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Hey, it's Dave Cauley. Dropping in just to
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let you know about a new podcast by
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the KSL Podcasts team. It's called
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Unsolved Histories. Season
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1 is about a plane crash over the Gulf of
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Alaska during the Cold War. An airliner
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carrying more than a hundred people took to
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the skies near Seattle, moving military personnel and
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their families to their new assignments in Anchorage.
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They were at about 14,000 feet, when
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one of the pilots radioed air traffic control to
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ask for an altitude change. And that
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was the last thing anyone ever heard from Flight
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293. Here's
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a short clip from Episode 1. I
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happened to kind of just be sitting
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there alone and everybody was else getting
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ready for dinner or else doing other
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things. And so I sat in this
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large room in front of
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the television and it was
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about 5 o'clock, 4.35 o'clock,
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and they had a special bulletin interruption.
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News alert. This is
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Dick Singer speaking for the entire TV7 News Stad.
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Greg Berylman is in his sixties. He was
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just eight years old one afternoon back in
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1963 when
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he found himself sitting in front of the television
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by himself. Cartoons were over
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and the evening news was on
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from Seattle station KIRO or Cairo.
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Well what they did at the time,
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they posted the passengers, their names and
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where they were from right
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there. I was like,
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oh, that's interesting. Interesting, you know,
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plane crash, Alaska. And
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I'm telling you, this is God's truth.
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I read the passenger list and I
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missed the first part of it in
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alphabetical order. So I
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sat there and you know, I couldn't
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believe it, but I saw my brother
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Bruce's name. Bruce
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Berylman, Greg's older brother, was only 17. That
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morning, Bruce had boarded a D. BC 7C
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airliner near Seattle, Northwest Airlines flight
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293 to
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Anchorage, Alaska. And
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now a few hours later, Greg
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had to tell his parents what he had just seen
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on TV. And my
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parents were arguing, they had all sorts
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of issues but at that time I
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went into the kitchen. I said, hey,
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you know, you gotta
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look at the TV, something's going on here. Then
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they coo-cooed it for a little bit. I
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said, yeah, come on, this is for real.
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It was for real. Bruce's plane
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was missing. So that
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was the start. And what I think they
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did is once they saw the same thing
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I did, immediately they called Cairo or
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whomever somebody to reach out to. Cause who are
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you gonna call something like that happens but the
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media. So then I
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remember we all huddled around and waited
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and kept on watching it repeat updates
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and all that till we got a
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call back. I think about
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seven o'clock, six, seven o'clock, a
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couple hours later, anyhow. And
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they said, it's for real. Reports
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were sketchy that night as Greg and
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his parents and his three other siblings
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waited for details about what had happened.
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And obviously my parents were so concerned about, obviously
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there's gotta be survivors planes and stuff
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just crash and people won't die necessarily.
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If it was a big plane like
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that, it could float and all the
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old things. And it
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was dynamic. Details
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never came. The Barrowman
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family and the families of everyone else onboard
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the plane would never learn
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anything substantive about the tragedy that
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took the life of Bruce Barrowman
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and 100 others, sons, fathers, brothers,
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daughters, mothers
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and sisters. For six
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decades, Greg Barrowman has been. searching for answers
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about what happened to his brother and
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about what happened to flight 293. At
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times it's been a struggle to cope and to
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make sense of things in the wake of a
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tragedy that became an enduring mystery. 60 years
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on the Barymans aren't the only ones
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still suffering. The family members
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and friends who were left behind have never learned
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what really happened to the plane or
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about what led to the death of their loved ones. As
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Greg Baryman grew up, missing his big
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brother became a search for answers and
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a quest for closure. What
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began as a personal mission became so much
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more. I'd say we're trying to visit the
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past in order to gain
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perspective on our lives currently
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and then for myself being in
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the fourth quarter of life now to
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know that the people that I
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that we may affect in
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this broadcast or our communication
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would give people hope for the future
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and some resolve. With
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help from Greg and from others who lost
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loved ones on flight 293 and
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by consulting with aviation experts to review
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the old documents and with amateur sleuths
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to comb through the archives, we
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reexamine the investigation and joined in the
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search for answers and
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in the quest for closure. From
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KSL podcasts I'm Felix Benil. This
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is Unsolved Histories. What happened to
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flight 293? Episode 1 Brothers. I
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was intrigued by that first story because I had never heard of
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flight 293 and I thought I knew my Pacific
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Northwest aviation history pretty well.
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I work for radio station KIRO
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in Seattle where I produce history
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stories about things like old army
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forts, forgotten shipwrecks, abandoned driving
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theaters, and lost in federal treasures.
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But I also do a lot
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of stories about transportation disasters. Bridges
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collapsing, trolleys jumping the tracks, and
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again and again airplane crashes. My
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interest in plane crashes is not a ghoulish thing,
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it's the exact opposite. It's about
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life and survival and how traumatic experiences
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shape our feelings about what we value
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most in the short time we have on
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earth. I visited
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crash sites and I tracked down and
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spoken with amazing resilient people who survived
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or witnessed some of the worst air
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crashes in the Pacific Northwest of the
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past 75 years. Like
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the man who survived the crash
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of a jetliner north of Seattle
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in 1959. I don't know if
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you've ever known you're gonna
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die but somehow you
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get a euphoric feeling.
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You know, don't worry about it, you're gonna
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die you know that but you accept
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it and if you're well,
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hurry up, let's get it over with. I've
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also done stories about lost planes where
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family members of those aboard never gave
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up searching for answers. Like
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two young Navy pilots who took off
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from Seattle back in 1949
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on a training flight and disappeared. The
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mother of one of them came to Seattle
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from Tennessee to help with the search. Nothing
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turned up but she came back
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every year for 20 years to
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continue searching. She would talk
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about it and she'd share all the details
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with us, me and my brother as grandchildren and
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it was always on her mind. She
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just never could get emotionally detached
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from it. All this
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to say that something about plane crashes and
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the people affected by them have
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always been compelling. So
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that's why after I first read about
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flight 293 I decided I needed
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to know more. I checked online
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and there were some old articles and a few
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bits of information on Wikipedia. The
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most revealing and most frustrating thing
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I found was something called the
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aircraft accident. report, an
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official document issued by a federal
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government agency called the Civil Aeronautics
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Board, or CAB. The
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CAB is, essentially, a precursor to
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the National Transportation Safety Board. Like
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the NTSB does today, the CAB
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investigated aviation accidents and issued reports
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on the causes of plane crashes.
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The CAB report on what happened to Flight 293 is a scant
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10 pages. It leaves
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a lot of questions unanswered. That's
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one of the reasons why we're doing this podcast. The
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DC-7C took off from McCord Air Force Base
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around 830 in the morning local time.
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Before takeoff and for the first few
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hours of the journey north, everything was
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ordinary. About two
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and a half hours into the flight, the CAB report
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says, the pilot or co-pilot
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of Flight 293 radioed that they were 14,000 feet
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over a point called Domestic
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Annette, or
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the part of their route nearest to Annette
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Island in southeast Alaska. Annette
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Island is just north of the border between Canada
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and Alaska. This is a
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little confusing, but that point called Domestic
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Annette is actually about 130 miles west
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of the island out over the Gulf of
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Alaska. It's like an imaginary
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road sign in the air highways or
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routes that most aircraft travel between destinations.
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Pilots and co-pilots don't give position reports
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like this anymore. Radar now tracks all
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commercial aircraft at all times. In
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1963, between the lower 48 and
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Alaska, this wasn't the case. So,
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someone in the cockpit would use the radio
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to tell a radio operator on the ground
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that the plane was passing a certain spot.
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If a plane didn't make a report when it was expected
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to, the radio operators on the ground
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would know that something had gone wrong. As
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Flight 293 passed Domestic Annette, the pilot
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or co-pilot of Flight 293. Flight 293
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also requested permission to climb to 18,000
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feet. That
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request to change altitude was denied.
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The crew hadn't given any reason for wanting to climb from
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14,000 to 18,000 feet, though changing
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altitude would be a routine step for
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an airliner to take to avoid something
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like turbulence or icing conditions. We'll
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hear more about this in a later episode. The
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CAB report explains that a Canadian
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radio operator at Sandspit, British Columbia,
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that's an island just south of
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the Canadian border with Alaska, acknowledged
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this transmission and advised Flight 293
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that this altitude was occupied by
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Pacific Northern Airlines Flight 5. In
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a routine situation involving communications like this
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between air traffic personnel on the ground
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and a cockpit crew in the air,
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someone from Flight 293 should have acknowledged
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the message from Sandspit right away. Instead,
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there was only silence.
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The CAB report continues, saying that two
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minutes later, the Sandspit operator attempted to
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contact Flight 293 and give it a
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clearance to 16,000 feet. And
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then, more silence. There
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was no answer from the plane. Next,
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the radio operator at Sandspit asked the crew
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of Pacific Northern Airways Flight 5 –
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remember, that was the aircraft already occupying the
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nearby airspace at 18,000 feet –
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to attempt to contact Flight 293. It's
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unclear how much time elapsed between the
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Sandspit radio operator asking the Pacific Northern
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Airways crew for help, but it's likely
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they complied almost immediately. But,
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when that crew tried to reach Flight 293 once again, there
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was no answer. Several
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minutes had
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gone. gone
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by and no one on the ground or
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in the air could reach the cockpit crew
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of Flight 293. There
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was no answer from the Northwest Airlines
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DC-7C that was supposed to be 14,000
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feet over the Gulf
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of Alaska and which was supposed to
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land at Elmendorf Air Force Base in two hours with
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101 passengers and crew. As
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the CAB report succinctly and bluntly puts
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it, all further attempts
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to contact Flight 293 were futile.
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