Crown
55:36
and water? Are you kidding me?
55:38
I had Gerald Hall of Polonote
55:40
here. What the hell they drink?
55:43
Well, they don't drink anything together
55:45
because they're suing each other. Oh
55:47
God, they need to get over
55:49
that shit too. Yeah, they put
55:51
out some great records. Dude, every
55:53
time I party, I listen to
55:55
You Make My Dreams come true.
55:58
Wow. It's the greatest. No, they
56:00
were... We ought to rock. We
56:02
ought to play that. Now I'm
56:04
sorry, but I asked at the
56:06
end. For our careers, which is
56:08
shortly after. Yeah, about 930. No,
56:10
we're fine. But... Yeah, but you
56:13
make my... But I said to
56:15
him, like, how did... Because like,
56:17
back in the day, I mean,
56:19
he was a real matinee idol-looking
56:21
guy, and you know, plus that
56:23
falsetto and the voice, and I
56:25
said, how does a rock star,
56:27
you know, with all the women,
56:30
throwing themselves out, you... I
56:32
mean, how do you resist?
56:34
And he said... It's impossible.
56:36
Yeah, poor guy, right. Well,
56:38
man, you know, hall of
56:41
notes and heck. So anyway,
56:43
just me and my wife, we
56:45
got, you know, three kids
56:47
at home with us. And
56:49
so circling back to that,
56:52
it's, it's just been an
56:54
amazing ride with my
56:56
family and my life, my
56:58
dad boys. My nephew came to
57:00
live with us when he was.
57:03
13 and he's now 23. Nephew.
57:05
Nephew. Till. Well that's where he
57:07
was my sister's son. Oh that's
57:09
beautiful. And then I got we
57:12
got our 16 year old Bo
57:14
and got a 14 year old
57:16
named Tate's the three boys and
57:19
then those are rough ages 16
57:21
and 14. I'm guessing I don't
57:23
have kids. It's it's pretty amazing
57:25
though. You know they're but aren't
57:28
they too into the viral I
57:30
mean the virtual world. You
57:32
know what's crazy. Fortnight, man.
57:34
Fortnight. Yeah. Jesus. I wouldn't
57:37
know what if I tripped over it,
57:39
but I certainly have heard a lot
57:41
about it, and I vaguely know. I certainly
57:44
know it's not real. It's
57:46
something they're playing. Man. Right. Dude.
57:48
But these kids love it. I
57:50
know. My son for Christmas, you
57:53
know, gets the whole new,
57:55
like, processor to process the
57:57
speed of this damn thing
57:59
for Christmas. It's got all these
58:01
light-up fans on the back and
58:03
he gets set of headphones a
58:05
new keyboard and a mouse And
58:08
he looks like a he's on
58:10
a turntable And they're they're talking
58:12
to their friends on headsets And
58:14
talking shit and cussing but see
58:16
and then I have to go
58:18
in there and I mean they're
58:21
they're into that fortnight getting them
58:23
out of their virtual world is
58:25
becoming more and more of an
58:27
impossible task. I mean this is
58:29
the same thing that's going on
58:32
in their sex lives because look
58:34
at the success of Only Fans.
58:36
I mean Only Fans is a
58:38
bunch of guys who must know
58:40
in some part of their brain
58:42
that this girl, that they're paying,
58:45
is not really their girlfriend, not
58:47
even the person who's actually texting
58:49
back to them. That's some fat
58:51
guy in the Philippines. and they
58:53
don't seem to care. They would
58:56
rather do that than have a
58:58
real girlfriend or do whatever it
59:00
takes to get a real girlfriend.
59:02
I feel this is not going
59:04
to come out well. Well, you
59:06
know, we just, I don't know
59:09
what those guys are up to,
59:11
but you know, you just got
59:13
to teach your doing kids to
59:15
go try to be funny in
59:17
class and work hard to study
59:20
and keep your... I don't know,
59:22
man. Do things, with them in
59:24
the outdoors? I mean, do I?
59:26
Yeah. That's all we do? Oh,
59:28
what about the fortnight? Well, that's
59:30
how I get them away from
59:33
that. Oh, I see. Man, I've
59:35
taken my kids on, we go
59:37
on every hunting and fishing trip
59:39
together. So that's good. You still
59:41
murder innocent creatures with your family
59:44
members. Thank God, that tradition lives.
59:46
It lives. with our family and
59:48
man we have a lot. What
59:50
do you hunt? Man we hunt.
59:52
Do you eat what you hunt?
59:54
Yeah, you know, we certainly. do
59:57
and okay like said so then
59:59
I approve oh man but it's
1:00:01
not like well what's you know
1:00:03
Bill we go on an annual
1:00:05
elk hunt with my me and
1:00:08
my three boys and we kill
1:00:10
a couple of elk a year
1:00:12
and we get it processed at
1:00:14
some elk dude out in uh
1:00:16
you got an elk man you've
1:00:19
got an elk processor yeah I
1:00:21
got an elk man Well, listen,
1:00:23
process is male. So listen, then,
1:00:25
I'm at my farm one day,
1:00:27
and I see this huge refrigerator
1:00:29
truck pull up to my farm.
1:00:32
And I'm like, what the hell
1:00:34
is this? It's a giant truck.
1:00:36
And I run up there to
1:00:38
the side of it. And I
1:00:40
said, Mayor, why are you here?
1:00:43
He goes, you Mr. Bryan? And
1:00:45
I said, yeah. I'm delivering your
1:00:47
help me. And I'm like shit,
1:00:49
I never knew that's how it
1:00:51
got to my farm. It just
1:00:53
always showed up in our refrigerator
1:00:56
in the garage and But I
1:00:58
met the guy that delivers it.
1:01:00
Well, turns out this dude's has
1:01:02
a business Where he picks up
1:01:04
everybody's wild game That they go
1:01:07
that they go do in a
1:01:09
oh totally so Am I blowing
1:01:11
your mind with this? I'm listening.
1:01:13
He picks up his, it blew
1:01:15
my mind, this guy's job is
1:01:17
to take his fridge-roaded truck, pick
1:01:20
everybody's game up, and deliver it
1:01:22
to their house. And man, we,
1:01:24
you know, we eat, we eat
1:01:26
all of our elk every year.
1:01:28
I had a girlfriend in the
1:01:31
late 80s, early 90s, and her
1:01:33
father was military. You know, he
1:01:35
was a hunter, and I remember
1:01:37
spending time there, and eating a
1:01:39
lot of elk. But would you
1:01:41
think about it? I thought you
1:01:44
know if you're going to the
1:01:46
fucking supermarket and buying a package
1:01:48
of meat You're no, you know,
1:01:50
let's not get each other either
1:01:52
you're eating meat or you're not
1:01:55
and yeah if you're gonna eat
1:01:57
it probably even better if you
1:01:59
kill it yourself they don't process
1:02:01
it you know it's not like
1:02:03
animals don't kill each other that's
1:02:05
always been my moral justification I
1:02:08
just don't believe in torturing animals
1:02:10
until we kill them man I
1:02:12
don't think you need to torture
1:02:14
them but they do that's what
1:02:16
factory farming farming is torturing pigs
1:02:19
and chickens and cows until, it's
1:02:21
just like, well, you know, there's
1:02:23
a lot of gray area and
1:02:25
all that. I mean, I would
1:02:27
imagine agriculture in America is disgusting.
1:02:30
Well, they got to, they got
1:02:32
to work on it. I think
1:02:34
so. They got to work harder.
1:02:36
Well, they do. And don't. They
1:02:38
don't care. It's profit. Why are
1:02:40
you friends in the pig industry?
1:02:43
Man, I got friends everywhere. Okay.
1:02:45
Well, you should tell them. I
1:02:47
got friends in the pig industry.
1:02:49
Well, tell them to put a
1:02:51
crowbar in their wallet and pry
1:02:54
out $10 million, and they won't
1:02:56
live any worse if they don't
1:02:58
fucking torture the pigs before, because
1:03:00
pigs are very smart. They know
1:03:02
what's happening. Well, I know people
1:03:04
in the pig industry, and I'll
1:03:07
take that info again. Listen. You
1:03:09
didn't think you were going to
1:03:11
get confronted on that, on this
1:03:13
episode of 60 minutes, did you
1:03:15
know, right? I think that's what
1:03:18
it's all about. Here in your
1:03:20
side, my thoughts on, like I
1:03:22
said, with the elk stuff, I,
1:03:24
it just, uh, elk is lean,
1:03:26
right? Very lean, and all of
1:03:28
the stuff of wild game, and
1:03:31
you know. cattle and all that
1:03:33
and then like I said I'm
1:03:35
not even this guy that how
1:03:37
do you eat your elk do
1:03:39
you man we we get most
1:03:42
of it in hamburger so you
1:03:44
make it like a burger out
1:03:46
of it we'll do burgers and
1:03:48
then taco night and spaghetti night
1:03:50
or bowling a's night oh man
1:03:52
we don't ever buy ground beef
1:03:55
anymore right and it's But like
1:03:57
I said, I mean, I- So
1:03:59
when you go out there to
1:04:01
murder the, murder, murder, I love
1:04:03
it. I love it. So you're
1:04:06
there with your boys. Man, let
1:04:08
me- You all got a gun.
1:04:10
We got a boat. You see?
1:04:12
We're bow hunting. Oh, really? Is
1:04:14
that true? 100%. Why? Because it
1:04:16
makes it more of a sport?
1:04:19
Because the animal is like, I
1:04:21
respect you. Before he goes? Here's
1:04:23
the deal, man. When you have
1:04:25
these, you know, elk or a
1:04:27
herd animal. Yeah. Well, if you
1:04:30
go up to an elk herd
1:04:32
and you have a gun, it's
1:04:34
not hard at all to shoot
1:04:36
an elf. It's unfair. I wouldn't
1:04:38
say it's unfair. Oh, please. Well,
1:04:40
listen, I mean, we as humans,
1:04:43
we have the knowledge to make
1:04:45
hunting unfair, you know. Well, it's
1:04:47
unfair to begin with. First of
1:04:49
all, to call it a sport,
1:04:51
it's a sport if a sport
1:04:54
was the case where one team
1:04:56
didn't even know the game was
1:04:58
going on and the other team
1:05:00
had all the... They do. I
1:05:02
mean, the other team knows the
1:05:05
game was going on. They don't
1:05:07
know a guy's in there with
1:05:09
a rifle. But look, they see
1:05:11
you and they run off and
1:05:13
man. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah,
1:05:15
that's true. So, but why do
1:05:18
that's do that. The kids do
1:05:20
that. The kids have failure. The
1:05:22
kids have failure. failures in hunting.
1:05:24
That's the big thing about hunting.
1:05:26
I mean they can figure out,
1:05:29
they can figure out a, you
1:05:31
know, the codes, hell there's cheek
1:05:33
codes and they can go figure
1:05:35
out. What if you just, if
1:05:37
you shoot at the, with your
1:05:39
arrow, you shoot at the elk,
1:05:42
but you just nick his ear
1:05:44
like Trump. Man, if you, if
1:05:46
you, nick an elk in the
1:05:48
ear. It don't even
1:05:50
know it that might as well
1:05:52
have been a mosquito bite to
1:05:55
them where because I mean they're
1:05:57
a tough animal, but it's tough
1:05:59
if you if you just wing
1:06:01
it and it's got the arrow
1:06:03
when it runs off because then
1:06:05
it's got to live with the
1:06:07
arrow. It gets home and the
1:06:09
wife is like, what happened? Dude,
1:06:11
you can you can you can
1:06:13
hit an elk not properly and
1:06:15
that elk's fine. Yeah, look, they're
1:06:17
so tough. I mean, and then
1:06:19
the beauty of bow hunting and
1:06:21
all that is when when it
1:06:23
comes together perfectly. and the elk
1:06:25
doesn't suffer, the elk runs 20
1:06:27
yards and then at that point
1:06:29
you've got to pack the elk
1:06:31
off the mountain. Okay, so Bill,
1:06:33
check this out. Okay. You go
1:06:36
through all that. Well, then the
1:06:38
work, you know, you have hiked
1:06:40
eight miles a day for four
1:06:42
days, you shoot an elk. He
1:06:44
elk dies right there, clean, you're
1:06:46
like, perfect shot. Then you got
1:06:48
to pack that down saying five
1:06:50
miles off the mountain. What do
1:06:52
you mean, pack it? You've got
1:06:54
to quarter it up in the
1:06:56
field. Quarter it up. Quarter it
1:06:58
up. Cut it. Cut it into
1:07:00
quarters. Cut it into quarters. What
1:07:02
do you use for that? Knives
1:07:04
and... Bin Salmon's bone saw? No,
1:07:06
you know, you just get real
1:07:08
sharp blades and you carve the
1:07:10
animal up. It's right through the
1:07:12
ribs and every other... Man, you
1:07:15
don't, you go along the ribs
1:07:17
for the back strap, you quarter
1:07:19
out, you do leave the ribs
1:07:21
and the carcass, the neck, but
1:07:23
your shoulders from here, your back
1:07:25
straps, your tenderloins, and then all
1:07:27
the... What do you do with
1:07:29
the head? Whoever killed it toots
1:07:31
the head out, that's the heaviest
1:07:33
part. What do you put it
1:07:35
in like a hat box? No,
1:07:37
you total on your shoulders. The
1:07:39
head? The head? The head. What
1:07:41
do you mean toad it on
1:07:43
you? What do you put it
1:07:45
in? No, you um... You get
1:07:47
blood all over you if you...
1:07:49
All over you. And you want
1:07:51
that? That's just the way it
1:07:53
is. Jesus, what a bunch of
1:07:56
redness. And I mean that in
1:07:58
a good way, but wow. Really,
1:08:00
you want the blood all over
1:08:02
you? Hey. with your boys, right?
1:08:04
You all got your bows ready.
1:08:06
Does one guy, do you decide
1:08:08
one guy takes this shot or
1:08:10
do you all empty your
1:08:12
clip like the LA
1:08:15
Police Department? No, really.
1:08:17
Does one guy take
1:08:19
the shot? Do you all take
1:08:22
the shot at the same
1:08:24
time? Man. What? I'm asking.
1:08:26
Well, with us, we, you
1:08:28
know, um... Like, said my nephew the
1:08:30
first year, he, uh, it was, it was
1:08:32
his turn and not everybody gets an elk
1:08:35
every year. Oh, I see, it's his turn.
1:08:37
What's that? It's his turn. You said it.
1:08:39
You go by turns. You said it was his
1:08:41
turn to shoot the elk. My nephews, yes,
1:08:43
sir. Yeah. So, like, now he got that
1:08:45
one next year, it's your turn or one
1:08:47
of the other boys? Yes, sir. Wow. Well,
1:08:49
again, I can't judge it, I can't judge
1:08:52
it, because I can't judge it, because I
1:08:54
can't judge it, because I eat meat, because
1:08:56
I eat meat, because I eat meat. Because
1:08:58
I eat meat. What I'm telling
1:09:00
you I will I don't judge
1:09:02
it. I only judge torturing animals
1:09:04
not not killing them They kill
1:09:07
each other, you know, to me.
1:09:09
That's a moral position I
1:09:11
know my friends at PETA and
1:09:13
I'm a board member and
1:09:15
yeah, I know they don't
1:09:18
agree. They're vegetarians, but look
1:09:20
the science Frankly is
1:09:22
just not out on that There's
1:09:24
no real evidence that we
1:09:26
shouldn't be eating meat as
1:09:29
human creatures. You know, our ancestors
1:09:31
did it. And... Well, I mean, you know,
1:09:34
I think there's so much,
1:09:36
there's so much stuff out there.
1:09:38
I think people just do
1:09:40
what they gotta do to
1:09:42
survive in their different environments.
1:09:44
And... Yeah, it's also an
1:09:46
economic issue. Poor people. Eat it
1:09:49
McDonald's for a reason. Because
1:09:51
it fills you up. It
1:09:53
tastes great. It kills you eventually,
1:09:55
but, you know. People are
1:09:58
thinking about the end of the month.
1:10:00
end of their life, you
1:10:02
know, and, uh, but no,
1:10:04
I don't, I'm, look, I
1:10:06
always loved playing the Red
1:10:08
States because I would get
1:10:10
a crowd that was hip,
1:10:13
smart, but didn't have that
1:10:15
fucking woke stick up their
1:10:17
ass, you know, you know,
1:10:19
and you felt that in
1:10:21
some cities, you know, it,
1:10:24
it got better in recent
1:10:26
years, even in like, woke
1:10:28
places like San Francisco, because
1:10:30
the crowd... understood that I
1:10:32
was going to give them
1:10:34
what we agree on, which
1:10:37
is we're not conservatives, but
1:10:39
we don't just pretend that
1:10:41
woke nonsense isn't nonsense. And
1:10:43
they want to hear that.
1:10:45
I mean, Trump is changing
1:10:48
America in the last two
1:10:50
days, like overnight. And look,
1:10:52
I didn't agree with a
1:10:54
lot of the stuff, but
1:10:56
the leftists... They
1:10:58
invited this by overreaching on the
1:11:01
other side. He's getting rid of
1:11:03
all DEAI. Well, they went too
1:11:05
far the other way. They put
1:11:07
DEA everywhere. They left the border
1:11:09
open. Like you look at the
1:11:11
chart for like this president, like
1:11:14
Clinton and Obama and Bush. It
1:11:16
changed very little and then Biden.
1:11:18
Of course they're going to like
1:11:20
overreact to that. You know, they
1:11:22
invited it on themselves. So yeah,
1:11:24
I mean, in recent years it's
1:11:26
been great because I get that
1:11:29
crowd, but yeah, there were times
1:11:31
when I was in San Francisco,
1:11:33
I hate to pick on them,
1:11:35
but there are places that are
1:11:37
very woky, thinking, God, I wish
1:11:39
I was in Alabama, because that
1:11:41
crowd laughs, but they don't have,
1:11:44
they're not pretentious, you know, they're
1:11:46
basically liberal, but they don't, they're
1:11:48
not too politically correct. And comedy...
1:11:50
is not politically correct. Yeah, I
1:11:52
mean, unless it's not comedy. You
1:11:54
know what I mean? father was
1:11:57
a southern Democrat. I mean, she,
1:11:59
that was just what he was.
1:12:01
All Democrats used to be, I
1:12:03
mean, also those used to be
1:12:05
Democrat and. Kennedy changed that. And,
1:12:07
you know, I remember it was
1:12:09
just, you know, that was a
1:12:12
thing and then growing up in
1:12:14
a Republican household, I mean, it
1:12:16
was, but man, you know, it
1:12:18
just, I don't know, in the
1:12:20
South, we just. I don't think
1:12:22
we really care that much. I
1:12:25
mean, we just want to damn
1:12:27
wake up. Right. We just want
1:12:29
to wake up and... First of
1:12:31
all, people have to understand politics
1:12:33
mostly comes out of like your
1:12:35
personality and where you were born
1:12:37
and raised. You know, it's just,
1:12:40
it's just deeper than just, we're
1:12:42
the good people and anyone of
1:12:44
things differently isn't. It's just not
1:12:46
that simple. It's just so annoying
1:12:48
that attitude and I live amongst
1:12:50
it because this is the epicenter
1:12:53
of it in Hollywood that terrible
1:12:55
attitude. But yeah most people just
1:12:57
first of all they don't want
1:12:59
to think about it at all.
1:13:01
When Biden got elected that was
1:13:03
really his big pledge was if
1:13:05
you elect me you don't have
1:13:08
to start you don't have to
1:13:10
keep thinking about Donald Trump and
1:13:12
all this stuff. Of course that
1:13:14
was a pipe dream because Trump
1:13:16
never went away and then he
1:13:18
won the election again. So we
1:13:21
never stopped thinking about it but
1:13:23
most people. They would like to
1:13:25
stop thinking about politics, because it
1:13:27
doesn't really, in their view, affect
1:13:29
their lives. Government can help their
1:13:31
lives. They usually don't recognize when
1:13:33
it does. They very well note
1:13:36
when it doesn't. But basically, would
1:13:38
they even know who was president
1:13:40
a lot of the times? Many
1:13:42
times, in many households, not. And
1:13:44
they want to just get back
1:13:46
to that, you know? And I
1:13:48
can't blame them. I can't blame
1:13:51
them. It's too on people's minds.
1:13:53
They put it in their social
1:13:55
media, they put it in what
1:13:57
they write on Facebook, and so
1:13:59
we're always like cockfighting each other.
1:14:01
Yeah, about. Like making the... And
1:14:04
we... You know, like, we don't
1:14:06
have to. We can just talk
1:14:08
about murdering animals. Which I'm not
1:14:10
against if you eat them. Well,
1:14:12
and like I said, about what
1:14:14
we're saying, man, it's hard to
1:14:16
get everybody together on the same
1:14:19
stuff in this country and then,
1:14:21
and it just takes time and
1:14:23
it takes work and... So what's
1:14:25
it like playing LA? Man, where
1:14:27
do you play here? Well, I
1:14:29
played... Hollywood Bowl. Oh, that's a
1:14:32
big array several times. Um, that's
1:14:34
great. I played, uh, I played
1:14:36
the Dodgers Stadium. Well, that's big,
1:14:38
which was Dodger Stadium. I mean,
1:14:40
that goes back to what I
1:14:42
tell you with, um, you know,
1:14:44
New Jersey. And I mean, thinking
1:14:47
New Jersey and then coming out
1:14:49
here and playing Dodger Stadium. I
1:14:51
was like, it was just so,
1:14:53
just so trippy. I got into
1:14:55
cycling and I cycled up a
1:14:57
big hill that morning and stood
1:15:00
out over the stadium looking down
1:15:02
and shoot, I was like, damn,
1:15:04
that's Dodger Stadium and I'm playing
1:15:06
it. Any time you're playing a
1:15:08
place whose last name is stadium,
1:15:10
you did well. Man, it all
1:15:12
came out in the wash for
1:15:15
you. Like, because I always feel
1:15:17
like music is, you know, the
1:15:19
music is sitting on your shoulder.
1:15:21
And sometimes he sits there for
1:15:23
one hit. You've heard that term,
1:15:25
one hit one. Yeah. And sometimes
1:15:27
like you and, you know, not
1:15:30
just you, but, you know, he's
1:15:32
there for a while. But you
1:15:34
just have to worry. Like, is
1:15:36
the next one going to come?
1:15:38
Because it's not. Something you can
1:15:40
control completely. No, I mean you
1:15:43
just Do your best to try
1:15:45
to write a right a great
1:15:47
song and well you actually try
1:15:49
you don't wait for it to
1:15:51
come Well, I do that also.
1:15:53
I take songs. I love the
1:15:55
songwriting community in Nashville and the
1:15:58
fact that, you know, they can
1:16:00
send songs to me. And so
1:16:02
I love, I love trying to
1:16:04
record, you know, a little bit
1:16:06
in Nashville's what their songwriting community
1:16:08
has. But so yeah, it's, you
1:16:11
know, you wake up every day
1:16:13
trying to make great music. And
1:16:15
sometimes you... Just because it's a
1:16:17
fickle industry. Well, it's tough. And
1:16:19
you can't, right. And you know,
1:16:21
with kids on idle, man, they're
1:16:23
up there singing in front of
1:16:26
us and we try to get
1:16:28
them to this level and that
1:16:30
level, but man, they got to
1:16:32
go to work after that. Where
1:16:34
it just doesn't work. Yeah. I
1:16:36
mean, look at what you worked
1:16:39
as a comedian and then look
1:16:41
at, you do, you do a
1:16:43
funny, one funny joke. You did
1:16:45
a million bad ones. I did.
1:16:47
I had my version of playing
1:16:49
those rock and roll bars that
1:16:51
you played. Right. I played a
1:16:54
million small clubs. I played bars,
1:16:56
which is not even a place
1:16:58
a comedian should be. I played
1:17:00
with no stage standing on a
1:17:02
floor with sawdust on it. You
1:17:04
know, I mean, oh yeah. But
1:17:07
you know, you had it, I
1:17:09
had it, it's the best thing
1:17:11
in the world that could ever.
1:17:13
So good. And I had fun
1:17:15
the whole way. I've never not
1:17:17
had fun. It was more fun
1:17:19
for you than me. It's less
1:17:22
fun for a comedian in that
1:17:24
stage. Really? Yeah. I think music,
1:17:26
even if you're in a little
1:17:28
shitty place, first of all girls
1:17:30
still come for you. It's a
1:17:32
comedian, you're just a loser. And
1:17:34
very often they're, you know, they're
1:17:37
just not listening or, you know.
1:17:39
In that stage? Yes. You're just,
1:17:41
it's a sacrificial lamb kind of
1:17:43
a thing. God, you spent how
1:17:45
many years having to... Not, I
1:17:47
mean, not that many in that...
1:17:50
Really learn it just that's the
1:17:52
only way you can offens you
1:17:54
So the only way you can
1:17:56
learn to... I mean, man, I
1:17:58
had... I mean, you had bad
1:18:00
shows. Oh, yeah. And no one
1:18:02
was video on them. Jesus, could
1:18:05
you imagine if they'd have video
1:18:07
on them? Those bad ones? Yeah,
1:18:09
well, it's one reason I got
1:18:11
off the road, just now, because,
1:18:13
I mean, among other reasons, like,
1:18:15
I don't trust the crowd anymore.
1:18:18
Everyone is just out there to
1:18:20
get a scalp. You know, they
1:18:22
tell them to turn the phones
1:18:24
off. Now you could collect the
1:18:26
phones, some people do that, but
1:18:28
I really don't want to do
1:18:30
that to the audience. Most of
1:18:33
them, I feel like it would
1:18:35
be an insult. I feel like
1:18:37
my audience are my friends. They
1:18:39
could be my friends. They think
1:18:41
like me. It's just not something
1:18:43
you would get from just a
1:18:46
random sampling of the people out
1:18:48
there. So I don't want to
1:18:50
insult them like that, but... you
1:18:52
know every once in a while
1:18:54
or somebody who's directly hostile to
1:18:56
you can film your show take
1:18:58
things out of context and also
1:19:01
you're pushing boundaries you you know
1:19:03
he crossed the line yeah that's
1:19:05
my job to cross the line
1:19:07
and how do I know where
1:19:09
the line is sometimes until I
1:19:11
cross it you should thank me
1:19:14
for crossing the line and every
1:19:16
comedian who does it right but
1:19:18
you have to cross the line
1:19:20
you do look at Johnny Cash
1:19:22
I he was That's what he
1:19:24
had to do. I crossed, no,
1:19:26
I walked the line. I walked
1:19:29
the line, but man, God, you
1:19:31
look at Mark. Have you ever
1:19:33
seen Walk Hard? You know, I've,
1:19:35
I know. It is the funny.
1:19:37
If you haven't seen it or
1:19:39
saw it once, watch it. Was
1:19:41
it John C. Riley? Yes. You
1:19:44
know, that's probably his only movie
1:19:46
I haven't watched from top to
1:19:48
bottom. Oh, you have to. It's
1:19:50
about in your industry. It's about
1:19:52
the music, it's hysterical. I've seen
1:19:54
clips of it. It's Judd Apatow,
1:19:57
it's fantastic. Oh, you gotta watch
1:19:59
it, it's a scream. You know,
1:20:01
he's Johnny Cash at the beginning.
1:20:03
Right. And then, but then they.
1:20:05
take it into the 60s so
1:20:07
he meets the Beatles he goes
1:20:09
through his Dylan phase his Bob
1:20:12
Dylan phase which is very apropos
1:20:14
now with have you seen the
1:20:16
Dylan movie I hadn't seen it
1:20:18
yeah I want to see it
1:20:20
me too I love the the
1:20:22
previews really look good it's out
1:20:25
now that right yeah you are
1:20:27
a Dylan fan you know in
1:20:29
my household we didn't um you
1:20:31
know I just heard Dylan kind
1:20:33
of on the peripheral I didn't
1:20:35
really I just never really got
1:20:37
a chance to listen to him
1:20:40
and through the years, I wouldn't
1:20:42
say I was a, you know,
1:20:44
I wouldn't say that I was
1:20:46
a big dealing fan, but God
1:20:48
when you look at, you know,
1:20:50
when, like the band, didn't he
1:20:53
write, take a load off any,
1:20:55
I think he wrote that. Well,
1:20:57
that is a band song, that's
1:20:59
called The Weight, yeah. I mean...
1:21:01
Did Dylan write that? He wrote
1:21:03
so many songs sometimes where you'd
1:21:05
think, oh wow, Dylan wrote that
1:21:08
because it wasn't a hit for
1:21:10
him. You know, I mean, sometimes
1:21:12
he was well served I think
1:21:14
by somebody else singing his song
1:21:16
because like, you know, he had
1:21:18
a, I don't, you know, they
1:21:20
make fun of his singing voice.
1:21:23
It was certainly unique. It's obviously
1:21:25
like beyond charismatic because he's Bob
1:21:27
Dylan, so if he didn't hit
1:21:29
every note perfectly. But he's actually...
1:21:31
You know, he does hit, it's
1:21:33
not like he sings clams. He
1:21:36
sings in his own very distinctive
1:21:38
way. Yeah, but I never, I
1:21:40
like his voice, I thought. Yeah,
1:21:42
it's, yeah. Thought being. It's certainly
1:21:44
not Robert Gulay. Not everybody can
1:21:46
be, not everybody can be. Not
1:21:48
everybody should be. Well, when you
1:21:51
look at, you know, Paul Simon
1:21:53
through the years, I mean, love
1:21:55
him. Gosh. Oh. So that's somebody
1:21:57
who like well I'm a crazy
1:21:59
Paul Simon fan but I am
1:22:01
I'm a crazy Paul Simon But
1:22:04
I know enough that now what
1:22:06
a what a career you built.
1:22:08
What in... Both lyrically and music.
1:22:10
Like very few people write lyrics
1:22:12
I think that stand up
1:22:14
as poetry without
1:22:17
the music. He is
1:22:19
one of them. Totally. I
1:22:21
mean when you think about
1:22:23
Paul Simon and... I mean...
1:22:25
What? Well, I was going about
1:22:28
James now. Well, I was going
1:22:30
back to Dylan and Simon and
1:22:32
then you know those guys that
1:22:34
James Taylor who James Taylor his
1:22:37
These guys are not like They're
1:22:39
just not like a Robert plant.
1:22:41
They're not like a Robert
1:22:43
plant type singer. No, Robert
1:22:46
plant was you know, no one.
1:22:48
I mean, he was just the
1:22:50
greatest well then you look You know,
1:22:52
but Paul Simon and singers like that
1:22:54
could make it and then Robert
1:22:56
Plant could do that. It's just
1:22:58
funny how everybody can find their
1:23:00
little niche as long as you've got
1:23:03
something that's your niche and you've
1:23:05
set yourself. I mean I've heard
1:23:07
a lot of collapse. I've never
1:23:09
heard like heavy metal in country.
1:23:11
That seems one that's sort of
1:23:13
elusive. Like I can't imagine like Robert
1:23:15
Plant, you know, doing something with
1:23:18
you. Well he and Allison Kraus
1:23:20
did some stuff together. Well,
1:23:22
that's jazz. Well, she's
1:23:24
jazz. She's bluegrass. She
1:23:26
is? In her core.
1:23:29
Well, maybe, but Robert
1:23:31
Plant, in later years,
1:23:33
was less Ledzepliny. Oh,
1:23:35
when they were like,
1:23:37
don't, no, no, no,
1:23:39
no, no, you know, that
1:23:41
they hit an e-court and
1:23:44
the world was shaken.
1:23:46
You know, I mean, the
1:23:48
country rap thing works.
1:23:50
Hell yeah it does. But I'm
1:23:52
not sure about country heavy metal.
1:23:55
It might. I'm trying to think.
1:23:57
I mean Jay-Z did did wrap
1:23:59
with... He did 99 problems with,
1:24:01
I think, was it rage against
1:24:04
the machine? Somebody like that, that
1:24:06
was kind of heavy metal, but
1:24:08
I could see why rapid heavy
1:24:10
metal can go together. Country, I
1:24:13
don't know. You know, I'm gonna
1:24:15
go through my mind, but I
1:24:17
bet, gosh, there's been some. There's
1:24:20
been some CMT crossover stuff. There's
1:24:23
so much more collabbing than when
1:24:25
I was a kid. When I
1:24:27
was a kid, you know, Tommy
1:24:29
James and the Shondelles, like... They
1:24:32
all tried to kill each other.
1:24:34
What? Well, I mean, back in
1:24:36
those days of music, man, those
1:24:39
artists didn't like... I mean, they
1:24:41
were out working to... be better
1:24:43
than the other. I mean it
1:24:46
was, it was cutthroat, it was,
1:24:48
it was, yeah, I mean it
1:24:50
was, I don't know, my cutthroat,
1:24:53
but it was competitive. And there
1:24:55
was no like, you know, hey,
1:24:57
the fifth dimension, why don't you
1:25:00
come on my record? Like, fuck
1:25:02
off, I'm doing my own record,
1:25:04
we can get on your record.
1:25:07
But now, like, nobody puts out
1:25:09
of record old. Man, there's a
1:25:11
lot of clabs out there, but
1:25:13
people love it. People just love
1:25:16
it. You do it. You do
1:25:18
it. You do it. You do
1:25:20
it. Yeah, I mean, I mean,
1:25:23
I mean, I mean, I mean,
1:25:25
I mean, I mean. What about
1:25:27
Dolly Parton? I hadn't done anything
1:25:30
with Dolly. Why? It's an insult
1:25:32
to you. Well, I wouldn't say
1:25:34
that. Oh, I would. Why when
1:25:37
you collide with Dolly Parton? She's...
1:25:39
It just hadn't happened. I mean,
1:25:41
I've met... I've seen Dolly in
1:25:44
concert. Man, she's... You know, I
1:25:46
just said, it hadn't happened yet,
1:25:48
but it might happen after... You
1:25:51
know, Bill, you're so adamant about
1:25:53
it. Luke has to do a
1:25:55
fucking collab with the only part.
1:25:57
Well, who was your favorite collab
1:26:00
that you ever worked with when
1:26:02
you did a collab? Gosh. I
1:26:04
don't know, you know, early on
1:26:07
I did a collab with... FGL,
1:26:09
Florida, Georgia line, and it was
1:26:11
a fun call, this is how
1:26:14
we roll. It was really fun.
1:26:16
I've got a... Can I suggest
1:26:18
a few people? What's that? May
1:26:21
I suggest a few people? Who's
1:26:23
that? Steely Dan? Whoa! Oh, you're
1:26:25
reeling in the years. Is it?
1:26:28
Yeah, reeling in the years. So
1:26:30
good. Great. Right. Okay. Okay. Well,
1:26:32
the guitar solo in there? I
1:26:35
mean, it's a, that was a
1:26:37
two-man group, one of them's gone,
1:26:39
so, you know, step like I
1:26:42
can get in there with him.
1:26:44
Steve Miller Band, come on. But
1:26:46
you know, classic. Oh, what's their
1:26:48
song? The Joker? Yes. Come on.
1:26:51
There's a little country in that
1:26:53
song. I mean, totally. You really
1:26:55
draw your inspiration from a really
1:26:58
wide range. And yeah never asked
1:27:00
you didn't even mean to it
1:27:02
was just whatever my sisters and
1:27:05
her friends and man whatever they
1:27:07
listen to But I mean you
1:27:09
seem to be the product of
1:27:12
all that That went that the
1:27:14
whole range of the of the
1:27:16
American songbook hell I remember you
1:27:19
know Prince Yeah when Prince had
1:27:21
that damn album where he had
1:27:23
the jeans cut out of his
1:27:26
his ass cheeks I was like,
1:27:28
I don't remember that one. I
1:27:30
think that was a picture. I
1:27:32
don't remember it might. Maybe you
1:27:35
imagined that or somebody said to
1:27:37
it. Reference it right now, but
1:27:39
I was like, is this crazy?
1:27:42
I used to have a poster.
1:27:44
Prince will stamp crazy. Yes, what
1:27:46
an animal. Prince, I mean, very
1:27:49
few people have whettened pussies like
1:27:51
Prince. At five foot two, bitch.
1:27:53
five foot two and very i
1:27:56
mean gangster i know it's very
1:27:58
gangster i mean five foot two
1:28:00
trust me i knew I knew
1:28:03
women who talked about him, I
1:28:05
knew women who talked about him,
1:28:07
and that five foot two, you
1:28:10
know, for all the women who
1:28:12
were on, you know, whatever the
1:28:14
dating site is, where they're like,
1:28:17
well, you know, tender, I wouldn't
1:28:19
go out with a guy who
1:28:21
wasn't six foot tall. Yeah, you
1:28:23
would. I know one you would.
1:28:26
He was the pussy whisper. He
1:28:28
really was. And then he got
1:28:30
into... It was a big fan
1:28:33
of my first show, Politically Incorrect,
1:28:35
The Sign is behind you. And
1:28:37
he used to talk about it,
1:28:40
like publicly. It was a show
1:28:42
with four guests, and he would,
1:28:44
I was told, he would, this
1:28:47
is after he became a very
1:28:49
serious Jehovah Witness, I think it
1:28:51
was, but something, he was very,
1:28:54
very religious. and he would bring
1:28:56
like four strippers back from the
1:28:58
club and they thought there was
1:29:01
going to be an orgy and
1:29:03
he'd just do an episode of
1:29:05
politically incorrect with them and they'd
1:29:07
talk about Jesus. Yeah, yeah, so
1:29:10
a little tidbit for you. I
1:29:12
don't know if that's true but
1:29:14
that's somebody who knew him told
1:29:17
but I know he really yeah
1:29:19
he became well he definitely became
1:29:21
super religious. I didn't know that.
1:29:24
Right. And the God was fentanyl,
1:29:26
unfortunately. No. That's, that's, that's, too
1:29:28
soon. No, he was very, you
1:29:31
know, he became, you know, had
1:29:33
some very interesting theories about history.
1:29:35
Yeah, but all too soon. Yeah,
1:29:38
I mean, I mean, Whitney, geez.
1:29:40
But so many, I mean, how
1:29:42
many rock stars? Whitney Houston. And
1:29:45
I always want to just get
1:29:47
one of them to say, to
1:29:49
ask, rock star, you're given so
1:29:51
much, just by being a rock
1:29:54
star, you know this, you have
1:29:56
so much. Why then need like
1:29:58
this level of drugs that's going
1:30:01
to kill you? that. It's just
1:30:03
and it happens so many times.
1:30:05
Like I just want to say
1:30:08
to them you don't have to
1:30:10
be doing that well to do
1:30:12
the amount of drugs you're doing
1:30:15
that's enough to kill you like
1:30:17
you could probably do it on
1:30:19
like maybe four hundred grand a
1:30:22
year. You could probably buy enough
1:30:24
coke and liquor and fentanyl or
1:30:26
whatever with that salary to kill
1:30:29
yourself. You're making way more than
1:30:31
that and you're still, you know,
1:30:33
I don't know what they're, what
1:30:36
is this sorrow that they're dampening
1:30:38
down sorrow? And I'm sure there
1:30:40
is. I mean, I don't doubt
1:30:42
that people have their own pain
1:30:45
no matter how much it looks
1:30:47
from the outside, like everything's great.
1:30:49
But you just have to explain
1:30:52
to me, okay, everything actually is
1:30:54
great. Yeah, I mean, you have
1:30:56
so much. What the problem, what
1:30:59
is the problem? Why are we
1:31:01
doing the drugs? Why do we
1:31:03
need to forget? Forget. I want
1:31:06
to remember this life, and I
1:31:08
even have had it. Man, I
1:31:10
want to remember it. Yeah. I
1:31:13
mean... Well, you seem like you
1:31:15
have your head on very straight.
1:31:17
I hope so. You know? Yeah.
1:31:20
It's a... Who's your, like, kitchen
1:31:22
cabinet friends who you could just,
1:31:24
like, lay it all out with?
1:31:26
Oh, man. I got a great
1:31:29
friend group I've got... You must
1:31:31
have, some of them must be
1:31:33
your peers, because like the only
1:31:36
people who really understand you on
1:31:38
a certain level are not your
1:31:40
high school friends. Yeah. They're the
1:31:43
people who also play stadiums. Yeah,
1:31:45
well, my thing, my high school,
1:31:47
I got some high school friends
1:31:50
that are like, they're just so
1:31:52
tight and one of them, he
1:31:54
and I are in some businesses
1:31:57
together that were doing really well
1:31:59
and just so... thankful of that
1:32:01
and then I've got man I
1:32:04
got high school friends and a
1:32:06
little group of college friends that
1:32:08
you know we try to get
1:32:11
together were your peers my peers
1:32:13
that you know can I would
1:32:15
say my peers in country are
1:32:17
probably very early on. Dirk Bentley
1:32:20
was a very dear, you know,
1:32:22
a peer of mine. But he's
1:32:24
not as big as you. Well,
1:32:27
you have to like have people
1:32:29
who understand what your life is.
1:32:31
Nobody like that? Well yeah, I've
1:32:34
got Shelton or somebody like that.
1:32:36
Somebody who understands what your life.
1:32:38
Oh man, me and Blake, we
1:32:41
have a good time. I told
1:32:43
you. I know it. You would
1:32:45
play. We have a good time
1:32:48
together. What do you do? Me
1:32:50
and Dirk's fear and murder animals.
1:32:52
Let me guess. Let me guess.
1:32:55
I love that we're different. Me
1:32:57
too. You know, I mean, and
1:32:59
fuck it, we're not even that
1:33:01
different. Man, I tell you. We're
1:33:04
not that different. We do slightly
1:33:06
different versions of the same. Well,
1:33:08
we're, you know, I think. Like,
1:33:11
we're all Americans and we're all...
1:33:13
Well, the main difference is if
1:33:15
it's more generational. We're living still
1:33:18
in the real world. Younger generation
1:33:20
is living in the virtual world.
1:33:22
That's going to be the main
1:33:25
difference. Yeah. Whether your girlfriend is
1:33:27
an AI fucking app on your
1:33:29
phone, or where they're actually... You
1:33:32
know the other way. The old...
1:33:34
Call it... Call it women classic.
1:33:36
Well... Anyway... God, you know, but
1:33:39
it's a lot to handle and
1:33:41
control and the beauty of it
1:33:43
is You get to fight your
1:33:45
fight and not your fight You
1:33:48
get to tell you through comedy
1:33:50
and you get to tell yourself
1:33:52
through through satirical We I mean
1:33:55
you you go after it and
1:33:57
you take your We're both so
1:33:59
lucky, right? Hell, hell you all.
1:34:02
I mean, we could have been,
1:34:04
you know, not that their other jobs
1:34:06
are bad or horrible or boring,
1:34:09
but a lot of jobs are
1:34:11
bad, horrible and boring. And
1:34:13
we don't have, we don't even
1:34:15
have jobs. We have careers.
1:34:17
Some people have careers, and
1:34:19
some people have jobs. I've had
1:34:21
plenty of jobs when I was
1:34:24
young, and I didn't like them,
1:34:26
because they were fucking jobs. If
1:34:28
you have a career as opposed to
1:34:31
a job, you are lucky. Very.
1:34:33
And that's what we got.
1:34:35
Well, there's a lot of hardworking
1:34:38
people out there that... Yeah, and
1:34:40
we work. What do they want?
1:34:42
I just want to do. And
1:34:44
we work hard too. Don't take
1:34:46
that away from me. Just
1:34:48
because I enjoy it. And I
1:34:51
still work hard at it, and I
1:34:53
bet you do too, too. How often
1:34:55
are you like in the studio?
1:34:58
You know, um, that a lot. We're
1:35:00
in the studio quite
1:35:02
a lot. You know, we have,
1:35:04
um... We have a thing at
1:35:06
your house, were you? Thing at
1:35:08
the house, guys drive out, piano,
1:35:11
guitar, amps, and man, we,
1:35:13
you know, we write out there,
1:35:15
and it's fun, you know, we...
1:35:18
Right? So you have a in-home
1:35:20
studio. I've got a room
1:35:22
in my house that I've got,
1:35:24
you know, my pianos and stuff
1:35:27
like that. Are they sitting on
1:35:29
actual bales of hay? Or do
1:35:32
you know, the donkeys come up?
1:35:34
You have furniture. The donkeys come
1:35:36
up, you know, the dam.
1:35:38
You know, we serve our freshly
1:35:41
slaughtered eggs and chicken. And I
1:35:43
understand the Uber driver is a
1:35:45
tractor. All right, I'm going to release
1:35:48
you back into the wild to murder
1:35:50
more animals. Oh, listen. I'm going to
1:35:52
go back to work on my show.
1:35:55
Thank you. Such a pleasure. I hope
1:35:57
it's not the last time. I'm
1:36:03
a a, I'm a you know, I... Oh,
1:36:05
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